The Good, The Bad, and The Broken! Living with a Ram Rebel For Over a Year

[@aldoavak9]

BEST VIDEO YET!!! The head to head comparisons and evaluations are great but this long term update and unbiased documentation of your time with this truck is awesome. Great job Andre.

[@ted101975]

Agreed

[@rjlopezmr.p2216]

💯

[@MadDestructionChaos]

Absolutely!!!! Been following these guys for YEARS!!!! unbiased!!!!! is the best!!! They say here is the data and videos and our thoughts, you make decision!! LOOL! Great job guys!!

[@RealMrNails]

You guys lifted it, different suspension, different exhaust, different intake, 2-in bigger knobby tires and your disappointed with losing 2 MPG of fuel economy? Love your videos guys, I think you should be happy with the outcome after all of those changes.

[@MrNismopro]

8:13 it didn't have the lift and tires when they performed the fuel economy test. However, it's also hard to tell what the drive was like for them. If they were climbing a slight slope or not, as that would affect their overall results. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@toddfeltman3748]

Agree. Bigger, heavier tires and wheels, they loaded it up with extra equipment and increased the wind resistance with the bar and lights too. All can decrease fuel economy.

[@evildr.foucci]

Dealership: you have 600k subs on KZbin.... no prob we will fix anything under warranty Dealership when I go in: you put bfg tires instead of goodyear tires warranty woun't cover it sorry.....

[@theirthereandtheyre2947]

I’m surprised they fixed that drive shaft under the warranty. They would have weaseled out of doing it for most owners, people who don’t have KZbin channels.

[@kerrypence4201]

It also depends on the dealership you go to… I’ve had small issues with some of my Chrysler products and at one point had to go through three dealerships but the third one was wonderful and took care of the problem without any bitching at all. The other two dealerships were ridiculous, And come to find out the problem I was having with the transmission was actually caused by the first dealership and the third dealership went to bat for me when I filed a claim with Chrysler themselves!

[@Jman11129]

Nicholas Livoti for real! I had a terrible time with RAM when I had my 2018 big horn they tried to scam me so much when I had warranty claims. It’s literally the number one reason why I will never drive a RAM ever again. I traded my big horn for a Chevy trail boss and I’ve had zero issues with it and Chevy services.

[@mierdevries9643]

Well to me that drive shaft should never have snapped. It's just a straight shot from the TC to the Diff, neither of which move on an IFS. The CV should have gone first, so that shaft giving out is very suspect to me of bad design or manufacture.

[@toddmayta7615]

Yes...... offroad vehicle abuse is not usually covered. Especially with a lift and oversized tires. They could easily deny, and prove, that the damage was a result of the strain caused by suspension geometry and oversized tires the truck was not designed for .... lol....

[@9663mu]

Pretty sure the dealership knows these guys and don’t want a bad rap. But I agree with everyone , most dealers would say it’s cause it’s modified.

[@s_android]

These long-term reviews are great! Thank you!

[@noemdfan1]

You realize that increasing the tire size numerically lowered the overall effective gear ratio, possibly taking the engine out of "the sweet spot" for torque. Why don't you compare the mileage numbers from before and after the tire swap to see if there is any difference? Just a thought.

[@esaflaka9155]

Mpg will always lower with bigger tires.. and if they do a lift. Even more so.. thats a given

[@fuji302]

Love your reviews. You guys are the most honest reviewers I have ever watched/read. As a former Mechanic at a Jeep (and other brand manufacturers) dealer I can tell you with those tires Chrysler would have made you pay for the driveshaft and probably voided your warranty. The only reason they did warranty the driveshaft is that they wouldn’t want to damage their relationship with TFL because of your reputation in reviews.

[@awmustang]

12:53 you can see the rock get picked up by the front tire and wedged against the fender. That's what broke the drive shaft. The wheel could not turn at all but torque was still being sent to it. Something had to give. This really shouldn't have been a warranty claim, but good on you for getting that one past them.

[@blk03modular21]

I highly doubt your assumption. I feel that a stress fracture was the culprit.

[@awmustang]

It could have been the stress fracture was there and that's where it gave. But that rock definitely got jammed in there.

[@JD-ys7fj]

lol it totally was their fault. Also a weak driveshaft design.

[@jardog16981]

@@JD-ys7fj I wouldn't say a weak driveshaft design. Driveshafts and cv-axles are designed intentionally to be weaker than the differentials and transfer case to preserve them. Would you rather be replacing a driveshaft/CV or those other much more expensive parts???

[@maritimemisfits3360]

@@jardog16981 No, the Ujoints are the weakest link, and should ALWAYS fail before a driveshaft. A new ujoint is $20 and 30 minutes to install.

[@JohnSmith-ev1sm]

Another great video from Andre, I really appreciate his honesty and complete lack of bias.

[@LimitedEditionMotorcars]

Dodge would never replace that driveshaft for an average Joe under warranty.

[@Mark-wq1nh]

You could get it done with the right amount of bitching to the right place.

[@LimitedEditionMotorcars]

@@Mark-wq1nh True, but it would take a lot of bitching. It's a Dodge after all, not a Lexus.

[@TheNutzandBoltz]

That was my exact thought. Over sized tires, I'm sorry your warrantee in now void.

[@mikewilson436]

Replaced under warranty? Here's been my experience at Ram for warranty repairs. Dealer " Sir your transfer cases blown "...Me "OK I still have a lot of warranty left ". Dealer " Unfortunately that pine tree air freshener hanging from your re mirror Voids your warranty"

[@repz0611]

Yes they would

[@BulletSpoung]

You impressed me when you told us the RAM fixed something under warranty.

[@bradleyhankin]

I remember when Andre used to only speak Russian.

[@geegergwisley7977]

Brad Hankin Andre the Russian mechanic

[@RegularGuy76]

Brad Hankin I think he speaks a mild hybrid version of it :)

[@rkalla]

LOL!

[@UltraSS-nj8kd]

I would like to know the first video he stopped not being the "Russian mechanic" with that awesome hat & went to this.

[@RALegacy19]

I was just thinking that !! Lol

[@AdSando12]

Thanks for the year update See us again at 4 and 5 year mark after you hit 100k.

[@Insan3Driver]

So, the MPG test was done with a 2” lift kit, 35” tires and 1 mile oversea level. Just went down 2mpg, I don’t see were is the disappointment here.

[@Insan3Driver]

Johnny Bliss you’re right, it seems stock when the MPG test was done. But still good MPG considering elevation. I used to live in Denver and I had JK sahara by then, the elevation plus the cold weather made the consumption dropped ~2MPG.

[@DavidDowns6]

I have a 2020 rebel and just drove 500 miles highway in California and got 17.5 mpg too. Mostly flat down the 5

[@DavidDowns6]

I think the 392 gears make a big difference too

[@blakeumthun8128]

According to the sticker, the 392's don't hurt it. But........I have 392 gears in my Big Horn and it has never hit the EPA estimate, unless I drive 45mph with a tail wind.I'm pretty sure the numbers are reflective of lower elevation and really clean high octane gas.

[@cast_outlaw]

Mpg testing is done at sea level in laboratory conditions so there mileages were real world you almost never get advertised mileage in the real world even at sea level none of my vehicles do

[@leftcoastoverland8750]

Love My 2019 Rebel, been hauling a Palomino HS650 truck camper which weighs 1550 lbs for a year and a half, the truck keeps kickin butt!

[@redpilledpatriot8484]

Well it should keep kicking butt, damn thing is new.

[@martyfield694]

@@redpilledpatriot8484 My Rebel continues to kick butt as well

[@dchawk81]

3,600 miles & one year later my dually is still amazing too. 😂

[@joseywales898]

I have this truck also no problems at all... Best truck i've ever had. give me any truck i''ll break on the same rock hill, pedal to the medal .

[@jasdtaylor]

2017 rebel here; 4” lift, 18” wheels, 35” tires, intake, tuner, throttle body spacer, throttle controller. 29,5xx miles. No issues at all. I’ve been very happy with this truck. Thank you guys for all of the awesome videos you make for us.

[@johnappleseed9290]

Lucky you. I’ve owned a 2018 rebel and decided to go with a tundra instead. POS truck started to have some serious electrical issues, excessive oil consumption, and I never abused it by any means.

[@jasdtaylor]

@@johnappleseed9290 no longer have the truck. Something ground out under the dash and caught fire. Rocking a 2015 ram 2500 now.

[@NoIssac]

Hey man, you still have your Rebel? Looking to buy one with about 75k miles. Still happy with it?

[@NoIssac]

@@jasdtaylornever mind… didn’t see the update…🤦‍♂️

[@jasdtaylor]

@@NoIssac yeah it was a big bummer. I probably wouldn’t have it still though because we’ve moved to another state, have property, lots of projects and will eventually have animals so I now have a 2017 ram 2500 diesel for the towing. Might get a rebel 2500 diesel though depending on what ram releases later this month for a new vehicle.

[@unknowntrucker7010]

I'm happy with my 2019 rebel so far I don't do anything like these guys do.Im waiting for the TRX to come out think I'll upgrade looks like a beast

[@1gr8oil]

@Rich Allen It's been given the "go ahead"!

[@1gr8oil]

@Rich Allen I believe in 2021.

[@ytpremium7649]

Rented a Tacoma to go to Mexico and it was nice Rented a RAM 1500 with a Hemi and it was FABULOUS!

[@GATORADDAM]

21 thousand miles is not a long term review. My 2014 didn’t start falling apart until 42,000 miles. Along the way it had 6 recalls, it started ticking like a jackhammer, developed a vibration they never could figure out, broke exhaust manifold bolts, had issues with the cylinder deactivation solenoids, problems with the electronic steering because the idiots mount the control module underneath the thing where it gets wet, the back window and 3rd break light leaked, and a host of other more minor issues. I was soooooo happy when I rid myself of that thing at 62,000 miles! Never.... ever again!!

[@96thundercat]

Back in 2014.... wasn't that during ww2??

[@GATORADDAM]

@@96thundercat No. But it was ( is ) in the Fiat timeline!

[@alexanderbesliu-surkic135]

under warranty even with the bigger tires? woww, must be good to have a KZbin channel!

[@greenpickle9606]

Alexander Besliu-Surkic yup lol... the rest of us commoners would have been told to F off lol.

[@alexanderbesliu-surkic135]

@@greenpickle9606 big time! :)

[@Packinheat1175]

Alexander Besliu-Surkic thats why I put limited value in much of what they say on this channel. They get a lot stuff given to them.

[@MattSmith-vl8zp]

Or a great dealership

[@alexanderbesliu-surkic135]

@@MattSmith-vl8zp extraordinary dealership with some familiy members in charge!

[@tyrrellroach5872]

So something many people don’t realize any time you increase tire size on a truck you add to the strain put into the drive train. The broken cv shaft is most likely the result of the 35” tires and the extreme off roaming it was going through at the time. But with that said it probably should be built heavier but by what I understand about 1/2ton trucks today the front axle is a weak link on all of them. So much so they don’t recommend putting snow plows on them. And the plows that they make for them are light duty and light weight.

[@wildbill23c]

Most, wait I think all 1/2 tons are IFS now, those suspensions are trash when it comes to actually using a truck as a truck, and for what they were doing in the episode where they blew that CV joint in that drive shaft isn't anything close to heavy offroading...that CV joint is trash, they need to put some HD shafts in that thing if they want to pretend its an offroad truck...but then again the automakers figure most people today buying trucks like this turn them into mall crawlers LOL.

[@rigging1377]

I drove my 14 Ram coast to coast, never any issues with it. Bought a 19 and my driver seat and backup camera broke at 2k miles! Luckily the dealership was awesome, fixed it and got a Durango as a loaner during repairs.

[@LeeofChaldea]

I blame that overly harsh treatment they where putting it through

[@mikestronach4762]

Just the start.

[@mikedakota99]

Rzeppa drive shafts are weak points in a stock 4x4 drivetrain. The truck still held up well with all the abuse

[@paulj9821]

@Dustin Chappellok there.

[@rebelndirt8830]

The fuel economy numbers are for the truck's family as a whole. Case in point, I have a 2017 Rebel 5.7L 4wd, my best friend has a 2017 Tradesman 5.7L 4wd. The differences between our trucks aside from the option group is, he has the 6.5' bed I have the 5.5' bed, and his tires are highway tires while mine are off road tires. Aside from the tires and bed size our trucks are nearly identical and they are both about the same age. He gets in the high teens for economy on a regular basis, while I get in the mid teens regularly. His truck scales 100# more than mine, and our driving styles are very similar. Tires here are the factor at the end of the day. Prolly whats going on with your truck as well.

[@donleamon8653]

The comments about the driveshaft breaking here are amazing. You have wheel spin and then sudden traction while under close to full throttle in 4lo. Yeah, that's how shit breaks boys.

[@errhka]

I'm very lucky when I went out my first time my group made sure I learned that you shouldn't be gunning it like that to get over an obstacle. With my open difs it was hard but I'm glad I learned the proper driving methods now before my bad techniques screwed me over

[@MrRosentrotter]

Errhka makes all the difference 👍🏼

[@robc8468]

Yeah Roman gunned so it much he picked up a big rock and literally wedged it between the front tire and the fender well.

[@shartingfish5761]

Must be an American car thing??? Because my manual 4x4 tacoma in 4lo i beat the shit out of and never in 300k+ miles did anything break..

[@sha6mm]

Yes this is how stuffs break but what other full size truck have they broken the axel on ? On Cliffhanger 2.0

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

“Oh my, it sounds like...a very, very distraught cow.”

[@nobunaga-oda]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@christopherwilson9140]

Thats ok, toyotas crawl control sounds like 13 tiny elves are beating at all different parts of your truck with hammers.

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

Pretty sure that Toyota crawl control is made from broken washing machines

[@christopherwilson9140]

@@josephwhiskeybeale 😂😂😂

[@johnsadar1743]

Joseph Whiskey Beale still just a Dodge.

[@drewtijerina4359]

If they had not repaired the drive shaft under warranty would you still be happy you made the purchase?

[@TimTayl]

NO

[@DJ_Underwood]

Thanks for the update Andre! Taking a serious look at one of these in the next few months. Love the updates and keep them coming!

[@ernestochavez5106]

11:15 Awesome oil drain plug design by the geniuses at Chrysler

[@AddingLifeAdventure]

Word

[@nlitend1]

My f150 is worse. I'd take that ram one in a heart beat

[@Choclabdude]

The "engineer" that designed the oil filter location on my 2012 RAM needs an ass whoopin'

[@KAden-ew6cv]

Did I really see that correctly....WTF.

[@jardog16981]

There is nothing wrong with it.

[@shughes911]

This guy is my favorite truck reviewer

[@61BlueWhale]

I;ve been a huge fan of this series on this truck since you started it. For me I've always questioned the pea size fuel tank. Great video guys.

[@danbasham9207]

I have a 2009 RAM 1500 and a 2016. The 09 is my very modified off road, hunting and primary tow truck. The 2016 is my stock road trip and around town truck. Love them both.

[@Aaronv-jz2vh]

Hell I leveled my f.150 3.5 ecoboost and get 12.5 mpg so the rebel’s 17.5 is great to me haha

[@grizz474]

12.5 mpg, bummer!! My 2019 XLT Crew Cab 3.5 Ecoboost FX4 Max Tow ......I'm at 20.1mpg for a weekly average with mixed driving going back and forth to work. My best has been 23.4 on a 230 mile trip to the cabin. I couldn't be happier. Did you get anything close to 20 before you lifted it?

[@2ShotsDown]

Depending on the year they have carbon build up issues that tanks the mpg rating.

[@ChrisParayno]

Ouch

[@camonly849]

If you idle a lot that doesnt help, or all city driving.

[@sethcortez9516]

Dang that's what my 2012 Raptor gets

[@nathanc777]

Very impressed that they replaced that driveshaft under warranty.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

That's very shocking as rams warranty department is horrendous.

[@elliottbran]

They probably played the youtube card..

[@dontderockmeriz4546]

They only honored the warranty bc they’d put it on the channel is they didn’t & make them look bad. For me & you we would’ve been shown the door.

[@wildbill23c]

@@elliottbran I agree, they probably initially said no to warrantying that but I'm sure TFL said oh well we will post it on KZbin that you didn't fix the truck that we bashed to hell on purpose and tell everyone how horrible your product is. 100% what they did. Being rich and having a KZbin channel gets you whatever you want anymore.

[@Rubeless]

All warranty companies are difficult to deal with. They don’t make money if they do free work. They love to tell you it’s a software issue.

[@AndrewPL5]

To be fair, with all the mods to the truck it can't be expected to get EPA gas mileage. That bar and lights in the back of the truck would cause a lot of those issues I would think, and the larger tires.

[@RyanRKJ]

The did fuel economy testing when the truck was stock, before the modifications.

[@kimojon9665]

That Ram truck is just so BAD ASS!!! Love it! Some day it will be mine

[@Ryan40272]

Drive shaft covered under warranty because they didn't want bad publicity in a video. Trailer pin connectors replaced under warranty because they didn't want bad publicity in a video. Look at all the Wrangler owners with denied claims for being offroad. Buddy of mine has same problem with his pin and they can never duplicate it. My Ram has now been at the dealer 5 times in 3 months over coolant leaks. 4 from the same place. 🤦‍♂️

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

I've had many issues with my longhorn, but it still hasn't left me on the side of the road like my POS f150 did.

[@Ryan40272]

@@JohnDoe-nz6bk complete opposite for for me. My F150 was a rock star.

[@kerrypence4201]

You need to go to a different dealer buddy… Some dealers are great and some dealers absolutely suck! It’s really amazing the difference between service departments because some care and some don’t

[@madeyalook5942]

Chrysler trucks are trash 🤣

[@Ryan40272]

@@madeyalook5942 love the name and pic 😂

[@Flyinghook]

my year old ram got returned to the dealership with a tailgate that never worked, a radio that didn't work periodically, and a brake system that made me jam the pedal into the firewall to start the truck despite too many dealership trips and too many recalls. also, much like yours, mine struggled to live up to the EPA numbers despite the low 55mph speed limit in my area

[@andyham6094]

I’ve been doing a lot of off roading on trails similar to what you see of TFL, nothing too crazy like the rubicon but definitly nothing like a normal dirt rocky road. I’ve had my 4runner for 20,000 miles and nothing has been broken on the 4Runner so far.

[@jabronjunklove760]

But do you have 35's on it?

[@paulhunter9613]

JaBron Prob has the factory stock 14” tires on it

[@rebelndirt8830]

I have a 17 rebel and I added a winch behind the factory bumper. Best mod I have made to my truck so far.

[@CopCat34]

Great video Andre. Glad the dealer replaced your wiring harness connector and axle shaft. Really wonder if the dealership would replace them if you didn't have a KZbin channel. We have two dealerships in town. I would buy a Ram from one and not the other. I would recommend repairs and service at the other one. Glad we have a choice here in town.

[@MadJawa889]

Thanks for all your extensive information guys! Thanks to you guys I decided to make a move and purchase a 2021 Ram Rebel Night edition. I bought her in Florida vacationing and then drove her up north to NJ where I live. Flawless and super comfortable; tons of power we love our Ram Rebel!!

[@brandontrevino9917]

Hello from cuero Texas!!!!! I just got me a 2019 lone star 4x4 with the hemi! I love it!!

[@TFLtruck]

Congrats!

[@TFLtruck]

Congrats!

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Gobble gobble

[@DeltaSierra426]

One of TFLtruck's best videos to date! Great work guys. Although I know the mods were cool and fun, the majority of viewers and the market can't afford a new fairly-loaded Rebel + all those add-ons. I recommend using a less-optioned-out truck in the future as your long term truck and pick one mod that is in your opinions most needed by that truck for great all-around off-road experience, be it a lift, bigger tires, overhead LED lights, and whatever. Power mods are cool but not cost-effective at all... and the Hemi already sounds great on Ram 1500.

[@kennthbennett7320]

50k miles is usually when you find out what your vehicle is made of! It's all good until the warranty runs out!

[@blackraven8841]

122k miles on my 2014 Ram 4x4, runs just fine considering how hard a drive it everyday

[@rodneybjornstad9016]

I have a 2014 ford f 150 230k spins No issues My last one o sold at 330k No issues Prior 220k. No issues but a little rust Makes it hard to “ switch” brands Saw a gorgeous Ram today Brought me here Grew up driving Chevy and GMC pickups Have never owned one All three make good trucks I’d say

[@lbjailer]

Fixing the axle under warranty; might have been different for a usual consumer. I haven't experienced anything like this, but if I was a consumer and doing heavy off road driving the dealer could argue that you were pushing the limit of the truck too hard. Overall I like the truck and enjoy watching you put it through it's paces.

[@joelesko681]

Fantastic long term update Andre!!!

[@KARTURK1]

I love my REBEL!! Love everything about it.

[@allnfun6315]

Karen Turk MPG been decent for you?

[@KARTURK1]

I don't look at it.

[@ralphvalkenhoff2887]

I’m very happy with my 19 Ram 5.7 4x4. Drove 17k without any problems. Once a month or so, I lead foot it and bring the rpms up to 6k as I reach 100 mph. Love the 400 horses in my hemi.

[@johnappleseed9290]

The Rebels start to have serious malfunctions after 125,000 miles. My neighbors 2018 rebel started to have serious transmission issues right at 65k. How many miles do you have it now? If you still own it lol

[@philtripe]

we have had that damn truck for a year and we still didnt get a city mileage test loop...you paid extra for mild hybrid and never really used it...we need a city test loop for people like me that work in town

[@bobscoolcars]

The mileage will not be accurate. Changing tire size REALLY tells the computer that you went less miles than you actually went. Other changes like exhaust and intake can also change the MPG.

[@leftcoastoverland8750]

2big 2fail I have a fuel economy test video I did last year on the 2019 Ram Rebel, did 21 mpgs without the E-torque!

[@nobunaga-oda]

😐

[@paulj9821]

@@nobunaga-oda Mopar or NoCar

[@nobunaga-oda]

@@paulj9821 😁👍🏻

[@marcvielfaure9236]

Recently I got the good fortune of getting a lease upgrade from a Ford Escape to a Rebel for 10 days. I was not a "Ram Fan" in any way but boy was I impressed. 2 things I came away with was how amazing the interior is and the auto Start stop was not the boogie monster everyone made it out to be. In fact It was so smooth I drove for a week before I even realized it had that feature.

[@adamharriger5193]

Awesome video! Id say the Rebel was exceptional, especially considering it is a first year new model. In comparison my 2018 F150 (not a new model) has had way more issues, but none of the abuse you gave the Rebel. Yep- back in the shop right now actually.

[@Montana270]

Hey what issues have u had? I have a 2016 f150 and it hasn't been in the shop once.

[@adamharriger5193]

Lucas Harris 4wd hub vacuum issues @3k miles, several electronics issues (usb hubs replaced, trailer harness water intrusion, reverse sensors replaced), and dealer verified just yesterday it has the cold start engine rattle- vct/ timing chain problem. What is most frustrating is that every time it has a problem its 2 weeks to get into dealer, then the parts are always unavailable/backordered, so its another month before anything is fixed. The current engine problem is awaiting the actual tsb from Ford to be released, per dealer there are no parts currently- “check back in January”. That repair according to dealer will likely be replacing the vct units, and if it wasnt in warranty would be approx. $4200. Less than 2 years and 35k miles and i think its been 10 dealer visits for diagnose and repair so far which is unacceptable in my opinion. Also the undercarriage of the truck is rusting terribly, the rear diff looks like its 10 years old- I see this on alot of 2018 and newer trucks when sitting behind them in traffic (can tell year by stamped tailgate). Other various quality issues including tailgate handle sticking, dash hump, warped glove box etc... This is my first ford, I love the 3.5 ecoboost power and mpg, but with these issues it will be my last.

[@Montana270]

@@adamharriger5193 Wow! That's crazy man! Sorry to hear u got a lemon...

[@jwolveee]

Was sweating it out until 13:50 ... just picked up my Rebel yesterday. Great video - thanks! 👍

[@jasonquaile2492]

I'm most impressed by RAM replacing a driveshaft under warranty on a modified truck. Taking care of customers after they've paid isn't done by every company/dealership

[@evjau5]

Jason Quaile that’s because these guys have a huge KZbin channel. Ram would look bad if they didn’t replace it

[@michaelmurphy5221]

They used all Mopar

[@jasonquaile2492]

@@michaelmurphy5221 good point

[@michaelmurphy5221]

@Jappy Time You mean the guy that can only speak if his hands are moving? He is in love with an 80’s Corolla. Let me go ask him for wisdom

[@BC_Offroad]

Love these reviews and appreciate all the time and work that goes into these videos! You guys are my first stop for honest car and truck reviews. Thanks!

[@aaron5222]

2 recalls and a drive shaft meh. That's 3 or 2 trips to the dealership not to mention the time you go without the truck and the time spent at the dealership. And me personally I have bad anxiety with dealers

[@unknowntrucker7010]

I had the same recall took 30 min not bad...but still

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

🤣 then you definitely shouldn't buy a Ford!

[@craigquann]

The lift shouldn't have affected it. Independent front suspension. The front diff and trans case dont move. So the drive angles shouldn't have changed. If it was a CV shaft from the diff to the wheel, then yes. But 2" wont change much either.

[@unknowntrucker7010]

@@craigquann they are lucky it was covered under warranty can't they void warranty if you modify suspension

[@craigquann]

@@unknowntrucker7010 yea they can if they can prove it contributed to the failure. The 35" tires instead of the stock 33" would be a good reason due to the additional weight/stress. But even that aside. The videos of the usage could be considered abusive. Dont get me wrong, a truck should hold up to alot. But in this situation. I'd say fair game if it was out of pocket. But I guess they want good publicity too.... so...

[@marineviper04]

I’m in same boat!! Over a year and the only thing that broke is the front driveshaft in the same exact spot yours broke while I got stuck in some gumbo mud.

[@craigquann]

I'm surprised that they replaced the drive shaft under warranty. Most would have blamed the lift/larger tires and "driver abuse". But glad it worked out.

[@rkalla]

The dealer has done a number of repairs for TFL that no other customer would experience. Their dealer knows who they are - happy for them, sad for us normal shoppers.

[@craigquann]

@@rkalla yea your probably right. Especially if they have a bad experience and do a report. However given the circumstances. I wouldn't fault the dealer either...

[@SimplyCarReviews]

@@craigquann true but for us "real" consumers it skews this review... as replacing the drive shaft would have cost a pretty penny. I still like the truck though!

[@UltraSS-nj8kd]

That's where the show is inaccurate, biased dealers. Truth be told you have about right under a 50% chance of you getting anything fixed by the corporate pos dealerships.

[@craigquann]

@@SimplyCarReviews yea. But vast majority of buyers wont be doing cliffhanger 2.0 either.....lol. however I'm not the vast majority... so yea I don't/wouldn't expect coverage.... tho my GM dealer does honor my lifetime undercoating/respray warranty for the rust proofing even tho I scuff it off every summer.....and have gotten zero flack for my leveling kit, or intake or oil catch can install... so I guess it depends.

[@Scott534]

Great real-world review! Keep up the videos-we truly enjoy them!

[@jabroni6199]

My personal conclusion would be "no" You guys have had plenty of other trucks that did what the Rebel did without breaking.

[@theroughblueram114thgen5]

Headlights look cheap… they are constantly flickering lol. I love my 4th gen 2011 Ram 1500 4x4 ! I had $800 upgraded led head light housings with drl and ditched them and they did not flicker like 5th gen rebel in video . Love the videos though

[@ejesoriginal]

Recalls, repairs, break downs, inconsistent quality...this is why I finally decided to trade my '04 Dodge 1500, which I bought new, for a Tundra this past black Friday. Dodge always fixed things without question while on warranty, but I was without my truck a lot, especially with repairs after warranty. I just could not go back to that. I have had many Dodge/Chrysler products over the last 30 years and some would have even called me a "fanboy". But, I have to say, even though I enjoy your channel, I'm sorry...all those mods are just putting lipstick on a pig. I wish you could tell us your opinion at 100k on the dial of that Rebel. It is only going to get worse with Peugeot in the mix...

[@jmgaming1224]

Nissan and Toyota, a Shane the two of them aren’t more popular since they’re both honest trucks

[@chadsteele1]

I also owned a dodge 05. Nice truck always in the shop, sold it and drove a car for a while, bought a Toyota pick up which was a great truck but hated the seating position. Traded for a Nissan xterra which eventually got traded for a Titan. It's a great truck. TOO bad I more ppl don't leave Gm Ford dodge, like guy says below, Nissan Toyota are honest good trucks.

[@madeyalook5942]

Chrysler trucks 🤣

[@brokenarrow6491]

I have an 04 also and it's been the best vehicle I've ever owned. Strange how one can have so many problems and another one having no issues.

[@ShouriSeifuku]

To be honest, you're comparing two different companies with now two different company cultures. Some people are giving Fiat a chance, others are not. I'm from Italy, so i've had my share of shitty Fiats. Uno, Panda, Tipo, etc... You name it. But, lately, they've made some changes. Good to see, but we won't know until the long run...

[@joeyrakas8364]

Major *sigh* when seeing Toyo Open Country A/T's put on and honestly was surprised. Had them on past 2 trucks and hated them. switched to the BFG TA/KO'2 and will never go back. In nasty driving conditions such as snow, ice, and mud, there is absolutely no comparison. Then again probably plenty who have had the total opposite experience as me lol. Anyway awesome video and thanks for sharing :P Always great content fellas!

[@SteveNoblin]

When tackling a hill you go at it from an angle, not straight on.

[@gsxellence]

Wow I had my Ram rebel for about 6 months that I put 37,000 miles on it. I love that truck but those good year tires had to go; once those were replaced it was an even better overall truck long-term.

[@scotturich]

I’m glad you guys at TFL have had a good experience overall, I bought my 2019 RAM with in weeks of you guys and I have so many electrical gremlins to the point that now I have had move forward with Lemon Law. Do I think all Rams are bad absolutely no; had 2013 and not one problem in 100k. I just think I got the truck that was made Friday 😝. I will be replacing the truck the Gladiator Rubicon. In the mid size market there aren’t many trucks that can tow 7k pounds, has front and rear lockers and disconnecting sway bar. Good luck with Rebel and can’t wait for the next project.

[@TFLtruck]

Sorry to hear about your troubles. That sucks!

[@mattonthewater]

Moving from one Chrysler pos to another? Good call 😂

[@scotturich]

mattonthewater like I said I don’t think that they are bad, I just think I ended up with a bad egg. Happens with Ram, Ford, GM, even Toyota. Doesn’t mean that everyone of them are bad.

[@mecalpsha4473]

What all electrical issues you have (can you list them out) - still a GREAT Truck either RAM or GM with a V8 or diesel no 'turdo v6's'

[@timmbos]

I have a 19' Limited 4x4 delivered in February of this year. Truck has been perfect over the last 8200 miles with one exception. A wiring harness was not secured properly on the assembly line. 150 miles after delivery the harness rubbed against a bracket and into a buss feedback wire and caused the truck to go into limp mode. Other than that...no issues. I love this truck!

[@abornrebel6792]

I enjoy watching these not only because I'll be investing into a ram rebel, but mainly because you sound like Raymond

[@drjhunter]

Good honest review

[@831jperry]

Because of all these Rebel videos, I ended up buying one last week! Thanks for all the great content!!

[@utahnavyvet8727]

Just bought a 2021 3 days ago myself and am loving it so far.

[@831jperry]

@@utahnavyvet8727 what color did you get??

[@utahnavyvet8727]

@@831jperry I went with the Granite and the night package so everything is blacked out.

[@831jperry]

@@utahnavyvet8727 nice! I went with the flame red with the midnight package.

[@utahnavyvet8727]

@@831jperry sweet. Did you get the 5.7 Hemi?

[@amolinari9]

Ahhh but now that the rebel has the ecodiesel I want that one instead esp for a daily driver and long road trips getting 30mpg 😎

[@Costanza009]

Am I the only one that loves the way Andre says "torque " ?

[@gerardomendoza9688]

3:41 the breaks sound like the Titanic sinking

[@gerardomendoza9688]

@Bearded Clam true that, thanks 👍 I was typing too fast LoL 😆

[@ricwestdoesitwork]

Great video, great review. I for have been impressed by the Ram Rebel and you did some awesome upgrade/mods to the truck. Thanks for sharing Andre.

[@todda8695]

Broke a drive shaft with ~20k miles on it and you would buy it again?! Wow. Good luck when that happens again among other things and it ISN'T under warranty anymore. I don't buy trucks that leave me stranded with very few miles on them.

[@todda8695]

@@uncle_salty_3675 Sounds like we know who the fanboi here is making excuses for RAM's notorious reputation for poor quality products.

[@okigojuryu]

@@todda8695 as the other dude said, all of those things would easily contribute to a vehicle breaking. And I am not a fanboy, I'm a HUMMER guy.

[@gtw_alpha]

Wouldn't the lift and tires cause the reduction in fuel economy from factory stats?

[@magorose7382]

That trail was pretty light for a break like that I’d be pissed

[@kompoundkyle1621]

Mago Rose the rock got wedged and the tire couldn’t spin, all the power going to a tire that can’t release it will cause breakage...

[@ghosteye007]

@Jessi Louis Naw this is just poor offroading driver skills. I've taken a stock z71 colorado multiple times through the mountains of colorado never had an issue.

[@andrewybanez200]

ghosteye007 agreed, Roman has got to be one of the worst off road drivers I’ve seen, never takes responsibility for poor driving lines, zero finesse 😐 the other guys really carry the channel

[@Stuka87]

Nice of the dealership to replace the drive shaft being that you guys had much larger tires than stock. Its been fun seeing all the videos of it. Looking forward to seeing its replacement.

[@lance_r72]

Love this truck series! Thanks to Andre and TFL for doing it.!!! The gas mileage with the 3.92 gears sucks. And the factory wheels look better than the beadlocks, IMO. Question now is will Andre buy it?

[@jw8578]

The raptor brakes didn't whine like that... I do like the ram design. I'm wondering about long term reliability though... seems like tundra is a good choice for reliability but man that truck is out of date...

[@jamieyakssch4348]

Yall got robbed on the accesserories for the truck😂😂🤮 .

[@TheMinnow101]

Most likely got them for free.

[@Stuka87]

I doubt they paid for them. It was all advertising for the companies that provided them.

[@chadsteele1]

They got robbed when they bought it, dodge garbage.

[@Mark-wq1nh]

Mopar accessories = 2× the price of aftermarket

[@LuisSanchez-dk7ne]

@@chadsteele1 lol yeah says the guy with a chevy... we all know you're racist now

[@nokoolaid]

Looks like they use CV joints on the driveshaft instead of U Joints. I've read they don't hold up as well and often replaced on Wranglers because if that.

[@cpear760]

Waiting to see if the ball joints hold up...

[@ajl9491]

Snap!

[@tallll70]

I had to change them early on 2006 model, was 10 years old 125k miles, it didn't have no loose feel while driving, but i asked tire rep shop friend to tell me and show me if it will get tiny loose while he is checking it by hand on lift. It had little tick and i wanted ball joints mint condition, got the most expansive ones ($750 all parts) with grease points and month later tree totaled the truck... They were really squeaking about 20k earlier, so 100k miles ball joints out is too early

[@Montana270]

They won't lol

[@salamon1080]

I have learned so much from your videos...and I am picking up my 2020 Rebel tomorrow (Friday the 13) and I just realized I am getting it from the same place you guys got yours, Johnson Auto Mart...crazy...thanks for all your videos!!

[@garthhayward9581]

Next should be the 2020 Diesel 3.0 Gladiator, would like to see how it performs on a long term test once it's launched next year.

[@philtripe]

stuff will break but hey thats the life style Jeep must be talking about...sitting around at the dealership waiting for yet another repair

[@buzzpedrotti5401]

It will probably break as well, if you put it to such challenges.

[@buzzpedrotti5401]

Still funny watching an unreliable Toureg rescue a broken Ram.

[@samjohnson9894]

Why were the wheels changed from OEM to the others? OEM's look much better and I haven't yet seen where you needed bead locks. Less is more sometimes. And thanks for the closure on the front axle shaft breakage. Gotta say tho...a serious drive train issue is much worse than a bad towing harness. One could get you killed, the other is just an annoyance. Or a moving violation at worst. Anyway, great job on the series. ALOT of work went into that and thank you for your efforts. It is a service to many RAM owners no doubt.

[@stephenlozada7158]

13:50 under warranty until they see this video 😂

[@johnfinch8173]

A few notes from a life long off-roader: 1) The fidiot using the Tuareg to tow the ram in reverse broke one of the fist commandments of towing. Never tow anything or even bump start any vehicle in reverse as you can snap off the ring gear or pinion teeth! 2) Fitting bigger tyres than standard puts extra strain on the drivetrain especially under shock loading and also affects fuel economy as well. I'm surprised Ram repaired the damage under warranty as non-standard tyres were fitted. I guess Ram considered the repairs as " not who you know but who you are" in this situation. Other than my comments a great truck!

[@hc4151]

When will you review the 2019 ram 2500 6.4 with 8 speed transmission?

[@marvinheadrick3511]

Hector Cortes , see the many power wagon videos they have already posted. 👍🏻

[@stardeceiver]

We’re waiting for the 3500 non-powerwagon, loaded with 3000lbs in the box and towing a 14000lb bumper pull.

[@mikz86ta1]

Trailer 7-pin issue.....our 2011 HD Sierra has same issue. Disturbing when towing our 43ft toyhauler the error message always shows up. I added the in-bed connection myself. But GM these years have a bad issue with the frame mounted trailer brake controller.

[@ArtisanTony]

A guy like you should be driving Ford

[@bruinsfan8522]

More like a Ridgeline

[@ManMak6]

3:27 those wheels look very good on this truck. I agree with a lot of comments here about the warranty repair, if it wasn’t for your KZbin platform presence, regular people would have been f&?$ed over by the Ram! The long term review is very valuable! Thank you!

[@toofastnobrakes]

I would love to see you guys do this with a power wagon next!!!

[@chefshooter1383]

Thanks for the honest review!

[@terrencejones9817]

Lost to the Trail Boss in Moab. Trail Boss made it up cliffhanger 2.0 100% stock and didn't break.

[@4673962]

Yep, it also lost in fuel mileage. Payload. Recalls. They just announced on the news that ram has a total of 13 recalls so far. The most of any 1/2 ton truck. Plus other things. Just watch this channel. Trailboss is a lot better in everything.

[@wildbill23c]

Trail Boss? The Chevy Silverado correct? I'm not a GM fan but their new trucks are looking good, and since Toyota has failed to update their 10+ year old outdated Tundra The Silverado HD or the new 2020 F250 7.3L are both on my list...IDK just would really depend on the incentives for me I think. I had a horrible dealing with GM on a vehicle in the past which really gave me a horrible taste for GM in general...I've always been a Ford & Jeep person...I did have a 2008 Toyota Tundra but with some repeat mechanical issues that thing got dumped at 104k miles and haven't regretted going back to much older vehicles sense then, but probably in a year or 2 I'll be looking at a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup and it'll most likely be up to GM or Ford to win me over and put a new truck in my driveway.

[@terrencejones9817]

@@wildbill23c Yes the Trail boss trim is for 1500 series only though. I have a 2019 Silverado Trail boss and I love it. In HD trucks you can get a GMC Serria AT4 off road trim.

[@wildbill23c]

@@terrencejones9817 Ok, thanks, I was thinking they offered the Trail Boss for the HD's too...guess I'll take a peak at the AT4 then. Want to start looking now and not wait till the last minute LOL.

[@Dwayne7834]

Thanks for the update and review.

[@firebir11]

Never tow or snatch another vehicle out backwards, that’s a good way to tear up your driveline.

[@dchawk81]

[s] I have no control over which way the rescued vehicle is pointing. [/s]

[@Boobtube.]

@@dchawk81 firebir11 meant the "towing vehicle" not the "towed vehicle"

[@dchawk81]

@@Boobtube. I know. The [s] and [/s] meant sarcasm. 🙃

[@enbbarber2218]

I’m a gm guy but love watching u guys do what you did with the truck ... maybe do gm or Ford for your next year long .... great channel great video

[@jlg5798]

Can’t wait for a 7 year review

[@Sugar_bug]

JL G by looking at all the problems this truck had after only one year and 20k, in 7 years the truck belongs to a junk yard.

[@gasolinediesel972]

@@Sugar_bug Didn't have many problems.

[@kim6261]

The front tire rolled that big rock up between the body and the tire which kept the tire from being able to spin. That's what snapped the axle.