2019 Ram 1500 V6 vs V8 eTorque take on The World's Toughest Towing Test (Ike Gauntlet 2019)

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@billblonco
@billblonco 5 жыл бұрын
The Pentastar v6 towing almost 100% of it’s rating up a hill @ above sea level should get considerable praise.
@donleamon8653
@donleamon8653 5 жыл бұрын
Considerably above sea level. I agree, it did a decent job.
@Banner1986
@Banner1986 5 жыл бұрын
For a 22 grand difference? Pentastar all day long.
@davekauffman561
@davekauffman561 5 жыл бұрын
Banner1986, For 2600 bucks you can get the v8 in the tradesman. Your paying 22k more for the limited over the tradesman. Two totally different types of trucks.
@Banner1986
@Banner1986 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd still pass.
@reserva120
@reserva120 5 жыл бұрын
well said.. plus your daily non towing mileage is far better..
@hockeynutt9434
@hockeynutt9434 5 жыл бұрын
These are the best real world reviews. Always well done.
@muellerpk
@muellerpk 5 жыл бұрын
I tow with a 2017 ram v6 with around 6klbs for work fairly regularly and it actually has a decent amount of power...its impressive for a v6
@Sean_thompson_bass
@Sean_thompson_bass 4 жыл бұрын
V6s put out old v8 numbers now, and v8s now out perform old v10 and diesel engines. Crazy
@rondellschuyler7074
@rondellschuyler7074 Жыл бұрын
@@Sean_thompson_bass A hemi will not out pull a Cummins diesel. No way. I have seen both. The hemi is a mule. A Cummins diesel is a Clydesdale.
@Sean_thompson_bass
@Sean_thompson_bass Жыл бұрын
@Rondell Schuyler I meant comparing modern vs old engines. As far as gas vs diesel, the 6.4 hemi currently has more hp and torque than, say, the old 5.9 cummins. The supercharged engine would make even more power. But on the flip side, you could always build up an old cummins into a monster. And as far as a modern gas vs a modern diesel engine, then of course the diesel will out perform the gas engine. It'll be interesting to see how Cummins' upcoming gas engines perform compared to diesels.
@catztruck929
@catztruck929 3 ай бұрын
@@rondellschuyler7074he said some modern gasoline engines out perform some old diesel engines. Comprehension is difficult I guess.
@leecrumble3921
@leecrumble3921 3 ай бұрын
@@rondellschuyler7074 especially above sea level can't beat a turbo diesel.
@smc1377
@smc1377 5 жыл бұрын
I just have to say, I don't own a truck and I will probably never own a truck. But you guys do such a great job on your show (personalities, production value, editing) that I'm sitting here at 8am watching your video about trucks.
@TFLtruck
@TFLtruck 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@gregormiller4037
@gregormiller4037 5 жыл бұрын
Agree with your sentiment smc...but SHHHH! Don't tell them, dun want to inflate egos too much:), I give'em grief when ever I can, keeps them grounded hehe.
@hawdyarabdulla6884
@hawdyarabdulla6884 5 жыл бұрын
+The Fast Lane Truck thank you tflt you do the right job but please make an off road video on chevy tahoe z71
@TheBigkal201
@TheBigkal201 5 жыл бұрын
May I ask why you are so interested in these videos when you obviously have no interest in owning a truck?
@smc1377
@smc1377 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigkal201 Sure, you can ask. I just like being knowledgeable about many things, even if it's things that don't directly apply to my life. For example, I'm also not a gun owner, but I like knowing about learning about guns and even how their different ammo like say the differences between a .223 and a 5.56. Or like the differences between the Canon 5D Mark IV and the Canon 5Ds R. Or like which latest cell phone has the nicest camera. So in that respect, I like watching videos like this...even if I'll never own a truck.
@lifesaver718
@lifesaver718 5 жыл бұрын
Lets do an all out V6 test....Chevy 4.3L vs Dodge 3.6L vs Ford 3.3L.....
@brendanhall9346
@brendanhall9346 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a dodge guy all the way but that 4.3 vortec is a wicked engine I had a 2001 s10 xtreme and that 4.3 is a great little engine I'd take a 4.3 over the pentastar any day but I'd take a 5.7 hemi over any other v8 truck
@91CavGT5
@91CavGT5 3 жыл бұрын
The modern 4.3L GM V6 has nothing in similarity to the old 4.3L that was in the S10 and full size trucks. The new 4.3 is completely different.
@treyfisse3230
@treyfisse3230 3 жыл бұрын
@@brendanhall9346 The Hemi 5.7 is hard to beat these days
@jacobauld565
@jacobauld565 2 жыл бұрын
I am but no means a dodge/ram guy but after driving a ram pro master 1500 with a 3.6 as a company vehicle that motor can take some abuse… even in the mountains in Hawaii it won’t win you any races but it ran flawless
@canamxmr4760
@canamxmr4760 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I subscribed! No other reviewers provide real world comparisons or videos of what people are actually curious about.
@mr.p960
@mr.p960 2 жыл бұрын
DO NOT BUY THIS TRUCK I HAVE A 2019 RAM HEMI 1500 IN ONE YEAR I HAD TO REPLACE THREE BATTERIES ONE RADIATOR AND NOW THE OVERHEAD CONSOL STOP WORKING NOW TODAY 08/7/2021 AT 135 PM IT IS BACK IN THE SHOP AGAIN FOR THE BATTERY AND THIS IS A 72,000 DOLLAR RAM LIMITED ABSOLUTE WORST TRUCK EVER DON'T BUY IT.
@esaflaka9155
@esaflaka9155 10 ай бұрын
@@mr.p960got a defective one i guess
@alexisguilbe8040
@alexisguilbe8040 Жыл бұрын
Guys, thanks for the information. I have a RAM 1500 4WD V8. No regrets and up to 19.2 MPG climbing hills and down the hill with up to 1000 pounds. Excellent pick up.
@bigblueram86
@bigblueram86 5 жыл бұрын
the best reviews on youtube but guys yall dont need loud music clouding up your voices
@komaboi19
@komaboi19 5 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best way to make a living. Reviewing and playing with trucks (and some other stuff I'm guessing)!
@dooginator2008tx
@dooginator2008tx 5 жыл бұрын
You guys have the BEST truck review channel on KZbin. By far. I watch your channel like I watch regular television.
@miggyv6856
@miggyv6856 Жыл бұрын
The V6 deserves praise for the way it performed. Not only did it complete the task, but it did it while pushing at its limit. In addition, rarely will anyone be towing close to 8k pounds at that type of elevation and grade. That v6 earned a thumbs up for what it is.
@TheJoncic
@TheJoncic 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah to be fair the 3.6 did better than I thought I would.
@leehancock2782
@leehancock2782 5 жыл бұрын
It did very well, it would be fine in the flat lands
@ramrunner3199
@ramrunner3199 5 жыл бұрын
I went from a hemi Ram to a 3.6 grand Cherokee and while the pentastar is no hemi it’s a bad ass v6. Guys wanna laugh look up some ripe supercharger videos some of these things are making 450 wheel hp with just a supercharger Instal not bad
@douglas685
@douglas685 5 жыл бұрын
@@leehancock2782 The 8 speed should help quite a bit too. I own the 300 with the 3.6l V6, it is pretty soft until 4,000rpm then it really kicks. If you kept it at in gear 3,500-4,000rpm it'll really pull.
@marvinr5054
@marvinr5054 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I came across this video I watched you guys all the time and I've been wondering how these two trucks would do against each other. Thank you guys
@BassRacerx
@BassRacerx 5 жыл бұрын
the cool thing is that you maxed out the ram v6 and it was ABLE to complete the mission. ram set an honest maximum tow rating on the v6. Honestly I would never need to tow with a pickup truck i just like having the bed to haul stuff with the ram v6 is definently on my radar!
@JoseChung21
@JoseChung21 5 жыл бұрын
Andre need that V8 vs V6 offroad video buddy - thanks for your work.
@bobcook231
@bobcook231 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You Guys !!!! Great Review. I am totally HAPPY with my 2016 Ram V6. I would never push an engine as hard as you do , even if it was a V8. I would just get in the slower lane watching the temp"s and enjoy the drive adding a few minutes up that pass like the 18 wheelers do on that Huge incline !!! I always baby my Truck on extreme roads . What is the rush,, You would never push your self that hard walking or bike riding up a steep hill , so why do it to your ,,, Truck that you Love . My V6 Ram now has almost 200 THOUSAND miles on it !!!!!!! YAAA !!! My Ram is the best RIDE I have ever Driven and Yes I love it , and RESPECT it . It does SO much work for me , I am so thankful for it .. Thanks for the Great Reviews Vadka and gang !!!!
@rondellschuyler7074
@rondellschuyler7074 3 жыл бұрын
Bob Cook. Your dodge Ram you said has nearly 200k on it. Does it use oil. My brothers 2010 5.7 hemi has 180k and it is using oil. Valve guides are worn. I am leaning toward the 3.6 engine.
@vackyvlada1
@vackyvlada1 Жыл бұрын
Bravo! Real world towing, no need to push speed, safety first and enjoy your ride 😀
@fishgill0890
@fishgill0890 5 жыл бұрын
2019 RAM 1500. Motor Trend Truck of the Year!
@ds6872
@ds6872 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I dig the budget truck test
@donovanturner6284
@donovanturner6284 5 жыл бұрын
I was wanting you guys to do this video!
@eventhisidistaken
@eventhisidistaken 3 жыл бұрын
I guess for me, on the rare occasions I max out going up a mountain, I can live with an extra 45 seconds to save $2500. I appreciate this, because I am convinced that what I want it for - daily commuter + towing a boat or small trailer < 4000lb in mostly flat terrain, the V6 is enough.
@SuperGman1213
@SuperGman1213 5 жыл бұрын
Drinking game: take a shot every time Andre says “hell yea.”
@williamarden5441
@williamarden5441 5 жыл бұрын
I'm already buzzed 😂
@mitchstake13
@mitchstake13 5 жыл бұрын
or "dude"
@nwomoe6713
@nwomoe6713 5 жыл бұрын
Haha I was thinking the same thing..I'm already greased..cheers from northern canada
@dchawk81
@dchawk81 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure if you want to die from alcohol poisoning.
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 5 жыл бұрын
@@dchawk81 Yeah, it's time for these guys to move on with that silly saying,..it's best by date came and went a long time ago on these TFL videos.
@thewalkindude7716
@thewalkindude7716 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Ike Gauntlet videos!!
@brianiannarelli1168
@brianiannarelli1168 5 жыл бұрын
Me to
@mannyd123
@mannyd123 2 жыл бұрын
I haul my 5500lb camper regularly across NJ through PA and upstate NY. Took it all the way out to the mid west on a big haunting camping trip. I bought the Ram1500 v6 etorque crew cab over the v6 Hemi. 13.5 MPG through mountains maintaining 60-70MPH. Very rarely have I ever topped 4000 RPMS (with 1 exception traveled through PA and forgot tow haul mode once at most I hit 4500 RPMs). 58k sticker price bought for 48k Fully loaded minus the airbag suspension. I invested extra money in a good weight distribution hitch. City driving I get 22-24MPG all day long. Drive the beach regularly on the Jerseyshore. V8Hemi has no use for me I will never haul 10,000lbs 😆
@yosam5184
@yosam5184 5 жыл бұрын
More and more I am liking that Tradesman V6 auto 4X4 with the bench seat.
@scottfurlong5475
@scottfurlong5475 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really liking the 3.6L 4x4 in the Bighorn trim. I've got an older 5.7L Dodge Ram 1500 and it's been a great truck as I've had no issues in 158,000 Km but with day to day driving, it can be thirsty. I'm considering a Tacoma or Ridgeline but I have a soft spot in my heart for the Ram 1500.
@scottfurlong5475
@scottfurlong5475 5 жыл бұрын
@@greco2189 26 mpg! That's excellent! It must be down hill to and from work. That works out to 9 L/100 km. My wife's minivan is getting 11.2 L/100 km (21 mpg) mixed driving and we are very happy with that. The absolute best I can get out of my 2010 Ram 1500 5.7L quad cab 4x4 is 15.8 L/100 km (14.5 mpg) and let me tell you, I'm nursing it along. It's not flat here at all. If I could keep a full size pickup and maintain pretty good fuel economy then I wouldn't even consider getting a smaller truck.
@rickgarcia8481
@rickgarcia8481 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottfurlong5475 my son has a 2019 Tacoma, it's terrible in my opinion... The most uncomfortable truck I've ever been it... Terrible ride... And he paid $40,000 for it
@robkenna2795
@robkenna2795 4 жыл бұрын
My is a 2018 3.6 3.55 gears quad 4x4 big horn.i drive with a pretty light foot. In the warmer months it will do a honest 25-26 all highway doing 70 and letting it drop to 65 on hills. I was getting almost 28 on the way home from upstate PA until i hit construction on pa turnpke. Most ive towed was around 2500 pounds. Still got 18-19 and wasnt having any trouble keeping up with traffic. No hemi, but impressive little engine so far
@andrewkenseth4814
@andrewkenseth4814 4 жыл бұрын
Rick Garcia I have the same Tacoma and I hate it. I’ve owned Rams my whole life and am currently shopping to go back to a RAM.
@greghale717
@greghale717 5 жыл бұрын
thanks NevadaMike, on the Ram Forums, for this being your FAVORITE video! :-)
@azphilip1960
@azphilip1960 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Great comparison!!! 👍👍👍👍👍😎
@joshuasamuels12
@joshuasamuels12 5 жыл бұрын
Best truck channel 💪🏾
@alvinmodeste31
@alvinmodeste31 5 жыл бұрын
Joshua Samuels b
@michaelneuhaus4432
@michaelneuhaus4432 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos very informative
@duggydo
@duggydo 5 жыл бұрын
Really good Ike video. Just a bit difficult to hear you guys over the music at times. Still a thumbs up.
@bradsterling4835
@bradsterling4835 5 жыл бұрын
I second that I'm trying to watch this video in the office without head phones and I was constantly moving the volume up and down.
@Funtimes670
@Funtimes670 5 жыл бұрын
TFL has done the music like this in almost all their videos! It’s a good thing their content is decent or I wouldn’t even watch them.
@seagullsbtn
@seagullsbtn 5 жыл бұрын
Agree the music steals your commentary. Was hoping for more time spent comparing the air v coil suspension. Your Canuck buddy fell in love with the air.
@rmkscrambler
@rmkscrambler 5 жыл бұрын
Chris I have a jeep with coil and a family member has one with air. The extra clearance available with the air is nice at times. But the coil just rides better IMO.
@bosse641
@bosse641 5 жыл бұрын
I agree it's too loud the music. ...have to constantly turn the volume up and down. Tiresome.
@kahuna9986
@kahuna9986 3 жыл бұрын
Comparison of engine , suspension system was excellent. I have the 5.7l v8 etorq and I am learning alot through your videos.
@ATRichard
@ATRichard 5 жыл бұрын
You must’ve read my mind - searched for this video yesterday and couldn’t find it. 24 hrs. later, here we are! Thanks! If you’re not going thru the mountains or towing the maximum weight, a V6 may work fine. Otherwise, get the HEMI.
@travisf7849
@travisf7849 5 жыл бұрын
Great video guys
@Mike_Y.
@Mike_Y. 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid guys
@rmkscrambler
@rmkscrambler 5 жыл бұрын
I have the 3.6 in a jeep Grand Cherokee with the 8 speed. I took a trip in Colorado a couple years back pulling a 3500lb trailer. Over 5 or 6 passes at least 3 => than the ike. I could hold 70 on every one that speed limit allowed:). Over all for the trip I averaged 16mpg which was impressive. The Toyota tundra 4.7 in the group with an extra 1000 lbs on the trailer averaged 8mpg. The 3500lb trailer probably had more wind drag. Point being this engine is great for most. Id say regular towing of up to 5000lbs is fine. In the video it clearly did really well with 7000lbs considering its size and the load. But if towing was a regular thing the 5.7 is a must.
@frankgrochot8719
@frankgrochot8719 5 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, with working at a Jeep Chrysler dealership for a few years I was always a must have a V8 in the Grand Cherokees as the 3.7 was gutless. The 3.6 with the old 6 speed was good but not great. I recently was given a 2016 grand limited with the 3.6/8speed combo when my ram was getting brakes done. That thing flat out flew. I was super impressed with it. Plus it was averaging 25 mpg when I had it. I seriously couldn't say enough good things about it.
@rmkscrambler
@rmkscrambler 5 жыл бұрын
They are really impressive little engines, as a daily around town driver I average 23 in the summer and 21 in the winter. 25-28 on the hyw. After owning one I would probably opt for the V6 over the V8 unless I had the money for a track hawk of course but that will never happen.
@benkuhns230
@benkuhns230 5 жыл бұрын
Chrysler's Just Junk
@rmkscrambler
@rmkscrambler 5 жыл бұрын
@@benkuhns230 Yet they complete every ike run thrown at them. Something Ford can't seam to do.
@tallll70
@tallll70 5 жыл бұрын
same here, i rented v6 2017 Ram i had 26 mpg empty, 22 on way back with some things, not bad
@DODGEDETROIT
@DODGEDETROIT 5 жыл бұрын
nice to see the difference between V8 & V6!
@ChannelZeroOne
@ChannelZeroOne 5 жыл бұрын
LOL same gas mileage less everything else.
@brevinainslie6357
@brevinainslie6357 2 жыл бұрын
2017 3.6 4x4 quad cab, hasn’t let me down yet!
@codylau7718
@codylau7718 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a lease for a 21 ram with the pentastar. I'm pretty impressed and may end up buying out it in the end.
@RPG__Dave
@RPG__Dave 5 жыл бұрын
Great review and details. One small criticism and I have seen this in multiple TFL videos. I would show the cheap truck first then the expensive one. This gives the user what to expect in the cheap and what to look forward to if they can afford the limited. When you show the limited first its like here is all of the good stuff now lets see what is missing! Build up not down. Most people will buy somewhere in the middle anyways.
@FreedomToRoam86
@FreedomToRoam86 4 жыл бұрын
I paid 39K for my 2019 RAM 1500 Classic, and love it. Wouldn't tow in mountains, but for midwest, is awesome, and I get 20-22 MPG on other trips; never get that with a thirsty 8.
@FreedomToRoam86
@FreedomToRoam86 3 жыл бұрын
@John That is interesting. Curious if you get same MPG towing lightish camper. It could be Ram has just got so efficient with their V8 that the limiting factor is how much energy you can get out of a gallon of gas. Ford on the other hand was never so efficient, with our 2010 Expedition at least
@matthewm3912
@matthewm3912 2 жыл бұрын
My 19 Durango RT got 24mpg highway all day.
@giobarajas3654
@giobarajas3654 Жыл бұрын
My 2016 Ram v6 gets the same mpg my buddy with his 14 ram gets... Both trucks leveled on 35s
@ricsccr
@ricsccr 3 ай бұрын
Disagree. I have a 19 classic crew cab with the 5.7 hemi and got 21.5 mpg from upstate NY to outer banks, NC. They're very fuel efficient when cruising. I only paid 30k for mine. I love that truck.
@5spikemike
@5spikemike 5 жыл бұрын
Great real test. Although the V6 was maxed out, I noticed that you were still passing other trucks and trailers on the hills. Yes, they were probably heavier trailers, but still... And, the V6 version missed the benchmark, but only by 41 seconds. Over an 8 mile uphill route, I'd say it still did the job. Bottom line, if you're going to tow 7000 lbs, especially in hills, get the V8. But, if you're not towing often and only towing about half the weight, then I think the V6 is a viable choice. Thanks guys.
@vojnikjna30
@vojnikjna30 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Hensley yes that’s correct but that was flooring the pentastar so squeezing every drop of power out where as the Hemi it was not. Personally I think the v6 would be ideal for 90% of half ton drivers
@tallll70
@tallll70 5 жыл бұрын
i always felt that MDS should switch to 6 cylinders instead 4, it could hold 6 cylinders much longer then 4, probably most of the easy foot ride on flat south interstates, having hopefully 25-26 mpg for all those runs
@5spikemike
@5spikemike 5 жыл бұрын
Like it so much that I bought one yesterday. Got a 2019 RAM 1500 Lone Star (Big Horn, but in Texas) w/3.6L V6 etorque. It has more power than you would think.
@tallll70
@tallll70 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Hensley that's how I felt, because of the higher RPM handling it feels lightweight, even the 2017 version was fast and responsive you just have the missing torque for heavy stuff
@5spikemike
@5spikemike 5 жыл бұрын
I want to give a little update. As I said in the comments, I went out and bought a 2019 RAM 1500 Lone Star w/3.6 etorque 2wd. I love the truck. My one disappointment early on is the gas mileage. I thought I was going to get better gas mileage. I live in a really flat area of the country. I haven't hauled anything. With 900 miles so far, my dash says that I'm averaging 17.5 mpg. That's with a lot of highway driving. I am intentionally driving really easy and consistently to try to maximize mpg. This is just from the dash computation. I will calculate it in the next couple of fill ups. I understand that the mileage should go up after the initial break in period. So, with 900 miles on the odometer, that should start improving. Still, I love the truck. But, if this is the gas mileage, then I wish I would have gotten the V8 that sounds like it gets the same mpg. I will post another update after some more miles and fill ups.
@aarsenalfan
@aarsenalfan 5 жыл бұрын
Just GOT 2019 BIG HORN V8 NO e-torque, I'm UBER HAPPY EXCITED 😀
@JW-ng2jn
@JW-ng2jn 5 жыл бұрын
Kudos to this series of videos and all the comments. I am considering a purchasing a 2019 Ram 1500 but can't decide between the 3.6 and the Hemi. I have been out of the truck world for about 40 years (since I was kid in rural NM). My wife and I live in Madison, WI, where we have not needed a truck. However, a few months ago, we bought some a some land in the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan, which is about a six hour drive from Madison. We decided that we would get a small travel trailer RV to use when we go up there. Once we made that decision, we knew we had to get a truck because our small SUV only has a towing capacity of 1500 lbs, but we were looking at RVs with dry weights of 2000 to 3500 lbs. We thought a Honda Ridgeline would be perfect, since it has a towing capacity of 5000 lbs. So we bought the Ridgeline a few months ago and then several weeks ago bought our travel trailer, a Little Guy Mini Max, which has dry weight of just under 2000 lbs. But in our maiden RV trip up there recently, the Ridgeline really struggled. The mpg dropped from 28-29 mpg for the same trip to around 12 mpg. More importantly, a "transmission fluid too hot" warning light came on during the drive up there and the drive home. We had to pull over for a half hour each time to let it cool. There are some hills on the just under six hour drive but no NOTHING even close to mountains. All of sudden, a 5.75 hour drive had turned into an eight hour one. Clearly, the Ridgeline is not up to the task. So we are looking to get a bigger truck. Though we are also considering some other trucks (especially the F150), if we decide on a Ram, what would be better for our situation, the Ram 3.6 or the Ram 5.7 Hemi? Any and all opinions greatly appreciated!!
@cooldw22
@cooldw22 Жыл бұрын
Hemi
@m.fheagle3286
@m.fheagle3286 3 жыл бұрын
I just went from a Grand Cherokee overland with the 5.7 to a 2019 1500 classic with 3.6 and 3.55. I haven’t had a chance to tow with it yet but the 8 speed transmission has unlocked the pentastar and my opinion of losing all that jam. The GC had air suspension too and in our mountains it gets cold! The compressor was constantly overworking and wouldn’t adjust the ride height as it was “cooling down”, plus when the rear airbags went it was $2600 fix. I’m happy to return to analog suspension. The Hemi had punch and easily passed at highway speed but the payload was so small on my GC, I’ve got the same tow rating (7200lbs) with my Classic with a higher payload and I’m not too concerned about pulls off the line when I take the fam camping. The SLT trim has retained enough of the luxury finishes that at $39k (CAD) I’m extremely satisfied with my 2019 Ram 1500 Classic.
@tuffr2
@tuffr2 3 жыл бұрын
Got to give it to the V6 - did a lot better than I thought it would.👍
@xevilhomer1167
@xevilhomer1167 4 жыл бұрын
So glad on this test you had the 3.92 in the Limited! I've been curious to see it because that's what mine has. I'm curious how a 5.7L with 3.21 would compare to a 5.7L 3.92 in a towing test on the ike and then an unloaded MPG loop!
@dand318
@dand318 5 ай бұрын
Same here, I'd love to see this test between a 3.21 and 3.92 E-Torque...
@jaimerivera2414
@jaimerivera2414 5 жыл бұрын
Dont know if anyone mentioned it, but Love the mountain views. 😁
@beniciogro9170
@beniciogro9170 4 жыл бұрын
excellent vid and commentary as always. As a nitpick from a new subscriber (doing research for my first truck at 40 years old), y'all blast the music at a volume and length of time that's kinda excessive. Mind you, I love rock and metal, but going from conversation to music to both simultaneously makes me constantly adjust the volume levels when I'm watching on my PC or when listening with headphones in. Just some constructive criticism from someone who just found the TFL channels last week who loves the quality AND quantity of the work y'all do! Oh, and thanks for all the vids on the Rams 1500's!
@robertoarchetti353
@robertoarchetti353 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video! You should review more base model trucks!
@holybuba
@holybuba 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you THANK YOU thank you. . This is the test I want to see..running the trucks WOT up the ike is yalls thing but this is the comparison stuff I love
@R1ze2the0k8z10n
@R1ze2the0k8z10n 4 жыл бұрын
Posted a video with an e torque hemi with 3:90s, no towing. Mileage was all over the place. Not the most scientific, but just to get a general idea. Thanks for this video.
@SW737Flyer
@SW737Flyer 5 жыл бұрын
Guys, love and watch all your videos. But please chill out on the music. It runs way too loud and right over top of your talking.
@Mixwell1983
@Mixwell1983 5 жыл бұрын
WHHATT?? I CAN'T HEAR YOU.. THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD!
@bobsundquist2039
@bobsundquist2039 3 жыл бұрын
I have had a 2019 v6 for 6 months now. It had 24,000 miles on it when I got it and was 30K. The same truck now is selling for almost 40. I pull a 22 ft camper that is 4200 dry and 5000 full. It is great going up to Cripple Creek or Estes Park. Driving around town as a daily driver I get about 22.8 mpg. On a recent run to Bozeman it was 23.8. Overall I am pretty happy with the truck so far. A little disappointed Ram does not put a brake controller in them but does have a tow/haul switch.
@timjones9206
@timjones9206 3 жыл бұрын
First generation E Torque...... I’ll pass. Luckily I found a 2021 Laramie with a 3.92 rear axle with NO E Torque. Love it. Great truck. Has the towing package as well. Puts my 2007 Ford King Ranch to shame. Great upgrade.
@mooseknucks1089
@mooseknucks1089 5 жыл бұрын
I can appreciate that you gave an apples to apples comparison with the same trailer for both trucks, but I have a sneaking suspicion that most people buying the V6 aren’t going to max the truck out with a 7k lb trailer. More like a 3500 lb utility trailer at most, and that’s why they got the V6.
@JsGarage
@JsGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Moose Knucks oh yea no doubt the V6 has a purpose. If you need a truck just for the bed and/or some light towing it is fine. I’m sure everyone now and then someone will Max one out though.
@jonathanmazzella1247
@jonathanmazzella1247 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 tradesman v6 (leather interior) I purchased slightly used (1200 miles) for 24k. I pull a 7x16 trailer with 4 atvs sideways at 75 mph in 5th gear on the weekends around 15 Miles per gallon no problems. Its plenty of truck for what i need and the gas mileage is great. I would agree 40k+ is too much money for a cloth v6 tradesman though. I would wait a couple years and pick one up less than 30k.
@DeltaSierra426
@DeltaSierra426 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the same, or maybe they are hauling 6K lbs. but on smaller rolling hills and relatively flat terrain. This testing was just neat to see what happens when this is done. No overheating (although kinda close) or breakdown issue doing it. If nothing else, it shows that there IS a big difference between the V6 and V8, if nothing else for the torque (~265 lb.-ft. vs. 410 lb.-ft.), with the little extra weight of airbags, the beefy V8, and heavier transmission practically entirely off-set and even mostly unimpactful towards fuel economy [in this scenario]).
@jonathanmazzella1247
@jonathanmazzella1247 5 жыл бұрын
@@DeltaSierra426 Completely agree. I think the only thing the real big offset is in used prices. You can pick up a v6 usually 7-10k cheaper than a Hemi (model to model). But your right the hemi vs v6 mpg difference towing, does not make up for the lack of power (in this scenario).
@BassRacerx
@BassRacerx 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but tests like this keep manufacturers honest about how they rate their tow ratings. up until recently truck manufacturers seemed to just make up the tow ratings out of thin air. Clearly 7k pounds was a safe limit for this truck adding 500-1000 more pounds would have been potentially unsafe!
@rocketj7449
@rocketj7449 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Ike Gauntlet video, but you know, seeing a Ford V10 maxed out towing up the Ike would be amazing! Jus saying Andre!
@clarenceboodram1236
@clarenceboodram1236 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 2016 v6 and I’m happy however I take it easy going over the mountains but yes really good for the city
@rodneychaney2809
@rodneychaney2809 2 жыл бұрын
Towed a trailer with a 1960's Willys Wagon and loaded with parts 180 miles. About 6,000 lbs from Richmond VA to Baltimore MD and got 16 mpg average. At 67,000 it is a reliable choice for anybody with "domestic" truck requirements. It rides nice, hauls trash, lumber, furniture, appliances, an occasional camper, and my family.
@warrentrucks09
@warrentrucks09 5 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the V6 even made it with only 269 lbs Ft of torque at sea level. Being a crew cab, 4 wheel drive, and towing 7000 lbs up the Ike? Just making it says something. Honestly I’m blown away by the performance of both trucks. 4.7 mph is impressive.
@larryg2707
@larryg2707 5 жыл бұрын
Come on the V6 was slow, but not 4.7mph slow :)
@rmkscrambler
@rmkscrambler 5 жыл бұрын
The pentastar's biggest secret is the flat torque curve it produces 90% of its peak by 1500 rpm and hold it till 6500 rpm
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 5 жыл бұрын
Almost everyone used to tow with less torque and horsepower than that back in the 80's 🤣. My dad towed our 19' Bigfoot travel trailer with a 305 in a Chevy Malibu.
@kenrobinson1099
@kenrobinson1099 5 жыл бұрын
have one in my Charger and it's amazing considering its displacement. Very pleased with it.
@ExoneratedSins
@ExoneratedSins 5 жыл бұрын
BBC Zaza , 2xxr s2 x5dx
@k.r.v.4219
@k.r.v.4219 5 жыл бұрын
Hello again Andre and Nathan! But the fact the E-Torque Hemi is available in the Tradesmen and still under 48k, especially at certain dealers I’ve seen regular Hemi Tradesmen Crew Cab 4x4, with 3:92 gearing at 40k out the door with all incentives! As far as downhill, of course the bigger engine will have more braking power to use engine vacuum to slow down. So I’ll take mine in a TRI-White Coat Laramie, with the reg Hemi, 3:55 gearing and the Brown/Frost Interior! With the Tow Package and 33 gal gas tank! That I’ve seen on Dealer lots here in Central Florida for the great price of 46k!
@loganholmberg2295
@loganholmberg2295 5 жыл бұрын
If your in a cold weather climate I wouldn't touch Ram's air ride. Broke three times on my Dad last winter. Had to be completely replaced on 2 of those occasions.
@sunj8286
@sunj8286 5 жыл бұрын
same here on my Rebel
@2010challengerRT
@2010challengerRT 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. The Ram air suspension is very problematic in cold weather. Compressors freezing up, blowing fuses, suspension collapsing down on to the bump stops, etc. We see nothing but problems with it in Saskatchewan. A shame, because they ride and handle great when they do work.
@ohioguy4326
@ohioguy4326 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't buy air ride on any vehicle unless it's leased. It always breaks, plenty of old Lincolns driving around with on the ground with broken air suspension.
@nwomoe6713
@nwomoe6713 5 жыл бұрын
Yup lots of problems up here in northern Canada with the ram air suspension that I've seen..I had Firestone bags in my ford and they lasted 1 year max...but not to many things last at -40 for 6 months of the year..even logging trucks are replacing bags none stop
@mobgma
@mobgma 5 жыл бұрын
agreed it is shit
@ur_quainmaster7901
@ur_quainmaster7901 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit give the music a rest.
@OlayerB
@OlayerB 5 жыл бұрын
YES! The videos are good - the music DETRACTS from them. Guys - please!
@mesomemore97
@mesomemore97 2 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!!! GET RID OF IT!!! OR I CANNOT WATCH YOUR VIDEOS!!!
@davemalouin
@davemalouin 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the comparison between the hemi and the 3.0 diesel on this course to see how much advantage there is in purchasing the diesel option. Does it tow better, and will it achieve better mpg?
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more comparisons like this between the premium and work trucks.
@jerseymike47
@jerseymike47 2 ай бұрын
I love that when you hopped into the v6 truck that it was set to the Grateful Dead channel 💙⚡️🥀❤️
@familyherochannel2288
@familyherochannel2288 3 жыл бұрын
Love you Nathan and Andre
@chrishawkesford6900
@chrishawkesford6900 5 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, what would be the difference if you used Cruise Control set at a certain speed while going down hill? Would it automatically down shift to hold a speed so there is no requirement to brake?
@davidrichardson6749
@davidrichardson6749 4 жыл бұрын
Pulling the equivalent of two cars up a mountain with a truck that has a minivan engine in it. I love it. That’s crazy. It’s nice to know you could do it if you had to though! You should test more naturally aspirated v6 trucks for towing. I find it interesting because it’s rare to hear how they perform in half tons. Everybody wants a v8
@MatthewSmith-uf6tr
@MatthewSmith-uf6tr 2 жыл бұрын
Well it’s a truck engine. Been in their fleet for a long time. Great motor.
@gnd111
@gnd111 Жыл бұрын
Not a mini van engine..lol...was in Chrysler 300s and trucks at same time.
@milviodeleon4421
@milviodeleon4421 5 жыл бұрын
The gearing is a major factor when towing. I am surprise you guys didn't make a bigger issue about it.
@02Guffy
@02Guffy 5 жыл бұрын
Que the "$44k for a work truck? Pickup manufacturers have lost their minds" crowd. Good review. The V8 is worth the upgrade... I know I wouldn't want my truck screaming at me all the time.
@02Guffy
@02Guffy 5 жыл бұрын
@ihategooglespooks what would I do without you!
@logdon17
@logdon17 5 жыл бұрын
Yea i was even surprised to hear the word Tradesmen and 44 grand in the same sentence. Years ago tradesmen versions usually started in the $20s.
@LucasLeCompteMusic
@LucasLeCompteMusic 5 жыл бұрын
You can buy a used 2500 with a Cummings for the price of the tradesmen
@tallll70
@tallll70 5 жыл бұрын
nobody is buying these for that, they getting big horns for this cash
@bkranz-1283
@bkranz-1283 5 жыл бұрын
I snatched my 2010 f150 supercrew 4wd v8 for only 35,000 back in fall of 09 and that was a pretty decked out xlt model. And got a 2012 single cab 2wd v8 xl model (a true work truck) for 21,000 out the door brand new and immediately started towing with it from day one. It's sick what they want to charge for a cheaper, less powerful, and desirable truck. I bet even after rebates and all the sales bs I still couldn't get it for what I paid for my nicely optioned 2010.
@amolinari9
@amolinari9 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I’m in the market for the hemi I currently have a v6 manual and it’s so much more fun to drive. Watching this video seeing Andres butt clutching at 6500 rpm with the v6 was hilarious.
@Motomadman43
@Motomadman43 5 жыл бұрын
That V6 probably pulls better than the 5.3,5.4,4.6,5.7s of the early 2000s
@justthisguy1948
@justthisguy1948 3 жыл бұрын
No way
@dirtrider88
@dirtrider88 2 жыл бұрын
idk. those engines were actually truck engines. more torque than hp and making that torque wayyy lower down than these strung out v6s are. these v6s are car engines. that doesnt make for good towing.
@scotturich
@scotturich 5 жыл бұрын
I love my new 2019 RAM; that I can turn the camera while driving to look at my trailer and make sure that everything is good. Love your guys reviews (actually how people use them)
@MOJeepr
@MOJeepr 5 жыл бұрын
Love this side by side test, wish you had made it a 3 way with the Eco Diesel
@crazyhass84
@crazyhass84 5 жыл бұрын
No eco diesel in the 2019!!! Promised but not confirmed for 2020.
@cornelius6304
@cornelius6304 Жыл бұрын
The pentastar v6 is power packed. Great engine
@jmj267
@jmj267 5 жыл бұрын
I think the V6 Tradesman looks awesome and white but I believe the 2.7 Ford was better going uphill by far I sure would like to see that go up the Ike stock trim. I'll look back at the old videos to see if I can catch one
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
The 2.7 was worlds better towing up the Ike, 400 lbs of torque and lighter truck overall. It didn’t have to spin up to 6500 rpms to get its power The 2.7 was designed to be used turbos , not an add on
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 5 жыл бұрын
The V-6 seems perfectly adequate for 95% of users. Most will want the Hemi, but it's nice to know the base engine is more than adequate.
@tacuachandocuh8233
@tacuachandocuh8233 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah i know hundreds of people with pickups and most of them never tow anything
@tinshield
@tinshield 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 and it drives great. If I was towing anything heavy would get a V8 but other than that it’s more than adequate.
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 5 жыл бұрын
@@tacuachandocuh8233 I laugh, because I have towed uhaul 6x12s with nearly every car I've ever owned, including a Sonic blue s60R. I got lots of weird looks, but it was an amazing tow vehicle.
@philtripe
@philtripe 5 жыл бұрын
the way i see it. buy the most economical truck possible and when you have to tow heavy loads, rent! why beat the crap out of your own truck
@rmkscrambler
@rmkscrambler 5 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is the people that will truly work them the hardest will probably end up with the v6 because that's all the dealer has in stock a for base work truck. It's like trying to get one with the off road package for some reason if I want to use the truck off road and to work I have to get heated and cooled leather seats with a TV in the dash. Why don't dealers stock work trucks with work options.
@garysisk3431
@garysisk3431 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, great comparison, but you need to take the background music off of Hemi mode. Its hard to hear what you guys are saying. I own both the Hemi in my 1500 Ram pickup and the v6 in my Heep Grand Cherokee. Both engines are great, and well suited for the application I have them in. But for any kind of long distance towing the Hemi fits the bill much better. Chrysler has really upped their game in the last number of years. Imagine the v6 with turbo's, woooooooooo
@dennisdonovan4646
@dennisdonovan4646 5 жыл бұрын
Have you guys posted the 2019 big 3 Moab video yet?
@motojunkie9675
@motojunkie9675 5 жыл бұрын
Loving the video's but question for you guys. I for one hate seeing all the technology in the dash and what not, my question is would you like to see less tech or more tech in new trucks and cars.
@daviddaniel2198
@daviddaniel2198 3 жыл бұрын
Think I’ll get the V6. I been wanting a truck for doing regular odds and ends at the house. Nice peace of mind and the gas mileage is better then what the Hemi will give me.
@myherosupreme3963
@myherosupreme3963 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m about to trade in my Journey and get the Ram, been reading the differences between the V8 and V6 engines. I’m really impressed with the V6 honestly
@daviddaniel2198
@daviddaniel2198 3 жыл бұрын
@@myherosupreme3963 I purchased a 21 1500 big horn hemi yesterday. I love it!!!
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 2 жыл бұрын
@david Daniel I think Chrysler /FCA made a big mistake by dropping the mid level 4.7 v8 some yrs ago. I have driven dodge trucks for over42 yrs and when looking for a new truck this last yr I looked at what the ram had to offer. Not much. Either a v6 that was underpowered for what I had to tow, or a nearly 400 hp v8 that was excessive. I didn’t want the penalty of a gas guzzler v8, that’s why I sold my ‘98 ram with. 5.9 because of the gas it used when not towing. So I got a ford 2.7 with tow pkg, great mpg’s and will tow 7700 lbs, same as my old dodge
@phabloagr
@phabloagr 5 ай бұрын
Best video ever
@edwardnelson3304
@edwardnelson3304 5 жыл бұрын
Love to see the suspension comparison on the 2500 Cummins Trucks?
@travisf7849
@travisf7849 5 жыл бұрын
Looking for your help fast lane. Thoughts on buying used ram 1500 4x4 crew cab? I'm looking at 2014 to 2016. I drive 80 miles a day. I have a 2006 chevy trailbazer 4x4 now so would like the same mpg or better. I have a small utility trailer and a 24ft pontoon to haul from time to time. I defenty dont want worst mpg. What would be my best option the 3.6 v6 or 5.7 v8 hemi with 8 speed transmission. Thoughts any help or advive would be great!
@philduke4071
@philduke4071 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I tow a tractor on a car hauler trailer a few times a year (6.500 lbs estimated) back and forth about 50 miles to my hunting property. I tow a 18' bass boat (3,000 lbs) about once or twice a week. The rest is highway and city driving. Will I be disappointed with the V6? That's the route I was planning to go...
@Al-jr3vt
@Al-jr3vt 5 жыл бұрын
Good Video. The mild hybrid or e torque is new to Ram and unfortunately underutilized. It uses a 48v system with the battery behind the back seat. With this added voltage, Ram should have all belt driven accessories electric, and attach the e torque electric motor either direct to or with a cogged belt to the crank pully of the engine instead of using the existing serpentine belt which can slip under heavy application. This would allow an increase of torque to be applied by a bigger e torque electric motor allowing better braking assist for the trip down the mountain as well as all primary braking applications. This is how the 48v system regenerates. Also with the electric motor coupled direct to the engine crank, the electric motor can assist in the uphill towing and overall driving application by not having the transmission drop in a lower gear and the engine rpm rising at every incline.
@MichaelBrown-gw8ez
@MichaelBrown-gw8ez 5 жыл бұрын
2019s have progressive springs as the 4th gens should have had all along!
@codybrackett812
@codybrackett812 4 жыл бұрын
Question.. will a 3.6/5.7 E tourq equipped truck perform better in a 0-60 that a regular 3.6/5.7?? & Is there a set speed the E tourq "stops adding tourq" ????🤔🤔
@ChrisThedudenurse
@ChrisThedudenurse 5 жыл бұрын
Any way we could see some used trucks. I love watching the show especially the Ike gauntlet, but my 2003 f150 with the 4.6 is far from the f150’s with the ecoboost and coyote. I’d like to see roughly how my older truck would do.
@nucl3arfamily906
@nucl3arfamily906 5 жыл бұрын
You can get a Limited with the 6 passenger configuration. I love that as well.
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 5 жыл бұрын
All limited's come with a center console. 5 people seating. No split bench
@jarimaelta4888
@jarimaelta4888 5 жыл бұрын
Where have you seen that?
@brianaustin6184
@brianaustin6184 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly if I was in the market and only looking at hauling 7,000lbs I’d would go for the 3.5 v6 tradesmen, cost $22,000 less,seats 6 people you can get tow mirrors on it,and maxed out on weight and putting forth a lot more effort still got the same mpg as the v8,if you were to max out that v8 you would not be getting 4.mpg,so I’ll take the ruffly minute n half slower time and keep the extra 22,000 in my pocket lol,just my perspective though.good job on the video y’all!
@MikeNaples
@MikeNaples 5 жыл бұрын
That same Tradesman with a 5.7 Hemi will cost you an extra $1,450.
@1165slugman
@1165slugman 4 жыл бұрын
My Ford E250 work van struggled up that hill from silverthorne to the Eisenhower tunnel without a trailer. Semi's go like 30mph up it lol
@danielnation9123
@danielnation9123 3 жыл бұрын
Great review!!
@jamesklinkhammer7539
@jamesklinkhammer7539 3 жыл бұрын
Driving a 21 ram big horn , no center console (6 feet 6) hemi etorque .... sold 11 ford ecoboost supercrew in 3 day's. Ram trucks rated #1 by consumers reports, Ram trucks really made improvements, interior ,ride ,8 speed German transmission technology
@BKXX
@BKXX 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Glad I got the Hemi.
@codysmith9813
@codysmith9813 Жыл бұрын
You can also get this v6 with the optional 3.55 rear gears instead of the standard 3.21.
@justinw.2376
@justinw.2376 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna see all the base models now of the big three with this same test
@GDBStudios
@GDBStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Tradesman with a V8 is the way to go then?
@leaz1104
@leaz1104 3 жыл бұрын
How do you engage the tow haul? On Drive or parking?
@donovannotmyname7306
@donovannotmyname7306 5 жыл бұрын
Have they done a review on the 2.7l v6?
@nastang87xx
@nastang87xx 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like Nathan had super high expectations and every time they were met (which seemed to be constantly) his subtle reactions were basically saying "well, isn't that a sonovabitch..."
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