That time everyone bullied Nintendo over a Metroid game

This is the story of how the "worst" Metroid game received record-level backlash, while also helping to save the franchise it was an insult to. Presenting: The Federation Force Fiasco
yeah it wasn't that bad tbh we had fun playing it. it's just not metroid.

[@NintendoHero]

I think that if this kind of Metroid spin off released right now, people would be a lot more open and willing to give it a chance. But since it was the first new Metroid game in so long, it was super disappointing. Looking back, Federation Force feels like that one phrase "the night is darkest just before the dawn." Because right around the corner was a total renaissance for Metroid, we just didn't know it yet

[@wombatpandaa9774]

Doesn't help that it looks like butt in the trailers. Somehow it looks so much worse in its reveal trailer than in the gameplay footage.

[@LetterboxTuxedo]

​@@wombatpandaa9774cause it's in 3D on a 2d video screen. That was always the problem selling 3DS and Wii U games. How do you show graphics to people if they are distorted cause of limited video distribution?

[@OmniversalOrca]

​@@LetterboxTuxedothe WiiU had a lot of potential, but damn, the marketing around it 💔 but as the main comment, "the night is darkest...", and now we got the Switch, both portable and home console and with some of the best WiiU games ported and amazing exclusives. A beautiful catalog, indeed.

[@BloodRedFox2008]

My feelings as well. Or announce Samus Returns first and then announce Federation Force right after so this way Metroid fans could go "well hey at least we know a proper 2D game is coming next year, maybe this multiplayer spinoff can be a decent time waster while we wait" (kinda like how Hunters on the DS was a little something that held fans over in the wait between Prime 2 and 3).

[@leoistari]

No

[@kruegerpoolthe13th]

Y’know it’s funny in hindsight Federation Force is the most: “oh shit we need to quickly make something to keep the series alive” type of game

[@Ckoz2829]

It’s like when the rights are about to expire and they need to make a new game just to retain them but they don’t want to put any effort into it.

[@kruegerpoolthe13th]

@@Ckoz2829 in this case they just didn’t want to reveal what they were working on because it would’ve taken a while to come out

[@Ckoz2829]

@@kruegerpoolthe13th Right. But it definitely would have been better if they waited for Samus Returns. We already went 5 years without a Metroid game, what would another 2 have done to us?

[@kruegerpoolthe13th]

@@Ckoz2829 good point but go figure Nintendo make the weirdest decisions about these things

[@David-dz1cb]

Yup! I'd hav eprobably enjoyed it more if it weren't a shooter on a system utterly unsuited for one

[@realkingofantarctica]

It will always be weird to me how from 2015-2016 it felt like Nintendo was doing everything in their power to tank their revenue, releasing games that even they knew weren't necessary or up to standard. Maybe it was all a plot to boost profits for remaining stakeholders once the NX finally hit.

[@CheddarBayBaby]

Nintendo has said that they typically watch a console for 2 years before deciding to start development on the next one. I think the timeline matches pretty well for them to have ditched Wii U by 2015 and shift development to Switch. Even a great game released in 2015 couldn’t have made money on a system with only 10 million users.

[@internetguy7319]

​@@CheddarBayBabyMario Odyssey started dev in 2014, so it was even sooner lol

[@spider_sf]

The joke at the end with the gamefreak logo is gold.

[@netweed09]

Well, literally yes Gamefreak are rolling in Gold? !

[@xProErax]

That's scary to think people are now referencing stuff that I can remember clearly back in 2015 and treating it as if it was an era long ago.

[@TriforceZard]

The best thing about the Federation Force was it introduced me to my first Metroid game… AM2R. It was a free game so I had nothing to lose. Was hooked ever since and finished Super, Samus Returns, and Dread. God I loved Dread.

[@pigeonmanepic]

AM2R ❤

[@insomosisytmusicandsports4393]

You should play Metroid Prime

[@ChrisMS0815]

That game was amazing I played it when I first got my PC, I still like Nintendo's remake of Metroid 2(Samus Returns) more but that was almost as good. I also recommend you play Metroid Prime if you havn't, that remaster they did for Switch is well done.

[@netweed09]

@@insomosisytmusicandsports4393 ​ Ikr? Those other games are _nothing_ next to Prime (aside from Dread's only good bits of course - those amazing 3D cutscenes when it looks like We're getting some juicy Metroid greatness - but then goes back to flat side-scrolling boredom!)

[@insomosisytmusicandsports4393]

@@netweed09 Dread was definetly awesome. Along with the other 2d games, the samus Returns remake, Super Metroid... etc. but the 3 Prime games designed the world we now think of as Metroid in 3D. they managed to pull off a 2d franchise and transition the atmosphere of metroid in 3D. Quite difficult for a game to successfully make that transition

[@Luigi64]

2010 konami "hi." gets me every time

[@vicviper2005]

It’s kinda depressing that e3 2015 the e3 that promoted some of the company’s worst games was iwatas last appearance

[@sonicrunn3r895]

What completely baffles me is that ALL of this could've been avoided had they just mentioned or eluded that Samus Returns was in development, considering it apparently started in 2015. Like, if they went “we're not ready to share news on our next Metroid title yet, however we have something to show you in the meantime” I feel like Federation Force would’ve at least been easier to swallow. But hey, shadow revealing Samus Returns in 2017 Treehouse Live is totally better lol

[@eiriseven]

After seeing Federation Force, and knowing that Nintendo never accepted the criticisms of Other M, that probably wouldn't have saved the game either, as there would have been too many questions about the future of the series. They'd have to delay the game til Samus Returns was ready, and even then, who is going to buy that game over SR?

[@JacobNintendoNerd99]

They did allude that Prime 4 was in development in 2015 and even specifically say that Federation Force was made to be a prelude to the next Metroid game. There was literally an entire interview about it that was covered across multiple websites.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@eiriseven I think Nintendo wanted to create a follow up to Metroid Prime Hunters???

[@AICW]

@@JacobNintendoNerd99 News flash, dude, 99.99% of Nintendo players don't go that deep into the woods to find those kinds of interviews, and even then you'd have to exercise some major brainpower to realize they were talking about Prime 4.

[@BaxterAndLunala]

​@@orangeslash1667Gosh, I hope not. I personally believe Hunters deserves to be forgotten.

[@fernie5686]

I like to think federation force is what the galactic federation wants everyone in the galaxy to think about them, hence the chibi artstyle, but metroid shows us what they actually are, a morally gray space agency that wiped out an entire species.

[@mobius1504]

who did they wipe out the space pirates??

[@fernie5686]

@@mobius1504 the metroids, they were disliked but its still genocide

[@orangeslash1667]

@@fernie5686 Federation Force felt like a Metroid appetizer. Meaning because Metroid games sell ok, it takes while for Nintendo to make a good one. The other reason is that Yoshio Sakamoto needed the help of a third party to make it, and he found one with MercurySteam.

[@AICW]

@@mobius1504 Yes. The intro text of Federation Force literally says the Federation plans to completely eradicate the Space Pirates. Imagine if George W. Bush had said after 9/11 the U.S. military would completely eradicate all Arabs... holy shit.

[@Jesse12489]

Samus did that. Federation hired her because yes but she refused to kill the last metroid. Why do I bother explaining Metroid to kids.

[@CalebHorowitz]

My favorite thing about this video is remembering just how uniquely cursed that year's E3 was? Like sure Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam annoyed Paper Mario fans, but it also literally killed the Mario and Luigi series and the company that made them. Star Fox Zero torpedoed the Star Fox franchise further into obscurity. Triforce Heroes is the worst-rated Zelda game and was doomed to irrelevance by launching in the build-up to Breath of the Wild, which totally rewrote what it meant to be a Zelda game. Fire Emblem Fates is the most divisive Fire Emblem and 1/3 of the game is now inaccessible to fans thanks to the eshop closure. It's almost comical how badly some of these games misfired.

[@Ckoz2829]

Don’t forget about Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival, a game made specifically to sell Amiibo and one that nobody asked for and Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, a completely phoned in, by the numbers Tennis game made up almost entirely of reused assets, an over reliance on a bog standard gimmick, and about as much soul as an EA game. 2015 was a baaaaaad time to be a Nintendo fan. I have no idea what was going on over there, but in hindsight it just felt like they were biding their time until the Switch was ready.

[@CalebHorowitz]

@@Ckoz2829 Lol yeah even more garbage! They were deep into making Breath of the Wild at that point and according to wikipedia had been working on Mario Odyssey for 2 years. I'm sure at that point they knew that that would be a switch exclusive. They really had to have been biding their time for the Switch like you said.

[@AICW]

@@Ckoz2829 "I have no idea what was going on over there" Satoru Iwata died in 2015, the Wii U was an unquestionable gigantic failure, and the company was falling apart at the seams trying to keep things together. That's what happened.

[@antimatter3084]

Binding Blade and Engage are arguably more divisive than Fates and I seen Conquest frequently praised so calling it the low point of the series when stuff like og Mystery of the Emblem exist(I'm doing a marathon of FE where I play every game starting Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light to Engage, at Blazing Sword currently) is some bullshit lmao.

[@novustalks7525]

Paper jam was one of the best mario and luigi games

[@qualityart4004]

I remember being really excited for this game in middle school, I was probably also the only person who was ever excited for this game before release. Never got to play the campaign with friends unfortunately, federation force should've had downloadplay for the campaign considering how multiplayer centric is was.

[@TheRTDZ]

Federation Force’s biggest problem was it came out when everybody was asking “How is Nintendo going to fix the problems caused by Other M?” Federation Force’s answer appeared to be “replace cool strong woman with 4 generic space marine dudebros.” And that’s not an acceptable answer for a series where having a female protagonist is what makes it unique.

[@orangeslash1667]

Federation Force felt like a Metroid appetizer. Meaning because Metroid games sell ok, it takes while for Nintendo to make a good one. The other reason is that Yoshio Sakamoto needed the help of a third party to make it, and he found one with MercurySteam.

[@stale_cheeto]

Honestly you should give us a list for the background music cuz these are some banging tunes

[@KiTheMC]

I literally skipped class to watch the 2015 E3 and it happened to be the worst E3 in Nintendo history.

[@oscarzxn4067]

Also is worth noting the reveal trailer is just terrible, legit one of the worst I have ever seen, they don't really specify much about the game and it's gameplay at all, to the point that many actually thought the game was purely a football spin off and the first 30 seconds were just like an introduction to it.

[@ParmMannREBORN]

Gosh it's true, people really do consider the Micro sacred

[@Donny-Jensen]

To quote scott the woz, "You can still find positives in hell." 11:54

[@ChaoticHoly]

The other thing to recall is that Federation Farce was the very next game _after_ *"Other M"* - a game that did *everything wrong as a game* but then included a soft-lock "feature" if the player attempted to explore...in a Metroid game. Which was also a game that cemented the Federation as a "bag of dicks"...and now we get to play as them! 🎉Yay.🎉

[@Xoulrath_]

Other M is a highly underrated and misunderstood game. The entire point was that all of a sudden you weren't an intergalactic super-powered bouty hunter. You were at the mercy of the environment instead of controlling it. The Metroid atmosphere was there in spades. Was it the best Metrois game ever? No, of course not. But it wasn't the worst either. Could Other M have been better? Yes, but that question can be asked and answered the same for even the pinnacle of gaming. At the end of the day, Other M felt like a Metroid game in some ways, regardless of what any individual thought of it.

[@novustalks7525]

Fusion was the game that made the federation evil.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@Xoulrath_ Dude, what? ''Being at the mercy of the environment'' is something that applies to literally every other Metroid game. In each one, Samus is weak and underpowered when the game starts, and slowly grows more powerful as you go on until enemies that once presented a scary threat can be beaten with ease.

[@Xoulrath_]

@@legrandliseurtri7495 dude, what? Did you play the game? Because I did. The awkward control scheme and angles of Other M took away most of Samus usual powers to navigate the environment. Or did you never hear of things like sequence breaking? Yeah, Samus was NEVER at the mercy of the environment, dude.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@Xoulrath_ Being unable to shoot more than five centimeter in front of you is being in control of the environment? Having to run from one protective bubble to another because of the toxic atmosphere in a twisted dimension that you don't know anything about is being in control of the environment? Trying to deal with a parasite that constantly sabotages the space ship you're on is being in control of the environment? Those are three examples from three games not named Other M. Metroid games were always about making the player feel vulnerable and outmatched. Also, sequence breaking, that thing that you couldn't do in Fusion or any of the prime games without using completely unintended glitches, is really an argument you want to use for this?

[@lunchtreyy]

9:34 Ok but at least kirby's epic yarn is like, ON THEME FOR THE FUCKING SERIES.

[@theterribleclaw4285]

I hated Federation Force for its art style, it was like Nintendo tried to pull a Wind Waker on Metroid so that the franchise could be kid friendly like all of their other Games and it went sideways.

[@Ferodra]

Federation Force was the first and only time in my entire life i was actually angry about a game announcement. Such a long time without a proper Metroid title and then just.. this. This hurt so bad

[@DecidiousGreens]

hey pikmin, mario vs donkey kong, donkey kong country tropical freeze(switch), fzero99

[@Ferodra]

@@DecidiousGreensLuckily i never was into those anyway 😂

[@KBroly]

Downplaying Other M, it's critical and commercial failure, is missing half of the point here. Without that, the series doesn't have that drought, and the backlash potentially is avoided; but then again Federation Force probably doesn't get made in that scenario. Giving Metroid fans a whiff of that 'Chibi Robo Zip Lash' potential was also disastrous since it was fresh in the minds of Nintendo fans. Nintendo trotting out Bill Trinen in January of 2016 to say 'we think fans were confused by this' was not making the situation better, either. After this, the game got no mentions anymore, quietly released a month AFTER AM2R, and was last seen in a landfill in Nevada.

[@novustalks7525]

The drought had nothing to do with other m. It was all because of the wii u failure

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@novustalks7525 It had nothing to do with a game that sold badly by Metroid standards, got bad reviews everywhere and countless rant videos? Uh...

[@novustalks7525]

@@legrandliseurtri7495 no it doesn't. Even Nintendo said as much. Almost all the games have sold badly

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@novustalks7525 ''badly by Metroid standards''

[@novustalks7525]

@@legrandliseurtri7495 badly full stop

[@dotdotmod]

6:43 I now have the image of Demi-Reggie punching the press demons featuring Iwata from the Nintendo Presentation Series beside him

[@kazooke]

You're videos get better and better each time you upload! Keep up the great work Voyan!

[@bryanjedi8242]

If Nintendo made a sequel that had similar graphics to whatever Prime 4 is doing and had more in-depth missions it could do rather well. Look at games like Deeprock Galactic. It could work something like that.

[@SwellStuff483]

Looking back, the hate towards this game was absolutely insane. It was a harmless little spinoff that just came out at a bad time.

[@MartKart8]

I have Metroid Prime Federation Force, game play wasn't bad at all, the game does take place before Metroid Prime 4 , and it hints at events that will happen, such as the Metroid that is taken.

[@Zoigun]

At this point I’m certain that Metroid Prime 4 will be a launch title for the new Switch in 2024.

[@RegalPixelKing]

I never thought that this would be a bad game when it was announced. But it's the fact that they announced a spin-off that did not represent Metroid in any way after years of neglecting the franchise. Like if they released a mainline Metroid game along side Federation Force then the blow back would not have been so bad. Even if the game itself was not bad, Nintendo and that game does deserve the hate that they got. It was like a slap in the face to the fans after ignoring them for several years.

[@petergriscom3431]

They really should hire someone capable of reading the room, but you know Nintendo wouldn't listen to them. And I don't mean that in the "Haha Nintendo so fun and quirky" way, I'm talking about the stubborn willfully ignorant Nintendo, the one that tells you to pay money for their laggy outdated servers, and to rebuy their classic games ripped from the very ROM sites they DMCA'd.

[@thecozyintrovert]

I was on the Animal Crossing side of things and we were losing our minds too. Every year I waited for an AC announcement at E3 for it to never be announced, but gave us the amiibo festival trash instead. Man, that was a bad era to be a Nintendo fan.

[@pangoldie]

Forgot this game was even a thing lmao

[@netweed09]

Which game again?

[@RawrX32009]

​@@netweed09I forgot

[@netweed09]

@@RawrX32009 😕😁

[@gogobrasil7185]

This will serve as my Earthbound copium. Tysm

[@noel_996]

I say they did kinda deserve the hate it did. Nintendo was out of their minds during the Wii U/ 3DS era. They released games so rushed and gimmicky feeling just to earn a quick buck it really hurt being a fan at the time. Not saying the switch era is any more better.

[@internetguy7319]

The Switch era is, in fact, better

[@sleepdeep305]

@@internetguy7319 Seriously wtf? We didn't even get a single ZELDA on the Wii U until BOTW was released simultaneously on Wii U and switch. We didn't get a single fucking Metroid on Wii U, something that's only ever happened to the N64 previously. The ever patient Starfox fans got a massive kick in the balls with zero and even Mario couldn't please that generation. The ONLY game series that wasn't completely screwed over was Kid Icarus of all fucking things, and even then, it had to completely distance itself from it's previous incarnations just to stand a chance.

[@mobius1504]

Federation forces could have had so much potential if they didnt try to sell it as a weird child art style game and actually did it has a hardcore metroid FPS shooter where you play with actual metroid graphics and environments but like had the action of say the First part of Prime 3, Ive always wanted to play as a Federation Marine and if they made it into that it would have actually been so fun. Idk who had the idea to come out with that art style and take a big crap on the franchise. Also when you started doing the intro theme when you first mentioned Federation Forces it had me cracking up so hard

[@concept8192]

Yeah, like why not have a Prime Hunters art style but with higher fidelity?

[@mobius1504]

@concept8192 I agree I had alot of fun on prime hunters back in the day and even tho the graphics are a little bad on the DS Id still take it over whatever they did to Fed forces lol

[@orangeslash1667]

@@concept8192 unlike prime, hunters, Federation force was made by next level games. The same company that gave us Mario strikers, which explains the cartoon look.

[@firestarex3544]

"If I had a nickel for every time people bullied Nintendo over a Metroid game, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice."

[@onepizzaau]

shoutout to wigger wednesday

[@TrueBlueMajikDewd]

*That time Nintendo bullied Metroid fans with a whacked spin-off after Other M.

[@DETahaX]

I thought you were going to mention the take down of AM2R shortly before the reveal of MPFF as another reason for hating it.... For me, that was the biggest reason I didn't like MPFF, because it was a slap to the fans who are enjoying themselves over an ACTUAL Metroid game... But then Samus Returns came out and everything was explained.. But, yeah, I haven't tried the game yet, but I also hear it's good if you look past the Metroid title.

[@Fannintendociccio1]

But epic yarn is really good tho, kirby fits so well with it...

[@michaellane5381]

The other 2 main problems: 3DS was NOT A METROID fan's console, nor was it an FPS fan's console, these games were buy-ins after the Wii's had also failed at both markets excluding the other Metroid trilogy and Conduit Duology.

[@andersongray9820]

If I were Nintendo, I would have delayed the release a bit so it and announce Samus Returns a bit earlier, so they get announced during the same direct and fans know that more of what they love is coming soon.

[@Kurizu204]

I still don't get why they didn't just do Hunters 2. The Federation is just so bland and the least interesting aspect of the series.

[@elheber]

Nintendo could have made it a stealth spin-off, without a clear indication that it was Metroid in the marketing, and only have its connection revealed to players late into the story campaign. If they had done this, instead of blow back, players would have gone nuts with glee.

[@GameAW1]

I wouldn't even say this isn't Metroid since it obviously was trying to build up the world and lore outside of Samus rather than keeping the entire franchise basically all about her and her alone. Its just a different flavor of Metroid Prime game... that came out when fans went five years with no Metroid game, and that last Metroid game left the sourest taste in their mouths. Next to nobody was willing to give it a chance due to that. Nowadays people are looking back and being Thanos about it, realizing they were FAR too harsh on Fed Force.

[@edmundgg2010]

what does xenoblade chronicles have in common with kirby’s epic yarn and starfox adventures? it wasn’t from a pre existing well known franchise

[@stale_cheeto]

Idk how well known the series was before Xenoblade came along, but Xenoblade has connections to Xenogears and Xenosaga

[@poobykidds]

thanks for the shoutout on number 2 of the intro

[@terminallyunfunny9728]

Now that it’s been 8 years and all of the anger has died down… I still don’t get why this was on the 3DS. The Switch was just around the corner and would not only have more processing power but also split-screen co-op. I think this game would have been slightly better received if you only need extra controllers to play with friends and not up to 4 3DS consoles each with their own copies of the game.

[@ivanniothemannio]

"partial custody of a whole genre" lol nice

[@davidperry4013]

After Metroid prime 4 beyond there should be a 2D Metroid game featuring Dark Samus as the main antagonist.

[@TimDespairBear11]

As somebody who was pissed off when this game was revealed, it was 100% just a timing thing. Nobody would care if the game came out now because we have dread and prime 4. It was just aggravating because we didn’t have a normal game.

[@andrewdowell6474]

I bought this game on launch day. It's a shame people weren't willing to give it a chance because it was a lot of fun. There were a decent amount of people playing online as well. I'd pick it back up if people were looking to get some online play going again.

[@CheddarBayBaby]

I’d do a mission. I was there on launch day too. As the video points out, it’s a tough game to play alone. There was just too much bad blood around it for people to give it a chance.

[@Pichuscute]

I've tried to play it. The game was atrociously bad, honestly. The movement speed alone is probably the worst in FPS history... and it's in a game with time limitations, lmao.

[@theotherjared9824]

All nintendo fans are united when it counts, for better or for worse.

[@PlasticCogLiquid]

It's not Metroid, so they shouldn't have called it Metroid. Just like Metal Gear Survive. Not a bad game but it's not Metal Gear in any way and it riles us fans up when they use the name.

[@orangeslash1667]

Federation Force felt like a Metroid appetizer. Meaning because Metroid games sell ok, it takes while for Nintendo to make a good one. The other reason is that Yoshio Sakamoto needed the help of a third party to make it, and he found one with MercurySteam.

[@chronicchronicling-jb8zz]

I really hope this game gets a second chance someday. The poor timing, questionable art style and awful announcement trailer were pretty much what did it in. It came at an especially dark time for me because I had recently been in a car accident and really could have used some sort of pick-me-up. I was right there fuming with everyone else June of 2015, but out of desperation and a bit of coping I still bought it launch day. I'm honestly glad I did, controls and combat felt like GameCube Prime to a T.

[@CluelessYIIKer]

I didn’t know it was a full on spin-off, I only played the free soccer version lol

[@Singmen64]

The game itself might be as good as it is, but the marketing strat was one of the dumbest things they ever did. Not just naming it Metroid... also putting prime in it was the top of the cake

[@chillbizz74]

We loved Metroid Prime's Trilogy and even that obscure DS spinoff which was impressive which had us excited for the 3DS Prime game, but it was a huge disappointment..

[@chillbizz74]

@PBJA89 I guess it isn't a spinoff since it has been confirmed canon

[@Guarrow]

I've actually finished the game. There was only like 1 or 2 missions that I couldn't do solo and somehow, there were like 2 other guys on the matchmaking willing to play. The game was alright. It was kinda fun to pass time but it's not even that good, and the 3DS is SUCH a limitation that's painful. The artstyle, the fact that we are playing in mechs instead of just ... soldiers, just so monsters can appear smaller and have human chibis. It would just have been better on the Switch(2). Even if it was announced alongside MP4 and Samus Returns and released on the 3DS, it probably would have flopped (tho Samus Returns sold pretty well considering it's a 3DS game released in 2017), the backlash wouldn't have been the same I'm pretty sure

[@Bladezer3000]

9:30, actually this was always meant to be a metroid game. Head devs was pretty clear about that in interviews.

[@ralph7015]

If they release this as a game just called federation force I could have seen it being a Nintendo mainstay

[@Expt629]

3:24 this goes hard! 🤣

[@VictoryReviews]

Well performed and written video! Keep it up 🎉

[@Ckoz2829]

As a huge Metroid fan I can’t tell you how disappointed I was to read that Federation Force was a co-op focused shooter instead of a traditional Metroid game. The art style wasn’t great, but the focus on multiplayer and the soccer game just turned me off of the whole thing. Needless to say I was pretty disgusted for the rest of the day. But the announcement of Samus Returns and Prime 4 more than made up for that travesty. I’m glad Metroid is not just back on track, but is insanely popular today too! Looking forward to Prime 4 and maybe whatever else they got cooking in the meantime. Hell, if they try to do Federation Force again, I might give it the time of day. But probably not. They should just leave that spin off series in the dust.

[@novustalks7525]

It was a great game

[@robertkenny1201]

​@novustalks7525 Wrong.

[@novustalks7525]

@@robertkenny1201 No

[@Ckoz2829]

@PBJA89 I’m a little more forgiving of Other M these days because at least that was an actual, single player game with a (lousy) story. Federation Force will always be that awkward co-op FPS on the damn 3DS of all systems and no amount of time or new Metroid games will change that. There are no redeeming factors for me.

[@BrosciuttoJZ]

Looking forward to you covering triforce heroes

[@David-dz1cb]

It was certainly a stopgap, a weird little nugget of an idea that became an entire game, and released at the worst possible time. Really, they should've announced Samus Returns at the same time, taken some of the sting out. Ah well, least Metroid has games again! *Cries in F-Zero*

[@ChrisMS0815]

The ones that didn't hate it were the frauds who know everyone wanted Metroid so they tried to be excited thinking thats how everyone else was reacting until the mass hate came and they wondered why because they had no knowledge of the series.

[@Thechozochampion]

LOL the Samus theme got me dead 😂💀

[@thatbulbmin]

For me 5 Mario Kart 4 Metroid 3 GameCube 2 Nintendo land 1 Pikmin

[@Expt629]

0:59 music?

[@cutecharacterpower]

This is a really good video

[@netweed09]

I mean, Dread selling 3 million was nice but Pokémon Scarlet & Violet did sell well over 20 million and still going strong with DLC.

[@ty_sylicus]

I really enjoyed Fire Emblem Fates and Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE

[@0tterhead]

Somehow saw this in my sub box and my brain read voyan as nerrel

[@theblowupdollsmusic]

What if they had made this a star fox themed game. I bet it would've done better.

[@Bempes3477]

You gotta love how the backlash against Federation Force for “not being a real Metroid game” is seen as perfectly valid criticism, but when anyone points out that we haven’t had an actual Zelda game in over a decade _that’s_ going too far.

[@jumentoqueanima]

Lmao. I remember this.

[@HerobrineHunt5r]

Happy Wiggler Wednesday

[@M64bros]

And people say "everything was beautiful and pretty during the 3ds and the Wii U era" and as an owner of both consoles I highly disagree...

[@3dsfan2002]

Why!? your say the 3ds and wii u had nothing but BAD games?!

[@M64bros]

@@3dsfan2002 Not all of them were terrible at least, Also don't worry I still play on my 3DS and my Wii U still to this day along with my switch. It really bothers me that some people pretend everything was beautiful and pretty during that era. However, not just that era but you can say the exact same thing for the OG wii, GameCube era and the previous eras too. Not every era is beautiful and pretty, But we still enjoy them regardless of their flaws.

[@edward18517]

You better believe they got "bullied" (as you put it). And Samus Returns doing poorly would not have taken sidescrolling Metroid down forever -_- it may have taken more time for it to become a more frequently done thing again, but it's ridiculous to assume that a title doing bad would put a permanent stop to that part of the series for the years, decades, and centuries to come.

[@robertkenny1201]

Last I checked Samus Returns sold pretty good for 3DS released at the tail end of its lifespan.

[@edward18517]

@@robertkenny1201 should've been made for the Switch.

[@Expt629]

And it did well enough to make Dread happen, and look how much praise that game has.

[@Lemuel928]

Metroid Prime Federation Force did alright as a multiplayer online team.

[@Lemuel928]

Plus we’re owning Samus’s Power Suit as a amiibo exclusive for bounty hunting missions.

[@Lemuel928]

Plus the zero suit for soccer sports..

[@liammcnicholas918]

It’s me, I’m everyone.

[@MikoMango23]

The only good part of that E3 was Xenoblade X and honestly that's sad looking back

[@orangeslash1667]

I dislike Xenoblade X.

[@MikoMango23]

@@orangeslash1667 Nice bait lmfao

[@orangeslash1667]

@@MikoMango23 I'm I the only one that thinks the game uncanny character designs 😑😑?? Xenoblade 2 is a massive improvement simply because the characters actually have expression and emotion.

[@TheNintendoWizrad]

Metroid other m was a good game, tokyo mirage sessions one of the best battle systems ive played. Some great stuff

[@Ckoz2829]

Now that we got the benefit of hindsight, Other M wasn’t as bad as people were claiming it to be. It still wasn’t that great either. As a Metroid game, is was pretty depressing. But basing it on it’s own merits as an action game, it felt no better than your run of the mill PS2 action platformer. It was definitely not something I would expect from Nintendo, especially at the time they were kicking ass with the Wii.

[@Perplexum]

And that's why I had more fun with TMS than with Persona 5 for example. I wish they would revisit this game again, but that probably won't be happening. I'm surprised that they even ported it to the Switch.

[@KBroly]

No, Other M is a terrible game and a disgrace to the franchise and Nintendo. Federation Force was salt on a 5-year open wound.

[@mn9137]

Other M has THAT Ridley scene. A blatant character assassination of Samus Aran. The fact that Metroid Dread confirms it's makes me hate Other M more than I already did.

[@islandboy9381]

​@@KBrolyrelax it was mediocre

[@3dsfan2002]

Dark Moon was bad!? I though is was a masterpiece!!!!

[@3dsfan2002]

@PBJA89 no one cares,much like most 3ds games that get trashed like smash 4, Pokemon xy, SM and Mario kart 7 because these games are goat

[@Random1567]

Fire emblem fates is one the most popular titles in the series, was only recently beat by three houses

[@LuffyMcDuck]

Got this game cheap and played trough the campaign twice in co-op. A 6/10 game. Only played it a second time since we got new players and had fun chatting while playing this.

[@Diwasho]

"Leave alone the multimillion dollar company"

[@Geneolgia]

I played Federation Force a few years ago with a couple of friends who aren't that much into Metroid, and we all had a great time, this game is surprisingly decent. The art style was the weakest point and the story was meh, but the mission variety and planning before each one was pretty fun. I will die on this hill but the hate it got was mostly because of such horrible timing, and in my eyes the disdain was overblown even. I can assure that if this game was revealed with a little teaser for Metroid Samus Returns, heck, just a logo or text saying _"Metroid 2 Remake Coming Soon"_ at the end it wouldn't have been loathed and instead it would be considered a harmless spin-off much like Metroid Prime Pinball or a smaller scale title like Hunters. I remember that the idea of a side-story with the Galactic Federation made the rounds on hardcore Metroid communities back when before this game and is frustrating that the only chance crashed and burned so badly because of Nintendo's incompetence to make a good reveal after the fiasco that was Other M.

[@Buckybarnes1098]

Dude the game was fun though ngl, the timing could have been better, however, I remember spending a lot of my childhood playing this game. I love it. Hate on me if you want

[@zaneheaston8254]

To quote Rabbidluigi, it's not the fans fault because you can't force them to be excited for what they don't want at that time, & its not Federation Force's fault for trying to be something different, it's Nintendo's fault for commissioning a new Multiplayer game at a time when the general fanbase was still upset over Other M Also the game was marketed horribly, Nintendo first showed it as a generic game called Blast Ball, then they revealed it was a new Metroid game, in turn, it looked like a generic, multiplayer focused, first person shooter

[@solbrando]

i need a playlist of the music used in this video. please i feel like i hear some smt but i can’t tell :c

[@exoticgueslet3389]

3:46 Dude that’s normal for Kirby

[@MatoroMahri]

I want this game on Switch. With the eshop closed and sales being abysmal from the boycott, this game is in some significant preservation danger. I was right there with everyone else raging over this when it was announced but against my better judgment I picked it up and honestly I'll take it over Other M any day of the week. Federation Force is a good game that was timed awfully. I feel like if they announced and released it alongside Samus Returns the feedback would have been quite a bit different.

[@Pichuscute]

Uh, I played Federation Force. It's fucking awful. Easily the slowest first person movement in a video game I'm aware of, which is made way worse by mechanics that actively punish you for being slow, like glitchy ball shooting mechanics (literally had a ball glitch through a floor on like my second level), time-limited levels, etc. It's ugly and stupid as fuck and has absolutely no atmosphere, two of the main Metroid selling points just gone. The music sucks ass, too, which is even worse. I'm not sure where the "fun" we supposedly missed was, but it wasn't in the design, gameplay, art, sound, atmosphere, or anything else video games do, so...

[@oscar-uj7le]

2:57 what a disrespect for other m

[@worldestructor]

this game is not that bad tbh, and playing with friends or online was really nice, however it was really bold from nintendo to offer this and nothing else about metroid and expect good reception, i guess the point of my comment is to say that this game is good and with good timing and in another plataform, with a copule of redigns a remake of this could turn out to be a great game, the idea behind this game is really interesting

[@Real_Deadphilium]

I think federation force was fine it was kinda fun tbh not traditional but that won't stop me from hating metroid

[@ImaFnT-Rex]

3:22 i was looking around for Kazooie :p