That Time the Portuguese Brought an Inquisition to India | Goan History

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@miguelsomething
@miguelsomething 4 жыл бұрын
It's also worth pointing out that Afonso d'Albuquerque made laws for the integration of Portuguese in Goan society, most times against the church. He gave financial incentives to Goan women who married Portuguese men and applied strict punishment to any Portuguese who hurt a Goan. This because, although bloodthirsty, Albuquerque was pragmatic to know he had to do nation building and diplomacy with the little manpower he had. It was when he left for voyages that the priests terrorized the population, Portuguese included.
@mylesjude233
@mylesjude233 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about that pragmatic side to Portugeuse rule, speaking of Afonso, do you think there should be made a video made talking more about his contributions to the Portugeuse Empure/ do you know of any other famed European adventurers who ventured to India.
@miguelsomething
@miguelsomething 4 жыл бұрын
@@mylesjude233 Filipe de Brito e Nicote is famous for making his own pirate kingdom, the duality of Francisco de Almeida's sense of duty and Afonso de Albuquerque's wrath, Lourenço de Almeida (Francisco de Almeida's son) and his death in the Battle of Chaul (which led Francisco to say "F it" and took his entire fleet to conquer Diu in 1509), Duarte Pacheco Pereira winning a siege with 450 soldiers against 70,000 Cochinise in the Battle of Cochin, the Battle of Mallacca which was already covered here, André Pessoa killing various samurai in swordfight in the Madre de Deus incident, Pêro da Covilhã's journey to Goa (considered the Portuguese Marco Polo). Off the top of my mind, those are a few.
@miguelsomething
@miguelsomething 4 жыл бұрын
It's important to understand the trader and explorer class was in constant conflict with the noble and religious class. Albuquerque taught his men Swiss tactics of phalanx and arquebus to preserve manpower, while nobles often charged to battle with no discipline cause they believed they were blessed by God or would be martyrs anyway. King João II, the one prior to Manuel, had Jews and minorities in his court as mathematicians, advisors, etc. The church was the thorn in the flesh that interfered with the trading, tolerance and cosmopolitanism.
@mylesjude233
@mylesjude233 4 жыл бұрын
@@miguelsomething Nice picks, in terms of European adventurers worth researching, I would recommend the likes of Claude monet ( help with the building of lucknow), as well as Begum Samru, who was a influential ruler of sardhana, who was seen as a frequent ally to the failing mughal empire from British assaults. Last question: Outside of vindaloo, do you know of other food exchanges the portugeuse did with India.
@miguelsomething
@miguelsomething 4 жыл бұрын
@@mylesjude233 The chili pepper was brought to India by the Portuguese from Brazil and Mexico. Without the Portuguese, spicy curry wouldn't have been invented. In Japan, Tempura comes from Têmpora which was the food Portuguese missionaries ate during Lent.
@Anonymous_30
@Anonymous_30 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Hindu living in Karnataka but every year we visit Goa as our family temple is still situated there. I am greatly in debt of my ancestors for making this decision of preserving our culture and Sanskriti.
@j1966t1969
@j1966t1969 3 жыл бұрын
The inquisition took place in Europe during a dark period. The religious leaders of that time did not deserve to be ahead of any religion. Haven't Hindus and Muslims been killing each other too? Are these religions terrible? Are all Muslims and Hindus bad?!!! The good will also last in the future. Everything that has a human hand, has good and evil... Portugal never intended to conquer India. Goa, Daman and Diu were needed to control the spice routes. The Portuguese married Indian women (mixed). And the British in India?! Goa was an important city, being considered the "ROME of the East" (one of the five patriarchates in the world is that of Goa). The Portuguese ended social differences (there were no castes). The Portuguese were in India until 1961 (the British until 1947). The Portuguese Empire in India is one of the states in India with the highest GDP per capita. 30% of the population is Catholic and many are proud that their culture is a mixture of Portuguese and Indian. The population has Portuguese names. Houses influenced by Portuguese architecture. The Inquisition was an error of the men who ruled the Catholic Church at that time. Once finished, there were no problems between religions. In Portuguese museums we find many artistic objects of Indo-Portuguese art. Our 1st minister is a Portuguese of Goan origin. ART revistaaguavai.blogspot.com/2015/04/arte-luso-oriental-e-indo-portuguesa.html kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2PXiGl7fKZsd7s Feast of St. John in India kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipy5Zn2mq5h3a7M In Portugal, there is also the feast of São João (people hit the heads of others with plastic hammers, jump over bonfires and go dancing). Many dating starts that day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iWhq2Pg5eHgck In the song kzbin.info/www/bejne/emW6naeLrctnr6s Goa Folklor with a lot of Portuguese kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS5aHd6mc98fck Goan food has many Portuguese influences and also the opposite. Spices matter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmKxlHiemsRgrLs 1st Minister António Costa (visit to India and relatives in Goa) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnK0eHiIqq57a7s This year Portugal led the European Union, having organized the EU-India Summit (strengthening friendship and economic relations). You can pass subtitles in English. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2zqn5soamrhtU Influences form both ways. From Portugal to India and from India to Portugal. A hug.
@sanilbhonsale6375
@sanilbhonsale6375 4 ай бұрын
Greatful? Ur ancestors left Goa.
@vizsla8579
@vizsla8579 2 ай бұрын
India will become Catholic again and the devil worship that is Hinduism will be stamped out from humanity
@preetish9798
@preetish9798 4 жыл бұрын
I come from a Goan Hindu family, and my ancestors escaped Goa thankfully.
@allahlesboslu2_9
@allahlesboslu2_9 4 жыл бұрын
Mine too they came to ratnagiri and finally moved out to new Zealand
@vivacristorey4728
@vivacristorey4728 4 жыл бұрын
@@allahlesboslu2_9 are you in New Zealand?
@Turplemaple6318
@Turplemaple6318 4 жыл бұрын
Finally found someone from my community randomly on internet, nice
@antoniosaldanha3294
@antoniosaldanha3294 4 жыл бұрын
Kamats r still there in Goa ....Many have served in Portuguese regime....And they speak fluent Portuguese too ...
@Turplemaple6318
@Turplemaple6318 4 жыл бұрын
@@antoniosaldanha3294 yup only few came here in Karnataka and Kerala
@adithyahk
@adithyahk 3 жыл бұрын
There is an African community called siddis, they were African captured slaves that escaped from Portuguese sailors that ran into the dense western ghat jungles and are now settled in yallapura in uttara kannada, karnataka.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! Check out my Malik Ambar video for more on that community :)
@jonsnow1055
@jonsnow1055 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They represented India in the Olympics as well. Really great athletes,but that was discontinued due to racial profiling.
@vishwanathiari
@vishwanathiari 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonsnow1055 really? Lol
@aneeshprasobhan
@aneeshprasobhan 3 жыл бұрын
@@vishwanathiari what was the "Lol" for ? Sorry, i don't underatand
@anneeq008
@anneeq008 3 жыл бұрын
They're in Karachi; Pakistan as well. Particularly in an area of it called Lyari
@RobinKumar-kh7ok
@RobinKumar-kh7ok 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this was a thing. India has such a violent and tragic history especially when looking at the colonialism era. Great video as always!
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robin! It was truly a tragic moment in history
@angrymanwithsillymoustasche
@angrymanwithsillymoustasche 3 жыл бұрын
India was ruined by Ashoka's useless policy of non violence.
@srinathd1096
@srinathd1096 3 жыл бұрын
@@angrymanwithsillymoustasche That was 1800 years before this.
@akashsinha099
@akashsinha099 3 жыл бұрын
@@srinathd1096 civilizations don't fall in a day
@vageeshasr3713
@vageeshasr3713 3 жыл бұрын
@@angrymanwithsillymoustasche that's true , Ashoka without Chanakya is nothing , it's actually Chanakya he is master mind .
@prakashrao8420
@prakashrao8420 4 жыл бұрын
Many such things like this, were hidden from history books in India
@prakashrao8420
@prakashrao8420 4 жыл бұрын
@Nyet Matchbox Sadly in India it was hidden by Indians only, after independence so called liberals occupied academia in our country and wrote history which would suit their narrative
@prakashrao8420
@prakashrao8420 4 жыл бұрын
@Nyet Matchbox True my friend
@gazibizi9504
@gazibizi9504 4 жыл бұрын
Hidden? Not every historical detail is important. This history to most Indians except for Goa is insignificant
@satyamkaskar1198
@satyamkaskar1198 4 жыл бұрын
Goa's culture is amazing. More than just beaches and bikinis as many people think. Here you will find Christian and Hindus celebrating each others' festivals with equal pomp and gesture. If there's feast in the town , you will find Hindu homes serving amazing meals to visitors. Here you will find Christian folks visiting " Devchar's " shrines ( devchars are village dieties) to pray for their protection. That's the beauty of Goa. Where you will find such a place. If you know such a place please do comment me:)
@ЭдгарРожков
@ЭдгарРожков 4 жыл бұрын
Not hidden, it's just that you people are not interested in reading outside your delhi-centric history syllabus.
@NagarjunBollam
@NagarjunBollam 4 жыл бұрын
You'd find many Brahmin houses bearing Goan surnames in the Agraharas around the Shiva temple in Gokarna (Karnataka). I guess they have been the descendants of Goan brahmins who escape Goa during the persecution.
@LeftistUprising
@LeftistUprising 4 жыл бұрын
what surnames do they have? I've met Indian Christians with Hindu sounding first names and European last names, like Sushil Thomas.
@chetri100
@chetri100 4 жыл бұрын
Yes lots of people fled Goa for Karnataka,even today they visit their old temples in Goa
@LeftistUprising
@LeftistUprising 4 жыл бұрын
@Rahul My friend is from India, and he said that "Desai" is a Gurujatti name for Brahmans and not Goans.
@venkatkamath3603
@venkatkamath3603 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@snaik9141
@snaik9141 3 жыл бұрын
@Rahul all Goan Hindus r not Saraswat Brahmins u idiot we r majority Kshatriya Bhandari and Maratha and Gaud too Saraswats r just 1 community and there r Maratha Dessais too
@siddharthyadavchekkala2845
@siddharthyadavchekkala2845 4 жыл бұрын
I find it extremely sad that most Indians themselves don't know anything about this episode of Indian history. Thank you for talking about controversial topics. Indians need open discourse on these things.
@Suryapoosarla
@Suryapoosarla 4 жыл бұрын
Because these things are not included in text books because there is an informal deal with colonial British or atleast that's the rumour.. rumour has basis since indian history is written by Marxist leaning people they don't have any particular love towards Catholicism..so rumour might be true and it is understandable also.. British wanted religious colonial past to be hidden so that Christian minorities won't be question in those terms.
@allahlesboslu2_9
@allahlesboslu2_9 4 жыл бұрын
Because it were Hindus who went through all the pain
@Abc-z9b
@Abc-z9b 4 жыл бұрын
I only got to know about this last year, these types of episodes are not added to history books
@francablou7978
@francablou7978 4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Mororn! When molten lead was poured onto the ears of Sudras for hearing Vedas??
@ratiranjanbehera7852
@ratiranjanbehera7852 4 жыл бұрын
@@francablou7978 , hey ( v a t ic an) (s l a v e) mind your language. Coming from a religion who's hand is full of blood in past, now laughing on others.
@reubenmammen8065
@reubenmammen8065 3 жыл бұрын
The Portuguese had some kind of influence in Kerala (i think the cochin dynasty).Upon reaching kerala they were suprised to find an already existing ANCIENT christian community called the Nasranis (St Thomas Christians).The Portuguese called the Nasranis "heretics" and burned our historicals records ,books and literature and forced the nasranis to adopt Catholism version of Christianity.The Portuguese caused the nasranis to divide themselves into various factions( jacobites,orthodox,catholics etc).To this day those divisions exist and there are 8 divisions within the Nasranis today.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! Thanks for providing additional information 🙏🏽
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 3 жыл бұрын
The Portuguese had a major influence on some communities in Kerala. Their army attacked Jews and forcibly converted Nestorian ("Syrian") Christians to Roman Catholicism. After the army left the ex-Nestorians had no priests, so they applied for help to the Patriarchs in the Middle East and most of the "Syrian Orthodox" ended up as Jacobites: which was for Catholics the opposite heresy to the Nestorians. The Portuguese took away the Syriac books and manuscripts for "correction." Many were probably destroyed, either in India or after archiving in Portugal. So a lot of history has been lost.
@rebeccaanderson5626
@rebeccaanderson5626 3 жыл бұрын
@@faithlesshound5621 nestorian Christianity still exist
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccaanderson5626 Sure, but Nestorians are outnumbered now by Jacobites in India.
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if there is still scope for researching that side of Indian history in the archives of Portugal and the Vatican, even without the Inquisition's records.
@sniperfox5546
@sniperfox5546 4 жыл бұрын
My ancestors were goan Hindus And I am grateful that they escaped this hell and safely came Into Karnataka
@rashmiprabhurash_me_foreve3252
@rashmiprabhurash_me_foreve3252 3 жыл бұрын
They left Goa because of Tipu Sultan's invasion. That is why not only Hindus but even Goan Christians left with them to settle in Karnataka. Today, the Konkani population in Karnataka consists both of Goan Hindus and Christians.
@mdsabahuddin8251
@mdsabahuddin8251 3 жыл бұрын
They settled in bijapur sultanate not karnataka.
@MikeCGuitar
@MikeCGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, your present government is making life hell for all non Hindus! Congrats on revenge
@sniperfox5546
@sniperfox5546 3 жыл бұрын
@@MikeCGuitar karma
@reagan_pereira_
@reagan_pereira_ 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I am Konkani Catholic. My ancestors were converted to catholicism but went to Mangalore.
@vernekarakshay
@vernekarakshay 3 жыл бұрын
My ancestors escaped Goa too. We still speak Konkani and carry Goan Surnames like mine is "Vernekar" which means a person from "Verna" (which is a town in Goa)
@rebeccaanderson5626
@rebeccaanderson5626 3 жыл бұрын
The Portuguese were religious fanatics at that period of time . It was the darkest around in the Christian history of Europe . The Portuguese not only punished the Hindus/ Muslims but also the native Saint Thomas Christian community that existed since 2000 years in Kerala .
@saraqostahterra4548
@saraqostahterra4548 3 жыл бұрын
Yh. I'm a bit mixed in heritage. But i know my ancestors escaped from Iberia to North-Morocco for the same reasons. It's crazy.
@rebeccaanderson5626
@rebeccaanderson5626 3 жыл бұрын
@@saraqostahterra4548 well the past was a pretty bad time
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccaanderson5626 The Europeans Didn’t want any non Christians in their territories so that they didn’t take over and start persecuting the catholic The Portuguese didn’t like Jews because they ordered for his death They didn’t like Muslims because they ruled their lands and made them pay tax for being Christian They didn’t like Hindus because they worshiped statues and a lotta gods Eitherway the inquisition is not a very bright part of catholic history
@rebeccaanderson5626
@rebeccaanderson5626 3 жыл бұрын
@@popefrancis8153 first of all you are technically bit correct but also wrong . The office of Inquisition was run by the secular authorities of the state and not by the church . All the execution that was done to the heretics was done by the state authorities not by the church. But at the same time it shows us the zeal of religious fanaticism which is amazing current Catholic Church lacks fanaticism . And yes I am proud of the crusades and of The Holy Inquisition .
@DeccanPS
@DeccanPS 4 жыл бұрын
Let me tell you one thing, this is a great video. Just for the fact that such important details were never known to us Indians even after 73 years of Independence from Colonial rule! This is really shocking and heart breaking. Even Voltaire commented on it and we never knew of it!!! How can anyone be so cruel? I live in state neighboring Goa, with similar culture but we vaguely know about this horrendous cruelty! What is more bad? Doing such crimes or hiding such crimes from popular memory? Thank you again for such videos.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, and I appreciate your thoughts! I hope more people learn about this and understand how important it is to avoid such cruelty and hatred 🙏🏽
@mvalthegamer2450
@mvalthegamer2450 3 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass Maybe because quite a few temples were rebuilt and the legacy thoroughly erased? I mean there are temples in goa today
@prashanthkamath7437
@prashanthkamath7437 3 жыл бұрын
@@mvalthegamer2450 There are very few temples in old Conquista areas of Goa and most of them were built after the liberation of Goa from the Portuguese. Our ancestral temple, which was located on the river island of Divar was destroyed by the Portuguese and was reestablished in Sonde kings area of Khandola (Ganapathi). The Ganapati Temple was located on the island of Goa at the hilltop. Presently there is a cemetery attached to Lady of piety church, where the Temple used to be. Recently a local catholic had donated a chunk of land near this church and a small temple dedicated to Ganesh has bee built there.
@senakaweeraratna741
@senakaweeraratna741 3 жыл бұрын
Repression of Buddhism in Sri Lanka by the Portuguese (1505 - 1658) By Senaka Weeraratna www.vgweb.org/unethicalconversion/port_rep.htm CONTENTS Preface The first phase of western colonialism Crown patronage of missionary activity in the East The dark age in Sri Lanka's history Methods employed for conversion The introduction of Christianity to Sri Lanka Four Missionary Orders Deceitful strategies in proselytizing Tamil Hindus Mass conversions Destruction and plunder of Buddhist Temples Missionaries accompanied Portuguese expeditionary forces Execution of Buddhist Monks Inducements to convert Bequeath of the Kingdom of Kotte to the Portuguese Crown Conversion of Prince Vijaya Pala Claims for compensation Conclusion Footnotes Bibliography Appendix
@jns447
@jns447 3 жыл бұрын
Well you should study a bit more and not rely only on youtube videos. Though there is no lie here, they failed to mention that in Goa, before the portuguese arrived, the widowers were burned alive when their husband died and this was stopped by the portuguese. I'm not justifying the inquisition, but you have to put it in perspective for the time. Although it seems horrendous for today's eyes, societies back then were brutal. In addition to that, when Goa was integrated in the Indian state, it's population was completely integrated in Portuguese society and wanted to remain as such. That's why most of them fled from Goa to other portuguese colonies. There was no independence for Goa, there was a violent conquest of Goa by India. And during that conquest the indians massacred the goese population. Those crimes perpretated by India were much more recent and go untold and hidden from popular memory, during a period where life in Goa was good. You don't care about those, hein? Also, what do you think life was on the sultanate around Goa? Better than life on Goa during portuguese rule? Please
@jaytemkar8077
@jaytemkar8077 4 жыл бұрын
Fanaticism of Portuguese was the sole reason why their power didn't grow in India. Indian rulers always battled with Portuguese and even raided goa many times to punish Portuguese. Comparatively British were far more liberal and that's the reason they were successful in India.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, and the Dutch also took a more open and liberal approach, which is why they were more successful than the Portuguese!
@कश्परैना
@कश्परैना 3 жыл бұрын
@@francablou7978 fake
@SanthoshAllenki
@SanthoshAllenki 3 жыл бұрын
@@francablou7978 There is no scripture of authority I repeat NO SCRIPTURE OF AUTHORITY in hinduism. You cannot quote a line from a book and judge hinduism.
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 3 жыл бұрын
@@SanthoshAllenki There may be no authoritative scripture in Hinduism, but there are certainly authoritarian Hindus. They have been on the rampage since the fascists came to power.
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 3 жыл бұрын
The British East India Company was aware that missionaries could cause trouble so they kept an eye on their activities. However there was constant pressure in Britain to let them off the leash.
@xijinping1690
@xijinping1690 4 жыл бұрын
We're literally doing this stuff right now at this moment, its very common here in China
@harshverdhansaxena6025
@harshverdhansaxena6025 4 жыл бұрын
Dude is doing a good job in making people aware of the things happening in China😂
@udhayakumarMN
@udhayakumarMN 3 жыл бұрын
@AB - 10JC 682531 Louise Arbour SS For reason....
@raviraj123
@raviraj123 3 жыл бұрын
Part of practices are still under progress even in India with different name called Conversion. It spread everywhere in India esp South India and North East India.
@puneetmishra4726
@puneetmishra4726 3 жыл бұрын
It would be shame if your communist state would collapse due to such policies
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice 3 жыл бұрын
FUNNY RIGHT? HOW ISLAM IS SEEN AS THE WORST UNREAL RELIGION
@tobinbtm
@tobinbtm 3 жыл бұрын
Should have included the Kerala Syrian Christians and their encounters with the Portuguese. The Portuguese found two native Christian communities in India the St. Thomas Christians and the Knanaya, known together as the Kerala Syrian Christians or Nazrani. There’s a plethora of sources on the interactions between them and the Portuguese. The Portuguese would later persecute these native Christians.
@snaik9141
@snaik9141 3 жыл бұрын
Why did they persecute them?
@tobinbtm
@tobinbtm 3 жыл бұрын
@@snaik9141 They couldn’t agree with the Nasrani following the Syriac liturgical tradition, nor their Hindu inculurated identity.
@j1966t1969
@j1966t1969 3 жыл бұрын
The inquisition took place in Europe during a dark period. The religious leaders of that time did not deserve to be ahead of any religion. The good will also last in the future. Everything that has a human hand, has good and evil... Portugal never intended to conquer India. Goa, Daman and Diu were needed to control the spice routes. The Portuguese married Indian women (mixed). And the British in India?! Goa was an important city, being considered the "ROME of the East" (one of the five patriarchates in the world is that of Goa). The Portuguese ended social differences (there were no castes). The Portuguese were in India until 1961 (the British until 1947). The Portuguese Empire in India is one of the states in India with the highest GDP per capita. 30% of the population is Catholic and many are proud that their culture is a mixture of Portuguese and Indian. The population has Portuguese names. Houses influenced by Portuguese architecture. The Inquisition was an error of the men who ruled the Catholic Church at that time. Once finished, there were no problems between religions. In Portuguese museums we find many artistic objects of Indo-Portuguese art. Our 1st minister is a Portuguese of Goan origin. ART revistaaguavai.blogspot.com/2015/04/arte-luso-oriental-e-indo-portuguesa.html kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2PXiGl7fKZsd7s Feast of St. John in India kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipy5Zn2mq5h3a7M In Portugal, there is also the feast of São João (people hit the heads of others with plastic hammers, jump over bonfires and go dancing). Many dating starts that day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iWhq2Pg5eHgck In the song kzbin.info/www/bejne/emW6naeLrctnr6s Goa Folklor with a lot of Portuguese kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS5aHd6mc98fck Goan food has many Portuguese influences and also the opposite. Spices matter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmKxlHiemsRgrLs 1st Minister António Costa (visit to India and relatives in Goa) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnK0eHiIqq57a7s This year Portugal led the European Union, having organized the EU-India Summit (strengthening friendship and economic relations). You can pass subtitles in English. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2zqn5soamrhtU Influences form both ways. From Portugal to India and from India to Portugal. A hug.
@kuldeeprana1908
@kuldeeprana1908 Жыл бұрын
​@@j1966t1969still truth will not change that Portuguese people did inquisition to native Indians
@JohnDoe19991
@JohnDoe19991 11 ай бұрын
@@snaik9141 Because these gandu European Christians believe Jesus was a White man with blue eyes and blond hair. They cant accept the fact that they are not the first christians and the fact that Christianity is a religion of the east. Its my way or the highway
@ishaanchaudhry7275
@ishaanchaudhry7275 3 жыл бұрын
"As soon as I arrived in any heathen village..when all are baptized I order all the temples of their false gods to be destroyed and all the idols to be broken to pieces. I can give you no idea of the joy I feel in seeing this done" - Francis Xavier Christians in India consider him as "Saint". Major educational institutions of Christians are naned after him
@SangitA
@SangitA 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why every one in the past just played along instead of revolting when these things were done!
@ishankmahale5393
@ishankmahale5393 3 жыл бұрын
@@SangitA Today, the petrol price in Goa hit 100, this is bloody extreme. Yet I see no revolts around.
@SangitA
@SangitA 3 жыл бұрын
@@ishankmahale5393 you are plain stupeed. Prices won't come down just because u revolt. First know why the prices are high.
@ishankmahale5393
@ishankmahale5393 3 жыл бұрын
@@SangitA And the prices are high because?
@ishaanchaudhry7275
@ishaanchaudhry7275 3 жыл бұрын
@@ishankmahale5393 You're comparing mass exterminations, cultural genocide of Hindus to petrol prices? Are you dense?
@arieleduardo2492
@arieleduardo2492 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect how brutal it was and now I understand why the Portuguese Empire didn't expand in India as the British Empire. I found the video very interesting, I always questioned the existence of Jews in India, especially in the south. Hugs from Brazil
@j1966t1969
@j1966t1969 Жыл бұрын
A população portuguesa era apenas de 1 milhão. Os ingleses eram 10 milhões. Os portugueses ao serem os 1º a chegarem tiveram que lutar com os turcos e hindus para se impor. Eles não queriam perder o monopólio do comércio das especiarias (ver batalha de Diu em 1509). Portugal tinha Goa, Damão e Diu (que é a zona mais rica da Índia e onde, graças aos portugueses não há o sistemas de castas) e também tinham Bombaim (atual Mombai). Com o casamente de uma rainha portuguesa com o rei inglês, o dote de casamento passava pela entrega de Bombaim aos ingleses. Bombaim era a chave para a conquista da Índia. Esta , a Rainha Catarina de Bragança, foi quem levou o famoso chá para Inglaterra e a moda do (chá das cinco). O condado de Queens em Nova York é em sua homenagem . pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombaim_sob_dom%C3%ADnio_portugu%C3%AAs O Brasil era muito mais apetecível que a Índia, para além de ser muito pouco povoado. Os ingleses tiveram que manter sob domínio uma população numerosa. E o Brasil foi uma excelente escolha. O açúcar era importante para a Europa e chegava a um preço muito elevado. Também a questão do café e do ouro foram importantes.
@sanyoggupta8211
@sanyoggupta8211 Жыл бұрын
The British Empire was even more cruel than the Portugese empire
@hishamsalim4908
@hishamsalim4908 Жыл бұрын
​@@sanyoggupta8211 not at all Portuguese are the fine example of cruality...... Wherever they go made the people slaves
@varunkhugshal9049
@varunkhugshal9049 Жыл бұрын
​@@sanyoggupta8211no it was not more brutal than purtugese, British were very tactful and didn't interfere in local culture with this much brutality, purtugese were straight up ISIS comparable.
@diogorodrigues747
@diogorodrigues747 Жыл бұрын
​​@@varunkhugshal9049Actually not. The British literally made a genocide in India, did you forget that?
@walterwhite8229
@walterwhite8229 4 жыл бұрын
Idk if anyone knows this... But there was another common torture practice, non-Christians were tied to a metal pole with their hands cut and left in the sun without any provisions. There are still many poles like that present! But luckily they have lost their use.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
That is quite disturbing! Sad how much human effort has been dedicated to causing pain. Thanks for the additional info, Noob the Dood!
@555Sagar
@555Sagar 4 жыл бұрын
One is in Old Goa under the fly over bridge. It is called 'HATHKATRO KHAMB'
@snaik9141
@snaik9141 3 жыл бұрын
@@555Sagar yes
@yv2889
@yv2889 3 жыл бұрын
@@555Sagar आणि दुसरो हातकापो खाम्बो cemetery of saint Assissi ह्याच्या कोर्टयार्डा भितर असा. 15.502228,73.910406 या जाग्याचेर वाचून पळय। काँग्रेस राजवटीत खरो इतिहास लिपवून दवरील्लो असा। गालियो दिता तितक्यो कमी असा ह्यांका। अनंत केरबा प्रायोळकर हाणी बरयलो GOAN INQUISITION ग्रँथ मुद्दाम वाचात आणि वाचूक दियात। www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=archive.org/details/GoaInquisitionAnantKakbaPriolkar_201806&ved=2ahUKEwiun9HP9tvuAhXczDgGHSlpARAQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1_kQ5vf17BxQyqWx8X4sz7
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
Is there proof of this practice being used
@mrp5764
@mrp5764 3 жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable the man who brought the inquisition to goa is being revered as a saint and his remains are still there for people to see... its also a major tourist site in goa. the 400-year-old Bom Jesus church still exists with his remains.
@Real_Gigachaddi
@Real_Gigachaddi 3 жыл бұрын
@山モム丂モレ according to catholic Church pope is infallible (so is church).. then apologizing is actually refute their religion.
@mervincrasto6867
@mervincrasto6867 2 жыл бұрын
@Weasel i dont think so
@dogecoin6080
@dogecoin6080 2 жыл бұрын
St Francis Xavier's request for inquisition was not accepted and it started after his death. What he intended it to be and what it turned into were unlikely . Hindus in goa also celebrate his feast
@Kathakathan11
@Kathakathan11 2 жыл бұрын
@@dogecoin6080 when they will know more about the truth they won’t celebrate, also, they might be just pretending
@senakaweeraratna741
@senakaweeraratna741 2 жыл бұрын
The so called remains of Francis Xavier exhibited in Goa belong to a Sinhalese Buddhist monk from Sri Lanka. His name is Ven. Thotagamuwe Sri Rahula Thero The Catholic Church refuses a request for a DNA test to determine the authenticity of the remains as that of Francis Xavier.
@ameyb9241
@ameyb9241 3 жыл бұрын
Fact: When the Portuguese discovered the magnificent Elephants caves located near Mumbai, instead of preserving, they used the idols and walls for target practice with their new guns and destroyed hundreds of idols which were more than 1000 years old.
@sergiomorais4906
@sergiomorais4906 3 жыл бұрын
source?
@itr8247
@itr8247 3 жыл бұрын
@ꅏꍟꍏꌚꍟ꒒ sorry but I dont support reconstruction. If it was remade, people would claim that the temples were never destroyed and catholics are peaceful.
@itr8247
@itr8247 3 жыл бұрын
@ꅏꍟꍏꌚꍟ꒒ Look at Gyanpavi mosque and how some people deny that a temple ever existed there.... people will 100% whitewash the crimes. Also government would just demolish and rebuild instead of reconstructing by mixing old with new.
@cg8397
@cg8397 3 жыл бұрын
The monuments and caves were already desecrated during the Sultanate rule, according to the Persian inscription on a door that leads to the grand cave.
@pulz1191
@pulz1191 3 жыл бұрын
XAVIER AND THE REST OF THEM WAS GIVEN SAINTHOOD FOR THEIR "GOOD WORK". IRONICALLY XAVIER IS STILL REGARDED AS A GOOD BY GOAN CHRISTIANS.... BECAUSE THE CHURCH HAS MADE HIM A SAINT... ALSO THEIR IS A FAMOUS ART COLLEGE IN MUMBAI IN THE NAME OF "SAINT XAVIER".
@TheMohammadDanish
@TheMohammadDanish 3 жыл бұрын
Hindus have been oppresssed a lot in our own country. Many such instances have been hidden from our history books. it's that awkward moment when we are learning about our own history from a foreigner. Glad you talked about it.
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
He’s actually Indian And the video isn’t very credible
@TheMohammadDanish
@TheMohammadDanish 3 жыл бұрын
@@popefrancis8153 our history books aren't either.
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMohammadDanish very true Usually most history books have things missing or have things extremely exaggerated
@j1966t1969
@j1966t1969 3 жыл бұрын
The inquisition took place in Europe during a dark period. The religious leaders of that time did not deserve to be ahead of any religion. Haven't Hindus and Muslims been killing each other too? Are these religions terrible? Are all Muslims and Hindus bad?!!! The good will also last in the future. Everything that has a human hand, has good and evil... Portugal never intended to conquer India. Goa, Daman and Diu were needed to control the spice routes. The Portuguese married Indian women (mixed). And the British in India?! Goa was an important city, being considered the "ROME of the East" (one of the five patriarchates in the world is that of Goa). The Portuguese ended social differences (there were no castes). The Portuguese were in India until 1961 (the British until 1947). The Portuguese Empire in India is one of the states in India with the highest GDP per capita. 30% of the population is Catholic and many are proud that their culture is a mixture of Portuguese and Indian. The population has Portuguese names. Houses influenced by Portuguese architecture. The Inquisition was an error of the men who ruled the Catholic Church at that time. Once finished, there were no problems between religions. In Portuguese museums we find many artistic objects of Indo-Portuguese art. Our 1st minister is a Portuguese of Goan origin. ART revistaaguavai.blogspot.com/2015/04/arte-luso-oriental-e-indo-portuguesa.html kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2PXiGl7fKZsd7s Feast of St. John in India kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipy5Zn2mq5h3a7M In Portugal, there is also the feast of São João (people hit the heads of others with plastic hammers, jump over bonfires and go dancing). Many dating starts that day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iWhq2Pg5eHgck In the song kzbin.info/www/bejne/emW6naeLrctnr6s Goa Folklor with a lot of Portuguese kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS5aHd6mc98fck Goan food has many Portuguese influences and also the opposite. Spices matter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmKxlHiemsRgrLs 1st Minister António Costa (visit to India and relatives in Goa) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnK0eHiIqq57a7s This year Portugal led the European Union, having organized the EU-India Summit (strengthening friendship and economic relations). You can pass subtitles in English. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2zqn5soamrhtU Influences form both ways. From Portugal to India and from India to Portugal. A hug.
@upadhyayrathiraj1518
@upadhyayrathiraj1518 3 жыл бұрын
@@j1966t1969 You cannot claim that the Hindus killed others. They killed Muslims because they were invaded by them. But why did the Portuguese kill Hindus?
@warrcoww6717
@warrcoww6717 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I’ve never even heard of this event, and I consider myself fairly well versed on Portuguese history. Thanks man, great video and a hidden gem of a channel, I’ll be subscribed from now on.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words - glad to have you on-board!
@jfarinhote
@jfarinhote 3 жыл бұрын
@Rahul Do indians acknowledge theirs?
@Rabidanti
@Rabidanti 3 жыл бұрын
@Rahul in the beginning of the 20th century Germany also committed another Genocide, in Southern Africa (Namibia) But ofc they don't recognise it. And nobody really knows about it nowadays too. They only recognise the ones doing against europeans.
@SangitA
@SangitA 3 жыл бұрын
@@jfarinhote what did the indians do to you? Made you eat their biryaani or butter chicken?
@SangitA
@SangitA 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rabidanti I watched video on that.. never on mainstream news or media..
@kriptoniteXD
@kriptoniteXD 2 жыл бұрын
As a portuguese I wasn't aware of this historical incident! Thank you for sharing it!
@Mojo-vu4hr
@Mojo-vu4hr Жыл бұрын
its horrible the education ur. given in all colonial nations
@eee9034
@eee9034 Жыл бұрын
You shoud be proud of how your middleeast religion is supreme at killing others/us and destroying temples , just like those old portuguese used to feel proud
@kriptoniteXD
@kriptoniteXD Жыл бұрын
@@eee9034 I'm not proud at all! But if it makes you feel better my generation was born during a Liberal Democracy period. So we have nothing to do with this shameful period that extended till 74. Colonialism is long gone and now it's time for Democracy and Liberaliam to thrive. The next step is to acknowledge the wickedness and cruelty that we were responsible for.
@grajiv1979
@grajiv1979 Жыл бұрын
@@kriptoniteXD I hear you but people in India still feel the wound created by colonisation. Among all colonists not including Mughals, Portuguese were the most Brutal, Brits were the most cunning and have done deep rooted damage and destruction. If Portuguese invaders were aggressive brits were passive aggressive responsible for Innumerable Famines and deaths (Each Famine runs into several million deaths)
@solomonmathi4860
@solomonmathi4860 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering such topics which are not covered .... Hope we learn from the mistakes of our ancestors! My friend's ancestors migrated from Goa to Maharashtra due to this.
@prajaktapramod9
@prajaktapramod9 4 жыл бұрын
Ty solo
@solomonmathi4860
@solomonmathi4860 4 жыл бұрын
@@prajaktapramod9 😊
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting about your friend's family! And thanks Solomon, glad you enjoyed the video!
@solomonmathi4860
@solomonmathi4860 4 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass Your Welcome Tarun! Keep covering such not so well known topics!😁😁
@portugallusitanocelta7120
@portugallusitanocelta7120 3 жыл бұрын
Shush
@Abhishek-sr2pu
@Abhishek-sr2pu 4 жыл бұрын
Make a video on the Gajapati dyanasty or eastern Ganga dyanasty or Kalinga or paika rebellion. It's time that people know about odia history as it's mostly ignored because we are dirt poor now.
@Abhishek-sr2pu
@Abhishek-sr2pu 4 жыл бұрын
@Nyet Matchbox I don't know but as far as I know many people who have internet know about marathas, even southern history is now well known and ahom dyanasty is alo pretty famous. How many video are there about history of odisha. You will find history summery of india without any mention of any odia kingdom outside of Kalinga that's even just for some seconds. And yes history or anyother subject about a region depends on the political power of that region. That's why Chinese history was not even known in the west before and even now indian history is not well Known and that's why European and American history is focused everywhere because these region political and economical power is huge.
@Abhishek-sr2pu
@Abhishek-sr2pu 4 жыл бұрын
@Nyet Matchbox economic is a kinda of power. The USA and Eu have political power because of their economy.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be covering them eventually, no worries!
@dwarasamudra8889
@dwarasamudra8889 4 жыл бұрын
@@Abhishek-sr2pu Bengali history is pretty ignored too. I doubt anybody knows about the Great Palas and the Great Bengal Sultanate. Two of Bengal's richest empires which were also some of the richest in the world.
@Abhishek-sr2pu
@Abhishek-sr2pu 3 жыл бұрын
@@dwarasamudra8889 I doubt that many know about pala beacuse of kannujj triangle and bengal sultanate thanks to battle of palassey.
@anastasiesasmr9805
@anastasiesasmr9805 3 жыл бұрын
There are 3 most darkest things in the universe.... 1.The singularity of a black hole. 2.Vantablack (The darkest substance on earth ever known) 3.The pages of european and american history.
@portugallusitanocelta7120
@portugallusitanocelta7120 3 жыл бұрын
And middle eastern and north African, and asian, anyways 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
@noone7692
@noone7692 3 жыл бұрын
The pages of all human history
@jamesa9362
@jamesa9362 3 жыл бұрын
Literally every nation and every people have blood on their hands
@Thanatar13
@Thanatar13 3 жыл бұрын
@@portugallusitanocelta7120 Nah. When did Asians or Africans colonize and near-completely genocide an entire continent? Where did they practice industrialized chattel slavery? What non-European culture, civilization, or broad grouping subjugated the rest of the world in pretty much its entirety to terror and exploitation? European and (white) American history since Columbus has been a trail of corpses and plunder spanning around the globe many times over.
@cg8397
@cg8397 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thanatar13 Mongols
@SidMallya
@SidMallya Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks, I can definitely relate to this! My ancestors (the GSBs) left everything they had in Goa and settled near Mangalore. This was to escape persecution and preserve their language, culture and religion. We still visit our Kuldev (clan-deity) currently in Marcel (Novas Conquistas) from time to time. The deity was originally located at Chorão Island (Velhas Conquistas) but shifted in the 16 century when the Portuguese took control of the territory.
@akshaysawant3012
@akshaysawant3012 4 жыл бұрын
Odd Compass!🙏🏻 Thank you for speaking about this topic with great detail andat length. But the biggest irony is that this portion of crucial history is still not included in the history textbooks printed by the state education board of the state of Goa.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting - that’s too bad! Thanks for watching, Akshay
@SangitA
@SangitA 3 жыл бұрын
Maharashtra teaches about Shivaji but goa doesn't about this? What a shame!
@salilphansekar9557
@salilphansekar9557 3 жыл бұрын
@@SangitA even i came to know many things about Indian history through this channel, which i previously never knew
@cg8397
@cg8397 3 жыл бұрын
@@SangitA Because the 'history' in this video is exaggerated bullshit. It uses Priolkar's book as its source.
@pulz1191
@pulz1191 3 жыл бұрын
XAVIER AND THE REST OF THEM WAS GIVEN SAINTHOOD FOR THEIR "GOOD WORK". IRONICALLY XAVIER IS STILL REGARDED AS A GOOD BY GOAN CHRISTIANS.... BECAUSE THE CHURCH HAS MADE HIM A SAINT... ALSO THEIR IS A FAMOUS ART COLLEGE IN MUMBAI IN THE NAME OF "SAINT XAVIER".
@johanyousef1951
@johanyousef1951 3 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend thank you for bringing a non-western take on history of the south-southeast asian region with good graphics to boot! However, that being said, may I propose displaying the names of people/places on screen? It helps with me looking them up further when I know how they’re spelled
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 3 жыл бұрын
Sure! I have to be better about doing that - thanks for the recommendation 👍🏽
@pulz1191
@pulz1191 3 жыл бұрын
XAVIER AND THE REST OF THEM WAS GIVEN SAINTHOOD FOR THEIR "GOOD WORK". IRONICALLY XAVIER IS STILL REGARDED AS A GOOD BY GOAN CHRISTIANS.... BECAUSE THE CHURCH HAS MADE HIM A SAINT... ALSO THEIR IS A FAMOUS ART COLLEGE IN MUMBAI IN THE NAME OF "SAINT XAVIER".
@jacintofernandes2907
@jacintofernandes2907 3 жыл бұрын
@@pulz1191 yes, and?
@striverFor
@striverFor 2 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass for existing videos - please add some names and terms on the description or as a comment.
@Alexander_D_Shaffer
@Alexander_D_Shaffer 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first video that has been released since I discovered this channel! Thanks for starting it, Tarun. Top quality stuff.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Alexander -- I appreciate it, and hope you enjoy upcoming videos, too!
@SangitA
@SangitA 3 жыл бұрын
@ferzy09 biased? How ? Could you give any examples?
@starscream1457
@starscream1457 3 жыл бұрын
@ferzy09 its perfect... Its history recorded...
@starscream1457
@starscream1457 3 жыл бұрын
@Amey Tiwari he is indisn american
@cg8397
@cg8397 3 жыл бұрын
@@SangitA He leaves out the part where the majority of the natives converted before the temples were demolished
@chetri100
@chetri100 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video oddcompas. For too long this topic has been hidden in history.❤️ from Goa.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@upsetRussianPotato
@upsetRussianPotato 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the effort (research, editting, etc...) you have put in this video. As a portuguese national I had no idea of the cruelty, absurdity and consequences of the Portuguese Inquisition abroad. Portuguese History textbooks should follow your example and teach (create awareness) about the cruelty that followed the "Descobertas" Period. Only by also exposing/revisiting the bad and ugly events of history can we trully have a comprehensive understanding of our past. Thank you.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate your sentiments 🙏🏽
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
What effort?
@sergiomorais4906
@sergiomorais4906 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rabidanti a maioria dos portugueses a pedir reparações pela independência do Brasil? você não andará a abusar do grogue?
@Rabidanti
@Rabidanti 3 жыл бұрын
@@sergiomorais4906 G
@sergiomorais4906
@sergiomorais4906 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rabidanti pois, foi o que eu pensei.
@andrefilipe9042
@andrefilipe9042 3 жыл бұрын
I am Portugueses and even though we are taught a lot about our history in school. The Portugueses ruling is something that I never saw mentioned. Thanks for making this video about our history.
@vijnanabandhu2167
@vijnanabandhu2167 3 жыл бұрын
King Joao III of Portugal wrote: “the great concernment which lies upon Christian princes to look to matters of Faith and to employ its forces for its preservation makes me advise how sensible I am that not only in many parts of India under our subjection but even in our city of Goa, idols are worshipped, places in which our Faith may be more reasonable expected to flourish; and being well informed with how much liberty they celebrate their heathenish festivals, we command you to discover by diligent officers all the idols and to demolish and break them up In pieces where they are found, proclaiming severe punishments against anyone who dares to work, cast, make in sculpture, engrave, paint or bring to light any figure of idol in metal, brass, wood, plaster or any other matter, or bring them from other places; and against who publicly or privately celebrate any of their sports, keep by them any heathenish frankincense or assist and hide the Brahmins, the sworn enemies of the Christian profession… It is our pleasure that you punish them with the severity of the law without admitting any appeal or dispensation in the least.”
@andrefilipe9042
@andrefilipe9042 3 жыл бұрын
@@vijnanabandhu2167 Damn João the third wasn't joking around when it came to matters of religion.
@sergiomorais4906
@sergiomorais4906 3 жыл бұрын
@@vijnanabandhu2167 source?
@vijnanabandhu2167
@vijnanabandhu2167 3 жыл бұрын
@@sergiomorais4906 _Malabar and the Portuguese_ , KM Pannikkar, page 186-187.
@sergiomorais4906
@sergiomorais4906 3 жыл бұрын
@@vijnanabandhu2167 ´Thanks! One can only lament that 500 years later this example of religious intolerance by breaking idols didn't offer any lesson to anyone, specially to far-right hindu nationalists, who have been promoting the killing of hundreds of muslims. Only if they broke their idols, unfortunately they have any.
@itsRohitJain
@itsRohitJain Жыл бұрын
I would like to financially support the channel and I am overwhelmed by the content. Thanks for making these, it graphically illustrates what we learnt in last 10 years
@nishadprabhu7788
@nishadprabhu7788 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Odd Compass for speaking on this topic, here back in Goa, they still have not added the inquisition chapter in history for middle school. And most of the Goan teens don't even know about this topic and how Portuguese tortured our Ancestors. Thanks for bringing this up!
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
Well most of this might just be an exaggeration
@cg8397
@cg8397 3 жыл бұрын
The Inquisition targeted fake converts, not those who remained Hindu. The numbers executed were not many, less than 60 in total (also not all were of Hindu origin) from 1560 to 1812. More than 90% of the natives converted by the early 1700s, and so the native Goan majority knows but doesn't care.
@upadhyayrathiraj1518
@upadhyayrathiraj1518 3 жыл бұрын
@@popefrancis8153 Or under-reporting? The truth is too harsh for many to digest. Your Father Ferrero recently tried a new stunt telling that the Goanese weren't even Indians or Hindus. Such is the level of deliberate falsehoods.
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@upadhyayrathiraj1518 Your right The truth is too hard for people to digest that’s why the make up vicious lies Idk what father Ferrero was talking about The media likely just messed up his words Like they always do
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 6 ай бұрын
​@@upadhyayrathiraj1518Less than two hundred death sentences during all the goan inquisition's existence, hardly a genoc!de
@cipherw00t
@cipherw00t 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the Travancore-Dutch wars culminating in the Battle of Colachal which effectively ended the Dutch colonial threat in India. Brilliant work, as always. Big fan.
@user-he8zn4sl7p
@user-he8zn4sl7p 3 жыл бұрын
I'm of Portuguese and dutch descent as a result of colonization. We are Eurasians now and I've moved to the middle east My surname D'Cruz originally 'da cruz' meaning of the cross Got me thinking my ancestors might have been a part of this 'inquisition' also cause I recall my grand parents saying that their great grand parents (Portuguese) used to raid villages in southern india
@pauvermelho
@pauvermelho 3 жыл бұрын
How old are you 120?
@user-he8zn4sl7p
@user-he8zn4sl7p 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauvermelho 23
@pauvermelho
@pauvermelho 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-he8zn4sl7p Inquisition was pretty much dead after Lisbon tsunami (1755) your great grandparents hadn't been born yet
@user-he8zn4sl7p
@user-he8zn4sl7p 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauvermelho I mentioned my grand parents, great grand parents Not grand parents
@pauvermelho
@pauvermelho 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-he8zn4sl7p I didn't said grand parents I said great grandparents. But even your grand parents, great grand parents weren't a live yet. By the way can you trace so many people so far back into 1755?
@nolanlewis538
@nolanlewis538 3 жыл бұрын
St francis xavier is still revered as a saint in goa and christian from all around even karnataka make yearly trips there hoping for miracles ...i wonder how many of them know about this dark chapter. My community of konkan christians also migrated to costal karnataka during this time and i am sure now the real reason was persecution.
@upadhyayrathiraj1518
@upadhyayrathiraj1518 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it crazy that when St Xavier does, it becomes a miracle and when others do, that is called witchcraft?
@luanlopes9415
@luanlopes9415 2 жыл бұрын
Some fact is that we Brazilians contributed to did this in India, ... Many times indigenous natives of Guaraní nation was used with Brazilian caboclos as portuguese army that massacred many rebelds in India... They came as punitive expedictions of bandeirantes of São Paulo, to Goa and Diu
@mervincrasto6867
@mervincrasto6867 2 жыл бұрын
Not your fault. They were conscripts anyways. There were even many Indian conscripts fighting for them.
@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273
@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273 Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of male revolt
@feastguy101
@feastguy101 Жыл бұрын
Brother, that’s the least of what Brasil did. I’d look closer to home… maybe to Paraguay. It disgusts me that everyone here is engaging in a stupid morality competition over who was more victimized by the evil Portuguese from 500 years ago instead of assimilating the lesson on display here. My country did plenty of fucked up shit. Taken globally, India was actually lucky; what we did there isn’t a patch on what we did in Africa. Brasil, a part of Portugal for much of it’s existence and a country created by settlers, not natives, also did plenty of fucked up shit, both before and after independence. India, the portrayed victim in this context, is a completely artificial creation of the British Empire, that has, since it’s independence, developed a robust concept of nationhood. It had a varied list of atrocities committed both on the native states and their neighbors before British rule, and also managed to rack up quite the list of atrocities after independence, some of which can be felt to this day. Unlike both Brasil and Portugal, it is the only of these three countries that maintains several border claims and disputes, including the occupation of a territory in which the will of the native population was not respected. Nobody’s hands are clean. This is just how history is. It is up to us who study it to learn from it, instead of using it to fuel further resentment and hatred.
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I certainly wasn't expecting the Portuguese Inquisition. Seriously though, it was always amazing to me how different could be the approach of the authorities in different Catholic powers of this period to the matters of religion. Poland-Lithuania being on the opposite side of the spectrum than Portugal and Spain. Also, nice job of showing that the Inquisition was de facto also something like a state political police.
@cg8397
@cg8397 3 жыл бұрын
Ignore the video and others like it. This video leaves out facts that aren't pro-Hindu, like the temples being demolished only after the majority of the natives converted to Catholicism. It ignores the contemporary accounts written about the voluntary conversions of natives during the 1500s. Also that over 90% of the natives were Catholic by the early 1700s.
@rahulb5120
@rahulb5120 4 жыл бұрын
Everything is correct but you forgot to tell that its Kannada & Konkani which was major language of Goa back then not marathi. Kadamba kingdom ruled Goa for 100s of yrs and their administration language was Kannada & Konkani. Marathi rose only during maratha empire. And also you must give credit to King Nelavadi of Shimmoga who fought bravely against Portugese of Goa. Konkanis of Goa are found mainly in Uttara Kannada district & Karavali region because King Nelavadi of Shimmoga who used to rule these region gave refugee to them
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
I believe some sources referred to Marathi as the language often used by Hindu nobility at the time in Goa, whereas Konkani was the common language, but you’re likely correct about Kannada being important as well. It’s worth noting that Marathi rose during the Ahmadnagar Sultanate, before the Maratha Empire
@thedailyjusteen7742
@thedailyjusteen7742 4 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass Marathi Rose during the time of Senua Yadavas,who themselves were of Kannada origin but assimilated into the Marathi society and became Marathi.They were the first people to make Marathi there state language.It is because of them Marathi became one of the three major languages in the Deccan(other being Kannada and Telugu).Marathi was originally limited to a similar area as of Konkani but it was the Yadavas who spread it.Later Few Deccani Sultanates and Maratha Empire also patronised Marathi.
@dwarasamudra8889
@dwarasamudra8889 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedailyjusteen7742 yep Marathi was the official language of administration for the Ahmednagar Sultanate and it was one of three principal lanaguges of administration and literature of the Bijapur Sultanate along with Kannada and Dakhani Urdu.
@snaik9141
@snaik9141 3 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass what rubbish 1)Konkani is older than marathi 2) we r not kannad not ethnically or linguistically that way even Persian was the court language under Adil Shah in Goa but it is still not spoken by us we only speak Konkani ok all migrations were from Rajasthan (Bhandari and Maratha), Kaashmir(Saraswats), Dhangar(Gujarat), Gaud(Chita Nagpur Plateau) None from the south
@cg8397
@cg8397 3 жыл бұрын
@@snaik9141 Correct. Konkani was the people's language, although the administrative language differed. Kannada during Kadambas, Persian during Delhi sultanate, Kannada and Telugu during Vijayanagar, back to Persian during Bahamanis and Bijapuris, then Portuguese in Velhas Conquistas from 1510 till 1961, Marathi was official language in Novas Conquistas only during Maratha Empire period from 1600s to 1700s.
@dkumartiwari6656
@dkumartiwari6656 2 жыл бұрын
Shefali Vaidya has a brilliant presentation on Goan inquisition from a Hindu perspective. Her great grand parents experienced it first hand and passed the story on to their generation.
@leewenhao5964
@leewenhao5964 4 жыл бұрын
How Western imperialists suppress their oppressors and "the others", it's outright disgusting. From a Malaysian perspective, I find it even more bizarre that many Indian Malaysians still defend Western interests in Southeast Asia. Perhaps, the Orientalists have successfully rewritten our history to the extent many of our beautiful minds have become imprisoned. Again, an excellent video from you. Thank you for bringing justice to history.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I agree wholeheartedly - it’s sad to see how many in SE Asia take the side of Western colonial powers. I’m glad to have shown some clarifying history!
@barialbari731
@barialbari731 4 жыл бұрын
Tell me why does Malaysia have so many non Malays ?? . Malaysia should be only for Malays !
@cs-mi8ur
@cs-mi8ur 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you treated them fairly and as equal- like singapore,they won't.
@cs-mi8ur
@cs-mi8ur 3 жыл бұрын
@@barialbari731 And would start a malyasian civil war with Indian and Chinese interference.
@porothashawarma2339
@porothashawarma2339 2 жыл бұрын
@@cs-mi8ur burn bro 😂
@cafex123
@cafex123 Жыл бұрын
I bet Indians in goa never knew their heritage .. Hats off to your channel
@feastguy101
@feastguy101 Жыл бұрын
They probably did, considering that Goa remained a part of Portugal until 1961.
@sadmanmahi2584
@sadmanmahi2584 3 жыл бұрын
Now that is extremism behind the blanket of religion.
@rebeccaanderson5626
@rebeccaanderson5626 3 жыл бұрын
@Вхламинго are you insane? When did Jesus kill someone? When did his apostles kill someone? For the first three hundred years Christianity was the most persecuted religion in the Roman empire . Lol 😂
@rebeccaanderson5626
@rebeccaanderson5626 3 жыл бұрын
@Shaurya Joshi IT IS HUMAN CORRUPTION AND NOT CHRISTINITY
@rebeccaanderson5626
@rebeccaanderson5626 3 жыл бұрын
@Shaurya Joshi THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS WRITEN BY A BARBARIC WARING TRIBE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THE WORD OF GOD IS EXPRESSED IN A VIOLENT WAY AND IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE INTREPRETED LITERALLY
@maheshtambe9535
@maheshtambe9535 3 жыл бұрын
BJP doing same
@gh4ng
@gh4ng 3 жыл бұрын
@@maheshtambe9535 are you drunk? BJP has actually increased the budget for other religions, just search it!
@chaitanyareddymuthyala2967
@chaitanyareddymuthyala2967 3 жыл бұрын
Make a video on sufferings of Telangana Hindus under razakaars, in nijams rule
@rajeshswamy9993
@rajeshswamy9993 3 жыл бұрын
This one kinda makes me sad. Already in love your channel haha Goa was just one colony Diu and Daman were also captured and equal atrocities were conducted there. Both were the ports of trade. Gandhian styled protest ttook place first but then the Portuguese Ministry/Kings were to adamant to leave so India's first PM went non Gandhi way. They ere taken back by Indian Army post 50s Kudos to Egypt for not allowing the Portugal army to come through Mediterranean route.
@feastguy101
@feastguy101 Жыл бұрын
You mean you invaded Goa against international law. And Kashmir. No wonder your neighbors hate you.
@yudhirencathapermal5404
@yudhirencathapermal5404 4 жыл бұрын
Is it true that caste word originated from the word casta in Portuguese language?Because I have never caste word in any Indian language vocabulary or even old English vocabulary?
@vibhavdeshpande8196
@vibhavdeshpande8196 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it did. But some people go to far extream by saying that Jati/Varna discrimination is a colonial thing. Nah! It has been present before India was subject to multiple invasions. Although one can also agree that it got more rigid after invasions.
@vibhavdeshpande8196
@vibhavdeshpande8196 4 жыл бұрын
@Nyet Matchbox The very fact that they could play people of different castes against each other tells you how bad the system was. And no it did not get rigid because they played different castes against each other. It got rigid because our culture was in danger and any culture becomes rigid when faced with an external threat. So did caste. The rigidity in caste prevented people from easily converting to other faiths.
@vibhavdeshpande8196
@vibhavdeshpande8196 4 жыл бұрын
@Nyet Matchbox I do not agree with the point of view that Varna system was ever good and that there ever was an original form of Varna system in practice. The very fact that 4 Varnas turned into so many thousands of Jatis tells you how inefficient this system was.
@yudhirencathapermal5404
@yudhirencathapermal5404 4 жыл бұрын
@@vibhavdeshpande8196 ,Thank you for explanation.Do you think that the varna system need to be reform to eradicate the discrimination or eradicate itself?
@vibhavdeshpande8196
@vibhavdeshpande8196 4 жыл бұрын
@@yudhirencathapermal5404 Well I don't think that Varna system is in existence today. It is the Jati system which is there. It's not a simple upper caste lower caste thing anymore. Its more complicated than that. Jati today is a sub community which provides privileges and networks to members of that community. Today the problem of Jati is not scriptural. It's more of a social problem. I can give you some problems. Stereotyping of people from other Jatis, competition among different Jatis to create lobbies in different organizations, protesting for inclusion in reservations and the politics of different Jatis. It's like an undeclared civil war. The solutions cannot be radical. You cannot ask people to give up their Jatis. Just because some of us never felt a sense of belonging to a Jati does not mean rest of the society doesn't feel so. So it's going to be a slow process. Urbanisation of society is going to be the greatest contributor to get rid of Jatis. When you are living in urban society where you get to interact with people from different Jatis, the stereotyping starts to fall off. On the social front, I think Hindu unity and Hindu consolidation would be an important thing. So Hindutva can be a great force to negate Jati. I feel we are headed in the right direction. I feel Jati is going to die a slow death in next 1-2 centuries.
@Nunocesarsa
@Nunocesarsa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling story! I'm Portuguese.. and we don't talk about this in our schools but i had heard about it (partially).
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 3 жыл бұрын
Não sei até que ano tiveste história mas a inquisição aprende-se na disciplina de história. É claro que não é em detalhe, porque nada é estudado em detalhe, até porque é impossível num país com 900 anos entrar em detalhes, simplesmente não há tempo
@Nunocesarsa
@Nunocesarsa 3 жыл бұрын
@@lxportugal9343 lol que anedota claro que se estuda a inquisição, é obvio que nao era isso a que me referia
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nunocesarsa Anedota? Dizer isto "we don't talk about this in our schools" Dá uma ideia errada há pessoas que lêem o teu comentário
@Nunocesarsa
@Nunocesarsa 3 жыл бұрын
@@lxportugal9343 sim vai buscar o livro de historia do secundario que fala da inquisicao na india.. ou nas outras colonias.
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nunocesarsa Se eu o encontrar vou busca-lo :):):):) Em Portugal está lá de certeza que eu lembro-me e pareeeece-me que Goa também é mencionada mas não tenho a certeza. Os outros sítios acho que não são mencionados. No Brasil nem havia tribunal inquisitório. Acho que fora de Portugal, só em Goa é que foi problemático... mas mesmo assim julgo que em Portugal foi pior que em Goa. No terreiro do paço queimaram-se pessoas durante 3 dias seguidos, num determinado momento
@danielpereira5697
@danielpereira5697 3 жыл бұрын
The portuguese inquisition was no joke. Very dark period of Portugal and catholic religion.
@overlord5068
@overlord5068 3 жыл бұрын
But very necessary
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson 2 ай бұрын
​@@overlord5068🤮
@overlord5068
@overlord5068 2 ай бұрын
@@miguelatkinson Weirdo
@overlord5068
@overlord5068 2 ай бұрын
@@miguelatkinson Clown
@porothashawarma2339
@porothashawarma2339 Ай бұрын
@@overlord5068idiot , extremists , terrorist . These ideas you carry , are no different from ISIS and Al-Qaeda
@shark7n10
@shark7n10 4 жыл бұрын
Wow wonderful video! Please do a video on Kerala and the kingdoms of Calicut, Cochin and Travancore! Especially of their battles and relationships with the Portuguese!
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy! I think you may have mentioned it before, and it’s definitely on my mind! Just trying to figure out some shorter videos first :)
@shark7n10
@shark7n10 4 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass Totally great that you remembered! Anxiously waiting for those videos! Amazing work once again...keep it up!
@Anonymous-yr1hv
@Anonymous-yr1hv 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh... so this is the reason for higher Christian % in Goa! I never knew this. This should be taught in history books. All the atrocities committed on Indians is often ignored in our history books. When we don't learn from our past, we are bound to fall into the same hell again.
@ramdevchouhan2081
@ramdevchouhan2081 2 жыл бұрын
Some spread the news that he destroyed the culture but the letters prove that he actually learned the native languages, roamed with native people and ate their food. What about his clothings? Well he could not do anything about it because as a Priest it is demanded of every priest that they remain in their Cassock all the time. Certain liberties were rewarded only after the second Vatican Council (1962-1965). The inquisition was meant for wiping out Hindu religion and many were burnt at stakes and executed…how true is it? All the historians agree that the inquisition was not meant for any other but the Newly convert Christians who were falling back to their old practices. Francis Pyrard, a French traveller, was in Goa during the period July 1608 to January 1610. In his account of his travels he gives the following information of the Inquisition of Goa : The Indian Gentiles and Moors, of whatsover religion, are not subject to this Inquisition unless they have become Christians, and even then are not so rigorously dealt with as the Portuguese or New Christians from Portugal, or other Christians from Europe. But if peradventure an Indian, Moor, or Gentile inhabitant of Goa, had dissuaded or hindered another that was minded to become Christian, and that was proved against him, he would be punished by the Inquisition, as would be he who has caused another to quit Christianity; such cases often happen. The reason why they treat these Indian thus rigorously is that they suppose tluit they cannot be so steadfast in the faith as the old Christians ; also that it will prevent the rest from being led astray. For the same reason, too, they permit them to retain some of their petty Gentile and Mahomedan superstitions, such as not eating pork or beef, not drinking wine, and keeping to their former dress and ornaments, that is among men as well as women that are become Christians.[27] In fact there are evidences that the Portuguese brought about certain reforms in the society which the Hindu community had imposed on others and oppressed the lower class and women. For example the Portuguese dealt strictly with Sati. “ No Hindu woman, living in the territories of Salsete or Bardez, or in this island of Goa or any other island annexed thereto, shall bum herself alive on account In fact there are evidences that the Portuguese brought about certain reforms in the society which the Hindu community had imposed on others and oppressed the lower class and women. For example the Portuguese dealt strictly with Sati. “ No Hindu woman, living in the territories of Salsete or Bardez, or in this island of Goa or any other island annexed thereto, shall bum herself alive on account of the death of her husband. Any person who causes such a woman to be burnt alive, or for that purpose render an advice or help, be he a relation of the woman who has burnt herself or not, shall be liable to the penalty of loss of his entire estate, one half to the person who denounces him and the other for the works of the home of Apostle St. Thomas, and im¬ prisonment for life.[28] There were forced conversions. Really? The Newly converts were forcefully converted and were returning to their old religion out of love for it…really?? Hindus were persecuted and temples were broken down. How true is it and Was it a regular event? This is a big question. In fact these are many questions. I formally thought of addressing it one by one but these are interconnected and I may repeat things again and again that’s why I thought of integrating them together. And once again I would like to remind that we need to move from interpreting history to interpreting history in its context and circumstances. We cannot interpret histories according to the mindset and concepts of today. Just some decades ago, some tribes of the African deserts were cannibals, they have recently stopped their taste for human meat. Can you still judge them? III.3.1. NO FORCED CONVERSIONS AS REGULAR PATTERN Well, it is true that Afonso Albuquerque used a very easy technique to get the people to be Christians. However, we should know that it was the part of agreement with the local Hindus and the Portuguese under Albuquerque when they sought his help to fight the Muslims. If they were not happy with it shouldn’t they have rather died for their religion instead of converting to new one? Bragging about the situation makes no sense. Therefore, what people like Shefali try to show a picture is that they were forced. Not at all, they had a choice and an agreement. If you ask me whether there forced conversions in times of St. Francis Xavier or if he forcefully converted anyone the I would give a certainly NO. Let me first begin by saying that in the year 1567 the Portuguese King had come out with the edict that no one should be forced to convert or there would be severe punishment. “ In the first place it is hereby laid down that it is not lawful to bring to our faith and baptism any person by force with threats and terror, because no one comes to Christ by faith unless brought by the Celestial father with voluntary love and prevenient grace. Just as a person if by his free will he succumbs to the temptations of the Devil, perishes, so also if he responds to the call and grace of God he saves himself. The unbelievers should be brought to the true faith by the example of our lives, preaching of the truth of our law and the confutation of their errors so that by recognition of these things, they will give up their lies, and be received in Christ, who is the way, the truth and the life. Those who wish to bring the unbelievers to the true faith must also seek to cultivate gentleness and goodness in order that they may win persons to Christ, not merely by their preachings but also by kindness, courtesy and service .”[29] We should evaluate this edict. It was not merely any other order with a selfish motive behind the mind of the King to protect trade but a deep theological discourse. First of all he quotes the Scriptures to draw his conclusion. no one comes to Christ by faith unless brought by the Celestial father with voluntary love and prevenient grace.
@Pudin-kc2oz
@Pudin-kc2oz Жыл бұрын
@@ramdevchouhan2081 well I accept some facts like xavier wasn't involved in inquaisation.He was dead before that and that inquisition was just meant for catholics and not hindus but there are sources which talk about temples being destroyed and hindus being killed and hindusim trying to be killed okay,if those sources are false I am ready to belive you
@Oktolibre
@Oktolibre Жыл бұрын
The St. Thomas Basalica church in Chennai near seashore was previously Kapaleeswara Temple. The temple was rebuilt near present Mayilapore Chennai.
@knowledgemando2507
@knowledgemando2507 3 жыл бұрын
Am a mangalorean. But my ancestors were goan . Am a catholic my language is konkani
@ateium2409
@ateium2409 4 жыл бұрын
Portugeese : Lose their empire due to crappy policies and discrimination on the locals . Ummaiads : First time ?
@armandovaiandando6472
@armandovaiandando6472 4 жыл бұрын
It was for those same policies why Muslims (that is the Almoravid and Almohad dyanasties) lost the Iberian Peninsula from the Christian Kingdoms, like Portugal, so, it seems what comes around comes around.
@warrcoww6717
@warrcoww6717 3 жыл бұрын
@@armandovaiandando6472 the Almoravids weren’t around for long though, an later successor fiefdoms like the Emirate of Granada or the Emirate of Córdoba reverted to the far more tolerant ways for the Umayyads, thankfully. Sadly, it wasn’t to last as the fractured Muslim holdings in the peninsula were no match for the growing power of the Northern Christian realms, and it wasn’t long before the kingdoms of Astorias, Galicia, Leon and Castile formed into the Kingdom of Castile. Just as soon as they had conquered Seville, and Portugal Algarve, they became just as bad, if not worse than the Almoravids. At least they didn’t destroy Alhambra.
@enterfil
@enterfil 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not why Portugal lost their empire. They lost much of it because they were too small of a country and the land they owned was too big, also because they lost their war against the Dutch. Discrimination had nothing to do with why they lost their empire, it was the desire of freedom for why they lost it. Compared to other European nations Portuguese were much more tolerant of other races and had a high degree of intermixing with locals.
@yakmi1116
@yakmi1116 3 жыл бұрын
That's literally every empire in history. Also the main reason for Ummayad empire fall was the Abbasid coup which i really don't think it has alot to do with policies...... Abbasid also lost their empire because they gave too much power to their vassals & client states..
@thewingedhussar4188
@thewingedhussar4188 3 жыл бұрын
An yet for some reason, religious people (aka evangelical christians, Islamic extremists, and insert religious radicals here). Think this behavior is A ok so long as its their religion doing the oppressing.. Theocratic rule just doesn't work for long term. Iran's Islamic state has been around since 1979 and even now in 2021 its control is not very stable.
@ajay-wm5nr
@ajay-wm5nr 4 жыл бұрын
8:50 this is the same kind of approach the missionaries had in Kerala . Convert the upper caste first, I think this is to influence other caste more effectively and make propagation of Christianity more easier .
@Vpr2255
@Vpr2255 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 80% Christian & Muslims are from Backward CASTE Hindu 😂
@ajay-wm5nr
@ajay-wm5nr 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vpr2255 that's true, if you look recent time only ... But during the early times they targeted the upper class, as upper class had more influence on everyone and targetting the top got them help to spread their idea and got them other benifits ... in recent times only they started to offer money and then convert backward classes and many people changed themselves for money and now more people from backward class fall for missionaries .
@byron-ih2ge
@byron-ih2ge 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vpr2255 that was the british strategy
@Vpr2255
@Vpr2255 3 жыл бұрын
@@byron-ih2ge Backward caste persecution is the reason for mass conversion to Sikh, islam and Christian
@byron-ih2ge
@byron-ih2ge 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vpr2255 backward caste werent always treated as badly as they were treated during the period of 1700s-1947 that was the peak of caste system
@TheAlphaBeast007
@TheAlphaBeast007 3 жыл бұрын
This is an illuminating and informative video about the history of Goa. I greatly appreciate the effort you've put in to do it. As an Indian I myself was not aware of the atrocities that was perpetrated on Indian soil by the erstwhile Portuguese monarchy. Good thing that Goa was annexed by the Indian Armed Forces in 1961.
@saurangadas
@saurangadas 3 жыл бұрын
These acts were carried out in South America too. Imagine how diverse and colorful South America would have been if these kinds of acts were not done. There would be 100s of language tribes' cultures faith.
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
Most of these tribes faiths Included sacrifices
@saurangadas
@saurangadas 3 жыл бұрын
@@popefrancis8153 Every society evolves with time keeping the good practices and the bad slowing vanishes. In the process may gain some more bad practices and so on. This is how society progress. Oh....then killing torturing people and destroying 100s of language and culture is just to stop human sacrifice? Waooo....thats a great logic.
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@saurangadas Do you have proof that they tortured people? Because from what I know most of the inquisition accusation comes from Protestant England in a bid to make Catholicism look bad Even though they were burning people for being a witch without a proper trail
@vijnanabandhu2167
@vijnanabandhu2167 3 жыл бұрын
The Conquistadores killed millions of the indigenous inhabitants of what are now Mexico and the Yucatan. Before the conquest the population is believed to have numbered some 25 million; immediately after it fewer than seven million. By 1650 only about one and a half million pure-blooded natives remained. Following traditional Christian techniques, temples were pulled down to be replaced by cathedrals. Whole cities were destroyed, and new Christian ones constructed. For example modern Mexico City stands on the site of the Aztec city of Tenochtitlán and its cathedral on the site of one of the greatest Aztec temples. Some remote cities that survived for a time were concealed under encroaching jungle and have only recently been rediscovered. We know the Incas were great artists because some of their art has survived.
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@vijnanabandhu2167 they never killed them Most of them died of disease But I guess that doesn’t make the Christians sound bad So let’s lie
@vedkharade2484
@vedkharade2484 3 жыл бұрын
St. Francis Xavier - "if not for Brahmins I would have converted all Hindus to Christianity."
@thechosenone1533
@thechosenone1533 3 жыл бұрын
Proud to be a brahmin 💪
@ricardoribeiro8037
@ricardoribeiro8037 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the Brahmins were the first to convert in Goa. There is documentary evidence of this .
@Lmao69
@Lmao69 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricardoribeiro8037 one or 2? yes, many? No
@KarmaKraftttt
@KarmaKraftttt 10 ай бұрын
Clown brahmins ​@@thechosenone1533
@warrio617
@warrio617 9 ай бұрын
That's exactly why now bhramins are being targeted by Christian missionaries and Dravidian politics also the new ambetkarite
@davidkarunanithy8018
@davidkarunanithy8018 4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent episode. The Indian subcontinet has to have one of the most puzzlingly neglected histories in the world. It is rich with great kingdoms and rulers, forgotten battles and empires, fascinating people. The people of India (and the world) really ought to know more about it. When digging in the gold mine of Indian history, you're sure to find many nuggets.
@mylesjude233
@mylesjude233 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't know of this website already, then there is Livehistoryindia, a cool website that focuses on interesting moments in indian history, like for instance how Purate King Henry Avery stole from a mughal treasure ship, and having him branded by the English and Mughals as a international criminal.
@davidkarunanithy8018
@davidkarunanithy8018 4 жыл бұрын
@@mylesjude233 Thank you. I'll certainly have a look there.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Glad to keep making videos :)
@j1966t1969
@j1966t1969 3 жыл бұрын
The inquisition took place in Europe during a dark period. The religious leaders of that time did not deserve to be ahead of any religion. Haven't Hindus and Muslims been killing each other too? Are these religions terrible? Are all Muslims and Hindus bad?!!! The good will also last in the future. Everything that has a human hand, has good and evil... Portugal never intended to conquer India. Goa, Daman and Diu were needed to control the spice routes. The Portuguese married Indian women (mixed). And the British in India?! Goa was an important city, being considered the "ROME of the East" (one of the five patriarchates in the world is that of Goa). The Portuguese ended social differences (there were no castes). The Portuguese were in India until 1961 (the British until 1947). The Portuguese Empire in India is one of the states in India with the highest GDP per capita. 30% of the population is Catholic and many are proud that their culture is a mixture of Portuguese and Indian. The population has Portuguese names. Houses influenced by Portuguese architecture. The Inquisition was an error of the men who ruled the Catholic Church at that time. Once finished, there were no problems between religions. In Portuguese museums we find many artistic objects of Indo-Portuguese art. Our 1st minister is a Portuguese of Goan origin. ART revistaaguavai.blogspot.com/2015/04/arte-luso-oriental-e-indo-portuguesa.html kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2PXiGl7fKZsd7s Feast of St. John in India kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipy5Zn2mq5h3a7M In Portugal, there is also the feast of São João (people hit the heads of others with plastic hammers, jump over bonfires and go dancing). Many dating starts that day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iWhq2Pg5eHgck In the song kzbin.info/www/bejne/emW6naeLrctnr6s Goa Folklor with a lot of Portuguese kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS5aHd6mc98fck Goan food has many Portuguese influences and also the opposite. Spices matter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmKxlHiemsRgrLs 1st Minister António Costa (visit to India and relatives in Goa) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnK0eHiIqq57a7s This year Portugal led the European Union, having organized the EU-India Summit (strengthening friendship and economic relations). You can pass subtitles in English. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2zqn5soamrhtU Influences form both ways. From Portugal to India and from India to Portugal. A hug.
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o 3 жыл бұрын
Well, my country (Portugal) went through a tough period with the inquisition. Most people were expecting it, after the Spanish one happened. But, we moved past that. In fact, our current Prime Minister is from Goa!
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
@Antares I hope they do Then we can restore the monarchy and Catholicism
@traveljunkieleonardo3679
@traveljunkieleonardo3679 3 жыл бұрын
You can't say he's a Goan because he hasn't lived Here
@SangitA
@SangitA 3 жыл бұрын
@pavan true I saw some 4-5 accounts like this on this channel. Even though the content is good, I suppose they are employed to comment absurd things, n we indians will reply ... Untimely increasing engagement n being recommend to more people..
@SangitA
@SangitA 3 жыл бұрын
@@eucenor4171 true I saw some 4-5 accounts like this on this channel. Even though the content is good, I suppose they are employed to comment absurd things, n we indians will reply ... Untimely increasing engagement n being recommend to more people..
@wheniwakeupinmy_room_9625
@wheniwakeupinmy_room_9625 3 жыл бұрын
@@traveljunkieleonardo3679 he has!
@d_1012
@d_1012 3 жыл бұрын
The Portuguese catholics wouldn’t even spare British Protestant visitors in Goa let alone non Christian natives . That’s how radical and draconian the rule was .
@elhombredeoro955
@elhombredeoro955 3 жыл бұрын
Protestantism is heresy. Martin Luther was not an apostle.
@TempleofBrendaSong
@TempleofBrendaSong 3 жыл бұрын
@sneksnekitsasnek because everyone else has nuclear weapons
@starscream1457
@starscream1457 3 жыл бұрын
@sneksnekitsasnek but there ancestore werent good people.... Countries like france already apologized for their crimes in colonies... We are waiting for same from UK and portugal
@timepasstubee
@timepasstubee 3 жыл бұрын
@sneksnekitsasnek it's their right to ask for reperations :)
@upadhyayrathiraj1518
@upadhyayrathiraj1518 3 жыл бұрын
@@elhombredeoro955 And what is heresy? Did your God came down only for the Roman Catholics?
@zebcarvalho3294
@zebcarvalho3294 Жыл бұрын
My ancestor converted to Catholicism 200 years ago, my Grand parents came from Goa to Mangalore, spoke Konkani, Kannada, Hindi and English. Terrible things were and are done in the name of religion unfortunately this is history in general and the dark side of human behaviour.
@enhaa784
@enhaa784 Жыл бұрын
🙂 Christian missionary do Same tail now .....ex Manipur but how they represent????
@shubhankardasgupta4777
@shubhankardasgupta4777 Жыл бұрын
So are you considering to return back to your roots? Return to Vedic Hinduism.
@zebcarvalho3294
@zebcarvalho3294 Жыл бұрын
@@shubhankardasgupta4777 prefer to be agnostic my friend yet respect everyone's right to worship whomever they want to.
@santusanturohit4832
@santusanturohit4832 Жыл бұрын
@@zebcarvalho3294 There are many agnostic/atheist schools in Indian Philosophy..Samkhya,Nyay,Ajivika, Ajana ,Charvaka, Buddhism and Jainism etc..hope you know about them.
@zebcarvalho3294
@zebcarvalho3294 Жыл бұрын
@@santusanturohit4832 not really man haven't lived in India since I was 14 but good to know.
@theforce8785
@theforce8785 4 жыл бұрын
The inquisition happened mostly in the coastal region (old conquest) of Goa. The central(hilly) and eastern(western ghat) region came under Portuguese rule only in the late eighteenth century. That too the vassals of marathas and later the wadiyars signed a treaty to protect the temples in the 'new conquest'.
@snaik9141
@snaik9141 3 жыл бұрын
True
@upadhyayrathiraj1518
@upadhyayrathiraj1518 3 жыл бұрын
And also because the Inquisition was ended in 1812 by the Court of Rio Janeiro and under the British pressures.
@brucerego1489
@brucerego1489 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this video.
@sriharshacv7760
@sriharshacv7760 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Really appreciate it!
@OddCompass
@OddCompass Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support! 🙏🏽
@sacheinc5014
@sacheinc5014 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, very well put together video, yet again. The level of research involved in every single video is astonishing! :)
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sacheinc5014
@sacheinc5014 3 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass where are you from dude? 😅 Your accent doesn't seem very south indian like it seems more like a new yorker.. just curious😄
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 3 жыл бұрын
@@sacheinc5014 Haha, I'm from the USA! I'm Indian-American (though I recently went abroad and lived in Malaysia for 4 years, and traveled through Europe and Asia).
@sacheinc5014
@sacheinc5014 3 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass That's why I asked, only someone who have a sense belonging to our culture can do this type videos given the fact how much our ancestors had been through, Keep doing what you are doing dude, we here the people of south india wasn't taught much of this history in school, also the rest of the world need to know the history from this part of the world.! Love from Tamil Nadu ❤️😊
@AmelDousary1
@AmelDousary1 3 жыл бұрын
Yet you have some Indians who are so proud of their Portuguese lineage or mixing with the Portuguese.
@br3menPT
@br3menPT 3 жыл бұрын
Yes thousands! That why Nerhu left his fake pacifism and invaded...he said "Portuguese must leave Goa even if goans don´t want it" Inquisition was over in 1821...and since 1776 nobody was punished in Goa....so clearly in 1961 nobody remeber about Inquisition anymore
@starscream1457
@starscream1457 3 жыл бұрын
Naa not now... Those people either went to portugal or left india for christian majority country
@cg8397
@cg8397 3 жыл бұрын
@@starscream1457 They go there during adulthood for work purposes, but their homes are still in Goa and they retire there. Watch the video of the Figueiredo house in Loutolim.
@cg8397
@cg8397 3 жыл бұрын
That's because 90% of the Velhas Conquistas became Catholic by the early 1700s. Note that all the comments about ancestors leaving Goa come from Brahmins (less than 5% of the natives). The Inquisition narrative in this video also doesn't match the contemporary historical records. The video creator thinks that Priolkar's book is factual.
@adriangaming4853
@adriangaming4853 3 жыл бұрын
@@br3menPT You blabbering here too!!
@arsalanshaikh3763
@arsalanshaikh3763 4 жыл бұрын
Great video sir as an indian living in Maharashtra I never knew about this inquisition that took place in Goa. The Portuguese had other colonies in Gujrat Daman and Diu did the native people suffer such attrocities there too ?
@nikkeipvck8529
@nikkeipvck8529 2 жыл бұрын
do u know th attrocites done by ur ancestors?
@au29
@au29 Жыл бұрын
@@nikkeipvck8529 He is converted fellow
@ninjadude971
@ninjadude971 3 жыл бұрын
When Xavier tried to preach Catholicism in Japan, the Catholic priests there got totally rekt Thanks for avenging us Japan
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t just kill priests They killed men and woman and children
@ninjadude971
@ninjadude971 3 жыл бұрын
@@popefrancis8153 so did the catholics everywhere else
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninjadude971 And catholic were killed everywhere too An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth Sadly the catholic didn’t read the other passages concerning that
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninjadude971 Even though catholic were persecuted in japan Most of them refused to convert So the preaching must have gone well to have so many loyal followers In Christ
@ninjadude971
@ninjadude971 3 жыл бұрын
@@popefrancis8153 many of them eventually dropped christianity, a few kept it in secret
@MegaRazzzz
@MegaRazzzz 3 жыл бұрын
The KZbin algorithm has somehow prevented this channel from blowing up. Your content is beautiful and well researched and the target demographic should ideally get you a lot of views. I suggest you look up ways to improve your reach as these videos are gold and deserve a lot more views than they currently have.
@portulanka
@portulanka 3 жыл бұрын
Many people in Portugal are also unaware of these facts, thanks for sharing this! Could you share your sources in the future too?
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 3 жыл бұрын
Search for this title, on page 265 The Life and Letters of St. Francis Xavier, Volume1 By Henry James Coleridge Se é esta a carta que eles falam... qualquer pessoa pode ver que ele não pediu a inquisição
@portulanka
@portulanka 3 жыл бұрын
@@lxportugal9343 books.google.co.uk/books?id=aDYH62y0cR0C&q=265#v=snippet&q=inquisition&f=false ya, bem visto não está escrito em nenhum lugar...!
@feastguy101
@feastguy101 Жыл бұрын
@@lxportugal9343esquece… uma viagem pelos comentários mostra bem o ódio que tanta desta gente nos tem. Os antepassados deles, claro, eram todos uns santos.
@reubenmammen8065
@reubenmammen8065 3 жыл бұрын
What a educational and an Eye opening Video ! Thank You.
@kirua_h
@kirua_h 4 жыл бұрын
The Brahmins fled with the idols from the temples and those temples were rebuild in another location.
@lakshyasehgal4097
@lakshyasehgal4097 3 жыл бұрын
@sneksnekitsasnek All the best to you. Go and get started with your mission don't be a warrior behind the keyboard.
@arjunarun3033
@arjunarun3033 3 жыл бұрын
@sneksnekitsasnek its funnt seeing people mocl idol worship as if what theyre doing makes any sense
@snaik9141
@snaik9141 3 жыл бұрын
Not just Brahmins all Hindus Naiks Dessais Kamats Doesn't matter which clan they belonged to DO NOT DIVIDE GOAN HINDUS
@snaik9141
@snaik9141 3 жыл бұрын
@sneksnekitsasneklol even Christaos in Goa worship idols of local godess converts to Christianity like Milagres Saibin U cannot change anything it's just how we r
@kirtipandit2010
@kirtipandit2010 3 жыл бұрын
We Hindus welcomed all people who are prosecuted and other religions and at the end become procured by them at the end
@asamanthinketh5944
@asamanthinketh5944 3 жыл бұрын
yes burning widows in the name of sati ( ya i know in shastras it was done with consent ) barring shudras , beating them etc i can quote smritis , puranas and upanishads
@rp7159
@rp7159 3 жыл бұрын
@@asamanthinketh5944 have you heard of reformers in Vedanta?
@rp7159
@rp7159 3 жыл бұрын
@@asamanthinketh5944 ever come across the term "non prescriptive religion"?
@rp7159
@rp7159 3 жыл бұрын
@@asamanthinketh5944 Please share us your beliefs?
@rp7159
@rp7159 3 жыл бұрын
@Anjana Anjuuu Hinduism is not like a certain "faith" which scares the poor followers into obeying the rules of an angry and jealous "God". So we have do's and don'ts, no commandments. Hindus are free to act as they wish but they will have to bear the consequences of their actions. Good action will result in good karma and bad action will result in bad karma for the soul. The laws of karma are eternal and are closely tied up with reincarnation. So anyone should think long and hard about how they act in this world.
@ssam00
@ssam00 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video as usual. Learned a lot! Your channel is by far the best on Indian/ South Asian history right now. Cool animations too! Would you like to share what tool you use to make animations?
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I use Adobe Illustrator to make the art, and Adobe AfterEffects to animate it
@ekdujhekeliyeentertainment497
@ekdujhekeliyeentertainment497 4 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass India is a country where minorities fear that they will lynched for eating beef(Even though the country is secular). India is a country where the society tries to prevent interfaith marriages(Even though there is no such law. Oh! I forgot! They are going to make one) . India is a country which tries to erase the Islamic rule from it's history books or atleast rewrite it to suit their narrative( that's 600ish years off the timeline). India is country which harasses even it's liberal Hindu citizens for standing up against such injustice. India is a country where the right-wingers are worried that the population of muslims might overgrow and overthrow them( By birth or immigration). I know your narrative here is like that of a left-wing liberal minded person. But I bet that you don't know that most of the people who have commented positively on your video are actually right-wing supporters. Speaking of the Portuguese rule in Goa. There is no denying the fact that colonial powers especially Spain and Portugal tried to spread Christianity throughout their colonies. Their legacy is today evident from the fact that there are more Catholics in the Americas than in Europe . Also let me inform you that many "Goans" are proud to be a catholic. The famous saint St.Francis Xavier you mentioned is revered by many Goans. Many of whom are looking forward to celebrating his feast this year on the 3rd of December. Goa is also a state where beef is legal but cow slaughter is banned(Buffalo and ox meat is legal). Thanks to the guys like those who love this video of yours. In times where Indian muslims are seen in bad light because of the right-wing politicians and media who portray the Mughals and other Islamic rulers as "evil and ruthless ". Your video adds only more fuel to this raging inferno. India today is predominantly a far- right country. They are renaming the towns and cities with an intention to wipe out the Islamic legacy and it's heritage. They have done same with many British named cities and monuments as well. The "saffron terror" or "Hindu nationalism " might be a good topic for your next video. (Let's see how many positive comments you'll get on that video?) But maybe no one will tell about this. Most likely because you believe an Indian who is a Hindu. My comment might sound a bit different in tone compared to the other "positive-I-like-your-video" comments. But trust me, it is not you who I fear but those who will reply to my comment in retaliation. Also I would like to add that since you have shown interest in India's history it would also be very helpful if you paid to attention to it's current affairs and recent history as well. There are many here who are targeted both on social media and in real life just because their names sound foreign and anti-national(Yes,that's a thing.Muslims and Christians are seen as outsiders and a threat to their way of life.). There are two sides to every story.⚖ If you are a Hindu(right-wing)then you'll most likely delete my comment.
@akshayborkar
@akshayborkar 4 жыл бұрын
Read 'Goa Inquisition' by Anant Priolkar
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
It’s very informative!
@72flynngomes16
@72flynngomes16 3 жыл бұрын
Hi sir Akshay. I'm your student from Manovikas school.
@72flynngomes16
@72flynngomes16 3 жыл бұрын
@@vipulsinari3384 Hi
@vipulsinari3384
@vipulsinari3384 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sir I'm ur student from manovikas passed out in 2020
@akshayborkar
@akshayborkar 3 жыл бұрын
Hello @flynn gomes @vipul sinari
@rajeshwardevrathod869
@rajeshwardevrathod869 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing out this buried chapter of history . A short video on Telugu rebel Prolayavema Reddy of Kondavidu dynasty would be Wonderful if you revisit Andhra Pradesh history and the chaos situation in AD 1325 , his rebellion and the gorilla war tactics he adopted was fantastic and he was the saviour and he relieved people of oppression and injustice .
@takenbythewindNdrivenbythesea
@takenbythewindNdrivenbythesea 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, what’s up ✌️ Sorry, was quite busy lately due to high rise pandemic in Malaysia 🇲🇾 Just watched the video. Never thought that Portuguese were so oppressive... Gold, Glory and Gospel is something that Portuguese really chasing for... Great Video with real truth.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kalvindran, I've been very busy with work and other things as well! I hope you and your loved ones are safe in Malaysia.
@takenbythewindNdrivenbythesea
@takenbythewindNdrivenbythesea 4 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass ❤️❤️❤️ thank you very much. Have a great day ✌️✌️✌️
@Khatulistiwan
@Khatulistiwan 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you truly knew what they did in Melaka, then it wouldn't be so surprising
@br3menPT
@br3menPT 3 жыл бұрын
@@Khatulistiwan You have no idea about the world in 1600.....Its Early modern period
@j1966t1969
@j1966t1969 3 жыл бұрын
The inquisition took place in Europe during a dark period. The religious leaders of that time did not deserve to be ahead of any religion. The good will also last in the future. Everything that has a human hand, has good and evil... Portugal never intended to conquer India. Goa, Daman and Diu were needed to control the spice routes. The Portuguese married Indian women (mixed). And the British in India?! Goa was an important city, being considered the "ROME of the East" (one of the five patriarchates in the world is that of Goa). The Portuguese ended social differences (there were no castes). The Portuguese were in India until 1961 (the British until 1947). The Portuguese Empire in India is one of the states in India with the highest GDP per capita. 30% of the population is Catholic and many are proud that their culture is a mixture of Portuguese and Indian. The population has Portuguese names. Houses influenced by Portuguese architecture. The Inquisition was an error of the men who ruled the Catholic Church at that time. Once finished, there were no problems between religions. In Portuguese museums we find many artistic objects of Indo-Portuguese art. Our 1st minister is a Portuguese of Goan origin. ART revistaaguavai.blogspot.com/2015/04/arte-luso-oriental-e-indo-portuguesa.html kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2PXiGl7fKZsd7s Feast of St. John in India kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipy5Zn2mq5h3a7M In Portugal, there is also the feast of São João (people hit the heads of others with plastic hammers, jump over bonfires and go dancing). Many dating starts that day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iWhq2Pg5eHgck In the song kzbin.info/www/bejne/emW6naeLrctnr6s Goa Folklor with a lot of Portuguese kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS5aHd6mc98fck Goan food has many Portuguese influences and also the opposite. Spices matter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmKxlHiemsRgrLs 1st Minister António Costa (visit to India and relatives in Goa) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnK0eHiIqq57a7s This year Portugal led the European Union, having organized the EU-India Summit (strengthening friendship and economic relations). You can pass subtitles in English. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2zqn5soamrhtU Influences form both ways. From Portugal to India and from India to Portugal. A hug.
@RajaSharma-ph9z
@RajaSharma-ph9z 3 жыл бұрын
I think You were doing lot of research for this kind of truths man. I really started loving u r channel. Putting lot of effort and energy.....keep it up man
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@sriramradhakrishna878
@sriramradhakrishna878 3 жыл бұрын
The number of hinduphobes in this comments section is actually astonishing. And I don't use that word lightly
@ikengaspirit3063
@ikengaspirit3063 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, they're trying to defend their sides.
@sriramradhakrishna878
@sriramradhakrishna878 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikengaspirit3063 Can you imagine what it would be like to say 'Eh, they're trying to defend their sides.' if the context of discussion was the holocaust? Why is this any more socially acceptable?
@ikengaspirit3063
@ikengaspirit3063 3 жыл бұрын
@@sriramradhakrishna878 Yes, I can say that about the Holocaust, people here where I live don't really care about it. Also, arguments tend to draw to a halt if you refuse to understand the justifications of the other side.
@sriramradhakrishna878
@sriramradhakrishna878 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikengaspirit3063 I agree with you in your general approach to arguments and that criticism is important, but I draw the line at killing people for whatever reason except a democratic and legally warranted one (again, genocides excluded), irrespective of whether or not said crime is relevant to your country/people. There's no way an argument like that can lead to a constructive conclusion
@ShidaiTaino
@ShidaiTaino 3 жыл бұрын
Where?
@fishyfish6510
@fishyfish6510 Жыл бұрын
I'm Protestant Christian and I have to admit no one would wanna cross path with them Spanish and Portuguese Catholic bois in the 1500's 💀 Look at what they did in South America!
@feastguy101
@feastguy101 Жыл бұрын
Witch burnings by Protestants, stones in glass houses, etc.
@chrisjoseph9938
@chrisjoseph9938 3 жыл бұрын
The Portuguese were the people who divided the ancient Malabar Christians
@byron-ih2ge
@byron-ih2ge 3 жыл бұрын
they literally destroyed the most ancient and a unique branch of Christianity . so many manuscripts written in ancient syriac were kept preserved by st thomas christians for over a 1000 yrs , 90 percent of them were burned and so many practices banned just to impose there romanised version of Christianity known as latin catholicism and congrats today the largest christian festival is christmas which in reality has nothing to do with christ .roman pagan festival turned into the birthday of jesus 😂
@asamanthinketh5944
@asamanthinketh5944 3 жыл бұрын
@@byron-ih2ge Christmas was not roman pagan festival though although there were overlap
@byron-ih2ge
@byron-ih2ge 3 жыл бұрын
@@asamanthinketh5944 bro i am pretty sure that christ was not born in december.
@byron-ih2ge
@byron-ih2ge 3 жыл бұрын
@@asamanthinketh5944 saturnalia was the biggest roman festival which was held around 12-20 december , this was the main reason why when they christianised themselves they turned there biggest festival into the "birth of christ narrative"
@byron-ih2ge
@byron-ih2ge 3 жыл бұрын
@pavan literally thats true for anyone
@Oceansta
@Oceansta Жыл бұрын
There are still many Indian-Goans who love Portugal even today 😅
@nanobotxtina5355
@nanobotxtina5355 11 ай бұрын
Yeah my ex is brainwashed Portuguese catholic from goa to this day 🙄
@gearedbraingoa2324
@gearedbraingoa2324 3 жыл бұрын
My ancestors escaped from Goa to protect Thier temple and religion
@sanskarpareek1584
@sanskarpareek1584 3 жыл бұрын
@sneksnekitsasnek this is kalyug
@pedrosilvasouto7320
@pedrosilvasouto7320 5 ай бұрын
as a Portuguese myself i am ashamed of the evil catholic inquisition that killed so many innocent people
@overlord5068
@overlord5068 2 ай бұрын
P R O P A G A N D A
@Relcilisity_Official
@Relcilisity_Official 2 ай бұрын
@@overlord5068 Cope
@overlord5068
@overlord5068 2 ай бұрын
@@Relcilisity_Official No, you
@Hydra-dr8hd
@Hydra-dr8hd 26 күн бұрын
@secularism4632-w5j Jesus is God
@prashantnyk4458
@prashantnyk4458 2 жыл бұрын
I BELONG TO A MARATHA COMMUNITY IN GOA ..BUT AFTER THE FALL OF MARATHA EMPIRE MY FAMILY MOVED TO THE SOUTH BECAUSE OF VARIOUS TAXES AND HARRASMENT BY THE PORTUGUESE.. TODAY I AM PROUD THAT MY FAMILY DIDNT CONVERT THEIR RELIGION FOR TAX EXEMPTIONS AND ALL ... JAY SHIVRAY.!
@tejaswilog3946
@tejaswilog3946 4 жыл бұрын
Bro pls make a video on King HEMCHANDRA VIKRAMADITYA (HEMU)
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
It's on my mind!
@lakshyasehgal4097
@lakshyasehgal4097 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I want a video on him. He is super underrated and ignored even his tomb has been converted to a mosque and most of the people don't know or care about him.
@vedkharade2484
@vedkharade2484 3 жыл бұрын
The name of our prestigious institutions are st. Xaviers, st. Stephens and yet we send our children to those schools proudly. Such a colonised mentality!
@j1966t1969
@j1966t1969 3 жыл бұрын
The inquisition took place in Europe during a dark period. The religious leaders of that time did not deserve to be ahead of any religion. Haven't Hindus and Muslims been killing each other too? Are these religions terrible? Are all Muslims and Hindus bad?!!! The good will also last in the future. Everything that has a human hand, has good and evil... Portugal never intended to conquer India. Goa, Daman and Diu were needed to control the spice routes. The Portuguese married Indian women (mixed). And the British in India?! Goa was an important city, being considered the "ROME of the East" (one of the five patriarchates in the world is that of Goa). The Portuguese ended social differences (there were no castes). The Portuguese were in India until 1961 (the British until 1947). The Portuguese Empire in India is one of the states in India with the highest GDP per capita. 30% of the population is Catholic and many are proud that their culture is a mixture of Portuguese and Indian. The population has Portuguese names. Houses influenced by Portuguese architecture. The Inquisition was an error of the men who ruled the Catholic Church at that time. Once finished, there were no problems between religions. In Portuguese museums we find many artistic objects of Indo-Portuguese art. Our 1st minister is a Portuguese of Goan origin. ART revistaaguavai.blogspot.com/2015/04/arte-luso-oriental-e-indo-portuguesa.html kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2PXiGl7fKZsd7s Feast of St. John in India kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipy5Zn2mq5h3a7M In Portugal, there is also the feast of São João (people hit the heads of others with plastic hammers, jump over bonfires and go dancing). Many dating starts that day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iWhq2Pg5eHgck In the song kzbin.info/www/bejne/emW6naeLrctnr6s Goa Folklor with a lot of Portuguese kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS5aHd6mc98fck Goan food has many Portuguese influences and also the opposite. Spices matter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmKxlHiemsRgrLs 1st Minister António Costa (visit to India and relatives in Goa) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnK0eHiIqq57a7s This year Portugal led the European Union, having organized the EU-India Summit (strengthening friendship and economic relations). You can pass subtitles in English. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2zqn5soamrhtU Influences form both ways. From Portugal to India and from India to Portugal. A hug.
@chitranjankumarkushwaha4259
@chitranjankumarkushwaha4259 2 жыл бұрын
Ignorance leads to mistake Christina schools are mostly factories of missionary .they try convert poor hindus to Christianity. St Francis was not St he was genocider.
@feastguy101
@feastguy101 Жыл бұрын
Goa was part of Portugal for far longer than the concept of Indian nationhood has existed.
@vedkharade2484
@vedkharade2484 Жыл бұрын
@@feastguy101 lmao. India the idea of its shared civilization has existed long before Portugal. We have temples of the same gods all over the entire country built by locals thousands of years before Christianity even existed.
@feastguy101
@feastguy101 Жыл бұрын
@@vedkharade2484 so does Europe. That’s not what a nation is.
@AneeshT
@AneeshT 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Knew about the inquisition, but didn't expect such brutality! Wonderful channel! You can also explore the history of tulunadu (current southern coastal Karnataka) and the story of Rani abbakka.
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
Well the brutality part could well be an exaggeration Considering how exaggerated the inquisition was in Europe
@parthdalvi7310
@parthdalvi7310 3 жыл бұрын
@@popefrancis8153 this is true history you people never accept To convert people you go to any extent and whitewash other things
@popefrancis8153
@popefrancis8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@parthdalvi7310 Why would I whitewash when I am brown Sometimes history can be exaggerated by angry people
@j1966t1969
@j1966t1969 3 жыл бұрын
The inquisition took place in Europe during a dark period. The religious leaders of that time did not deserve to be ahead of any religion. The good will also last in the future. Everything that has a human hand, has good and evil... Portugal never intended to conquer India. Goa, Daman and Diu were needed to control the spice routes. The Portuguese married Indian women (mixed). And the British in India?! Goa was an important city, being considered the "ROME of the East" (one of the five patriarchates in the world is that of Goa). The Portuguese ended social differences (there were no castes). The Portuguese were in India until 1961 (the British until 1947). The Portuguese Empire in India is one of the states in India with the highest GDP per capita. 30% of the population is Catholic and many are proud that their culture is a mixture of Portuguese and Indian. The population has Portuguese names. Houses influenced by Portuguese architecture. The Inquisition was an error of the men who ruled the Catholic Church at that time. Once finished, there were no problems between religions. In Portuguese museums we find many artistic objects of Indo-Portuguese art. Our 1st minister is a Portuguese of Goan origin. ART revistaaguavai.blogspot.com/2015/04/arte-luso-oriental-e-indo-portuguesa.html kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2PXiGl7fKZsd7s Feast of St. John in India kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipy5Zn2mq5h3a7M In Portugal, there is also the feast of São João (people hit the heads of others with plastic hammers, jump over bonfires and go dancing). Many dating starts that day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iWhq2Pg5eHgck In the song kzbin.info/www/bejne/emW6naeLrctnr6s Goa Folklor with a lot of Portuguese kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS5aHd6mc98fck Goan food has many Portuguese influences and also the opposite. Spices matter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmKxlHiemsRgrLs 1st Minister António Costa (visit to India and relatives in Goa) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnK0eHiIqq57a7s This year Portugal led the European Union, having organized the EU-India Summit (strengthening friendship and economic relations). You can pass subtitles in English. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2zqn5soamrhtU Influences form both ways. From Portugal to India and from India to Portugal. A hug.
@parthdalvi7310
@parthdalvi7310 3 жыл бұрын
@@popefrancis8153 whitewash means hiding i am not talking about racism But there are many evidence about this Now even Canada accepted about graveyards
@franciscomm7675
@franciscomm7675 4 жыл бұрын
Great work. Will you make a video about the Gupta empire?
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Francisco -- I do want to cover the "end" of the Gupta Empire (how it fell to Central Asian Hindus known as "White Huns").
@rudman97
@rudman97 4 жыл бұрын
There was a famous Portuguese colony in Bandel, West Bengal, India. While Goa was on the Arabian sea beach, this colony was on the banks of river Ganga and acted as a trading post on the bay of bengal route. This colony has a rich history too. You can make a video on it.
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! Thanks for mentioning it - there was certainly more to Portuguese India than just Goa
@j1966t1969
@j1966t1969 3 жыл бұрын
The inquisition took place in Europe during a dark period. The religious leaders of that time did not deserve to be ahead of any religion. Haven't Hindus and Muslims been killing each other too? Are these religions terrible? Are all Muslims and Hindus bad?!!! The good will also last in the future. Everything that has a human hand, has good and evil... Portugal never intended to conquer India. Goa, Daman and Diu were needed to control the spice routes. The Portuguese married Indian women (mixed). And the British in India?! Goa was an important city, being considered the "ROME of the East" (one of the five patriarchates in the world is that of Goa). The Portuguese ended social differences (there were no castes). The Portuguese were in India until 1961 (the British until 1947). The Portuguese Empire in India is one of the states in India with the highest GDP per capita. 30% of the population is Catholic and many are proud that their culture is a mixture of Portuguese and Indian. The population has Portuguese names. Houses influenced by Portuguese architecture. The Inquisition was an error of the men who ruled the Catholic Church at that time. Once finished, there were no problems between religions. In Portuguese museums we find many artistic objects of Indo-Portuguese art. Our 1st minister is a Portuguese of Goan origin. ART revistaaguavai.blogspot.com/2015/04/arte-luso-oriental-e-indo-portuguesa.html kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2PXiGl7fKZsd7s Feast of St. John in India kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipy5Zn2mq5h3a7M In Portugal, there is also the feast of São João (people hit the heads of others with plastic hammers, jump over bonfires and go dancing). Many dating starts that day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iWhq2Pg5eHgck In the song kzbin.info/www/bejne/emW6naeLrctnr6s Goa Folklor with a lot of Portuguese kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS5aHd6mc98fck Goan food has many Portuguese influences and also the opposite. Spices matter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmKxlHiemsRgrLs 1st Minister António Costa (visit to India and relatives in Goa) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnK0eHiIqq57a7s This year Portugal led the European Union, having organized the EU-India Summit (strengthening friendship and economic relations). You can pass subtitles in English. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2zqn5soamrhtU Influences form both ways. From Portugal to India and from India to Portugal. A hug.
@himesilva
@himesilva 2 жыл бұрын
Maaan, I hate how religion turns people into monsters. I wish us Portuguese and Spanish weren't so lost in the sauce... separation of church and state is paramount
@chansangwoon5049
@chansangwoon5049 3 жыл бұрын
Healthy dose of true facts in history. A solemn reminder of our present actions and a certainty that today's evils be exposed in future.
@indiandroid0750
@indiandroid0750 3 жыл бұрын
You can still see the converted Catholics who escaped Goa and settled in the coastal belt of Karnataka speak Konkani unlike other Catholics in Karnataka and most of them have the Portuguese sur names (some still have hindu sur names like Prabhu, Kamath) And the Hindus who didn't want to be converted to Christianity and escaped Goa speak Konkani as well.
@Suresh_Kamath
@Suresh_Kamath 2 жыл бұрын
Most Kamaths and prabhus are still Hindus. Very few of them are catholic.
@ranjitrajan6932
@ranjitrajan6932 4 жыл бұрын
I am curious about learning more about Judaism in India, any links?
@OddCompass
@OddCompass 4 жыл бұрын
Sure! There's an excellent summary here: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/india-virtual-jewish-history-tour
@ranjitrajan6932
@ranjitrajan6932 3 жыл бұрын
@@OddCompass Thank you very much!!
@dhruva_tara
@dhruva_tara 3 жыл бұрын
@Kaalbhairav he just means it out of curiosity. General Jacob was a Jewish
@suriyanikkaran
@suriyanikkaran 3 жыл бұрын
The Nasranis branched from 500 Jewish families to whom Mar Thoma preached (the Brahmin story was fabricated by the Portuguese, historically there were no Brahmins in Malabar/Kerala region in 1st Century CE), this community was here from the time of king Shlomo. We were emigrants who came from Israel and later from Assyria and Babylon. King Shlomo even had a Keralite wife! The ivory for his throne was from here, the gems for the Temple was from here and that's how we ended up in Kerala. After Jesus told to visit only the Israeli diaspora (Matthew 10:5,15:24), Mar Thoma came to the diaspora community in Kerala while Barthelomai went to the Assyrian Jews in China (Keifeng Jews, Bnei Manashe Jews). That's when the Jewish community had a new sect of people who believed that someone was a messiah. The new denomination kept all. Jewish practices and customs and was essentially Jewish. That's the beginning of the Malankara Sabha, a Judeo-Christian community run by elders. After this, in 345 CE Knanaya Thoman and a few families from Assyria migrated, they were Jewish Christians. In 9th century CE, Marwan Sapir and 400 Jewish and Judeo-Christian families migrated from Assyria to Kollam, that's where my family is from! This community too was very Jewish, there were Nestorians too. In all, all these communities be it Christian or Jewish all practiced Judaism and Halakha. In 1400s the Nestorian church had official links to Kerala. In 1505 the Portuguese of cursed memory reached here. They banned the Jews of Kollam, we faced much oppression. Especially as we had governance of all lands between the sea and the backwaters of Kollam as given to us by the Venad kings, we became their target as we were in power and because we were Jewish. In 1624, a group of Ethiopian Jews came to Kollam, fearing the Portuguese they sought refuge to the rani who advised them to disguise as native Ezhavas... The Portuguese didn't go that soon and they lost their identity and to this day remains Ezhava. As for the Jews and Judeo-Christians of Kollam, our synagogues were made churches. We faced a lot of oppression. All that remains of us is the Tharishapally Copperplates and the traditions passed to us by our forefathers. The Synod of Daimper banned Christians from practicing Judaism. The Kochi king gave protection to the Jews there which is why we still have Jews in Kochi! Between, the Spanish/Portuguese community of Paradesi Jews also came in the 16th century. Venad was later conquered by Travancore in 1700s. We still don't know what happened to the Jews of Kayamkulam and a few other communities. We don't know what wiped out the Jewish history of Kollam which was a big city built by Jews, a community Marco Polo, Ibn Battuta and many others hailed of. That's 3000 years of history in a nutshell. We have a lot more, like building the Temple at Paravur which ended in chaos, the oppression by Tippu Sultan. The oppression by Velu Thampi Delawa.... A lot, this is a history in nutshell. This is primarily about the Jewish community in Kerala. The Mumbai Jews also share the Assyrian emigration history, their ship wrecked at Mumbai. 20th century events in Iraq led the Sasoons and Kaduris to migrate to. Mumbai.
@portugallusitanocelta7120
@portugallusitanocelta7120 3 жыл бұрын
🥱
@innigaadu
@innigaadu 2 жыл бұрын
You earned my respect by explaining Predatory nature of Portuguese and how they tortured and converted natives to christianity and why now christianity became major religion in Goa. Unfortunately this is considered controversial and no one wishes to speak about this
@feastguy101
@feastguy101 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s because the Hindus have shown that they don’t have any problem persecuting other faiths too.
@vik24oct1991
@vik24oct1991 11 ай бұрын
@@feastguy101 when did hindus enter portugal and persecute people there, this is typical invader mindset of christians and muslims, all the problem hindus have with them are due to things like shown in the video.
@Tuathadana
@Tuathadana 2 жыл бұрын
All my Sanatanis and freedom loving people say with me "Never again!!"
@Ghoste_7
@Ghoste_7 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing. I never fully understood my family’s origins & to hear this makes so much sense. Wow.
@senakaweeraratna741
@senakaweeraratna741 2 жыл бұрын
The Portuguese Inquisition in Ceylon was conducted by the very same Portuguese Inquisitors who had arrived in Ceylon to spread their religion via peaceful means failing which by brutal use of the sword.
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