BMW F450 GS: The Future of Affordable Adventure Bikes?

[@gordonsmithsa115]

Very nice, parallel twin 450, this could be the unicorn we have been waiting for…

[@HRAZZI]

It's the only BMW motorcycle I would consider buying, in my entire 20 years of riding career. light, not bloated, and hopefully competitively priced.

[@MrSi73]

What do you do for a ‘riding career’ that would make you want this bike out of interest.

[@svenhodaka9145]

My old GS1200 is pretty nice to ride. 😁

[@mark.e.p]

​@MrSi73 Guess he doesn't want a 500lb bloater 😅

[@keithavery7087]

Depends what you want, my S1000XR is an amazing ride

[@R1Willem]

Looks amazing!

[@thatbikersimon]

It does!

[@mechcavandy986]

I want one. This is all I need to know! 🏍️💨🏁

[@lincolnkaden7758]

I’ll buy one if they make it with a 21” front wheel.

[@TylerG7777]

Absolutely looks amazing! I already have 3 bikes, but how can I not get this one!? I can't wait to hear the rider reviews!

[@thatbikersimon]

You and me both! 👍

[@Hans_P]

Got my name on a wait list!

[@RichardS-qh8mi]

Would love one yesterday!😍

[@thatbikersimon]

@@RichardS-qh8mi I get the feeling these are going to sell well. 🤔🏍️💨💨💨

[@RichardS-qh8mi]

@ Was set on a 450MT but this has made me hang fire…I’ll try both and then decide.

[@thatbikersimon]

@ that’s the best option for Richard. Try before you buy. 👍

[@rjmockett]

Nice video Simon . The G650 cross challenge was a great bike back in 2007 , great off road and on . Shame it had a short production run . This looks great and probably affordable

[@thatbikersimon]

Absolutely, what a nice bike. It’s starting to get competitive in this range. I can’t wait to have a ride on one.

[@zorrotreps]

I do miss my X-Challenge. Although heavier, this could be a great replacement.

[@mark.e.p]

I have an XCountry. 350lbs, 52 HP

[@Rommmig]

Hello i think with a good equipment, keyless ride, tire pressure control, handguards 10000 Euro Plus shipimg 500 Euro.Greetimgs from Germany

[@davidmallia628]

A winner, if the price is right. Please provide a model with 21 inch, 18 inch combo, also.

[@jlhogan54]

If the price is right, bmw? Dream on!

[@ironhorsehero1988]

I’d like to see all manufacturers produce bikes with a purposeful front mudguard, currently only Royal Enfield make a mudguard that will prevent the engine and header pipes from getting covered in stone chips should you venture off road. Given the state of UK roads, having something more useful would be a good idea for normal road bikes.

[@Mark-dd2nh]

Looks like a fun bike, love to take for a trial ride. I don't really think BMW is concerned about the pricing of the Himalayan 450 or Triumph 400x. They will view themselves above those brands in every respect and charge a BMW premium as they usually do. I suspect this bike will be priced same price as the Tenere 700

[@kmetmosnja6341]

Lol , then they can bury it straigt away. That bike should be max 7-8k€ . Ktm 690 can carry it in teeth , with performance and same weight... In the era of to many bikes choices and finally saturated market BMW should be happy to keep afloat and they will be able to that only by being competitive . Price of tenere with this HP output is not competitive ...

[@tsoupakis]

Can anyone else notice how good if a super moto this will be

[@DedekMartin]

Exactly my thoughts! 😀

[@aquapoolko]

My BMW f650gs twin 800cc from 2010 y weight 199 on wet. -9 kg difference with this power doesn't look like "wow" effect. Same size of the tires, much higher 82.5cm vs 88cm? No passenger seat.. So what makes this bike better than my old bike from year 2010? Big TFT screen, better look? I hope the final version will propose something better than this..

[@martynlaverick3405]

Love it!

[@thatbikersimon]

Me too! I can’t wait to try it out 👍

[@adadcalledbarry]

I have a new f900gs and even i'm looking with interest at this bike. I want to remain part of the BMW GS community (to do Safari's etc) and i'm always thinking lighter is better as i'm more offroad and light enduro focussed rather than banging out big distances in the outback etc ... i think this bike will really attract a new cohort of BMW riders who also want to be part of that ... plus in Aus we get a 5 year comprehensive warranty which is piece of mind etc ... yes it will cost more than all the other 450's ...but thats going to be the case for premium brands for a while yet as the industry goes through significant change ... i was actually waiting for speculated r12gs to appear (and it didnt) and this one just came out of nowhere ...

[@DaveZee01]

I haven't finished watching this video yet but what's the difference in weight between your 900 and this 450? I think you're sitting with one of THE best adventure bikes on the planet at the moment!

[@johnterry804]

As it is looks awesome! But will it look same if it comes to production? And price will be important in busy market? Hope so !!

[@thatbikersimon]

I think what you see is possible what there going to deliver. Price is important so maybe KTM and BMW are head to toe on this one. What’s your guess John?

[@johnterry804]

@ not sure but if price is under 7 k it be a great seller

[@thatbikersimon]

@ who knows John, I’m Going for 8K depending on the brembo brakes and what suspension is fitted.

[@johnterry804]

@ we have to wait whatever I like to test ride it!

[@thatbikersimon]

@ 👍

[@nialbarnsley4108]

Funny how every manufacturer do amazing looking concept bikes. Then when they release it they all look like 💩

[@adadcalledbarry]

this one wont

[@michaelgarcia8293]

When will we know if it’s in regular production???

[@thatbikersimon]

Early next year I believe

[@Whatreally123]

Im indian and this will be manufactured by our motorcycle company called TVS woth whom BMW have a parternship. The current bmw G310 GS and its road version are made by TVS. The G310 GS sat between the old himalayan 411 and tlcloae to the ktm 390 adv. This will definitely be pricier than a himalayan 450 but maybe similarly priced as the upcoming ktm 390 adv. The first bike i really am interested from BMW. Even the new F900 GS. These two look sleek and lightweight than the bigger behemoths.

[@Trackandshield]

💩💩💩🤡🤡🤡

[@KeepitReal-x6g]

oh no. Anyway, can you point me to the nearest desginated street?

[@SangramPradhan-p7k]

The ex showroom price should be around 4,10,000 INR then i m definitely going for it.

[@Hans_P]

Hopefully it will be priced below the Aprillia Tuareg ( my other choice for my next bike ).

[@thatbikersimon]

I would like to think so.

[@localresident7826]

Those radiator shrouds are almost like wings.

[@Youtube_Globetrotter]

This and the new KTM 390 Adventure R looks real promising for test ride as soon as it's possible.

[@davidmatthews3093]

If it’s a concept bike isn’t it a contradiction to say that it is ready to go into production in 2025? I don’t think that bike, if it does ever make it into the showrooms, will ever be in the same sector of the marketplace as bikes like the 450 Himalayan so is it fair to call it a competitor? If it does get made it will no doubt be more desirable than anything in the current BMW lineup to adventure riders who want a light compact motorcycle that is useable off the tarmac and gravel tracks but it will come at a premium price. Before anyone gets carried away let’s remember that it’s a concept not a pre-production model.

[@thatbikersimon]

You raise a valid point-concept bikes often represent a vision rather than a production-ready product. However, manufacturers sometimes use the term “concept” loosely, especially if the bike is close to being finalized for production. If this bike is genuinely set for 2025 production, it might be more refined than your typical concept. As for being a competitor to the Himalayan 450, I agree they’re likely targeting different segments. The Himalayan focuses on affordability and rugged simplicity, whereas this bike might appeal to riders willing to pay more for advanced tech and premium features. If it does get produced, I think its higher price point and likely spec will place it in a niche that prioritizes performance and desirability over the Himalayan’s utilitarian ethos. You’re right, though-it’s important to temper expectations. Until we see an actual preproduction model or detailed specs, it’s still very much a “what if” scenario.

[@mark.e.p]

My brother in law works for BMW and it's more than concept bike. Remember the RE 450 spy test bike?

[@saikumarnaik1581]

Price plz 🙏🏻

[@nappa4317]

If the production bike is remotely close to this. It will likely stomp the Himalayan. As it stands, it is 40 lbs lighter as a twin. Comparing this to the Himalayan is like comparing a KLR to a DR650. That is not a good comparison. Overall its intriguing.

[@ekimandersom4478]

@@nappa4317Depends on price

[@peter3994]

It’s a winner, though I doubt it will due to its inevitable BMW price tag. Shame as it is beautiful.

[@ely-t4o]

is it a single seater? I think the seat is just too short for two riders

[@thatbikersimon]

I think it might have a 2 seat option

[@zorrotreps]

I want one..!

[@thatbikersimon]

Me to! 🏍️💨💨💨💨

[@KirkAnderson-l3i]

Good looking bike, one hopes BMW sticks to the design brief. 21 inch front would be preferable for many. BMW stick to the KISS PRINCIPLE with this bike.

[@chadkline4268]

Sound is not something to engineer for. I'd rather have 360degs for even forces applied by both cyls. The power stroke should equate to the intake stroke of the other cylinder. Power+intake Exhaust+compression Intake+power Compression+exhaust Symmetry.

[@lifesjourneyat50]

Good review...personally...needs a 21/18 set up...better suspension out the box like the F900....engine could be a little more powerful...again BMW leaning more street than off road for a bike like this....

[@johnnylong2049]

I’m hoping prices won’t be more than $8000

[@jirihusek7750]

Yeh, but it will be more... in my opinion it will be $9.000 - $10.000, new technology, new engine... we will see...

[@OntarioAndrews415]

This is what I think BMW should do: This should replace the rather aging G310R and G310GS Make this concept a F450GSA Then bring out a F450GS with a lower chasis, street tires, a lower exhaust, cast wheels with spokes as an option

[@thatbikersimon]

I couldn’t agree more

[@saikumarnaik1581]

Price plz bro

[@frankhumphrey6402]

Wish they had made a 450 with boxer engine and shaft drive, that I would buy👌

[@motolover5697]

for what price? ;)

[@jimh2061]

Let's not forget BMW no longer offers a manual to work on these newer bikes yourself. You must take it in to the dealer. Guarantee that bike will be a couple thousand more than the competition. Probably 9k

[@lamontrenschler2465]

This has got to be the the best looking adventure bike I've ever seen. However, (unless they change it) having no adjustability on the front is absolutely nonsensical for such a premium bike. Since its obviously more offroad capable compared to their other bikes, it would be nice to see more suspension travel, ground clearance and more protection on the belly.

[@thatbikersimon]

Well this is a concept bike so they might just change it up a bit before launch, but yes is a fine line if keeping the price down and having some premium parts. I also would like to see a 21in front wheel and adjustable suspension.

[@lamontrenschler2465]

Yes, I too hope they have the 21 inch. It will add more ground clearance, too.

[@AlexAugustinex]

Dont get too excited, if these make it to production these are gonna come out against NX500, TRK 502 etc. and they sell for 7-8L on-road. Will be double the price of the Himalayan easily since its a parallel twin and 'BMW'. They wont let you work on it yourself so expect a hefty service bill too. They have to bring normal seats like the other GS's or it will not sell in places like India where the priority is more touring than hardcore motocross. I dont think it will be manufactured by TVS since this seems to be 100% made by BMW inhouse, no collaboration. In India prices should be 8-10L On-Road.

[@chadkline4268]

I think you will be able to work on it, but you might need that little 911GS computer interface.

[@Bikegirl2022]

So excited for this… can we get a 450 Multistrada next please! 😂🏍️

[@thatbikersimon]

Interesting, it would be nice to see Ducati do it, They will have there 450 enduro bike soon

[@chrishart8548]

A 450cc v-twin would be nice.

[@thatbikersimon]

@ I can’t see that happening but this might have a nice amount of torque with that 125 degree firing order on the engine. 🏍️💨💨💨💨💨

[@chrishart8548]

@thatbikersimon it's a really small engine for a twin it will have very little torque. That's the biggest downfall of smaller capacity engines.

[@thatbikersimon]

@ but on the plus side you can full throttle it. It’s probably still more that the average rider needs when off road riding.

[@johnharvey5338]

I bet the engine will be made by Loncin who make the 900 twin for them, price will be everything and not to expensive, do like the look, my friend Sami they want to see the roadster version an it will be used in a number of models GS, R and maybe an XR.

[@thatbikersimon]

Your probably right, the smaller bikes have to keep the costs down and the possibility are endless if the platform works. Exciting times for BMW

[@Millicente]

I just hope this thing isn’t so expensive that you’re paying the same price for this as a 600-700 cc bike from other manufacturers

[@thatbikersimon]

I think they will need to stay competitive on the price, there’s a lot of competition now in this sector.

[@Richard-pe4cx]

BMW and affordability not two words that seem to run together but you pays your money if you can afford it and takes your choice

[@motolover5697]

Check the price of a G310GS.

[@mark.e.p]

19" front wheel though???

[@thatbikersimon]

Yes, But it’s still a concept bike, theres talk of cast wheels so maybe 2 versions 21in spoked would sit nice to a cast 19in.

[@nomadprratt3924]

That massive winglet is surely coming off😅 can keep smashing that off road. Good for tech. Cfmoto 450mt is a better deal unless you look to yap about ' i got a BeeeeM GS bro'

[@adamlivelife2608]

I’ll buy one if it’s under 15k Canadian

[@brianjmt5213]

Looks great best I have seen. But they will screw it up with the price. If this is sub 7k I will own one but if its more Ill just get the cf moto. These companies have got to get over ripping people off! CF Moto is doing a great job in quality and price if they can so can everyone else. They all buy the same parts from the same companies.

[@michaelangelo9572]

It will never compete off-road with a KTM without a 21-inch front wheel I've been riding BMWs for over 30 years and they just can't hit the mark when it comes to True off-road Adventure

[@nappa4317]

BMW stated the 175 kg is regulation weight, then said yes wet weight. This was stated in interviews. So it seems promising.

[@thatbikersimon]

So many different versions of wet weight, I don’t think that would include fuel

[@nappa4317]

​@@thatbikersimon I highly doubt that, but the point is moot. Its the concept bike, who knows what is missing for a production model.

[@bbadgeruk1]

As muh as i want one because it looks and sounds like the perfect package.....if a 310GS is £6k RRP / 900GS £12k all before any addons..... then this will be competing against bigger better equiped bikes if not more expensive which is a shame. Ill still be first in line to test ride though 😂

[@thatbikersimon]

I think it will sit in between those prices, I recon about 8.5K but it will depend on what premium bits they put on.

[@glennmorrissey2529]

CF Moto 450 really is difficult to beat at the pricepoint.

[@adadcalledbarry]

yes - but this is BMW not CF so premium will always be there ... not saying its better - it is what it is

[@glennmorrissey2529]

@@adadcalledbarry it's already started Barry, CF Moto making the big brands rethink what they are up and PERHAPS even listen to their customers, Ole!

[@chadkline4268]

It's not so simple as price+numbers. It's service+sales centers, spare parts + availability, and the number of years of support.

[@mathshashidhar]

Where is the headlamp, I see only led DRLs and GS logo, don't tell me that's the headlight 😂

[@thatbikersimon]

yes that's the similar X design on the bigger r1300gs

[@MrSi73]

@@thatbikersimonbut the bigger GS actually has a light in the centre not just DRL

[@thatbikersimon]

@@MrSi73 I think what you see is probably what you’ll get, it will obviously have to comply to be road legal.

[@slakk5093]

From what I’ve heard expect it to be around 10-12k

[@thatbikersimon]

I’m thinking 8.5K gbp I guess it depends on what premium parts they bolt on

[@motolover5697]

Where did you hear it?

[@simonclare-fu7sx]

looks the billies🍒

[@thatbikersimon]

It sure does! 👍🏍️💨💨💨💨

[@chrislecouteur2360]

Looks like the cfmoto 450 apart from the front light 😅

[@christinewilson154]

Too little too late, I think. The 2 main competitors RE Himalayan 450 & CF Moto MT450 both have 21” front & both have sub 830mm seat heights with free or relatively cheap options to lower to 800 or increase to 870mm I think BMW are resting on their reputation a little too much especially when the competition are sub 6.5k & this will probably come in beyond 7.5k

[@appymarley]

I think this will come to market they have gone to the trouble of designing and producing a running engine they have woken up to the fact less is more for the ageing bike rider..will it be affordable I doubt it and hopefully it will be built better than the 310 which is pretty poor...

[@straightup1234]

I'm really excited about this bike after seeing @ nec . If manufacturers don't start selling more 450cc or smaller @ better price point in harder times, the industry will get worse.

[@LeeSlade-h2y]

I was all in until he said 190kgs !!!

[@thatbikersimon]

Most 450 adventurer bike are about that weight fully fuelled

[@LeeSlade-h2y]

@@thatbikersimon I’ll stick with my ktm690 at 160kgs then. I don’t understand how adding the word adventure to a 450 makes them so heavy ? When a 450 exc is only 110 kgs

[@jasonmurphy1424]

I have to admit it’s one of the nicest looking bikes bmw have developed it will be interesting to see the asking price if it goes into production

[@thatbikersimon]

I think BMW have definitely filled a gap with this bike and hopefully the price will be affordable for most bikers

[@Peerbabakpk]

Over due

[@wonkywheels103]

it took cfmoto 450 to wake these big bike builders up.

[@ferkuzuel]

👍👍👍👍

[@gamer_slayer_97]

Come to India 😢

[@thatbikersimon]

I think it probably will

[@IRLtrolls]

Is that a 19in front? Hard to tell but if so that’s so dumb

[@thatbikersimon]

Yes it’s a 19in

[@IRLtrolls]

@ wack

[@craigh2299]

Seen it myself friday but as good and mean as it looks it didnt look comfortable for Touring in the slightest.

[@mark.e.p]

Really? That's a pity. You gotta think what market are BMW aiming for?

[@thatbikersimon]

I think BMW are just trying to fill that gap with this bike on the lower engine capacity market. I think with Bmw‘s selection of accessories there will probably be many seat options to choose from. Lets wait and see.

[@matthewbinns2358]

You used BMW and affordable in the same sentence!

[@georgeshaw1426]

Sear height too high for half the population

[@thatbikersimon]

I’m sure there be more seat options.

[@brnin1977]

This buayik😂

[@Klootviooltje]

This will cost way too much for sure

[@JohnConnor-t8q]

The internet is spending a lot of time on a bike that does not exist.

[@Wowophed]

With rally pack 10,000 😂😂😂

[@thatbikersimon]

I think it wil be slightly less.

[@jbenn43457]

As usual, the seat will be too high.

[@thatbikersimon]

It’s hard to say, it looks like it’s got a 19” front wheel so perhaps not.

[@elifelif777]

Too heavy

[@thatbikersimon]

The proof will be in the pudding. The question is! Is it well balanced? Where does the weight sit. Some sub 200kg bikes weight is a lot less then others. The ride will be the true test 👍

[@howardp924]

Those radiators won't even make it past the first Starbucks tip over.

[@Amar001-u2f]

Give it to me just give it to me I ll pay any amount

[@thatbikersimon]

lol

[@Amar001-u2f]

😂 have a good day man

[@MrMAKFoto]

Ugly duck beak design is so overrated and mindless crowd is just madly following brand.

[@stevenharris7788]

Why you talking like that 😂

[@thatbikersimon]

Why you taking that that 😂

[@takeshikusao4674]

BMW. Affordable. LOL.

[@BikinBoi]

Your video is so late to the party Aunt. All you did was spout useless facts that I can find on the internet. I think everyone who's looking at this bike just wants to know what the cost is

[@thatbikersimon]

It can’t be late it’s not in production yet. 8.5K

[@BikinBoi]

@thatbikersimon 8.5k what? Cad? USD? It's late to the party because there's many vids of people even being there with the sound of the engine as well as talking to the engineer. You're video is late and totally a waste of my time.

[@666dualsport]

it will be bmw prices and that will limit sales

[@thatbikersimon]

Let wait and see

[@motolover5697]

It doesn't look that the price of an R1300GS is a problem for buyers.