The Strange Case of Kari Baker

Kari Baker and her husband, Matt Baker the preacher, were living happily in Waco, Texas. However, the family would endure tragedy, with it being too much for poor Kari Baker. Or at least that is what Matt would say, and seem to move on pretty quickly. Her family disagreed.
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[@danifacee]

'I've had a vasectomy and got no STD's' is the worst pick up line I've ever heard. And it worked on her!

[@rog2224]

I thought '"The silver tongued cavalier"

[@Lindayxx]

Right, like she fell for that line? yikes

[@sega62s]

no wonder why she is dead….🤷🏻

[@FTsingos]

he was a pastor...or was he a minister? Anyways, it's amazing how much leeway people allow "religious people." Plus, this guy was a shameless predator. If you keep hitting on thousands of women, you'll find one that doesn't mind your creepiness. Law of averages.

[@principlemethods5281]

Lol I know

[@vegemitesandwich81]

NO mother kills themselves, naked, with their young children in the house. A typed letter? A husband calling 911 like hes ordering pizza? A mistress who knew ALL that information? Shame on them.

[@mariebernier3076]

Excellent summary.

[@t.b.5115]

Ex paramedic here, this case might be murder but suicides can be truly bizarre and I have attended calls far worse than this. One mother hung herself in front of her kids, that was a pretty bad night.

[@janycebrown4071]

Exactly 👌

[@Tracymmo]

@@t.b.5115 That's horrifying

[@Tracymmo]

@@t.b.5115 And i'm sure you recognized the casual conversation one has while doing chest compressions. (eyeroll)

[@alfred4600]

I love how the mistress is dissing his game but still went for it.

[@gabbyjim8943]

The only reason the mistress gave him up was because she saw the heat he was starting to get from the private investigation, and she knew if they started digging deeper she was going to be linked and held accountable for at least knowing about it! It wouldn’t surprise me if she actually had part in the planning of the murder! No way in hell that you can still have relations with a person who committed such a terrible crime if they aren’t at least okay with the idea!

[@mustangnawt1]

His mistress is a real piece of work. She could have saved her life. Hope she goes in right along with him

[@AlcoholicBoredom]

My guess is that they offered her immunity for her testimony. That’s pretty standard, especially since technically she didn’t _actively_ participate in any way. That said, she’s garbage.

[@samanthablount139]

Facts

[@blahblah4248]

I agree if she knew ahead of time. I've watched this story on a couple different shows an I believe she was informed after the fact. Not that she's not a disgusting human just for the fact she's banging the married pastor. But I'm not convinced she knew he was gonna kill her. Oh Im sure he said all kinds of hateful things about his wife but don't think she was told I'm gonna kill her ... Thinking she was told after the fact that Ya I did this all for you an our love... Or something along those lines of Bullshit!!

[@naus6081]

She might have immunity now but wild guess there’s probably a place in hell for her.

[@sunshine3914]

Would you run to that PD when they didn’t even suspect the guy? After all he was a minister, & evidently his wife didn’t take his shenanigans seriously when she found out about them. Highly unlikely the PD would wish to walk back on their initial findings, especially since they wouldn’t listen to victim’s family.

[@ang_ro]

Can you imagine having the temerity to play the victim after you slept with a married man, did nothing to stop him from murdering his wife, knew he did it, then continued to be with him afterward... Unreal. They are both malignant narcissists.

[@lunaportia989]

I know right! She is probably busy with just another married man now, and will continue to go through the line!

[@hypnocilicdreams]

"temerity", ooh. nice word. stealing that to use for myself! Thanks articulate stranger! Happy youtubing :)

[@PaddyLeggBass]

Exactly! She was a part of it without doubt, but she turned on him to save her skin. Horrible woman 😖

[@PaddyLeggBass]

CPOrrrrr.. 😂

[@reignman30]

Not to mention how many killers attempt to kill the next lover once they get away with the first. Especially if they know about the first xD.

[@luckystarship2275]

Kari's parents were heroic in their determination to see justice done for their daughter. I hope it is some consolation for her surviving daughter to know how much her mother was loved by her parents that they refused to give up and did the police's job for them.

[@revengeneutral8164]

Vanessa: (paraphrased of course) My married pastor was such a creep when he first approached me for an affair. It was disgusting. Also Vanessa: So after I started having an affair with my married pastor. This is what zero character, zero sense, and zero accountability looks like.

[@User31129]

While you're correct, humans are humans, male or female. People say men don't always think with the organ between their ears, they think with a different organ. Well, women can be guilty of the same sometimes.

[@combatduckie]

true, she s as trashy as him

[@Bella-wj7kf]

I thought the same thing! Vanessa thought he was a creeper (which she was right!), but she still went on to have an affair with him, knowing he was married?? Vanessa also never said anything about the pastor plotting to kills his wife? They are both disgusting human beings!

[@TallulahFoxxx]

@@User31129 firstly the original comment didn’t make any mention of it being a female or male issue 😂 Secondly, although it’s technically true what you’re saying, this wasn’t that case. Vanessa is younger and way more attractive than he is. It’s highly doubtful she was just desperate for sex 🙄😂 In extremely broad and general terms (I have a psych degree), women cheat/look for partners with different reasons in mind than men 🤔 While there are always exceptions - many of them - in general, women tend to look for security, love and positive attention - sex is usually not the main (nor sole) reason. She was recently divorced and probably felt lonely and vulnerable. Many divorcees think “no one will ever want me now I’m this age and I have kids”. He was older, he was a pastor (so he had a good standing in the community), and he was infatuated with her 🤔 That’s very flattering to someone in her position. It’s one of the reasons why we say so many cases of younger women with older men - psychologically speaking, it’s about stability, security and older men tend to worship young, hot women. You feel adored and special while being secure knowing he won’t leave you (because he’s so infatuated) 🤔 It’s not always on a conscious level. As I say, of course there are lots of exceptions to this and it’s a very general analysis, but the point is, in this case, she wasn’t with him purely for sexual reasons 😂🤷‍♀️ Men typically can separate sex and love much more easily than women (again, broadly speaking). While men can just get what they’re looking for and walk away, for women, there’s an emotional element that makes it harder (and for the last time, before anyone jumps down my throat, there are of course exceptions. I’m talking from a psychological perspective that has been studied for a very long time at length lol).

[@DavidBrown-dd2je]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 exactly

[@alcioned1]

Vanessa needs to go to jail too. Her comment in the police interview - "this is messing up my schedule" spoke volumes. She knew !!

[@eugeniaskelley5194]

Yah, a woman was dead and she was worried about her schedule. Before it even got to this point she should of gone to the police. She could of saved that poor woman from being killed.

[@Heathcoatman]

Yeah, poor thing had the police take her away from her busy schedule, just because her boyfriend murdered his wife

[@jameswyman3973]

She was just fine with it until they got caught.

[@chasetower6773]

😂😂🤣🤣😂🙄🤡

[@marys3127]

I have consistently found that women who sleep with married men have no empathy, therefore they don’t care about whoever gets hurt or murdered. Of course, right? No empathy means they cannot put themselves in the wife’s position to begin with, which is why they begin the affair in the first place. These people are damaged emotionally and mentally.

[@kellyryan6492]

I love how he threw in a compliment to himself in the "suicide note". What a POS!

[@brazenlilhussy5975]

Was just listening to that part when I read your comment. Typical narcissist 'imma sleep now..you keep doing you, rockstar' 🤯..like wtf?

[@missiecombs4807]

Right?!

[@bakeddulce5451]

That was such a red flag plus women don't usually kill themselves in the nude.

[@missiecombs4807]

@@bakeddulce5451 that's exactly what I said!!

[@taras6806]

@@bakeddulce5451 Too right - though also women don't 'usually' kill themselves at all - and nor did this one.

[@jonslg240]

The 911 call proving he wasn't doing CPR on her really sealed the deal. I can't believe they didn't do an autopsy on a suicide OD. All non natural deaths should have a thorough investigation and autopsy.

[@doom4067]

They had a typed, unsigned note. What more could they need?

[@peternolan4107]

Investigation? Autopsy? Not in Texas.

[@lisahinton9682]

19:00 So.. the girlfriend, Vanessa Bulls, has approximately three weeks' worth of conversations with him about how to kill his wife and she doesn't bother to go to the police. I swear, I wish there were laws to punish people like her. She's loving her time in court so she can tell on him, but she's also telling on herself. Listen to all those details! She had *multiple* chances to go to the police. Shame on Vanessa Bulls.

[@cdes1776]

Obstruction of justice?

[@martinboyle9163]

If it's any consolation, I doubt she's on facebook and has to use a fake name if she ever wants to try out a dating site. I wouldn't touch her with a ten-inch pole. She's clearly mentally ill and will have to explain her actions to The Almighty if she truly believes there is an afterlife.

[@jodybriggs1075]

love how the mistress was on the stand describing Matt's incredibly greasy Vasectomy/STD come on like it was the creepiest, most inappropriate thing she'd ever heard. Only to end with; "So then we started having an affair". Classy girl.

[@mavenofmacau6391]

Indeed. Absolutely sickening.

[@MontagZoso]

Yeah, her John Deere shirt…real classy, girl! 🤮

[@jeannievail]

She was all good with his murder plot and even continued sleeping with him afterward. She's just as guilty for knowingly allowing it to happen. She only ratted after she knew she was going down as his accomplice.

[@benbunyip]

@@jeannievail I wonder when it is under the law when knowledge of a crime becomes aiding and abetting a crime.🤨

[@reignman30]

Lol I know, I'm sitting here thinking, wait, it worked on you though. I have a feeling there's a different version to that story.

[@davidaston8029]

I'll never understand how divorce is a no-no but murder sure. Just friggin leave them.

[@immaleaf4964]

Divorce is more of a hassle, and murder shuts the chapter on things. Saying divorce is always wrong and so now go murder is just an excuse for weak people like that guy

[@LotsofLisa]

Why pay for divorce and lose half of everything including the kids, when killing the spouse leaves you with everything and probably a nice life insurance payout to boot?…

[@damagecontrol7]

you have to be cocky enough to think you'll get away with it "no one will ever figure out my master plan!"

[@Steampunkkids]

I believe in certain religions, being a divorced “holy man” is worst than being a murderer.

[@texaspearl8957]

Pretty soon there will be need for divorce attorney”s .

[@Upintheclouds94]

I love how Kari's family didn't stop until they found out the truth. As heartbreaking as it is, that monsters in jail. God bless. 🕊️ Rip Kari, your with your darling Angel and condolences to her family and friends. 🕊️ May your children's futures be bright and beautiful. 🌼

[@karencramer6491]

17:46 on . . . . Is it just me or has a witness never been so excited about telling everyone what she knew? And she thinks she was manipulated??? She was pretty excited about manipulating the jury to believe her story. So many evil details.

[@tainkirrahe]

"He couldn't stand how much weight she had gained" meanwhile he looked like a potato that had bumped its way down several sets of basement steps.

[@jenniferruth812]

😂

[@OliviaDavis452]

😂😂🥔

[@ProgressiveDemLib]

😂😂😂

[@smolmom]

Honestly, the mistress looked kinda chunky too. I thought he was a chubby chaser.

[@alicekranyk4173]

@@smolmom She just needed to tone up, she wasn’t really heavy.

[@chinchillahats4907]

He’s upset she “got fat” yet this man has always looked like a toe.

[@Karenanneseven]

Looked like a toe 🤣🤣🤣

[@Karenanneseven]

@Cheek Chaser where does look like a toe mean fat???

[@georgedoughly8682]

Exactly. It’s okay for him to be a homely fat ass though….totally acceptable.

[@georgedoughly8682]

@@Karenanneseven Matt’s face looks like a toe.

[@Karenanneseven]

@@georgedoughly8682 of course. I had a blonde moment 💁‍♀️

[@chuckschillingvideos]

"I have a vasectomy and don't have any STD's" That's the kind of poetry that sweeps every woman off her feet.

[@HeavYMetaLSlave4U]

The "Hand gesture" killed me...... 😂 Love your sense of humor, Mike!!!

[@damatan1na]

okay here’s my problem with this Vanessa person: she clearly knew EVERY SINGLE DETAIL about the crime he committed yet she kept quiet about it, only spoke up after he got caught. Also, if he spoke about killing his wife so many times and she stood by him what does that make her? I don’t buy the innocent vulnerable speech, she should’ve been prosecuted right along with him.

[@averyeml]

Even ignoring how trashy she is, imagine sticking with a guy who murders his wife. What do you think he’s gonna do when he tires of you???

[@justcallmerichard7596]

Yup. You can see right through her.

[@miriamllamas224]

And then he confessed to her after the murder and still does nothing?

[@ichrismoku]

I thought I must be missing some details here, how is she not in prison rn?

[@KikiSpike]

They probably offered her immunity for her testimony against him.

[@jessyjulie5506]

Hes the kind of guy who would think his wife's grieving was "inconvenient" and complains they aren't intimate. RIP Cassidy and Kari.

[@jayharvey8041]

Sounds a bit like Chris watts

[@yanifree114]

Wonder if he killed the baby..?

[@whitedragoness23]

@@yanifree114 doubtful the child was very very sick. And treatment might be limited at that age. I wouldn’t put it pass him because the child was “taking too long to die” in his mind

[@davidhollenshead4892]

The death of a child often kills the relationship. It takes a few years to finally for that process of grieving to run its course, at which point the couple might not have anything left. And of course, the pain will never go away, like a life-changing injury such as having a habitual drunk driver break your back, or having a creepy dude kill your daughter, the pain will always be there... I suspect that Matt was the one who lost interest in her, however. He seemed to place physical lust over having something deeper...

[@KillerQueensRyche]

@@yanifree114 especially since he was the one to walk in and 'discover' the baby not breathing

[@kandreasworld4374]

The mistress is completely innocent here. She knew he was planning the murder, he told her after he committed the murder and she broke up with him because they suspected him of murder but never once went to the cops. A real saint, this one here.

[@cheepymcpeepy]

Vanessa sounds like she was on-site, very detailed memory for someone getting second-hand stories

[@whomee2]

I love how Vanessa acts like she did nothing wrong in this whole situation....

[@deborahsunflower939]

It was inconveniently "taking time out of her schedule"? A woman is dead bitch!

[@tanyachristensen5330]

Reprehensible person imo

[@stuff2047]

Yea she’s a real piece of work. She knew about his plan to kill her and did nothing. She could have saved her. She should feel partially responsible for Kari’s death IMO.

[@sahd0w]

She was under the thumb of someone who was very good at manipulating others. True she is not totally innocent but psychopaths and narcissists are incredibly good at manipulating and almost hypnotizing people with lies and bullshit.

[@LeeDee5]

She’s the worst kind of Karen

[@umbreonofshadows]

“Im sorry this is just taking time out of my schedule” girl really.

[@coolwomabat7897]

Accessory to murder is what she is.

[@umbreonofshadows]

@@coolwomabat7897 absolutely

[@johnmn3500]

I know right

[@sierraechopnw4228]

My first impression as well 😡

[@kristinetaulbut4975]

They are both garbage

[@shoddypockets9666]

The eldest daughter lost her baby sister and her mother.... Absolutely awful. I hope she's safe and loved after all this xxx

[@Kristyn00]

I always binge watch these videos and have to stop for my mental health and come back months later to binge watch and catch up.

[@magicdinsmore3107]

Nothing says suicide like a type written note.

[@Madeyoulooooook]

Its ridiculous right?

[@Teobi1]

That praises him for being a great Dad. Plus, I don't think people commit suicide naked.

[@magicdinsmore3107]

@Ryker Jett why the hostility? Do you have an anger problem? It's just LWD's opinion.

[@tobybarnett7147]

Exactly! A note that’s not hand written most likely isn’t a suicide

[@BrownEyedGirl1367]

@Frank Marano he seemed really put out about the 400+ compressions.

[@ann-mariepaliukenas19]

I get more anxiety in my voice ordering food, than that call to 911

[@zac3392]

😂

[@shannon275]

Seriously! That should’ve been a red flag right there.

[@VickingNickCoaching]

So true

[@LeeDee5]

Yep. Recently I called church’s for messing up my order big time and i felt like such a Karen that my Voice was shaking more than anything in that 911 call.

[@einienj3281]

True! 😁

[@lilithlives]

I have an injured foot, and Netflix, AppleTV and Hulu, all that I pay for. But, here I am, binge watching your free YT channel and I can't stop. If I had to say what I'm learning from your channel, it would be 1) the next time someone asks me why I never remarried, I will refer them to your channel, and 2) never, ever take out life insurance, or reveal who is in your Will. Also, a side, keeping an ocean between me and my American family feels more and more like a wise decision. Geez....families.

[@Nola5427]

It is so sad how two people can go from being in Love to one wanting to literally kill the other, then actually getting it done.

[@LeeDee5]

“Vanessa Bullshit without the hit.” Mike you have outdone yourself with that one.

[@britneydawn8822]

I love him 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ambercloud2776]

This one had me belly laughing

[@LovinCosmetics]

Completely

[@TD1021-]

Lmao Mike is top notch

[@kcbh24]

yeah. real impressive

[@wildnfree101]

The 911 call is a big red flag, their was no panic in his voice at all!

[@4bibimimi]

The phone demeanor of a man ordering a pizza.

[@retiredkidbuck]

Yup, I've made 911 calls in dire situations. I couldn't remember my own street address or directions on how to get there. Couldn't string two words together without stuttering.

[@Ali-kb8gr]

Exactly

[@NP-yh6nf]

@@retiredkidbuck I agree, I've always panicked and can't even get words out...

[@Beefystew101]

I feel so bad for the wife. this story mad me sad af

[@justmecorey]

how can you date someone that talks about their children’s mother like that, and they were still married. It blows my mind how any women believes they will treat you any better. She holds accountability in this as well, not telling anyone or warning or not engaging. Those children lost both parents and I hope that eats at her for the rest of both their lives

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

I blame The "I can fix him" mindset

[@constanceskalecki4928]

So not only was she okay with sleeping with her married pastor, but willing to stay after he plans his wife’s murder, and claims victim hood.

[@Puckybites]

And whines about how talking to the police is taking time out of her schedule....

[@whaghht]

Spoiler alert.

[@iamV10010]

She's a real winner, that's for sure.

[@MsSonali1980]

@@whaghht Don't go into the comment section when you haven't finished the video instead of whining in the comment section about spoilers. This is no cinematic thriller, it is about a person that actually got murdered.

[@rebeccaxo1218]

Shes annoyed the shit out of me 🙄

[@brittnyjones9146]

Him saying she was naked when he found her I’m sure was a red flag . A lot of women that commit suicide won’t do it without clothes due to the fact of not wanting to be found in that manner …

[@johnw359]

I think us men are the same. Very strange to wany to be found that way

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

I'm sure he did because he used sex and sex pills to drug her. They were effin that night with pills and booze, otc sexual aides but I'm including them here anyway lol

[@jeremiahjenkins9221]

You know this how? Did you interview the dead suicide victims and ask them yourself? Lololol

[@rockgirl1901]

I thought the same thing. Who kills themselves when they're naked

[@abemudokon9497]

A lot? So not all? So maybe, just possibly, this one was different

[@6vitamin]

If she “had trouble sleeping” and took pills regularly, she would have a high tolerance. Love when they say someone took something, to set up that it’s not abnormal that they took it and died, but no one ever brings up that tolerances to drugs you OD on build SUUUPER fast.

[@shazcon71]

His demeanour on the 911 call was the first and massive red flag for me. If I found a loved one dead, suicide or otherwise I wouldn’t be able to form sentences I don’t think. It doesn’t matter if he’s used to staying calm, he’s just a bit too calm for me

[@brali1717]

Baffles me that a woman would stay with a man who kills their wife.. you’re that brave that you wouldn’t be next?

[@eg816]

Fr !!! what tells you that he won’t get your ass next, once he gets bored

[@glamglam8347]

Like the wife waa innocenf herself. The wife stuck by her sex offender husband.

[@egregiousqueef7781]

Moral of the story: no, you cannot determine if this is "the one" from a mere 3 months of romantic-type interaction and two, you shouldn't try and commit for the long term in your 20's. The likelihood it will work is so extremely low. Wait to settle down till your 40's when all of the immature adolescent young adult values pretty much disappear.

[@koco23]

FORREAL! Same with anyone that gets involved with somebody who is spoken for then they think that person won’t turn around & cheat on them too!! Yo, they literally SHOWED you their poor character! I just can’t 😒🙄😑

[@thepanpiper7715]

To be fair, women who try to leave violent men often end up becoming targets themselves. It might have been she figured he was just venting and full of shit - talking a big game about something he'd never actually go through with (y'know, like all those people who say they're going to start a band). And then, as he's describing in painful detail how he killed his wife and the police have declared it a suicide, it hits her that he wasn't just a shallow sex-obsessed loser full of impotent rage, but was actually very fucking dangerous. On the other hand, he said he wanted to kill her because she "got fat" and called her "disgusting". She might well have thought "I'm younger and prettier, he's not gonna do anything to me".

[@MikeMac63640]

Every time Mike comes on the screen and says “hey you” my ten month old boy cracks up uncontrollably. Every time.

[@iamV10010]

Awww!

[@juliecrane9647]

You might have a future stand up comic there.

[@MikeMac63640]

@@juliecrane9647 maybe!!! 🤞

[@piva1358]

👼👼👼

[@damagecontrol7]

murder stories are great for infants! woo!

[@jessicaZep]

Mike you are absolutely the best storyteller. Let’s give it a goooo !

[@dominiquesiwulich4746]

Omg yes "finger guns to the ol 'routine'"😂 that was too cute

[@swilson5320]

Interviewed about a murder. "I don't mind talking to you guys but this is taking time out of *my* schedule" I laughed because I couldn't anticipate her saying that

[@jackselle4607]

She’s a narcissist, two peas in a pod

[@Odette321]

Everything's about herself. I wonder how many more lives she's ruined in her pursuit of a freeloading life since then.

[@jackselle4607]

At this time she was just being interviewed like anyone would including the husband… the fact she would say the when she knew detail by detail of HOW he murdered her she is directly involved

[@ruqayyahqadri8180]

@L Train45 she doesn't have to, but she knew that he'd killed her and said nothing.

[@MN-bf1me]

Oh look, it's Vanessa under her alt account "L Train45". Either that or this L Train fk is a bit daft.

[@haleygonzalez2724]

Kari looks absolutely miserable in every picture/video. It’s really heartbreaking.

[@eddiemiller2969]

"Pastor" Matt was the preacher at a church in Dallas that my wife attended. I went with her one Sunday and met "pastor" Matt. When I shook his hand, there was something about him made my skin crawl. One creepy individual. When we heard he had murdered his wife, I was shocked, but not surprised. His wife was a very nice lady and sure deserved better. May she rest in peace.

[@flej01]

Guilty as furk, religon is a slippery slope when so many have used it to hide behind. RIP Kari

[@Malcolmblacc]

The fact she literally knew all this and wasn’t gonna say anything shows what kinda person she is tbh

[@eugeniaskelley5194]

Yah, I didn't quite get all of that. She said he was talking about killing his wife and the ways to do it. She ends up dead, and it didn't even occur to her to maybe go talk to the police after she is found dead.

[@afcaton1]

Because she's more than likely lying. If not, she should be serving the same time as he is as an accessory. She's just as guilty.

[@lolawants2008]

@@afcaton1 I’m sure she got immunity for her testimony. There’s literally no upside for her in telling this story if it’s a lie. And Mike did say there were emails that back some of it up.

[@bonnieconzen788]

Yeah! Was the mistress ever charged with… anything? Even a fine!?

[@LifesPeachy321]

It wasn't until after she saw his true colors and it was no longer benefitting her that she turned against him and wanted him arrested! So if everything had kept going great...she would not have said a thing! *Wow! She's as shitty as he is!*

[@screamqueen1143]

The audacity to kill someone & then write yourself a note, from "them", apologizing to... you, their killer.

[@Catlady77777]

Also saying what a great dad you are.

[@TiffyVella1]

Yep it's vomitous.

[@budaluke]

"no joke, you know I don't tell jokes" haha Mike you're too funny, brotha. I'm watching some of your older stuff and I love that you haven't changed. You've just consistently been you and I feel you are one of the most genuine people on here.

[@tomolson2562]

Best channel on KZbin! You’re a heck of a storyteller Mike, thank you for the endless entertainment

[@aircraftlinemtcliving6392]

Wow the girlfriend is a wack job and has the nerve to call him crazy! She should be in jail too! He told her he was gonna kill his wife and she did nothing about it!

[@cynthiamurphy3669]

Was thinking the exact same thing about her. As if she didn't know how totally wrong it was on her part to even fool with that creep. She knew how wrong it was for him to even joke with her about "dating" and should immediately have left that church and never returned, at the very least. Must be some seriously liberal baptists, lol.

[@thefoxx8552]

totally agree. i think it's the 'Amber Frey' effect, they want to be famous or something. want to write a book & gain something from it. completely disgusting.. sad they couldn't charge her as well..

[@bwb5255]

She looks like she’s enjoying the attention while feigning she’s a victim.

[@nadirimyers6643]

Agree. Literally was about to say the same

[@sunshine3914]

His wife stayed with him even though he had been outed as a perv...

[@necrocoy6100]

I can’t believe that Vanessa is for real trying to cry during her testimony as if she had no idea that he planned to murder his wife and had been telling her the ways he had thought to do it.

[@craigh5236]

She is just as much as a monster as he is.

[@haleyoneil9172]

Yeah like ok so he's telling you all about how he wants to kill her and all of his ideas so what the hell is she sitting there saying?? So obviously you didn't try to stop him or tell anyone what he planned to do and that to me is just as damn guilty and evil!!!!!!

[@caballopalido]

SHE'S A BRAVE SOUL. AND PRETTY. PRIME

[@Gooner333333333]

and how she tried to play the victim in court. She knew he had a wife but tried to act like it wasn't her fault she slept with him

[@mistert4533]

@@caballopalido You know you can pay for a prostitute. You don't need to be so desperate for a pretty woman

[@adagamba7203]

Mike I just have to tell you that since I found your channel I have been drawn to watch every video you have made….I love how you narrate these stories you are the best 👍🏻

[@ronelllambert5394]

The way you “enlighten” us with all the details…… and Lighten us with your amazing humour……..👍👍Makes my day!

[@Elizabelizard]

"um yes I believe my wife just committed suicide" he should have added "Also I would like a large pepsi with my order", with how fucking lifeless that 911 call was

[@TomboyGirlfriend]

First red flag was how calm he sounded telling the operator his wife had committed suicide. If you love your souse, you would be beyond yourself, not sound calm as hell. Second red flag was that the note was typed. 90% of the time suicide notes are handwritten. I instantly suspected it was him

[@ichrismoku]

"Oh I have a dentist appointment at 5 so I hope y'all are gonna get her soon. Kthxbye" he might've added.

[@ufosmoreisslivefeed8945]

He also acted like 400times was too many times!

[@Elizabelizard]

@@TomboyGirlfriend right I agree 100% it's insane *Also love your name I'm also a brooke lol

[@TomboyGirlfriend]

@@Elizabelizard aaah hello fellow Brooke!

[@redmanish]

Goddamn that was a calm 911 call. Homeboy didn’t even try to fake the waterworks. Also, it was really fucking suspicious that she was found naked - why the hell would that not red flag the cops?! A woman of her faith, seems like a modest lady, would be hyperaware of her appearance after death and since it seems premeditated (with the typed out note) it wasn’t a drunken accident. She would’ve had to have planned to take her clothes off and thought she’d be found that way. Never would’ve happened. Makes sense that it was a romantic thing and then he killed her.

[@imsorrythankyouplease7613]

Revelation 16:15 “Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed.”

[@chiaroscuroamore]

100% agree

[@clray123]

She was probably just a secret nudist, and we learned from pastor Matt that she was into bondage as well... Probably only for reenacting some religious scenes, of course.

[@nickieisknittingtoomuch]

I was hoping someone else noticed that. Women don’t want to be found like that.

[@ashy.aquarian]

Maybe he wanted to embarrass her. It’s so disgusting

[@pattipeters9861]

THANK YOU for clarifying that most preachers are good honest people and are not like Matt.

[@sandibaker5298]

Poor girl. The investigators are taking time out of her schedule.😭😭

[@Neophema]

I was so disgusted when he said I think she urinated on herself and that it smelled like it. He was probably mad at her dead body for being so "gross", just like he was mad at her for being so fat (um, she wasn't?). No emotion whatsoever during that call. What a vile monster!

[@staciacarney8085]

Ikr? And then when he's being instructed to do chest compressions that we all know damn well he is NOT doing, he finds it more important to ask the 911 operator if he should unlock the door and then mentions that he needs to call her parents. Yes, doing those two things are definitely more important than trying to do CPR on your wife. Ewww.

[@kerrya2477]

Must have been difficult for him. Y'know,with him being so handsome and everything.

[@steveguzman6141]

Wtf dead peoples bodies poop and pee long after death I guess he didn't watch ask a mortician lady.

[@lunaportia989]

I guess he forgot to clean his mirror to take a long good look at himself first! It would have saved him some breath from criticizing his innocent wife and her looks! Vile a$$hole!

[@taras6806]

@@kerrya2477 giggles!

[@bigmona2741]

A married pastor coming onto me would be such a turn off

[@philiptucker7590]

You would think but some pastors are able to convince women it’s part of gods plan to be together and the women are attracted to a person or position of power in the church….as a pastor I would be scared to death to commit all those taboos in a church 😱

[@bonnie1303]

But he has a vasectomy!

[@professorwoland3181]

Some ladies just love the bad boys

[@lindsayeller8649]

Any pastor coming on to me would be a turn off, lol.

[@detrajackson5992]

🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@KK-ol5ov]

In the first 30 seconds the relaxed call and the typed note speaks millions.

[@melluques8475]

I can’t believe that lover didn’t go to the police when he told her on how to kill his wife🥺 she would be alive today, this lover was the person with the power and the knowledge to stop that crime😔 What level of vulnerability removed you from be able to do what’s right? It’s clear she wanted the wife out of the picture and have her life😔🥺

[@kwhi82]

Does this guy own a mirror? Ironic how he criticises his wife's looks, even though he has aged horribly. Those poor children...

[@miryanacurcic6460]

Exactly, plus calling her fat and other obscene names when he himself looks like a walking heart attack!

[@johnnyholmes8840]

Really? He doesn't give ya a chub?! Oh well...

[@pink_sock]

@@johnnyholmes8840 Hey man, don't shame people for not having the same exquisite taste as you and I. Not everyone can be so blessed. More muscle bound dreamboat for us!

[@kimmyfreak200]

10:31 he looks like that sex offender in a program called sex lies and sex offenders ... its a educational VHS interviewing real sex offenders who are incarcerated.. sorry if this is random but i gagged cuz it looked like the guy that kept saying "i trained her from 1 years old..she was going to be my perfect mate" just search youtube channel pujarze and the video title is " A Psychopathic Sex Offender - An interview with a real psychopath - Disturbing!" looks just like him...yuckie!

[@johnnyholmes8840]

@@kimmyfreak200 I agree, he looks like a complete creep, but based off appearance alone, you kinda look like you might drink blood in your spare time.... A nice blood, cocaine cocktail with Jim Morrison back in the day sound appetizing?

[@mikvance]

Mike: ”Back in 2006.” Me: “Only a few years.” Mike: “15 long years ago.” Me: (crumbles to dust)

[@whatabouttheearth]

😂 I know right? Time is a fast moving train that stops for noone.

[@Marcyy65]

Frrrr

[@jhtsurvival]

Right..

[@jhtsurvival]

I mean I'm only 30 but find it crazy that I work with adults that basically don't even know what 9/11 was like

[@Ninas3rafina]

Me too

[@JJoy-bk8yr]

I wonder if Vanessa was given an immunity deal to get her to talk. She sure sounds like an accomplice, not just a bystander. Surely there is some reason she went from total silence to telling everything needed to convict him.

[@CoExist64]

“The only thing I have to say about that is…” End music. Hahahaha, Mike you’re the best!

[@jacobg__9948]

It’s crazy to think that if her family didn’t get involved he would’ve completely gotten away with it

[@roseannnaldi3964]

I'm glad Kari's parents pursued an investigation and brought justice for their daughter.

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Exactly. I'm also glad that they are raising their two granddaughters...

[@bekindrewind9675]

Bahaha! Hand gestures at the end. And finger fun at the beginning. Ahhh you crack me up

[@susanmary3795]

Even though the subject matter is so dark, you make me laugh. You are a gem, no one else compares

[@farmhouseonthemountain]

This woman got involved with a married man, knew everything that he was thinking of doing, and couldn't manage to muster a single tear while making herself look like a delicate little victim on the stand. Those two deserved each other.

[@nadirimyers6643]

Like fr!!! I was honestly disturbed by how matter a fact she was speaking like girl… you understand you talking about a woman THAT YOU KNEW (and you yourself said was a nice person) being murdered by her husband and you knowing about it before hand and actively not doing anything to stop it. Like do you understand that!?

[@caballopalido]

VANESSA IS A HOTTIE. HOTTIES ALWAYS WIN

[@Milenaiguess]

@@caballopalido i‘m sorry but she ain‘t even hot she‘s just manipulative and loves to talk a lot

[@jenniehughes6927]

She did half heartedly try to squeeze out a tear but just couldn't manage a single measly one . What a despicable pos .

[@hunterlong1820]

Good on her ex husband lol

[@lisablais7913]

"I've had a vasectomy and have no stds, wanna date me?" Yeah, that's the line that would make me want to date him. 🤦‍♀️ And yet she still did.

[@jeannievail]

Right?! WTH?! Then she had the nerve to pretend she was disgusted by him, even though she kept sleeping with him after the murder & covered for him! Grotesque, the both of them!

[@ilovesamyo]

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@paulwoodford6229]

Some women are easy and love the fat hairy look, lol

[@anneshirley9560]

@@paulwoodford6229Desperate times call for desperate measures.

[@sebastiankrajewski2029]

what are you? walking perfection?? such arrogance...

[@LexiTDanh]

You're hilarious, and you're not trying too hard. I love to watch your videos. Keep me entertained. Thank you!

[@Charger1908]

Probably won’t get this or respond but just wanted to tell you that my wife and I think your one hell of a storyteller. We watch your vids every night. The only wonder we have is why don’t we ever see anything about your home? Is there no crime there? Thanks and keep up the great work.

[@andrewgharbieh8899]

That 911 call was one of the most emotionless calls I’ve ever heard and I’ve watched a lot of these

[@eugeniaskelley5194]

Yah, you are right.

[@detrajackson5992]

Especially ALL that talking he was doing. I am an RN. You cannot talk like he was and do chest compressions that fast. It takes literally ALL YOUR ENERGY. Your sole focus is on positioning, the depth and counting how many you are doing. One person CPR is hard. He most definitely wasn't doing them...

[@ninjaswordtothehead]

@@detrajackson5992 For real. Compressions are the single most fatigue-inducing thing I have ever done, and I made it through SERE school.

[@rt66vintage16]

Emotionless yes, but probably more convincing than when the murderer tries to cry and wail, and sounds fake.

[@seame3795]

Right? 😂

[@nelsonkaiowa4347]

Nobody writes "continue to be a great father" in such a note.

[@gidget3467]

Omg he was such a narcissist that, in the "suicide note", he had his wife apologize for her failings and also be his personal hype woman 🤦‍♀️

[@druchampion-payne1489]

@@gidget3467 Indeed ...he's a malignant narcissist.

[@TiffyVella1]

I'm amazed that she failed to mention how he'd had a vasectomy and no stds in the note.

[@druchampion-payne1489]

@@TiffyVella1 LOL!!!

[@The3Storms]

THE great father! I lmao when I saw that😂

[@ttf4now]

Taking a sick day and binging me some That Chapter, hanging with my ol’ friend, Mike.

[@0therun1t21]

19:22-I can't imagine what state one would have to be in to go for a guy with pick-up lines like his. I really want her to tell us. ...then it gets worse, yay.

[@Kelly-jn4cp]

That is the coldest, most unemotional 911 call I have ever heard.

[@LisaLoves]

So he said his wife was clueless, intimated that he had cheated on her previously and said he was disgusted with how far his wife had gotten, yet this ridiculous woman thinks “This is the guy for me!”….. the mind boggles.

[@orangehoof]

Wouldn't be the first time. Heck, look how many women try to strike up romances with known murderers. In many churches, there are women who become infatuated with church pastors. They're authority figures and they're allegedly speaking the truth of God. The smarter pastors adopt rules so they are never put in a compromising position around women not their wife. Not that Baker would feel that way. I fully believe he initiated this. He didn't need anyone to help him cheat on his wife.

[@marquesterry3585]

EXACTLY WHAT IM THINKING. He told her all his plans of killing his wife and she was riding the wave like this was normal. Now he's this big manipulative liar and took advantage of her. What!?

[@-tzadakim-7805]

That’s a woman for ya

[@SusanSez1]

Yeah, she's lovely.

[@sunshine3914]

@@marquesterry3585 He was in the position to manipulate. He was a minister. The cops didn’t question him, his congregation didn’t question him. And his wife didn’t question his shenanigans - she stayed with him.

[@erikmiles3713]

His call to 911 was NOT typical of someone who had just found his beloved wife deceased. He didn't sound upset in the least.

[@Milamilas]

I love how you tell stories,love your channel👍🏾

[@auburnanger6679]

That poor wife. Sounds like a terrible life and instead of him trying to help her with her grief he used it against her. He is the lowest of the low, especially pretending to be a minister to others.

[@HamburgerAmy]

"pretending" That's about as Baptist as you can get. xD

[@marioreyes5816]

Lol

[@chevgage6210]

Pretending? This is pretty standard. Most ministers just don't face the law.

[@auburnanger6679]

@@chevgage6210 ya, I know some very real ministers though who show their struggles and don't pretend to be anything other than humans trying.

[@noahhyde8769]

@@HamburgerAmy No, that's about as sadly human as you can get -- and tends to be VASTLY worse without faith or religion. Officially atheist governments murdered tens of millions (think Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot, for starters). I'd take Baptists (in general) over them, any day (as would you, I trust) -- and I'm not even remotely a Christian.

[@sunnyshayv]

Matt is the worst in all of this but that mistress is no better. She only told the truth to save herself.

[@Jordanfiend361]

Happens more than we think. Men lie all the time about being in relationships and the rest of the women don’t even care but still act like they didn’t know when they get caught 🙄

[@MsDemonLover69]

Exactly ! She was so horrified by his actions that he continued to be with him.

[@eduagonzalez]

And the fact that she has a child of her own is sickening to me !!! Would you want your child having to deal with a murdered mother???? Why would you do that to someone else’s kids

[@Gioachina0279]

@@eduagonzalez i hate that type of women. They shi* constantly in other garden but God beware if someone shi* in hers..egoistic and cold Would not trust such womens one bit

[@ammystery]

why didn't she tell someone about Matt's plan. She waits until Kari dies and decides to speak after being subpoenaed. So hypocritical on her part

[@User31129]

"Shes blue and cold." "Is she conscious?" These dispatchers gotta stop being told to read a script. It just sounds dumb and wastes time.

[@Kiki-kd2kl]

I love you Mike, your corky personality and humor always makes me smile! Mixed with my interests in crime tv That Chapter is definitely a favorite to binge watch! Thank you so much for these videos and for you being you!!! ❤

[@sylviekins]

I can’t believe they didn’t even do toxicology at the time! Those poor little girls- I hope they are ok.

[@TiffyVella1]

I hope (and bet) that Kari's family are looking after them.

[@nanaof6babies]

If my pastor talked like that about his wife. I'd quickly realize I was in the wrong church.

[@alenan759]

Absolutely!!!

[@druchampion-payne1489]

Indeed! ....and I think it's safe to say that 'pastor Matt' never preached on Ephesians 5:25: "Husbands love your wives" ...yeah pretty sure he didn't.

[@dAeveFellows]

all churches are wrong and they should pay taxes.

[@kathleensmith644]

He is going straight to HELL!

[@Bob-vt3my]

No such thing as the right Church

[@chrislane3228]

"Roll your eyes" indicator. Lmao. I come here because Mike is completely goofy and I love it. I do have a heart and soul. I do feel for the victims.

[@danielleturner7828]

I love the theme music. It's creepy and perfect for your channel. Great job xx

[@salliegallegos918]

I never understand how a woman thinks that what a man did to his ex, in this case murder, won’t eventually happen to them.

[@suhail_69]

Exactly !

[@martinboyle9163]

I cannot count the number of women who were surprised that their man cheated on them when they themselves hooked up with the guy when he had a girlfriend already.

[@DreamingCatStudio]

Did anyone in hindsight wonder about the baby’s death? Matt “found” her too.

[@blazefairchild465]

Maybe he had insurance on the baby.

[@cajuncraftysue]

I think because she had a brain tumor, the death was not looked into.

[@gidget3467]

I immediately wondered about that… I’m curious if any other videos covering this case mention how he was with his kids 🤔 Just to give better insight into the likelihood that he would do something like that.

[@sarahholland2600]

That was my first thought.

[@JS-vh1ju]

Yep. He was the one that found her and she had “stopped breathing”. Definitely think he could’ve killed her too

[@shawnessemarie]

It’s sad and scary to think how many families and friends solve the truth about their loved ones case . If it wasn’t for them a lot of them would continue to be swept under the rug and never be looked at again . I’m thankful she had people that knew this isn’t something. She would do and looked into it . Imagine if people that were killed didn’t have support like that and were said to be dead from an apparent suicide which was actually a murder but never got looked at because there was no one there to say hey no this isn’t like them and bring evidence ! I’m sure there is so many cases where this is what happens and it’s honestly terrifying and also so sad . I’m so glad they stuck to their guns and stuck together and never gave up . They all worked together to find out the truth and that amazes me . I just wish the truth could have been solved by the people we put our trust into for these kinds of things to solve .

[@JLD1960]

her bridal picture is sooo beautiful❤❤

[@Shrekapoof45]

I was literally just thinking "Damn its about that time"

[@westnile21]

It’s about that time for That Chapter

[@TooMuchDawg]

I literally get that feeling

[@jjcoola998]

Haha same I started my pre-work workout and was like "Mike must be about toupload any minute" and it popped up at the top of my feed.

[@lila2028]

Indeed it is!

[@max_blak836]

👊Right??! ah! had tht same exact thought here! 😉💚

[@vaquera9368]

She was STILL with him after he confessed killing his wife and how he did it to her??? Woah. I will never fathom how you can kill your spouse and the parent of your kids.

[@mauricedavis8261]

You and me both, I just can't wrap my head around it!!!🙏🤔

[@frankie1012]

Only talked so she wouldn’t be implicated, just like NK.

[@chriswalsh6893]

I thought the same thing untill I got married………no one can hurt you more then you spouse especially if there trying for years. I personally would never but I do see how someone could be brought to it.

[@leeannwitt4968]

Or your child!!!!!

[@vaquera9368]

@@chriswalsh6893 I think people might think about it but to really plan it?? Wicked and evil.

[@samsngdevice5103]

Any preacher named Baker should not be believed.

[@mac11380]

Do NOT tell a woman anything you would not post on social media, because they WILL tell someone.