The #1 Reason You Will Not Buy EGO's Commercial Battery Series

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Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care

Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care

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The reveal of a commercial line of battery equipment from EGO Power Plus at the 2018 GIE Expo caused a bit of a stir, but this is the biggest reason why I can tell you that you WON'T be purchasing this equipment.
After a public reveal in Q4 2018 EGO announced new for the US market, a commercial battery powered lawn care platform with a 28AH backpack battery at its core. Powering an electric hedge trimmer, electric handheld blower, and electric string trimmer, this platform promised all day performance (7 hours hedge trimming, 6 hours string trimming, 1 hour 10 minutes blower full speed).
Initial concerns include the crazy price ($1300 for the battery pack and harness, $200 for the charger, which is sold SEPARATELY from the battery pack, and $400 for each tool) tipping out at $3,000 for one battery pack, a charger, and three tools, as well as the longevity and practicality of battery power for all day commercial use.
Expect a full lineup of videos on these products, including first looks and 30 day reviews of each of the individual units, a look at the pros and cons of the system, things you need to know and thing about before purchasing yourself, how the commercial battery pack works with current residential grade equipment, and much more.
Another goal is to provide a central resource for anyone searching for information on this platform, as currently there are only a handful of 4 or 5 GIE 2018 videos showcasing this equipment (which are fairly identical as far as the information given) and two videos showcasing demo blowers and backpack batteries (neither of which proves this is a replacement for a commercial backpack blower).
EGO Power Plus is a company with a long history of excellence in the battery powered OPE world, and while I have no doubt their products will perform well and customer service will be outstanding, I can't help but worry about the overall practicality of battery application in the commercial world as a replacement for gasoline equipment.
Don't get me wrong, I know it will happen in my lifetime...I just don't think we are there yet. Will EGO prove me wrong? Will battery beat gas? Stay tuned over the next month as we churn out the videos and test these pieces to the max!
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@johnminger9610
@johnminger9610 4 жыл бұрын
I got their weedeater,I love it, the best thing is I don’t have to jerk my guts and back out getting it started. Even got another battery. Worth it when you’re 67 yrs. old!
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Very glad you like it!
@tsnstt
@tsnstt 4 жыл бұрын
Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care I’m 90 years old and this product is amazing!
@steviemack9
@steviemack9 5 жыл бұрын
Lets just say the cost of electric and gas is equal, I want the EGO. Why?, No stink from burning fuel and pouring mixing and storing fuel. Fire hazards , maintenance time and money on gasoline engines.Pain in the a$$ trouble starting . Just overall ease of use. Since EGO I got rid of all my gas powered equipment. I am not a contractor , just a home gamer. Snow blower , lawn mower , leaf blower , chain saw , all work just as good or better then my old gas stuff. Its 4-5 years old had 1 problem 1 battery called with warranty stuff they sent me a new battery in 2 days. No charge. Gas power is on its was out. I don't miss it.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with you, if gas and battery equipment are the same price, I'm taking battery.
@steviemack9
@steviemack9 5 жыл бұрын
@@CopperCreekCuts If there the same price you say? Oh , for you your saying. I can respect that. Well I am saying for me, even if the overall cost of battery equipment was more (its not)then the price of buying and maintaining the gas powered stuff, I would still want the battery operated. For many reasons, as I mentioned. The main reasons reliability , safety , overall hassle. My time here is very valuable to me , I don't want to spend my time buying , storing , mixing gas with oil , and routine maintenance and repair on gasoline engines. Thats not my thing . Getting my chores done fast efficient without hassle is important to me , That way I can get to some serious goofing off sooner, I don't care if gas is cheaper but takes more time and hassle . Life is short , gas operated equipment stinks! I will never go back. I think I see now why people who go to an EV never go back to gas cars. It will be a long before I can afford to go EV , but for me its a better way to go.
@stilldo4052
@stilldo4052 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is a human leafblower- long winded and just blowing stuff around. Going on to next video. Thanks for nothin.
@tsnstt
@tsnstt 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 98 years old and I don’t have access to the gasoline station because I can’t drive but I do have access to a wall outlet and electricity. I love this product.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
You won't like the battery backpack, I can tell you that much now!
@bestintheindustry
@bestintheindustry 3 жыл бұрын
98 year old ... go back to your video games
@blockhead3654
@blockhead3654 5 жыл бұрын
Number one reason for going Eletric should be your lungs and body . Exaust is bad for you .
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
I hear you, but unfortunately that isn't usually the motivating factor for a business change.
@EnigmaticPeanut
@EnigmaticPeanut 5 жыл бұрын
and ears. less vibrations too, so you can add articulations. its better, and fuel price will rise.
@morganroberts1111
@morganroberts1111 4 жыл бұрын
And so are exploding Lithium Ion Backpacks...lol...though I am prepared to take my chances.
@PJ-tt2nz
@PJ-tt2nz 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't you heard of Aspen? That's a pre made synthetical two stroke mix. It costs €20 for 5 liter. Every professional gardener uses it here in Belgium for hedge trimmers and string trimmers
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Only heard of it from a UK gardener. Not at all common here in the states (at least for use by pros).
@ImaITman
@ImaITman 5 жыл бұрын
Thank God I don't live in Europe. That's insane.
@willty
@willty 5 жыл бұрын
Ya I started using Aspen a year ago and it also costs €20 here in Ireland
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 4 жыл бұрын
Any Alkalyte fuel is great. We sell ASPEN at our dealership and customers find it works a lot better than regular unleaded from a garage. I know Stihl and Husqvarna do a equivalent to ASPEN as well.
@JimsEquipmentShed
@JimsEquipmentShed 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, once the hype wears off, it comes down to how long the batteries last during operation, and how long they last in life-cycle. This is where gas generally wins, I can be in the middle of no where and refuel..... How many spare batteries can you afford with this system? If this is a purchase just for carbon credits, so be it.....
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Well said, thanks for watching!
@teddyr7901
@teddyr7901 5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@JimsEquipmentShed
@JimsEquipmentShed 3 жыл бұрын
@NonyaBusiness! I’m actually glad to hear that. I was worried about something closer to a two year lifecycle, and that would start to get expensive quick.
@silverstake88
@silverstake88 2 жыл бұрын
I can charge my spare in my truck while using the other battery. No problem.
@ronaldroberts7221
@ronaldroberts7221 4 жыл бұрын
You make a reasonable point, but I paid extra for the EGO mower and weed wacker (over gas replacements) because they are quiet, and they allow me to do yardwork early on a summer morning, before it gets hot. Also, I hate trying to start a gas weed wacker, they are too temperamental.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, all great reasons! this video is directed to commercial users and EGO's commercial line, not their residential series.
@harrycastro592
@harrycastro592 4 жыл бұрын
i bougth ego because I hate the noise and smoke of the traditional tools.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
They can be annoying for sure! Glad you like it!
@DIYDad1
@DIYDad1 5 жыл бұрын
Lol 9 bucks a gallon on what continent!? My 91 octane ethanol free premium costs me 3.69 a gallon roughly. My cell phone battery needs to be replaced every couple of years, so ego also didnt factor in the cost of degraded lithium ion cells. Heat and charge cycling kills batteries. At $225 current replacement price for the 5ah battery, you would have to use a HUGE amount of gas to break even, and even then after a few years and say 500 charge cycles that battery will die. Especially for the homeowners who only use very little gas it will take like 22 years to break even lol. Not saying the ego is bad, they are well built, powerful, and you are really paying a premium for the convenience of battery IMO. Good run down though!
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
In some of the videos from GIE trade show they are saying 1,000 to 1,200 charge cycles, so hopefully it is closer to that and not the 500, but who knows? Thank you for the feedback, very helpful to have!
@davetherogue
@davetherogue 4 жыл бұрын
I just purchased an ego self propelled 21in used. The battery has a manufacture date of may 2017. I dont know any of the cycle history on the battery but 3 years later here in 2020 and the battery charges quickly and provides power the same as other reviews i have seen here on youtube. Gotta say im impressed.
@elvergalrrga
@elvergalrrga 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. I thought you were going to give a legitimate reason why it’s not good or reliable. What a waste of time watching this lol.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
You can watch the rest of the videos for that. As a commercial user this is very important to get out of the way first since.
@NoLimitsLandon
@NoLimitsLandon Жыл бұрын
@@CopperCreekCuts no I won’t watch the rest of the videos and I will specifically NEVER watch another video of yours agains. And WILL not buy it?? Are you insane? How about “should” not buy it….???
@dansmith3425
@dansmith3425 4 жыл бұрын
The fuel cost my friend with all do respect is only half the real cost. The product "true fuel" and other synthetic blend fuels in florida run $22.00 per gallon. In addition cutting grass residential or commercial is in fact seasonal. Meaning companies that do not use true fuel or a synthetic blend fuel also have shop time on the equipment that isn't used. The life time on commercial products is one, possibly two years. Once there are companies that only use e-go platform for more than a year, only then will you be able to compare product life time and repurchase. According to my arithmetic they have added the fuel costs both ways, fossil fuel vrs synthetic, they got a broad spectrum number and cut that number in half. These people aren't just going to make a product and have the best engineered battery across the board and have the their statistics incorrect.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately until they can confirm one way or the other I have to base the numbers on the information provided, which is what I did. Happy to be proven wrong or have EGO set me straight.
@coppermouse100
@coppermouse100 4 жыл бұрын
This video was the biggest waste of time. You should put your efforts into actually reviewing and testing the product, not wast 10 min of time complaining about their marketing. This is NOT a valid reason to not buy a product
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
I did review and test the product in multiple videos. As a commercial user, a company providing disingenuous or incorrect numbers to try and convince you the merit of their product, to me, is a huge deal and a valid reason to not buy. You are much more forgiving than I am in your business.
@christopherworthington7000
@christopherworthington7000 2 жыл бұрын
You say your a Pro....that means your waking somebody up at all Hours...Invest in these quiet tools and let me efin sleep!!!....lol
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 2 жыл бұрын
😆👍
@rustymay9896
@rustymay9896 5 жыл бұрын
19.45 a gallon is including the price of a new gas can everytime you mix up a gallon. lol
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
XD Ahhhh, that is where it comes from! :)
@JimsEquipmentShed
@JimsEquipmentShed 5 жыл бұрын
I fly my fuel in from Germany........ ;-)
@crimmy0204
@crimmy0204 5 жыл бұрын
my electric operating cost is $20.00 a week including gas for my car. my last commercial job using gas equipment our operating cost was about $200.00 Canadian... week. ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn_HlYtshZ6GkLM
@zacjohnson8404
@zacjohnson8404 5 жыл бұрын
I harvest my fuel myself
@niagara1238
@niagara1238 3 жыл бұрын
They are clearly using premixed fuel for the comparison. E.g. www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/vp-small-engine-fuels-pre-mixed-50:1-2-cycle-fuel-1-gal
@mekko1413
@mekko1413 4 жыл бұрын
Even if their marketing is bad the numbers that you gave still do not advocate for your position as even if the additional initial costs roll into the next year its still a savings. Your title also doesn't make any sense for what the video is about.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that they are either ignorant or deceitful about how they arrive at these numbers is a huge red flag for me personally since the numbers are what justify this purchase. If you can't clearly and plainly explain how your product is going to save and/or make me money, why in the world would I invest $3k just to take your word for it?
@erike7297
@erike7297 4 жыл бұрын
There's other benefits that I realize wont matter for everyone. You can store these tools in a van with out huffing gas everyday, they are far quieter, and 0 maintenance. I do see your points made here and 20 bucks a gallon is hilarious.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
You make some very good points, thank you for watching and commenting!
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 2 жыл бұрын
To me, cost isn't the issue, so I never even looked to see what their numbers are. Bottom line: it's more convenient. The fact that it's quiet is nice as well. But it's nice to not use a chain saw in two years, then need one and you just pop the battery in and go. Sure, if you maintain your gas equipment, you should be fine. But we've all been there. 14F outside, 15 inches of snow just dropped and the gas snow blower won't start. Instead of getting to work, you're trying to diagnose starting issues. Battery isn't perfect, but when practical, I prefer it over gas.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 2 жыл бұрын
Good feedback, thanks!
@cdlvj
@cdlvj 3 жыл бұрын
L Let’s also look on the cost of the Lithium Ion Batteries. Cost per kilowatt is $140 average. 54v, 2.5 amps, = .135 kilowatt * 140 is $18.90. Amazon has 2.5 for $169. 54v, 5 amps is .27 * 140 is 37.80. Battery costs $249. Think I got this right, total rip off. Compare the Ego Power Station. Currents ECOFlow Delta 3600 watts can be had for a little over $1000. EGO unit is $600, 4 batteries at $249 and the converter unit $150. Comes out to a whopping $1746. Not even rocket science. EGO is way overpriced.
@Jason-zp9bz
@Jason-zp9bz 5 жыл бұрын
Great break down, thank you. I was always a gas guy for my lawn care. Now that I live on a city lot with minimum landscaping (mostly brick with some beds). I like the ego for just the ease of not storing gas and maintenance. For the nonpro homeowner I would recommend ego, but I think I’m the target market for electric landscaping tools.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
EGO is a solid brand for sure, but this commercial series is giving me a little grief.
@asktom999
@asktom999 3 жыл бұрын
I did buy the 28 amp battery and I use it a lot,,love my battery,,,,,just the backpack battery I got,,,,is amazing,,,,,use it with the regular ego yard tools,,the 580 and 650 and 530 blowers and the multi head string trimmer,,,,I have the dummie battery from the ego links system
@ramon408
@ramon408 5 жыл бұрын
Im Based in San Jose, Ca and yes, fuel cost is around 4 bucks a gallon. We switched to electric (besides our lawn mower) due to city sound pollution regulations. Lame, I know. Our oldest piece of battery equipment would be our AR900 backpack battery from stihl. It's 4 years old now and I can tell you it still holds at least 80% of its charge. It's a huge chunk of change upfront, but worth it in my opinion. Although I know 90% of the lawncare community would disagree. I just uploaded a video using the HLA 85, love it over the gas counterpart.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent feedback, I appreciate it a ton!
@stevemellinger3776
@stevemellinger3776 3 жыл бұрын
This guy works for another battery company obviously or he would mention all battery powered equipment. Another Ego hater because nobody is buying their product. Stay with gas if you don't like Ego. I'm staying with Ego.
@wickedleeloopy2115
@wickedleeloopy2115 4 жыл бұрын
All things concidered. If you didn't compare it with anything. Would it still be worth buying at 39 cents per hour. In the long term .YES. if you can charge your batteries between jobs & have enough energy all day. The time saving might mean an extra job for the days work.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately charging batteries on the go require thousands more in investment that not everyone would/could make.
@shortyorc121
@shortyorc121 3 жыл бұрын
39 cents a gallon and when you have to buy another battery because yours no longer holds a charge you lost money compared to the guy using a 25cc 2 stroke or 4 stroke.
@davidwright1752
@davidwright1752 3 жыл бұрын
My 4 amp mower battery gave out at 5 years about 250 charges I was bit surprised. However brought 5 amp replacement no maintenance needed and do not miss to impossible to start Petrol Weed whacker
@Learning_new_things_70
@Learning_new_things_70 5 жыл бұрын
You lost me when you started doing the numbers and I didnt see any straight lines or hedges being trimmed. Sorry
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, no offense taken, I understand! :)
@JimsEquipmentShed
@JimsEquipmentShed 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! ha! ha! All part of the business though. If you can't make the numbers work on equipment, it doesn't matter how nice your work is. ;-)
@badandylaoc
@badandylaoc 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah for me it seems like a bit of a click bait title. I hope nobody is considering going electric for fuel savings. As adaption goes up, cost will come down. The opposite is true for fossil fuels.
@nfavor
@nfavor 5 жыл бұрын
The Ego numbers also fall apart once you factor in replacement batteries at year 3 or 4. Not sure about the commerical, but the larger battery for their push mower is over half the cost of the new mower & battery itself! At that point, I'd be trashing it for something else. If Ego offered a battery swap/trade refurbishment program, then I'd consider them. The batteries are simply too expensive to replace otherwise and destroy their long term cost metrics!
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Great feedback, thank you for sharing! I think my father, who recently purchased a push mower with 7.5 AH battery, said something similar. He was looking at getting a second 7.5 AH and it was something like 2/3rds the price of the mower, charger, and battery combined.
@TheCamaro5
@TheCamaro5 3 жыл бұрын
lithium battery have a long life. I still have milwaukee batteries from 12 years ago.
@ralpharon5523
@ralpharon5523 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it is pretty off topic but do anybody know of a good place to watch new movies online?
@deshawnvance3562
@deshawnvance3562 3 жыл бұрын
@Ralph Aron i dunno I watch on flixportal. just search on google after it:P -deshawn
@ralpharon5523
@ralpharon5523 3 жыл бұрын
@Deshawn Vance thanks, I signed up and it seems to work :D I really appreciate it!
@thomasheath6084
@thomasheath6084 3 жыл бұрын
I did buy the back pack battery,,,that’s it,,I use it with my 650 and 580 blower,,,and string trimmer,,,love this battery,,,long run times
@dkiss1988
@dkiss1988 4 жыл бұрын
Well everybody goes mental over these battery equipment here in the UK but I think it's just mostly marketing wanketeering as if you are an established commercial business with a petrol powered set up which cost you thousands why would you switch over to battery? Re invest money into your business? Let's be honest these equipment are far behind in power running times and general ease of use and reliability If you want to market your business as "green" and "eco friendly" then you might want to think about all the mining that involved in order to make your batteries, motors and other electrical components,and how is your electricity made maybe a coal powered station??? Hmmm interesting 🤔. Not to mention that if you are in a rural area how many batteries you have to have? What happenes down the road when batteries start to degrade and provide less running time? What about noise pollution as I think they are not much better than petrol equipment they just generat that high pitch noise that drives most people up the wall. I'll give it the no fumes in the operators face but thats about it and maybe the no vibration but thats a stretch as well as all moving part has to vibrate to a certain extent. So like the idea but unfortunately it's not even close to the point where most business would just switch over without compromise so it's a big no thank you for me. Still just a hiped up marketing bubble
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for sharing!
@Thesaltyseafish
@Thesaltyseafish 4 жыл бұрын
noise wise the difference is substantial on the mower, blower and weed whacker. This stuff works well up to around an acre, or indefinitely if you cycle a couple sets of batteries. If you're going to run a weed whacker for more than 30 minutes (big fields/brush cutting), or make more than 50 cuts on a 12" thick piece of wood, then it doesn't make a lot of sense and you should buy stihl. I have the ego mower, moved over from a 6hp briggs craftsman and it's shocking how good it is. I can go at a light jog through damp knee high grass mulching and it barely bogs, I have yet to stall it. Stalled gassers all the time and had a 12hp modded push mower years ago, this can't keep up with that but that thing was dangerous lol. The 7.5A could do about a half acre of knee high grass on a single charge. I've used corded mowers and they're awful so I was skeptical, but I've got a dewalt weed whacker (already have power tools) and it works great. Is it suitable for professional all day use with fast charging? probably not. Faster charge times will kill batteries faster in exchange for better marketing. Slow charging over 2+ hours with the base model charger will likely double to triple the cycle life, the same is true for most 18650 architecture batteries in laptops and teslas. Don't knock it till you try it. The energy density isn't quite there, it's probably 5x on a gas unit. The decrease in vibration, noise, and pollutants is worth it. I love the smell of a 2 stroke as much as the next guy, but I've only got one set of lungs and they get enough exposure from bikes and diesels as it is. Honestly unless you have over an acre, even with the cost premium, it's worth it.
@shortyorc121
@shortyorc121 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thesaltyseafish yeah... you love smelling your own farts too... eh. Get over yourself this is what the guy is talking about... shilling the unbelievable shilling... you got stocks in all these electric mower equment?? If so fine shill away if not its freaking cringe bro
@agbrown111
@agbrown111 5 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a weird question. Who makes those pants you wear and that belt? They look professional and seem to hold up to you working in the yard with them.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
The belt is Grip6 and the pants are UB Tech Travel Pants (found mine from Costco). Thank you for watching! :)
@GreenWerksLLC
@GreenWerksLLC Жыл бұрын
Take in to account the trip to the gas station and the store to buy gas and the mix.
@doomtomb3
@doomtomb3 5 жыл бұрын
Reason #1 Price. Disclaimer. I love their equipment. I haven't tried their commercial line.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
After my videos you won't have to! ;)
@morganroberts1111
@morganroberts1111 4 жыл бұрын
As to the "numbers" issue...if you factor in the time & cost involved in purchasing, storing, mixing & refuelling as well as continual maintenance costs for both parts and labour, then you'll see that they could've priced the fuel at $12 a gallon and it still would of reflected a true statistical comparison regardless.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
While I don't think that is accurate, I understand what you are getting at. The bottom line is, if these numbers are to be trusted, the math needs to be shared.
@luispatino3180
@luispatino3180 4 жыл бұрын
No one mentions the run time you get from a gallon of gas vs a charge from the (lets be generous) 7.5 ah battery. I run my business with 90% electric equipment but come leaf cleanup season and it's gas or nothing if in trying to finish my routes every week.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Good point, thanks for the comment!
@kirbyman1kanden7pf
@kirbyman1kanden7pf 4 жыл бұрын
power tool batteries are a vendor lock-in ripoff hellhole, glad I don't have to deal with that (specifically, the batteries that aren't tied directly to tool lines are wayyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper, and can be charged without some BS proprietary charging station)
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Never knew you could use anything other than a tool line's specific battery. Thanks for watching!
@kirbyman1kanden7pf
@kirbyman1kanden7pf 4 жыл бұрын
@@CopperCreekCuts I mean using plug-in tools with a giant battery/inverter unit(see my recent videos)
@rayamundson8394
@rayamundson8394 3 жыл бұрын
i think i am getting a brain stroke the longer i listen to this guy
@harunyahyadotorg
@harunyahyadotorg 4 жыл бұрын
Benefits of electric over petrol for me (simple home owner 100 square meters of back yard lawn), in order of importance: 1, Easy to start (no pull cord to break or use energy keep on pulling, or not knowing how or how much to pull). 2, No maintenance needed what so ever, (no annual service of change of oil, gas, spark plug, cleaning) 3, Save time and money in the above, as well as the hassle. 3, Electric machines are lighter, and easier to carry about / but give same performance. 4, Less noise, 5, Cost of buying petrol / oil, 6, Spilling the petrol / oil 7. Storing the petrol / oil, (dangerous /flammable fluids). 8, Less fumes on me / near children, change the clothes etc.. 9. Less fumes, in the environment. 10, easier to re-sell, as explaining the above to the new customer will explain things to them, hopefully for a sale.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@stevemellinger3776
@stevemellinger3776 2 жыл бұрын
The batteries are the main expense. Once the whole battery thing really takes hold, that price will come down. My original Ego mower is five years old now with original battery. Of course it doesn't hold the same run time as new, it does still charge and powers the mower just fine. It's paid for itself easily. The blade I sharpen is once per season and it cuts fine too. Don't let this guy fool you. Ego equipment, residential or commercial, is the best you can buy.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 2 жыл бұрын
You are reviewing and recommending your experience with their residential line as a reason to ignore my bad experience with their commercial line. I am not saying you can't do that, just that it doesn't make much sense.
@tonmoydasgupta9950
@tonmoydasgupta9950 4 жыл бұрын
I am a residential line buyer and like their products but I can understand this gentleman's ire. Those figures are ridiculous and Ego's avoidance on answering those questions about gasoline costs appears shady. Ego designs and manufacturing are usually great but their customer contact channels suck. If only they had taken the time to talk with this gentlemen and corrected their figures.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment and feedback, thank you for watching!
@howardmarkert8150
@howardmarkert8150 5 жыл бұрын
I have EGO yard tools that are 8 years old, I use the residential EGO tools for maintaining my 3/4 acre property and my four rental houses as well, not quite what a lawn service business would do, but far more than a typical residential user. In that time only one battery no longer takes a charge at all and one only holds about half a charge. I bought the blower 8 years ago, the string trimmer 7 years back, the chainsaw 3 years ago, and this year I purchased the new dual battery lawn mower to replace my Honda CRX217 that was going to be $500 repair to replace a bent crankshaft. As for your concerns in the video marketing is more about the hype than facts, but there are a few possible solutions to the math: First EGO is a European country a simple error of using the math with Europeans pricing and lazily just converting to US$ would get numbers like that (not an acceptable answer but possible). Second as you mentioned no separate mention of maintenance costs were provided assuming they are included in the maths, what you didn't account for was the cost of labor for the maintenance (you are either paying someone as an employee or a business to do those repairs or you are doing it yourself and not including the value of your time spent doing those repairs). And last they were getting numbers from some government report which is based upon the costs that the government pays to do landscaping on its various buildings and the National Park Service, and as we all know government contracts have padded costs to increase profits for the businesses and thus increase donations for the politicians that approve those contracts. There are also intangibles that EGO provides over gas powered tools that are hard to quantify as Dollars, such as: less noise pollution which equates to happier employees and clients and potentially allowing for earlier start times for your business. no local air pollution which equates to healthier employees and clients. No chance of hazardous waste spills on the go or at your workplace. And depending on where your local electrical supply is generated less CO2 emissions overall which means that you can offer GREEN service which in many areas there are people that are willing to pay a premium for.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Great feedback! Conversion error is possible, but like you said, not very satisfying answer. Around 4:30 I mention there might be a few hundred of labor costs for maintenance mixed in. As for air/fuel filter/spark plug, most pros are doing that themselves and not taking it to the shop. Probably a 1/10 on difficulty for all three. I don't actually know WHERE they were getting their numbers from, that is the issue. If you have the report, please link it so I can study it. They don't cite anything anywhere. At least when I was doing my research. Good points on the fringe benefits, unfortunately most pros are not really going to care about that so much as the bottom line. Again, thanks for the great comment!
@nthewalk
@nthewalk 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought pretty much everything they had including the commercial weedeater. I’ve been in business for over 25 years and let me tell you this .... after using these machines now for 3 1/2 weeks with no two stroke and all the issues related with hot start ups with fumes and noise. I’ll never go back to gas. These machines are light and wayyyy much quieter and it so easy to just go up to the trailer and unplug one and grab any other machine and go right on about my business. I laugh every time I do it .... it’s a joy to have 100% reliability from the get go .....if I forget a mailbox and grab the weedeater I don’t Have to sit there choking it to get it back down to operating temperature before it will run right any more ..... When I grab these electric tools ........they are just like new every single time I grab a machine. I can go on and on about the positives I have found with this experience. So far it’s like this .... all my work is done and I can’t wait to go back and find more. These machines make it fun. Oh and by the way they have already paid for their selves and then some with in 3 1/2 weeks. So while I look at all the nice gas tools collecting dust on the shelf I’m like damn..... wish I would have had all this electric stuff 10 years ago. Mind you I just bought a brand new fs 240 sthil for $599 this year and it’s on the bench too. And it weighs 14lbs mind you. The commercial ego is very very light. I love weedeating when the wind is blowing clean air by instead of fumes! It edges like a dream. It is also a delight being able to not try to hold my breath while working. I still after a month find my self by habit taking a breath before going around the corner and holding it so I don’t smell the fumes. I find it delightful to take a breath now while working so hard. I can finally breath lol You know what else I haven’t had is? That head ache related to over exposure to gas fumes all day!!!!!!!!!!!!! That alone and I’m sold. And my clothes done stink like fumes any more 😎👍👍.
@tsnstt
@tsnstt 4 жыл бұрын
Let me see.... don’t buy this product because the numbers don’t add up. Hmmm.... I don’t see any boxes that are open so is it safe to assume you haven’t tested this product yet at the time of making this video?
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember if I had or not, but I don't think the point of this video was a review on the products, just addressing their marketing.
@tsnstt
@tsnstt 4 жыл бұрын
The gas per gallon prices their using is the one at the boat gas stations. They are normally times 2 the price so all your math is wrong and there’s are wrong too. Based on the gasoline at the boat ramp the gallon should be $87 dollars.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@crimmy0204
@crimmy0204 5 жыл бұрын
I use ego for commercial use, not even their commercial line stuff and its pretty awesome. I'd love to get my hands on the equipment you have here :(
@mission51able
@mission51able 3 жыл бұрын
You must not handle high end yards then.
@crimmy0204
@crimmy0204 3 жыл бұрын
@@mission51able yeah I've done multi million dollar properties.
@baruda1baruda188
@baruda1baruda188 3 жыл бұрын
I’m have a small yard maintenance business, mainly residential, and recently purchased a hedger and 650 cfm blower from EGO. I personally am very happy with the equipment and will be purchasing a 16” EGO chainsaw with 5ah battery set soon. In my humble opinion, I probably wouldn’t stray away from my Honda commercial mower or my Shindiawa weed whacked but for my other auxiliary power tools I’m very happy with EGO. I do have a PV system at my home so my zero fuel cost is a bonus.
@toddbehrends1373
@toddbehrends1373 5 жыл бұрын
I also buy ethanol free gas, and use it in all my equipment. Last year I did buy the premix which ran me about 48 dollars a gallon. This year I am just mixing it. I do put the premix in my two stroke equipment for winter storage.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, you must be saving a boatload on fuel now! Thank you for the numbers, they help calculations a lot!
@dansmith3425
@dansmith3425 4 жыл бұрын
I do own some e-go products, I don't use them commercially, although my 56 volt lithium ion battery is incredible. I used the hedger on my place the neighbors place, cut down saw grass around two retention ponds all season, I charged the battery twice. So I will safely say, not only will I continue using e-go, I will buy more products and spread the facts based on experience with them. E-go CEO if you need a traveling demo guy, I would be delighted to ride around and demonstrate the duribility, and quality of this product. This product is not just the evolution of lawn care, but the evolution of life, and an end of the need for fossil fuels. Hats off n thumbs up.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Very glad you experience with their residential tools was better than my experience with their commercial lineup.
@dansmith3425
@dansmith3425 4 жыл бұрын
I have to admit the residential tools are a lil weak. You were just wondering where they got their numbers from. Think about this, guy using fuel, pull up, get out, they have a well executed plan that saves time. Time is money. They grab the tools they will use sometimes fill up, then start pulling a rope. Old equipment will take a few pulls. Thats time wasted. When the e-go or any other company using electric tools roll up they get out grab equipment and begin working. Never the less changing a battery is ridiculously faster that a fill up. A well invested team would do well. One other thing, we are old school, and no matter how its approached we always compare fuel to electric. Sometimes it might seem fuel is better other times electric. The facts are this, this is the evolution not only of lawn care but human life. I have learned that it makes things so much easier if I embrace the change and do what I have to do learn and get better. This is our life's experience. I my world I don't have problems. I have solutions. So lets make it happen. Good luck with the transition my friend. You do seem like a pro so it will be easy for you. And if you don't want your e-go products I would be honored to give them one hell of a run to see how many seasons can be got out of them. Take care boss. Also I mean no disrespect earlier. There are so many variables. Let me how it works out for ya, I'm interested to know. Thank you sir.
@greenguardlawns
@greenguardlawns 4 жыл бұрын
They are probably factoring labor into the per gallon price since an employee is on the clock when they are filling up gas cans at the gas station.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
XD Maybe!
@SatireNewsNetwork
@SatireNewsNetwork 4 жыл бұрын
I call BS on you owning a lawn service. I have mowed lawns for YEARS and their numbers for gas are pretty damn close to Wichita prices and things here are hella cheap compared to Florida!
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Feel free to post actual numbers, but until you do I can't really say anything more than this video already broke down with numbers.
@rsharpe1985
@rsharpe1985 5 жыл бұрын
Every single company does this every single company!!!!!!! people will buy it regardless if the #s r off period if a person wants to get into a battery platform and go green and stop dealing with gas products they 100% will buy this bc it’s the best battery operated lawn care equipment. once again every single company stretches the numbers!!!!!
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Well, 'best...equipment' is a stretch and not sure how you are measuring it. I also don't think every company stretches numbers like EGO did. Feel free to post sources that support your point. Thank you for watching.
@rsharpe1985
@rsharpe1985 5 жыл бұрын
I can see ur a numbers guy every company does stretch the numbers if you can’t see that you must be blind its called marketing and if this wasn’t the best battery operated lawn equipment you wouldn’t be making a video about them and this video definitely wouldn’t be relevant sorry to offend you just don’t see how someone can go spend thousands of dollars and then sit there and try to bash a company that is at the top of their game if a company wants to go green they’re not gonna give a thought about the #s they r going to buy the best product. I THINK UR MISSING THE POINT U SAID PEOPLE R NOT GOING TO BUY EGO BC THEIR NUMBERS ARE SKEWED AND I AM SAYING YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!!!!!! PEOPLE WILL BUY THIS PRODUCT BC THEY WANT TO GO GREEN AND DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH GAS NAME ONE COMPANY THATS BETTER PLEASE!!!! JUST CANT BELIEVE U SPENT THOUSANDS TO BE A HATER!!!! PEOPLE BUY BATTERY OPERATED BC ITS MORE CONVENIENT NOT BC ITS CHEAPER WHERE YOU AT? BATTERY OPERATED IS THE WAY OF THE FUTURE GET ON BOARD!!!!
@Justsomedude64
@Justsomedude64 4 жыл бұрын
This is a big “so what” rant because even if you use YOUR numbers instead of EGO’s the battery equipment is still far cheaper.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Ehh, I wouldn't say far cheaper. And at least for me, there isn't any way you can justify misleading marketing.
@Justsomedude64
@Justsomedude64 4 жыл бұрын
Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care - Ok, I hear your point, it would be nice if they had a break down of their numbers. However, calling it a “...reason you will not buy EGO’s Commercial Battery Series “ is a bit of a stretch.
@tsnstt
@tsnstt 4 жыл бұрын
So I won’t be buying this equipment due to the marketing of gasoline verse KW dollar cost breakdown. Come on man!! I see your point and fully understand it but no review on the product itself. You’ve already set your mind on not buying this stuff just based off of this so now everything that comes out of your mouth will be skewed to not buying this no matter how good of a product this is
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
You are a homeowner, I am assuming. Commercial is a different world. If a company wants you to drop $3K on their commercial line up and they can't even give you straight numbers, why in the world would I trust my business to them?
@tsnstt
@tsnstt 4 жыл бұрын
Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care GREAT POINT!!
@kelkev85
@kelkev85 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend ignoring the misleading marketing and just try using the equipment to see if you like it. You will probably find that it performs similar to gas and you will love not carrying fuel everywhere and mixing gas. One thing no one mentions is no more fumes for you or your crew. Electric is coming you might as well embrace it, you might actually prefer it.
@silverstake88
@silverstake88 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going with electric. It's vastly more convenient, no smells, much quieter. Most pieces of EGO equipment are lighter (sometimes much lighter) than the gas counterparts. They also store much, much easier than their gas counterparts as there's nothing to leak out. I stand my walk behind mower on end next to snowblower which also folds to compact size..... Batteries are interchangeable to different tools which makes the cost per tool dramatically cheaper than dedicated gas machines. Also - no tune-ups, rebuilding carburetors, spark plugs, belts, etc. Yes, I'm speaking in a residential format. Commercially these may not be your bag. But the low maintenance and ease of use suits me fine.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 2 жыл бұрын
That's great! I think I said my viewpoint was on the commercial line, I have no issues with their residential line.
@Gman539
@Gman539 Жыл бұрын
Good luck buying batteries every few years.......
@justinmcnamara5013
@justinmcnamara5013 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldent buy this for a 10 year old to use its all over priced plastic with zero fiber reinforcement in the plastic .... it's toy grade junk
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't get a look at the plastic composition so I will take your word for it. Thanks for watching!
@justinmcnamara5013
@justinmcnamara5013 4 жыл бұрын
@@CopperCreekCuts yeah there not what they claim to be and over price, that's for the video !
@mackthomas8750
@mackthomas8750 5 жыл бұрын
Dude I spend £19 for 5l ethanol free pre-made two stroke mix it's called Aspen
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
That is a pretty good deal! Thank you for the numbers, it helps with calculations!
@danielrylance4658
@danielrylance4658 5 жыл бұрын
im looking to convert my whippies to ego, i already use Ryobi pole saw and extended hedge trimmer and a chainsaw18volt and love them . reasons for the change are not really based on fuel savings but its more a easy convience tool , saftey and light weight being the biggest factor and maintenance. Alot of guys say battery lacks power if u are maintaining properties weekly or by weekly how much power do u really need . 300 dollar hedge job for maybe a hour work on a light weight battery machine is money in the bank less fatigue aswell . Nice vid mate. side note lol there commercial range im not a fan of the tools they paired up with it they should have made the combi system instead of the plain hedge trimmer. so i would lean more to there other equipment instead of the commercial line up.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
It boggles my mind they didn't release their multi tool system with this. Such a missed opportunity!
@randyman8984
@randyman8984 5 жыл бұрын
I have the EGO push mower and I must say I have been super impressed with it. Keep in mind that I only had it since janurary 2019. I got a SUPER deal for a self propelled for $210 on clearance @ home depot. I live in north ga so when I first bought it I used it to scalp down my 4 inch tall dormant bermuda. I didnt go all the way down, I would lower the deck one setting at a time per week. Even though the grass was dormant I was seeing a better/cleaner cut than my old honda twin blade mower, not to mention that it bagged all the clippings nicely too. Fast forward to today and using it on the lowest deck setting still getting a clean nice cut when its green. Only gripe I have is I wish it would cut a little lower(Lowest setting is only 1 1/2 inches). I also bought the new mulch high lift blade and it really does a better job of sucking and standing up the grass blades better. Feels more powerful too. Another cool thing is on my honda self propellled mower the self propeled would always spin the back tires casuing the tires to wear out fast, On this you never have that problem. You can actually go with the pace alot better than the gas powered honda.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent feedback, I appreciate it! Thank you for taking the time to watch and share your findings!
@brentbanks8314
@brentbanks8314 5 жыл бұрын
Please Try Stihl With the ap 300 s batteries. I would love to go all in with batteries, but I am not going to do the backpack battery thing. A good sized battery like the ap 300s might be a good option. I am sure you would have to swap it out mid day, but I think it would be similar to a gas tank.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, good to see you again! :) I answered on your previous comment.
@baruda1baruda188
@baruda1baruda188 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your point of the inflated fuel cost and your absolutely correct, but in my humble opinion, the ease of use outweighs the marketing inconsistency. This video could turn away the average home owner that’s on the fence about going with EGO. Just give one of your crews a 650 cfm blower with 5ah batteries and ask for feedback in a month.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 3 жыл бұрын
This video isn't for the average homeowner considering EGO. As mentioned in the title and video, this focuses solely on their commercial lineup, which is targeted to professionals.
@jscott4613
@jscott4613 5 жыл бұрын
Battery for home owners landscaping business workers/owners need gas equipment..runs longer (just for this simple fact)...
@444chroma
@444chroma 5 жыл бұрын
$20+/gallon is common forr those retail premixed fuels. Most people can't easily get pure gas at pump unless they happen to live near a marina. Even fewer will bother with Avgas. I just mix some regular 89, oil and stabilizer when I know it's going to go quick. Run some truefuel at the very end of the season before the equipment sits for a bit.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Such a crazy high price to base numbers for commercial guys off of. Thanks for the feedback, that helps!
@schmitty8225
@schmitty8225 5 жыл бұрын
You're still spending $1300 a year on gas compared to the $100 for batteries. Are you this critical with all the numbers for the gas powered equipment you buy? If you're this triggered by a marketing teams numbers, you wouldn't be the lawn care business. Every single company fudges numbers to make themselves look better. You spent a 10 minute video to say you save over a grand a year with electric.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't think you are looking at this as a lawn care business owner, which is OK. However, that is who these tools are intended for, so you HAVE to look at them that way. To answer your question, I am not that critical of gas marketing, because gas equipment doesn't require $2,000 to purchase one tool. I guess your logic is because every company fudges numbers it shouldn't ever be pointed out to help people make more informed choices? Unfortunately, you DON'T save a grand a year. My example attempted to simply show these numbers are not trustworthy and require more research and calculations on your part. I used California, which has the highest gasoline cost at $4.00. The national average? $2.80. The figure I used for oil? $2.00 per gallon. My cost? Closer to $1.30. That puts the yearly cost at somewhere less than $950.00, so ~$850 difference per year. Now when you look at the fact these three tools are going to cost $2,900 versus gas tools which will cost ~$1,200, that is ~$1,700 to make up. So you break even in about two years. Two years is a LOOOONG time to wager the performance of three tools on one battery pack that can act up in cold or heat, be rendered useless if dropped, not to mention if it performs as well as the gas counterparts and all the headaches that come with batteries (like the fact that if you have two people working, they will never be able to use the $2,900 in electric tools at the same time because there is only 1 battery pack, etc.) Again, I am not trying to be rude, but I think anyone who does this for a living or on the side will IMMEDIATELY see the glaring issue with these inflated numbers that EGO is putting out rather than trying to justify them or find fault with the guy pointing them out. That being said, I do appreciate your input and watching the video! :)
@J-Colt
@J-Colt 5 жыл бұрын
Marketing numbers way too high. If Copper Creek showed those numbers then said, look at these savings! Most people here would wonder about his business acumen
@eddiemyers3206
@eddiemyers3206 5 ай бұрын
The battery system is great up until the batteries start going to crap and you gotta buy new batteries! At $300-$400 to replace a battery is where you get caught and gas catches up to cost to benefit ratio. Electric enables you to save between new and old and when you gotta buy batteries to replace the old systems it’s a deal breaker. Ego is great for small tools but the bigger machines ???? Not worth it at all and commercial ? Convenient for a couple years but those batteries just don’t make cents !
@rebekahshook2183
@rebekahshook2183 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a hairdresser and I bought a cordless clipper and only lasted no more then one ☝️ year not to mention finding the plug 🔌 to charged it forget I bought a regular clipper and is more powerful and still last for five years so far
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, I did the same thing. If you can't tell, I am bald and use no guard every week. The battery one was losing power! Went and bought a corded one. Problem solved.
@Therealphantomzero
@Therealphantomzero 4 жыл бұрын
I agree this i was wondering as well, I think in a video they take a lot more into account. Such as down times, times getting it started, and other un quantifiable things. But most commercial guys have they things streamlined and downtime is relatively low as long as you maintain it. Yeah I think it's a stretch. If I were to consider this, it would be for me for a few reasons just not dealing with gas and doing pulls, I would be working by myself. So yeah I dunno
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
And that is fine if they factor those things in, they just need to be public with it.
@shangrilaladeda
@shangrilaladeda 5 жыл бұрын
I’m still a fan of carbon combustion engines, electric has so much further to go.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
It will be the king one day, just not there yet!
@odin8214
@odin8214 5 жыл бұрын
@@CopperCreekCuts For a home owner it works well. but as a pro i cant imagine its there yet.
@ImaITman
@ImaITman 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Ego powerhead system and I'll be honest. I LOVE my husquvarna, I can't remember which model it is, but it's the top of the consumer line for them. Well in all honesty my ego string trimmer puts my husq to shame. It's actually been a little hard to switch, because emotionally I'm attached to my husq. However the ease of use with electric and the cost savings AND it has more power. That's a winner for me.
@EnigmaticPeanut
@EnigmaticPeanut 5 жыл бұрын
@@ImaITman i also think that they simply perform better.
@ImaITman
@ImaITman 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how efficient the charging is for the backpack, but it only holds 15 cents of stored energy when full. So they may be using california electricity numbers for charging the product as where I'm at in TN 1 kwh is only 9.8 cents. The backpack can store ~1.5 kwh of energy. Usually these types of electronics are fairly efficient in charging so instead of their 39 cent number for me it'd probably be more like 25 cents or less per charge. I think my biggest gripe is the thing is only good for "up to 1000" charge cycles. So at 1300 dollars per unit, factored over 4 years time (assuming it can actually do 1000 which it won't be able to achieve that perfectly) is 27 dollars per month assuming you replace it when it goes bad. On top of that you're spending let's say 30 cents per day to charge. So that comes out to 33 dollars per month of operating cost. That's making several assumptions: 1: The tools you use with it never break (probably not going to happen) 2: It can actually achieve 1000 charge cycles (again probably not going to happen) 3: The battery pack doesn't break in any other way other than due to normal wear and tear (after the first 2 years). My assessment is that battery power is better for the home user right now, I use Ego stuff for my house and I love it. However for commercial use the only way I can see it saving you money is that it's probably not going to break down as often as gas equipment can. Even in a 2 stroke there's more moving parts than electric so never having an issue and never taking you away from mowing could be a huge benefit. Downtime is money in any industry so it May be worth it. Really happy to you see you using the equipment and can't wait for you to review it in the real world!
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, this was an awesome breakdown. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment!
@BryanShipman-gj3ov
@BryanShipman-gj3ov 11 ай бұрын
While I appreciate your transparency of not being anti ego and just serving the facts, I fail to understand why your calculation of annual cost of gas use is $1300 is a reason to not consider battery. It's still a savings of $1200/yr. You say maybe ego's #s could make sense with the premix shelf stable options... Which they absolutely do because it states what they based them on, but mixing your own is no issue, so going with your numbers makes perfect sense, but your numbers still show battery is yielding a savings of $1200/yr. This is where your bias rears it's ugly little head. Your investment is paid off in 3 years tops and then you get straight roi until battery failure, which isn't gonna happen before several years after 3, from what reviews are saying online (some are 9 years and still kicking). So I guess I just don't understand your beef, unless it's just with the marketing verbage, which is meh, especially since the math is actually explained by them and the individually tinned premixes used (to get those inflated numbers) are named under the prices "2 stroke mix". If you're using 2 stroke mix it's gonna cost more than using gas and 2 stroke oil. A weak attempt to spurn a renewable energy option, but even with all the BS political issues aside, it just makes sense from the numbers available.
@desotopete
@desotopete 4 жыл бұрын
As a non commercial user the single "weed wacker" electric works good for my needs. I NEVER have to drive a vehicle to go get gasoline and I can have trimmer line shipped to my house.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it works great for you! Thanks for sharing!
@markbrisec3972
@markbrisec3972 2 жыл бұрын
There's another huge reason why you should take a pass on EGO battery powered equipment vs some of their competitors, and the reason is an exuberant price of their batteries vs Makita's for example.. EGO 2.5 Ah battery cost around 150$. OK? You can get the Makita 5Ah (that's twice the capacity of EGO), for around 50 bucks... WTF? Are they serious? Do they use Unobtanium in their batteries instead of lithium? No way EGO..
@zacjohnson8404
@zacjohnson8404 5 жыл бұрын
I spend $500aud per year on 2stroke mix lol. Still want to go electric but ego seems overpriced for what it is and full of sneaky marketing tactics that they need to convince you to buy their product.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like that was one of the biggest drawbacks to the whole experience! Thanks for watching :)
@cdlvj
@cdlvj 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Really over priced, and how do they expect the GREEN when these companies rip you off. Made in China too. The way they combine and price their packages is absurd. You get a better price, but the package always has something you will not need. Also looks like it is better to have a 5 amp over 2.5 amp. Have to buy separate.
@mikesaunders3326
@mikesaunders3326 3 жыл бұрын
The only way I can see getting to ~$9 per gallon is if they're including the labor cost for an employee to drive to the gas station, fill up a gas can, mix 2-stroke adder, refill tools, etc... There probably is a modest time savings in refueling and maintenance when using batter powered tools over gasoline. It would be nice to hear their response if they ever respond.
@yaboileeroy3038
@yaboileeroy3038 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah $9.39/gallon is ridiculous. I run 93 in all my equipment, but STP 2-stroke mix isn’t that expensive so my cost per gallon is still barely half that.
@traxxas5
@traxxas5 Жыл бұрын
Same with Stihl cordless. Constant issues with machines and failures. The odd battery failure. Parts to expensive to warrant repairing. Would have been cheaper to stay with my original petrol kit using Alkylate fuel. But I'm told Stihl petrol kit has really gone down hill also. We've switched so some ego kit and we believe it is far better build quality than Stihl and parts reasonable. Also a 3 year warranty where Stihl is 1 year. But ultimately these tool don't last, the batteries don't last, you are entering Into a world of...I have to buy a new machine as I have all these batteries, or I have to replace the battery as I have all the machines. Its a constant headache and money pit.
@Aedriaen
@Aedriaen 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I am using this batteries for 3 years now, [not commercially] and they are performing perfect. I think it is important to not fully drain the batteries and cool them down before you load them. I always load them slowly, no fast loader. I understand that this may be impossible for a proffesional commerial gardener, but for a private garden this equipment is performing very good. Sold my Honda lawnmower and bought the 42 EGO mower. It's performs also very, very well. Side bonus is that I can load the batteries with solar power.
@donniefoust4204
@donniefoust4204 11 ай бұрын
I don't have ego commercial,but I do have the trimmer,chainsaw,and mower. I use it on all my accounts. Love how quiet they are. Don't have to fill them up with gas. I believe their using pre mix pricing. I have solar panels and so it cost me nothing to charge. Never ever have to worry about starting just push a button!
@str8upn0l1fe6
@str8upn0l1fe6 2 жыл бұрын
Im looking at the commercial line up I'm entering the lawncare business and I'm in between going all ego 42 ego zero turn and commercial tool line up or a residential stihl 56rc string trimmer edger and a hedge trimmer and getting a toro timecutter 42. I all ready mow 5 lawns for people I know and make 40 to 60 on each lawn. I live in florida and the heat makes my scepter no spill cans inflate and when you go to burp the can it sprays fuel everywhere so I'm leaning towards ego. Also gas unleaded is 3.98 a gallon and non ethanol at circle k was 4.87 or 5.06 I don't remember but it's high priced for fuel atm great video tho
@MrBlackem1
@MrBlackem1 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased the latest self propelled ego mower and haven’t looked back since. I totally see what you’re saying here but honestly, I’ll never use a gas mower again at my house lol. Just like I won’t use a corded vacuum cleaner without a hepa filter. There is convenience and a premium user experience I feel using the products. i don’t think I even heard the comparison to yearly running cost I was tired of maintenance. I’m also purely a residential user. Good information none the less.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
I can't disagree with you at all! And you point it out but commercial/residential are different animals. I can't say anything bad about their residential lineup. In fact, many of the commercial electric companies I know USE the residential EGO stuff, and have nothing but good to say about it. Which makes their commercial line up even more disappointing.
@liamsmith4566
@liamsmith4566 2 жыл бұрын
I thaught this was product review and yet all it was a guy mad about posted prices..... every company bullshits on the cost savings, Husqvarna, honda, echo, ego, greenwood.... end of the day, in 15 years you won't be able to buy gas, 🤣
@ChannelWagner
@ChannelWagner 5 жыл бұрын
I bought at least half of ego's products so far, an the reason is not savings, but convenience. Just like the convenience of cordless drill compared to corded one
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
But the commercial system does have a cord ;) Just kidding, I knew what you meant.
@ShiverPlumbingTN
@ShiverPlumbingTN 2 жыл бұрын
How much time & $ do you spend mixing buying filling gas.? Maybe they think the average business that would allocate 3k on their equipment does spend 3k . That’s believeable to me. I’m considering new E Transit for similar reasons and not having to waste time at gas stations is a big deal for me !
@Davidndbehehhdhd
@Davidndbehehhdhd Жыл бұрын
Try saying that to California new 2024 law. What would you recommend is the best electric battery company to use in this 2024 year.
@johnkraft5640
@johnkraft5640 2 жыл бұрын
Purchase an EGO battery. 386.00 dollars 7.5 amp. If you worked on the commercial side. You will have to replace after a year. Good job on the video
@robertgreen4050
@robertgreen4050 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a home owner I have a ego trimmer and chainsaw and primarily use them for light duty stuff just for convenience. Recently had to do a big job took down two big ass pine trees and cut them all up with my gas Stihl chainsaw there's no way in hell I could have done that with the ego chainsaw even with a bunch of batteries
@lopincol
@lopincol 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Canada, gas is 1.30$/ litres If I buy premix 2-stroke gas it's 25$/gal Our electricity is the cheapest in North America though
@freshfed
@freshfed 2 жыл бұрын
Have to disregard the fuel costing here in ireland in 2022. We are upto 8.36usd per gal of fuel, plus 2stroke brings this above the egos math.
@spartaragekick6202
@spartaragekick6202 3 жыл бұрын
well dang....the battery alone isnt cheap...when it goes completly out & u need another one r two r 3 batteries to replace to run ur equipment....how is that saving money in the long run...but compared to paying 4 dollars a gallon when gas goes up again...then ya...subscribing to battery run equipment is much better....
@JohnWhite-Iowa-City
@JohnWhite-Iowa-City 3 жыл бұрын
Duhh they are talking about true fuel. If you don't use your equipment a lot it makes sense. I mix my own but dump it out and store it with true fuel. Keeps from messing around with the carb as today's fuel has a very short shelf life especially ethanol Blended fuels
@gregoriodecker2692
@gregoriodecker2692 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously premixed fuel in a can sold right by the blowers.. is what echo and husqvarna recommend in their blowers and they last much longer and run better.
@mattranum
@mattranum 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense for 5 Gallon tank
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear, thanks for watching!
@MrLinkvi
@MrLinkvi 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the gas they have at Lowe's is also ethanol free, I asked the same question you did to somebody I work at Lowe's and they were telling me it was full synthetic or something, I kind of have a feeling hes full of crap
@Webgobo
@Webgobo 3 жыл бұрын
This prices are normal for pre mixed stuff. Stihl strongly recommend tu buy this expensive stuff! Greetings from Germany!
@CarterHewins
@CarterHewins 5 жыл бұрын
How many inches do you cut your grass at?
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on the turf and customer. Saint Augustine I won't go lower than 3" but prefer 3.5" or 4". Most everything else here gets cut at 2.5".
@CarterHewins
@CarterHewins 5 жыл бұрын
Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care thanks we cut ours at 3.5in but we were thinking about going to 3.0in but yeah your right it would depend on the consumer. One other thing your channel is awesome!😂
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
@@CarterHewins Haha, thanks!
@ajx352
@ajx352 Жыл бұрын
I think they are referring to using "TruFuel" 50:1 mix which is about $28/gallon...
@SouthPawEd
@SouthPawEd 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry Brad, you were just 2 years early in your calculations. In May 2022, these costs check out. 😅
@edwardmajka3144
@edwardmajka3144 2 жыл бұрын
Marathon Watching 11/16/21 Great honest review from your own experience with the product !
@baddriversofcolga
@baddriversofcolga 4 жыл бұрын
The benefits of electric to me are that they're better for the environment, better for your own health, no smelly fumes, easier/less hassle to use, almost no maintenance, no gas to spill, quieter, and when it comes to their consumer line you start saving money a lot sooner and don't have to go anywhere to get gas.
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Also makes more sense for homeowners in cold areas where the equipment gets stored overwinter. That can mess up gas equipment if you don't do it right.
@facepalm5134
@facepalm5134 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah just a lot less hassle. Time is money . Lol
@Ram-wo1ur
@Ram-wo1ur 4 жыл бұрын
It’s actually more harmful to the environment.
@baddriversofcolga
@baddriversofcolga 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ram-wo1ur Nope.
@Gman539
@Gman539 Жыл бұрын
@@Ram-wo1ur Don't tell that to the green sheep. They think the batteries recycle themselves, the lithium mining is a clean process that isn't environmentally harmful and uses lots of diesel powered equipment, and that the electricity used to charge the batteries don't come mainly from coal or natural gas power generation plants..........
@danostby7748
@danostby7748 Жыл бұрын
How many times have you recharged the BAX1501 back pack battery?
@chrispotter1834
@chrispotter1834 4 жыл бұрын
It is a good gardening kit
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad you have had good experiences with it!
@stevemellinger3776
@stevemellinger3776 2 жыл бұрын
Last point...with Biden in office you see the price of gas going up up up. "Let's go Ego".
@Cool58F250
@Cool58F250 5 жыл бұрын
HUH 🤔 Sounds Like Ego has a Little Bit of Explaining to Do 😬🇺🇸
@CopperCreekCuts
@CopperCreekCuts 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, I hope we can get some clarification!
@Cool58F250
@Cool58F250 5 жыл бұрын
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