The 10 Biggest SURRON Myths

[@SkateOrDie]

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[@SeraiahPrats]

How did you even get sponsored by Morgan and Morgan

[@qrygamer]

​@@SeraiahPratsmy guess is bro fell one too many times

[@almightywhitey6955]

Absolute complete comparison ya did here, son! And I like how truthful u were about pros n cons of each Excellent job!

[@Whatdoesbeyotchmean]

When he said: “we fear what we don’t understand and we label what we can’t comprehend” that hit diff 😭😭😭

[@dolphin-studio]

not really

[@tacticooldennis]

I think a lot of people lump them into the dirt bike category, but the build quality is not the same. A dirtbike can handle being dropped multiple times without breaking. however a lot of components on a Sur-Ron are carried over from MTB and don't support the weight or speed. Even the Magura brakes; a lot of people pick as the best are not rated for the weight or speed of a Sur-Ron.

[@nicgur_6981]

That’s why they have different models.

[@kalinww]

Crazy how big this channel is now. Love the surround content. I'm waiting for my talaria to show up in the next couple of days. Used to think skating was my life

[@carsonkennedy8410]

Dude your editing is so good 🙌 Great video!

[@Grisu.]

this may not get many views, but its really good info for someone thinking about buying one like me. i really appreciated this vid my friend.

[@SkateOrDie]

Thank you! that was my goal

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@Grisu. Your support helped destroy this channel

[@GodfatherXXI]

Dude, you live in Seattle. You should do a "sess" at the skatepark under the bridge in that city.

[@Huey4214]

Great video,loaded with good info. Thanks for taking the time

[@done3960]

one very importantdetail: it's a lot easier to take an electric bike to your 8th floor apt. (via elevator) and service it or do other mechanical things to it. a gas powered bike would attract waaay more attention and i dare you to fire it up. lol.

[@deborahgoslin5858]

Thank you for sharing ! I want one. Now I know about it I've learned alot !

[@weapon4x243]

thinking more about getting a surron after seeing your vids on them

[@maviplayz]

”He was okey” bro legit went flying wym he was ok💀

[@bugus123]

i like how 2:06 is most replayed

[@capocruzers620]

Really cool to hear u build ur own stuff us mtbers get tucked off when y'all come and ruin our stuff so it's cool u can respect that

[@burn1gotbeats]

Great points 👍

[@randomgarbage8968]

bro the guy that rode his surron in a pool just killed me.💀💀

[@hazze4594]

5:10 bro was way to chill with that lmao

[@josealago7263]

Bro Fr he turned into Superman for a second 😂

[@Thegoproers18]

what version of surron do you have?

[@kieth7000]

Great video I can't argue with you on it at all. 😅

[@RealJaxo89-2]

Bro why is surronster in the cover

[@ekoreplayz9925]

Can i use it in the snow? Theres is not much snow where i live but i still want to use it to go to my job in the winter could i do that?

[@SkateOrDie]

Yeah I’ve ridden in the snow/ice before you can definitely do it just gotta be careful tires with a lot of traction help alot

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@ekoreplayz9925 Your support helped destroy this channel

[@Miniscapes515]

I like the old trails and building new ones. Then you can say pedal bikes are illegal here.

[@benswift218]

In the uk u get chases and even hit off ur bike if u don’t take off. Bike would be taken and u would loose ur license for 1/2 years

[@Stevo_YouTube]

I'm in UK and thinking of getting one and putting it in the back of my estate, but even then, where would I take it to ride?!!!

[@peterstull7874]

is it a surron x in the vid? I wanna get an s lb

[@SkateOrDie]

Yeah it’s the x the lb is has smaller wheels worse suspension and weaker motor fyi

[@Thomas_808]

Do you recommend a Soron over a gas dirtbike for a first time bike for a 12-13 year old??

[@poganow]

yea its easier to ride and also the seat height is much lower

[@Thomas_808]

@@poganow ok thank you

[@Kevin-dl1nv]

Great video!

[@kennethHorning-Alvia]

2:06 brain activation! (0------0)

[@diesel7549]

Im looking into surron supermoto wheels, are thrre any brands you would recommend and how often do you recommended changing them

[@tomilee78]

Surron = electric dirt bike It is not about weight, range, or something else. It is the purpose and capability.

[@tbull1545]

they are street legal but only with registration and insurance like a normal motorcycle.

[@MAsWorld1]

It IS cheap, tell me what else you can get NEW for 4500?? That has anywhere near the fun factor! And mine has No mods & it’s a blast!

[@MrKongatthegates]

A honda rebel 300, Or a Yamaha scooter, both are street legal

[@MAsWorld1]

@@MrKongatthegates but your not gunna ride those in suburban woods & bike trails.

[@sjefleenaerts7277]

enduro bikes have a tiny range compared to road bikes a hundred miles in extreme riding is pretty rare tbh

[@yahya523mahmoud8]

dude i want one of these bikes so bad but here on palestine the STOCK ones cost more than a car

[@almightywhitey6955]

4500 isn’t hump change

[@almightywhitey6955]

Or chump change

[@RE4L_XmX]

2:06 i watched this vid in class and sombody saw… this

[@Drasticho]

How can I make a surron street legal?

[@ONEWAY_ESBY]

isn't that surronster on the thumbnail

[@IsaiahLimas]

can you link the link for the surron that was in this vid pls

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@IsaiahLimas Your support helped destroy this channel

[@Redfoxsurron]

Hey I made it in a video hahahah

[@DannyfMartin]

I like flip flops no helmet and ripping down forestry roads to remote lakes

[@Fastestgolfkartkid]

Who renembers when he would post skate content

[@Manga_TM]

I got a surron cause im getting into bikes but my parents wont let me ride a gas bike till i get a job to pay for the bike gas and insurance but im 14 and im not waiting 2 years lol

[@GhettoTurtler]

you can still work at 14 yo can only work on the weekends tho

[@mickeythorpe2426]

Boy that really rips. Like a dirt bike. Proof it not a moped or bicycle. Jumps like a dirt bike. Cant get that kind of power out of your e bike or moped. You say it’s not a dirt bike, it performs like one. Definitely not an e bike or a moped. Not a bicycle. Illegal on the street as well.

[@aaronscheuman]

Misconceptions*

[@castella6927]

ultra bee is basicly a dirt bike tho

[@I_like_sk8in]

HE UPLOADED

[@_ze_zodiac_]

But at what cost 👀🥲🤣🤣🤣 jk

[@Yorealdad]

I want one but holy shit 4,000?

[@lostinspace2899]

Isnt even that expensive. Most ebike mtbs cost more and dont come close to a surron

[@TalariaRider001]

Spend that 4500 on a talaria sting mx4 that goes faster

[@tankeater]

Wow... we got electric sk8boards, yet, you buy and talk about the electric bicycles??? You ain't uh real sk8er

[@tbull1545]

no its not in a grey area its a fucking dirtbike

[@stockey]

These are not E-bikes, they're motorcycle, cops will eventually clamp down on these.

[@Gamer6790Boss]

nice video !

[@mr_macroking]

Surron or Die

[@Piirvu]

second

[@Extrme_sports385]

My guy 😂, you got scammed. A Honda trails bike coaster 2k while a Surron cost 4k

[@KaoruSugimura]

It's still relatively cheap. Not requiring insurance, tags, gas and regular maintenance saves a lot in the long run.

[@MrKongatthegates]

not street legal without those

[@grimreefah]

🤓

[@24kCookieVert]

stupid you need insurance if you wanna ride it on the street and if not then same with dirt bike you don't need insurance or tags either. Maintnence lmao battery alone costs 2500$ which is insane and replace it every few years because battery not gonna last long, for normal motorcycle only small stuff gonna break and overall gonna be way cheaper. Surron is so overpriced 4500$ for a electric toy is a lot and u can buy dirt bike even for 1000$ and have even more fun no even gears is huge downside. Automatic sucks.

[@logan-taylor]

excellent mythbusting brother

[@kacsa]

How is it a misconception a Surron is a motorcycle/dirt bike? Go check the official website and see what they actually sell it as. They list it as a off road electric motorcycle. They can do 0-50mph in 3.6 seconds but you still don't think that's a motorcycle/dirt bike? Yes gas will have more power, more range, but that doesn't change the fact a Surron is an electric dirt bike.

[@Calthecool]

They don't even go 50mph unless you upgrade them

[@Justdrinksumtea]

Dude got a lawyer to sponsor him

[@cmdr_stretchedguy]

Legality for use on the road: most states will classify it as a motorcycle and require motorcycle license and license plates (for the road). Not a bicycle as it doesn't have human powered pedals, and not a moped as it can go faster than 25-40mph (depends on state).

[@NatsumeKonno]

My state dont even wanna register it to anything not even a moped.

[@MrKongatthegates]

Its not street legal in either case. It says its an off road vehicle right on the box. You dont register quads and such@@NatsumeKonno

[@cbrjab]

⁠@@MrKongatthegatesyou do register quads and such here in California. Not sure about other states. Surron are not street legal here, technically they are unclassified since they do not fall in class 1, 2, or 3.

[@pleesedont]

i was wondering what’s your opinion and thoughts on the belt drive over chain for the surron?

[@nathanielflynn1654]

I thought bro was a skater not a biker

[@musicforlyfe1]

im happy hes doing what he likes instead of doing what the fans like

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@musicforlyfe1 Your support helped destroy this channel

[@Shmack_]

Basically you can't ride 85 anywhere near public unless it's a high crime city where cops got actual crime to handle and ignore the Karens and bored old people calling in all th3 time

[@OKmusi]

skate or die turning into surron or die

[@lukeb5905]

Why not get an esk8? Stooge raceboards or Diy raceboards can easily beat out a stock surron

[@SkateOrDie]

Cuz I like wheelies and hitting jumps off-road

[@lukeb5905]

@@SkateOrDie could get an electric mountain board

[@jasonschwartz9481]

Unfortunately even in what were at one time "country" areas, is becoming v harder and harder to find places to ride dirtbikes. Especially if you don't feel like paying to go to a motocross track or park. Soooo, Sur-rons? Talarias? Well worth it to ride quietly on some unique terrain.

[@MrKongatthegates]

If they made it look more like a bmx or 10 speed, you could go stealth on it in town, stay onder 30-35 probably never get pulled over. get rid of the long seat and put a hole in the middle, no lights

[@Extrme_sports385]

My opinion is they should make trails just for moto vehicles and then trails for other stuff like hiking

[@Calthecool]

The problem with this idea is "they", who is "they"? If you aren't out there making trails for motos then you can't expect other people to do it for you.

[@MrKongatthegates]

They do

[@jackhalverson9962]

I agree with all of your info, especially on the setting of where you would want/not want a Surron vs dirt bike but I disagree entirely with the fact that a Surron is more expensive than a dirt bike you compared a brand new Surron to a bunch of used bikes with a filter on a lot of people especially people who race only put a limited amount of miles on a bike to race them and use them to there peak sell the old one and pick from the selection of 20 other dirtbikes a new dirt bike probably runs around 8k a crf150r is about 6k and a crf250 is around 8k and that's not even starting on ktm's or 450's also dirt bikes have been around far longer and are more popular giving them a much larger aftermarket support allowing for way more crazy in-depth and more expensive builds then any Surron. If you don't think I'm qualified to say whats what j letting you know I got like 10 dirt bikes in my garage and have been searching for a Emoto/bike for months.

[@TheAntManMan]

you arent lying, also that discount you can get buying a used dirt bike doesnt seem to translate to these Ebikes... its just about my second month checking marketplace and 9/10 of the posts are about $200 lower than official dealers...more commonly mfs are asking MORE $$ than a brand new one because they did a couple mods. I honestly struggle to trust their parts selection, not to mention their ability to install correctly to guarantee the best functionality/longevity.... best of luck with your search!

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@jackhalverson9962 Your support helped destroy this channel

[@capocruzers620]

I'm really glad u didn't say that they don't ruin jumps or anything because they do I mountain bike and I'm 14, we build dirt jumps not tiny ones, 6 foot tall lips and stuff and surron kids always come ride and destroy them I luv these bikes it's just always the riders that screw up

[@ICEYCOKEwastakenwasalsotaken]

0:40 quote that

[@truthnpaws3866]

This is slowly turning into a surron channel 😢

[@ScottiCammarota.]

Mate there’s only 2 surron vidios on this Chanel

[@arandom_child1534]

His last video was a sk8 vid tf this man talking ab 😂

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@ScottiCammarota. Theres over 5 😭 Dingle berry didn’t bother to fact check before hitting the comments 😂

[@Peanutbutterfunds]

@@ScottiCammarota.🤣

[@_Im_Not_Creative_]

I know ist sad

[@lxix_0]

remember when this was a skate channel😔

[@como1loco]

6:44 water CAN dmg surron motor, when motor is hot and you apply water on it with temp change motor will suck in some water inside, so soon or later it will brake

[@cheshire_]

I don't know about street "legality" where I live, like I was pulled over on my escooter one even though they're legal, our cops are so outdated on new laws its crazy.... Anyways, I found a seller selling a used Segway X260 with 2x32ah batteries for C$4000, this sounds like a crazy deal think I'm just gonna gamble if I can get away or not riding these on the street/side(I have 0 interest in off roading, anyways we have literally 0 trails within a 25km radius lol) if that doesn't work/I get fined I'm gonna go the legal way and get another escooter I guess, sucks since I've always wanted an e-moto

[@mitchstarr5317]

Haha it does look goofy but the pedals make it so I can, without ANY worries utilize all the city bike paths 👌 looks goofy but allows me to get around my city faster then by car 👍

[@spiffdaddy]

Where i live if you bike not have peddles you can not ride it on road must have paddles so have to thumbs down to save alota folks from having there bikes towed... "Law here is Strict on this" "DO NOT BREAK LAW ADD PADDING SYSTEM" NOT worth Impound fee This guy will get alota kids in trouble....Sadly

[@spiffdaddy]

Adding Paddles do make it Legal say most State Judges" Do homework talk to Lawers Stop the Lies... in 70% States in USA...

[@mconradb]

Pedals do not make it legal. It is way beyond the power of what is considered a class 3 e-bike, pedals or not. "Law everywhere is specific on this" "USE PADDING BUT DO NOT ADD PEDALING SYSTEM" NOT worth a broken ankle. spiffdaddy will get a lot of kids injured if they listen to his advice.... Sadly Adding Paddles do not make it a Boat say all State Judges" I agree, Do homework just call Saul Stop The Lies... In 100% States in USA.....................................................................,.........................

[@140theguy]

Patiently waiting to meet my first surron rider that doesn't deserve a reckless driving ticket. LOL Surron is not road legal without mods anywhere in the US.

[@nk-dw2hm]

You're not wrong, but he said register it...

[@hacker1011000]

@@nk-dw2hm even tho them states dont register it you can't rejester it even if it is required

[@je7647]

sur ron on flip flops is what the kings do

[@kwooook]

hey gotta call this out 3:52 500 watts is enough to go 45km/h,dont spread misinformation,k thanks!

[@CokesAndTokes]

Surons aren't in a gray area they are literally just e-dirtbikes stock. ,there's only 1 gray area one I've seen and it's a pithog max

[@JoeStanek-vu7rl]

In Oregon if it goes over 35mph it needs lights, plate, tags and insurance... so they most definitely are illegal in Oregon

[@FREEADAMLANZA]

bike doesnt go over 30 if u dont cut the governor

[@humanblibord7386]

Do u prefer making skate story vids or the list/top ten vids? And what do u fans prefer watching?

[@SkateOrDie]

depends mostly on what I'm inspired by. If you sort my videos by most popular its clear to see what fans prefer.

[@humanblibord7386]

@@SkateOrDie aight

[@PRAlSEJESUS]

I might get a Surron it’s the light bee s but I’m still hyped

[@Insanity_Wolf]

Honestly i have insurance on all my ebikes. Which your first time getting pulled over you show you have accident insurance and cops will leave you alone. Thats there main concern is if you hit a car or a car hits you there needs to be a liability clause. Otherwise as long as your not cutting up traffic and doing 60 on sidewalks they are cool with whatever.

[@hawaiiangunner]

I'll take all of these laws seriously when my car can't go over 55. You want to gain some traction with this? Make every single car and motorcycle on the road have a restriction on their horsepower then we can talk

[@TXDYLAN]

Register it as a Moped or a street legal dirt bike?

[@motoreese9431]

Whatever mods you do on your ebike...you do the same mods on your motorcycle...except they are more expensive

[@Bill-e-Goat]

Brother’s bike was in flames so he pulled this app out like it had a fire extinguisher button😂😂😂😂

[@visionlightlab6094]

Thank you for what I would consider a video with a lot of honest useful information!

[@Williamfeuz]

Stop riding mtb and bmx dirt jumps

[@alangoodrich6590]

you in seattle area? lets ride. i know those power lines. right by my house. lets ride...

[@Benjamin.V]

if a modded surron costs around 12k wouldnt a stark varg be the better option?

[@AkGraydog]

In the states that you need it to be street legal, if there are cops around. Just don’t be a dick and your fine

[@Stxzle]

Surrons are illegal period they dont meet legal speed (25 mph) and wattage requirements.

[@GoofyAhhMods]

The e ride pro is a dirt bike imo

[@nk-dw2hm]

5:30 wtf is this clip? Dude didnt even try to turn and went straight into the guardrail

[@BLKalani]

where i live in Australia cops don't play with surrons if they see you on one they will try ram you off it and if u don't get away quick enough and get caught say bye bye to ur 4-6k bike cos they resell it in the police auction or crush it😭😭😭😭

[@TheSultan1470]

HAHAHAHA

[@WondersoftheWildWorld01]

I live in far north queensland cops dont give a shit aslong as you dont ride recklessly on footpaths and bike lanes.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

​@@WondersoftheWildWorld01unfortunately Victoria is in debt so they'll steal your cash anyway they can literally. Have a good one from Nazi Dan's area lol

[@rather_be_a_cat]

The upkeep puts me off cause I've the engineering skills of a slug. My mountain bike has a 350w front wheel motor that takes me to 30mph without pedalling without the need for all the work.

[@Calthecool]

Got to love hub motors.

[@rather_be_a_cat]

@@Calthecool the only issue I've had with it being on the front wheel is it can wheel spin when going up steep slippery surfaces but apart from that they make everything so much easier.

[@Calthecool]

@@rather_be_a_cat I just built a 2kW 2wd bike with two 1kW kits (vid on my channel if you want to take a look) and it definitely spins the front wheel sometimes, although I mostly ride it on pavement where it isn’t a problem.

[@Benautodesign]

5:36 Yep... I broke my pinky riding a surron... only my pinky (which literally shattered in 5 pieces) because I had gears on ! Good thing is I kept the bike between my legs and I didn't even scratched it ! Actually, I wish I had scratched the bike instead and kept my pinky straight cause it's all crooked now ^^