The 14th Doctor - Discussing the 'Woke' backlash | Votesaxon07

[@blitzwing5439]

I agree with you in that I feel Jodie Whittaker was miscast for the part. She could never make a speech akin to the one in the Zygon Inversion. But I do hold Chibnall more accountable, he chose to cast his friend instead of someone who's best for the role. Ncuti hasn't even been featured on the show yet, and I already sense that he has very good range, which is what you need to have when playing such an iconic character. The first 4 actors in the revived show felt like the same man. Jodie feels like a completely different character that has the same principles as the others, but the essence and soul of the character isn't there. This probably also has a lot to do with Chibnall's writing of the character. I'm more excited that Russel is back, but I'm hoping for a more toned down version of his writing style, think less End of Time and more Parting of the Ways or Midnight

[@nathanielmorgan9108]

she does good talking about the wonder of the universe in speeches, but not so much on serious speeches

[@annaclarafenyo8185]

Sorry, but her best episode, "The Demons of the Punjab" was better than anything on Dr. Who before or since.

[@mahfuzurchowdhury2765]

I actually feel Jodie could have been a good Doctor, and have THE Doctor, running through her. I feel like Jodie, herself, had the charisma and the "comand the room" feel to her, which already proves to me she could pull it off. The writing for her Doctor just made her seem so... Supporting character-y? I do agree though, that Chibnall did cast a female for the sake of it, to say he was the first one. He picked an actress who was good, just didn't have an idea how to craft one. That's my opinion at least.

[@Mortalware]

Exactly how I feel as well. It doesn't matter who the Doctor is as long as they are a good actor and the writing is good.

[@mahfuzurchowdhury2765]

@@Mortalware, yes. But I would add, not just being a good actor is enough to be a good Doctor. You have to have this all encompassing comand of the room, gravitas and charisma, which all previous actors have had, including Ncuti, from what I can see.

[@blitzwing5439]

She reminds me of Tennant when he first started in series 2, when he was still trying to figure out his version of the doctor. The difference between the 2 is that Tennant eventually found his version of the character and Jodie hasn't.

[@joeespin4377]

everything in jodie's era was terrible

[@morphor]

@@joeespin4377 I wouldn't go so far to say 'everything' about it was terrible, there was some enjoyable moments, and some fine episodes, the problem stemmed was the fact the prior eras had superior writing and directing thus everything felt more actually at stake rather then 'monster of the week' territory. Personally, some of the more historical based episodes felt a bit of a callback to Hartnell era given the fact it used it more as an educational tool rather then a setting.

[@mahfuzurchowdhury2765]

I would place Ruth between 2 and 3, mainly because of the inconsistency of the whole TARDIS debacle stuff. It would also allow for all of the Timeless Child incarnations, pre Hartnell, not be actual Doctor incarnations, just another group of people The Doctor used to be, working under division - maybe even a bad person? This also allows Hartnell to still be the OG Doctor, the one to make the promise. Personally, I don't think that title should ever be be stripped from him. Ruth's incarnation would be the one who's re-recruited by Division (again), but when Ruth finds out she'd been working for Division before Hartnell's Doctor, doing some pretty shady stuff, she runs away and hides out, while Division tries to come after, and erase her memories again. This leads to the events that take place in Fugitive of The Judoon. Eventually they do catch up to her, and just erase the memory of her incarnation, for some reason.

[@vanimapermai]

make ruth and the timeless child the doctor from an/a alternate/parallel timeline/universe and that explains where the timeless child came from. William Hartnells doctor can still be born on gallifrey a true timelord the 1st incarnation And that way both continuity's can exist in tandem. and the fandom can start to heal.

[@mahfuzurchowdhury2765]

@@vanimapermai I was considering this idea too. But that doesn't explain why Jodie's Doctor could slightly remember the Ruth Doctor. Or when she gives a "blast" of memories, it contains the Morbius Doctors and Ruth. Or that the Timelords have knowledge of all of it too.

[@countofdownable]

Yet Doctor 3 was dressed as Doctor 2 after regeneration.

[@mahfuzurchowdhury2765]

@@countofdownable dressing him up in the 2nd Doctor's outfit could be all part of the plan, to make sure he didn't remember.

[@robertnewby4798]

What failed with Jodies time as the doctor was the plots and the writing.

[@IcyLightning00]

and the side characters being non-existant

[@sweiland75]

and her acting

[@Jenny.McLeod]

And alienating your core audience

[@jamesa.fitzpatrick1566]

I like that we can have this conversation. I have come to realize that I have difficulty with change. I think Ncuti will either prove he is the right man for the job or not. We owe it to ourselves to be patient and check it out when the time comes. I keep re-watching this video. Good words.

[@jamesa.fitzpatrick1566]

PS I don't like the idea of the Timeless Child but I LOVE your stream of consciousness ideas. BBC needs to hire you.

[@5thar]

Very strong video, this is what the moderate side of this debate needs - While Mr.Tardis make videos titled 'laughing at' forever ruining our connection to the other side, your here trying to build a bridge and I'm really glad to see someone do that - Good on ya😊👍.

[@TheMariokart7fan]

I'm just excited to get back to RTD's writing again. I'm excited for Jodie's last episode as it looks fun and I'll miss Jodie but I will also be relieved to be away from Chibnall's writing

[@wardjunior1450]

While I think the doctor is a male role, I have no issue with a black doctor as long as the reasoning ISNT for a silly woke reason which Russel claims it isn’t.

[@afgor1088]

why does the reasoning matter? are you so obsessed with this made up "woke" "culture war" BS that if a good actor were hired for reasons you don't like you'd refuse to enjoy the show?

[@holyfeline715]

I agree

[@abagofspanners3463]

DW fans who aren't happy about an established white character becoming black are racist? So, equally all those that weren't convinced about a long established male character becoming a woman were I guess misogynists? Hmmm, well looking beyond the labels, could it be that people simply have concerns that are more to do the long history of the character and those changes made little to no sense within that context? Anymore than it did when C4 cast a black woman as the white historical character, Anne Boleyn. I suppose though that concern would also be racist? Well, if considered so, what do you think would be the reaction to a white actor portraying Nelson Mandela or another black historical, or even established fictional, figure? But that wouldn't be allowed to happen would it? As it would be pegged as cultural appropriation. For many, rather an entertaining Sci-Fi show, DW has sadly become a tool for promoting woke ideology. Whittaker's time included so much of this, like the story that happened to include men giving birth - what a coincidence that reflected a woke ideology that men can get pregnant too. This ideology driven crusade led to poorly written stories and declining audience ratings. At the end of Whittaker's tenure Rotten Tomatoes recorded an audience approval of S12 16% and S13 I couldn't confirm, but I believe 'The Quartering' reported this as well under 10%. Adding to the show now being a woke tool, if the latest casting was purely on the merit of the actors, why was it necessary as part of the show's promotion to announce the new doctor and companion's sexuality? Maybe I missed previous Dr Who appointee's being celebrated as white, straight actors. Why was it relevant to even bring their sexuality into it if this isn't a woke show? Incidentally, bit of a straw argument to say if it was woke casting Gatwa would be a bad actor. Why? Are you saying because he's black he cant act?! Clearly, he's a good actor. It's not about him, its about the character of DW being changed to promote woke ideology . Well, enjoy the woke show for those that want it.

[@samchandler7747]

We'll see how Ncuti Gatwa does in the role, he certainly deserves the benefit of the doubt. As I see it though, the problem here is at least partially caused by the BBC. By pushing so fanatically for diverse and inclusive casting (not a bad thing in itself, it's just the intensity of the push that's the problem), they've created a situation where people are prone to doubt whether a BAME actor got their job because of merit, or because of their ethnicity. In the case of Ncuti Gatwa, its more than likely because of merit. He seems to be a great and likeable actor, and fingers crossed he'll knock it out of the park. But, so long as the BBC continues to aggressively push this overtly political agenda, people will continue to have doubts about whether someone was cast because of talent, or because of politics. That's not good for BAME actors as much as anyone else - who deserve to be recognised for their talent and judged based on the contents of their characters. I really do believe that positive discrimination (in many cases, at least) is a well-meaning but flawed policy that too often serves as the handmaiden (not the enemy) of real racism.

[@SuperHitman55]

Okay, I agree with you. Let's see how things go first :)

[@neildavis3664]

Wow, that theory of yours makes a lot of sense and it’s brilliant

[@barker-chanvlogs4582]

This isn't necessarily related to the videos topic but I think there's gonna be a celebration when 13s sonic screwdriver is destroyed. Also side rant why can't people just wait till the new actor of the doctor is seen on screen. Like every time the new doc is announced I don't make my option on them until I see there first episode. Im not saying you can't talk about the new doctor I'm just saying wait before you say whether a actor is shit or not. I also say the same thing when it comes the sonic design and tardis design as well as the costume. Rant over sorry for making you read this all 😅

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

I didn't enjoy Jodie, but I didn't enjoy Peter Capaldi as much as Matt Smith and David Tennant either. Not because she's a woman but because I just didn't enjoy her direction, writing? I don't judge until I see them, we can't fairly judge without anything to go on. I've seen woke stuff ruin things before, but this doesn't seem like that. Like with Bill, the fact that she was lesbian was basically her personality, but Jodie wasn't "woke" if I'm honest, and we can't say the new guy is until we see him in action. People are just too fast to judge.

[@steveandjeanniefrith236]

Well Jodie failed so my confidence in the BBC is well and truly shaken.

[@TheBigBadForumTroll]

Sadly all fandoms that is active online is prone to the "hyperbole hate overreaction" circus. Its kinda turned into the way a lot of youtubers in fandoms stay afloat. Like the quartering. Massively overreacting, creating strawmen and missing the point, is almost part of the course when a fandom get new content these days. But for some casual fans, I feel the skin deep take on woke criticism some fans have is "valid". Because media cooperation's failed shoehorned attempts to have some inclusion/ representation for everyone. Have ruined stories, characters and some shows potential. And itself, created some really bad stereo-types. Nothing is worse for black representation than the stereotypical gay declawed man, or the butch (often lesbian) woman that need no man and can fix anything herself. But I agree with what you said, if it turns out he is not right the The Doctor part, aka shit as you said, we will notice fast. And if it is a "woke" agenda, then we will probably see the story take hit, in effort tell that agenda. But until we get to see both the acting and the story unfold, he should be given a chance. I don't get the parts of fandoms that think its okay to pre-make the lynch squad and publicly put some on trail for something we haven't seen unfold yet. Especially since he is the actor and not the writer or producer of the show. He have literary no say in the matter.

[@delaceylehane7758]

We don’t need it see it to know it serves the woke agenda. All they’ve told us is the doctor is gay, black, his companion is trans, and the show will be sexier than ever.

[@deptfordbaker6329]

As I understand it, the BBC have a mandatory diversity quota of 20% for all new on screen productions including Doctor Who. That means the producer doesn't always have an absolute free choice. Sometimes it makes sense to do some research before throwing around accusations of racism for questioning motives. Positive discrimination is still discrimination no matter how well meaning. As we don't know how the shortlist or audition process was carried out, (was it open to the public), it is impossible to rule out box ticking, or determine how talented someone is compared to the competition they faced. Chris Chibnall said Jody blew him away with her talent as well during her audition, I seem to remember, and look how that turned out.

[@centralrnrockets3500]

I watched a portion of series 11 and immediately switched off. Jodie was cast only because of her gender. She probably is a good actor (I've never seen her work before other than Doctor Who) and people myself are worried that the same thing is happening due to Gatwa's casting. I do not plan to watch sex education, but I am willing to see Ncuti and Russel work in the show due to Russel's previous work on the show.

[@ShaneJMcEntee]

Do you plan on doing more reviews? Think you stopped off at Series 3. I miss them

[@hououinkyouma3864]

I don't think he will

[@bradbobhayhurst8604]

No

[@ikarus4180]

as much as i thought jodie was good and i felt like she was a victim of bad writing, i agree with most of this video and the fact the Jo Martin commanded the room and deserves a spin off or at least a big finish

[@droidmarqueemarquee6281]

SHE 100% said she never watched doctor who.. she WAS NOT a candidate

[@andreatwolfpack]

It’s crazy seeing how all of these people looked up to you and you turned out to be a monster… man this world has to change.

[@stephenpolson5193]

I'm definitely sick of "woke culture" but I have always been up for giving people a chance and if someone is the best person for the job then they should get the job, personally looking forward to the new season especially with what RTD said about the audition.

[@dgma626]

I think he's too young maybe if he was 10 years older it would be a good fit

[@ShaneJMcEntee]

I don't think it's woke casting. I think the fact the last 3 Doctors (including Fugitive) have been not white men has made people wonder if it's been intentional. They could still hire a good actor but just one who's not a white man so it *could* be "woke" casting. However, I don't think it is. I wonder what would have happened if it was a white man again? I think there would have been backlash there too where people would say "oh you had 1 shot with a woman and it didn't work and back to the status quo of a white British man". And as you said Jodie was a diversity casting as Chibnall admitted he wanted a female Doctor specifically. Which is fine. I think it's fine if they did new intentionally want to hire a non white actor. I would have felt different on this in the past and felt they should just cast the best for the role but maybe going for something different isn't that bad a thing. But RTD has straight up said it wasn't woke casting and there's no reason to not believe him. I hopes he's good as right now I can't see it. I know Matt was only 26 but he just seems too young based on his Sex Education character. But he's an actor so I'm sure he can play older as Matt did. I'm very interested to see how he plays the Doctors. Will he play him more straight or a bit flamboyant/camp? What accent will he use? I'm intrigued. In the fee scneses she's had Jo Martin has proven the Doctor can be a woman (Jodi isn't bad but even Jodi haters mostly like Jos portrayal.) And it's dumb to day this but she lived the Doctor can be black too. I remember when she was revealed as being the Doctor and I was shocked at the reveal but didn't for one second think OMG a black Doctor. Was only when headlines referred to her as the first black doctor that I realised "oh yeah I guess she is".

[@j.l.blankenship5104]

if it wasnt broke dont try and fix

[@ShaneJMcEntee]

@@j.l.blankenship5104 stupid comment

[@simonjones1017]

Mate, you cant blame people worrying after the whole load of crap we had when Chibnell took over. Im not racist BUT Its what they do with the character and the show. Lets just have some good stories, some good sci Fi, I couldn't give a flying fish who the doctor is, its about what the writers do with the show surely?????

[@delaceylehane7758]

A lot of sci fi is allegorical and has a message. It’s note “woke” in the context the term is being used today. Classic sci fi films that had something to say were successful and are loved just for that: they had something to say. What we have today is generic and derivative and filled with completely transparent tokenism and virtue signalling, in an age when everyone is doing the same, and then doubling down when it doesn’t take and labelling the critics “bigots”

[@therattlesnake1614]

I'm still not overstruck on the whole timeless child angle it kinda makes me feel confused 🤔

[@mattyipad4788]

Totally agree with your comments on the Ruth doctor feeling like THE doctor, as soon as ruth broke the glass I have said Jodie instantly felt like the companion, you’d think it should’ve been the other way around as Jodie is supposed to be the main lead

[@D_y_s_o_n]

I think people assume it to be woke casting cause one, the BBC hasn't given them any indication they aren't prioritising the message anymore and two in the interviews at the bafta the actor talks about being seen and representation. We only have RTD word that he was given the role based on his performance.

[@shadow-scope-fsm7165]

To be fair, I'd sooner trust the word of the person who has cast him, and actually seen first hand what he can do, over some online troglodyte like bowlestrek.

[@annemccullough2182]

To be fair respresentation is important, iregardless of the why he has been cast it will always come up because its important, his itteration of the doctor will give POC more versions of themselves in scifi and that can only be a good thing

[@D_y_s_o_n]

​@@shadow-scope-fsm7165 To be fair I'm not working for a corporation like the BBC nor do i have to repair the damage done to what is now a dead franchise but sure.

[@D_y_s_o_n]

@@annemccullough2182 To be fair you don't. I don't watch Korean cinema and wish for there to be more British people, I didn't watch black panther and go why no white people in Wakanda? This i need to see myself on screen nonsense to feel represented is nonsense. Besides Dr Who has had diverse casting for a while.

[@annemccullough2182]

@@D_y_s_o_n yes for specific types of film and tv you dont need to see yourself in but generalised scifi or superhero movies yeah i think its important, people often dont see it as important becuase there not from the marginalised group who are under represented.

[@DarkPrince_96]

I'm sure Ncuti Gatwa is going to be great. What people need to realise is that he wasn't picked because of the colour of his skin or to be "woke". He was cast as The Doctor because RTD saw something in Ncuti Gatwa's audition that made him go "yes! that's the next doctor!" .

[@Beowolf1uk]

I think it was the way Jodie was written, Jo's Doctor was written as a bad ass.

[@Zzazs]

i feel bad for jodie whittaker the actor was good but the writing sucked was to woke crap its a shame for her but im glad to see something new

[@ShaneJMcEntee]

Interesting theory as to why the Doctor(and most other timelords) was always the same race and gender. Maybe it becomes more random onbce you've broken past the 12 rule. The Master has used up all his regenerations long before Missy came along and then after Mossy he's non white.

[@ToolBama33]

This man killed a woman and a baby...but racism guise

[@Bagofnowt]

I remember, children, back when Jodie Whittaker was cast, probably these same people were saying 'The doctor could turn into any MAN, white, black, asian, just not a woman'. Now it's 'the doctor can be any white person!' The whole 'woke casting' thing makes no sense to me. As much as Russell T Davies could have hired a shit actor who's black to play the doctor, he could have also cast a great black actor. And presuming he had the choice, which he does because it's doctor who, what do you think he'd go for?

[@samuellane4437]

I think people misunderstand why Doctor Who fans were upset with Jodie's casting and are hesitant to celebrate Ncuti. It isn't because she's a woman or he's black, it's why she's a woman and he's black. The fear was Doctor Who would become very heavy-handed with its political content because "it's about time" right? I had high hopes for Jodie, but those hopes were dashed by Rosa and incinerated by The Timeless Children. Now Ncuti is the Doctor and the sceptic fans fear they'll never regain the escapist romp across space and time that they fell in love with all those years ago. I'll give Ncuti a chance, RTD is a real writer, I trust he can be more subtle than Chibnall and therefore, less annoying. RTD is a course correction, he's the only reason fans who checked out are even paying notice, but if he turns out to effectively be a continuation of Chibnall the show won't make it, It doesn't get any more chances.

[@roguexxrenegade]

@@samuellane4437 This was amazingly well put. Thank you for saying this.

[@dylerturden8018]

Good lord, a voice of reason.....

[@Francodoublage]

Are you sure about that?

[@jeremyb2110]

It's not racist to not like the choice of actors it could of been a man if color or women if it had been someone I'd want to see

[@G.reviewz]

All my best wishes for him. Also im sick of all this stan culture and how people just look for the most bullshit nitpicky karen shit to rile people up. Thats all its for thats all it ever for im sure of it to piss people off.

[@Jack91790]

Chibnall really put Jodie in a real unfortunate position. I am sure she is grateful for the opportunity, but it was such a shame, cause she is a good actor. I am all for a new female Doctor in the future tho -- won't let a stunt casting or bad writing sour me on an entire gender of actors. Lol I don't think there is any problem with progressive messaging even, but if you have very bad writing, or ham-fisted, on-the-nose dialogue, then it just gives people who already have a problem with that a method of attack and it becomes quite difficult to defend when they say you are letting these things hamper the story. However, if you do progressive messaging with good acting, writing and dialogue, it will become much harder for them to attack. People ultimately just want a good show. I don't think Doctor Who will get away from progressive messaging, I simply think it will have good writing again.

[@tobymcquire4628]

Chibnall literally said in an interview he does not care for fan feedback or any critism. FUC K HIM

[@phily8093]

I think Jo Martin was woke casting as well. They thought "oh you have a problem with a woman being The Doctor, well try this on for size. It's just dumb luck on the team's part that she was very good. I don't care if The Doctor is a woman, is black, is gay, is trans, is anything, so long as they are a good actor, they have qualities inherent to the doctor, and the reasons for choosing them are genuine and not to tick a box. I personally think and hope The 14th Doctor will be one of the best yet, and think he is capable of drama and comedy in equal measure, and is full of eccentricity and personality. I have my fingers crossed.

[@rindao9928]

i really hope this guy pulls it off. Id love to see another matt smith style doctor, but i also get the sinking feeling that his casting is a repeat of chibnall in that hes been cast to say hes the first, not because hes a fit for the role. Call me racist all that you like, it doesnt matter to me but, in situations like this, where its such an iconic show, its important to not let the idea of Political correctness cloud the performance and importance of finding the right fit. The writing is also key, and that was another reason 13th was so abysmally received. Cast a female, cast a black man, do what ever, but do it because they fit, and the writing supports their style, not because theyre literally just black or female.

[@Dragonblaster1]

I’d like a Tom Baker - style Doctor

[@rockandrollfan470]

13 was woke casting. I don’t care what anyone says. While I hate the timeless children arc. Jo Martin was brilliant. But I hate the arc still passionately. She should have been number 13. Gatwa is a phenomenal actor. So excited.

[@DWboy14]

I'm waiting for the Steven and Anthony shippers now😂

[@CuriosityRocks]

*slides in to the room* 😎

[@h0lly_blue]

don't tempt the fates - we already summoned the Dan/Karvanista ship artists

[@grummanf-14tomcat8]

What I hate most is how the term "woke" has been turned into a negative buzzword meant to shut down arguments, like "liberal" or "progressive." And it got skunked so quickly too. Everytime someone calls someone else "woke," I expect the other person to be like "thank you."

[@stephjovi]

You hate that? In German right wing people started calling left leaning people Gutmensch which literally means good person. All of the sudden good person is an insult

[@roguexxrenegade]

@@stephjovi it’s quite obviously ironic.

[@Artdillpickle]

why people are saying the casting is woke but on the other hand there is genuine wokness pushed into doctor who as of late for awhile now and the show has gone down and this goes back to moffat being judged by the woke community which lead to more woke stuff in the show but even worse in Jodie’s run and now the new actor is played by an actor who’s known for playing a gay character and I think people are scared that there’s going to be more wokness after finally getting rid of Jodie’s doctor who with chibnall who just pushed it down the throat of its veiwers to the point of its detriment and the show losing viewers and by viewers I mean a lot to the point I’m surprised the shows still going

[@adamcharlie3151]

People have to remember that diversity is important- characters of all genders and sexual orientation can be written well… look at Captain Jack in series 1! A well written character who is charming and frankly a highlight of the RTD era

[@metalmugen]

Diversity is probably the least important part of writing a good story, don't fool yourself.

[@Scroteydada]

@@metalmugen no one said it was important to good writing, only that it's important.

[@adamcharlie3151]

@@metalmugen diversity is not important to writing a good story. Diversity is important generally. It can be written into stories well and I have faith RTD can do that.

[@MalcolmPrice82]

Interesting video. But explain police box tardis with Ruth doctor. If she's before hartnell, she wouldn't have a police box design, she wouldn't have landed in the 60s and buried it back then due to chameleon arch changes the biology of a time Lord meaning she'll age like a human. So Ruth doctor couldn't be before hartnell. Because we know hartnell didn't start with a police design until it got stuck in the first episode after leaving the 60s.

[@Votesaxon07Reviews]

The Doctor didn't have that Tardis until Hartnell. So maybe they had a different form of time travel or another tardis which was damaged. So they tracked down another tardis - not knowing where it came from - and it turns out this was the same tardis used by their future regeneration. The one with the broken chameleon circuit. After they were captured by Division and had their memory wiped, the time lords sent the police box back to the moment after it had been taken.

[@a_cats]

This is the best take on this casting choice that I've seen so far

[@thenerdsarchive9642]

Hi man. My issue is with what he was saying at the interviews about representation and being seen. That’s totally fine if those are his political beliefs and like many actors he could keep his politics out of the Character. It just doesn’t fill me with much optimism. I wish I had as much as you but after 5 years of Whittaker I’m still bitter 😅 End of the day we haven’t seen him play the roll so we can’t say it’s woke. BUT, we can’t say it’s not either 😅 I really tried not to say but 😂 Hope your all good man and got that sleep. Your right we all need to start being kinder.

[@Votesaxon07Reviews]

I understand where you're coming from as ideas of being recognaised and representation have been weaponised over the past decade. However as I said in a previous comment that should be seen as a by product of his being cast, and not as the primary factor. In the end all we can do is wait and see, but in the meantime all judgements on his choice should be reserved. For all we know he could be the best doctor ever, worst doctor ever, or just average. The whole point is we don't know yet because we can't know yet. But it never hurts to live in hope.

[@thenerdsarchive9642]

@@Votesaxon07Reviews absolutely Right man. I just don’t want to be gullible and spend the time from now till the 60th hoping it will get better when it won’t 😅 I’ve got my pals out there who still watch the show and I will listen to what they have to say. A little hope never hurt anyone. Of course if Doctor 14 turns out to be one of the best please message me to say eat it. But Yh, still quite bitter and don’t want to be fooled again as I was really excited when Jodie was announced and then just got kicked in the stomach. If Ncuti was picked because he was the best actor that auditioned then I will join you and watch with love as I think that’s something we can all agree on. We want good Doctor Who. Escapism not a lecture. But if he was chosen for woke reasons, well that in itself is racist. I truly hope that this woke agenda will end soon with Doctor who, being with Ncuti or a one day future Doctor. 👍🏻

[@davidharding1299]

I never liked the idea of the Doctor regenerating into a woman (to me, it just never made sense - and for the record, I don't want Susan or Romana played by men either)... but I find myself actually pretty excited to see Ncuti Gatwa's Doctor in action. I'd never heard of him before he was cast as the Doctor and I am completely unfamiliar with his past work... but that's okay. I've had that experience with most of the Doctor's... and it doesn't seem to affect my impressions of them once they become the incumbent Doctor. It's actually nice to be excited for the future of the show again, to be honest.

[@lenag2002]

I personally really enjoyed Jodie as the Doctor, but thought the writing was a bit weak. Personally, I couldn’t give a damn who plays the Doctor as long as the performance is fun to watch and the writing is good. I also felt that that the BBC tried to sell Doctor Who on the fact that the Doctor was a woman and I’m really worried that the BBC will try and sell Doctor Who on the fact that the 14th Doctor is being played by a person of colour.

[@simonjones1017]

Actually, having seen the rest of the video your totally correct.

[@xsm5525]

you're

[@simonjones1017]

@@xsm5525 does that make you feel superior correcting a spelling mistake? Dear god you need to get out more mate. You're an idiot

[@Enderman121_]

I’d love if Russell just says that someone (possibly the celestial toymaker) just went to ridiculous lengths to fuck with the doctor and made up the entire thing

[@GabrielLucasGreen]

This 30 min video had more solid ideas than this entire era of Who

[@generickitty50]

Good on you for standing up too the people who wont give him a chance

[@dude8223]

It's also racist to hire someone based on.... race. I don't care what color the Doctor is, the writing is what matters.

[@amss6433]

The problem where woke shows and movies is going is blowing a trumpet and waving a flag at being “progressive” it’s not about the person’s background it’s the fact they making a song and dance about it and reminding everyone at every opportunity and unfortunately people being miscasted or let down cos this political message and some roles are suited for others based on the acting skills of that person and the character they are playing some people are versatile some ain’t you get one dimensional actors it’s like a football team some players are not as versatile as others but their strengths are so good you have to include them to you put them in a position where you can exploit this strength also casting for political reasons and disregarding the story and character and original source material if it derives from a book etc and I like what you said mate your personal life is yours and doesn’t matter your videos are about reviews etc and you doing a good job and that’s what matters said this countless times it’s not about person background it’s about whether the skills when it comes to job and the role and requirements too for example if you want a undercover copper to do a sting operation on a Eastern European gang you get someone who has the skills and also blend into their environment not choose someone for diversity sake cos that would fuck the operation up and their cover would be blown

[@joelmole3157]

I think what helps soften the blow of these is characters like The General and The Master. The General regenerated from an old white man to a young black woman and apparently, that old white man was the only time The General was male. So it wasn't that far-fetched for the Doctor to become a woman after a long line of dudes. What seals the deal is The Master/Missy. Not only did the Master regenerate into a woman but the next time we see them after The Doctor Falls, he's a person of colour. So now we think: 'Oh! Time Lords can change race! It's not just The General'. So it is easier to accept Ncuti Gatwa and to a lesser extent Jodie Whittaker as the Doctor because other Time Lords have done it before.

[@HollowWeird]

Oh you think its racist to think that they are hiring them because they fit a check mark. Well, the problem is the show has a history of that. That is why people are saying that. We think its racist to do it also. But claiming its racist to call the real racist out, yeah you're true colors are showing. You are basically defending racism by calling anyone that doesn't like this type of racism racist. I think I know who the real racist is.

[@TheGungunnerson]

Doctor who , star trek to name a couple have been attacked for their creative decisions or casting reasons or the direction they have taken and it's the usual certain youtubers are crying into their milk and throwing out their toys because of the direction the said franchises and they come out with "not my Doctor " .... or "it's not Star Trek" ...... and now it has evolved into a hate campaign that they can't switch off from .

[@delaceylehane7758]

Watch the shows. The backlash is fair in almost all cases

[@careytaylor9014]

I mean, the Timelords have messed with the Doctor's regenerations before. In The War Games, they forced the Second Doctor to regenerate and choose his own face. (Which he wasted by being picky) and even then, the Third Doctor had the knowledge of how to fly the TARDIS taken from his memory when he was exiled to Earth so, it's a pretty interesting thought they might have finally come back to with The Timeless Children

[@wookieezzz2551]

I'm happy with the casting and excited for the new season. However to say someone getting hired for their skin colour isn't being racist. It happens, and it wouldn't shock me if that was the BBC's plan to do so. Not saying anything about it being woke or PC I'm just saying that it's quite likely the showmakers wanted a black actor in the role.

[@a_watch_enthusiast2149]

I mainly know him from sex education and thought he was great in that. I'm looking forward to what he brings i just hope we get the Doctor back. I don't remember jodie ever getting angry, doing a big powerful speech, being smugg or showing any true emotion, anything to show this is the doctor this is someone who has lived a long line that's been through he'll and back.

[@RogueWJL]

I agree.

[@davidbarry9690]

People are entitled to there own opinion,.

[@4facedshepherd59]

If I can get my 2 cents in here. All shows, movies, really many more things in entertainment put out descriptions of what they need these characters in their rolls to look like. Obviously in order to cast Gatwa, skin color was part of that description. If that wasn't the case then it's a massive coincidence that Black, Asian, female, etc. characters rarely veer from those identities. I'm going to be broad here because I follow this channel for the Battlebots reviews and don't have much of an interest in Dr. Who. I'm not familiar with Gatwa either but I feel that I can give him the benefit of the doubt because I trust how you described his performances. Tokenization and the actor playing the tokenized character are very different and a very good and respectable actor can happen to be playing a tokenized character. A good example is Samuel Jackson's Nick Fury. Fury was white when he was introduced yet Jackson's interpretation of the character was very well done and backed up with good writing especially in the earlier Marvel movies. That alone doesn't mean he should have been race-swapped, and that opinion faults the people that decided to swap him, not who he was swapped in for. It's the same for bringing in a black Dr.; Gatwa isn't a 'diversity hire' because he didn't get the job solely on being black, but being black was likely a requirement, just that it wasn't the only requirement. The first 12 Dr.'s roles likely had 'Caucasian male' as a requirement too. Many studios have diversity quotas and many have openly disclosed that; there's no way they form those quotas and don't pick which characters are going to have which identities. Overall I don't believe that everyone arguing against a black Dr. is doing so in good faith but please don't equate that to everyone being skeptical of it to being racists. I'm open to clear up anything about my own takes here. That's all I've got to say; it's not my franchise after all so I can't address it head on.

[@Terranz25us]

Nick fury in the comics was black at the time and actually based on Samuel l Jackson. So there was no race swap done in that case.

[@4facedshepherd59]

@@Terranz25us not exclusively because of his movie appearances no but he was white before they changed him. He's still tokenized in that regard.

[@ANGELROB_YTC]

The doctor stole his own tardis thanks to help from Clara who told him which one to take maybe she knew more about the doctor or it could be possible that its just one of those sonic screwdriver time loops know one really knows the origin of the loop but she know which tardis to tell him to take it because she flies around in that tardis with him and that tardis was owned by the previous mind wiped version of himself

[@WesTheHunter]

But come on. Is it racist. Are the people saying "He Got Cast For That Reason" Racist or is it the people who casted him for that reason Racist ? Diversity Quotas in Jobs are a very real thing. Are the ones who disagree with it Racist ? Or the people who don't think "Diverse" people are good enough to get into jobs on their own talent and skill ?

[@WesTheHunter]

The Main issue is. We've got people who don't care about Doctor Who. Writing, Directing and Acting who don't really care and just get paid.

[@JarJarBinksStan]

I stumbled across a sarah jane clip where matt smith has a very similar thing to the 'i could have two heads' line where clyde asks if he could become another race

[@VortexJae]

I don't normally jump onto head-canons or anything like that, but your explanation/proposal for why the Doctor had been a man for so long and only now that's all changing just fits too perfectly for me to ignore. And also how all the Timeless Children stuff clicks into it as well? Brilliant! Here's to a refreshing, new era of Who, Ncuti will be stellar! Edit: Just thought I'd say that I've always been accepting of anyone as the Doctor so the sudden change of actors never phased me in anyway, Dr Who is about change! I just thought this theory fit too well to ignore :D!

[@beeshampersad2049]

Yeah okay brother I get what you're saying but for me Tom Baker was the best doctor who franchise and Tom Baker is doctor who that's all to it 🤔🧐🙏🤘

[@therattlesnake1614]

You've Hit The nail on the head just chill and enjoy the next chapter of Dr who 😎👍

[@steveandjeanniefrith236]

Ncuti has a lot of energy but does he have gravitas. I worry he might be too silly. I've seen clips of Sex Education.

[@mahfuzurchowdhury2765]

I didn't that Matt Smith would have "gravitas" until I saw his first episode.

[@steveandjeanniefrith236]

@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 Well I'd seen him with Billie Piper in Ruby in the Smoke so I had some hope.

[@Suspect_27]

decent but doesn't explain why they would let the doctor out of there sight and see the universe, my solution is to just ignore the Chibnall era... ignorance is bliss

[@jonahvenables8917]

I really like your take on the timelords making the doctor look the opposite of the fugitive doctor by making him a white male, however when Patrick Troughton was shown a catalogue of what he could choose to look like by the timelords, one of the results was a black man so I think that might be a slight hole in the theory Edit: actually maybe your right because the timelords didn't end up choosing what he looked like and he just regenerated on his own so I guess he still wasn't tampered with since the timelords turned him into a child so your theory still makes sense and maybe the timelords just forgot that he was meant to look the opposite of the fugitive doctor.

[@sweiland75]

You're a victim of Wokeness. I recognize he may have been hired because he is black and I don't care about that except we must acknowledge that there may have been a better actor for the role, irrespective of their colour, and we will never know. i am approaching his casting the same way I approached the previous actors: wait and see. The last casting for the Doctor I enjoyed was David Tennant. I hope that Ncuti's performance will match if not exceed that of Tennant's.

[@TheMijoAaron]

No way u didn’t like Matt Smith? :( He was foreboding, aggressive even at times, but passionate and intense.

[@PD-ws4td]

Okay, I’m 2 minutes in so if you are contradicting yourself later in the video, my apologies. You have it all wrong, this has nothing to do with racism. Racism is hate, prejudice, discrimination, etc, towards a particular race of humans; this has nothing to do with it. It doesn’t matter whether they had cast an Asian, a middle astern, a Mexican, or even an eskimo instead, what we are reacting to is how BBC is pushing its “woke” or diversity agenda. I personally just find it curious that the next doctor just “happened” to be black right after they had cast a female doctor, that’s all. If a black doctor happened at random, then I wouldn’t bat an eye, but now it just feels forced. There have been many good scripts that have been dropped, scrapped, or ruined simply because it didn’t meet up with diversity standards. With that said, considering RTD is the new lead-writer for the show and the fact that Ncuti Gatwa has a good track record, I’m sure he will make a great doctor and I’m excited to see his debut. Again, it’s the forced diversity that is being questioned and it has nothing to do with hate against other races or cultures.

[@afgor1088]

why should anyone bother reading whatever gibberish you wrote if you've got too short an attention span or too small an intellect to watch and understand a 30 minute video? your opinion is about as valuable as a movie review by someone who's never seen the movie

[@PD-ws4td]

@@afgor1088 If you have anything intelligent or constructive to say, I’ll be here.

[@autumnmatthews3179]

Couldn't agree more. I checked out Sex Education once I saw the casting, and I can't wait to see Ncuti as the Doctor. So much sass!

[@nickoftimeproductions8719]

I just don’t see any reason whatsoever to be upset by this casting.

[@mahfuzurchowdhury2765]

Oh because "He'S bLaCk aNd GaY"

[@MetaCinemaYT]

I also really liked the Timeless Child twist on my first viewing. After two whole seasons of just BORING junk that lead nowhere, it was really refreshing to have a tease for a plot I couldn't even begin to understand. It felt like when The Impossible Astronaut aired for the first time and we all saw the Doctor straight up die. My initial thought then was "Oh wow! I wonder how they're gonna write themselves out of this!" with a huge grin on my face. I didn't particularly choose one side or the other when I saw people argue about the Timeless Child. But when Flux came out, I was on top of the world. Jodie kinda took a back seat while the plot just went crazy and I was loving it. Every episode was so well done! ...until the finale... None of the plot was wrapped up in any satisfying way. The characters all turned out to be unimportant and a waste of time. Doctor Who returned to being Chibnall's garbage that he didn't know what to do with. So as of now, the past few years of the show have been a waste. I really hope RTD addresses the arc and either spins it into something worthwhile or erases it entirely. I have high hopes for Ncuti and his talents!

[@elwoodjacobs4353]

I know nothing about the man himself, so I can't say anything him as an actor or person, but I can say this: reverse the races. If the Doctor had been black from the get-go & 50 years later a white guy took over, people today would *TORCH* the BBC. What drives me up the wall is that ever since Missy, the show runners have been trying to reinvent canon by claiming that regeneration is 100% random, which if you've been a DW for any length of time, you know that ain't the case. Yes, the Time Lord's appearance & accent would change, but up until Missy, they would always stay the same gender & skin color. The Doctor, Romana, & the Master all fall into that distinction. If regeneration was *truly* random, they would've started changing gender & skin in the Classic era.

[@DWboy14]

Yeah your right if they had been reversed everyone would be calling the BBC racist

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

But they wouldn't torch the BBC. The point of the Doctor is that they can look like anyone. Yeah, we'd be nuts if they recasted Luther with a white actor, but the normal rules of diverse casting don't apply to a character that's famous for changing their face.

[@joelmole3157]

To be fair, Doctor Who canon is pretty smegged. We didn't even know the name of the Doctors' species until The War Games or that he was even an alien at all. Heck, regeneration itself was added in last minute to find a way to replace Hartnell and keep the show going. Change can be a good thing if interesting things are done with it!

[@somerandomguy2073]

The Doctor's monk mentor friend regenerated from an old white guy to a young Asian guy in Planet of the Spiders (well, he was supposed to be Asian, if you ignore the yellow face).

[@elwoodjacobs4353]

@@TheSmart-CasualGamer *YEEEAAAH. RIIIIIGHT.*

[@whitewolf55673]

Why is it racist to think he was hired because he's black? BBC boast about diversity all the time. It's one of their goals so why is it unreasonable to question if he's just another diversity hire? The doctor is an established white man. Would it not be racist to change the race of characters that are black? What if I changed characters like Blade from Marvel or John Stewart (Green Lantern) ,who are established black characters, into white men? What do you think the reaction would be?

[@NSE465]

Ncuti Gatwa, is a decent actor. Not been a fan of sex education because... the entire series is an akward subject its nothing to do with him. So Ive said Ill give him a shot. The racist comments about him becoming the doctor... May I remind anyone whos watched the fucking show that he regerates. All his cells regenerate making a new body for his "new life", a clever cashcow method milking itself over and over but also gives others a chance to play the role. Now lets rewind a tad, regenerates every cell. In what fucking universe the doctor ends up in does it say "regenerates to a white man every single damn time"? It doesnt. Jodie is a prime example atm. While her stories were unfortunate (down to chibby not her) she shows what power the role has and how anyone can be the doctor in some form. Colour is out of the question. Infact, Im happy we get to have a coloured doctor. Im curious to see the spin Ncuti could put on it. Dont get what I mean? Reread this comment.

[@dgma626]

I think he's too young for the role

[@CosmicNerdStudios]

@@dgma626 fair, tho he's older than Smith was on casting and the same age as Davison when he was cast as 5

[@dgma626]

@@CosmicNerdStudios yeah Matt Smith looker old than he actually was

[@j.l.blankenship5104]

what if if has nothing to do with color or gender I just dont like his acting thus far

[@Littletime839]

It's woke casting because the role of a white man is going to a black man (or white woman). Can you imagine a much admired black character (eg. Luther) being played by a newly appointed white actor or a woman?

[@a_cats]

I don't understand that argument. As soon as William Hartnell was replaced by someone as different as Patrick Troughton, the whole idea of limiting future Doctors to be someone like the previous was thrown out of the window in my opinion. I'd even say skin colour is less significant than things like personality traits, especially in this context.

[@Littletime839]

@@a_cats skin colour (or gender) should be irrelevant yet it is because of those exact attributes the most recent two were selected.

[@a_cats]

@@Littletime839 Did you watch the video?

[@Littletime839]

@@a_cats LOL, no! (Busted). Watched about 30 seconds and then left a rant.

[@h0lly_blue]

Luther isn't a Time Lord

[@johnbutcher2587]

brilliant breakdown of the problem with i’m not racist but . I honestly think they don’t realise they are racist but they are. also good explanation why jo was great and matt smith. very intelligent breakdown of how people are stuck in there ways and that sometimes leeds them down the hate of wokeness. A good understanding of the problem would stop them thinking everything is woke and actual stop the things that do go to far in diversity casting when it isn’t based on talent

[@delaceylehane7758]

Open your eyes, fool. Racism doesn’t come into it

[@Budbrothers420]

Think the problem is because he going to make doctor who gay with RTD which is my biggest problem sexuality shouldn’t really be a part of doctor who most certainly not the actual doctor what happened to it being about time and space travel. Now it’s just a let’s include everyone situations it takes meaning from this alienated character and turns it into a mockery I’m fine with a black actor as it could open up different challenges for the doctor especially in the past if done right but they can actually end it if it’s going to be look all our cast are gay bi and trans, as a non binary person it’s just embarrassing...

[@Owwzzzz]

I've got no idea who the guy is, but its the same old story- if the writings shit hes doesnt stand a chance. Its not discrimination.. Capaldi's first season was shite- poor writing, Whitakers entire run.. shite writing. It's not woke casting, but it does lend itself to an entire story arc of OH LOOK IM NOT WHITE ANYMORE, thats what the majority of normal people are worried about, the fact we're going to have an entire story based around how hes not white or that he's treated differently for having different coloured skin. so dont fight "woke culture" or "the racists", fight the shite writing. If the story is good no one with a brain cell will give a shit.

[@boomerdoug4242]

Great video.You have beautifully verbalised many of my thoughts and concerns about this new Doctor. I am 65 year old Doctor Who fan (albeit a casual viewer). I remember watching William Hartnell as a child and the magical feeling I experienced.Its almost a pity that we can now scrutinize every episode to such a degree..Like many Doctor Who fans I hang onto that magical feeling and cannot wait to see what RTD has in store for us.

[@takingthrone7693]

Quick question what are the odds of this Doctor who becoming gay. Answer A : 100% happening in the first episode Answer B : 80% happening in the second episode Answer C : 50% happening in the fifth episode Answer D : 1,080% chance of him happening in all the episodes

[@Ah-px5uf]

I haven't watched black panther and i won't watch the new Doctor who. I will watch black female porn stars though. I'll tug to them all day, curious

[@Votesaxon07Reviews]

Racist and sexist? Well, aren't you a delight?

[@stephjovi]

I always feel like as long as everyone is old enough and consenting I don't give a fuck who someone shares their heart and bed with. I haven't watched sex education but I have seen some clips and from fun quirky doctor ish stuff to very serious scenes he handles them all very well. Couldn't care less if he's straight gay bi pan omni who cares

[@annemccullough2182]

The thing is hes pretty private never stating sexuality, some people just think its token casting becuase hes black

[@sarahspaceslippers]

I am very excited for Ncuti as the role. After watching some clips of him in sex education I can see that he is a good actor, definitely will bring a lot of energy into the role and as a bonus it's about time we had a black Doctor. I was hoping for Richard Ayoade as a lot of fans also saw Richard in the role, but he might not even have auditioned. Either way, I am very pleased Ncuti is the new Doctor and I can't wait to see what acting choices he makes about how he will play the role, he will certainly bring something new to the table.

[@therattlesnake1614]

I don't believe whittaker was miscast it was Chris chibnall who sucked if it was RTD writing for whittaker totally different story it would've been better and more enjoyable but chibnall sucks at writing sci-fi 😎👍

[@alexthehunted]

All those "fans" thought rtd wouldn't be "woke" forget rtd had doctor have a gay kiss in his first series rtd one of uk best writers he will do a great job as usual

[@DWboy14]

They are fans even if you don't like it

[@alexthehunted]

@@DWboy14 there are also people who claim to be fans but only starting talking about doctor who when jodie was cast like nerdtronic clown fish ect

[@annaclarafenyo8185]

I'm not racist, but I think that all the hateful commentators were only hired to comment racist comments because of their race.

[@DfiftyMusic]

Thank you, that’s what I’ve been saying 😂

[@blakenolen5062]

Bro, it's not racist at all; Doctor who has been going down this woke rabbit hole for years, people are just speaking out the truth

[@royalewithcheese9291]

Great discussion piece Stephen. Completely understand where your coming from with the Whittaker/Chbinall era - although I would say that I have enjoyed it for the most part (or at least the ideas he was trying to convey) I fully appreciate that the story of the timeless child could have been told a hell of a lot better. Your theory on why the Doctor has always been a white male is actually really intriguing. I personally thought the only explanation needed is that its an alien that can completely rewrite their DNA on a molecular level but apparently some people can't fathom that. Expanding on your theory a little bit, maybe the regeneration energy given to the Doctor could've been the Timelords performing some sort of blood ritual - so the reason that the Doctor would change race or gender would be a result of the "donor" being of that race or gender. Dunno if I explained that well but that's what I was thinking of when you were explaining your theory. As for the casting itself, I'm really intrigued to see where this new era will take the show. I have never heard of Ncuti before and having spent quite a bit of time finding out more about him, I find it fascinating that I can't guess how he will play the role but the fact that RTD was originally going with someone else before Ncuti came along proves the decision was based entirely on whether he was the right fit (which is how all casting decisions should be decided) and I wish him all the best 😎.

[@williamrufatobotura2545]

I think we need to wait to see if he was a woke cast… It will depend of his performance. He is a very good actor, but still… he never played an old character. Jodie Whitaker was the worst Doctor until today… I think she was a woke cast.

[@therattlesnake1614]

Now after ncuti gatwa can we please have a baldy beardy Dr who please 🤞

[@marvelsomething1952]

The second solution thingy. What if their very first incarnation was ginger and they also made it so they could never regenerate into someone ginger. Also, how do you get around the fugitive Dr having a police box TARDIS?