The 2021 Volkswagen ID4 Is a New Fully Electric $40,000 Crossover

[@antonkan4665]

Next generation: the steering wheel is replaced with a touchscreen that you have to tap-tap-tap to turn left or right...

[@Jucamech]

A joystick

[@paveantelic7876]

Well F1 and gt3 cars have basically joysticks for steering wheels

[@TakuroSpirit77]

Nah, you just long press it annnnnnd you're in the ditch

[@gtracer1729]

Nah man, control by hand gestures is the future 😂

[@sohamshirur2291]

@@paveantelic7876 They still have steering wheels

[@Seedcadets]

Nah Doug, that’s not the “strangest white” thing in that car.....

[@theboogeyman5736]

Underrated comment

[@hillytheflea]

@@theboogeyman5736 came to type this.

[@PalpatinesPlumber]

Damn, you got there first

[@Fanboy1222]

He is

[@elkcinrepmup]

😂😂😂

[@BuffalonianResolution]

VW designers: let's take all of the interior bits that are touched the most ... and make them white.

[@dgdw]

Yes!! I noticed the same thing. I wonder how long the steering wheel will keep looking clean

[@linusheinemann3952]

Its an option

[@LiBazBubble]

You can get it also in Black 🤷‍♂️

[@Luca-yy4xy]

You can also get it in Black.

[@jeffk464]

Reminds me of the white bar tape on my road bike. Its all black and grey now by the way.

[@500445]

Doug, I've been watching your unbiased opinion for years now and simply love your car reviews. Lately I've watched your reviews of the oncoming electric cars (Mach E and ID.4). One thing that is missing in your reviews of EV's is the charging capability of each vehicle. I think it is an important factor in the decision making of an EV. Keep up the good work 💪.

[@dydxeq0]

Doug's review is very unbiased. However, just like Doug said on one of his clip, he gives higher score to sports cars. So his reviews are very good but his scoring is a bit biased.

[@ssaxmanful]

This has to be the first RWD vw in America in over 30 years. That’s a massive quirk

[@KeweenawPatriot]

And it will only take you twice as long to travel anywhere.

[@aribloch]

@@KeweenawPatriot How often do most people drive more than 200 miles at a time?

[@Demobot1]

@@aribloch right. For average day to day this car is almost perfect.

[@ssaxmanful]

@@ritawant3189 wtf is wrong with you bro

[@reubinthomas]

@@Demobot1 A day to day car is the one you fill up and forget till you get a fuel low or service warning. Hence Toyota sells a lot of them. Its not that hard to understand. I'm really getting tired of you electric folks.

[@DeltaEcho303]

That Heated Seat button is like a meeting to plan a meeting.

[@renejahn8414]

one touch on the field with two fingers, where you adjust the temperature, and the Seatheater is on...

[@travisneill704]

OMG, YES!

[@drscopeify]

Perfect analogy. Looks like they took lessons from Acura :)

[@truckstreestoys]

Are you stopping? No, I'm pausing.

[@AngelValdovinos]

You ain't funny

[@ThatCarGuy2]

@@AngelValdovinos Your comment isn't necessary or funny.

[@gaming_legend_tx2185]

not funny

[@jhonyuriel9215]

😅👍

[@nicholashennessy6740]

“The system can tell you a joke, a bad joke, it is a German car after all.” Lmao classic Doug

[@ravencrestmedia]

If people doubt that Germans lack a sense of humor have yet to see the German Forklift training video. Search for it. :)

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@ravencrestmedia I am german and Doug is spot on :) We say here: "Wir gehen zum Lachen in den Keller" we have a different kind of humour, not so obvious

[@hassmichael7246]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 „Der geht zum Lachen in den Keller“ ist negativ gemeint, an eine humorlose Person gerichtet.

[@ZGryphon]

@@ravencrestmedia Good old Klaus. He meant well!

[@captainrex8769]

Marques Brownlee reviewed the Mercedes-Benz EQS and told the car to tell him a joke. The car said: “Sorry, my engineers were German”

[@AimPointMG]

This dropped right as I went on my lunch break - today’s a good day

[@andysedgley]

And as I went on my evening meal break - I swear Doug is discriminating against me by not dropping videos in the UK as early as he does in the US. 🤣

[@TheMrGamingg]

No way homie me too🤘🏻

[@Postbus22]

Every Tuesday and Thursday at the exact same time😉

[@CameronCC]

Same here lmao

[@yaboi8616]

Lunch gang

[@mdramsey]

"Hello ID....I'm cold." ID4: "That's because you aren't wearing your normal two T-shirt outfit, Doug."

[@VolkerHett]

THIS .... would have been a very ungerman joke. I should know, I'm German.

[@JarnoScw]

@@VolkerHett Deutsche Witze sind ganz wunderbar

[@PSOL]

Notice how Doug didn’t call cars and bids his “new” website this time

[@automation7295]

It's not "new" anymore, it's 1 year old.

[@cadriver2570]

I drove this tonight and it was way more maneuverable than my X3 M40I at lower speeds (under 40). Being silent and torquey the power was better too under 40 mph. The acceleration is great for what it is.

[@mrmangolele8574]

That Infotainment system loads like GTA loading screen.

[@windshield11]

You know it brother, Online is literally unplayable!

[@KriLL325783]

Yeah and pretty sure that's due to low specs on the processor running the screen, I doubt a software update can solve it.

[@careem3463]

@@KriLL325783 cpu aint worth shit once you in the car industry prices. 146% its software issue

[@mrmangolele8574]

@@Brianz99😂😂 it's really that bad??

[@vautier_]

Yeah, and he really dug in on it. But in his 2021 Ferrari Roma review, he had no negative comments about the car's screens, which were just as bad as these or worse. Screens which hosted an insanely laggy, limited and unintuitive UI. A USD $250k+ car that has screens with an experience similar to an Android phone from 2011, yet he said nothing. Hmmm..

[@philp7012]

4 years later a university discovers this car actually has a quiet v12

[@superior7387]

😂 The electric gate

[@peytonstw]

4 years later the steering wheel is black

[@superior7387]

@@peytonstw just like the pollution from their fake electric engimes

[@peytonstw]

@@superior7387 lmaooo

[@andrewnguyen7737]

A quite W12

[@theboogeyman5736]

I don’t like all those touch sensitive “buttons”

[@emperorzalsibuar451]

I don't know what was ever wrong with normal buttons. Why replace it with a less intuitive system that will collect fingerprints and never look clean after the first month?

[@shroomyesc]

@@emperorzalsibuar451 It's cheaper to produce and easier to market.

[@gavcom4060]

@@emperorzalsibuar451 less moving things to break, cheaper, appeals to a tech savvy audience, etc

[@gavcom4060]

if you every had an iPhone 7 you’d know that a touch sensitive button feels just as good, or even better than a physical button

[@Pertie]

It’s super annoying I have used them quite frequently. this car seems like they didn’t involve any ux experts

[@MrKnifeart]

lagging info system is a KILLER, even if this had 1000 milage and 700hp

[@regular_goof]

Infotainment systems were always 10 years behind in VWs. For example bluetooth was starting to be pretty common in cars and for vw to have it as standard you had to wait circa 5 to 10 years longer + the first headunits that got it were unreasonably expensive. Hope they will have a better hw and sw team dedicated to this and it changes for the better. Its unacceptable for this time we live in.

[@giacomu1]

@@regular_goof US spec is not the same as the one in EU. In US VW, Audi use engines that are 10 years old in EU. I can confirm with my Audi. Why? Because in US competition is non-existent. Just use old stuff from EU and make money. Easy money.

[@caidee]

@@giacomu1 Because US doesn't has the same regulations we do

[@fynfynsidian1870]

if running v2.1 software release the bugs are resolved

[@rosco0101]

@@regular_goof My 2010 Golf TDI had a 6.5 inch touchscreen and Bluetooth as standard. I'm not sure how many cars had Bluetooth as standard 5-10 year before that.

[@AGlimpseInside]

The accelerator pedal is it’s own KZbin play button. Awe... so cute!

[@eddieg28sp]

I didn't get a 100k button for my channel so this would be a crappy consolation prize 😕😫

[@AGlimpseInside]

@@eddieg28sp I honestly got mine after I opened up a customer service chat with Google I told him what I wanted they said hold on one second let me verify you it was in the mail the next week

[@rjt135]

Thanks, I hate it

[@tobiasnaylor]

@@eddieg28sp you need to redeem it, if you still dont you can order a new one on society awards

[@Miata822]

I think it is a really cute idea and surprised nobody has done it before. Shows VW's playful side. I really hope we see an ID.3 GTi equivalent. Surprised there hasn't been a Small-EV-Big-Motor "hot hatch" EV yet, but you know it's coming.

[@miketeeveedub5779]

VW VP: "We hate our customers. What materials should we use for controls?" Engineer #1: "black piano finish!" Engineer #2: "White leather and plastic stalks and knobs!" VW VP: "Why not both?!" Everyone high-fives each other!

[@AmandaAcresHomestead]

"Okay! So the system can tell you a joke... a BAD joke, it is German afterall..." Amazing.

[@richardparnell8402]

@Xavier likes Technology As a non German I agree with you.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

The German joke goes like this: Was essen Elektroautos am liebsten? - Parkplätzchen! 🤣

[@fashioncorpse]

German comedy is no laughing matter.

[@wermagst]

Here's a proper German joke: How many Germans does it take to screw in a light bulb? One, because they are efficient and have no sense of humour.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@wermagst Germans have long since replaced inferior light bulbs with ze highly efficient and long lasting LEDs. 😅

[@leerothman7570]

I just picked up a Pro S ID4 the other day. Your assessment of the Infotainment system must be regarding a pre release model. Mine is VERY responsive and easy to use. Once you view some instruction video's regarding it's setup it's a "no brainer" and makes a lot more sense. The ride quality actually surpasses Tesla but I'm sure since it's not a 0-60 in 3 seconds car you won't care.

[@mtumasz]

I returned a test car after 24h and a 100 miles just yesterday. Very impressed with the tech, particularly the smart headlights (which U don’t get in US) and the Augmented HUD. Speach recognition worked surprisingly well even in my native Polish. This is quite an achievement as even Siri still does not speak this language.

[@ryangascoignergrg]

Don't know what they were thinking. They have needlessly overcomplicated the most simple things

[@qqqPoopppelppp]

As a german im ashamed

[@siraff4461]

Same as most electric cars. It seems like they have to have dumb ideas baked in to make them different. Of course they miss the point that things like buttons have been developed over the last 100 years or so until they work well with the human form so changing it for the sake of newness is almost always making it worse.

[@ProJC]

It really makes a Tesla so appealing to buy when compared to other electric vehicles on the market. At least with Tesla, everything you think is a function, actually works as the function. Display is super intuitive, smooth, and everything you need is displayed immediately in front of you. The only downfall is honestly the windshield wipers. lmao

[@ryangascoignergrg]

@@siraff4461 Exactly! I understand having to make cars more modern, but simple things you use everytime should be buttons. Would those touch controls even work with gloves on?

[@ryangascoignergrg]

@@ProJC It is interesting how although Tesla had moved even more into infotainment than VW, they managed to pull it off. I've never been in one before but it looks like they've got the layout sorted

[@tehgamist7139]

The load time on that screen was simply tragic.

[@Sgt_Glory]

It was painful to watch, and considering how many car options need to be set through it, if the production version is like that I can see that being a deal-breaker for many.

[@raphi25895]

12:32 to switch on the seat heating, simply tap with two fingers on the warmer and colder surface for the air conditioning control. 5:42 if you hold the rear control panel for a long time, you can open the front and rear windows at the same time. 17:30 in the final version the small storage compartment is replaced by a control panel for the rear air conditioning system

[@EARTHKEENING]

You own one ? I have a question.

[@raphi25895]

@@EARTHKEENING no, but I've driven it several times. maybe I can still answer your question?

[@EARTHKEENING]

@@raphi25895 is the pro edition has more mileage than the 1st edition?

[@raphi25895]

@@EARTHKEENING these are actually the same cars, but the driving data is improved by newer software versions, i.e. approx. 40-60km more range.

[@onur.oezdemir]

@@EARTHKEENING you can get the same mileage out of both if you have the newest update (2.4 currently, soon 3.0/3.1) The mileage solely depends on the size of the battery. If both have the 77kwh battery both will get around the same mileage, the same with the 58 or 44kwh battery

[@noorghani5053]

Bought this car and we are so happy with our purchase. We didn't know this was coming out and were about to buy the model y but then we saw this. I recommend this car to everyone in the market for an ev suv. The quality of materials and everything is laid out very well and not to mention the range is actually what VW said unlike Tesla who overstate the actual range of their cars. Now we are waiting for the BMW i4 to open pre orders!

[@louisvilleslugger6806]

How much was it after federal tax credits? Did you get the AWD version?

[@khalidalotaibi8761]

@@louisvilleslugger6806 it's not available yet in the united states as far as I know ,but in dubai/middle east hongkong/china and eu it's really quite affordable 35k if your getting the Crozz model which's the tip top ,and then you have the id5 the cross over version similar to the porsche cayenne and bmw x6 and finally the id6 if you're looking for a large suv similar to chevys and gmc Yukon

[@w1n73rf3ll]

@@khalidalotaibi8761 ...it's avaliable in the states

[@VESTIGE888]

VW can develop software to cheat emission tests in 2008 but not a responsive infotainment system in 2021

[@daviddill5227]

Priorities, priorities!

[@bhongtastic]

this comment deserves more likes

[@johannesu8006]

to be fair not even the emission cheat software was developed by VW. They let Bosch develop it for them

[@Konve]

I wish electric car makers would stop reinventing features. Door handles is top of the list of perfectly good things that don't need fixing.

[@Sadslantyface]

You are a nobody

[@vish6351]

It helps with aerodynamics and therefore improves the electric range u knowwww cos less drag👨‍🎓👨‍🏫 Thank u for coming to my TED talk🤓

[@brycegum_221]

true but Tesla can pull off cars that appear handless pretty well in my opinion

[@jordanseay216]

I wish people , especially the lawmakers would see the staggering amount of benefits to using liquid hydrogen rather than pure electricity. It would cost a lot of money for the infrastructure to be put in place but I think it would be very worth it!

[@wendysremix]

@@vish6351 Uhh go look at most of the door handles in the 90s a lot of cars had flush door handles and they worked fine

[@9rows]

Doug: I'm 6'3" Also Doug: I'm 6'4" Also Also Doug: I'm a rather tall adult

[@seanbrewer1232]

He's lying every time. Everybody knows that Doug is two small children standing on each other's shoulders pretending to be an adult.

[@luxair1997andTAP]

Rest of the world: ???????

[@PaulMansfield]

Doug only knows his height in metric and can't do math.

[@slacksci]

He's 6'2 with only one t-shirt, and 6'3+ with multiple shirts, worn over each other. Pants would add +2 inches but this a purely short-pants program.

[@grimmstarkk5795]

@@seanbrewer1232 exactly

[@tonystolz4982]

Hello ID, "I'm Cold" ....."You shouldn't have invaded the eastern front." - ID

[@GHinWI]

Too soon!

[@EdwardCheek]

Wow, good one!

[@rebel4721]

I see what you did there

[@drscopeify]

Except that the ID4 is made in Tennessee and not Germany lol

[@sebastianalfonsolievano7772]

Well, damn! User... I can't control the weather! Lol

[@KirbyLouis]

when "intuitive" becomes the most inefficient and annoying car controls ever

[@77Infidel]

More stuff to keep from paying attention while driving. As a bonus it seems to not work when new, so what happens when this car has 50,000 miles? It will be in the shop more than on the road.

[@SoteloAldo94]

Ikr, what's wrong with a climate and volume knob

[@aaronjudt3096]

@@77Infidel its a modern VW... which means it probably wont last 50000miles without a dozen or so dealership visits.

[@77Infidel]

@@aaronjudt3096 my 71 Super Beetle, awesome. My 77 Golf, awesome. My 2002 VR6, biggest POS ever. Last VW for me. You speak the truth.

[@YeeSoest]

The climate/volume/ventilation setting thing works alright, I've seen worse. I don't know why everyone has to come up with new ideas and less intuitive stuff where we have working solutions in place but at least they allow sliding motions which ends up feeling pretty standard and intuitive after a week or so

[@Blacktouch2000]

"Let's take everything people hate about their phones and put it in a car"

[@mannyechaluce3814]

EXACTLY ! give it 9 hour charging time and very short battery life :D

[@mulsanne1]

While we're at it, let's make the things used the most *white*

[@Dagreatdudeman]

@@mulsanne1 God, I love stains.

[@mulsanne1]

@@Dagreatdudeman I know right, I'd love to see my steering wheel full of black handprints

[@buzzpedrotti5401]

Great insight!

[@OPMDK]

Is this a pre production version? Doesn’t strike me as fully baked at this point...

[@bhilgefort]

I hope you're right. This version has WAY too many things to fix.

[@jona8418]

major flop if that infotainment isnt optimized..

[@descendency]

I've seen 2 different reviews and neither mentioned it being a review unit or pre-production software. There was a mention of over-the-air updates, but every auto manufacturer is starting to promise this and none of them have delivered (save Tesla).

[@bengerendash]

The delay looks like a hardware issue more than a software issue.

[@Ewoodster]

Over here in Germany, they are not delivering the ID.4 to the customers, yet, even thoug production is running continuously. The cars will be delivered at the end of March, when software revision 2.1 is released. This will allow OTA updates, which all currently available test cars don't have. I am sure that especially on software level this car will see a lot of improvement over the next years.

[@bobharan3950]

I drove the ID.4 yesterday and it felt heavy to me. The cruise control did a good job of keeping its adaptive distance and braking. So it seemed, the advance driver assist did a better job driving than I could. I wasn’t use to any of the controls or features, so I hope, in time that will change. Or I’m just getting older and will soon find myself depending on self driving cars. 🤨

[@jannevaatainen]

There must be something wrong with the infotainment system, as it looks like the exact same thing as in the MK8 VW Golf, and that screen is perfectly responsive.

[@damir_arnautovic97]

It‘s a preproduction model, that’s why it’s laggy. The mk8 Golf has the same screen and it’s super responsible in that. A software update before the official sale is going to fix that.

[@manuelg8050]

@@damir_arnautovic97 Exactly. In europe all the ID4 are on hold and are not delivered until the softwareupdate is ready.

[@VolkerHett]

They are still working on it. IMHO too many components from different sources to integrate into one system. Tesla might be right there, do it yourself and you know how it works.

[@johndavis4564]

@@damir_arnautovic97 lmao. Sure

[@supersecularboypants]

I was JUST thinking that, I was in a dealership and tried it.

[@aidenbagshaw5573]

“Hello ID. I’m cold.” - Doug DeMuro 2021

[@МихаилПетрович-м2п]

Imagine being in the passenger seat about to crash and you yell PAUSE😭

[@linusorlinux8787]

Nice one ill yeĺl play over the autobahn

[@schnuffelpuff3923]

Help i think my cat is broken it doesnt pause when I tell it to?

[@shanewalker3273]

@@schnuffelpuff3923 Try getting a dog

[@_zigger_]

This is what Germans think humor is

[@theaBogdan]

9:32 - "Hello id, I'm cold." "Yeah, me too."

[@bidzej86]

They are going far too far with the touch stuff. Tried that in the Golf VIII and I really hate it, you can't work with anything without looking at it. And most of the touch-areas are shiny and black, so you leave fingerprints everywhere all the time. And now they decided to make other interior bits that are touched all the time white - now that is just dumb.

[@isaac24]

There's a reason that I'll never buy anything past the 2000's. too much tech.

[@carlosandleon]

The white interior is not standard, it's optional.

[@isaac24]

It better be. I'd never buy it, but I don't think anyone else would either, with that interior. And most people prefer real, gas cars.

[@carlosandleon]

@@isaac24 Your last point is moot. I consider myself a petrol head but I'm seriously considering an electrified vehicle for my next car. More specifically the upcoming KIA EV.

[@isaac24]

Don't. You'll be disappointed. And it won't last as long as a real car will.

[@user-ec9ht2fk9l]

I would like to thank Volkswagen for not putting a fat grille on the front unlike their friends at BMW.

[@seanplace8192]

Yep. Fake grilles on EV's is so annoying. That's why I don't really like the styling of cars like the Polestar 2.

[@9.5.9.5]

Haha bmw bad

[@Southpark124]

@@9.5.9.5 Nice NPC response, bucko.

[@andrewl.9736]

They didn't make an unnessecary fat grille, but they made an unnecessarily fat and tall front end.

[@JarnoScw]

@@seanplace8192 I like the Volvo Design for EVs and the Audi E tron. Only the design (I hate electric) but I like normal styling like these two vehicles waaay more than the "new" Styling. bmw, tesla and VW and many other EVs look like trash in my opinion. But I guess personal preverences.

[@autonewstv86]

I prefer it's sibling from Skoda the Enyaq.

[@simpleinverso8628]

Europe only tho...

[@nissetuta]

Enyaq is very nice. But ID.4 has much more passanger space if you need it. Tested both.

[@yuriywrestler7749]

@@antonthompson7838 thats funny that u have vw car as your profile picture, but u don’t know what’s skoda

[@simpleinverso8628]

@@antonthompson7838 Watch this one first: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3qqo4BudtyIfsU Then watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eILUkIWwo5Ksq5I

[@nissetuta]

It is a volkswagen with another branding. Very good cars, some a very economical choise over a VW car. SEAT is another volkswagen connected brand as is Audi and Porsche and more. Volkswagen is a very big company and lots of brands share the same platforms and engines as they are customisable and spreads the costs.

It's funny that when he explained the unresponsive touchscreen, it's unresponsive indeed, but after a cut it becomes responsive Kinda interesting

[@j.k.1198]

Doug: “the non-teardrop design is more practical than the Tesla Model Y” Also Doug: Tesla Model Y 9/10 for practicality, VW ID.4 8/10.

[@kjellis0102]

Front trunk could be a factor

[@ohutchie]

The Model Y is also a lot more practical to take on a road trip (325 mile range vs 250 miles and 250kW charging vs 100kW) and actually has more cargo volume and rear legroom than the ID.4.

[@buzzdee6683]

@@ohutchie the cheap model y has 150kW max. But the important thing is 0-80% time and consumption imo.

[@ohutchie]

@@buzzdee6683 Yes, but the Model Y he reviewed was the Performance.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@ohutchie But the ID.4 does 125 kW while the Y hits some marketing number and goes down down down so charging times will be not much different in the end, only VW will have 3 years free energy at EA.

[@zacholthof8587]

I found myself saying "Why?" a lot throughout this video.

[@SerbanCMusca-ut8ny]

I guess "Why?!" pretty much sums up this car and some choices that were made when designing it.

[@UProductions457]

Same. Why can't someone make an EV that doesn't have to be weird as hell.

[@georgedowns4034]

I found myself saying why is Doug calling it a crossover when it's a small SUV? A crossover is something that's half between a hatch and an SUV. Such as the Toyota CH-R or BMW X1

[@murlocpleb9787]

because they have to pretend to be Sci-fi to appeal to the people that think screens and touchscreen are still todays inovation.

[@KB-bh9hp]

@@UProductions457 Aside from the name being highly divisive, the mach-e is a legitimately compelling and decent ev for people who just want a great car imo.

[@youSupaflyy]

everybody: production doug: prime time

[@thespegs]

I would like Doug to go into more detail about the charging and charging networks available to each electric as that makes a huge difference in daily use.

[@BrentFreyEsq]

The infotainment system in this car was designed by someone who has never actually driven a car before.

[@michael3116-u8d]

Their last job was at Sabre working on the Pyramid.

[@Epicmikey9]

I can really imagine they hire designers who ride a bicycles in big cities.

[@user-jk9zr3sc5h]

@@NaplesInsider my mk7's infotainment is just fine, idk what youre talking about

[@jasonowen8193]

you mean like Tesla ?

[@user-jk7pf3uu7r]

@@user-jk9zr3sc5h yeah fr it is actually the best i have used

[@themachine8009]

Imagine those white control knobs after a few months of usage. Nasty

[@bence960522]

Like those old yellowed computers and keyboards

[@GHinWI]

Germans don’t realize that Americans normally drive with their hands covered in French fry grease & ranch dressing.

[@jonathanmangum4347]

I mean if you keep your hands clean and clean the knobs often, I think it'll stay clean

[@huberlukeable]

This car should come with a 5 year supply of white gloves.

[@jbmcdoogle]

@@jonathanmangum4347 I have a 2010 Volvo with blond leather and I'm constantly scrubbing the wheel and stalks. It's a constant thing. Otherwise, it looks nasty

[@polymerizedrecords]

Finally, a car designed for that guy who always writes "FIRST!" on every KZbin video.

[@jeremyepstein7977]

The gear selector is not that odd in EVs. The style of selector has been on the BMW i3 since it launched years ago and other auto makers with EVs are doing something similar including the new Hyundai Ioniq5.

[@drscopeify]

I3 has a column shifter, all Tesla most Benz SUVs almost all American SUVs and pickup trucks also have a column shifter this is fixed to the dashboard, so a little different.

[@nicktiller9111]

i love how the start button says “ENGINE Start Stop”

[@619guy202]

What did you want it to say, “eject”?

[@nickmorrison5856]

@@619guy202 it doesn’t have an engine

[@oddixgames6704]

@@nickmorrison5856 that's why you don't have to use it :)

[@descendency]

It's hard to hit the

[@bengerendash]

Parts bin....

[@vlr9999]

About screen: they’re can’t make it more responsive, because they need to sell audi

[@Stuttgart1887]

Not true, the golf infotainment system works fine, they either gave Doug a pre production version or just fucked this one up

[@coasternut3091]

@@Stuttgart1887 the prototype we had at the plant worked fine. It is probably a single car issue.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@Stuttgart1887 the press units seem to always be laggy. Makes me wonder if they need a reset or something.

[@Stuttgart1887]

@@kaitlyn__L McLaren has the same issues with their press cars. I’m wondering if they don’t realize that people actually base their opinion to buy or not buy a car on these reviews..

[@stevenwilliams1805]

@@Stuttgart1887 while I'm certain there are people who look up reviews, there are also a lot of people who are happy to take whatever they can get financed for.

[@khachikhmayakyan2349]

An infotainment to rival the level of frustration of Lexus’ *Our battle will be legendary*

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

LMAOSHSHA FR

[@mohammadzohorul8887]

LEXUS MOVED ON

[@Comexcyc849]

And they probably invest a lot of money into these bad infotainment systems lol

[@santiagocalderon3261]

lexus probably still has the worst one with that pad but volkswagen also has better infotainment screens in other cars so idk what happened to the id4

[@charles-davidberube1174]

@@santiagocalderon3261 yeah, my 2015 golf has a smoother infotainment

[@blackistheword7]

"Hello Id " tell me a joke... " my dashboard looks better than tesla's "

[@edwardvalivonis23]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RonaldvanderPutten]

From Edmonds: "The system takes a while to boot up and some responses are on the slow side, but overall it performs well." What Doug showed would a showstopper for many.

[@Abebe345]

Edmunds charges?

[@MrDuncl]

Carwow reviewed the very similar ID3 and had all sorts of problems with the voice recognition and infotainment. Google had no problems at all with the same satnav requests

[@peglor]

Provided it remembers your settings you don't need to go near the screen for most things, though the heated seat and driver assistance controls are a complete dumpster fire as you might need to use them while driving. All the other commonly used controls like window defrost, wipers and lights have their own buttons for the driver. Apart from the windshield defrost I almost never touch the climate controls. The volume control on the steering wheel does look like a pain though - the little rollers on previous model cars are a much nicer interface as you know when you're giving an input without having to look for feedback.

[@krane15]

In 2021, nobody should have to wait on any computer this simple.

[@davidkaplan5517]

the models that are shipping don't have the infotainment issues. I think these were pre-release models with worse software.

[@SimonStrother]

VW has already said they're going to update the software before it's officially released to consumers.

[@tomschmidt7565]

Have seen the newer software versions on the ID.3 here in europe and it is much smoother now.

[@quobishop]

Hello ID tell me a joke... Car: You don't need to worry another emission scandal. :D

[@automation7295]

Why do people think emission scandal is only exclusive to Volkswagen? Other car manufacturers had emission scandal long before Volkswagen, yet you people think emission scandal is only exclusive to Volkswagen. I swear everyone on KZbin are against Volkswagen and hate when people drive them, they even wish death on people for owning a Volkswagen. I bet when you see a Volkswagen, you get out and murder the driver and the passengers. You even wish that buying any Volkswagen models should be illegal. You people make no sense. Everyone complain about emission scandal, yet you people make your own exhaust louder and removing your cars' catalytic converters, even add rolling coal on truck diesel V8 trucks.

[@Aperson156]

@@automation7295 Because Dieselgate sounds cool.

[@automation7295]

​@@Aperson156 So everyone think that Volkswagen is the only brand in the world for causing Dieselgate? You know Dieselgate isn't exclusive Volkswagen, Dieselgate can happen for any manufacturer. People are just stupid and forgetting that all manufacturers had scandals, not just Volkswagen. Yet people in 2020's are still talking about Volkswagen's Dieselgate, even if it's was solved in 2015. God, every time when car reviewers reviews any Volkswagen, people always being disrespectful and calling everyone out for buying or owning a Volkswagen, regardless what model year they are. Why can't all KZbinrs disable comment whenever they review a Volkswagen or any car from VW Group?

[@Aperson156]

@@automation7295 Because comments drive engagement and the algorithm.

[@2Mortal]

@@automation7295 Dude, relax. It's not everyone that is against VW. I think its a great company that made a mistake and got found out. They are now driving the electrification of cars in Europe and that is fantastic. Dieselgate can be credited with giving EV's the push they needed to lift off.

[@JeepHoshi]

12:48 to activate the heated seats... just tap with two fingers on the temperature control (the blue/red )

[@Biker_Gremling]

I'm stonished by the intuitiveness of that feature /sarcasm/

[@And1one757]

When you have silent but deadly fart and realize the heated seats or on trying to figure out if you cut the red wire or the blue wire🥵🥶

[@jeppewerring]

It's important to know that the infotainment is getting a complete overhaul with improved design and faster/responsive.

[@prasad530]

He said IF an update comes out. It's almost unbelievable that this car is actually a production model with such horrendous tech response.

[@nothere572]

@@prasad530 An update is coming out.

[@jeppewerring]

@@prasad530 there is no if. VW themselves have said multiple times there is a major update coming in March that will also add OTA updates

[@davidc-l9174]

@@prasad530 It’s not production software, it’s pre-production and VW has said that the updated production software will be in cars before deliveries begin later this month.

[@CalgarGTX]

@@davidc-l9174 Well if it's a promise from the clean diesel guys, no reason to doubt it right ? That screen was lagging like if it was swapping to a mechanical hard drive or something... not sure how you fix that in code

[@saims.2402]

Murderer: Any last words. Doug: Cars and bids. Murderer: *melts away*

[@basic-os]

Murderer: I will kill everyone you love Doug: I love you Murderer: fuck

[@smith2354]

Murderer: I fear no man Doug: Quirks and Features Murderer: but that thing, it scares me

[@archxtxct4876]

All the fuirks and queatures "This is a quirky little feature" "TAPTAPTAPTAPTAPTAP"

[@IA_777]

all the forks and creatures

[@downhillgroovy]

I test drive one of these and liked it but couldn't wait for a pre order. Ended up scoring a 22 Tucson Hybrid and happy I did

[@DoRC]

That steering wheel is going to be so gross in a year.

[@georgespalding7640]

I think I'd put a steering wheel cover on that to keep it clean.

[@carlitoxb110]

@George Spalding what’s the point on having a beautiful white steering wheel covered by an ugly black steering wheel cover

[@DoRC]

@@carlitoxb110 cuz unless you want to wear gloves it it's not going to be beautiful for long.

[@pcmacp719c1]

I already know..... someone somewhere will buy a new ID4, drive off the dealership's lot, _and _*_IMMEDIATELY_*_ get a bucket of fried chicken from the KFC drive thru. Then they'll use their seat & steering wheel as a napkin._ ****_C R I N G E S_**** 😱🤣

[@chaseman94]

unless someone makes a clear plastic steering wheel cover

[@AustinF516]

This vehicle's controls was designed by the same guy who created the sensor for paper towels in the bathroom. It was working fine before !

[@manaspradhan8041]

It might have been working fine for you but it wasted a lot of paper, and I would much rather like to know that someone else hasn't accidentally touched the tissue that I'm using with their dirty hands

[@bobtroyer5555]

that white steering wheel is going to look like absolute shit in a couple years.

[@Luca-yy4xy]

That's why it is an Option...the normal one is black. Like the rest of the interieur.

[@JYMAHJAMES]

@TableRocked - has never owned one

[@tedschmitt178]

Ever heard of leather cleaner?

[@LearnAboutFlow]

@@notlNSIGHT Oh, that explains why Tesla as a brand ranked almost last in reliability ratings AND is having to recall 1/4 of its production from 2019-2020 due to defective hardware.

[@johannes26_02]

@@LearnAboutFlow Its a car made in the US, what do you expect?

[@jmk0822]

Just got a Bolt EUV a few days ago, I was considering an ID.4 but I’m very glad I chose the car I did

[@John-shreds]

@@jmk0822 how’s the charging speed. I was considering a bolt euv but I hated the charging speed.

[@davidb708]

Wait 5 or 10 years, those touch "buttons" and screens will be laughably outdated and will break or be even more difficult to use. Cars are quickly becoming more and more disposable.

[@ladam836]

Not years, but months.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

EVs are so much more reliable than engine powered cars that they design these cars to break, especially in the interior.

[@ProJC]

Touch buttons last longer than regular buttons. Moving parts break. Buttons are moving parts, they break. get rid of the button, the car becomes ever so slightly more reliable.

[@ladam836]

@@ProJC how about the whole touch screen broke then.

[@S1lverArr0w]

Lol that's the plan. Pre-2000s cars are indestructible for the most part, with exceptions of course. They'll outlast anything put out for the next 20 years

[@rudolfvanderven]

VW: let's pour tons of money in a car that will represent the future for the masses. And here's 10 bucks for the infotainment system.

[@RRUser2003]

Its just the software not the hardware. European Id models was just like this, but then they got faster with OTA-upgrade.

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@RRUser2003 the question is, how badly do you need to fuck up for the software to be so laughably bad? first gen iPhone was better than this, probably with same resolution and response rate too. This is frankly inexcusable even if it can be improved by software updates.

[@abccanada6248]

I hate that vast majority of full electric cars are just more crossovers. And with the exception of tesla all are like 150 to maybe 300 horsepower at the top. Why no 2 door sports cars or mini vans or suvs just more of the ugly boring cars that i believe are the worst of all worlds. Akd i like electric cars just tired of the cuv trend

[@poxer1]

@@Real_MisterSir First gen iPhone was made by a software company. VW used to be a car company and they are becoming a tech company while they continue to make over 10 mln cars a year. They will become better and better with every 120 days. Just watch them.

[@johannesfranck1770]

@@RRUser2003 no it’s not over the air yet, you had to go to your dealer and the programming takes a full day!!! after this update over the air updates are be possible

[@Reddsoldier]

I still don't get what meeting they decided that these weird touch things were better than buttons in an automotive setting. You can easily operate buttons by touch and you can tell if you've pressed them etc without having to look like these pads and any other pads in any other cars make you do for example. Also, how can no automaker actually integrate a reasonable sized screen into their interior design yet? It's been 8 years since we started getting these things in cars and they still can't figure it out. They look awful in their "placed on as an afterthought" position.

[@randellmainer]

The Ram's doesn't look too bad, better than most

[@JJVernig]

It's pure a cost cutting exercise, especialy for VW. This car must deliver for a price point and still be possible to be built in Germany. The rest are the hard plastics (which Doug didn't mention?) and the rather low horsepower. But it's a VW so it should sell well, especially in Europe where the taxes are better for electric vehicles. Don't forget it is a very heavy vehicle, so the rest is expensive as well.

[@Reddsoldier]

@@JJVernig VW have always had decent switchgear, and I really can't see how traditional push buttons would cost that much more, especially given the longevity, ease of use and safety aspects that they have a clear advantage with. I suspect they haven't included them because it's the "in" gimmick to remove buttons to seem "high tech" because functional tech is apparently not a priority over barely usable tech which looks nice. Sure, in 10 years I might be proven wrong and wonder how we ever did without them, but as it stands, I just don't think it's the best idea to be filling cars with tech that requires drivers to look away from the road, even if there is lane keep assist and radar cruise control because here in the UK at least those things don't mean dick in the vast majority of driving we do on poorly marked and twisty roads outside of the big towns and cities. And I assume the whole point of an electric car with much better range is that it is targeted at people who don't live in cities or big towns because that's where the people who will have range woes live.

[@brixan...]

This screen is small??

[@MH-wm6df]

Tesla is perfect. Touchscreen is 100x better than this piece of shit, not to mention, screen size is large. Great for a backup camera, movies, etc. Once you switch over...youll see.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

THE ID4 is essentially the PEOPLE'S CAR for the EV age. It's the first VW I ever enjoyed. Definitely more practical and serious than a VW Beetle.

[@stillww]

Why do traditional automakers insist on making their EVs weird and full of gimmicks

[@maddeninvestments]

What was weird 20 years ago is not any more, so might as well be this 👴

[@travisneill704]

I noticed that too. the first EV on the market that didn't go out of its way to be weird was the tesla. it just looks like a car. I had a bolt and I thought it was normal enough. it's an ugly car but it wasn't trying to be ugly, it just turned out that way

[@_zigger_]

Because evs are a fad, so making them toy-like is a must for good sales

[@YYZ-SRQ]

lets see how the white steering wheel and the other controls look in a couple months, my guess is blotchy/dirty grey

[@TheNorthernHouse10]

Drive with gloves on, plastic wrap.

[@alh06]

@@TheNorthernHouse10 I hope this is a joke.

[@COSolar6419]

Only came on first edition model which is no longer available.

[@krane15]

@@alh06 I took is seriously.

[@krane15]

It should go well with the sticky gummy touch screen and haptic buttons, don't you think?

[@carlstanland5333]

“I’m sorry Doug, I’m afraid I cannot do that.” 🔴

[@paulhenryxray]

“This climate is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.”

[@tkomow2]

I hope more people get this reference!

[@OZUndead]

It's time for daydrinking

[@Jaml321]

@@tkomow2 You know you're old if you do.

[@Luke-PlanesTrainsDogsnCars]

'' Open the pod bay door '' ..'' open the friggin door '' '' Sorry Doug I'm afraid I cant do that , did you hear the one about the chicken that crossed the road '' ?

[@gac_521]

I don’t like the shifter much but I do love the 2-button window controller. I’m always rolling down the rear windows when I don’t look and press the window buttons. Pretty good idea and it looks cleaner too

[@whatchuwant77]

Congratulations, you're the only one that likes that.

[@thegangstagentle]

The screen and the screen and the screen and don’t forget The Screen! Bro, as a survivor from owning a Tesla model three, I can tell you that there are way more important things than the screen.

[@HunterJs2]

It’s an electric car. The screen is absolutely essential.

[@DyslexicMitochondria]

If Doug was a surgeon he'd be like "Thisssss is a brain tumor...but before I perform surgery, make sure to check out cars and bids"

[@sterlingarcher8041]

hahaha

[@tomhappening]

xdd

[@epicstuff7522]

lmao

[@danielretardo7075]

trueee

[@marem3038]

Brains and balls*

[@MintyDude]

Doug: "ID, I'm cold" ID4: "Hi cold, I'm ID4"

[@arthemis1039]

This would be hilarious

[@lvermei]

So I own the car (EU version). Some comments to the otherwise nice video: - The infotainment is almost perfectly responsive on this side of the water. I do prefer the Tesla design btw. - By holding the 'rear' button for the windows you can control all 4 of them simultaneously - The heated seats can be controlled by tapping the heat slider with 2 fingers

[@ItzzzBeamo]

That white interior with grey lettering reminds me of like... late 90’s early 2000’s white kitchen appliances... I wonder if the interior will yellow with time.

[@V8_screw_electric_cars]

It is a kitchen appliance

[@crimsonlightbinder]

most likely, but will definetely have permanent patches of grey where you put your hands and fingers in about 6 months and ain't nothing you can do about it will all detailing in the world

[@KannX]

10:05 - "So the system can tell you a joke - a bad joke. It is a german car after all." - SAVAGE :D

[@stevee8318]

German humor is no laughing matter.

[@TBFSJjunior]

How many germans do you need to change a light bulb? . . . One. Germans are efficient and don't have a sense of humor! 😁 (Also fun fact the german word for light bulb is Glühbirne (glowing pear).)

[@nielsdebakker3283]

An american wearing shorts tells a bad joke. German reaction: Silly man can't dress properly.

[@SMNAviation]

Front end - looks like an SUV version of the golf, I like it.

[@Linus7671DX]

@@КонстантинАбрамов-ы8г AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! DISGUSTANG.

[@sweggemen42069]

Linus7671 / Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra The King poggies

[@seangates900]

I adore the white steering wheel, stalks and dashboard. And I don't have to worry about cleaning my grubby hand prints off of it, because using that infotainment system while driving would make me crazy.

[@mcgwerks]

You'd think they'd change the "start engine" button to "start motor" or something like that.

[@davidc-l9174]

Yeah, that’s weird. Though, it’s only needed if you want to turn on accessory mode, so probably not used that often.

[@Sarcasticone1]

I was thinking the same thing...

[@krispyai4229]

Maybe just 'Start'.

[@houdini6465]

@@krispyai4229 “ Start / Stop “

[@joejoseph7198]

That's a silly nitpick. You probably think it's weird because you aren't used to hearing "electric engine" even though it means the exact same as "electric motor".

[@coldinwisconsin2017]

"klima", pronounced "kleema" in German means "climate". Makes sense

[@ultraguy8771]

Isn't it written "Klima" though?

[@richardnavratil9661]

Especially when his temp settings is in Celsius, implying this is imported vehicle (yes, it could also be changed from infotainment I'm sure)

[@SuperwurstLP]

@@ultraguy8771 Yes, but he wrote it like that to show how you correctly pronounce it.

[@SuperwurstLP]

A/C in german is "Klimaanlage". "Klima" is just a shorter version of it. But I've never seen it in a car before, even the cars that are only sold in Europe always have A/C written or only a snowflake on it.

[@SerbanCMusca-ut8ny]

Plus, it lets you make the word completion as you wish: climatic, climactic, climax, and even climacteric if you are so inclined.

[@Siggfuggggg2000]

vw: lets make every control in the car as ergonomically annoying to use as possible

[@billigerfusel]

I can hear the maniacal laughter of the evil engineers.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

They over did the technique of trying to make the car seem futuristic.

[@Siggfuggggg2000]

@@slowanddeliberate6893 yeah companies need to stop doing this

[@CoreanKat]

@@Siggfuggggg2000 in my opinion tesla so far is the only one that has done it in a way that’s consistently intuitive and responsive.

[@Siggfuggggg2000]

@@CoreanKat I agree but they still need more buttons for things like climate control

[@vitorcgomide]

I think two buttons for the 4 windows is a cool idea. Several times I push the rear buttons thinking it is the front buttons

[@MoveoverAndbark]

Yeah, I do that in my 2014 Jetta Gli.....have had for over 8 years and still do that...if manufacturers wanna stick with more buttons than maybe some "braille-type" raised imperfections on the buttons for retards like me....

[@Juanguar]

Never thought of it that way but yeah that’s actually a good thing I always open the rear windows in my Prius c like this by accident

[@Perforator2000]

I'm glad actual car companies are making good electric cars now.

[@eddieg28sp]

Clima means Climate in Spanish🇲🇽... not bad for a German🇩🇪 car 🤔🤣

[@lionelhutz4186]

In German that would be Klima...not that far off. A "c" is just a bit more posh if you ask me

[@AndreiRynhel]

In polish it’s also Klima means climate 😂

[@abraxastulammo9940]

They just ran out of space ;-)

[@antipodeanwizard1632]

Same in Italian.

[@diegaulle9143]

Inside a car, spanish word for "Climate" is "Climatización". Unless you want to set up global climate from your cockpit. Then "Clima" would be just right. That layout is just poor translation of German "Klimaanlage" short "Klima". Kinda shame.

[@bichofunkilus]

Looks like they omitted frunk so we can put TDI engine in this thing.

[@InvaderNate]

That 1st badge is just begging to become a 1.8t badge. Just add some lines, and the fun begins.

[@ivanhoraciomaciasalvarez9228]

I’m going crazy with the door seal while this guy is driving.

[@jmakhlouf422]

Agreed. He was speaking of the excellent build quality,and I see that weatherstripping pucker behind his left ear.

[@tonys9413]

Another Tesla fanboy. Your gawd builds sucky cars (inside and out).

[@punjabob]

I was minding my own business, watching this video, and then my dad comes and says, *"YEAH VOLKSWAGEN IS MAKING ELECTRIC CARS SO THEY DON'T HAVE EMISSIONS TO LIE ABOUT!"*

[@shravdoesstuff]

Are we not gonna talk about how the button says “Start *Engine* Stop”

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Let's discuss the Turbo of the Taycan again...

[@joshpalmer9158]

all start stop buttons look like that

[@joshpalmer9158]

but thats parts sharing for ya

[@silversonic99]

@@abraxastulammo9940 an electric engine is still an engine...

[@CCK-jd8nc]

@@silversonic99 Yes... but a turbocharger relies on exhaust gas... which the Taycan does not have... so the turbo name means absolutely nothing

[@fearlessfreep]

The dead mans PARK is a genius idea that EVERY CAR MANUFACTURER should be required to implement (RIP Anton Yelchin).

[@Kumar-bg6nr]

But it seems like people just care about the "unresponsive" infotainment system which I believe would probably be sorted out with an update.

[@bengerendash]

Ford has it on their rotating know transmission I had on my fusion energi

[@TheNicheHunter]

In Europe, every ID.4 (and ID.3) receives an update before delivery (update takes approx 7 hours). It activates the Wired & Wireless App Connect, AR Head-Up Display, fixes the issues with the SOS-call button, issues with the Travel Assist, lag of the center screen... we are not allowed the deliver any cars to our clients before doing this update on any ID-car. I hope this update reaches the US as well before the deliveries start rolling out

[@bigboi000069]

I can't believe how much the gauge cluster & shifter look like the BMW i3's.

[@McBake]

I really like this car.... Alot in white... And the pedals just sent me into a full geek out. I think I found the car to convince my wife to replace her Jeep with!

[@jdb1478]

Oof bad idea

[@benjaminh9081]

This is a fantastic review, comprehensive, critical in some areas, offering praise in others, overall a very good, fair review, keep it up doug!

[@calebgizaw6581]

You double tap the button with the thermometer for heated seats so you don’t have to go into the menu. It’s the button above the blue and red climate control lines.

[@jerryrocketandthegogogirls3517]

I like that he calls it a window defogger. Here in the Midwest it’s a window defroster 😂

[@mattkennedy6115]

Northeast too 😆

[@anonymoususer855]

Here in Ireland, we call it a "window demister".

[@nickel36]

Defroster in Canada too, but it makes sense since there's no frost in California.

[@cokeacolazzz]

All that white to try and make you forget about diesel-gate

[@4z94]

After years of their cars spewing diesel exhaust now they are going to save the world.

[@spanieaj]

@@4z94 "Spewing" lol They were not spewing diesel exhaust. You might think that if you listen to the media who made it sound like VW was raising the average temperature of the earth several degrees on their own.

[@4z94]

@@spanieaj spent a lot of time running diesel equipment and around diesel cars what a lovely smell.

[@miravvyas]

Doug : Hello id , I'm cold Id : Try wearing pants next time

[@LightningRider9371]

Detroit: Become Human

[@bengerendash]

Or put on your second t-shirt silly

[@ayb2522]

The white actually looks pretty slick and sets it apart. They should have kept that theme going through the car. It clashes with the black