The 2023 Honda Civic Type R Retains Its Crown As The King Of FWD Hot Hatches

The #HondaCivicTypeR has been an absolute hit with enthusiasts ever since #Honda brought the #CivicTypeR name to America back in 2017. For 2023, the all-new #TypeR refines the formula with more power, more tech, and better handling. It still only comes with a 6-speed MT and FWD only, but that doesn't stop the latest #HondaCivic from being one of the best handling hot hatches that money can buy.
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[@clustrone]

Love this car. Have had mine for several months and it is a beast of a daily driver. My 3 year old fits easily in the back in his car seat. Pulling up to his daycare is a scene, the kids love the boost blue. In a sea of black and gray SUVs, it is no wonder all the kids love my FL5.

[@nitrostackr]

Had mine for a week and absolutely love it, feels like the perfect car for my life and interests

[@Shono731]

I am a big Type R fan! In January I traded my 2019 fk8 that I bought in new in 2019 for my 2023 fL5! I was fortunate enough to get both of them from the same dealership new and both at msrp! Having 4 years with my fk8 and almost a year with FL5 and in my opinion the FL5 is more refined and upgraded in almost every way! I did think my FK8 was great but from my experience with the fL5 I won’t ever go back!! It’s hard people to understand the increased pricing but a lot of people that say it’s too high priced haven’t driven one! It is an upgrade all around! But I do agree the markups are so dumb ! You can get in to some other crazy good cars once you hit 55-60k! But for if a person pays msrp for the FL5 I think it’s a lot of car for the money! Much more than that it’s questionable!! Keep up the amazing reviews! I sure enjoy the content! Keep up the great work! 🚙😀

[@4olddogg]

I have this exact car, I have owned for 6 months and I feel that it is a drivers car.

[@SIIKAP1]

Man this should be $40k tbh. That nearly $7k jump from FK8 to this is quite hefty. Either way, I really want one. But dealer markups make an already overpriced car even more expensive.

[@dnice362]

40k very tops.

[@jmb1215]

@@dnice362 people are buying used fk8s at $40k

[@SIIKAP1]

@@dnice362 Yup. I miss the days when you could buy an S2000 for $32k brand new

[@theawsomenes100]

I know somebody looking for one and dealerships won’t offer anything less than $60,000.

[@darind4920]

​@@theawsomenes100I inquired about one last weekend with a salesman who I worked with when buying my wife's CRV. Best offer was $10k mark up with $3.6k worth of dealer accessories.

[@paullansville]

No lie after seeing both the Civic Type R and the Integra Type S I'm learning towards the 23 Integra type s,it just looks better overall to me.✌🏼

[@robsnow2099]

FK8 looked atrocious, this is very clean.

[@Duran762]

Good 👍 less people liking the fk8 the better for me 😂

[@OnlyToaey]

Dealership near me selling them for $72k . Old FK8 are going for $50k+ 😢

[@povboy009]

true here in Canada they are for sale for $80k which is nuts

[@tb109987]

I hope they don't sell a single one. Marking up the price that much for this car is just evil.

[@braetonwilson4296]

povboy, 80k Canadian dollars is only 58k US dollars

[@duanen2337]

They are selling for 50 here in ohio

[@jpizel1070]

​@@braetonwilson4296Funny how you say only 58k.

[@haseebali803]

For anyone interested: You can get them for msrp. Just call dealerships within a 100/200 mile radius

[@JohnSmith-hj4px]

Wish honda would ramp up their productions. My local Honda dealer barely has any new vehicle on the lot

[@joeblacc8573]

Anybody with anything negative to say, u gotta drive 1 first I promise u smh. Phenomenal machine.

[@LateNightDateNight]

No one who drives this will say it’s worth what they’re asking unless you have a preconceived bias or refuse to grasp reality. I had an FK8, paid $37k.. this car isn’t worth MsRP, should of been $40k max

[@joeblacc8573]

@@LateNightDateNight shit is more expensive now. The markups are ridiculous but msrp is consistent with the times and inflation. Whenever I see something on KZbin I’m not interested in, I just don’t watch it. Idk y everyone is still bitching about the price over a year since it’s been out. It is what it is, it costs what it costs. Shop elsewhere 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@teeydarkis6685]

@@joeblacc8573pull Hondas pants up when ur done 😂😂 people are allowed to complain about things. And you’re allowed to not respond when you don’t like it.

[@TheBreakfastLover]

I was lucky to drive a friend's DC2 Integra Type R about 15 years ago. Once you drive one, you realize how silly some of the criticism are, like "BuT iT's FwD" 😂

[@RKO859]

No doubt a phenomenal machine, except it costs 80k+ in canada now, which is about 30k markup. With fees and taxes, it's 95k. Unless you are loaded, no one wants to spend 100k on a Civic

[@khensationalReviews]

Man Sofyan reviewing a Honda is a classic.

[@keithrodes1591]

This generation is so much more mature looking. Love it!

[@pauljayvlogs489]

300hp fwd 4 popper for 50$k+ Hahahaha. Fkn hell, stop paying these prices THEN the market will be forced to adjust.

[@owenmcdonald5922]

Black floor mats would help break down the red interior.

[@CalvinHikes]

So would removing the red interior.

[@SpraykwoNTheChef]

Markups kill any interest in getting one for me sadly. Dealers are fucking up the market man. Smh

[@DELICIOUSORANGECHICKEN]

Man idk. That horn sound is a real deal breaker

[@kotarojujo2737]

why would you complaint lack of sunroof in Type R honda, That's really defeat the purpose of Type R Ethos. Sunroof make the center of gravity higher which defeat the purpose of track car.

[@theunkownmr.562]

I just can't get over the sound of a 4cyl anymore.

[@tonychien3033]

I bought my 2024 type R with sonic gray with 5 accessories at $3k over the MSRP.

[@jameshuegli3534]

What’s weird is that everyone talks about how great this car is except in the snow where AWD helps with traction. Um. What about rain? Here in the PNW the Type R will get smoked on the street half of the year.

[@van_der_lindeDA]

Then toyota made a corolla GR for you

[@dariodario103]

Most of the Type R owners never drive in snow or rain...:-)

[@s4awd2]

You'd have to go for the GR. After driving both, the CTR looks nicer imho, is faster once going and has a better shifter but man, GR is so much more fun to drive.

[@howard2710]

Saving the manuals by up selling the car by 20k MSRP

[@G-Force_70]

Great segment as always...thank you

[@ahmedxkhan]

Rather get a mercedes benz c43 amg!!! Or a used e450 4matic coupe!!! Get this junk out if here! No real leather, no sound ending materials, no laminated windows double pane, no v6 engine. Get out if here.

[@lexburen5932]

people obviously dont get the mentality of this car. They prefer the fat heavyweight ACURA type S. Honda type R is not about fat weight but leightweight.

[@unfoundfate]

Type s only weighs like 60lbs more though

[@Bobstone2131]

Great car, but not worth the $20k upcharge over a base civic "hatchback". I think I would save $10k and go for a Hyundai Elantra N, or save $5k and get a Camero V8 manual.....

[@joshuaciccoricco2947]

Even a V6 Camaro has way more hp.

[@chrism869]

@@joshuaciccoricco2947 who would buy a v6 camaro, and remember this is the type r ,its the top of the line civic. a v8 camaro is cool, but around corners is a boat, and on track the type r will smoke it, and on top of that its a honda, so its gonna be way more reliable than the camaro

[@joshuanourse9664]

Something about this guy saying the carpet being red was shocking has me laughing audibly loud

[@alengreen589]

USD $ 45k 😂😂😂, cost in Germany between $ 65 - 70k, this is nuts for a compact FWD, 6 speed Manual Car.

[@ryanlittleton5615]

What's crazy is in Japan it's the equivalent of $38k!!!

[@alengreen589]

@@ryanlittleton5615 😆

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

You can't even find one of these at MSRP. This is a kick ass car, but they markup is going to kick you in the ass in the end with those high payments if you are foolish enough to pay markup on this. If I'm going to pay extra on a car, why not go DE5 Integra Type S? It's $6,000 more, but there are far more Acura dealerships that are not charging markup for the ITS than Honda dealershipe charging markup on the FL5 CTR. By the time you get the final total on both cars, you wīnd up paying the same final total if not less for an Integra Type S than you would for an FL5 and the DE5 is just nicer.

[@lbcitylacounty4982]

You mean the ACURA INTEGRA TYPE S is the King!!! 💪

[@ieatpoza]

ive only seen these in dealer showrooms, never seen one on the street

[@DisneyMusicVideos]

Love the styling, but would go with the Integra since no heated seats.

[@andrytavarez2741]

Bruh nice launch 🔥 15:56

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

You can't get any better for a hot hatch than a Honda Civic Type R. Just the fact that it only comes with that perfect 6-speed manual transmission is amazing, and we all know how immaculate Honda manuals are. If I were to choose this or its platform mate, the Acura Integra Type S, the Integra Type S is the one for me, just because of the styling, it sounds much better, and the fact that the Type S is definitely a better daily driver in terms of comfort as Acura definitely tuned the suspension to be less harsh than the Type R. The Type R is literally a track car meant for racing, hence why it has that stiffer suspension. I also think that Championship White is the perfect colour for any Civic Type R. It's the iconic colour for all Type Rs, and it's perfect on this one, can't expect anything less.

[@mr.grumpygrumpy2035]

Can you daily drive the thing or is it a horrendous racket?

[@Thebusdriverandgamermorefan790]

Amazing car Sofyan.

[@BrenThayer]

Toyota #1

[@jameswillard1]

Why focus on the drawbacks of FWD? I don’t know why people are so concerned with 0-60 in this car? We live in a world where electric cars have made 0-60 in anything else completely pointless. The CTR is about fun and AWD would add weight, cost more, corrupt the amazing steering, and compromise it’s exceptionally large interior volume

[@RamblingOmarr]

If AWD does all of that then that just shows me that they can't make a car to save their fucking lives. Audi, BMW, and Cadillac all have AWD systems and dominate the backroads way better than this thing. Don't get me started on Jag or Porche. So it can be done, and at that price because all of those Manufacturers are this car's competition. So it is being done, so yeah shit out another excuse, please.

[@CaseyCollier]

@@RamblingOmarr Why does this car absolutely "need" AWD? Explain, please. It doesn't need to be the fastest off the line to be an enjoyable driver's car.

[@RamblingOmarr]

@CaseyCollier You Must be Blind and Death if You did hear the mf struggling for Traction, that's bad for tires and suspension parts in the long run. Anybody that actually KNOW anything about "Driver's Cars" would know that... Jackass

[@jameswillard1]

@@RamblingOmarrand yet this car has beaten every single new RS3 and G87 M2 in every comparison it’s been in against them. No idea what AWD Cadillac you think compares to this 🤔

[@RamblingOmarr]

@jameswillard1 Are you serious? The Magnaride Cadillac System Benchmarks as best in the industry every Year..... And I fucking Hate Cadillacs. Course I say that, but look that Blackwing is really something special. There is noway this car that's 6 seconds to 60 with NO fucking traction off the Line is fucking with a Cadillac product. And again, I HATE CADILLAC. My Blazer RS with a 93 Octane Tune, and a Cold air intake is faster than this to 60..... And you're pushing forth that it's superior. WHATEVER DRUG YOU'RE ON ....... I NEED IT.

[@fahler14]

I think this segment is awesome . The fast and furious cars . Wrx Sti, lancer evolution, focus RS, and now civic type R. Problem is by the time you make 100k per year . Are you really going to get a Civic Type R. Boy Racer isn’t exactly cute in your 30s . The target market really is teenagers and 20 year olds with rich parents . Otherwise people with millions and you buy this as part of your collection .

[@juliangranzetto4780]

This guy must be really small. The car looks huge next to him.

[@ironfistscientist]

Man took a swipe at the fk8 owners by saying "childish"

[@noirrain6005]

It looks like that. Useless vents are not cool. All FL5 vents have a purpose

[@c.mokicks5461]

My dream car forever! Because you can’t get one unless you’re willing to pay $60k so then just get the Integra type S. And for cheaper and also available. This sucks…. Let’s make a cool car you can’t get.

[@Shopdgap919]

My dealer doesn’t mark up. But you have to live in state to purchase.

[@JamieToddBand]

I'm lucky to have the more attractive 2019 FK8 as a daily driver. I knew it was something special before I left the lot on a test drive of a used R. Redline Reviews Rock!

[@nitrostackr]

There’s no way you’re saying the FK8 looks better, that’s a joke, right?

[@JeffSpehar-ov1cn]

This is over a year old.

[@delta9kush339]

The fact that any of you thinking a 40-45k civic is good is ridiculous. A 45k CIVIC! ROFL!

[@naveenthemachine]

But the civics a class leader It’s worth it. You can pay 40k for a corolla and get a worse car than the civic

[@bruceleeroy8302]

I remember when they released these back in 2017 for around $35k MSRP (and dealers were marking them up much higher) and I thought $35k was ridiculous to ask for a civic, no matter how fast. Now, they are marked up as high as $65k which is almost supercar prices.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@bruceleeroy8302 super cars cost well over 6 digits

[@hitmanhart6275]

Inflation , the price still compare well in this segment. Its below the average new cars prices in the US or in Canada.

[@brenttitus2134]

Base price was raised to $6k because they can and it will still sell. No thanks at $43k+ over priced.

[@NJRacer623]

You can barely even call this thing a hatchback. It looks almost more like a sedan from the side profile.

[@jc.1157]

my gawd look at all the swirls and scratches on the outside door gloss black piece. i know this is a press car but damn. that's gotta be all over the car. just lucky it's white. Were it a black car LOL

[@juanfernandez8987]

It's not a freaking drag car. What's so hard to understand?

[@thecamdenyard]

Dodge boys will never understand. Don’t care if it stops,turns or last more than 10 years . But is it fast 😂

[@juanfernandez8987]

@@thecamdenyard exhaust and tune and the R wakes right up

[@TwoLuckii]

@@thecamdenyard You’re quite literally the only person in this comment section that mentioned a Dodge. What are you talking about?

[@HumanStateOfEmergency]

No projectors for headlights is weird and not worth paying that much.

[@Karnap0100]

The last gen type r was so ugly! That is actually something that doesn't look like something a 6 year old made

[@RelaxAndSmokeMeth]

the fk8 front end/side profile is leagues better than the fl5. rear fl5 takes the cake.

[@williamc4353]

Sadly for 45k you can buy a 400+ hp new mustang that will rear it up 1/4 mile and keep up on a circuit track. This should be 40k max

[@Binxy-z5k]

Honda FWD is the best handling fwd

[@raypeto2250]

Rather have a super nice used Vette for the money

[@oldkid6]

If any car needs AWD it would be this one. Also, with they hype and dealer mark up it's just not worth the price.

[@garfieldlogan9767]

Forreals automakers be throwing AWD on every car nowadays but not civic type R??

[@jameshowlett2868]

We should thank the blood-sucking dealerships that are making this car difficult to purchase.

[@ArcoZakus]

Supply vs. demand. As long as there are buyers willing to pay what the dealers are asking for them, it is those other buyers, not the dealers, who are "making this car difficult to purchase ". If the supply were larger or the number of willing buyers were fewer then the price would go down.

[@gaivoron]

Yayks I'm sure it's a great drive but $45k

[@kakashi99908]

Yeah either buy a used civic si and flash tune it and save $$$ for 90% of the fun or buy a mustang

[@surfjunkie2496]

I30 N takes the hot hatch

[@1parrishjackson]

Why don’t they include sunroofs on performance models? Lowkey a deal breaker for me when paying those prices.

[@clarenceunderwood382]

Probably for performance reasons maybe, but if you aren't a pro driver, you aren't even going to be able to discern the benefits of having one vs without in regards to performance/handling. One benefit, if you are tracking your performance car, you get more headspace without a sunroof, generally probably only an inch of difference, but that could make and break it for some taller people.

[@thecamdenyard]

Yep there was one real tall designer… 😂 I have the same problem with sunroof’s. Too bad the Civic Si doesn’t have a sunroof delete option…

[@IvanG817]

No one uses sunroofs because they always fail and when it rains your f**k

[@FantomGx]

Sunroofs make cars heavier. Most true performance vehicles are slick tops.

[@jameswilson8907]

Sunroofs add a lot of weight to the highest point on a car as well as reducing headroom. Both are detrimental for a performance car. It'd be nice as an option for people that want it but definitely shouldn't be standard equipment

[@litespeed65]

The regular Civics need more power

[@ferrarikangaroo9271]

I wish that this was available in a two-door. I can't stand four door cars. They look so... utilitarian.

[@LiHao8377]

Man only 5.2? Make it AT goes to 4.8s

[@operationgetthugs232]

Price is nasty

[@marcustvchannel5885]

Cool car

[@Eggsplanepls]

FK8 >

[@tranwc]

Bummed they changed the 2017 body style and raised the price. 🫤 Thank you for the review! 😊

[@bobbowie9350]

The styling just looks parts bin. Its like 3 cars meshed into one. The roofline and a pillar looks so dated and weird

[@jamievsjamie8377]

This is not a hot hatch anymore. Its the size of an accord, its a hot sedan now. I hate it.

[@BeanieNinjay0]

This seems to wheel hop worse than the FK8.

[@IncogKneegrow1]

You sound 5’7” bruh

[@Anonymous______________]

"Design is always a subjective thing." Well if that is the case, how about you drive a Trabant?

[@Indifference2000]

What does a Trabant have anything to do with this video titled Civic Type R?

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

Over 10k price jump solely for the engine upgrade from the regular civic 1.5T sport touring. 😂 plus you get fewer features like sun roof, heated seats, power seats, 2nd row USB ports, and one less back seat, I guess it’s the price you pay nowadays for being sporty.😂

[@aceofspades6667]

Integra for me

[@jaddyrose9318]

3 days ago? Bro you’re hella late

[@kakashi99908]

I will never be able to afford anything nice

[@nfspeedy2]

Your press car is desperate for an oil change!

[@billx4266]

We cannot buy one here in europe

[@NinoPavkovic]

Why would anyone buy this honda civic type r over m340i bmw?

[@Marbind]

The BMW is over 60k, out of warranty maintenance costs, resale value, track performance, hatch vs sedan, etc So many reasons.

[@romahnae]

🤔 hm... does no fog lights equals longer battery life?

[@jtomtl]

no automatic.... still

[@chrism869]

its a drivers car

[@Anything.is.Possible]

Over Priced

[@troll3497]

steering rack problem car

[@mikelee9173]

Yeah that's way too much red in the interior. Having a nice red trim/accent would be nice but man that's way too much for my taste

[@Hschlick84]

Meh, just get a Nissan Z.

[@Wised1000]

5.2 is still a dog..... Lest we firget that time only happens if all the planets are in aligment and usually requires a new clutch after 5 launches that achieve that time. Say its 6 seconds and Ill believe it.

[@Dumbledore6969x]

22 in the city ??? Sometimes I forget how horrible the gas milage is in regular cars 😂

[@momoknows]

Great Reviews always you little LGBTQ Gremlin

[@naveenthemachine]

Still the king. The GR corolla has no chance to fight this. Because the Hondas more civilized refined and just far more polished. It’s obvious Honda benchmarked German cars in their development

[@LateNightDateNight]

First off the GR Corolla isn’t FWD, second this isn’t a refined vehicle. It’s a Civic that’s wider with better handling, still rattles in the dash and is missing what you should get for the asking price

[@naveenthemachine]

@@LateNightDateNight the GR corolla has AWD but handling still goes to the civic. Not to mention the civics very refined from its styling to the interior to build quality materials fit finish to space to daily driving.

[@LateNightDateNight]

@@naveenthemachine The interior is cheeks other than the front seats lol. What’s refined about plastic?

[@naveenthemachine]

@@LateNightDateNight every car has plastic but Honda tends to use high quality plastics with nicer grainings.

[@ju4121]

​@@LateNightDateNightlol Mr naveen is a lexus /toyota downer.. Basically every car marker is 100000% better then toyota

[@wg8290]

This 0-60 is perfect for road use. These cars with fast 0-60 are a bit much for the street.

[@jpizel1070]

I would take the GR corolla over this Type R. After owning FWD, AWD, and RWD, I just can't go back to FWD. That wheel hop at take of is brutal 😬

[@SlowFk8]

This car is made for people that loves type R. I owned awd and rwd as well and I understand how u feel. Gotta love it to understand. Just like a girl with flaws. 😂

[@UmarTheGreat10]

@@SlowFk8 This car has won numerous awards and tests beating out awd and rwd rivals. In fact it just won Top Gear's Speed Week 2023 beating out every supercar. Not to mention it was their car of the year. The fact that you say its made for people who love the type R is ridiculous. Shows how clueless you are

[@JacesOwnWorld]

@@SlowFk8so you’re a SIMP?

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

GR also has a unique engine

[@chrism869]

it doesn have much wheel hop despite being it fwd

[@dexterlua1204]

This is not a hot "hatch", not anymore for many years now.

[@r3games1985]

No way. Golf R is the King.

[@SnoopiFL5]

The gulf R is not quicker.

[@shyennegilzean5692]

👑👑👑👑👑👑

[@facelessman7733]

My Malone-tuned Audi Q5 TDI will walk this car every time and costs so much less...NTY.

[@Indifference2000]

Really?? I would love to see your track videos

[@facelessman7733]

Nobody cares what you want.@@Indifference2000

[@Indifference2000]

@facelessman7733 nobody gives a shit what you drive. But here you are

[@chrism869]

yeah right, it wieghs probably 1000 pounds more,not a chance

[@facelessman7733]

You're right. A car like that FF Honda that spends 100 yards on wheel hop is gonna walk away with a drag race. Get back to me when you get your learner's permit. @@chrism869

[@rickysamson5633]

Yeah right it's very the UGLIEST Honda Civic Type R

[@chrism869]

youre delusional,its not ugly

[@Thankyou_3]

How come you KZbinrs don’t talk about the garbage engine Honda is using now days. Oil dilution issues and eventually blows up the head gasket on all the Honda Turbo engines!

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

Are you still living in the past? oil dilution has been fixed, it’s like 3 years or more ago, just get over with already? Will you? Also, this is 2 liter engine, there is no oil dilution to begin with.

[@Thankyou_3]

@@blackwhirlwind1245😂 Where have you been? Have you not heard that all Honda did was a software update 😂 what can a software update do? They didn’t do anything. Both the 1.5 and 2.0 Turbo engines are garbage and weak components inside the engine. If you are not following the internal bulletins at least talk to local shops, they will tell the truth.

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

@@Thankyou_3 if you insist that oil dilution is still a problem, then there is no reason I should continue to argue with you, go ahead and post a comment about oil dilution in every video.

[@Thankyou_3]

@@blackwhirlwind1245I insist that oil dilution issues still exist because we have fixed so many Honda Turbo engines. Talk to Honda technicians, they will tell you that they are paying off their mortgages faster with overtime money fixing these inferior engines. Essentially, Honda placed weak parts inside the engine, the engines just destroyed themselves inside out. If anyone considering a Honda just get the naturally aspirated engine and even that hit and miss with other issues. Toyota and Mazdas are twice as superior in quality and cheaper too. Many of Toyotas and Mazdas are still Made in Japan.

[@chrism869]

@@Thankyou_3 excuses excuses, absolutely not true, these honda engines are bulletproof , these engines are not garbage ,youre just delusional, the type r's engine is excellent and has no issues. so go ahead continue to be delusional and live in the past

[@Bmwkid330i]

My 330i better in every way. Cheaper, AWD. faster.

[@chrism869]

330i is not faster than the type r, 330i has less hp

[@Bmwkid330i]

@@chrism869 okay well I’ve beaten 2. And I’ve driven both. 330i def is quicker, helps with the xdrive. I still like type r, theres better competition

[@CaseyCollier]

@@Bmwkid330i ...sure you have, mate. Just like how you totally beat that Mustang GT at a stop light, right? The only thing I think a 330i would beat an FL5 Type R in is the material quality in the interior, the infotainment system and the expense of the bill you get when you take it in for servicing. That's basically it. Otherwise, what's the upside to the 330i? AWD? Is that it? I've driven AWD cars before. They're not that impressive, if I'm being honest.

[@MeteorGaming96]

3rd

[@gerry9306]

Hey fella you're 6th