The 2023 Jones Mind Expander Snowboard Review

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[@mikemackenzie3305]

I've been waiting months to see this review. So stoked. Thanks angry

[@collinmerideth8274]

Angry, don’t you post reviews sooner on your patreon page?

[@Jsnip3]

Thanks for the review im looking at this, the ride peace seeker, the orca, and the surfari this helped alot🙏

[@turkeyloco6591]

100% buying one

[@hwy88forever38]

Thanks for your reviews! Looking for a daily and had been looking at the Stratos and stumbled upon the ME. I’m an advanced and older rider (49). Looking for something to plow through chunder and be damp off-piste , hold a solid edge on groomers at speed and not be twitchy, but be maneuverable / playful enough for daily duties with my kids and low speed slashing and side hits. I have a 158 Charlie Slasher that I love for pow days but looking for a modern camber profile board to replace my old Burton relics…158 Rippey and 1995 160 Burton Air. Any advice is appreciated!

[@AngrySnowboarder]

You sound more like a Stratos guy.

[@mr.force1036]

Looked good in my local shop. 😎

[@ericcalcatera274]

What would you say is the big difference between it and the Flagship?

[@pkerr5575]

Thanks for the review, you mention the K2 antidote, I thought this would be similar to the K2 excavator. Is the ME still more freestyle/ softer than the excavator? any other differences? thanks

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Yep. Excavator is more like a Hovercraft.

[@cowscantfilm]

Hey Angry, great review. I'm stuck between this and the Bataleon Party Wave plus for a pow board / (not too aggressive) resort carver. Feel like I'm leaning towards this for better edge hold in firmer / icy conditions with the wavy edges shit it's got going on. What do you rekon?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

This.

[@JackieTreehorn-xd]

Thanks for the video Angry. Subbed. I'm in the market for a dedicated powder board. I have a 2020 Bryan Iguchi Pro Camber 167W for my all mountain already (tall rider, 6'7''). I'm super torn on the Jones ME and whether or not to get the 2023 or the 2022. There are just so so many people who've spoken so highly of the full rocker version. I found an EU website which still has 2022's available, any wise words of wisdom to help me decide what to do?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Ask yourself what you want out of the board then decide what your needs are in regards to the camber profile.

[@matm4077]

Enjoying the reviews! I’m about to buy a pow board for a Japan trip, which will also be my backcountry board in Aus (albeit that means battling some less than ideal days too). Will this be “powder” focused enough? My regular resort board is a burton Kilroy twin. Thanks mate !

[@AngrySnowboarder]

You'll be fine.

[@matm4077]

Thanks mate. Do you prefer this or the Korua Dart? I assume they ride fairly similar?

[@ArnoldBabar]

Been searching for a more powder focused compliment to my 166 Maelstrom for awhile now and this seems like a good option. I’m thinking the 162w to make it a little more nimble in the trees, but with my weight being 230 with no gear on, think the Ultra is worth it to step up? Or would the new stiffer profile suffice?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Ultra is going to be way stiffer than your Maelstrom so that wouldn't make sense. You can do the 62w, but maybe a Hovercraft would better suit you.

[@jeffadams9699]

How does it ride compared to last years Storm Wolf? Best board I have ridden. I love it! BTW, I just got an email from Underground in regards to the raffle winners, congrats on that Rome package!

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Thanks, some lady is going to win a Rome board because of this now. Storm Wolf is way stiffer and more directional. If you like the SW you probably don't want this.

[@peterdoornik5968]

Hallo, I like to ride piste and pow.. should i buy the mind expander or tbe ravine? I like to ride relaxed( i am 47 years old😄)... thanks from holland

[@sax1607]

I’m considering this board the new model at 158 as a dedicated pow deck for Colorado pow/trees/ free ride but also looking at the Ravine Select 158, Bataleon Camel 2 and Gnu Hyper 157 (less dedicated pow but love Gnu and board looks so nice)….I’m 511 boot 8.5 and 180 pounds…what do you think is the best board for the job out of these?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Any of them honestly.

[@bryanvo3048]

Thanks for the review Angry! I was wondering if you would recommend the Mind Expander or K2 Excavator for good float in pow, doing 180’s and 360’s off of side hits, and tree runs?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

I guess Mind Expander.

[@bryanvo3048]

Thanks Angry! Any recommendation for board size if I’m 5’8, 155lb with size 9 boots?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

@@bryanvo3048 54ish

[@Shraito]

What's up Avran? Wanting to pick up last years model of this board but already have a Slush Slasher. I presume the Mind Expander performs better in powder but want to know your opinion in comparing the two boards.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Definitely better in pow, not as good on a groomer. There will be some overlap between the two.

[@jeffroberson7485]

Currently riding a Stratos 161 on Union Stratas as my everyday choices. Great pow year here in UT and looking for something more powder focused. Is this a good choice for pow days? Have a pair of Union Ultra's as well, but have not been using them for much. Looks like you married these two as well. Just don't want another board that is really close/similar to what I'm already riding.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Too much overlap on what you have.

[@rorymatson3190]

Angry, thanks for videos! I was totally sold on the Jones Stratos, given the somewhat playful/poppy nature, carving ability, float, and that you can still ride some switch. How would you compare the ME with the Stratos for exploring, charging, hitting side hits, and all mountain riding?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

More snap, stiffer, more aggressive sidecut, carves deeper and harder, less playful.

[@rustynailriders8211]

@@AngrySnowboarder ME is more snap, stiffness, aggressive and less playful or Stratos-- yes, I am an idiot and accept my position in life

[@dexteroiio]

Hi Angry! I need your advice, which one will fit me better - 70% carving and cruising around 30% occasionally riding pow. Ravine select or mind expander. Thank you!

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Those your only two options?

[@dexteroiio]

@@AngrySnowboarder Maybe Stratos one more. Because i have a good deal on this boards.

[@chadlucier]

I was excited for this review. I am glad I own an older one. Also just picked up the last 21/22 slush slasher on earth I think! Why are companies going back to all mountain on there whole line up???

[@ammakko]

Same! I'm also glad I got my Mind Expander in 2020: flat to rocker and last year with a 9000 base

[@chadlucier]

@Madara whats your snowboard channel?

[@chadlucier]

@Madara but here you are? You sound like a jealous little boy?

[@chadlucier]

@Madara OK? And? You sound like a child that spends all his time spinning around in the park. There is a lot of mountain out there and so much more to the sport than going in circles. Come ride the trees with me it VT. I garauntee ski patrol would be sledding your broke ass, arms and legs out. Also he has a channel based on gear and tech so what does it matter?

[@chadlucier]

@Madara yeah if it ain't wide open and groomed, huh? LoL you haven't ever been to VT.

[@FcKYeahILoVeMusIC]

Hey there, thank you so much for this review. My question is very simple, i wanna get rid of my 2019 Skeleton Key, as i feel the noise flexes too much when carving a bit harder, giving the impression im gonna loose the front end. Would you recommend this one over the skeleton key, as a one board quiver, to ride japan powder a bit of backcountry and groomers? Thanks once again Cheers

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Seems like kind of a lateral move.

[@FcKYeahILoVeMusIC]

@@AngrySnowboarder alright, thanks for the reply, where would you go from the Skeleton Key, like a proper upgrade, if you’re looking to do so ???

[@AngrySnowboarder]

I'd probably go to an Amplid or Korua.

[@tanaeldumais7961]

Hey Angry! I am wondering how would you compare the Mind expander to the Rome Service Dog ?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

ME is stiffer with more camber response from it, rides a little damper underfoot too and the sidecut grips better underfoot.

[@craigdavis5987]

Hey man, sorry late to the party on this one. I’m looking to buy one for a trip to Japan and wonder what size you would recommend. I’m 90kg before boots and jacket with a US 11 boot. Would like the 158 but don’t want to come up short. What are your thoughts? Thank you

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Should work. But in Japan it's never a bad idea to go a little longer.

[@rhv21x14]

Hey angry, would you prefer this or the 22 model for Japan resort carving and pow riding?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Tough call the 22 is a little more loose and surfy with the rocker but this is more precise and powerful.

[@mt816]

What would you say is a comparable "NeverSummer" model? Or do you think this is better quality than NS?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

HAHAHA Never Summer is crap.

[@BioJimBaugh]

Jones Fanboy here, 6'2" 225lbs, currently riding a 160 hovercraft as a daily driver and 167 flagship later in the season and in powder, looking for something more nimble in trees, with a tail to drive me around moguls (kids are all skiers, spend time on the bumps), is the new 158 mind expander the answer? If not, what should I be looking at, shorter flagship....another brand even?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Honestly you're kind of covered with the two you have.

[@BioJimBaugh]

@@AngrySnowboarder Spend more time riding what I got, got it. Thank you, really appreciate the honesty!

[@kirstenstock5932]

Bought the 2024 MET “big horn” for my 15yr old son who weighs 175lbs and has a size 12 boot. He’s an intermediate rider looking to step it up on some jumps and park stuff while still being able to go hard or groomers and keep up with his more experienced friends. He loves powder but we get a solid mix of conditions each season. He was originally asking for the Nitro team board. Do you think the MET is good choice for him? Thanks!

[@kirstenstock5932]

Forgot to mention that I bought him the MET in 158cm.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Is that even wide enough for his boot? The Team was probably more of what he needed.

[@kirstenstock5932]

@@AngrySnowboarder Well, shit. The “big horn” series is definitely big enough for his boot. Based on what my son was saying, guys at Next Adventure in Portland recommended this board to him when they didn’t have the team board in stock. As you can imagine, he was pretty stoked to be getting a board at all!

[@AngrySnowboarder]

It's all good, let him go ride, he'll figure it out.

[@jwlbrace]

How does it compare to the 2021 Flagship? Is it an easier, softer ride?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

It's more precise because of the camber. If you want softer you should look at the Frontier.

[@Joinslayer1]

Hi, I'm trying to decide between this and a Nitro Quiver slash, does anyone know the main differences?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Construction, shaping, sidecut, flex, camber profile, etc. etc.

[@rustynailriders8211]

Angry, what is the principal difference between this and the Stratos for a resort pow and slasher? I have the MET and looking for something a little more "chargy"

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Shape, sidecut, and flex. If you want to charge more and have a MET maybe go to a Storm Wolf or something like that over the ME.

[@rustynailriders8211]

TY!

[@user-sx9qx6kq9y]

Hi. I have a very hard choice. I'm hesitating between two boards. The old Ultra Mind Expander 2022 and the new Mind Expander 2024. I can have both at same prices. I'm expert rider, 175cm and 70kg (FOOTSIZE 25.5). I'm looking for a great fun powder day snowboard and pretty fun on slopes to makes carving turns and little tricks. I have this deal with a 158cm board. Can you help me please ? Thanks a lot

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Sounds like you want the regular.

[@neilwood8794]

I’m on it like sonic ✌️

[@mr.meeseeks4279]

Been eyeing a storm wolf definitely want to get a Jones I already got a lobster eiki pro and a capita mega Merc , Will you be reviewing the storm wolf anytime soon? @angrysnowboarder

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Search is hard: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXOYo4OImcZ3l7s

[@jeffadams9699]

Bought 6 new boards last year, Storm Wolf was by far my favorite!

[@colindole5944]

how does this compare to the sashimi? virtually the same or are there significant differences?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

More rear foot camber, different edge engagement, nose pushes through chop different. Same category different ride.

[@nnojokey2014]

Most important question orca or mind expander ? Which is better all around ?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Mind Expander.

[@nnojokey2014]

@@AngrySnowboarder bold statement

[@AngrySnowboarder]

So you ask a question then tell me it's a bold statement to answer. Get the fuck out of here.

[@nnojokey2014]

@@AngrySnowboarder yeah bold statement as in it that orca is hyped up a lot so you saying the mind expander is Better has weight to it - taking your word. I appreciate the angry ^^^

[@mattcliff3669]

Would you pick this over a burton skeleton key for a low intermediate rider that wants to cruise groomers and chase in bounds powder?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

I wouldn't choose either of them.

[@mattcliff3669]

@@AngrySnowboarder anything you would recommend?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

I'd start here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip6UqXxvfLKom80

[@motoweenies4431]

Wondering how different this is from the party wave plus. Both directional volume shifted boards, obviously the party wave plus is way wider/shorter. Are they in the same category in terms of capability/purpose?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Just, no.

[@NNevil]

Is it an all mountain type of board?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

No

[@dima0david]

How does it compares to Jones Flagship 2022?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

More pow focused, different pop engagement.

[@sandsmediahouse4914]

Can't decide between this and the GNU Gremlin. AHHHHHH!

[@undecisive5637]

How does this compare to K2 Excavator?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Little more nimble edge to edge and floats more back seat.

[@holdup16]

Is there any overlap between mind expander and the Salomon dancehaul

[@AngrySnowboarder]

A little bit you get more precision out of the ME and more play out of the Dancehaul.

[@1randumbguy]

harder to hear with the music background

[@redneckr.c8760]

Trash buckhouse more

[@chadlucier]

"Hey Guys! I am out here at keystone doing nothing for the community. Whatch my latest vid so I can get paid to act like I am the coolest cuck on the hill." -J Cuckhouse.

[@redneckr.c8760]

@@chadlucier thats grat

[@MalcolmPowder]

The background music on this review made me feel anxious. Couldn't concentrate on the review at all.