The 2025 Toyota GR Corolla 8-Speed DAT Review! Terrific or Terrible?

[@iJakku]

Manual only - Yes Manual and Auto - Yes Auto only - No

[@3sgteRHDSWPGEN4sw20]

Perfect

[@Uno_Floydd]

Subjective opinion detected. Opinion invalidated.

[@iJakku]

My opinion - Yes Your opinion - Yes Opinion invalidated - No

[@Uno_Floydd]

@@iJakkuhalf truth fallacy. I believe in the objective truth.

[@yeoscore]

I don’t think offering an additional option can ruin the car

[@Wazup8012]

What ruins the car is not upholding the warranty when things that shouldn’t break, break. Like the engine for example lol.

[@yeoscore]

@@Wazup8012 i don’t keep up with this stuff much anymore so no clue what you’re on about

[@hamsterbrigade]

@@yeoscore You're better off not knowing.

[@yeoscore]

@@hamsterbrigade damn, that bad?

[@guillermopacheco5005]

@@yeoscoredon’t believe everything you hear on the internet from people who have no experience with the car, most likely Honda fan boys trolling 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@dillonsrt]

I'll always appreciate an automatic due to nerve damage driving manual isn't possible for me anymore

[@pokedrago]

thank you a auto is good for cars like this now if only the CTR has one.

[@dillonsrt]

@pokedrago i've been wanting to drive a ctr or an integra type s for ages now.

[@johnnyboy1586]

I am a right leg amputee so a manual is never an option

[@revelare_xvii6269]

The fact that this car puts out 100 HP per cylinder is still crazy. And somehow there are maniacs out there that have managed to make 600+ HP from these things.

[@CobbG37x]

I've always wondered how that works with those guys that are making that much power. Like let's say you went build motor. How much more are you porting the block? Considering how big the cylinder heads are

[@xilusRipper]

Are you serious? That's insane.

[@Freddy_Confetti]

Mercedes cla45 2.0 makes 416 hp

[@KO-i343]

600 out of a GRolla is like 800 out of the CLA - both impressive but the tuners went absolutely nuts

[@hereforthecomments1818]

​@KO-i343 in the uk, they have these engines in the GR Yaris and they're running them at 700-800hp on sequentials in street trim😂

[@bestdiycarcustomization941]

Adding an automatic to any car is never a bad idea from a business standpoint over 80% of people that drive can’t drive a manual transmission

[@10cpaul]

probably why they did it!

[@jenzelk]

Subaru Wrx Cvt has take rate of about 25% so Toyota could be on something here.

[@heh2k]

Manuals are much more common outside of the US.

[@Hernsama]

Might be higher than that

[@tinhinnh]

@@jenzelki thought its less than 10% but i dont blame them, cvt in a wrx? 😂

[@timephire]

Now if we can only get Toyota to put the manual back into the normal Corolla that would be nice.

[@10cpaul]

hatch has one?

[@timephire]

@@10cpaul They killed it when they made the GR Corolla which I felt sucks.

[@XSallennX]

Coming to a toyota dealership near you with a 10k markup!

[@davect01]

Unfortunately

[@danielc1417]

Idiot.

[@Scypher0th]

so then 80k here in canada...since they are 70k before they land at the dealership....No thanks!

[@deadloxswood7071]

@@Scypher0th Idk who Toyota thinks their customer base is lol, when a decent optioned-out Rav 4 is over 50k CAD your literally cross-shopping it between the German options lol. like I cannot simply fathom spending over 100k for a new land cruiser, like wtf who is buying these

[@melvinbrumski1446]

Try 40k around me

[@BrakRulesAll]

I'd take the stick 100 times out of 100, but totally respect anyone who prefers (or needs) an automatic, so to have a choice is good!

[@Prez_Comacho]

As much as i love driving manual, there are times where i wish my FiST would just shift itself. This is a good thing theyre offering it with the DAT. Hopefully more people buy it for general daily use based on how it looks which will boost sales and allow toyota to make the case for its evolution and production for years to come.

[@lllateralus]

Dude.. the thumbnail and title are clickbait in the worst way. Your content should sell itself.. don't go down this road.

[@90beastmaster]

Dont forget that Toyota was the first to bring us a torque converter 8 speed to the market in the ISF back in 2008. It will never out perform others but its still performs pretty damn good, with less maintenance and more reliability being a torque converter.

[@jdmbren13]

I love it over a dct honeslty, they’re too sides to love cause the TC has way more character, the car is so clunky it reminds me of a old lambo shift but it’s faster lol

[@steelresilience]

If this keeps the CTR and ITS alive for a few more years, maybe an automatic option will suffice.

[@MasterDayTrader]

With a good old-fashioned torque converter transmission I like it 👍

[@danielc1417]

You're a bitch and certainly NOT a car enthusiast.

[@lenvillemeserve4285]

I am all set with a car company that won’t back up their sports cars warranty if driven over 85mph. No thank you Toyota!

[@stefanodeanjou8732]

Why is it that some people believe that liking an automatic sports car means you are not an enthusiast?. I love manuals but I also love a good auto and I am every bit of an enthusiast as the guy who loves only manual

[@Skillzpatchi]

It's nice to have options, as long it not a cvt we all good

[@pokedrago]

thank you I agree.

[@guillermoyelamo5816]

I’m keeping my theft-deterrent system middle stick option. Thank you.

[@michaelhartman4725]

I am glad they made an automatic for me I never got the sensation of driving a stick, I have driven a few I like the aspect of simplicity while driving

[@ldm125]

Nothing wrong with options... with all the tech these days we need to feel more freedom not less. I like that this is here, and I (obviously) hope the manual stays as well!

[@pokedrago]

this

[@ajbglolz13]

As someone that has knee problems, it's great to have an automatic option, I would feel sad and left out if he didn't, Plus it rips

[@MarshallRobertsMusic]

So while the thought of a automatic trans makes many of us sad and/or sick to our stomachs.... Having the option for it opens the door for a lot of people. I've been driving and tuning Japanese cars since the early 90's. Along the way i have met some really cool and passionate car enthusiasts who were unable to drive cars with a manual trans because of different disabilities or health issues. If you've ever been to large car events or SCCA race weekends I'm sure you've noticed at least one person in a wheelchair. Having been to a dozen or so SEMA shows over the years, I've met quite a few car fans who were either in wheelchairs or Jazzys etc- who built some really cool cars that were equipped with auto transmissions out of necessity. One of my closest friends has MS and has lost movement in both legs, but owns a number of JDM cars that HAD to be anto trans in order for him to drive them. He actually sent me a text with the link to this video LOL!

[@pokedrago]

I don't know why an auto would make anyone sad and/or sick to their stomachs

[@UpgradeRequired]

Logged in to comment about how annoying it is when these cars come out only in manual but thanks to you and many others that made these points days ago I see it isn't necessary. - one of the guys you see in a wheelchair at the track

[@fj06carnone]

And rage bait thumbnails ruined KZbin.....

[@Oomlie]

Does this new version fix the diff overheating issue? Track designed car that constantly drops awd isnt very fun

[@dneault333]

Accessable sports car, who's warranty is void if you go over 85 mph, and always records if you do so.

[@hitmixhyepock9405]

I used to be all "manual is better/best". All my cars have been 5 speeds. But then I started driving my wife's wrangler....and I could turn my music up and just drive. I couldn't really do that in my cobalt ss. I have realized the benefits of a good auto. I really like the golf transmission, I don't really need to use the paddles, just stomp and go. All while having the fender sound system pushing some bangers.

[@JulianGonzalez1974]

As a 50yr old dude with a bad left knee, this appeals to me more than the manual. I wouldn't track it...well I wouldn't track enough to worry about the car being an auto. If I wanted a track car it wouldn't be this it would be something less expensive and RWD. I live in Denver and do a lot of driving in traffic and I REALLY want a WRX STI but the shifting kills my knee so I'm in a Lexus IS350 AWD. Its a great car with power and reliability. Now that this car has the auto I may be looking for a new car.

[@johnreed1268]

Somebody send this video to Subaru please.

[@caleb7674]

Why? They don't even have a halo car anymore. They aren't interested in placating the enthusiasts, it seems like they're about to go the way of mitsubishi.

[@mc116]

As a daily city driver...a GR developed auto is fantastic. Finally saw one at the local dealership and the trunk is a bit smaller than expected. Love everything else about it though

[@fstap]

The auto is a great option for a daily driver GR Corolla. It's why I went pdk over manual in my 911

[@FullSpeedz]

A dct would have been better but at least there’s the option of auto. I think they were shooting for longevity with it.

[@jardim23]

Being a 8 speed, i figured the gearing would be different (like you said you were in the same gear through a corner in both the auto and manual) enough to make advantage of extra gears and having the ratios closer to help the engine stay in peak power.

[@Space.Folding]

7:35 one push of the traction control button does not "turn everything off", but not as complex as Type R's pedal dance

[@johnmorrison8351]

That really looks like it could be quite something! If production specs and pricing is close I’d definitely be interested

[@SneakyMuskrat]

I do like the launch control simplicity. On my stock Ford Focus RS that I previously owned, you had to go through several menus to activate it.

[@lolz111000]

I want the automatic to be widely accepted because I believe its the only shot I have of getting one in a few years hopefully. I don’t trust Subarus boxer engines. And hearing that toyota made their own bespoke awd car. I couldn’t have been more excited.

[@entropy11]

I don't know if you've heard but the GR Corolla's engine has been having a bit of a thing with setting itself on fire.

[@lolz111000]

@@entropy11 Did you know that tends to happen when you money shift a car and put a hole in the block...There's more to that story.

[@Keen_Edge]

I LOVE my ZF8 transmission in my BMW 328d and it's fantastic. Love it as a torque converter auto. Sure, I wish they made 328ds in manual, but the auto was good enough for me to be okay letting go of a manual.

[@danielcluley870]

If I bought a GR, I would probably want manual just for the fun of it, but for my Corolla Hatch SE daily I got a manual just for the convenience. I could see a market for this for people who DO actually want to use a GR as a daily. My hatch is sportier than most with some mods, but I am really happy I got the auto due to driving in stop and go traffic and on the interstate mostly. Having that option for a fast daily that can be both a grocery getter and a track car for somebody that wants to do that makes sense.

[@jimtrinh5767]

At the end of the day, Toyota is a business, and if offering an auto helps it sell more cars then that's great. Still having a manual to pick from should keep the enthusiasts happy. I can understand losing the 'exclusivity' of a manual only line up will upset the fan boys, but as long as there's the option for either transmission they shouldn't complain. Don't like auto? Then don't buy that variant.

[@timw2083]

I love my manual GRC but its a good idea to open it to more buyers. And yes they are available without markups

[@HyperVanilo]

When they announced that the updated GR Yaris will have automatic version, I know they will do the same to GR Corolla

[@CaptainBlitz]

Why would you get upset if Toyota added an extra option so that more people get to enjoy a great car? Go buy the manual and don't gate keep the experience.

[@iceicebabyil]

Does it come preburned down?

[@cse5975]

I watched Matt Watson test the GR Yaris they auto was originally developed for to make the car faster in race settings. It was an intresting review he did last year. So it might be new here but... its at least a year old for the GR Yaris. 😉

[@thomaszinser4894]

One of the best "I don't want it, but I'm glad it exists" video's of 2024

[@sock979]

As long as they don't take away the manual I think it's fine. I think it's great because yeah like you said it'll get more people into it

[@raviolitrail]

The more GR Corollas, the better.

[@roywhiteo5]

I have a 16 audi s5 dsg and that toyota sounds like it downshifts smoother than mine

[@corlaez]

is the launch control exclusive to automatic? No mention about which of the 3 different track tests was faster than the other?

[@FD2TypeS]

for someone who used to drive manual before an accident, the auto for the corolla gr looks promising

[@itsmaceYT]

Something like this can only help make the aftermarket more affordable (for both models). Which I am sure is important to those who have a manual.

[@SatongiFilms]

why your stock footage looks like its been 360p scaled to full screen? its not the first time

[@jacoblittle3209]

One thing I am not looking forward to is now when these things hit the used market you'll have to filter out all of the automatic to find a manual. And let's be real, they'll mostly be automatics by that time. That's what I loved about shopping for my fiesta ST, they are all manual

[@thebeddoctor4273]

I was thinking sweet. My wife always wanted a corolla. Now we can get one because she can't drive a manual. I get to tell her it's an AWD corolla for the winter so it's safer.

[@nooneymotorsports]

People are going to be in support of the auto until the take rate on the auto forces the discontinuation of the manual just saying it’s definitely a possibility

[@faheemabbas3965]

That’s why people get worried when auto comes to a manual car.

[@johntomlin803]

Listen a manual car is great don’t get me wrong, I own one now a BRZ that I daily. I live in Jacksonville Florida so honestly it’s not very comfortable; it’s not a killer but I would enjoy the car a lot more if it was auto paddle shifter. The 10speed mustang is a dream to drive honestly… it’s got the ability to drift still, it’s faster in the straight line, it’s easier on the legs and hips idk to be honest I grew up a manual guy but these new 8-10 speed autos are awesome for the street.

[@LuisFelipepg96]

Don't fall for that, here in Brazil they start putting autos on the sport version end some years after pulled the plug on the manual all together, only the cheap 1.0 litter 3 cylinders economic cars are sold with manual transition now, I'm stuck with my 2019 entry level Civic (last year and only model sold with a manual transmission here)

[@colbysmith1398]

Sounds like the paddle shifters are pretty responsive. Some vehicles with paddles have a terrible delay where there paddles are not really useable. Pretty nice.

[@simonwatling2203]

do you notice the power loss on the torque converter? you would think a torque converter would be pretty brutal on a 1.6

[@shaggy_e210]

It's the one I'm gunna end up buying 🤷🏻‍♂️ I already own and plan on building my manual corolla hatch xse. So having another fun and fast corolla would just be dope🤙🏻

[@Mushroomancer]

I’m surprised not many people are discussing the paddles. If they are going through the trouble of putting in an auto trans and tuning it and touting it has quick shifts, why keep the same plastic paddles as every other Toyota. They couldn’t be bothered with spending a little more for some good feeling paddles, it baffles me.

[@sixsixST2]

Still no middle console lid...where am I supposed to put my right elbow on a long drive?

[@Jeff-lt9xr]

i usually dont like driving automatics but i prefered the automatic in the GR86 over the manual. maybe i had some weird assists on when test driving but it felt so disconnected

[@tinhinnh]

should theyve kept the 273(?) ft-lb in the core trim and only the premium trim get the 295ft-lb to make it worth the upgrade?

[@TheoTheCrasher25]

Suprising to see you at the charlotte roval

[@Mc88Flyy]

Those are actually some really quick shifts with the paddles, considering it’s a regular tq conv auto.

[@original__gmebvy]

It actually doesn’t have a torque converter, ironically. I watched a video on the transmission and how it’s built, there’s no funny looking torque converter. It’s really a series of clutches that have super close ratios much like the manual. In actuality the first gear of the auto and the manual is the same ratio, but gears 2 through 6 are actually closer ratios than the manual, and the last 2 gears are for high speed cruising.

[@kyangsable]

Imagine putting a high stall torque converter with a high pressure valve body. Thanks for the content. Try lowering the treble in your voice recording to round out your voice it was screeching to the ears alittle.

[@googlewolly]

It's objectively beneficial that this can also be had as an automatic now. Some peope, for numerous reasons, prefer automatic.

[@louisbabycos106]

I miss the CHR . I wish they would have put the Toyota GR COROLLA power train into CHR .

[@TheSuburban15]

The GR86 is pretty accessible, are the others though? Will the GR Corolla ever be cheaper than a 3 year old base Corvette?

[@j.barrett9424]

Man if had a DCT they would have to make it for the next 20 years

[@Lucxs705]

Davin in a helmet will never not be funny asf to me

[@Chris-qr1bf]

Not sure how it is over in the US market but here in Aus the i30N and Elantra N have been dominating performance car sales (auto and manuals). The only things you see at track days and mountain runs are N cars. Why though? Because the price to performance ratio + track warranty has sold them. The GR and Type R are too expensive to compete in Aus. What a shame as I’d love to see more competition, but it’s fair to say Hyundai has won the hearts of most enthusiasts down under.

[@ThaKenMan]

Kinda like that Mitsubishi did with the Evo X. Both sold well I guess it just depends on which the customer wants.

[@Mrillsick]

I would only entertain a dct but it seems like they got it better than expected

[@carsinruin6102]

It would be fine as an option, however; there are going to be a bunch of people who will purchase it who wouldn’t buy it otherwise and it will scavange people from manual sales-because lazy. And eventually Toyota will say there’s no point to a manual.

[@cj41079]

Evo 7 and X (DCT) had auto One of STI was auto, I think it was hawkeye called A spec Little twist is fun I guess 😅😅😅

[@JuanLopez-oz9kh]

Great options, GR never forget its targets (fans)

[@jasonmejia1338]

Wish you would've added lap times.

[@Silverbulletzx3]

I wonder if they fixed the diffs overheating

[@christophermccord3757]

How wide is it with mirrors included

[@enzofanfics9897]

Cant blame them; they need to reach the american buyer somehow.

[@E46_wagonlover]

I don’t know why they made an automatic version. It would have been cool to say it only comes in manual. Especially with today’s technology the car does most of it itself.

[@pokedrago]

Then, this car would fall like the others, which were manual only. It is not a smart play.

[@E46_wagonlover]

@@pokedrago on god my opinion doesn’t matter my car is 21 years old and my e36 is 31 years old. I’m not buying new cars because I am broke. Bro I’m an idiot on the internet I’m aware that it ain’t smart business wise but I don’t care I think it’s cooler for people who want the car to have to learn an ancient art that is being lost.

[@faheemabbas3965]

Is it because you’re worried that people buying the automatic version will cause Toyota to discontinue the manual version?

[@E46_wagonlover]

@@faheemabbas3965 truth be told in my mind you buy a GR because you are an enthusiast. If you don’t know how to drive manual the GR Corolla is so new and filled with technology you can learn by driving it. I’m pretty sure the auto version is gonna help Toyota make money so they can continue to sell the manual versions and continue to innovate. I’m just speaking as a guy on the internet that drives manual and auto and I see the car as an enthusiast car it just makes sense that it would be more popular as a manual only. But again the auto will only help not hurt

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@E46_wagonlover Keep in mind these modern autos aren't the slush boxes of yesterday. Modern autos and DCTs shift so much faster than any human can, and they don't have too worry about hitting that dreaded money shift. As someone did with a GR, and ended up with a $14k shop bill. Honestly it's pretty cool what Gazoo cooked up here. This new auto not only shifts fast, but it has a system similar that Porsche has in the new 911 PDK, it detects when you're going into corners, and adjust the shift points to maximize your exit speed.

[@Lycothrax2012]

To be honest, I'm a die-hard Toyota fan, and I love the technology in these cars but not a fan of the look of either the Yaris or the Corolla.

[@shaggy_e210]

it's definitely an acquired taste for sure. The rear end fender flares still kinda throw me off a bit

[@davect01]

Same Given the Civic or Corolla, hands down tbe Civic looks better

[@Scypher0th]

Now imagin paying over 70k for one of these...because that is the price of these BEFORE they land at the dealerships and BEFORE dealership markup here in canada....now can you justify that price tag for this car? HELLL NO! Cars worth 35k TOPS in my eyes....aint no way these r worth more than a Mustang GT or a new used Challenger Scat Pack SRT

[@lloydhulette7101]

Plus more of an aftermarket for it!

[@bigboy6969100]

4 door 4 seats come on fast and perfect

[@cupertinoish]

I have a Civic type R and I hope Honda will take note and make an auto Integra Type S

[@original__gmebvy]

They should have taken the 10 speed from the Accord 2.0 Turbo and stuck that in there as an option along with the base car. Some of the Honda faithful hate when I say that but Acura is a luxury brand, most people who buy a car under a luxury brand don’t want a manual, they’re choosing to avoid a large section of the market that would be interested in buying one but won’t cause there’s no auto option and they don’t want to step up to something larger like a TLX. Why they also stuck a CVT in the base Integra instead of a regular or even a DCT style auto makes no sense to me.

[@pokedrago]

Yessss Please Honda

[@Vermonstered]

​@@original__gmebvyDoubtful. As the masses already look at the ITS as expensive. Add in the now discontinued Accord 10 speed and raise the price at all it's simply not a great buy relative to an S3/S4 or m340i. Since the ITS lacks so many basic features like a sun roof, memory seats, cooled seats, among dozens of others yet will be spanked as a touring car (might handle slightly better), and definitely has no ability for AWD. And yes, at that price range of mid to high $50k for a relatively loud lift back it makes little sense to design in the auto to sell maybe 3000 units a year.

[@dustinbennie1813]

Until it spontaneously bursts into flames, and Toyota voids your warranty because you exceeded 80mph. SMH... yes, it's a thing. Look it up.

[@joeschmoe5009]

This car is fire! Bet its got a killer warranty

[@joezhang8767]

They first need to figure out the engine blow up problem before they sell lol.

[@angrytexan666]

It will make a good parts car

[@ianramos7437]

Should start new segment called 'let's talk about it'

[@Malficion]

They just 3x their sales number with that change. 😂

[@FullSpeedz]

They definitely did. I mean Hyundai did the same thing except with a dct.

[@crimnvL]

im not using stick for a daily, why would u track a new car

[@Trillyer]

Smart marketing on Toyota’s end

[@MissMayITheBreather]

Stop calling these accessible/affordable. They are not. The target audience cannot afford them. Same goes for the Type R.

[@Chicopage]

$50k plus possible markup. Easy pass for me. Plenty of used cars for that price that are just as fun to drive.

[@forgetfulyoseph]

I'll still keep my sti , cause I can pass over 85 and still keep my warranty

[@RoutinePlumbingLLC]

id take the auto. driving 99% of the time youre in traffic or just in the same gear on the highway for a longer trip. finding us cheap, crashed or damaged manual for the track.

[@ejsvirtualgarage]

Just imagine if Honda did this with the Civic Type-R...don't think it's gonna happen, though.

[@19hundoc47]

There would be an automatic Civic R, who cares

[@DragonKnightX12]

I don't know if it could fit on the Civic, but the ZF 9-speed they use would make it a lot faster.