The $2M Longevity Protocol: Bryan Johnson’s Biohacking Blueprint | Rich Roll Podcast

Rich sits down with longevity advocate and Project Blueprint founder Bryan Johnson to discuss his quest to radically expand his lifespan and not die. To read more about Bryan and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll810
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00:00:00 Intro
00:04:03 Questioning Reality and Fishbowl Analogy
00:05:33 Handling Critics and Adversity
00:07:56 Challenging the Inevitability of Aging
00:11:49 Bryan Johnson's Upbringing in a Mormon Community
00:15:48 Impact of Leaving the Mormon Community
00:19:13 Trauma and Control in Shaping Bryan Johnson's Life
00:20:09 The Struggle with Depression
00:21:00 Questioning Reality and Authority
00:22:06 Discovering the World Numerically
00:23:35 Distrust in Reality and Focus On Not Dying
00:24:38 Transition from Religion to Data and Numbers
00:25:40 Connection with Historical Figures and the Future
00:27:54 Different Way of Thinking and Neurodivergence
00:31:10 Sponsor Break
00:32:34 Back to Show
00:35:06 Teasing Out Intuitions About the Future
00:38:38 AI's Potential Impact on Decision Making
00:40:55 Relinquishment of Human Choice to AI
00:41:32 The Dinner Thought Experiment
00:42:02 Human Resistance to Relinquishing Control
00:44:37 Reconciling Diverse Views of Reality
00:46:16 Challenging the Notion of Agency
00:52:54 Empowering the Body and AI
00:55:27 Ethical Concerns and the Fear of Outsourcing
00:57:56 The Imperative of Survival and the Role of AI
00:59:32 Existentialism and Self-Awareness
01:01:19 Aligning Personal and Global Objectives
01:06:16 Programmable Reality
01:10:29 The Power of Superintelligence
01:14:13 The Blueprint Protocol
01:18:21 Organ Level Approach
01:19:51 Importance of Sleep
01:23:38 Embracing the Entirety of the Program
01:24:02 Mythology of Sleep Deprivation
01:24:51 Shifting Awareness on Sleep
01:25:54 Panel of People as Superintelligence
01:29:04 Future Self-Service
01:30:32 Nutrition and Caloric Approach
01:32:23 Scientific Evidence in Nutrition
01:32:59 Speed of Aging and Biological Clocks
01:36:55 Caloric Restriction and Aging
01:40:37 Universal Understanding of Aging Process
01:41:57 Fighting for Longevity
01:43:42 Plasma Transfusion and Healthspan Extension
01:44:54 Embracing the Irony of Mortality
01:46:09 Compassionate Plant-Based Diet
01:48:56 Supplement Protocol and Personalized Nutrition
01:50:53 Complexities of Measuring Health and Aging
01:55:47 Criticism and Skepticism in the Longevity Field
01:59:44 Blueprint as a Global Revolution
02:00:34 Scaling Blueprint into a Broader Movement
02:02:29 Revolutionizing Nutrition and Self-Destruction Culture
02:03:30 The Transparency of Project BluePrint
02:04:29 Impact of Bryan's Work on Rich's Family
02:06:16 Future Goals and Cultural Impact
02:08:11 Challenges of Societal Change
02:08:50 Zeroism and Philosophical Conversation
02:09:54 Human Ambition and Future Vision
02:13:13 First Principles Thinking and Zeroism
02:15:13 Gen Zero and the Future of Humanity
02:19:19 Personal Struggles and Future Aspirations
02:22:34 Challenges of Personal Relationships
02:24:01 Attractiveness of the Model and Social Implications
02:24:23 Father-Son Relationship
02:25:46 Media Perceptions
02:27:42 Parting Words
02:32:02 Credits
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[@richroll]

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[@sunflower-oo1ff]

Wow …am surprised you got Bryan on…..love the guy, he is one of a kind, honest and genuine. Why, oh why, did you wait to put this video out just now, when you did it in November 😉

[@dinomiles7999]

Sell sell sell Baby $$$$$$$ The hustle culture is DEAD! Wake up Rich . Where's Julie . Your turning into another JOE EGO ROGEN ! SAD .

[@dylanehall]

Excellent conversation

[@mmlfdxl]

The neurodivergent comment was rude. Could have done better there.

[@withyoctopus]

I thought this guy was really strange. Then he just talked about the autistic experience so much and therefore I liked him. Very relatable. Really cool. The way he talked about school and feeling connected to dead people in books and the way he talks about power games of people. That's all what I got, too.

[@wolftress2503]

This guy makes me want to live longer just for the sole reason to see how long he lives.

[@sissi5598]

Me too! Unfortunately I‘m older than him, so I will for sure miss the critical years…

[@carrieolson3352]

this made me laugh out loud! and I have thought the same

[@divinusmaximus1315]

But we all know the answer. He will have an average between 46 and 100... Poor guy. I've just saw a photo of him. He is 46 and on the photo he looks like... as a wealthy 46

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

He probably won't live much longer than anyone else in his family. Senescence is mostly determined by your genes.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@divinusmaximus1315 He actually looks pasty and unhealthy. His body fat/BMI is too low.

[@Jaelri]

It’s an interviewee like Bryan Johnson that enables Rich Roll to demonstrate what an exceptionally brilliant interviewer he is. In awe…

[@amyhumphreys8055]

Well said! I was thinking exactly the same thing.

[@bethaustin1884]

DITTO! Came here to say same! I came away respecting Roll that much more.

[@tomfoster7556]

🐐

[@RJ-iu7ze]

I couldn't agree more with this.

[@ellenlewis3562]

Agreed!

[@JenniferMyers]

I’ve now listened to over a dozen hours of Bryan being interviewed on various podcasts, and this one stands out as the best and most illuminating offering to date. Rich’s ability to ask meaningful yet practical questions coupled with Bryan’s willingness to give us access to his inner voice and motivations behind Project Blueprint made for a sublime experience as an audience member. His Gen Zero philosophy and zeroth principles thinking stand out to me. Gratitude to the both of you.

[@alee5106]

👍

[@the5starlifeunlimited]

Excellent demonstration of male bonding through authenticity and genuine sharing from the core of being and relating at a higher level!

[@Theauthenticty]

Hey, good to see you here!

[@KrattarKrattar]

I’m 35, basically worked myself to death last 15 years. Stayed up until 5AM probably 80% of the last decade. I got wealthy but I have finally just admitted to myself - this doesn’t make me happy - at all. I thought it would. Rather the opposite. Went on Blueprint a month ago, never felt better. F**k this present age, I want to be a part of that potiential amazing future. Gonna do all it takes, gonna live in the service of my future self from now on. Bryan has completely opened my eyes. Good luck everyone, and thank you Bryan. You are a remarkable person ❤️ Don’t die.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Transhumanism is just a substitute of self for God. Pure narcissism.

[@bossqueeat]

Then I am God.

[@MostAlpha]

Wealth is a fake construct. True wealth is your mental, physical and spiritual health; and everything downstream of that.

[@annmarieknapp]

​@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 I know we all are going to die. But, we can lengthen the lifespan. I want to get back my more youthful body and to actually enjoy some of my life. Not doing Blueprint at moment, because I can not consume that diet. But, am doing other aspects of Blueprint and am on carnivore to reduce my inflammation, which has worked. I don't want my brain to be interfaced with AI or any other tech based platform. My soul is mine and so is my consciousness. I like Bryan and his message.

[@mogx2586]

Love in the service of the Lord my friend - that's all that's required. This man is very ill. I hope he finds truth and light quickly.

[@JRClubbIII]

You see in these comments how much more open minded, compassionate and loving Rich Roll’s audience is. Any other KZbin channel and Bryan gets roasted. This was a great interview and I’m a super fan of both of you. Thanks.

[@Dontbustthecrust]

Has bryan ever done an interview with an actual doctor?

[@user-ij5ky4lr3x]

I didn't appreciate the thumbnail clip claiming "The man that ages backwards" when that is not Bryan Johnson's claim. He ages at a slower pace than most, but still ages forward like everyone else. Maybe if you boil a few of his results down into isolation, you could make that claim about that specific organ or metric, but overall, the "man" is still aging forwards. Keep in mind that when your age is measured biologically at 46, what that actually means is that you are as healthy as the general population at age 46.

[@Dontbustthecrust]

@@user-ij5ky4lr3x which is why he should do an interview with someone like Dr Peter Attia. It'll help clarify some of the odd things he claims or is claimed about him.

[@benjaminosborn2237]

totally - but what is interesting is on IG he gets roasted. Says something about the IG crowd

[@erniechipdouglas9779]

​@benjaminosborn2237 The IG fools are uneducated at best. I honestly can get behind bryans theory. He is genuine i can sense his honesty through the screen sure hes what some call quirky but i can see who he is there is no fake essence about him

[@swadesigns448]

Leaving this comment with the hopes that Bryan reads this. In this interview, he came across as one of the most honest, upfront, authentic, thoughtful and emotionally evolved human beings, I have ever witnessed. He was so vulnerable in his brutal acceptance of his humanness. I have followed his work for some time, and have learned and benefitted a lot from his longevity protocol. I wish him the very best on this journey, and I hope he finds a beautiful partner in a person who is aligned with his values and goals.

[@robinsaxophone232]

We’ll said. I agree.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

You need to get out more.

[@robinsaxophone232]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 I think that people who go to content they aren’t interested in just to make irrelevant, unintelligent comments need to get out more.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@robinsaxophone232 Simp

[@robinsaxophone232]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 😅😅😅

[@dekaOsiris]

I just love how polite Bryan is, absolutely wholesame and caring

[@Alice-es2rs]

My favourite interview so far of Bryan Johnson. Rich was able to connect with the intimate part of Bryan Johnson; he was never in the caricature, and he has opened up the space for a profound exchange between the two.. Bravo.. I was captivated from beginning to the end of the interview!

[@brookeb7994]

Yes! Wholly agree. Just before this podcast I watched Bryan on Dave Asprey's podcast. What a difference! This was a refreshingly unique conversation. The more I see of both these men, the more my respect for them grows.

[@holliebingham1311]

Same here🙌 I was not expecting to feel warm and fuzzy after their conversation, but here I am, having renewed hope for humanity. 💗🫶

[@Veegan4theanimals]

As a 15 years vegan i see his intusiasm, determination and his compassion, and that gives me hope for humanity. I hope a lot of people see this interview. Thank you Bryan.

[@caseofthe]

"My mind is a drunken sailor." - Rich Roll 😂💎

[@ellenlewis3562]

😂

[@IsaacSMILE]

I did like that.

[@tomdee6819]

I don't want to join the matrix.

[@SoundCheck-mx8cw]

This guy is profoundly awesome.

[@VeronicaTorres-fm9ew]

What an interesting podcast. Kudos to Bryan for being different. Kudos to Rich for facilitating a deep conversation.

[@SMullener]

This was the best, THE BEST, conversation I’ve heard with Bryan! I have a clear understanding of his mission that I’ve never gotten from his other conversations! Well done Rich!!! 🧡🙏🧡

[@IsaacSMILE]

Yeah it really was awesome. I think Bryan is getting better at refining his points. Distilling them down and adding better analogy's.

[@SMullener]

@@IsaacSMILE 💯 agree!!

[@bgrune1]

I'm doing the low budget version of Mr. Johnson's program. I'm using a lot of the strategies that Dr. Michael Greger suggests in his book "How Not to Age". I would say that it is working. I'm 53 but my metabolic age is 46. I'm running my second marathon in March. My goal is to maximize my healthspan as well as my lifespan as much as possible and take advantage of the advances in anti-aging medicine as those occur in the future. If I had the resources I would probably pursue many of the therapies that Mr. Johnson is doing if I'm honest.

[@SapientEudaimonia]

What are the major interventions that you are using?

[@bgrune1]

@@SapientEudaimonia I’m mainly focusing on the basics with optimized sleep, a healthy plant based diet, lots of exercise including cardio and weight training, spending time with friends and family preferably outdoors, etc. On a more esoteric level I have a supplement regimen and I’ve developed a carefully designed fiber blend which I take twice daily. My diet is also pretty thoughtfully designed. For example I’ve created a wild blueberry oatmeal recipe that actually contains many functional ingredients such as Amla powder, moong dal, barley groats, high ORAC spices such as cloves, Ceylon cinnamon, allspice, nutmeg, etc. I batch cook this recipe about once a week and eat it with fresh fruits and soy milk and sprouted flax powder every day. I also batch cook 6 pounds of frozen collard and mustard greens at a time in my 8 quart Instant Pot and eat those with everything else I cook throughout the week. I could go on and on.

[@Dontbustthecrust]

How specifically is metabolic age determined?

[@gregmushen597]

Oof, listening to Greger. That’s a mistake.

[@gamblinguru33]

I would limit marathon running. Excessive exercise will accelerate the accumulation of molecular and cellular damage

[@JB_Begins_Again]

This interview was a masterpiece Mr. Rich Roll. You’ve demonstrated once again your art of interviewing and connection with your guests. You’ve taken a very misunderstood man and allowed him to be truly seen and heard. I have a new found respect for what he is doing and his reasonings behind it. You’ve breathed a new life in his mission. So much respect for both of you. And congrats on finally achieving a million subscribers. You’ve earned it!!

[@sheridixon190]

Yesssss!!!

[@holliebingham1311]

God, I could not agree more, what a beautiful conversation. 🙏💕

[@ThatVeganTeacherYouTube]

Good advice: Lean in to the trolls. Say, “Yes, and….”

[@TheOldMillennial]

I really appreciate how Rich helps him to pause and reflect on his upbringing, and his current mission. Bryan is an example of someone doing really interesting work today, despite a traumatic childhood. He is controversial, but his dedication both with his money and his time has started to show us some great data. More importantly, allows for great conversations around longevity. Thank you guys for sharing this conversation.

[@loppan4534]

So true. He’s fascinating. I wouldn’t do it even if I could but we should appreciate his contribution to humanity ❤

[@jansmith3158]

Brian has no awareness to listen to his god give gut instincts. He only realize on "scientific data". Brian also looked sickly now he is spray tanning his skin so he appears to look "healthy". he also dyes his hair to hide his age. Opposed to channel Dr Sean Omara who eats a carnviore diet with fremented veggies (which puts good gut bacteria into the immune system), weight trains and he sprints. Plus he does not try to hide his age. He looks healthy & fastastic with a 30 year old body. EAT MEAT it keeps you health & happy.

[@mogx2586]

He's made himself a guinea pig in search of something that will not end well. Where will you be when this man irreparably hurts himself? He already looks very unwell. Pride is a terrible sin. I suffer from it daily but this poor man is in utter slavery to it.

[@antonigroulx-comeau8640]

What a gift to have both Rich and Bryan in one podcast. Thank you !

[@djones2857]

This is one of the most moving conversations I've ever witnessed. Rich Roll is an extraordinary human and probably the best interviewer of all podcasters. This is my first time ever hearing Bryan speak and he is nothing like the way he is portrayed. In my opinion you are both neurodivergent - which, in this completely insane world - is a huge compliment. Bravo and thank you to both of you.

[@andyobrienAOBSS]

Best interview of Bryan on the web. He explores both a breadth and depth of Bryan's ideas and life. Even if you are repulsed by Bryan and completely disagree with Bryan's experiment you can appreciate the thought and philosophy that goes into it. I have never listened to a Rich Roll interview before; I will be listening to more.

[@brennanleyen]

RR is by far the best thinker and interviewer I’ve come across. Another great podcast is Diary of a CEO. Bryan is a visionary and innovator and I’m so glad he is in my generation.

[@cambodiaparadise]

Couldn’t agree more- they should work together ❤

[@Dontbustthecrust]

I would have more respect for him if he didn't cherry pick interviews and did some with doctors. If he's doing science, the critical review part that is required from the scientific method is lacking.

[@cambodiaparadise]

@@Dontbustthecrust Did you pay full attention to the interview until the very last second? I understand it’s a rough start to invest 2,5h. It’s not just about Bryan; he “simply” made it (it’s almost magical that he made it) through the noise first with a clear vision and had the courage to take the lead. All minor details, like the most accurate measurement etc., will be addressed in the future hopefully in a discussion involving most humans alive

[@Dontbustthecrust]

@@cambodiaparadise you sound like someone talking about his cult leader.

[@VaginaGandhi]

Only Rich could interview Bryan and bring out this level. What a relief for Bryan to finally be fully received. The fact Bryan can articulate as he did in this interview, demonstrates the magnitude of hidden genius he already possesses. I'd date Bryan in a heartbeat ;)

[@nancy3102]

I love how Rich holds such a kind compassionate space allowing Bryon to be seen for the incredibly beautiful human being he is. Absolutely incredible. I too hope Bryon finds love he deserves to be loved….he’s clearly loved by this community! ❤️🙏🏻❤️

[@divinusmaximus1315]

"I too hope Bryon finds love" - Well it's time to this to be happened... he is 46... Actually he doesn't look for love but eternal life... Poor man.. he's already fallen...

[@jamk2668]

@@divinusmaximus1315 Seems like he has love for his children. Doesn't seem like he needs to look for it.

[@divinusmaximus1315]

@@jamk2668 I have two... already adults. I loved them, brought them up, so I didn't have as much time like this guy has for himself. He doesn't need love cos he love himself enough....

[@tomsmithtomsmith]

One of my favorite moments is where Bryan responds to Rich's question about whether it is too late for some of us to save ourselves by saying genuinely we should all maintain hope. I have tried to pose these ideas to friends and family .... some get what I'm saying but feel its too late for them...and hearing Bryan say it's not too late for any of us makes me so encouraged to continue trying to inspire positive change in those I care about.

[@robtleroux]

“Have compassion for everyone you meet, even if they don't want it. What appears bad manners, an ill temper or cynicism is always a sign of things no ears have heard, no eyes have seen. You do not know what wars are going on down there where the spirit meets the bone.” ~ Miller Williams

[@brianmaclean2078]

This was the best interview that Rich Roll has ever done in my opinion, great emotional sensitivity, excellent questions and comments. In listening to several of Bryan Johnson’s past interviews, I was left uninspired and unimpressed. This interview, however, led me to a 180° reassessment. Deep respect now for Bryan’s courageous, exploratory spirit! I will be eagerly following Bryan‘s journey from this time forward.

[@tanyalawrencetransformatio7666]

A wonderfully thought-provoking conversation between two thought-leaders of the world. It has the hallmarks of the beginning of a true friendship. I hope Brian finds his compatible person soon.

[@zzzabcd13]

I think Bryan is a genius and one of most humble person out there. I think that Bryan started something really importnant which will have huge impact on humanity in the future. I wish that Blueprint would create a space such as meetings, memberships ect. for its members as I want to be a part of it. I want to thank Bryan for creating such great ideology. I just started implementing some of the protocol habits and hoping to get better with that in nearest future.

[@barbbrazes869]

Rich Roll is the best interviewer!! Kind, compassionate, thoughtful and always so interested and interesting! Thanks!

[@jacqui6153]

That was so beautiful to listen too. I've see many interviews with Bryan but none that we more real and intimate than this. Rich is the master of having amazing conversations with some of the most interesting and smart people. Bryan you are an incredible human being and the dedication you put into this research to move the needle is unfathomable

[@Ekaterinazeigst]

I'm always impressed at how thoughtful Bryan is in his responses and goes out of his way to say when he is grateful for certain questions and comments. He seems to be a great listener. Kudos for all he is trying to do, and thank you, Rich, for managing to have conversations that bring out more from your guests than what we've heard before.

[@bychelo2139]

My mind is a drunken sailor too!!! I also fired my evening self a year ago😅 This was the best interview I have listened to with Bryan . Thank you Rich. To Bryan , I’m looking forward to checking out the products when they come out. So far I’ve been able to do the “poor man” version of blueprint for the last couple years while working as a hair and makeup artist in the film industry. We work crazy hours and live in a crazy world , so if I can do it , others will and can too.

[@traveladdictsanonymous]

This is the deepest interview with Bryan I’ve ever seen. ❤

[@davidjames8948]

A profoundly moving interview and a reminder of why Mister Roll is the best in the game. I’ve been following Rich Roll for a while now and I feel like every episode changes me somehow. My life before and after discovering RR is so different. Thank you Bryan for your ethos and erudite elucidation on your mission. Great thinkers not only wander the halls of their own conceptual infrastructure, they act; they live their principles. Thank you for your integrity, your courage and your imagination. Since listening to this wonderful interview with Bryan I myself feel confronted and disturbed enough by my own inertia and perhaps brave enough to question the corners, bumps and angles of my own existence. Who am I? And what do I not know? Wow. One of the best conversations on being human I have heard in my lifetime. Thank you. There are new altitudes for humanity made conceivable by questioning the standard model of experience. Thank you Bryan.

[@mjlangley1500]

This is one of the most remarkable interviews I have heard. The generosity of both of you is a testimony to your love and compassion for humanity. This found me at the right moment, that synchronicity arriving like a train on schedule. I am excited to explore this more and am grateful to you both for each of your purposes and opening up this conversation so personably. 🙏🏼

[@cambodiaparadise]

❤ 100%

[@robmcafe]

rue!, the honesty in itself is generous and inspiring

[@ign0bilium]

I love this man. Blessing for humanity in so many ways.

[@LeTuanDtv]

Golden Key of life, Bryan Johnson is the Evolution of Humanity! Thank you for all your Blessing!!!

[@ttzz175]

Number 1 priority, having enough money to live. Money for food, housing. Top of mind is always survival.

[@argentonomad910]

This was a great interview that showed the human side of Bryan and gave me a much better understanding of him and his work. Not what I expected. I agree with so many of his ideas and would be happy to have a guy like him as a friend.

[@dominicstlaurent]

This interview is the best of Bryan that I have seen! Rich reveals how skilled he is as an interviewer.

[@suziseha369]

I agree 100%

[@JustAnotherView101]

Both these men are a beautiful example of openness to listen , understanding, of each one’s journey n a love to serve. Thank you.

[@balancelifewithjuliebrar9941]

It took me a few days to get through this podcast. One of my favorite things about how Rich interviews guests is that he asks questions no one else asks. I have listened to Bryan on other podcasts & feel that those other podcasts failed to capture the depth of this endeavor. I loved the nuisance of this conversation. It went so deep! I’m going to listen to it again. I work in Regenerative Health & help people reverse chronic disease using diet & holistic interventions. This conversation has me thinking about how I can support my clients on a deeper level. We do truly live in an environment where the environment we’re in doesn’t support individual health & wellbeing. This is why the disease epidemic is so pervasive. I really appreciated this conversation. I especially resonated with Bryan speaking about compassion. As a species we do have to move beyond death and destruction. It’s such a broken and limited paradigm. Thanks so much! I’m going to be sharing this podcast episode with many people!

[@maryallan5266]

I've followed Bryan Johnson's journey in health optimization and longevity across numerous interviews. However, Rich's recent podcast stands out as the most insightful and engaging conversation that I have watched to date. Unlike some interviews that skim the surface, Rich delves deeper. He explores the "why" behind Johnson's motivations, uncovering the internal drive that fuels his pursuit of optimal health. Rich's skillful questioning guides the conversation without imposing his own biases. This allows Bryan to articulate his complex ideas clearly and authentically, providing listeners with a direct window into his perspective. Well done Rich!

[@ivettemercado5416]

It's the best interview ever. Thank you both. An Bryan, thanks for the invitation...I'm in Don't Die 👍

[@Oshe465]

I love the Gratitude of Bryan. really cool. thanks to both of you.

[@davidrobertson3039]

What an incredible conversation. Rich Roll is the greatest interviewer of all time.

[@mrslisajckson]

I wish him the best in his endeavor. Good for him for sharing what he's learning. I look to see what positive findings can come out of his efforts. Please keep us posted.

[@mrslisajckson]

Crap I got to the end and realized - there's "product" 😢 There is always always something for sale.

[@GrishaKrivchenia]

Rich sells products and takes sponsorship. That doesn't mean that Bryan's endeavor is compromised. It also doesn't necessarily mean that Rich is compromised... There are good ways to do business. There are ways to monetize without giving up your integrity. Unless you are a monk or nun, or someone else privileged enough to avoid money entirely, you must engage the field of commerce. The best you can do is navigate that world skillfully. 🙏💪🏼❤️

[@user-rg5nu4uw2i]

A very unique, special and profound conversation! I was already following Bryan on Instagram, but hadn’t had the grasp of his purpose and his overall background and context. I loved this opportunity to know him and his work through the guidance of a Rich Roll’s mindful conversation. It was a very nice, fluid and engaging dialogue to watch. Specially from the point of view of another society statistical “outlier”! I’ve a very nice and diverse group of friends and family, I know the struggles of standing out by having different choices in life. It’s so much easier when I’m in a like-minded group of people, all seeking lifespan extension. Bryan does it on another level, I really appreciate the commitment and effort. Thank you both! Isabel 🇵🇹

[@RealEstateHamilton]

Only came across Bryan about a month ago now, I was definitely intrigued and have listened to a few hours of interviews. THANK YOU Bryan. For not only openly stating and truly trying to nail down the description of where our mindset needs to be, but actually doing what can be done and speaking about the journey as a flawed human like all of us. Thank you Rich Roll for extending your hard earned clout to support such a deserved person. Best podcast I've seen in a while.

[@AlphaHealthYT]

This is the most well spoken and intelligent podcast host I have ever watched 👏🏼

[@DrBaharMD]

Rich-you're a gifted interviewer, thank you for the opportunity to get to know Bryan better. Bryan- as a physician, I admire your dedication to advancing science. This was the first time that I got to know you on a deeper level which transcends your work and your vision. That was endearing and insightful. Thank you for your authenticity and the immense vulnerability you shared.

[@davefav]

Wow! Rich, this is your best podcast to date - and I’m a long term listener. Thank you for the thoughtful questions and respectful treatment of a lot of challenging content. Bryan, you are an inspiration. What you’re attempting is amazing. I’m a 58YO guy who has just quit the corporate world (my own tech services business) to become a musician. I think people think I’m strange and I think I am too 😅. I have been looking at your protocols so I can have a healthy and productive 3rd act. and have already made some changes. My wife is a leader in the yoga. somatics world so she’s supportive. If you ever get to sydney please come say hi. In the meantime I won’t die.

[@stochasticmind]

Bryan should really focus on promulgating the philosophy behind his approach. I never expected that a public figure will also share a lot of my own world view. It is really amazing to see that and gives me even more confidence for the future.

[@beaglebrigade]

This is a fascinating discussion. I have a new respect for Bryan and his motives. Thanks Rich!

[@suziseha369]

Right?!!! Me too

[@kenocontreras]

This is going to be interesting. Edit: I listened to the whole episode, and I'm impressed. This was such a great conversation, and I really enjoyed everything Bryan Johnson shared. I wish him the best and looking forward to seeing his discoveries and achievements there. It's an exciting mission.

[@jeffreyromick2018]

I just met Brian through this awesome podcast. He and I share a trauma. My kids also saved me from suicide. This fact only increased my respect for this man. He is in my opinion the bravest pioneer this planet has seen given his opposition is his fellow man. The very one he hopes to save. I will be following and supporting Brian, his team, his mission and product. Thank you for this very enlightening pod cast. Jeff R

[@kimzahasky7981]

Wow. Rich is the translator for the misunderstood. He did this with Goggins also, helping people see past the rough edges. I’m so glad I watched this until the end (the best part). Amazing interview and such great respect and insights on both sides. I love it when people are willing to truly hear each other’s stories and see the good, even when you don’t agree on everything. Beautiful.

[@Jessica-kk1cz]

He’s controversial? Really? Why? That makes no sense. He has been so generous…

[@arpanine7495]

Agreed

[@knpstrr]

He's basically saying prepare to forget all human customs/norms/religions and unflinchingly obey AI for your own good. It is obviously controversial.

[@Jessica-kk1cz]

@@knpstrr What he is actually saying is believe biology. Arguing with biology is like arguing with gravity - you can do it, it just won’t matter. And he’s saying is that most humans don’t make good health decisions on their own about health. And that is absolutely true (pick any public health metric - diabetes / insulin resistance, malnourishment due to poor nutritional quality of food, lack of sleep, microbiome dysbiosis, mental health issues, lack of exercise, heart disease, increasing cancer in even young patients). People can do what they want, but what he’s giving an alternative based on what knowledge is available so far. But you’re right - people don’t like being confronted with the consequences of their less good decisions, even the ones that evolved to be “norm” . I know I don’t either but hopefully like more people in the future, I would rather someone or something be honest with me. His suggestions are respectful and empathetic- he has had the same struggles others have. Most rich people get the same level of care, he’s just transparent and public when they aren’t. As neurodiverse and unusual as he is, he’s relatable in a he best way he can.

[@BigLadGreen]

If Rich starts looking 10 years younger from now on, we'll know how

[@rachelel-yafi3210]

I was hoping you’d have him on the show! IMO, there is no better interviewer out there for this. Thanks Rich and Bryan! Listening now…

[@luiscaminero9145]

Nowadays, I rarely comment on KZbin but for this one I had to do it. Rich, this is probably one of the best conversations I've seen you have on the podcast. Thank you for such an amazing and informative episode.

[@bobwheeler8101]

I watched several interviews with Bryan and don’t disagree, but this one was the best presentation of a very compelling argument for making a change. I do still enjoy a number of things that are slowly killing me, but trying to improve. Thanks for the help.

[@IsaacSMILE]

I think Bryan is getting better at refining his points. Distilling them down to their simplest form and adding better analogy's.

[@mariahanan9252]

I have been following Bryan since the beginning of his project and absolutely admire his way of thinking, purpose, and generosity. Excellent interview! Thank you both so much! 🙏

[@nextsegment78]

This all fits to the LoA teachings of Abraham Hicks and other major spiritual teachers. What you fight will get stronger, so say yes and create your own inner reality. Others are only a reflection of your inner fears so embrace them, soothe your fears and see your confrontations with others with compassion

[@amethystkurtz5300]

Finally finished this in between 2 jobs, wifing and momming… Bryan Johnson if you are still reading comments THANK YOU for making everything available to the public. It really makes it clear that your primary goal is improving the trajectory of humanity and not just wealth. Our family is excited to try some of the protocol!

[@sne47]

Never heard of Bryan and happy for it! Allowed me to listen with no prejudices that I guess many people have. Bryan, you do you! Rich, you’re amazing at having these conversations with no underlying angle and a genuineness that allows the guest to express themselves without threat. Thankyou both♥️

[@ELTF13]

What a fantastic podcast! Bryan, you have just inspired and showed us that we can create a brighter future for us! Thank you Rich for this truly inspiring podcast.

[@user-yl1kk7dd3t]

Rich Roll - Thank you for the best Bryan Johnson interview I have seen, hands down. I appreciate your openness and willingness to consider his perspective without judgement or imposing your own opinions. You asked very fair and thought provoking questions. While providing Bryan the space to feel free to express himself more deeply than on any other interview I have seen. Thanks again!

[@shashisamundra3462]

Bryan Johnson, you are a gift to humanity and possibly a limitless possibility to go beyond the expected limitations of our living. I have watched your interviews on various podcasts. This is the best. So much to learn and think about while watching you talk. So much negativity about what you do also reminds me about how so much vulgar abuses were thrown at me when I published a book about my own childhood experiences and traumas. The book was published in my native language Punjabi 2 years back but I still haven't recovered from the blames and abuses. Your attitude about taking the criticism so lightly is giving me strength to get over it. Thank you so much !! And thanks to Rich Roll for having this brilliant podcast.

[@coreylizette]

I have probably watched every Bryan Johnson interview and this is undoubtedly the best one I have seen. I appreciated the depths you were able to reach. I now think a lot about AI and also believe that we have already lost the agency that is so often collectively assumed. As Mo Gawdat puts it, we will be equivalent to the intelligence of a fly in comparison to AI by 2049. It is scary to step into the unknown but it is waste of time to agonize about it. The only chance we have is to align our values with a greater good that goes beyond ourselves. I am grateful for the call to higher consciousness that Bryan exemplifies. It truly gives me hope and has empowered me to make meaningful change in my own life.

[@brookie_cuqui]

Bryan seems like a total sweetheart! Takes a lot of fortitude and vulnerability to be him, I'm guessing. Compassion and love for all of existence. What a power pair in this conversation. Thanks to both of you.

[@robynhope219]

He's not a sweetheart...he is egocentric, money obsessed, and power hungry.

[@BendeMark]

When I turned vegan some 8 years ago, my mission was to live long enough, with enough energy and vigour to see through my son’s growth. My tune changed slightly with the acknowledgment that animals needed to be fought for and protected. I’m now adding a new dimension: Do not die! Bryan is a fascinating individual, I’m inspired to try out The Blueprint.

[@luismorales7545]

Bryan, when you discussed your religious upbringing, and how that brought you to distrust all authority, I I could’ve completed your sentences for a few minutes of this podcast. I share a similar experience. Glad you turned that into a quest for facts-based knowledge and a genuine desire to solve humanity’s greatest unresolved problem. I will be following your journey. I hope you succeed!!

[@justchilling704]

He was raised in a cult, not religion, and religions have factual information, everyone is a religious it’s a fact including you right now.

[@Merve-pq4nd]

One of the best, the most enlightening and the most admirable conversations I recently have listened to. Thanks a lot!

[@visualizeflow8450]

This is the longest interview I have watched without taking a break. As a person experiences a spiritual awakening and observes the destruction behavior of the mind and ego. We as a human race and spiritual beings can benefit from A.I taking away menial worries about health to focus on high-level decision-making. There are plenty of studies showing that reducing the amount of small meaningless decisions we make daily ( such as what to eat, and what to wear) can increase our flow state to access higher states of consciousness. A.I isn't taking away what it means to be human, instead, it enhances the human experience. If we choose to live with love and compassion we can manifest A.I that will reflect our qualities to us. We can manifest the optimal timeline of humanity by our faith. I would love to sign up for the blueprint lifestyle and spend my extra time in contemplation and meditation while letting A.I make the small decisions of my daily routine.

[@1134mijo]

Don’t think so …. Look at what I-phones have done to people’s lives. AI will be created for control and harm to humanity as a whole Relationships will definitely suffer . Wake up

[@shalashardil530]

Stated perfectly. Thank you for your profound analysis of the fundamental question of humanity's quest for actualization. I think we are mostly incapable of living without being in bondage with our egos. I hope he wakes us up from the illusions and dogma of history and culture. I'm hopeful!

[@thendricks2k]

Bryan, please keep going on your journey. I personally love where you are heading and “If you build it, WE will join.”

[@tj3954]

The interview is very interesting. Rich Roll did an amazing job. I will give credit to Mr. Johnson for the comments he made about his parents and trying to keep them from dying. You can see by his expression the love and care he has for them.

[@veritasvincit5347]

Like the interviewer, I used to dismiss Bryan's initiatives as massive cash grabs, but having listened to him a bunch of times, I now think he is right!

[@milanpintar]

nothing at all wrong with him! He’s the normal one

[@RobinCordovaResilient]

I thought this interview was fantastic and awe inspiring. It was my first introduction to Bryan and I'm already a huge fan and excited to learn more about his blueprint. Like many have said, Rich is a genius interviewer that held and guided the container for the level of depth of the interview. Hang in there Bryan, I believe there will be someone special for you that is a match in relationship. Thank you both for this "brain breaking" interview that was an emotional engaging experience.

[@amygrams520]

This has to be one of the most insightful, thought-provoking podcasts I've ever listened to. I'm so impressed by how much thought, research and care Bryan has put into his blueprint protocol and by his vulnerability and honesty. I eat a whole food, plant-based diet, don't drink alcohol or caffeine and go to bed every night at 8:30pm. Because of this, I find it's so hard to socialize or even attend work-related functions. I have to eat in advance and constantly explain why I'm not eating. People think I'm weird or have an eating disorder. I can't imagine how difficult it is for Bryan to stick to this lifestyle and I'm grateful for the sacrifice this entails. I hope he inspires the world to follow his lead

[@PrometheusDaVinci]

This was an absolute smashingly good interview. Thank you Rich and Bryan for this deep dive in to our cultural and mental position and how far we could possible take it. Im down for a 10am dinner too ❤

[@suzanneolson1628]

Wow, both of you were humble, curious and vulnerable. I’ve been following Bryan’s journey for about a year and felt his emotional and generous connection to Project Blueprint. What a privilege to listen to your dialogue, and I definitely want an invite to that dinner!

[@Leadbellie]

I love ❤️ all of Rich’s interviews BUT this was extraordinary. Best interview ever. Their chemistry made Bryan’s mind completely comprehensive and want to follow him!!! Great job!!!!

[@nickvieru8969]

Truly the most amazing podcast with Bryan that he has ever been on. It went on so many deep levels that other interviewers simply don't go that it is hard to describe the rollercoaster of emotions I felt watching it. And, surprisingly, I think Bryan's message was the clearest in this interview. I can't pin point the exact reason but it could have been the genuineness of these 2 spectacular human beings brought into a beautiful connection and creating this conversation that was more down the line of a psychedelic experience rather than a simple conversation.

[@kamalalove6083]

This is really, really exciting! Thank you for being an innovator and for sharing your experiments publicly. It’s all so fascinating. I almost dismissed this episode and I’m so glad I didn’t. ❤️

[@brennanleyen]

I used to think BJ was weird and didn’t think much else of him. My mind warmed up to him on a previous interview, I think it was Diary of a CEO. But THIS podcast shows somewhat of how his philosophy formed. Of course Rich Roll is the only interviewer who could elucidate this information from Mr. Johnson. I’m SO excited about this idea of hacking our physiology and our bio-world to include sustainable energy, environmental science, health and wellbeing. I can see his take on history and technology and I am tickled by DONT DIE. Wow, I would like to try assisted democratic biology. And I think God, Allah, the cosmos is bringing this information to us in the form of idea and consciousness. I love the technical holistic biological physiological approach to don’t die and don’t kill. Don’t kill each other, don’t kill our planet, don’t act in destructive ways. ✌️ Hey , if you need a similar aged female to blueprint- I will do it! Thank you for your innovative, rigorous evolution of our species.

[@williamkelly1519]

We will all get old and we all will die. Some age slower some faster. Rich is a great interviewer. I'm a follower of Buddhism for many years now. No judgement here just let him go on this path until he can't.

[@SueMaha21]

Brian is truly an amazing human being. He is willing to do the work that no one out there is willing to do to improve the life of humanity. I will continue following his progress and continue to integrate his protocols, at least the ones I can afford , into my life. Thank you Brian for improving the quality of my life.

[@lightbodyvehicle]

So glad I watched this. Great conversation. I've been plant based since 1979, I'm female, I raised 2 kids, plant based. Both are still plant based. The longer you are strictly plant based, the more universally aware you become. The more compassionate you become. The more of "oneness" you become. Becoming plant based is the biggest solution to the biggest problems we face as a species. I will look into this protocol and find ways to add to my health and longevity. Looking forward to it. Thanks for all your hard work.

[@77maturin]

At about an hour in I got a real sense of the depth of the thinking behind this system, and behind Brian himself. This isn't just about health and longevity - this is about elevating ourselves to being the best versions of humans we can be. That he calls for what is currently culturually highly counter-intuitive - to abdicate some of our liberty, our responsibility - makes this some seriously unique thinking, especially in Western orthodox philosophy. I am simultaneously fascinated and inspired by this thinking. This could be the revolution we need - based on the acceptance that we are not the best that we can be, that we can be better, and that being better is predicated on the humble admission we would do better to outsource a good deal of our thinking and strategising to something that already is, on many measures, far better at it than we are. I can't wait to see the Earth Blueprint - not to mention the really tough one, the Humanity Blueprint. Can we align? All 8 billion of us? Can we all share the same priorities? Deeply interesting question.

[@1134mijo]

You must talking about Christianity ?

[@77maturin]

@@1134mijo I am most assuredly NOT talking about Christianity - or indeed, any religion. I take your point about outsourcing and abdicating liberty in the name of something greater - but I'm also talking about a system (Brian's) which has actual, real-world effects. Prayer and supplication, so far as I know, have no such effect.

[@conorpaulpurcell3403]

This guy has a clear understanding that many people now and into the future will be focussing on their health and longevity big time - in a new kind of way. People will certainly look back at our time today and disapprove of how many of us casually destroyed our bodies

[@natalyabonilla8312]

Thank you both for this piece. Thank you Bryan for sharing the information. I have been incorporating the diet for the past month, and I had been eating healthy before, but this new diet has made me feel "the clarity of mind" and taken my life experience up a notch. I am very grateful. You are a beautiful person, and its a joy to watch you, and hear your thoughts and ideas.

[@Anonymous.User.0419]

Imagine Bryan Johnson was an academic, using grants from tax money to do the research, publishing the results in a non-public access journal (i.e., $$$ for subscription), and founding a company with the goal of being acquired by pharma ($$$$$$) - he is none of this. I was judgemental about him boefore, but after giving it a thought, I like and respect him.

[@jarnohealth]

This was so inspiring!

[@gameimprovements4347]

He looks way more youthful..... I believe it's working. Good stuff Mr. Johnson

[@sirij8784]

im the same age as him and look 10 years younger than him at least. He def does more than me but prob on my side genetics matter way more than my daily routine even though I have a healthy life

[@gameimprovements4347]

@@sirij8784 I agree with everything you say.. you prob have the genetics most don't

[@sirij8784]

@@gameimprovements4347 most def. Its something like that just ran in my family who've all lived to they were 100+. I hated it as a kid when I looked like a child in high school/college but dont mind it so much now.

[@micheleclarke6118]

Thoroughly incredible interview. Very interesting, and Rich Roll, amazing job. Bryan! Let's not die! I'm in!

[@alysonwong818]

YUSSSSS let’s goooo - when I watch Rich’s work and then have been following Bryan’s work and then they combine!!! Boom!!

[@Beare.]

I’m rooting for this guy. Amazing Philosophical Perspective. Such an encouraging and interesting conversation. Highly enjoyable. Thanks to everyone involved in the production of this podcast. 🙏🏼✨

[@JordanPike]

I didn't listen to this right away because I've listened to 10 other podcasts with Brian on them. By far, this is the best interview I've seen with him so far. Rich, you are a treasure. What Brian is doing truly is fascinating.

[@ellenlewis3562]

Rich, thank you for introducing me to Bryan Johnson. It was a very interesting conversation and I appreciate how well you are prepared for your guests. It is a tragedy that the work Bryan in doing is being exposed to so much criticism, I think it is interesting and very valuable. I enjoy you making your guests feel heard and understood in a world that wants to exploit everyone for their own gain, this podcast was enjoyable to listen to. Good luck Bryan! I am on the list for some olive oil. Also, reading more comments has somewhat restored my faith in humanity. There are so many people that love Rich Roll's compassion, love, and respect for others that comes across in his interviews. Proof that I am not the only one out there that wants to watch nice people be nice to eachother. TV shows get top ratings when they are outrageous and evil, they are not for me. I want to see good things happen to good people.

[@alexgonzalezbartos]

wow. looking forward to this one :) Thanks for it