TOOLS TO OPTIMIZE YOUR HEALTH, PREVENT DISEASE & LIVE LONGER w/ PETER ATTIA | Rich Roll Podcast

Peter Attia, MD shares the science of healthspan extension, the importance of emotional health, and his new book 'Outlive: The Science & Art of Longevity.' To read more about Dr. Attia and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll743
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:19 - What happen to Peter's voice, workaholism, aging + mortality
00:07:52 - How Peter got interested in studying longevity
00:11:14 - On The Four Horsemen of Death, Healthspan, + Early Intervention
00:23:57 - The State of Healthspan Science, Moonshots + Peter’s Perspective On It
00:33:37 - On Preventative Care, The State of the health care systems + health insurance
00:38:05 - Ad Break
00:39:57 - How “The Four Horsemen” Diseases Overlap + A Metabolic Health Continuum
00:43:33 - The importance of Exercise, Nutrition, + Sleep
00:45:27 - On Diabetes science and waiting too long to diagnose and treat
00:48:49 - On CGM’s, Blood Glucose levels + Affect on all-cause mortality
00:53:05 - Peter’s 4 tactics: Exercise, nutrition, sleep + pharmacology
00:54:58 - On how the book almost didn’t get completed + his emotional state at the time
01:05:55 - Peter’s time in a trauma treatment center
01:11:06 - Peter’s Nervous Breakdown in 2019
01:13:20 - Peter’s rock bottom in 2020
01:20:46 - Peter’s Healing
01:30:01 - Peter’s Trauma Work + Insight into the ways trauma was affecting his family
01:36:30 - On Addiction + What Unites People
01:43:13 - On Medicine 3.0 Changes People should do For Emotional Health
01:50:57 - Emotional Health Insights
01:55:59 - Emotional Health in Parenting
02:01:39 - Exercise vs Nutrition
02:03:28 - Nutrition Deep Dive: Alcohol, Protein, Saturated Fats
02:20:09 - On Different Trend Diets + Carnivore diet
02:25:30 - Primer on Cholesterol + Relation to Heart Disease
02:27:42 - Other heart health + neurodegenerative tests people should request
02:35:33 - Medicine 2.0 Vs Medicine 3.0 in regards to Alzheimer’s Disease
02:39:13 - On Grip Strength + Why that matters
02:43:41 - On Healthy Addictions + What “god” are we serving + holding things loosely
02:50:36 - On Peter’s Spirituality + Accepting Impermanence
02:55:35 - Wrapping Up
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[@karenworthington820]

I wish that my son could have heard this and received the help that he needed. His self hatred was horrible. He took his life May, 2023. I applaud your vulnerability! This will truly help so many.

[@teresamoncho1553]

So sorry for your loss. Much love sent to you and your family

[@karenworthington820]

@@teresamoncho1553 Thank you so much!

[@gh8263]

I am so sorry for your loss. I am so sorry that your beautiful boy suffered so

[@carolginsberg662]

@karenworthington~I’m so sorry for your loss.

[@karenworthington820]

@@carolginsberg662 Thank you so much... it's heartbreaking.

[@jamesburris4]

I discovered Rich Roll early on in his Podcast career. Rich has grown into one of the best interviewers in the industry. I feel smarter, motivated, and more empathetic after listening to him. Someone once said that people come in and out of your life, some add to your life and others subtract, Rich has definitely added to mine and I’m a better person for it.

[@CodieOnline]

2:47:43 “Do the best you can but don’t do so much more that you ruin this experience of living” 🤯 I think this just changed/saved my life…

[@bigbunny3868]

Deep respect for *Mrs.* Attia. I'd be very interested to hear her perspective and story. She, and others like her, who stand by their significant others as they work through their struggles, while typically juggling parenting responsibilities and day to day life - I'd like to know what anchored her? How did she have the strength to kick him out, then later have the empathy and openness to let him back in? How did she keep herself grounded and steady? And where does that conviction and strength come from and how to foster it?

[@takyrica]

What a great wondering. It is really hard to juggle life with a partner who struggles. I rarely see comments acknowledging the partner.

[@redbull9554]

As a man who caused my wife a lot of grief before I began to understand why I acted the way I did for so many years I can only say thank goodness for a significant other who tolerated those of us who have personal issues to work through. Much like Peter I have a lot to make up for.

[@sunshinepadawan]

😊😊a😊q

[@eseogheneebojie4270]

I totally agree, as I listened all I could think of was how did she do it, I would really love to know

[@maryannsegal2807]

What an excellent comment and questions! Wish I'd thought of that.

[@michaelpugh609]

As a veteran that suffers from depression, I can't think of anyone that has helped me understand health and longevity more than Dr. Attia. How blessed we are to have doctors like this.

[@orion9k]

Its funny how people can be rolemodels for healthy lifestyle while not living a healthy life them selves.

[@contentconsumer4145]

@@orion9k I think this is far too harsh of a criticism and standard. I understand holding people accountable of doing what they preach, but Peter is all that as well. Life, it isn't so simple. It's so difficult to do all this, it's challenging to balance your health and emotions. So a person who's genuinely interested in the betterment of his health, other's health, and for someone who's willing to grow and learn, I'm absolutely putting my money on Peter of all people.

[@orion9k]

@@contentconsumer4145 I would not put my money on him, he seems like he has fallen to the victim mentality, going into trauma states of mind etc. he is slowly deteriorating through a dangerous ideology.

[@contentconsumer4145]

@@orion9k An who even are you to him. Lol. we're all victims my guy, idk what to tell you if that hasn't occurred to you yet. Peter has just managed to filter out when he actually is the victim vs where he is responsible. That's a mega necessary skill for life in general.

[@orion9k]

@@contentconsumer4145 Keep telling yourself that.

[@michaelkossivas]

Beautiful. For many years Peter was so neurotic and obsessed with optimizing performance and longevity, yet neglecting emotional health. I'm glad it's his priority now, as it should be for all of us. Longevity, without well-being is pointless. Finally he gets it.

[@kathleenmay3530]

I noticed the same thing🎉

[@thomastorre8352]

It's a side effect of brilliance.

[@kylebrett845]

😅 1:32:34

[@javierlong1228]

"Family pathology rolls from generation to generation like a fire in the woods taking down everything in it's path until one person in one generation has the courage to turn and face the flames. That person brings peace to his ancestors and spares the children that follow." -Terry Real Excellent work Rich. Thank you for your service.

[@bellakrinkle9381]

Very few know or understand this reality. I can assure you that it is next to impossible to get the next generation moving in the right direction; everyone believes that they can take care of themselves properly.It's greater than tragic. Sadly, people need to find themselves, because they will not believe anyone other than themselves. People need to be open and honest as parents, as children, as partners. How many people can truly communicate feelings and emotions? Can you? Dr. Attia is in the heart of his healing; he's a great doctor - listening to his wisdom on heath, finally allows me to sleep through the night, using the supplements he recommends. Driven people discover eventually, and learn, that they need a clone to relax and live a "normal" life. I know exactly how he suffers; healing requires enormous strength. Is this why most cannot confront themselves?

[@j.pgoodwin9020]

@@bellakrinkle9381 As the Jesuit's say. Give me the child until 10 years of age and I will show you the man. Perception, comprehension, beliefs , ethics and morals are all programmed in the child by their environment and those they depend on. Even in the womb they are aware of anger and violence and love and caring and music etc even if they have no words or understanding they absorb the emotions that will shape them for life. as part of their reality. The origin of the generational family or tribal curse

[@ewafoley7438]

❤

[@lauraw.7008]

Mega-corporation’s financial incentives to keep people eating their unhealthy foods for corporate profit perhaps? 20:09

[@lauraw.7008]

It isn’t only the healthcare monolith; there’s the food systems. Wrecking the soil, poisoning air & water, over-processing the harvest….

[@thefunctionaloncologist7811]

Depression and burnout in men is often reflected in overworking, obsession with sports or gaming… this sharing of a personal journey is an important gift to the world. Thank you, Dr. Attia and Rich.

[@Mel-dp5jn]

This is one of the best podcast episodes I’ve ever listened to. Rich does such an amazing job of interviewing Peter and Peters vulnerability is inspiring!

[@lisetteem588]

really? he cant even speak in a flowing manner... I am trying to wrestle with finding compassion for him.... how he's a father and husband........

[@meghan42]

@@lisetteem588 A halting maner is okay too. Okay for you too. And for all of us.

[@chadnelson9013]

​@@lisetteem588 😮

[@lisetteem588]

@@meghan42 yes love, I just found it odd the person said it was one of the best...it wasnt just the delivery it was the content. However, it's my job to find the love. x

[@tosca...]

@@lisetteem588 I kind of feel the same. His honesty at least is something, but to have gone for so long with so little insight was somewhat bizarre. And for what? To have a physiological balance between nutrition, sleep and exercise? That was a high price to pay for his long term emotional disfunction. And yet, I must say, it was compulsive, thought provoking listening, with Rich seeming to manage a large toxic creature with amazing compssion. I was routinely beaten by my mother as a child, so I have sympathy for anyone who has to work through that as an adult. And frankly it is bloody complicated, as I have put my own life on hold for two years to care for that abusive mother in her rapidly declining old age. This guy's obsession with fame for something nearly destroyed his life. And, his wife Esther deserves a medal!

[@Jessica-kk1cz]

Congratulations to Peter Attia for taking the active steps to self-learning, recognition, and the learning of coping skills to recovery, and sharing his story to help others. And Rich Roll, of all people, is the perfect advocate- insightful, empathetic, articulate, and supportive.

[@SherryEllesson]

Gentlemen, your willingness to dredge deeply and bring hidden layers of the unwanted and unacknowledged into the light bespeaks levels of courage I admire more than words can describe. Thank you both, on this first day of Spring, 2023.

[@rosyloveslearning3013]

Thank you. ❤

[@meghan42]

And here we are. it's lovely. Even if we don't have what we think we want.

[@anne-marieh6128]

Well said! Thank you!

[@bullonabike]

Peter does a fantastic job at meeting us on a human level. He's another great inspiration.

[@jdtransformation]

I’ve followed Peter for years… SO happy to hear *this* side of his personal (mental/emotional) struggles&growth. Thank you BOTH for the work here to get a conversation out that needs spoken - and is so hard to find.

[@fingersm]

Followed him way before most. He became "unbearable " for over 2-3yrs jmho

[@Cloudnine2024]

Very very relatable. I'm currently experiencing the same mental collapse after YEARS of being a productive overachiever that has neglected emotional development. This has caused a serious personality "condition" for me. Which has giving me great success, and has pulled me out of a bad childhood, but the cracks are showing. My old mental software is no longer serving me and needs a major update for my new reality. As Peter said: "What got you here, won't get you there." I'm only seeing this now. Living for the Ego while neglecting the Self is a terrible tradeoff that WILL come back to hunt you. Completely understand the mindset of, "but will I still be good enough if I lose this version of me?" Respect to Peter for sharing. I have already preorder his book on Audible.

[@saratonnan]

Such a moving conversation. Thank you, Dr. Attia, for your willingness to be so open & honest about your experiences & your path to wellness. So many of us have gone through or are going through similar struggles. This conversation and your book are going to help countless people. ❤❤❤

[@mareezy]

Rich is soooooo good at interviewing his guests

[@millymilly8097]

Indeed! I was thinking the same and he gets better and better!

[@littleredhencsa8756]

Absolutely a masterful interviewer! I always feel so enlightened after every interview!

[@RCRB444]

Fact.

[@bluewaters3100]

I woke up at 2.30am with this podcasrt playing in my ear. It was so phenomenal that I have stayed up to finish it. I wish Peter knew how sharing his story is going to impact many people's lives and even affect generations of families . Thank you Peter for doing this podcast with Rich. I am 70, still healthy, but definitely have slowed down due to some past injuries. To me chronic pain has been my bugga boo to deal with as I age. Perhaps you can talk about this in a future podcast. It is a real issue for many aging seniors. In order to exercise and avoid osteoporosis I need to be able to move and exercise. This requires pain meds which doctors do not like to prescribe. I hope you do a podcast about this subject sometime in the future. It is a real component of aging for many of us. You cannot imagine how much knowledge I have had to learn and put into practice to be able to stay active yet there are many things I can no longer do .

[@nessiemupfeki]

Interesting post you posted. So you used to exera lot growing up but can't do it anymore?

[@deejakes1655]

Try turmeric for joint pain, it's very helpful. Look up 'golden milk' recipe. 💗

[@patriciaholbert7528]

At 72 I understand. Now add a 2 year grandson that I have adopted. He keeps me running most of the time and so far I’m blessed with good health. But I need all the info that these amazing podcasts offer.

[@terrigirl]

I would love that topic as well. I live with and take care of my 83 yr old mom. She has so many issues yet gets through the pain daily. I don’t want to be 83 if it’s gonna be that way. The Silent Generation are struggling- it’s a sad thing.

[@jakemelinko]

Sauna blanket, red light therapy and vibration plate. Chair yoga online. I'd even try one of those abdominal contraction belts

[@Joseph1NJ]

I'm envious these people have access to such high quality emotional healthcare. I know of a few that could benefit from it if given the chance. Thing is, they're never getting it. Not in the 4.75 minutes in their GP's office. Not even if they seek it themselves. Once again, privilege=access.

[@jennym268]

so refreshing to have a doctor be so honest

[@michellegill2359]

I am not even through this podcast yet, but the sharing and the raw honesty is what truly helps people relate. Thank you both. Mental health issues are real for everyone and no amount of success or money makes you immune to their grasp.

[@kathyowen3847]

I agree with you. And, I’m disheartened by some of the earlier comments that focus on superficialities like whether Peter’s speech flowed and the judgmental attitude. Those kinds of comments are exactly why people are reluctant to expose their faults. Grateful that Peter has done so. Rich handled it all beautifully.

[@jameslefleur1970]

His heart is in the right place and I appreciate that.

[@drmarkrieke]

Suggest u watch at faster speeds 1.25 or 1.5…

[@PrometheusMonk]

So much love to Peter and Rich! I'm in recovery myself. We're all suffering in one form or another and we have to be honest and ask for help.

[@jakemasters4361]

I've listened to Peter off and on for years and while he doesn't strike me as dishonest, I've found a lot of the information he puts out to be a little confusing, and in conflict with what many others say. It seems he's come around to a more moderate place regarding diet, but I find his ambivalence towards polyunsaturated fats a bit strange, as pretty much everyone I've heard talk about lipids, other than the hardcore carnivore people, seem to agree that they're remarkably beneficial especially in place of saturated fats, more so than monounsaturated fats and even fibrous carbs by some accounts. Simon Hill talks to Tom Dayspring about this in a recent Proof episode. Anecdotally, adding more nuts, seeds, avocado, and a couple weekly servings of salmon to my previously low fat diet helped drop my LDL a further 25 points, and it was already in normal range. I also disagree completely that statins are a must in order to achieve a healthy lipid profile. It seems strange to me to put so much emphasis on exercise while downplaying the role of nutrition to the point you're willing to just medicate away the negative side effects without pushing back and offering some education. Also, as someone who used to powerlift, even at my most meathead-y, I never could have eaten my bodyweight in protein and not felt like a bloated mess. That seems insane to me. I think Rich was correct. The issue with loss of lean mass isn't because, in a country where there's a burger joint on every corner, people are protein deficient. It's a lack of activity, and specifically strength-building activity.

[@ginamarie5575]

Love this man’s honesty. Great chat . Thx

[@davegrahamdj]

Ive lost my health, job, home, car, wife left me, declared myself homeless and see my kids every second weekend. My story is not unique - Ones experience of suffering is relevant to that inidvidual. Rock bottom for someone is luxury and to others its hell. Take someone with terminal illness they would look at my life and tell me to count my blessing im still here

[@marknolan2799]

That was beautifully profound and heartfelt. As a regular consumer of both of these gentlemen's podcasts, I was deeply moved by how open and honest Mr. Attia was about his struggles. As someone who suffers from trauma, I found his journey both inspiring and illuminating. To think that someone who has achieved so much in such a wide range of pursuits, has an amazing life and friends, and has the guts to talk about his shortcomings is mind blowing. This could help so many men struggling with their own issues to gain the courage to seek help. I have nothing but the utmost respect for both of you.

[@carolginsberg662]

@marknolan~ Beautifully said!

[@karenmickle9738]

Can't even adequately express how much I enjoyed hearing Rich and Peter visit. I've been a fan of both for quite a while now and after hearing them bare their souls in this interview I've adding them to my daily prayer list. You are both SO precious. God bless each of you as you pursue truth in your lives.

[@ClassicLitCat]

Attia’s willingness to share was so powerful within his vulnerability. Thank you for this podcast. ❤ This will change lives.

[@user-jc8py7dw7r]

Dr Attia is simply extraordinary. I wonder if he knows much he’s helped others by confessing to his dark night of the soul. I had my own terrible time a year ago due to circumstances I myself created, along with a huge mess of things outside of my control. Now I’m trying to understand my life by seeking out the stories of others who have also had to deal with similar issues. I’m doing better now. I lost over 60 lbs and do yoga and other types of workouts for an hour every day. I’ve been following Dr Attia’s podcast and appearances on KZbin for some time and have such respect for him. He’s made my life infinitely better.

[@jorgeromera3861]

What an enthralling and honest episode. Hats off to these two gentlemen.

[@cebukid70]

Rich Roll is a truly great ambassador for Vegans in the sense that he's willing to listen to, and have a discussion with someone like Peter Attia who obviously has a different diet/lifestyle philosophy.

[@Torres-tw3ic]

it's rare to see a vegan that is not crazy, right? lol

[@stx7389]

​@@Torres-tw3icyeah people rhat care for tortured animals are crazy right?

[@duraace2053]

Outstanding interview. I am a huge Attia fan, but was not surprised about his story. The way he just takes everything to the extreme, comes through in his interviews and podcast.

[@desertself]

Peter, I have followed your work for about seven years. Listening to your story of "losing it" was so powerful. Thank you for ALL you do - your work as a doc, your honesty sharing about yourself now. How many of us live wasting our lives trying when we just need to be and accept the beauty of life. Thank you.

[@MB-dp1rj]

Powerful and healing conversation...gratitude and respect to both gentlemen.

[@kair7369]

Well, I wish my comments would be unique, but after reading a handful of the existing comments, I can only acknowledge what others have already said much more eloquently than I could. Once again Rich pulls off another deep and moving conversation. Dr. Attia deserves a LOT of credit here for opening up like this. I'm sure that must have been difficult, but end result is I'm sure it will likely benefit thousands of people. He's a class act for sure. This is another "must listen to multiple times" episode of the RRP.

[@Healthify360]

This was a powerful podcast. I acknowledge both of you for your vulnerability to focus this conversation on your mental and emotional health. This is what inspires and gives others permission to seek help for themselves. I spent 6 years doing this type of work and I am now a pretty well ground 60+ year old. The pain of doing this type of work is worth it.

[@jabon112]

This will in fact be your legacy. Showing that you are just like the rest of us and being so transparent. Thank you.

[@2xSundays]

As I listen to his humility and openness I just feel a swell of happiness for him and gratitude to him. Peters words of his dark moments, healing and insights are so beautiful and important. Thank you both so much! ☺️

[@Michael-4]

I can't believe Peter was so screwed up. I don't know whether it's wrong to see it this way, but it makes me feel better about myself. I haven't got his drive or intellect, but I am kind to myself, resilient and happy.

[@eugenemorrison2720]

Two of my favorite men I've never met. Great conversation, guys.

[@radessvk4441]

Absolutely crazy how much depths this one has.this one of those that you can come back on and still find things you didn’t catch first time…

[@johnturner7009]

Awesome conversation, thank you so much Rich and Dr. Attia. Very informative and moving to see 2 guys seeing so open and vulnerable - very brave. I’m probably a good 10 years older than both of you and perhaps too far behind the curve to catch up, but this convo has inspired me to at least try. Again, thank you.

[@thespiritualninja7339]

So impressed with Peter’s vulnerability and humility, this was quite captivating!! God is my God but I still have to keep myself in check to make sure my quests for health and beauty don’t become so, but it is true that we are the “lucky” ones to worship the living God of the universe, however he will receive us all…just come like a child, as Jesus encouraged!❤❤❤

[@elliekusa65]

I stopped listening to Peter Attia’s podcast for awhile because he seemed quite OCD about his diet and exercise and it seemed a bit on the unhealthy side. I now understand that CONTROL over every part of his exercise, diet (life choices) etc is likely trauma-based. I appreciate that he shared his trauma even though it was uncomfortable for him. ❤️❤️❤️

[@borisleoro8943]

He needs psychedelics lol

[@leafhound3605]

OCD is not an adjective. It's a debilitating mental illness. It's ranked number 7 of most debilitating conditions by the world health organization. That's not number 7 just amongst mental illnesses. That ranking is placed with everything, including cancer.

[@elliekusa65]

@@leafhound3605 Thank you for your comment. I am sorry if my comment was offensive with my use of OCD as an adjective. Personally I am working on my own food and workout issues and trying to find a healthy balance. I do not suffer with OCD but I have family members and friends who do so I am empathetic and see the effects of the illness on their quality of life. For me, Peter’s approach was not healthy for me so I stopped listening to him for awhile. This episode helped me understand more about the possible origins of his focus and what I PERCEIVED to be unhealthy.

[@senseofwonder4734]

I love this conversation so much! Having watched this and also the Huberman lab podcast, I must say I am by far more moved by Attias energy while in the presence of Rich Roll. Roll has a generosity of spirit and unparalleled ability to bring out the best in people.

[@karendallas8377]

So dang good you guys. I'm also an ex-work-addict physician who's gone thru my own healing journey so I absolutely receive all of this. Thanks for putting it out there. ❤

[@ejohnson4321]

PETER ATTIA shows what a remarkable person he is, all that in addition to being a brilliant scientist. Peter, you are loved by so many who are grateful for your dedication to the bettering of life.

[@soultrekotc6635]

Wow. Such courage to share your shadow self. We all have them to varying degrees but few of us have the courage to share like this. You will give many people hope that we can push through our shadow selves. It’s so hard to love ourselves but it’s key to everything. Healing takes a lifetime. Keep going for you and your family and as an example for all of us ❤️

[@bethaustin1884]

The most important interview I’ve seen/heard of Attia.. BRAVO to both of you.

[@chrishayes8012]

Peter Attia is part of the system. Likely better to get your diet advice from Rich Roll.

[@Joseph1NJ]

Once again, we're never going to put a dent into healthspans when the primary thing that stands between you and the healthcare you need is money. Even when you filter out risk factors like smoking, poor diet, exercise and stress, the single largest limiting factor remains income. Income limits not just like access to treatment, but proactive testing, and even things like nutritional education.

[@ValerieBloomberg]

My two favorite internet men....together in conversation...how ORGASMIC! It's a great freakin day!

[@thomasgrimm1664]

Never met Peter, but from all the content he's been putting out, I guarantee I won't forget him for years and years to come. Talk about a legacy...

[@BigJack512]

This kind of authenticity and vulnerability truly is a service to humanity. At least it is to this human.

[@rarebird_82]

Beautiful to hear a man describe exactly what I felt having my first child, I thought only women experienced this. Before my first son was born, I could not imagine loving anyone/thing as much as my husband who was my world at the time, I was told that would change, but I just could not believe or imagine it. That was until the nurse placed this bundle in my arms and he opened his eyes, he had my eyes - I was hit by what felt like a cosmic freight train of pure authentic love for the first time in my life, this was on a scale I was totally unprepared for and overwhelmed by, and my husband who was my life, took an instant back seat. But what Dr Attia said about mortality is what really resonated with me, the second I became a parent there was a generational shift in me, I instantly felt old, and acutely aware of my own mortality - at 24! I obsessed over my childs mortality too, and his safety, I lay awake every night thinking of all the harms that could befall him and how to avoid it, I also became ultra paranoid about my own health, convinced I was going to die. I find the link between new parenting and mortality fascinating, I think its that instinctive drive in us to stay alive so we can protect, nurture and raise the next generation. I would love to see a study on the actual mechanism i.e the psychological and physical effects of childbirth that turn fearless women like me into quivering, overprotective wrecks who think everything is a threat and become convinced they or their child is about to die at any moment. Is it a survival response or a form of neurosis? All I know is by the time I had my third child the fear had diluted somewhat, I was only a third as neurotic about the protection of each child, rather than pouring all my overprotective neuroticism into 1 child, it became divided by 3. Also the more children you have the more confident you become in your ability to keep these little people alive, safe and well. But that first child...WOW, life changing, mind changing, world changing. I never worried about dying until I had something worth living for ❤️

[@1theaterofdreams]

Profound. Intellectual. Raw. Authentic. Thank you @richroll and thank you Peter. Peter’s comment near the end on Insignificance resonates deeply. Rich you are a gift to humanity.

[@henrynovell8752]

I’ve seen nearly all of your vlog episodes Rich and Peter, I feel like I know you both quite well, this one is incredible. You are both human and listening to what you share here elevated my well being immensely. Thank you.

[@HeibesHealth]

It’s going to be a Peter Attia day! Dr. Huberman is also dropping a new podcast with him today.

[@fingersm]

They bioth stink

[@MCR1565]

Two of the best! I’m impressed with RR now. I appreciate the time and the thought behind what he does.💖

[@rachelb7228]

This is amazing. This is the only podcast episode that anyone who needs the motivation to be a healthier and better person, should watch.

[@suefonder7468]

Peter thankyou for telling about your rock bottom . It helps me to understand my dad. He was in a residential program and he said He felt that if any body really knew he they couldn't love him. He was old before he got help and it made such a difference. I'm glad you got help.

[@Tarawater18]

“…. from generation to generation like a fire in the woods taking down everything and it’s takes one person in one generation has the courage to turn and face the flames that person bring peace to his ancestors and spares the children that follow this idea….” Bingo! This is me. This is my role. This whole idea came to me in a meditation and was loud and clear. Thank you for this incredible interview and validation. ✌️

[@bonnie3937]

I had great respect for Dr. Attia before this podcast. Now I respect him more for allowing himself to be vulnerable. I feel his sharing his experience will help many people.

[@celienrivera1585]

He sounds like a Robot who realized he’s human ….thanks for sharing his story n thoughts on our amazing mind n body Rich .

[@Robbinsoul_Cruzzo]

Thank you for being you Peter!! Much respect for opening up and having this conversation!!

[@zuzanakyselova1561]

I love Peter even more after being so open and vulnerable!

[@MDZac2024]

Peter is just an incredible human being.

[@TherapyGymnastics]

Incredible courage to share vulnerability and personal experience. Thank you Peter and Rich for in-depth emotional sharing. The huge takeaway is neuro plasticity that the negative self talk and monkey chatter can be healed. DBT is an extremely powerful therapy to help. The pain and emotional reactivity can be healed. Thank you for the very powerful podcast.

[@MidLifeRunner]

Almost 13 years sober, I found healing which restored my self esteem and workaholism after 5 years through a cousin program ACA. It says there is no void, just a glacier of frozen emotion that needs to thaw. I am proof the promises come true. :)

[@henrymcgoldrick4392]

ae a professional therapist, I am amazed by Dr. Attia's incredible honesty about his personal life. Thank-you.

[@scc8728]

I think I need this book of Peter's. I can relate to the detachment we start to feel especially in our middle years. I'm not feeling it to the extreme that Peter experienced but trauma I thought I had dealt with has definitely resurfaced. I can understand that rage and it is scary to be experiencing it again. It's so lovely to hear men talking about something so vulnerable and wanting better for themselves and loved ones. I'm a big believer in "mending" the damage. For example when I make a mistake such as yelling at my child, I take accountability, I apologise for not handling my emotions better and then I say stuff like "if mummy could go back in a time machine this is how I would do differently". For my own regulation, talk therapy, mirror work, exercise and meditation helps. I sometimes wonder in my case as a middle aged female if being perimenopasual has something to do with it - HRT definitely helps.....I imagine men go through something similar.

[@gabg83]

I appreciate how deep this conversation went. Thank you, Dr. Attia, for allowing us to see your vulnerability and for your honesty. Love this podcast. One of my favorite episodes.

[@kristenjoymoss7897]

Brilliant interview - full of so many takeaways! I will definitely order Dr Attia's book! Rich is an extraordinary conversationalist; he asks great questions, shares his viewpoint, and is prepared and knowledgeable about his guests. It was refreshing that these two men shared their knowledge and humanity; the vulnerability was refreshing.

[@MCR1565]

I am a huge fan of DPA. The Drive is the best in my HO. The guy is so in-tune. Highly respected highly recommended. Listen to him on all things scientifically sound and human. I’m now to this channel.!I’m still interested. Thanks for the work, effort, and time of sharing.🙏💖🙏.

[@trishmarck7798]

Would love Dr Attia to interview Dr Gabor Mate Great conversation gentlemen

[@judylarsen7622]

So grateful to both of you for the honesty. So moving. Tears. So important to discuss, especially for men. Thank you.

[@noformstyle]

HONESTY about PERSONAL STORY is the Best Story. I am now a FAN !!!

[@alias-health-tips]

I respect these Men so much. Thank you Peter Attia for your vulnerability in this podcast.

[@terranceparris4169]

The powwer to inspire motivate and the knowledge you impart to millions this is your legacy PETER ATTIA

[@shanephillips8009]

Peter you will not be forgotten brother. You are changing lives

[@resolutionarybeing1885]

Thank you. Love is not optional. More love, truth and forgiveness, shared openly with all beings and the planet can correct humanity's collective wrongs. With about 8 billion of us alive, we have the ability. We have allowed negativity to dominate and prevail. Will we make the Sacred Choice for life while we still can?

[@charlesanthony7954]

One of the most important things men can do is to acknowledge and experience the grief they have, both inherited and their own. As Robert Bly has observed, until they do, they cannot be trusted. Not by themselves, not by others. This is what underlies the rage that is the mask for grief. In relationship, society allows men to do anger and women to do grief. So they take on doing each other’s repressed emotions. It relieves symptoms temporarily but the cure is for men to own and accept and express their grief and women to own, accept and express their anger. Then they and society can really heal and start to come into real balance. As Peter’s experience makes plain, denial is the real dis-ease.

[@byouism]

Wow A beautiful and powerful show of strength. I tuned in to learn about the importance of nutrition etc and get floored by the honesty with the rabbit hole of traumas' long-term effects to health This is my second favorite Rich Roll podcast - wonderfully done. My first is finding your podcast for the first time

[@sinegugundlovu2767]

"There is an epidemic of misery." I felt that...

[@ritajhorn3585]

Excellent interview. So refreshing to hear so much honesty from a doctor. So many people do not want to face their trauma and their vile conduct that’s usually hidden but when they address the issues openly it’s very courageous. Love Rich’s podcasts

[@cjgreene2344]

Love you Peter.

[@chrisbrown2211]

I would have liked to see rich push back a bit when Peter was saying that animal based protein is better and to make sure you get enough protein. Rich seems to think we all get enough protein so it would have been nice to see a healthy debate around that since he's a vegan.

[@luciantudor3093]

Peter is one of my favorite doctors....I like his deep knowledge of sport/nutrition and I apply them in my daily life....thanks Dr.Peter Attia and Rich Roll for such a good podcast...and greetings from Barrie, Ontario, Canada...

[@ougoah]

This is fantastic. I've never heard Peter like this before, and his huskier-than-usual voice adds to the sense that we are seeing a different side of him.

[@stanb8783]

Man I loved this discussion. I’ve always loved Peters diet, health and nutrition talks but man this one hit me at my core because I find myself relating to both speakers so very much. I almost teared up at times because it was like they were telling my story.

[@Francie315]

I am so glad to be able to hear this conversation! I can’t even express how this brutally honest dialogue explains what has been happening to me for eons! Childhood trauma turned outside in and inside out! I have been struggling for years to fix and heal myself, pretty much on my own. I actually believed for years, until recently, that I was the only one walking around with a wounded child within me. A child who has totally interrupted and inconvenienced my life! Thanks guys this is a very excellent and prevalent topic! I was finally diagnosed in 2015 with two autoimmune diseases that I can trace back symptoms of when I was very young! Emotional trauma not dealt with does not just go away with time! And it absolutely can affect the quality of your health and wellbeing. So grateful!

[@jimpatek6244]

My respect for Peter Attia and the service he provides to humanity doubled during this wonderful discussion and I walked away with a smile and a quiet laugh. Thanks so much Rich and Peter for contributing to making getting old less of a thing to be feared and highly enjoyable (and it is!).

[@sazcorp]

So proud of Peter for taking such a brave step. Amazing episode! Well done both of you!

[@jent7945]

I cried. Powerful. Thank-you both for that moment.

[@pamelacofield2302]

Thank you for being so vulnerable! Beautiful!

[@kathryngganderson8636]

Nobody lives forever. Facing your mortality and acting on that means doing the best you can for as long as you can. Being there for your wife and children as much as you can IS the most important life decision you can make. Kudos both of you for your honesty and integrity!

[@martykerns3802]

USA has the lowest health span of all industrialized countries.

[@alexkarasz6186]

Powerful. I'm so glad this Convo exists.

[@richardmagid5386]

Another amazing Rich Roll interview. This is very timely for me. THANK YOU!

[@johngiammona1572]

It’s amazing that we get this information for free. I love Attia, and Huberman, and everyone else that provides useful information. The problem is they don’t provide resources to get the proper treatment or testing we need. How do I find a local doctor that thinks the same and stays up to date on the data and research? Most doctors I’ve gone to will throw pills at you or tell me i’m young and have nothing to worry about right now. I don’t even trust these docs to read my blood work. I believe Attia has a private practice where only the rich can afford to be under his care. It’s nice to listen to this information but it’s useless if we can’t obtain the care we really need to live a long and healthy life. I understand diet and exercise are a huge percent of it but I’m talking everything outside of that. Such as testing and screening. I hope this makes sense lol

[@joshbeiler9653]

Thank you Peter. I am a long time fan, and this interview was profound and moving

[@Karen19820]

Thank you both for helping us understand so many things and how we and our loved ones are affected. I got so many answers to questions I’ve had for a very long time. Blessings to you both. 🏆

[@sylviekaiser1064]

Courageous, important and timely- thank you to the both of you for your strength and kindness to humanity- men and boys are hurting