The 3.5% Rule of Non-Violent Resistance: Civil Disobedience Can Succeed

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Parkrose Permaculture

Parkrose Permaculture

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@kathyamen7173
@kathyamen7173 2 күн бұрын
That’s how I feel about everything - minimum wage, healthcare, taxes, schools, there is no protesting - in France people burn shit in the streets
@user-zu5do6ri6r
@user-zu5do6ri6r 2 күн бұрын
@kathyamen7173 Did you miss J6th. Speaking to tyrants is a waste of time. If we go Protesting, it's gonna come to blows.
@homeiswonderland
@homeiswonderland Күн бұрын
​@@user-zu5do6ri6r Jan 6th is not an equivalent.
@nevergoon4315
@nevergoon4315 Күн бұрын
mutual aid networks! civil disobedience sometimes looks like free public education! food + health resources! business support!
@Hanniah--Heart
@Hanniah--Heart 4 сағат бұрын
No protesting? There arer literal organizations dedicated to protesting, what are you talking about?
@intuitionz1198
@intuitionz1198 2 күн бұрын
personally, I'm worried about getting arrested. apparently you don't have to do anything illegal to get arrested anymore. as long as you are poor, that is.
@Omegalove_777
@Omegalove_777 2 күн бұрын
That’s true. Poor people don’t get civil rights. The law does not recognize the constitutional rights for poor people because well you’re poor. Only wealthy people receive benefits of the state.
@RebeccaMorris-v6m
@RebeccaMorris-v6m 2 күн бұрын
Didn't Trump say he wanted to give police complete immunity? He could let them do whatever they wanted to protesters to make sure we don't organize.
@lisam5744
@lisam5744 2 күн бұрын
You live in Florida, too?
@intuitionz1198
@intuitionz1198 2 күн бұрын
@@lisam5744 not anymore. I haven't lived there in 7 years and I don't regret it one bit
@rudeboyjohn3483
@rudeboyjohn3483 23 сағат бұрын
If you can get arrested or merced by a pig for anything and nothing, may as well fight
@danbolton3180
@danbolton3180 2 күн бұрын
You gave the answer in your question, constant fighting and protesting for the last 10 years. I've been an advocate for pedestrian and bicycling safety for 30 years. I'm currently trying to get my county commissioners and sheriff to just enforce current laws. Fighting can take it out of a body.
@jean6453
@jean6453 2 күн бұрын
I hope that you can get a lot of people to support you in your project, at least 3.5 % of your community.
@lisam5744
@lisam5744 2 күн бұрын
Last dumpy administration took a lot out of folks, too. We've got to build rest cycles into our resistance and protests. Because in a few days here we go again. I still can't believe this has to be done again. Oy.
@cherimoya-000
@cherimoya-000 2 күн бұрын
Love your videos! Longtime social movement organizer here. I’m thrilled that you've become interested in learning about strategies for civil resistance. The 3.5% rule comes up often in my work with organizations using nonviolent direct action, and there are some significant criticisms I’d like to add to the conversation. The first criticism I encountered was in a 2020 paper titled “Social Movements and the (mis)use of Research: Extinction Rebellion and the 3.5% rule,” published in the Commons Social Change Library. The key argument that paper makes is that the Chenoweth’s 3.5% rule is derived from case studies that involve “autocratic regimes and occupying military forces rather than the liberal democratic contexts” activists in western neoliberal countries encounter. To that end, the George Floyd uprisings provide a compelling real-world example. Most estimates say that between 15-25 million people took to the streets that summer - between 4.5-7.5% of the 2020 US population - and those mobilizations achieved nothing of political significance, and even led to an increase in police funding and militarization (specifically all of the “Cop Cities” that have sprung up as a direct result of that summer). The point you make at the beginning of this video is important: social movements must be strategic. And I’ll add that they must have clear demands and targets, and must be sustained. Symbolic mobilizations (protests and rallies) are generally ineffective. They pose no real challenge to power, and without clear demands, targets and strategies, they only lead to burnout and disappointment among activists. For more on that idea, I’d recommend the work of George Lakey, who has been organizing and training activists since the Civil Rights era. Check out his article titled “Why campaigns, not protests, get the goods” in Waging Nonviolence for a good summary. This is a key theme of his work. Another research paper that indirectly challenges the conventional wisdom of the 3.5% rule, titled “What the climate movement’s debate about disruption gets wrong,” was published in Nature in January 2024. Here’s a quote from the introduction: “We argue that majority support is the wrong metric. More important than whether or not a tactic wins over the majority of the public is whether it imposes disruption on elite decision-makers. Our argument consists of three theses: (1) disruption must impose direct costs on elite decision makers; (2) disruption must be sustained; and (3) disruption can encompass a range of tactics.” One more resource I’ll bring to your attention is the Global Nonviolent Action Database. It’s full of detailed case studies of direct action campaigns from around the world and provides a wealth of information and inspiration about strategies and tactics that have been used to achieve social change. Please keep making videos on this topic as you continue down the rabbit hole. I’d be happy to talk one-on-one or exchange emails if you’d ever like to bounce ideas around. Thank you!
@reignofbastet
@reignofbastet 2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the information!
@valkolakk
@valkolakk 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for adding more info!
@RebeccaMorris-v6m
@RebeccaMorris-v6m 2 күн бұрын
I have some studying to do. Thank you both for educating us.
@CafeLu
@CafeLu 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this !
@mikef.1807
@mikef.1807 2 күн бұрын
true to my ears. We need to vote to fix our democracy, if they even give us that option in two years. TikTok isn't my income stream, and i don't wish people to be silenced, but it seems to me the reason they want to ban it is because it can help create movements. It could be a Chinese psyop or a perma culture activist. Shutting both down is the safe play for Power to make here. So what will we do about it? Worse yet what if returning it in some form is used for political gain? I don't know. Dark times are coming.
@SwansingerLJG
@SwansingerLJG 2 күн бұрын
The answer to why we aren’t doing this is, at least partially, fear. Americans don’t realize this, but subconsciously, they know they live in a police state. Civil disobedience in this country carries with it a very high risk of getting brutally beaten, maimed, arrested, or even killed by cops who use violence with impunity. Just look at what happened to the pro-Palestine demonstrators on college campuses over the last several months. Not only that, but it’s basically impossible to organize 3.5% of the population without attracting the attention of the FBI, who will actively sabotage your movement if it looks like a threat, or just have you classified as a terrorist organization and then anything goes. That’s not even considering the fear of losing your job, which not only means losing a source of income that you need to afford rent and groceries, but it also means losing your health insurance, meaning you and your family can’t get medical care. Whatever it may say in the Constitution, you don’t actually have the freedoms you believe you do. Are you willing to risk your life and your family’s lives for this? Is this worth dying for? To most Americans, the answer is still “not yet.” That’s why you haven’t seen it.
@christinalhitz
@christinalhitz Күн бұрын
100 percent this.
@sarahhaley7458
@sarahhaley7458 Күн бұрын
I’ll add that for those of us her were there way back…and never signed up for facebook… I don’t want to waste my own resources fighting for people that sign up for facebook And I am far less likely to pick up a cross for people that suddenly care about an issue because it suddenly started to starve them, too… Fighters aren’t out because this isn’t that…this is just FAFO for people who like facebook (and X…the I have nothing to hide- pick me- 11th hour anti-capitalist sort) We already fought. We lost.
@ThackeroosPlantShop
@ThackeroosPlantShop 21 сағат бұрын
Damn… this is spot on too. The candid convo happening here is interesting bc it resonates.
@AgentEm34
@AgentEm34 21 сағат бұрын
The biggest irony in this for me is the fact that many of us would even risk being beaten or maimed if we had access to affordable, effective healthcare
@SwansingerLJG
@SwansingerLJG 17 сағат бұрын
@ And that's part of the reason why you still don't.
@themushtube42
@themushtube42 2 күн бұрын
Maybe its because since 2016 weve seen big social movements to hold accountability to all kinds of systems and nothing really changed and actually its all going to get way worse? Plus the new admin is so likely to use violence against even non violent citizens.
@lisam5744
@lisam5744 2 күн бұрын
I wonder about that, too. And I see more people 'Luigi-ing' folks in power if that starts. People that feel like they have no alternative will act like it.
@meadowrae1491
@meadowrae1491 Күн бұрын
This is what I was going to say. The Women's March in 2016 was the largest single day protest in US history, and nothing happened. BLM, MeToo, etc. It's like they saw the people speaking and did the exact opposite of what we wanted.
@meadowrae1491
@meadowrae1491 Күн бұрын
I live in WV. We were a state of the working man, a state of protesters, Montani Semper Liberi. The govt literally bombed striking workers here. Even through the 70's there were (very effective) strikes going on. So what happened? The changes that have been happening since the 80's are insidious. In my area it was overdoses. The morgue couldn't keep up at one point. Now the area is not only poor, but basically entire generations have been wiped out, and the mountaineer spirit left with it. Has there been a successful protest since the 80's? There have been plenty of people protesting, but it hasn't resulted in any change. Other than violence, I think the only way we can truly protest is to not have children.
@deevnn
@deevnn 21 сағат бұрын
Excellent point...
@Summalogicae
@Summalogicae 2 күн бұрын
Invoking constitutional rights is not particularly encouraging or convincing. The US has, when convenient, violated every constitutional right there is throughout its history, and multiple times over up to the present day; moreover, SCOTUS can just rule your constitutional right down to a mere nominal status. In fact, the constitutional rights you posses are always relative to and dependent on, whatever majority ruling wins in a SCOTUS opinion. To beat a dead horse: SCOTUS can essentially rule whatever they want, as has been demonstrated in the recent ruling that allows the President to be practically immune from being legally held accountable for any and all crimes committed. I would not rely on my “constitutional rights” to shield any American from anything.
@juliemoore5395
@juliemoore5395 2 күн бұрын
To your last point, I keep thinking about the fact that the population of Greenland is largely Inuit people - that knowledge makes me even more disgusted by the proclamation of the orange one that the US will take it over. Like haven't we (European Americans) done enough to native peoples?
@user-zu5do6ri6r
@user-zu5do6ri6r 2 күн бұрын
@juliemoore5395 Nobody cares. I'm starving, my kids are starving. Can we eat the inuit? If not, why are you talking about them?
@TIznus
@TIznus Күн бұрын
Oh goodness you are easily trolled.
@Zelorp
@Zelorp Күн бұрын
@TIznus If you think trolling is an acceptable foreign policy agenda, brother you are lost in the darkness.
@schoolingdiana9086
@schoolingdiana9086 9 сағат бұрын
@@user-zu5do6ri6rWe are all connected. What happens to them, happens to us eventually. Apathy is not a choice because that’s how the Jews got exterminated.
@schoolingdiana9086
@schoolingdiana9086 9 сағат бұрын
Greenland is still owned by Denmark. The Danish military could hand the entire U.S. military their backside on a plate, in days-not weeks. And they’ve declared they will do so, if Trump tries to push it.
@scottpearce8772
@scottpearce8772 Күн бұрын
... It's not that we can not feed the hungry or house the homeless, the problem is that we can never satisfy the wealthy...
@lauram5139
@lauram5139 2 күн бұрын
I think it's exhaustion. I think that a lot of people don't believe it will actually happen.
@jcomden
@jcomden 2 күн бұрын
Most people fear (and know deep down) that solidarity in today's society is ephemeral, weak, and performative, so why take the risk. I think we need to work on trust and relationships before we can come together in civil disobedience.
@victoriajankowski1197
@victoriajankowski1197 2 күн бұрын
I think a couple points so often ignored in pointing to how effective 'non-violent' protests are 1-it not non-violent its accepting the violence on your self, sit-ins, crossing a bridge into a line of mounted cops where very violent, it just wasn't to protesters being violent. 2- non-violent groups is most often only effective when there's a violent group to compare them to MLK is the opposite side of the coin from Malcolm-X and they knew it. There's power in 'hey at least we aren't doing that' . The effectiveness of non-violence is often in the promise of the alternative.
@iwannastealsomething
@iwannastealsomething 2 күн бұрын
I don't think people have enough faith that they can make a difference. Especially knowing how militarized our police have become over even just the last decade. Plus just like you said, the majority of Gen Z is more burnt out and exhausted than anyone realizes. We shouldn't have to be working overtime just to barely pay our bills.
@MonicaLea
@MonicaLea 2 күн бұрын
We have either become accustomed to being fucked over or are just exhausted from the barrage of shit that has caused serious mental and moral trauma. We have seen our legal system fold and allow fascists to get away with a myriad of crimes, we've seen the highest court in the land rewrite the law to allow further crimes to be committed, and we have seen what passes for opposition act like either complete morons or eagerly appease fascists under the guise of upholding norms and "reaching across the aisle." We have seen protests result in nothing more than temporarily changed street names and companies cutting off funds to the fascists only to go right back to bribing them as soon as the press dies down. Now we see every company and every .1 percenter give massive amounts of money to the fascists and those who control the media cower like a beaten dog and do whatever the fascists tell them to do. For a lot of us, all this is proof that the US is completely lost and many other countries will probably end up following the same path.
@sarahenson9659
@sarahenson9659 2 күн бұрын
Chenowith’s work is really good. I think an important take on non-violent resistance that should be watched is Innuendo Studios video “The Gandhi Trap.” I also recommend Andreas Malm’s book “How to Blow Up a Pipeline”. An important fact to remember is both state and federal governments have laws in place to cruelly punish protesters. If American farmers had dumped manure on the capital, they probably would’ve received 20 years in prison.
@reignofbastet
@reignofbastet 2 күн бұрын
Almost like they’ve forgotten about the Tea Party they love to reference so much. The lack of self awareness, and willful stupidity, is about to give me an aneurysm.
@neirokou
@neirokou 2 күн бұрын
My two cents, I think the lack of action comes down to a couple things. (Includes edit below) 1. People (especially in America) don't want to acknowledge when bad things might happen to them. People see bad things coming and think, "oh but that would never happen to me." I think a lot of people are just hoping the ban won't happen. 2. I think a lot of people don't know where to start or (like Angela said) don't want to be inconvenienced. Kind of like learned helplessness, if you don't learn the ways you can help/don't seek out real-world networks, you don't have to actually make sacrifices or risk anything. (I say as someone who's definitely guilty of this.) Especially since a lot of the third spaces where people would congregate naturally have been taken from us. There's a lot less of the face-to-face encouragement to act. Since many people (myself included) have gotten into leftism and activism (or armchair activism more so in this case) via the internet, the learned behavior has been to interact with that stuff online, but don't rock the boat in the real world. Edited to add that people can just turn off their phones and the problem goes away in their eyes. I don't think i did a great job organizing my thoughts, but that's what I've got
@JeffryBozes
@JeffryBozes 2 күн бұрын
3rd places are just a band-aid for community under capitalism. The guy who invented the concept of 3rd places was a conservative. We need to fight for Right to the City.
@ThackeroosPlantShop
@ThackeroosPlantShop 21 сағат бұрын
Nailed it.
@RebeccaMorris-v6m
@RebeccaMorris-v6m 2 күн бұрын
I think any street protesting will be dangerous under Trump. He proved he'd hurt peaceful protesters last time he was president. I think the kind of protesting we need to do is boycotting different things. We can get a lot more than 3.5% participation.
@davidwalker2942
@davidwalker2942 2 күн бұрын
Our communication is splintered into dozens if not hundreds of different sites. Acting in unison requires nearly simultaneously reaching widespread people or organizations in close to real time...
@CourtneyCha0s
@CourtneyCha0s 2 күн бұрын
Getting arrested. That's why. You can be in compliance with the law but if the big ones don't like it, you pay the price.
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis 2 күн бұрын
previous generations didn't gaf about that
@CantForgetJ6
@CantForgetJ6 2 күн бұрын
Dont you get it? The statists are cutting off our connectivity for this SPECIFIC REASON
@sophiasometimes9818
@sophiasometimes9818 2 күн бұрын
Maybe we need to start reconnecting off the internet
@mamadaboss67
@mamadaboss67 2 күн бұрын
Honestly, I believe us citizens will not act because we are not suffering enough in new ways yet. Not paid enough? Boring No good health care? Used to it Violated human rights? Eh, it’s not so bad. Censorship? I didn’t even notice. Banned abortion? It’s not me, I don’t know know one personally. Can’t air rent?/house? Well, no one can so let’s live with friends. Those are all old are boring suffering that we’ve gotten used to. We’ve already adapted. Give us a complete ban on all social media with an immediate removal of services. Unannounced. In the middle of the night. Canceling women’s voting rights and minority (one drop rule is back!) voting rights, along with needing to register uteruses and pregnancy requirements. All that together might be enough. That level is what we need to mobilize 3.5%. We all saw what happened with the world wide Black Lives Matter protests that lasted for months. And we all saw that not one thing changed and people just got hurt and now it’s worse. The stakes have got to be a lot higher that just an app at this point. I hope I’m wrong. But I don’t think so. Maybe CA refusing to pay taxes because Trump refused aid. Would be a good start. Or the west coast to succeed to Canada, along with a few from the west side. That might motivate some people. But will always have MAGA and red states dragging their heels preferring what we’ve got over a republic or democracy. 🤷 I really do hope I’m wrong and I’ll wake up in the morning and none of this has happened.
@StevenKHarrison
@StevenKHarrison 2 күн бұрын
America is the land of I I ME ME MINE.
@AngieLuna-k8i
@AngieLuna-k8i 2 күн бұрын
I think we are waiting for someone else to get things rolling, we need someone that knows what they are doing. I’m willing to participate, but have no idea where to begin.
@celiashen5490
@celiashen5490 22 сағат бұрын
This is so true. One of us needs to step up and be MLK, Jr..
@artvandelay8030
@artvandelay8030 2 күн бұрын
#DOFD Devices off for Democracy. ....just turn'em off. Boycott the inauguration.
@alexandergramirez
@alexandergramirez Күн бұрын
Nobody is organizing the protests...you have to pick a date, pick a city, apply for the permits --which can be a large hassle. We're nerds and not many of us are legally aware. The TikTok lawyers need to step up and TikTok era with large numbers of followers need to put out the word. I can donate some money. Let me know the GoFundMe and I'll do so
@_BlackPaladin
@_BlackPaladin 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for using your page to have these important discussions
@9999_IQ_Carrot
@9999_IQ_Carrot Күн бұрын
We've tried that nonviolent thing for decades yet here we are. WAKE UP
@Tomsdatter
@Tomsdatter 2 күн бұрын
3,5% of the population will be around 12 million people.
@judithmccrea2601
@judithmccrea2601 Күн бұрын
The French don’t play. We need to be more French!!! I was in Paris that day. It was scary and exhilarating!!! Especially when the thunder storm happened. So dramatic!
@rachellskerlec4713
@rachellskerlec4713 2 күн бұрын
They are taking away TikTok so that we cannot organize ourselves as easily.
@sangha1486
@sangha1486 2 күн бұрын
I highly recommend the work of Gene Sharp, founder of the Einstein Institute who has worked advising non-violent movements, most notably the Otpor movement in Serbia after the breakup of Yugoslavia. His Wikipedia entry has links to some of his work online.
@Hachisherman75
@Hachisherman75 2 күн бұрын
Yes, Gene Sharp spent 50 years studying non-violent action and his 198 ways to wage non-violent revolution should be studied by anyone in this country who wants to change the path we're on now.
@juleshappy741
@juleshappy741 2 күн бұрын
Many of us are just surviving or learning how to thrive after years of god knows what. My activism right now is to take care of myself. I’m meditating and praying on a daily basis now, wasn’t doing that before. I’m donating money. I’m writing my elected peeps. Soon, I will be taking a class on policy making. I’m spreading uplifting vibes. This is my activism for right now. It will grow and evolve. There’s a woman named Andrea Winn, who is making spiritual warrior videos. One member of her community is starting a meditation for peace group in her local community. Let’s keep moving forward ~ 🙌
@doctork1708
@doctork1708 Күн бұрын
You’re just virtue signaling and being self-absorbed.
@rudeboyjohn3483
@rudeboyjohn3483 23 сағат бұрын
Dictators and tyrants have never been voted out of power. The THREAT of consequence has to be implied and enforceable
@marlinperkins6910
@marlinperkins6910 2 күн бұрын
I don’t use TikTok so I don’t have a dog in this fight, but if 170 million Americans use it, let them actually lose it for a while. My guess is most aren’t really registering it yet. Once they lose it, they will perk up and let their anger be felt.
@serazvi5387
@serazvi5387 Күн бұрын
I feel like this might be what needs to happen. Humans are good at reacting to immediate threats, not being proactive.
@beverlybauer3820
@beverlybauer3820 Күн бұрын
I am going to a March Saturday. And, will continue to do so. Generation jones, the forgotten generation here.
@Sunflowertzu
@Sunflowertzu 2 күн бұрын
"Suffering forward". I recently watched a politics girl video where she mentioned a women's reproductive rights group had gone silent. She spoke with one of the leaders who had done polling and research, she said people are disengaged right now. I've since heard about this as a strategy from some Dem. leaders as well. It's when people actually start suffering that they will become more engaged. So, IMHO, people like yourself are preparing for that shift, have a place and a process, have a game plan as you are doing and when the time is right you'll probably have more then 3.5%.
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis Күн бұрын
if one thinks this a good approach one should shhhhhh
@mechelleyeager104
@mechelleyeager104 2 күн бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing this morning.
@shne388
@shne388 2 күн бұрын
Americans have A LOT to learn from the French. Right now, they're just eating french fries at home wallowing in despair.
@katsybo
@katsybo 2 күн бұрын
I don’t trust our safety
@GoodBeets4ME
@GoodBeets4ME 2 күн бұрын
And the Bannon/Musk fight is becoming fascinating. And James Carville admitted Bernie is right.
@bastetowl3258
@bastetowl3258 Күн бұрын
if a lot of us walk out on the job, we can greatly tank the economy but most change in society came as a result of a combination of violent (usually property, infrastructure damage and self-defense) and non-violent action. also there has to be a plan for what will replace the current system we have now. we can't just have leaders step down and then create a power vacuum. there has to be people with a vision for the future of the government
@CircaBEFORE
@CircaBEFORE 2 күн бұрын
Non violent resistance has never made significant change on its own. FYI. Facts. Free Luigi. Free Palestine 🇵🇸 🔻
@schoolingdiana9086
@schoolingdiana9086 9 сағат бұрын
That’s incorrect. You need to read how Estonia overthrew to USSR.
@thestoneageman3659
@thestoneageman3659 2 күн бұрын
NO LEADERSHIP!!!
@hellenback1445
@hellenback1445 Күн бұрын
I spent the last year and a half trying to elect Democratic leaders. I lost, I am exhausted. The Dictator arrives in under 48hrs. The Sturmabteilung has been formed.
@valkolakk
@valkolakk 2 күн бұрын
3.5% here also equates to more that 11 million people. I think this is doable, but it's worth keeping that number in mind.
@andysaorkerfay6035
@andysaorkerfay6035 Күн бұрын
Thank you for this. We outnumber them!! Find Sons of Liberty for hope and solidarity. Today, January 18th, they (with many others) are in the street in Washington DC
@LaNach
@LaNach Күн бұрын
Hello, you mentioned France, where I live, but these movements didn´t change anything. We still have this retirement bill and farmers unliving themselves because of debts. So it moderates the changing power of mass protest. Nothing happened, they still do what they want with autority.
@DeadSpiritGuide
@DeadSpiritGuide 2 күн бұрын
We’re not in the streets, because TikTok is still one of the least of the worries of people who actually are willing to do something to make a difference.
@DeadSpiritGuide
@DeadSpiritGuide 2 күн бұрын
American indoctrination is so effective and efficient, that most people will not lift a finger until there is no food on their table.
@umbraemilitos
@umbraemilitos 19 сағат бұрын
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make..." That is my fear.
@projectwindowpain
@projectwindowpain Күн бұрын
According to Wikipedia "An estimated 15 to 26 million people participated in Black Lives Matter protests in the United States." That blows past the 3.5% threshold. The overall result was both parties funneled more funding and power to police anyway. 3.5% may be good for something like TikTok but I'm thinking we'll need more than 10% to fight against fascism or established structural issues.
@glike2
@glike2 17 сағат бұрын
3.5% is about 10 million Americans, not easy but doable. We need to remember this for every moment that matters. 2028 elections, Jan 6 2029.
@GoodBeets4ME
@GoodBeets4ME 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing all of this great information.
@fennecfreind
@fennecfreind 22 сағат бұрын
Its worth noting that despite its popular use, tik tok has generally not been viewed as “good” by the very people that use it. I think a big part of it comes down to the fact that Tik tok is viewed somewhat “embarrassingly”. The societies average collective view is something along the lines of life would be better without tik tok. Brain rot, attention spans, behavioral issues with children… etc… frequently all get blamed in some way on tiktok.
@ShoestringJane
@ShoestringJane 2 күн бұрын
Interesting and inspiring! Thanks
@RipMinner
@RipMinner 2 күн бұрын
The ideal that your going to only use the stuff they let you is totally got me crying. Did you ever agree to there rules. I know I did not and I have also noticed they them selves never follow the rules they write so why should we care one little bit?
@ThackeroosPlantShop
@ThackeroosPlantShop 22 сағат бұрын
I’ll try to answer why I’m not protesting in the streets. I don’t like to protest. I have a house and kids to consider. I don’t want to go to jail. I don’t feel like protests are a safe space because there are extremists that attack groups of people like that on the regular here. I value my life and may families life and autonomy and I’m not directly threatened yet. But, if I felt directly threatened, then I would defend myself and my family. I think most people I know feel this way. They’re not willing to go protest because it feels pointless and dangerous. Also, Americans are who voted for this so I feel like this stupid decision needs to be played out so that they and future generations understand why it’s such a stupid and dangerous decision. Also, I lived in Portland during COVID and the protests and I went down there a few times to witness it and join in and it was a dangerous situation for everyone whether anyone got hurt or not. Everyone is lucky that didn’t escalate any further than them setting police departments on fire and police using non-lethal force. That place was a powder keg. I have no desire to be the target of the state nor an extremist. It’s like a take cover and watch it crumble type of thing that I think most people are feeling.
@jean6453
@jean6453 2 күн бұрын
Well said! I am completely with you on this ✊🏽
@bpw3465
@bpw3465 2 күн бұрын
if we support each other in all our unique ways, small and large, we can make change through CD. i believe the younger generaltions have not seen it work. too many people have 2 jobs, are fed up but too tired. i think it may have to be much worse before people risk the possible repercussions.
@its_notta_cedar
@its_notta_cedar 21 сағат бұрын
And today on parkrose politics we will never be talking about permaculture ever again.
@gianpaulgraziosi6171
@gianpaulgraziosi6171 23 сағат бұрын
Ask: 12M continental Americans to sacrifice convenience, comfort and profit for 5 years.
@andreab.1906
@andreab.1906 Күн бұрын
Not sure I think social media has been good for us. Help me want to keep it.
@robertmcauslan6191
@robertmcauslan6191 2 күн бұрын
In the context of tik tok, I’ve never used it nor do I know anybody who does. Or at least it’s never come up in conversation. So challenging the ban just seemed like a thing that would stretch me thinner with no gain. It wasn’t until you mentioned in previous videos about loss of income that it began to matter to me, granted it’s still low on my to do list but I now understand its impact a bit more. It was literally being able to think about it as “taking jobs” away from folks that I could personally invest anything into it.
@Summalogicae
@Summalogicae 2 күн бұрын
Not to state the obvious here but the concept of “non-violence” is not exactly self-evidence. This notion needs to be unpacked in lieu harms that result from non-violent action. For instance, shut down a freeway bridge during rush hour with non-violent action and harm will result, one simple example is, say, an ambulance cannot get thru.
@DrippyDerp
@DrippyDerp 19 сағат бұрын
I think the 3.5% is the beginning of a snowball effect. It’s still like 11.5 million people!
@calebcase80
@calebcase80 16 сағат бұрын
😂 You guys are crazy... Luigi did more than ten years of protesting
@jamesmcintyre3456
@jamesmcintyre3456 Күн бұрын
Well said🎉🎉🎉
@kwyatt261
@kwyatt261 23 сағат бұрын
Well I think it's because TikTok is an unnecessary luxury we don't need, and most of us kinda recognize that and choose to focus on bigger battles
@kathyamen7173
@kathyamen7173 2 күн бұрын
Is not paying taxes non violent?
@Evan-s7r
@Evan-s7r 2 күн бұрын
It depends on your cellmate.
@schoolingdiana9086
@schoolingdiana9086 9 сағат бұрын
Gen Z and Millennials are working 3 jobs. They don’t have time.
@shieh.4743
@shieh.4743 2 күн бұрын
We need to remember that if there are 3.5% organizing in an authoritarian regime there are waaaaay more too afraid. Maybe that is 60%+ ( making up a number) compared to say 20% in our context. It is interesting.
@leighfoulkes7297
@leighfoulkes7297 23 сағат бұрын
You can't just pick up a sign and protest but you have to be aggressive as well. Gandhi didn't support just passivity but passive aggression.
@amandadiamond7147
@amandadiamond7147 2 күн бұрын
Well, a whole bunch of them just switched over to an app that is controlled by the CCP and chatting with the people on there.
@P4DDYW4CK
@P4DDYW4CK 10 сағат бұрын
Flight attendants, nurses, teachers, railway workers, truckers, port workers, and pilots. Together they can shut down everything. But content creators and influencers? Good luck!
@PeasantsAndOverlords
@PeasantsAndOverlords 2 күн бұрын
Where are my Portlanders at? Let’s do it.
@stillnotmyname1935
@stillnotmyname1935 Күн бұрын
It's because yt people in America are weak. Work on developing your culture. Ytness especially in America is generally defined by what and who it excludeds. Your masses won't protest for better because they don't know who or what they would be outside of the structure provided by the system.
@AmandaJuneHagarty
@AmandaJuneHagarty 14 сағат бұрын
Because doing things from the comfort of your own home is the problem. Maybe if the people losing Tiktok actually take a moment to resist going to the next screen after the ban, they will get off their butts and go out into the world and meet people and discuss things face to face. It doesn't even have to be an act of protest. It just has to be an act of getting together. Coffee shops have been the basis of pretty much every revolution since coffee was discovered by the west.
@Merril05
@Merril05 2 күн бұрын
Yes! Thank you for posting.
@saywhat6062
@saywhat6062 2 күн бұрын
I am really sad you have given up on democrats. Are they perfect, no. Would i like them to do more? Yes. We are now in the 119th congress and democrats are not in control. They have to be strategic in what they do to limit the damage of what the convicted felon’s administration is planning, so i will be continually lobbying my congress people and i will not be giving up on anyone willing to help the ppl. I hope you will join me.
@wendwllhickey6426
@wendwllhickey6426 Күн бұрын
People want to be told what to do thinking is hard for alot of people it is easier to be told what to do .
@ZangariRC
@ZangariRC Күн бұрын
Get elected folks.
@frankiedfourlegs2316
@frankiedfourlegs2316 2 күн бұрын
Let's do this. We need a way to collectively come together.
@silvergenx
@silvergenx 2 күн бұрын
They seem to be working towards an extension and longer term solution.
@lauraalopez
@lauraalopez Күн бұрын
Learned helplessness
@869handyman
@869handyman 2 күн бұрын
People act like their brainwashed and stupid.
@AndersAamodt
@AndersAamodt 19 сағат бұрын
Normalize using free software uncensorable p2p platforms instead of for-profit, closed-source, centralized platforms. Maybe if there are no protests, that energy will end up going somewhere else...
@paulagraphr
@paulagraphr 2 күн бұрын
Because you're about to have Prego taken away, but you'll still have classico, Newman's own, and like 3 other brands of pasta sauce to choose from
@lorenmiller3797
@lorenmiller3797 2 күн бұрын
I think you should read Full Spectrum Resistance by Aric McBay. The first chapter is free online as audio... but the most important material is after the first chapter.
@skystarlit3713
@skystarlit3713 2 күн бұрын
I understand a lot of content makers are super upset about this. I think though that we need perspective on urgency here. California is burning to the ground, Trump is choosing his oligarchy, prices are not going down and most of us are concerned where they will be going next, not to mention geopolitical stuff, people got other things going on you know? To most of it's just a time waster, an enjoyable time waster, but a time waster nonetheless. It's not that most of us didn't support the writer strike in California either, but most of us didn't get out and walk with them because it doesn't affect us like that. I think your call is going to go kind of unheaded here sorry. Most people just aren't viewing it in the lens that you're trying to show them. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying those people aren't going to be willing to do what you're asking them for Tick Tock. Look at Luigi, even that was limited and how many are affected by the insurance agencies? Maybe we should be concentrating on creating something that actually belongs to the community instead of clinging to a platform that isn't entirely in the community's best interests perhaps?
@newtonfinn164
@newtonfinn164 Күн бұрын
Things like the so-called 3.5% rule always strike me as bullshit, trying to put a number on something existential that can't be captured in math. What works to overthrow one oppressive regime won't necessarily work to overthrow another. Would Pol Pot, for instance, have been even slightly fazed by having to quickly eliminate another 3.5% of Cambodia's population? Over my boomer lifetime, we've demonstrated the hell out of one issue after another, and yet here we are, worse off in so many ways than when I was young. Castro wasn't much of a demonstrator, was he? Nor, it seems, was Luigi. Organized, coordinated, incisive ACTION seems to be the only way to bring about change, when the bastards who run the system have shut off change by peaceful means. Maybe losing a virtual outlet for our anger at the system is a blessing in disguise, forcing us, at least a bit, back into reality. You could have 100% of the people virtue signalling revolution on their video screens, and it wouldn't amount to more than a massive fart in the wind.
@saywhat6062
@saywhat6062 2 күн бұрын
Do you know the % of the women in the woman’s march at the beginning of the convicted felon’s first term? Just curious.
@meadowrae1491
@meadowrae1491 Күн бұрын
It's estimated that 1.6% of the entire US population was Marching on January 21, 2017. The largest single day protest in the nation's history. Estimates for DC alone were 470,000. People marched on every continent (yes, there was even one in Antarctica.) There were 81 countries who participated in total. And still. It happened anyway. All of it.
@meadowrae1491
@meadowrae1491 Күн бұрын
The Occupy movement, the BLM movement, they both had well over 50% of the population supporting them. I think another think to take note of is the post-9/11 our police force is armed to the teeth in a way they never were previously, and the Bush Administration lifted the assault weapons ban that was previously in place. It's gotten worse because we aren't looking at public employees anymore, we are literally guarded by militias.
@katiehettinger7857
@katiehettinger7857 2 күн бұрын
Aren't people just moving to other platforms and reorganizing? Isn't that the most effective way to stick it to the man at this point? We will have other issues that will require us to hit the streets.
@UrbaNSpiel
@UrbaNSpiel 6 сағат бұрын
Great video
@CodyRongo-n6q
@CodyRongo-n6q Күн бұрын
I'm with you
@nathaliemann3145
@nathaliemann3145 2 күн бұрын
Omg , I love your earrings. 😂
@mezlandia
@mezlandia Күн бұрын
Millennials are tired.
@GarciaViardot
@GarciaViardot 2 күн бұрын
A great book is NON-VIOLENCE by Mark Kurlansky.
@BekkaPoo
@BekkaPoo Күн бұрын
GENERAL STRIKE CALL OUT SICK ON 1/20/25
@kathyamen7173
@kathyamen7173 2 күн бұрын
I agree 💯
@Omegalove_777
@Omegalove_777 2 күн бұрын
Bystander effect.
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