The 308 Cluster

[@AgungTendaChannel]

nice sharing good luck

[@TinManReloading]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@huongtoituonglai24]

Good evening, great video like like and amazing watching beautiful my friend.🍎🍎

[@EagleEyeShooting]

Let me know if you want some advice and help on this.👍

[@Tex_I_Can]

First thought they came to my mind, "i wonder if Kenny has any advice". I know I'm way to new to the reloading/precision world to have anything to offer.

[@TinManReloading]

I was thinking about your 308 adventures the whole time I was making this video. Lol. I'll call you, Kenny!

[@CrankyCleatus]

The 41.6 of RL-15 looks good....take the Varget and go fertilize the lawn with it 😉. JRB did his whole series on muzzle devices and they will change your groups and point of impact so not suprised the results changed. I really should build a 308.

[@TinManReloading]

Varget is good, Cranky. Don't build a 308. Take up knitting instead. Its less frustrating and it isn't illegal in New Jersey yet.

[@jamespollard1670]

Go Grendel , Cranky . It's easy to load for .

[@CrankyCleatus]

@@jamespollard1670 friends don’t let friends shoot Grendel….GB44 told me that 🤣

[@jamespollard1670]

@@CrankyCleatus He mean't Glock , not Grendel . He gets confused sometimes . lol

[@jamespollard1670]

I found that with the AR , a light factory crimp can make a world of difference . The bolt slamming the round home is fierce on an AR , like a kinetic bullet puller . It can change the bullet OVL and cause flyers . Changing nothing else but adding a light crimp , cut some groups in half for me . Good luck .

[@TinManReloading]

I havent tried loading 308 without a light crimp. You may be onto something though. I've never checked for setback after chambering rounds... Thanks James!

[@jamespollard1670]

@@TinManReloading What it does is jam the bullet into the lands when the bolt is released . Far enough that if you remove an unfired round , it will pull the bullet from the case . That is how I found this out . I then went in the house and crimped the cases and tried again , The groups shrunk in half then . So I kind of found out by accident . lol . So depending on the neck tension and how far away it is from the lands , the bullet can move all over .

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

Hmmmm interesting

[@jamespollard1670]

@@Johnny-jr2lq Measure the OVL before and after slamming the bolt home . Check it a few times . An AR needs a crimp , IMO . How much crimp , depends on the sizing stem you use .

[@ThecrazyScotsman]

isn't reloading fun this is the part many get frustrated over finding that sweet spot. you'll get it brother 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@TinManReloading]

I'm not giving up. Even though I wanna throw the gun in the river 🤣 Tons of fun!

[@tonygslc801]

You'll get it Brother I have faith in you! 👊😎🇺🇲

[@TinManReloading]

Thanks, LVO! I sure hope so.

[@Tex_I_Can]

Sorry to see you're having issues. This community is great. There will be help offered. You'll get it dialed in.

[@TinManReloading]

I know someone will have the answer and I bet its Kenny. Lol. Thanks, Tex!

[@Tex_I_Can]

@@TinManReloading Keep me up on it. I built one last summer but haven't had it out yet. I may need all the information you can pass along. Lol!

[@TinManReloading]

You're starting to sound like me. I built mine last summer too and I've only had it out two or three times 🤣 I'll keep you posted by either making a vid or commenting 👍

[@Tex_I_Can]

@@TinManReloading Thanks!

[@unclejohn1053]

NIce to see you out again Tin!

[@TinManReloading]

Thanks, Uncle John! Its been way too long. I already forgot how to shoot. Haha! Hope you're doing well 👍

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

I also want to add that with all my 308 Winchester rifles 2650 to 2700 fps gives me the best accuracy out of all of them bolt guns and autos. So far the only factory projectiles I have used was the Sierra 168gr BTHP Matchkings. I also went through that consistency issue probably myself. However it was with cast projectiles never with factory projectiles.

[@TinManReloading]

Ill keep that in mind. I noticed my charges were kind of on the lower end. What barrel length are you running? This one is an 18" barrel. I dont think I got above 2500

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

@@TinManReloading 20” but apparently in 308 the difference between 20” and 18” is negligible. I probably should have just went with a 18” but no biggie. I don’t have any experience with the powders you are running. But the ones I have used so far are H4895,AR comp,I had 1 pound of Benchmark but to be honest I wasn’t really excited with it. I have 50 cartridges loaded up with it but I’m thinking about pulling em down. I can get WAY better numbers with the H4895. Honestly TinMan try the CFE223 you will be satisfied with it I know powders are hard to come by but if you can get your hands on something in the burn rate of the ones I mentioned your accuracy will become more consistent.

[@ocean374]

I feel you when I was doing 308 I was going crazy it was frustrating

[@TinManReloading]

I remember the issues you and Kenny had with the compass. Thank you for your text messages!

[@brokeloader]

Testing can be frustrating but You'll get it.

[@TinManReloading]

It definitely is. Thanks, Brokeloader

[@Jerry-dk8se]

Are you changing the OAL, too? .308 was frustrating for me, too. As soon as life settles down for me again, I'll be getting back to my .308 testing, and I'll be jumping into 6.5 Creedmoor testing, too. But mine is all bolt guns, and I don't have an AR10 platform. Good luck with trying to find the sweet spot, Brother 🤞

[@TinManReloading]

Good to hear from you, Jerry! I'm just using book lengths to start with. 2.800 inches. I hope life settles down soon and you have better luck than I am having!

[@jesseboutdoors]

All part of testing. Sometimes good sometimes you want to beat the gun.

[@TinManReloading]

Could always use the gun as a sledgehammer if all else fails. Haha. Thanks, Jesse

[@cory8791]

Try a flat base bullet! Great vid!

[@TinManReloading]

Ill keep that in mind. Thanks, Cory 👍

[@oddballschtuff]

Have you tried sweet talk? Some AR platforms respond well to some loving whispers. That is super frustrating though. Any chance the scope is shifting slightly?

[@TinManReloading]

I'm more of a "Shoot right or I'll turn you into a golf club" kinda guy 🤣 It's possible, but I dont think so. I checked the screws and they're all good. Thats not to say the reticle isn't screwy, but I think the scope is more accurate than I am. Now the hard part is figuring out what's NOT as accurate as me.

[@oddballschtuff]

For me, everything’s more accurate than I am. Sad but true

[@unclejim2330]

I love the title. . 😂

[@TinManReloading]

It was for you 🤣🦄

[@westcovinadodge]

That chrono sounds like a librarian telling you the book is a week overdue. was that 2300fps or 3300fps?

[@unclejim2330]

“The live chat has ended.”

[@TinManReloading]

Bahaha. 2300. I wish the chronograph would smack talk you. "You're terrible. Just give up."

[@westcovinadodge]

@@unclejim2330 "Its Tinmans fault"

[@cw2a]

Morning Man.

[@TinManReloading]

Morning, CW! Just watched your 45 Colt bullet pulling vid. Great stuff 👍

[@cw2a]

@@TinManReloading ♥️♥️🙏♥️🇺🇸

[@67REBELSSTAMC]

Don’t feel bad mine only likes PMC Bronze 147gr. I’ve tried everything

[@TinManReloading]

The 168 SMK is the only bullet I've tried, but I was under the impression that those are the gold standard for 308 accuracy. I'll start from square 1 and double check my build, then go from there. Might be something I did incorrectly while assembling?

[@ChrisFromThe740]

👍👍

[@GhostRiderUSA]

Is that a free float barrel? That made a big difference on a friend's AR-10.

[@TinManReloading]

Yes, free float handguard. My swivel stud mount is kinda close to my gas block, but I dont think the barrel is whipping enough to hit. Its probably a good 3/16 or 1/4" away from touching the gas block.

[@ggwoutdoors2a]

Does your wife know about the strange woman calling out your velocities? She may be distracting you...

[@TinManReloading]

She's fine with her calling out velocities. Its when she begins to mutter things that are condescending and anti-semitic that things get weird 🤣

[@tims6212]

I may have missed you saying, but what distance are you shooting?

[@TinManReloading]

This is all at 100 yards.

[@tims6212]

@@TinManReloading nice shooting. I like the target sheets. Those are very handy.

[@TinManReloading]

@@tims6212 I have them photo copied. Charlie Irby sent me those quote a few years back. They've been a great help with organization. Do you want them? I can email them to you? I just print them on computer paper and stick 1" or 2" dots on them.

[@tims6212]

@@TinManReloading Heck yeah! Thank you! My email is in my about section on my page. I greatly appreciate it.

[@mckwilly]

👍

[@TinManReloading]

Thanks, Mahck.

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

If you can get your hands on CFE223 you won’t be disappointed. Sierra BTHP on top of CFE223 gave me .5” groups at 100 yards. Also I was sizing my brass with the RCBS AR dies

[@HobbiesHobo]

Tricky! Fun hobby Eh! haha

[@TinManReloading]

It's persnickety to say the least. I've had issues like this with a bolt gun, but good brass and good bullets solved the issues. This one has me confused. Lol!