The 4.7L Powertech Made Just 235hp 🤣

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[@charliedee9276]

HO's were 265 and 08+ were over 300. Get all the facts dude.

[@ascendantrobin3230]

👌

[@southpaw1519]

Yea 300 hp in 09 when there were Japanese and Korean V6 that made more power. Hell there where Korean and Japan V8s with similar displacement that made much more power and way more torque.

[@NeedForSpeed.2004]

To be fair there was also the 2007 F150 4.6L making 232hp

[@NXT_LVL]

Thats Ford, no one wants to crap on that unless its the 5.4 Triton with Cam phasers. Oddly the 4.7 being a SOHC has them and never had failures.. odd right?

[@Teddy_Vilardi]

People complain a lot

[@hilljackzack7284]

They remade this engine for the 2009-2013 trucks and cars with 310 Hp and 330lbft torque.

[@jacoblami1731]

True I own a RAM with this engine and found myself an Eaton M90 supercharger from the junkyard for $70. It's making about what the stock hemi did and I could probably run a smaller pulley and make more if I trusted the transmission. When I have to replace the filter and change the ATF I might modify the valve body with a sonnax kit to bump the line pressure. It will make easily 400HP if I run an electric fan from the V6 and press on a smaller pulley onto the M90 and still be cheaper than a Hemi.

[@hilljackzack7284]

@@jacoblami1731 what year truck is it? I’m thinking of getting an m90 for mine. I also own a ram with the newer 4.7

[@jacoblami1731]

​ @hilljackzack7284 2012 RAM 1500 There are kits available too but if you have a CNC you can make an adapter plate for the m90 to fit the stock throttle body. Intake can be as elaborate as you'd like but I just used a big piece of flex pipe (same bore as throttle body) coated in silicone with foil tape on the outside. Oiling can be the real pain because these heads arguably don't get enough oil pressure as it is. Might want to run an auxiliary but in my case I just made sure the pump is brand new and run off the lines that used to go to an auxiliary oil cooler. Temps never get passed the center of the gauge on the dash. Sorry probably more than you need to know but I figured I'd save you some research if you're looking to do the same on your truck.

[@hilljackzack7284]

@@jacoblami1731 thank you! Mines a 2011 so I’ll probably be doing this soon!

[@jacoblami1731]

@@hilljackzack7284 It definitely make the truck a lot more fun but keep in mind it will kill some of your fuel efficiency and make sure you've got a 2nd vehicle as the install can be fiddly and take longer than anticipated. While I've taken mine off and reinstalled it in just over an hour the first time took me an entire long weekend.

[@drewsey5733]

To be fair they were never designed to be a race engine, it’s a understressed fairly torquey work truck engine. That stacks well with its competitors, the 2v 4.6 and 4.8. The 2008 update kicked that up to 305/310 depending on the application, which is more than the 4.8 and on par with the 3v 4.6. There was also the HO version of the earlier 4.7 that made 268hp. For the time it’s not too bad. There’s also things you can do to them to make more. But given it was I believe origionally an AMC design that Chrysler carried to market it’s fine. Not a race motor but they’re smooth, refined, torquey, and if you maintain them correctly they’re reliable and can last a long time.

[@NXT_LVL]

Yet everyone tried to tow with it. Thats who's crying foul. They had the Hemi option, but didn't want to pay over the base 4.7 back then. Big difference between the Jeeps and Dakotas and its sad how they crap on it and we all have to defend it. If anything the 4.7 was as "Hemi" as that 5.7 wannabe "Hemi" was. The heads of the 4.7 were said to look hemispherical hence the "semi-Hemi" branding the 4.7 got

[@jkink8049]

I’ll take a 230 hp v8 over a 300 hp v6 anyday

[@GoodOlRoll]

I get what you mean. The feeling is unmatched.

[@user-wm3fc1sk1p]

Y'all are high. V6's sound really good with long tube headers and and a good exhaust system, none of that straight pipe nonsense broke boys be doing to v6s turning them into rasp mobiles...

[@clodge5196]

​@@user-wm3fc1sk1pplease it sounds like a s***** buzzsaw and hitters and exhaust😂😂😂

[@ElectricBillAlbright]

Bigger displacement always overrules!

[@leskelly5783]

I dont care what sounds like. I care about what it can do. ​@user-wm3fc1sk1p

[@NickTarterOKC]

I own an 04 Ram and it doesn't feel underpowered to me at all. It tows great. It has no problem in traffic. Plus, my 4.7 has 301,250 original miles on it at the moment. Parts are cheap. It's super easy to work on. Not too shabby in my book.

[@NickTarterOKC]

Also, it had 295 lb ft of torque, not 265. Torque is actually really pretty good.

[@TheSavage3.6]

@@NickTarterOKCNewer ones came with 330-345.

[@Acc0919mc]

There was also a 4.7HO released first in the grand cherokee in 2002. It was 265HP and 330ftlbs.

[@KyleGreenhow]

the 4.7l engine was used for 10 years in millions of trucks and SUV's, it gets lots of criticism for problems that are mostly because of poor oil change habits and using non oem parts on the valve train...the HO motor from 2002 was how it always should have been, the 2008 revision with 2 spark plugs per cylinder that could output 290 horsepower should have been the HO motor option. This is a case of (what i believe) a great engine being sold crippled because of the save the planet crazies...

[@andrewd.6072]

A thing that a lot of people miss to notice is how this kind of high cc and low hp engine tends to be the ones that just never dies. Sometimes is not just about power, torque or speed but even the durability of a motor. For example I have an ‘07 saab 9-3, 1.9TiD engine 8 valves with “just” 118hp, so basically a ratio of 60hp for every 1.0L, just the same as the engine that u previously mentioned, and guess what, that engine NEVER dies. Mine is reaching on 300K kilometers but it still runs and drives without issues and I know for a matter of fact that engines like this tends to last till 600/700K without too much problem. If I have to get a car to go around every day I would rather have a low output engine like these one instead of the shitty ones that can produce 100hp for every 1.0L but last less then 5 years if used🤷🏻

[@ElectricBillAlbright]

That's like my Chevy Silverado dually with a 496cu.in big block. It's basically idling down the road! The highest RPM it sees is 4500 RPM. You are better off letting it upshift when you get up towards 4500 RPM. 496 cu. in. = 8.1 liter Same theory with engines lasting a long time. Hardly working the engine in the sense of revolutions of the crankshaft. Less bearing and piston ring wear also valve train. However, it is putting out some power, just lower RPM. One of the reasons they use forged pistons to handle the extra power created by these beasts! 🤣 Like the Allison transmission behind it!

[@bradenblair9653]

You are aware of the high output version, right? Just like with Ford’s 4.6.

[@RogerDema07]

Mine makes 310 up. You didn't mention the second gen 4.7s. Corsair engine.

[@Supercharged287SOHC]

Those are crank HP not to the wheels but it’s more than a stock 5.3 LS did from 99-03

[@NXT_LVL]

Because thats what manufacturers advertise... by 2010 the 4.7s were dual spark plug per cylinder like the Hemi and made 300+ The 5.9 that was in the full size Rams of the 90s made crank 250/345tq thats why the 98-03 Dakota RTs were such a missile. 3600lb truck with better driving dynamics than the SS454 or even the Lightning (that needed a blower)@@Supercharged287SOHC

[@DakotaJaegle]

@@Supercharged287SOHC 5.3 is more than half a liter bigger. My 2003 4.7 jeep is a rocket compared to my 5.3 2005 silverado

[@adonvonpanzern3480]

“Never made more than that” The 4.7 HO in my dakota : :|

[@theremin665]

Sleeper truck, does yours have the r/t limited slip differential too?

[@klikliks_service]

I'm not a chrysler fan. Where I work the 4.7l outlasts hemis. All the 4.7 engines are working on 300k. The 5.7 blew up way before that.

[@southwestvajeeper5106]

You're definitely on to something there. My Dad's 4.7 WJ had 337k miles. Saw a 4.7 WJ for sale the other day that had 473k miles; asked the owner about it and he assured me it was the original engine. Although I have heard about and seen some high mileage HEMIs, they don't seem to be nearly as durable as the good ol' 4.7s at the end of the day. Between the cams giving out and the expensive exhaust manifold gaskets blowing out, the HEMIs can be pretty unreliable and expensive to maintain.

[@TheSavage3.6]

@@southwestvajeeper5106That’s because the 4.7 is extremely overbuilt for the power it puts out. It’s made from a closed deck compacted graphite iron block/bed plate and can take just about anything you throw at it. This guy in the video is a moron and has no clue what he’s talking about. Later model Corsair variants of this same engine produced 310 HP and 330LB FT of torque, and around 320-325 on e85 which they had the capacity to use from the factory. They were also significantly detuned to make the hemi look better, with a tune, you can expect to get 50-60hp more out of a 4.7 already making 310HP.

[@ElectricBillAlbright]

This horsepower rating is done at around 4500 RPM and for a small displacement V-8 that doesn't have a red-line on the factory tachometer because it's more than capable of exceeding the 0 to 7000 RPM tachometer in dash. For a small displacement cranking 235 at 4500 RPM is actually impressive. The fact of horsepower per liter is not a benchmark standard. The other engines being compared are measured at various RPMs. Crank up a 4.7 to 5500 and lets see what you get! The Chrysler Powertech engine is actually a well made engine and is reliable. As long as you run synthetic oil in them. Just as any V-8 the two middle cylinders on each bank have the most heat. Where the two exhaust ports exit the head. This causes massive heat in the overhead cam bearing tower above this area. The oil cooks into sludge and can eventually cause the oil galley port to the bearing to starve for oil. Resulting in bearing seizure and camshaft breaking in half. Synthetic oil doesn't do this and doesn't create sludge build- up. The timing chain system for the two single overhead cams is pretty bullet proof. Three timing chains. One goes from crankshaft to an idler sprocket located where a conventional cam in block design would be. From this idler is a chain going to one cam on the head. Another chain goes to the other head's cam. Very reliable and simple design. No belts stretching and breaking. They did have problems with exhaust studs breaking causing exhaust leaks at cylinder head to manifold. Due to dissimilar metals heat expansion rates. Most of the time the studs break where you can remove them with your fingers. Rarely need an Easy-Out and drilling. I think the replacement studs/bolts are upgraded to a different type of metal and you shouldn't have the problem again. It's not an engine disabling problem, just makes exhaust ticking sound when cold mostly. Otherwise these are very good reliable and powerful engines. 👍👍👍

[@NXT_LVL]

lol if you only look at the stock peak numbers. People in the know throw later yar HO Cams, Intake and a superchips tune. No redline because its factory limited to 5800, SC Tuner will raise it to 6000-6500 and add about 20 numbers to both side throughout the range. Like everything if youre look for more power you dont just sell it and buy new, you upgrade. Unless youre a "Bought not built" person

[@clodge5196]

What about using synthetic blend?

[@ElectricBillAlbright]

@@clodge5196 it can help but it doesn't eliminate the problem. Synthetic blend is usually 50/50 Synthetic and traditional oil. The problem is that traditional oil builds up sludge especially in areas of extreme temperature causing the oil to be cooked onto metal surfaces. It repeats this causing a build-up in the oil passages making them smaller diameter until it's completely clogged or severely starving the bearings of oil lubrication. Using full synthetic you won't have the build-up. Synthetic oil is strange, it's actually made from natural gas. I don't know how it's made but it seems strange that it is made from natural gas. I often wonder why it's called "synthetic" if it's derived from natural gas. 🤔 🤷

[@dukedixon3192]

I had a slick touring sport truck look 2008 4.7, four full doors, wide 22’s, tinted, lowered a little with a roll pan and fiberglass tonneau cover and a turn down exhaust that sounded NASTY! It wouldn’t outrun a hemi but that truck was no slouch. it would scream when I asked it too, break those tires loose and slide with enough mojo, and she handled the twisties like a sports car. You could hear that truck from a mile away. I’ve heard people talk down about that engine but I loved it. The same way I love my Toyota 4.7 v8.

[@legoegoman]

I think It made more or at least feels like it made more we have an 02 and when it was running and you laid on it it'd push you back in the seat

[@Connor4x4]

The 4.7 never felt underpowered to me. Hailed loads of dirt nicely. I was so upset when work got rid of that truck.

[@steveburlingame1935]

Did u know that there was a supercharged version really hard to find also my truck 280k miles and still going

[@usMarinecuv902]

The 2008-2011 made 305hp. A bunch of people commented this on the original video and not only did you not correct it, you repeated it....

[@Supercharged287SOHC]

You mean 2008-13 but those are to the crank hp

[@CarlosRojas-oy7pm]

310hp

[@Supercharged287SOHC]

@@CarlosRojas-oy7pm esos son caballos al cigüeñal no a las ruedas traseras

[@usMarinecuv902]

@@Supercharged287SOHC yeah I forgot they still had the 4.7 for 2 more years, but yeah all these numbers are crank. It's just misleading to shit over something and not even be correct about it.

[@hanzgrueber145]

There’s a high output variant that makes a lot more power. It’s actually a pretty good engine, my buddy’s Dodge Dakota trx 4x4 has the HO 4.7

[@gang-yc4je]

i have the 3.7, and this guy is kind of a clown for the video lmao, the 4.7 is very torquey especially for the dakota

[@shaneOlive]

Let me correct this guy. 2003 4.7 made 235hp and 300trq. The HO 4.7 made 255-265hp 300-330trq. 2009 and up 4.7 made 300hp and 305-315trq.

[@redlight3932]

Gonna be honest if you got a 60s or 70s shit box any of these motors have tons and tons of potential just gotta know how

[@joshuatracy4829]

It's a jeep motor and was designed by amc originally, it isn't a bad motor for small trucks and suv considering it could get 10 to 20 mpg and had good low end torque

[@CactusJack252]

I had a 03 dakota with the 4.7 making 230HP. That truck was not fast but it sounded great and never let me down. It was one of the few vehicles I regret trading in.

[@b33b1m0v3]

The reason is because they really wanted to promote the hemi. Imagine a non hemi with the same hp as a hemi.....use the logic. Later on after they put hemis into EVERYTHING they showed what the 4.7l was capable of.

[@thespacedpirate]

Fuckin wild that the 4.7 makes less power than a 318 from 1998.

[@mrextremegaming3765]

I loved my 4.7 when I had my ram

[@LatinaGaming88]

The 4.7 was a very good engine for the amount of emissions shit on them

[@chadgardee1496]

These are in the car rating tho right so more at the crank?

[@toddsilverman1244]

Love mine. 2008 180k no problems yet. Oil change intervals Is key!

[@aeoo371]

You said you already flamed Dodge then you do it all over again!! WOW!! Do you have something against Dodge? BTW those numbers go out the door on the flex fuel engine!! I ran a lot of E85 and that was no 285 hp! The damned thing would growel! Back during the Obama years when gas prices went crazy I could buy E 85 for $ 1.20 cheaper so I ran strictly E 85 for quite awhile. I also changed the plugs to NGK over the junk champion ones and that helped.

[@h.b.2130]

HEY my truck is that exact model you put on blast and it’s a great truck with good power and a nice sound (I’m joking, it’s a good truck but what’s the difference between the 4.7 magnum V8 and powertech?)

[@MidnightPolaris800]

You arent too smart, in 08 the 4.7 made 310 hp in the ram

[@YourMomsHouseRN69]

Yeaaaah but in the RCSB Dakotas those motors actually moved those trucks around pretty good.

[@TrentonThomas627]

The last year for the Dakota had 310hp

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

Thought they made it a torque monster, nope, wonder what they stretched the powertrain warrant to now.

[@KellIChlanda-vk3iw]

4.7 wasn't there best engine. But it was as good as Gm. N. Ford

[@TheSavage3.6]

The 4.7 was easily one of the best Dodge engines.

[@Ethan-mn9gi]

Aye my old 05ram 1500 with a 4.7 has 240k miles on the original engine and transmission and it ain’t let me down yet

[@joshuaerickson2458]

So much hate on the 4.7. It was replaced in the lineup by a v6 with horrible torque so I hope you are happy

[@jordanmercredi3740]

Mines still rips most people cant say that about their hemis or 5.4 tritons

[@chevydmax237]

The 4.7 made 300lbft of torque

[@southwestvajeeper5106]

That's right. This guy can't get his facts straight. He also said the 4.7 "never made any more than that"...also a lie. The 2008 revision bumped the horsepower into the 300s range and torque was even higher!

[@jamesunknown6016]

All current V8 Engines should have 400+HP

[@Kappaonsticks]

Shit I got a 2002 jeep grandcherokee 4.7 v8 shits going strong

[@thighgamingalexo28]

BMW v8 in the 90s: 4 litre v8 with 286hp

[@Supercharged287SOHC]

The 4.7 can do 700+ whp when built right

[@deraldo313]

Mine came with 230 hp and 380 ft lbs of torque

[@carolriley9392]

This guy is kinda hard on stock engines. What does he want for a base model priced truck? 500 hp? Sure...

[@JoshiJosho-mf8oi]

My 2004 4.7 ram has plenty of power to do what I need it to do.

[@cabelas807]

I have a 2015 with the 5.7, and a 2004 with the 4.7, and I agree 👍💯

[@fry.master]

“Never made more than that” total lie. There are several versions, it’s based off an old AMC design that was setup for dependability

[@southwestvajeeper5106]

Exactly right. First gen 4.7 made 235 HP and 295 LB-FT of torque, with a boost to 305 LB-FT in 2005. The second gen 4.7 bumped HP up into the 300s and torque in the upper 300s. The maker of this video needs to review his facts! And besides, this engine has a lot more to boast about in terms of reliability rather than power and performance. It's not a slacker when it comes to performance, but not being the strongest engine is part of what enables these things to hit 300k+ miles with zero rebuilds. Looked at buying a 4.7 WJ with 473k miles the other day. The owner said it was the original engine but was finally having its first major problems at that high of miles. That's one solid engine!!! And these engines are super easy to work on, too. I just pulled the heads off of a project WJ I bought in July. Everything is straight-forward and so basic.

[@DownHillgamer]

Hey ive got over 200k on my 02 dakota sport with the 4.7. Good motor, not as good as the push rod 360 but she can run

[@Supercharged287SOHC]

That’s wrong the 99-07 did 180 WHP stock the 08-13 4.7 did 230 whp stock and when it’s modded you get a 700+ hp beast

[@mr.memeist2928]

Any ideas I can do for my 2003 dodge durango with the 4.7 for some power?

[@Supercharged287SOHC]

@@mr.memeist2928 cheap mods Ported throttle body Ported intake manifold Aftermarket intake High flow mufflers like flow master outlaws On a true dual 3” pipes 08-13 4.7 cams (higher lift) More costly mods , 4.56 gears Ported heads 3000, stall Shorty headers Custom tune Expensive mods, Custom long tube headers Forged internals Upgraded heads Single or twin turbos ,supercharger,nitrous Ford 9” rear axle ,46re trans swap with upgraded internals with manual valvebody

[@olliejabooty6777]

Lmfao at how the video nor anyone in the comments mentioned how a massive 5.9 v8 Chrysler put into their rams and 98 grand Cherokee’s made a whopping 245hp

[@jaymoney119966]

The crazy thing this guy didn’t even mention is the fact the 3.7 made 10 horse less… same gas mileage too….

[@AmericanFarmerHVAC2024]

My 2001 was great until it finally blew. It was nothing for that thing to wax chevy 5.3s and 6.0s in a drag.

[@joshuayammer1994]

My single cam j30 3.0L vtec v6 in my accord makes 220 crank stock lmao

[@neilwhitmore]

Damn he got so much shit wrong in this lol, the 4.7 was produced up until 2013. in 2007 the high output made 265 horsepower and in 2013 the 4.7 made a respectable 300hp

[@nickd.7267]

That was pretty impressive in 1999

[@bryanst.martin7134]

Look at you, pronouncing torque figures correctly!

[@biggiemediumz]

Modern "car guys" think anything less than 600 horsepower is dumb. Hense why cars will never be affordable anymore

[@southwestvajeeper5106]

He didn't even get the torque output right. Yes, 235 HP. But it puts out 295-305 LBS-FT of torque depending on vehicle. That was the early gen 4.7.

[@jaidenglass4421]

So you're telling me, it is bad because it isn't powerful? What happened to an engine being bad because it is unreliable?

[@brandonsasser360]

It actually made 295 ft lbs of torque, which was more than most domestic v8s at the time.

[@TheSavage3.6]

Made 330

[@ryanmasterson2885]

2009 Chrysler Aspen has 303Hp

[@NXT_LVL]

lol a 4.7 in Dakota is completely different experience than in a 5500LB full size truck. You then comparing a SOHC to a Pushrod? lol way different dynamics my 04 QC Dakota weighs right around 4400. Dakotas with the 4.7 could weigh as less as 3700 in standard cab trim... lighter than the full iron head/block 5.9 Like the RT was with 250 hp and 345tq and the 4.7 made 295tq. NO WHERE on the internet is anyone saying it made 265tq at the crank... Ive had my 20 for 20 years and thats the first time I've heard 265.

[@squatchpnw2331]

My Ram has the 4.7L and yes it's kinda weak.

[@jasonrogers9169]

Uhhhm wait my dakota 4.7 with cold air intake and polished throttle body would smoke 318's and most 5.9's whatever h.p. rating dodge claimed. Why chrysler stopped after market perormance parts for these engines as they were race ready from the start i dont remember but it was an engine that we never got to see its potential.

[@AJ_C300]

My stock v6 make more than that and its a 2013💀

[@joshuascarpinski6593]

You missed the 3.7 that has poor performance

[@Supercharged287SOHC]

The 3.7 and 4.7 are the same except -2 cylinders

[@lamontbest1693]

Foot pounds