The 5 PERFECT High School Recruits. Where Are They Now?

[@deronellington]

Jeff fisher killed Vince Young’s career like he did so many others.

[@leo29hornsfan]

That’s an understatement. I saw VY play in high school and my god I thought that I saw god playing QB. Being stationed in Norfolk I saw Michael Vick’s brother play and I thought that he was amazing, until I went back to my home state and a friend that I was stationed with said Vick Ain’t shit though Marcus Vick is a five star recruit there’s a QB from my hometown of Houston name Vincent Young. This dude is on a whole other level. I said ok dude I gotta see this to believe it and he’s committed to Texas. He’s the #1 recruit in the country. As soon as I saw him play I was like Woooow this guy might be the best high school player that this country has ever seen.

[@TheAmazingPearl]

No.

[@DerekT860]

Yep. He refused to play him when they were on a six game losing streak. The owner had to force Jeff's hand and Vince almost got them in the playoffs. No one ever remembers that though. Fisher always want Matt leinart instead and never gave Vince a chance.

[@flugamenastyedits24]

Facts. VY gets a bad rep in the NFL but my guy was solid.

[@jackman9035]

deronellington big facts! Fisher is one of the worst qb coaches in the NFL

[@QazJer]

Nkemdiche just one of those talented athletes who doesn’t care enough about his sport and got by on his god given gifts

[@SlyLyfe]

Both of his parents were doctors as well so money was never an issue

[@ericramming]

Nkemdiche was lazy,uncaring, selfish, unintelligent, unmotivated and uncoachable. I pray he turns his life around. The video of the Scottsdale police blowing coke off his mirror after being pulled over in his Corvette for criminally speeding with a suspended license.

[@thatguy2440]

you should have a 5 star rating after knowing how to spell nkemdiche. Also, yeah you're right

[@denisvenegas5882]

No way he ran a 4.5 if he has was really 6-4 285lb. Maybe hand time, but not laser.

[@stpaulimdog]

He probably didn't care about money either.

[@tkmorame8498]

it’s funny how the lady on the 911 call described him as being in his mid 30’s when he was maybe 21😂

[@jlvp23]

I had a cop stop me and say I fit a description for a suspect that was 36, I was 14 😂

[@derpyderpy2923]

@@jlvp23 that's tuff

[@SJM6791]

Dude, he looks a lot older than he is. It’s dark, he’s high as fu*k, and the guy is 6’5” and 290lbs. Give her a break!

[@QazJer]

He don’t look like other 21 year olds lol

[@ddf5878]

Black people are regularly described as being older than they are.

[@jsn23nc]

Vince Young won Rookie of the Year and had a winning record as a starter. Jeff Fisher didn't like him

[@matth3002]

Fisher should have LOVED him! He made Fisher look better than he was.

[@jacksonmaxwell4756]

Vince young was to much of a damn Deva and dumb as hell and never had the hurt to play thru injury

[@vegasraiders1166]

Young was a head case dont blame fisher , Vince wasn't mature enough for the pressure

[@billylove2926]

Ha. Looks like a lot of other coaches didn't like him either

[@themr.hickspodcast5204]

5 stars are largely just physically advanced at a young age. Coaches tend to be blind to the red flags when it comes to talent. It becoming apparent that the things that make a great HS player and the things that make a great pro are very different. The kids that had to study and learn skills are better off because they learn how to work towards greatness instead of relying on talent. In the pros everyone is big. Everyone is fast and talented. Now you've made it the whole way without the character and discipline it takes to be a successful professional.

[@donovanrieman3592]

*cough* *cough* Bryan Breese

[@tracyjohnson5023]

Antoine Hicks very well said! HS give these guys passes on everything including behavior off the field! I taught HS and I believe in helping kids but we’re doing nothing for kids if we don’t teach them to work for it! Very true that lots of these guys more physically advanced young. Off subject but talking talent Iverson was #1 high school senior in basketball AND football!

[@adamallison3685]

Many 3 stars prove this every draft

[@Ryan-jx4vh]

Adrian Peterson was one of the most hyped recruits of all time. He crushed it at Oklahoma and the NFL. Some of these guys live up to the hype. 💯

[@CorazonV1]

Just like derrick henry

[@ryanstaylor6433]

2/3 star recruit is so much better because you don’t have to constantly worry about literally everything.

[@mcwhitela2]

Exactly!! Just like 4th, 5th round and undrafted NFL players are better to me as well. IMO

[@jewelz6028]

When High School "Freak Athletes" take the next step in their quest to play Professional Sports, they themselves have a "boom or bust" moment. These kids were superior to other kids, not young men wanting to do the same thing that he does. Teens superior to other Teens is not a freak, they are blessed to have matured faster, then they hit college and your tested, you either have the drive/ work ethics to be great or you stay a HS Sports Freak.

[@bigd22686]

K Martinez it’s a figure of speech like it’s raining cats and dogs, neither one is meant to be taken literal

[@jonjohnsonreads8292]

K Martinez this; I played college football; you see it all the time

[@soysauce9296]

Idk why he keeps getting referred to as like this generational talent when guys with his ability are a dime a dozen in the NFL. He matured fast, and was a man amongst boys in high school, but had already peaked by the time he reached Ole Miss. Nothing new here.

[@jewelz6028]

@@jonjohnsonreads8292 Didnt play but was nationally recruited for the class of 2001. I'm glad somebody is within voice of reasoning on this subject, yes there are special talents (Gifted athletes), that you see all their abilities and it makes you sit back and appreciate them. You can identify these players in HS and know they will play Professionally.

[@jewelz6028]

@@soysauce9296 Exactly, Nkemdiche was great in High School and Never fit the Bill for the Rebels (also that class of theirs was nuts, Nkemdiche, Tunsil and Treadwell). You cannot tell that was all done on the "Up N Up". It's like I said in High School, if your blessed you will dominate, but in College you have to work hard to achieve greatness, if you do that, you'll get Drafted, but too many players get to the College Level and all of sudden, people are Kissing your feet cause your the Big Man on Campus, there are 65-80 others putting in that work right next too you.

[@drewschieman1741]

I’d be happy to even be considered a recruit, even if it’s like 1 star

[@willbendel4109]

Jmo 421 offers?

[@tnguyen403]

You're either unranked or two stars or higher. There's no 1 star.

[@dangerruss6823]

@Jmo 421 false. Only two stars or unranked. catch me on saturdays at Louisville

[@sneekypete8296]

@@dangerruss6823 what's your jersey number? I'll be at Floyd st. and Central ave rooting for you. Go CARDS!

[@dangerruss6823]

@Jmo 421 lmao got called out on your bs bud

[@ericvidrine2644]

Vince Young...National Title and Madden Cover athlete made the pro bowl..... not sure about that one because as a recruit not a pro he delivered by beating an all time great team

[@DerekT860]

Fisher successfully tarnished that man's career just like he did Steve McNair. Fisher always wanted Matt lienart and even was forcing Kittles to play over Young

[@jonathanbrown436]

I totally agree and he was ROOKIIE OF THE YEAR! and was a pro bowler. This dude doesn't have a good gauge of what a good player is.

[@csortof]

I played QB for the Archer Tigers when Nkemdiche was in high school playing for Grayson (our rivals). His presence is for sure felt on the field. Every play he’s right on your ass. You never see him coming. The ball snaps and all of a sudden you’re hit by a train and you’re sitting on your ass. It’s such a shame that his career didn’t play out like many people believed it would.

[@realrobh]

Vince Young ... watching him vs USC in the National Championship was one of the most amazing things ever

[@jasonhunter3158]

Sims played 8 seasons in the league and he called the man a bust.

[@michaelbrooks241]

I was saying the same thing. What more does he want. Lol

[@nathansalmi1617]

He 5.5 sacks in his career only one interception. After Detroit he wasn’t good at all. You’d expect way more out of a person as hyped as him

[@tyrann2926]

Nathan Salmi he still got his millions

[@marvinvirgil4262]

Fr bro they call it bust I call it a huge accomplishment

[@badchick5000]

@@nathansalmi1617 HS hype means little when it comes to pro success. Most don't even dominate college. Sims playing nearly a decade in the league is about as much as you can hope for. Most players are gone after 3 seasons

[@jaron_a_mo]

“He only lasted another 5 years in the league...”

[@couchcaptain9379]

Considering the average NFL career is about 3.3 years...ONLY 5 more years is not the best way to say it.

[@jmw2899]

That's the exact SAME THING I was thinking when he made that silly "5 more years" comment! Sims played for 8 seasons and Clowney is STILL playing. Not sure what this guy's standards are for a "bust", but you can tell he is someone that never played sports at a level higher than High School.

[@jesusshuttlesworth9728]

Sounds like the football version of jxmyhighroller

[@ParkerBai92]

Rashan Gary was extremely disappointing during his time at Michigan, 9.5 sacks in three years combined and never showed any improvement whatsoever

[@GraniteYeti]

I agree as a huge Michigan fan I was so excited when we got him and Peppers. Neither I thought lived up to the hype. And why can't we get a QB? That school in Ohio seems to have 3 every yr that could put up Heisman winning numbers.

[@justtimes9257]

Parker Bai facts

[@mailman1790]

Russell Drew Peppers was a unanimous All- American, Heisman candidate, B1G DPOY, 3x All-American, B1G LB of the year, 1st rd pick, and won the Hornung, Lott, and Rodger-Dwight awards. I can get being disappointed in Gary, but Peppers is one of the greatest wolverines of all time

[@YoutubeGM206]

Exactly!

[@chrisworkman9390]

He was so over hyped

[@karealsmiff2685]

Nkemdiche was playing RB in high school, he played both sides of the ball until his Sr season. Imagine tackling that joker as he runs the ball

[@maxdeborde6772]

Damn bro your vids are never bad i have yet to actually see a bad vid by u keep making great vids

[@alato8057]

Clowney is definitely a top 3 defensive end on the Seahawks.

[@stevendehoyos2999]

People acting like 5 star recruits should be NFL HOF’ers haha. Just making it to the NFL is good enough, most don’t even pan out in college.

[@stevendehoyos2999]

All the guys in the video made it to the NFL and were drafted in the first round. I would say they lived up to their HS expectations.

[@TheJasonJackson84]

I think the biggest problem is when people assume that success at one level of football or with one team will automatically translate to the same level of success, if not higher, at another level of football or with another team. When you graduate high school and you go on to college, people think that because you are taking the talent and skill that you had in high school football to the college level that nothing else matters when that's no where near the truth. A particular coach sometimes brings the best out of you and when you move on to a different level or team and that coach is no longer around the motivation regresses somewhat. A particular scheme may suit you perfectly, but the world doesn't revolve around one person so when you are inserted into a different scheme that may not allow you to rely only on your best strengths as a player, performance may decline. Mental clarity is easily achieved in particular environments and in particular timeframes in life for each individual. The game of football is 80% to 90% mental. The prime of an individual's physical capabilities occur at a particular timeframe in their life. Injuries play a factor, big and small injuries. I think it's unfair to expect players to be as dominant as they are no matter what team or level they are on. The human element is beauty in sport. Tom Brady threw 30 tds in 29 games at Michigan, very mediocre, which is why he was a 6th round pick. He was much better at the next level. And vice versa.

[@danielfenning3902]

Every QB is a system QB I seen it my whole life Peyton Manning running a shotgun offense and calling his own plays was great to watch then you put him under center and have him run a West Coast offense he looked like he lost it and couldn't play anymore, all these QBs all these QBs success depends on the system and if there skill set fits it that's why any smart coach should either draft qbs that fit there system or change there system to fit there QB

[@JoeyMetcalf80]

Classic case of overinflated egos... People hype these guys to extreme levels that they often think they will just cruise through at the next level.

[@curtiskd7005]

Love ur vids man

[@dalemcneil43]

8 years in the league isn’t exactly a bust

[@DaCuseMC]

Another banger from Dee. Man is killin it

[@dechonsoplas]

Thanks for keeping the info coming

[@thatboydre8649]

Pressure is something you put on your self so it depends on your mindset

[@thatboydre8649]

What’s with running backs and down south

[@ben9262]

This may sound bad but it traces back to slavery. Slaves were selected based on their physical prowess and their ancestors carry on those genetic traits.

[@thebossman4864]

Why am I just now subscribing to your channel?

[@azcards941]

Nkemdiche a chump, still pissed we drafted him.

[@WickedWayne57]

Vince Young was definitely not a bust, he just had a really bad coach that didn’t believe in Young Quarterbacks

[@409yattaman]

I remember this guy he got drafted by Arizona never heard from him since now

[@jaye0819]

The biggest thing by a mile is your attitude. Physical gifts definitely help, but the brain is what separates good from truly great. A good stable family life helps a lot too. See Patrick Peterson, dad made him sit out of football until he got his grades up.

[@flip-trepreneur3657]

Willie Williams out of Carol City is the best high school player in History do a video on him.

[@antrellhopkins3263]

Willie was the truth coming out of high school thought he was goitto get it going at Miami..

[@brandonjones557]

Kimdechu should have stayed with his pledge to Clemson. I think that would have really helped him.

[@ivanmartinez4184]

Some players peak in college in terms of skill and talent, and others go undrafted and become hall of famers because they kept getting better

[@falleng2392]

I wouldn’t say Clowney’s college career was amazing...after his big hit playing Michigan In the bowl game, he was cemented as the number one pick. That hit and him being so highly rated in high school locked him in as the number one pick in the draft. His junior year was lackluster and has never been great in the NFL. He’s already on his way out now

[@CertifiedPG]

Robert Nkemdiche never ran a 4.5..... keep these videos factual

[@Trackstar159]

How do you consider Ernie Sims a bust if he had 3 productive years and played an additional 5 seasons afterwards? Not living up to expectations does not = bust

[@fredleeland2464]

Yeah, it's not like he was taken #1 overall, he did his work

[@williamrobinson6457]

My friend stayed in his neighborhood and always boosted about kmidche being the shit in school. He grew up in a nice ass Area. Sad to see his story. Hopefully he'll bounce back.

[@nodabot]

Why the hell would u move Clowney to DE? No doubt he has thrived on defense but rushing for an average of almost 4 touchdowns per game is spectacular. Especially considering he did it as a freshman. If its me I am keeping him on offense. He looks like he could play tight end at any level. Maybe his team had plenty of talent on offense. IDK. Maybe I wouldn’t have this opinion if not for Derrick Henry, Jimmy Graham, ect. Hell I wouldnt doubt it if he could play anywhere at any level but I would like to see a 2 TE set with him and Cam Newton catching passes from Drew Brees.

[@kdavis1239]

Had Robert Nkemdiche’s mother not step in and steered her son to Ole Miss and let go to Clemson like he had originally intended he would live up to his potential given how Clemson has produced D-Lineman since 2010.

[@brotherLee340]

True but I think he wanted to play with his brother. Fact is he just didn't want it enough. He had a good career at Ole Miss but just not the right attitude

[@michaelklein95]

Jeff Fischer=QB killer

[@BiGTiMeCA]

Good video! Only thing I disagree with is that Rashan Gary underwhelmed at Michigan, and did not live up to the hype. Still think he has promise but not as a stand up edge rusher.

[@AFirst20]

I know this was a throwaway line but what’s so polarizing about Zion Williamson?

[@BombzofJager]

Imagine if Clowny worked like Jj watt

[@BloodFeitan]

That 2015-16 ole miss team was legendary

[@darronwilliams4641]

Y? They accomplished nuthing. They beat bama. Woopdy doo

[@BloodFeitan]

@@darronwilliams4641 they won the suger bowl and it’s not about what they accomplished that team had probably one of the greatest recruiting classes of all time and a big 3 on offense in Chad Kelly laquon Treadwell and laremy tunsil and one of the most dominant college football has seen

[@darronwilliams4641]

@@BloodFeitan u have a weird definition of “legendary”

[@andys.9996]

@@BloodFeitan lol that team wasn't that Great

[@rodneyking8896]

Nkemdiche never learned any kind of technique at the 3T. No counters to when his bull rush was stopped and played with terrible leverage. All the physical talent but he stinks.

[@stevenasante8662]

@Future Society Of Gentlemen Exactly. His biggest problem is that he didn't love the game, and he didn't need or want it

[@brotherLee340]

@Future Society Of Gentlemen those are his parents. No him. I bet he was richer than both of them as soon ass he signed his contract. Dude legit had mental issues. Is what it is tho

[@charsedwardsiii6081]

Ole Miss had them 💰 men working. Remember how many guys was on that team that were accused of taking money or transferred because of that

[@ssbmwaddles]

Vince wasn’t a bad player, he got caught up in the business side of the nfl with marketing himself instead of bettering his present for his future. He’s one of 2 titans qbs with a .600 win rate in the last 20 years

[@vanessathatchick9014]

The problem with gifted athletes like this you can never tell there heart or drive. They are so much better than everyone else you have no idea of there work ethic.

[@ES99242]

Being from Grayson it’s sad to see rob waste what he’s got. Knowing him when I was a kid and having a signed pic of him it’s hard to see. He was the best

[@carljacobson7156]

Sims was a very fast, mobile BUT small linebacker - Sims didn't have a thick bone-structure. it's hard to take on those blocks against 300 lb Offensive linemen when you're weighing less than 230 lbs. He would probably have been an effective Strong Safety

[@gambaylor8689]

6:10 man does not look human

[@wholesomecomment45]

Hot Take here: Marcus Mariota is a bigger bust than Vince Young.

[@DerekT860]

At least Mariota got a fair shot...Fisher literally had it in for young the moment he was drafted. Young actually did have better success too. I'm not sure why young is considered a bust but not half the other USC QBs that came to the league and stunk it up

[@griffinellison3409]

If Gary and Robert chose Clemson their careers would’ve been elite.

[@davidbeasley5960]

Griffin Ellison facts

[@PO-nd1bb]

Bull shit, you have to want it as a person first don’t matter where you are at..

[@griffinellison3409]

@@PO-nd1bb Uh yes the hell it does? People are largely a product of their environment. That’s just facts. Shit like this doesn’t happen or at least is way less likely to happen under the proper watch, guidance and surroundings.

[@gorillamafia5144]

It dosen’t matter how high you get drafted at the end of the day if your not willing to put in the work non of that stuff matters your god given talent will only take you so far

[@Mov_N_Dej]

As a packers fan they need to switch to a 4-3 and gary needs to stay a d-line and not a linebacker

[@zachcoates2056]

The higher level these guys go they don't need hype they need coaching and mentoring. Potential is only as good as the guy that'll bring it out of em.

[@TheRodFarva]

Rashan Gary is another example of how Michigan does a poor job developing players. I’m sure Michigan fans will respond with how he was a 1st round pick but what did Gary actually accomplish on the field at Michigan?

[@dirtycee6887]

You are 100% correct! Michigan's irrelevance goes back to poor coaching and even criminal player development! Until someone in Ann Arbor demands excellence on the field from the coach....the program will continue to fade of the national map!

[@roo4051]

Went to high school with the Nkemdiche brothers. They were good but they liked to party a lot

[@goodstar8631]

Yea that was robs problem he never actually wanted to play ball he loved the attention he received from being a star athlete but he really just wanted to have fun. Being that big as a young age everyone around him kinda forced him into this role

[@aidans4588]

That picture on the left on the thumbnail isn’t peele from that key and peele skit?!?! I’m astonished

[@MrRJC1991]

Sims was a beast in Madden

[@yigyountry]

How was Lawrence not a perfect rated recruit, crazyyyyy

[@andys.9996]

Because ESPN rated Justin Fields as the higher Rated player.

[@iwishiknew10]

Deechee turned it on and off at will. He would destroy you one snap and then took 3 plays off. Sad. His brother was a crazy good lb at ole miss, both head cases

[@couchcaptain9379]

Nkemdiche, and 8000 other guys who failed out of every major American sport should serve as more than enough warning that character is the most important attribute an athlete can possess. Physical skills mean literally nothing when their choices keep them off the field, and their are hundreds and hundreds of examples of guys hood winking everyone by being physically gifted, when their personal lives are an absolute mess. Why coaches and front offices keep falling for it is beyond me.

[@dc7236]

This video show the difference between basketball and football recruits... In basketball all these guys would've had an easy route to pro level and big time endorsements and a long career. But in football the actually make try to prove you are worthy of those big titles

[@vitg6569]

Nkem had a chance to go to Clemson. Would probably have better technique. Was disappointed when he decommitted. Glad he didn't go cause in hindsight the Clemson defense of 2016 didn't need him. Ryan Carter and Wayne Gallman were hs teammates that were way more productive and vital to the 2016 NC Clemson Tigers. They were 2 and 3 star recruits.

[@meta_world_pierce5326]

Kemdiche went to school in the next town over from me Grayson Georgia

[@careful7951]

I don't consider Vince Young a bust. He just was in the wrong situation.

[@DerekT860]

Same. I mean he still won a Natty against one of the greatest college teams of all time and won ROTY...Fisher literally did everything he could to hold young back so he could get someone else and it was obvious after the Titans lost 6 straight games with Collins the owner had to make Fisher put young in and they almost made the playoffs.

[@macalloway1]

A 8 season career in the nfl is not a bust

[@PBandzz5]

Love that video also first it comment

[@nickeddy1823]

As a michigan fan, the hype was bigger than the production for Gary. Not gonna say he was worthless by any means. He was solid. But much like every year our recruits get over hyped then under coached and end up average

[@bengodwin3541]

Nkemdiche has went to Clemson like he was supposed to, things would have went a lot different, Clemson preached character like no other school.

[@SekaPlaysPubg]

Anyone recalls Marcus Dupree? He even had a 30 for 30 show about him. These guys had more boom than him. But to be fair he did play for a lil tiny bit. Least he made it.

[@terryjones662]

Can't measure heart and mental makeup...🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️💯💯💯

[@darronwilliams4641]

U can tho, scouts jus fall in luv wit size n overlook everything else

[@DaDualityofMan]

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

[@troysmith958]

In high school my coach used to tell us that everyday buts its 100% true

[@aaronlopez3585]

Anytime you try to live your to life to please others you will be miserable and none productive and end up hatting what you love.

[@soggypotatoes4755]

When he said he fell 15 feet to the ground i got cod ad

[@SpacemanOutbound]

It's easy for anyone who 6'4 285 to be a beast in high school.

[@NarwhalMantheResurrection]

Nkemdiche was a bust, but biggest waste of talent? Ehhh, I don't know about that. Waste, yes, biggest? Won't go that far. And Ernie Sims was good for a few years, so that's not the biggest waste. As for Vince Young...we can blame Jeff Fischer, who deserves all the blame he can get (not only for being a bad coach, but also for being a dirty coach), but Young had his own hand in that. He didn't want to be responsible until it was way too late. All of this pressure talk is true, but he also didn't go about his business the right way, and he still struggled on the field in reading defenses and memorizing his playbook. I mean, the guy talks about how hard his life was-but there are so many other players that went through (and go through) all of that too. Look at him at USC, you'll see similar stories-but the difference is that in college, Carroll was lenient and lax with his players. Fischer was not. I mean, it's not like Fischer made Vince spend thousands at Cheesecake Factory, did he? Young is talking about his "brand", but come on, my friend. It's football. You have to be mentally tough. I get it, people shouldn't take disrespect, but you want to be the best. You should carry yourself better than them if you're better than them.

[@BrandonTube6632]

Being from Tallahassee Florida Sims wasn't really a bust in College he did good. I'll take him over the rest of these players outside of maybe Clowney.

[@Macdaddy.]

There’s a lot of pressure on the 5 star recruits to do well.

[@HeavyHitta_83]

I wouldn't call Sims a bust. 8 years is a decent career even though he could have been better still not a bust. I'm a wolverine fan and I've never been so excited for a recruit but Gary played down to his skill

[@bobyrd4386]

Man I hate seeing shit like this, when so many other people including me would give so much to just have a chance in their situation and they just throw it all away. Shits pathetic..

[@mauriceball4608]

When you try to live up to someone else expectation you will always fall short. Sims played 8 years in the league, that's a good career, when the average is 3.

[@Frèshh]

Lmaoo she said idk mid 30's 😂😂😂

[@runninrebel1520]

You knew something was up when picked...Ole’ Miss????

[@92alpha13]

Fisher destroyed vince chance. Fisher didn’t want him and that was that!

[@isaacgomez5684]

@Goatbe Bryant You're a fucking idiot lmao

[@jonathanbrown436]

@Goatbe Bryant - I don't know man. Rookie of the year, Pro Bowler...Considering the number of guys that never do that, I think the guy had a little game.

[@shunpreek79]

@Goatbe Bryant you stupid!!

[@isaacgomez5684]

@Goatbe Bryant That's exactly something a fat, unathletic, bitch, nerd would say. Your sports card was revoked the moment you said VY was shit lmao you take more Ls them USC

[@Pswizz0]

Being freaks of nature with unbelievable talent dont mean a thing if you domt have work ethic a man who has both and proves it is aaron donald that's a freak 4.6 40 and killed the reps at 285 and produces every season that's a bad man.

[@jaymartin4166]

As a former pro baseball player and this is just opinion. Many players in a variety of sports fail to understand this is a job and the harder you work at it, the better you will be. I distroyed my shoulder and I was done, finish school before moving on. Nothing is promised for tomorrow.

[@DaDualityofMan]

WHat team did you play for?

[@shanef06]

if you have opportunity jump at it, opportunity comes and goes but school will always be there

[@gerardoliver1787]

@@shanef06 good point

[@leanieardmacon2778]

You forgot about Reuben Foster

[@FatBoyBlunts]

Graduated with Clowney he was a monnnnnnnnster in high school especially while Gilmore was playing

[@2SloppyJoe]

Vince constantly talking about his brand was the problem. He gave himself this belief that he was already a star before proving anything.

[@isaacgomez5684]

VY was in no way bust. Obviously his college career speaks for himself but even in the NFL he did better than most QBs who go through the league. Really good winning percentage, ROY, and pro bowler. He wasn't great but don't act like he wasn't set up for failure by his shitty coach

[@DerekT860]

Fisher tried his absolute hardest to handicap young. If it wasn't for the owner fisher wouldn't even play him

[@derricknichols5465]

The last guy needs to go back playing the defense end position not OLB

[@wholesomecomment45]

I mean, in Clowney's case.... In a redraft he's definitely not a top 2 pick, maybe a top 10 or 15 but will definitely not be drafted before Mack or Donald.

[@macalloway1]

Gary is more athletic than Clowney but he doesn’t necessarily know how to play

[@michaelbarker7365]

Imagine Vince young going anywhere Jeff Fischer wasn’t coaching

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I forgot how good Vince young was