I'm a boxing practitioner myself but I love Karate, this is one of the most beautiful yet direct and functional martial arts there is when is properly taught and practiced. Karate doesn't work for real life?, ask the guy with the gi covered in blood if he didn't feel the strike. I wouldn't ever dare to mess with any of these guys, they are for real!. Love Karate for ever!.
@tuahakhbar2 ай бұрын
becaus it's not WKF but JKA 😁
@victorribeiro24312 ай бұрын
@@tuahakhbar ITKF and IGKF got real bangers too, not the gi-fencing thing.
@Peter-rg4ng2 ай бұрын
Boxer and Karate-ka. You are right on my friend. 👍
@lorenzochukwuebukaobi8898Ай бұрын
@@tuahakhbar WKF made me question karate 🤣
@jansenjuan98002 ай бұрын
I am a 2nd Dan in JKA. Watching this kumite makes me proud being part of this association. Ossu!
@nicklubrino26062 ай бұрын
Why isn’t there any kicking?
@jansenjuan98002 ай бұрын
@@nicklubrino2606 in JKA kumite we prefer punches than kicks because punches can reach the target more quickly than kicks.
@nicklubrino26062 ай бұрын
@@jansenjuan9800and there’s no punching to the face, right?
@TheUmmahFightCamp2 ай бұрын
I started training in 1975, at the age of 14. Back then, we had no pads on hands or feet and full contact to body, light (yea right! lol) contact to the head. This is now the only karate I can tolerate.
@nicklubrino26062 ай бұрын
This is point Karate. A point is scored when a punch is delivered to the chest. Then, the referee breaks it up, and there’s no punching to the face. This is why Karate doesn’t work in real life.
@kermit12112 ай бұрын
This is more beautiful to watch than WKF's kumite. Glad I discovered JKL
@WadeSmith-oe5xd2 ай бұрын
I'm rewatching this, and both of these guys have been trained very well. They both use open hand guards because open hands are faster than closed hands and easier to block and punch from. This is probably the best 6 point system fight I've ever seen.
@LilaKaiTV2 ай бұрын
I agree with you 👌🏽
@kartella2 ай бұрын
actually 4 point (half point - wazari) or two full point (ippon) only in final match. Previous match are shobu ippon: 2 wazari (half point) or one ippon (full point).
@MontyGeffen2 ай бұрын
Good control timing speed important
@edpone8600Ай бұрын
These guys have skill. I noticed that one of the guys (shiro) has cauliflower ears too. I suspect he does BJJ, Judo or MMA as well.
@Ivan-qs8tw3 ай бұрын
Woow! Love JKA! This is real karate!
@LilaKaiTV3 ай бұрын
I agree with you! 👊🏽🥋🥋
@etrijuni2 ай бұрын
Agree! I think WKF should adopt JKA's kumite rules.
@Ivan-qs8tw2 ай бұрын
@@etrijuni WKF is too corrupt to accept true karate..
@tuahakhbar2 ай бұрын
@@etrijuni WKF so soft but still ok, anyway JKA is the best
@johanaffandi98762 ай бұрын
Kyokushin is the real Karate not this.... oaaa oaaaaa oaaaaa.......
@johnfoster56163 ай бұрын
Great karate I'm a 3rd Dan black belt in wado-ryu and I notice the style.of these 2 sensies great kumite they are doing
@WadeSmith-oe5xd2 ай бұрын
I am only a 1st Kyu in Isshinryu karate, but I WOULD be a third Dan if i didn't keep failing the kata portion of the test. I used to easily beat the 2nd Dan black belts at full contact fighting. Guy probably broke his nose right there, but he stayed in the fight. That punch was legit, and it didn't help that he misjudged it and stepped into it.
@lesgo36162 ай бұрын
@@WadeSmith-oe5xd "I am a brown belt, but I would be a third degree black belt". The delusion is so real that it's almost hilarious.
@juniorpontes87272 ай бұрын
Oss também sou do estilo Wado Ryu , da organização Wado Kai.
@bodybuilderschickensnortht61212 ай бұрын
This was a real good fight one of the best I have seen in awhile
@hectorlopez48382 ай бұрын
Es muy grato ver este Kumite al estilo de la vieja escuela. Si protección en las manos, ni en los pies y pecho. Técnica depurada y muy buena , velocidad. Exelente. Estoy feliz de ver a estos dos combatientes. Arigato.
@LilaKaiTV2 ай бұрын
I agree with you. I guess you’re a karateka also? Oss!
@use3rerererАй бұрын
What a speed. WOW. Shotokan has evolved a lot.👍
@davepersich30352 ай бұрын
Proper kumite, a joy to watch. You have to remember that these are holding back, striking with control. However there was still a bit of blood spilled. In a self defence situation, one full power strike would finish the opponent . Ippon. That is what they train for. It was often said that our blackbelts didn't like training with the brown belts because they hadn't developed proper control yet and were likely to get hit.
@blaz12352 ай бұрын
Great Kumite , fast and hard ..but still control👍👍
@salvatoreshotokan2 ай бұрын
They are really fast , nice kumite !! Oss
@fregatbrilianto-ms3jlАй бұрын
This is the REAL KUMITE...FAST ,POWERFULL AND STRONG
@kennethrogers11292 ай бұрын
In competition I always hated those forever moments waiting to fight….in the 70’s and 80’s black belt was controlled strong contact, 2 points for head kick, one point punch, . Controlled medium contact for colored belts. We wore protective gear.
@tommystevenson29212 ай бұрын
excellent referee
@noelkelly338Ай бұрын
imagine the damage these two could do if they wern't worried about points. Im a 3rd Dan JKA. These two are fierce and brilliant.
@peacue74312 ай бұрын
Outstanding! My name is 'Dan'...I've outranked myself. 🥋
@LilaKaiTV2 ай бұрын
Oss! You should continue your karate training 😊
@Patrick-sheen2 ай бұрын
Excellent match
@chunhuonggoh20552 ай бұрын
This is 100% KARATE fast, hard n in control 👍
@prasadmunasinghe36513 ай бұрын
The real karate. Fight like tigers .Oss
@WadeSmith-oe5xd2 ай бұрын
What is this? Point knockdown rules? The highlights at the beginning was better than the video I was just watching for Olympic qualifiers.
@LilaKaiTV2 ай бұрын
The highlights in the begging are their elimination round.
@yassuoyoshida1282 ай бұрын
look at their belts so wear out almost White you no mess with these guys
@amarethan424211 күн бұрын
Where was this?, whas it in the takasaki arena?
@leso2045 күн бұрын
Why does the ref break up multiple strike combo's ?
@efficientguitar3 ай бұрын
This is very good ol´karate tournaments like the ones where you had Yahara sensei, Abe and all the other guys that practised under Nakayama sensei (I still have a few of his books). Why was 7:05 an Ippon? I clearly see a clean tsuki but not more than that.
@LilaKaiTV3 ай бұрын
Because Hirose sensei has 1 point already. 2 wazaari means ippon.
@efficientguitar2 ай бұрын
@@LilaKaiTV ohhh ok he counted the previous waza ari I did not know that they counted like that, back ikr n my competition times the judge would only count the actual points but would be "doing the math" in his head, so to speak. It confused me because I thought he did something that I couldn't see. Thank you.
@LilaKaiTV2 ай бұрын
@@efficientguitar no worries at all. 🙏🏻 Oss!
@oingyboingybob15 күн бұрын
2 quality Shotokan Karateka at their best. I thought this type of competition was long gone however thankfully I am wrong. Shame there were so many empty seats - I'd have gven my left nut to have been there in person...to watch, definitely not to compete! It's quite a few years since I stopped training and I have no idea who these 2 competitors are so more detail would be nice.
@unclejoe79582 ай бұрын
Scoring points like this reminds me of Kendo.
@GibNR_2 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@wallyllaw2 ай бұрын
Kendo is actually one of the influencers for JKA kumite. Just one of those, but maybe more significant than is often known. Gigo Funakoshi, son of Gishin Funakoshi was practising also kendo and laido. That effected the cautious approach, relatively long stances, long distances and techniques to cover that long distance quickly.
@unclejoe79582 ай бұрын
@@wallyllaw Interesting information. I can the correlation. Thank you.
When you're training to score a point by just touching your opponent, you're effectively taking the combat out of the combat sport. These bad habits ultimately erode the real world effectiveness of the practitioner. What's the goal here? Shouldn't a Black Belt be a representation of ones battle readiness? As these guys lunge for their points they frequently find themselves awkwardly out of position and vulnerable. Unfortunately, there are never any consequences for such sloppiness because the action is generally stopped at that point. The rules and practices of this sport serve only to ingrain terrible habits within the practitioner that will sabotage their ability to deal with a real world empty hand contest.
@rubendumdum52652 ай бұрын
The name of the game is speed, control and distancing. The opponent is not your enemy, respect is important in this regard. If you think you are that good try JKA so that you will know.
@pinkydavis61132 ай бұрын
@@rubendumdum5265 I know what I can do, guys like you generally don’t. Also, I’m familiar with all of your talking points and they don’t hold water. The fact remains that people who prepare for these tournaments are developing bad habits because of the rules. I’m not shitting on Karate, i just think it should look like Bas Rutten’s, Combat Karate concept. None of these point-karate black belts could hang with those guys in a real fight.
@jasonjelf93342 ай бұрын
@@pinkydavis6113 perfection of character
@victorribeiro24312 ай бұрын
Go and tell this to Lyoto Machida 😂😂😂
@andreasjauss38382 ай бұрын
@@victorribeiro2431 Probably the best answer here. LOL. I did sports karate in first league in my country 30 years ago and it was absoulutely no problem to stick a real enemy the fist into the throat in the same controlled manner as for stopping it 1 cm in front of the chin for a sports companion.
@ЮраЦой-ю1т2 ай бұрын
Есть своя прелесть в старом сётокане!
@SatyadevThapa2 ай бұрын
Exilent I'm bhakbaet ni Dan of gojuryu karate
@Ivan-qs8tw3 ай бұрын
what was the knockout at the beginning? Waza-ari or Chukoku? 0:11
@hakumilua29423 ай бұрын
You mean waza ari, chui or keikoku?
@LilaKaiTV3 ай бұрын
Keikoku
@brucemoose9262 ай бұрын
You should watch Kyokushin and Enshin tournaments. Full contact.
@LilaKaiTV2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comments 👌🏽
@wallyllaw2 ай бұрын
Kyokushin is really nice, but funnily enought pretty much all those punches which these 2 gentlemen did would be banned in Kyokushin, as they were targeted on head. I found it interesting that in this particular match they didn't try to kick, or really throw the opponent. While punching is much more common than kicking and throwing in JKA, all of these are perfectly legal.
@david-pb4bi2 ай бұрын
When I did Karate back in the 1970s it was all reverse punch now it is all jab (gyaku-zuki , kizami-zuki).
@alexdalcol48002 ай бұрын
Muito obrigado por isso. Oss
@gwine90872 ай бұрын
Nice to see traditional kumite, not that bouncy crap.
@Pifagorass2 ай бұрын
Point karate with kicks to legs?!
@wallyllaw2 ай бұрын
Area between knees and hips is not allowed in shotokan free kumite, but you can do kicks or rather hard sweeps under the knee.
@СергейСмирнов-п1я3п2 ай бұрын
Нужно быть чуть чуть снисходительны,Это молодые студенты Времена Когавы,Яхары,Нака ушли.
@bob-io9rh23 күн бұрын
more fun if they really fight
@rogerchin40512 ай бұрын
it was ok, both of them missed a lot with the gyaku zuki
@LilaKaiTV2 ай бұрын
That’s normal because both of them are good. Watching the video and in person is way too different.
@carnevaliandres249712 сағат бұрын
BAD REFERRING equals BAD RESULTS. No matter how good or bad the participants were. OLD SCHOOL SPORT non sense!
@BarbaraGarcia-q2j20 күн бұрын
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@Pifagorass2 ай бұрын
Sorry but doing hikite as ask for the point is bit lousy 😅
@johanaffandi98762 ай бұрын
Oa..oaa...oaaaa do nothing.....
@david-pb4bi2 ай бұрын
Not true, this is points Karate at a high level. Who wants brain damage?
@uslyn2 ай бұрын
they don't use gloves?😢😢 thats a violation of international rules and dangerous.
@LilaKaiTV2 ай бұрын
JKA Karate been doing this for years since the beginning.
@LilaKaiTV2 ай бұрын
This is All Japan championship. But when it comes to world cup of course we’re using gloves.
@snehasishdutta13582 ай бұрын
In real fight you don't have any gloves or gard
@victorribeiro24312 ай бұрын
JKA, no gloves at all, and in competitions that use gloves, only white gloves and mouth piece as protectors are allowed.
@enguagn2 ай бұрын
I totally agree as well as contact does not mean automatically Hansoku.
@PaulGappyNorris2 ай бұрын
It’s awful.
@ИгорьХарченко-р7з2 ай бұрын
Nice technic and strong dinamic. I understand, i have 3 dan WTKF