The 8.2L Cadillac 500 Was The Last Of The Old Big Blocks

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@The_R-n-I_Guy
@The_R-n-I_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I just love the low rpm torque of big American V8s. Especially the big blocks. You don't need to rev high when you can pull a stump out of the ground going uphill. In 3rd gear
@teme5529
@teme5529 2 жыл бұрын
Depends what you want. I love high revs too. Well, both options are good.
@mikewallace8087
@mikewallace8087 2 жыл бұрын
Torque comes from long stroke . 292 was a stump puller.
@ClwnJuNkY
@ClwnJuNkY 2 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of a High reving V8 . But you are right about the tree stump pulling power of low end torque
@gulag_dt
@gulag_dt 2 жыл бұрын
and them huge v8 can't be killed easily
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 2 жыл бұрын
The limitation on stump pulling isn’t torque… it’s grip. The pony motor on a D2 Caterpillar will probably pull a stump out.
@Terraceview
@Terraceview 2 жыл бұрын
All the people saying it could make XYZ power but heads suck etc... they were made to have huge torque at very low (1500-3000) rpm. To make them "fast" defeats the purpose. I much prefer one of these beasts than any new whiny turbo engine. It's basically a truck engine in a very big car, awesome!
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 2 жыл бұрын
If GM had pushed the displacement of the Caddy big block to their usual limit, it could have grown to 600 cubic inches.
@rancon265
@rancon265 2 жыл бұрын
chevyperformance sells a zz632 crate engine.
@captain1334
@captain1334 2 жыл бұрын
@@rancon265 its cheaper to build the caddy motor and get the same power
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 2 жыл бұрын
@@captain1334 WHAT? No. You cannot build a Cadillac V8 to the same cubic inch or power as the Big Block Chevy for the same price. There are NO aftermarket blocks for the Cadillac. So other than a 0.060" over bore or 0.100" on an excellent block and maybe a custom crank your are not getting many more cubes out of the old Cadillac. You can easily make a 502 Chevy for cheap with a junkyard block. Or you can start with an 8100 (496ci) and throw a cam at it and make more power than a 1970 500ci Cadillac. It will also last longer and rev higher thanks to the far superior oiling system of the Big Block. Don't get me wrong though. I would much rather see Old Cadillac modified to make big power under the hood of a classic rather than a Big Block. But the reason Big Blocks and Small Blocks (LS/LT included) are so popular is because they are cheap, plentiful and well supported.
@importsstillsuck
@importsstillsuck 2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffmooregm dude you're worse than the other guy. You're just making shit up.
@lukeheigle494
@lukeheigle494 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been dumb because that’s just taking away vital material for a bigger combustion
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL 2 жыл бұрын
My mom had a Bimini beige '77 Coupe de Ville with the 7.0 liter/425 cubic inch version of this engine. It couldn't get out of it's own way with only 180 hp on tap! By the way "Bimini beige" looks pink in bright sunlight; I used to hide behind the C pillar when I rode in that car so that none of the other kids would see me in it... Great video!
@Edik0704
@Edik0704 2 жыл бұрын
American engineers after building a 7.0 liter engine with 180 hp and with 3 mpg: 🧠🤩
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edik0704 THAT is what you get when you allow "bean counters" or accountants run your company. Short term profits, and no notion of how a shoddy product erases a consumer's desire to do future business.
@iant720
@iant720 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edik0704 Wrong thats what happens when GOVERNMENT INTERFERES
@trentdawg2832
@trentdawg2832 2 жыл бұрын
Smog choked them out…..add some compression and remove all the smog equipment im sure that same motor will make 400+ hp with 10.5:1 compression minimum
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL 2 жыл бұрын
@@trentdawg2832 400+ gross horsepower, yes. You have to understand that what Cadillac was aiming for with this engine was... 1. Bragging rights: You have the biggest engine in the neighborhood, and... 2. Something that approximates an electric motor. Very smooth and lots of instant torque. It is rare for a traditional Cadillac engine to rev above 3500 rpm. I laugh when I see old Cadillacs with growling V8 exhausts; Cadillacs were SILENT. You weren't supposed to know it was even running. It just oozed down the road, kind of like a boat moving down a canal. Modifying one of these for performance gets VERY expensive very quick, if you can even find an aftermarket part.
@automatedelectronics6062
@automatedelectronics6062 2 жыл бұрын
The Cadillac "Big Block " continued until 1984 in commercial and factory limosine service. The engine was reduced to 6L in 1980.
@briandavis8064
@briandavis8064 2 жыл бұрын
My parents had a 1976 Cadillac Eldorado with the 500 V8 in it, and it was bulletproof as far as powetrain. My grandparents drove Lincolns exclusively and the 460 was smooth, quiet and powerful as well. For my money, the best of the GM big blocks was the Pontiac 455. Overall, the Chrysler 440 was probably the hardest to beat. Ford's 460 definitely held its own well.
@fransmith8992
@fransmith8992 2 жыл бұрын
ah, you know what you are talking about. and the old 440 chryslers had a bad factory cylinder head design. aftermarket cylinder head added gobs of power.
@5litreho
@5litreho 2 жыл бұрын
The Cadillac 472/500 cu in engine displacement was reduced to 425 cu in in 1977, displacement was reduced again in 1980 to 368 cu in. These smaller displacement engines were of the same engine family as the original 472. The last real big block Cadillac was the 1984 Fleetwood Limousin with 368 cu in engine...
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 жыл бұрын
Those 425-368 were decent engines. Deactivate that 8-6-4 crap on 81-up though haha
@marko7843
@marko7843 2 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely correct, especially about the commercial chassis lasting 3 years longer than the passenger cars. Unfortunately, by 1977 they were all gutless wonders due to the emissions controls, camshafts and tall axle ratios... I wish I could have driven an '84 limo to see if they came up with a better EGR valve & software for the mechanically robust V8-6-4.
@FirebirdCamaro1220
@FirebirdCamaro1220 Жыл бұрын
​@@johneckert1365 only the Fleetwood Limo/75 had the 8-6-4 VD, the Commercial Chassis used a 4 Bbl carb
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 2 жыл бұрын
If memory serves, I believe it was Cadillac who first used the pedal layout we all know now, with the clutch on the left, brake in the middle, and throttle on the right. Before that, pedals were like switches - in whatever order manufacturers decided to position them (a common layout before this was to have the throttle in the middle and the brake on the right.) Not sure exactly why other manufacturers copied this layout, but it soon became ubiquitous.
@paulieramos
@paulieramos 2 жыл бұрын
If memory serves, I believe you just ripped off an article......WORD FOR WORD in the june 2012 hemmings. You probably cannot pronounce ubiquitous, stop trying to kick knowledge.
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulieramos Post that link, then - lets see if there's any credence to your "WORD FOR WORD" accusation, pal. I first heard about it years ago, while watching Jay Leno talking about old Caddys. And ubiquitous isn't that uncommon a word - it's actually rather...ubiquitous?
@elgoog7830
@elgoog7830 2 жыл бұрын
I may have missed something in the video, but, are you saying Cadillac had/used a stick shift in some of their cars?
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 2 жыл бұрын
@@elgoog7830 Before automatic transmissions existed, of course they did. Back then, _everything_ had a manual trans - or something even worse (I'm looking at you, Model T!)
@elgoog7830
@elgoog7830 2 жыл бұрын
@@aussiebloke609 I wasn't thinking about how far back Cadillac goes, completely overlooked that. Any idea what the last model caddy was, that had a manual transmission?
@DaveBegotka
@DaveBegotka 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! i had several 500ci's over the years....one in a CJ Jeep....lol....
@nojunkwork5735
@nojunkwork5735 2 жыл бұрын
At my engine shop, we did a lot of conversions of GM pickups and Suburbans from the 6.2 diesel to the 500-inch Cadillac engine.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome torque engines. 472 & 500 should've been in trucks, motor homes, etc.....
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
I’ll take the slug 6.2, my 85 suburban could barely do 70 and it took an afternoon to get there, but it got high teens low 20’s mpg. And it was a luxury barge, jet black paint and every option you could pay for, dual alternators, front and rear AC that got ice cold, I didn’t need to be in a hurry because the seats were softer than grandma’s couch. 😂
@the_car_guy5915
@the_car_guy5915 Жыл бұрын
​@@_..-.._..-.._Fuel mileage for you in particular doesn't seem worth it lol. I got buddies getting between 30 and 35 mpg with those engines.
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine inhereted an early 70s Caddy with a huge engine. It was fun watching him burn off the tires going down the expressway at 70mph!
@larryhullinger4141
@larryhullinger4141 2 жыл бұрын
70mph is nothing for those cars They can do 110
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 2 жыл бұрын
@@larryhullinger4141 Burning off the tires?
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, spinning them up faster than the car was going. Smoke pouring off of them at 70mph.
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 2 жыл бұрын
I had one and unless you were in snow this is not true
@nojunkwork5735
@nojunkwork5735 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Dog, if whatever you are smoking makes you hallucinate like that, pass it over. Those cars couldn't break the tires loose at 70 mph driving across a frozen lake.
@jfkastner
@jfkastner 2 жыл бұрын
A 1975 Eldorado convertible 500 cui was the first Cadillac I ever rode in, unforgettable sound & comfort ... the front seats swiveled a bit sideways to make rear entry easier
@richardschwarz7071
@richardschwarz7071 2 жыл бұрын
Most reliable airboat engine is the 472\500, built 4 and once together,I have never had a mechanical problem. Direct drive the propeller, change the intake to an aluminum edelbrock , shorty headers. Side note. The 472\500 caddy is 50-75 lbs lighter than a Chevrolet 454, 100lbs lighter than a Ford 460 or Chrysler Corp 440..
@303nitzubishi4
@303nitzubishi4 2 жыл бұрын
The engine family featured here was sold well into the 1980s albeit with far less displacement. The 8-6-4 engine was a big block and a sad ending to a once mighty piece of automotive history
@davidleary823
@davidleary823 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in about 84 getting my little 66 Baracuda 273 absolutely spanked by a big 4 door Cadillac that sounded like a vacuum cleaner. My freinds moms car
@Marc-so2cd
@Marc-so2cd 2 жыл бұрын
The Cadillac cars are so beautiful.
@Shaneosaurus_Rex
@Shaneosaurus_Rex 2 жыл бұрын
Cadillac was also the first car manufacturer to have the pedals in the current layout; clutch on the left, brake in the middle, and throttle on the right.
@danhuttinger5040
@danhuttinger5040 2 жыл бұрын
My wife and I had a 1975 coup divile with the 500 ENGINE great engine no problems at all smooth and powerful.
@samuelcoelho1609
@samuelcoelho1609 2 жыл бұрын
Very Well, this video! Rich in details!
@devinhiggison1198
@devinhiggison1198 2 жыл бұрын
All the people In the comments seething at the fact that their meme of American V8's being stupid and underpowered is actually false lol. These are some of the most reliable V8's ever made. And will, and can, handle some intense power mostly stock
@johnelliott7375
@johnelliott7375 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your bringing back these memories of old and days passed. I will say that you hit the nail on the head with this one and I know that there is a V12 in a private collection of a Cadillac running prototype but it will never see the light of day unfortunately. I have worked and rode and a friend of mine ended up with a Elderado and the way it run was just like the video. Off the line up to 3800 RPM nothing else touched it once at the second gear 3000 mark the other faster revving car would pull away. I have found a 1970 Coupe DeVille with 39k on the clock original car, I am going to make the trip of 2.6 hrs to go see it 472 as you stated I hopefully can obtain it at the right price. Only rust is on the skirts edges around the inserts on the back quarters. Otherwise just a little bit of rust where the vinyl was . I will let you know what and how this goes. Great day to you, I hope that you have had a great and Merry Christmas and I will have to wish you a great and Happy New Years and may you have a better year than last. Best wishes from the Old Steel city of Pittsburgh, PA. USA! God bless.
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, John. Good luck and Happy New Year to you too!
@johnelliott7375
@johnelliott7375 2 жыл бұрын
@@VisioRacer your welcome and I will keep you posted on what I do. Enjoy your day today. P. S., Good morning.
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
Steel town represent!
@danp7463
@danp7463 2 жыл бұрын
I like the heavy full sized car's. That's how an American car should be. But as time goes on styles change and it's easier to just add a supercharger or turbo in a smaller platform. GM did bring that engine back in the 3/4 & 1 ton trucks for people that need towing capacity, but didn't want a diesel engine.
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
The 8.1/496 was an updated 454 with cues taken from the LS series. Not related to the Caddy v8.
@Roddy_Zeh
@Roddy_Zeh 2 жыл бұрын
Great engine, a lot of potential.
@mikee2923
@mikee2923 Жыл бұрын
The huge caddy engines are awesome. They showed a glass of water sitting on the air cleaner. I had a 76 Oldsmobile Toronado with a 455 V8 in it that was smoother than the caddy engine. I did this test on my Olds and the water didn’t even ripple. My brother who was a long time mechanic said that was absolutely THE smoothest running engine he’d ever seen. He was a mechanic since the early 80s and he said this in the late 90s when I owned the Toronado.
@davidgrisez
@davidgrisez 2 жыл бұрын
The 1960s and early 1970s was a different era long before fuel economy requirements. That was the time when an automobile manufacturer wanted more power and torque, they did not do 4 valves a cylinder and no overhead cams and no turbochargers or superchargers. Instead for more power and torque automobile manufacturers such as Cadillac used a huge displacement, gasoline thirsty V8 engine. And this V8 engine powered a large, heavy, land yacht car that gave a quiet, smooth and comfortable ride. Those days are long gone.
@cwie2968
@cwie2968 2 жыл бұрын
Great video my friend. Keep them coming
@clinkerclint
@clinkerclint 2 жыл бұрын
Man, the video of that front wheel drive Cadillac doing that giant burnout is freaking amazing!
@marko7843
@marko7843 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah... In our '68 Toronado, I learned to close the windows before using more than 1/3 throttle off the line!
@rockguitarist931
@rockguitarist931 2 жыл бұрын
Some of these comments are hysterical, there are people making fun of the smog-choked big blocks like they weren't making 400+ HP ten years earlier...
@danielduffy4134
@danielduffy4134 2 жыл бұрын
I love your video’s!!! You so gotta do one on that Buick 3.8L V6 you’ve brought up a few times !!!! You have the best car videos on the internet….
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Daniel, I really appreciate it!
@RandyChan-o5q
@RandyChan-o5q 27 күн бұрын
Cadillac's 7 year run from 1970 until 1976 having the world's only 500 cubic inch engine was a tactic used against its main rival Lincoln which had a 460 cubic inch engine. This was the era of fierce competition between Cadillac and Lincoln and it brought out the best in each other.
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 2 жыл бұрын
2:06 that caddy sounds healthy!!!!
@davedifranco4033
@davedifranco4033 2 жыл бұрын
Now if If I could UNDERSTAND the speaker...this COULD be a good video!
@cyclical_water7719
@cyclical_water7719 2 жыл бұрын
did not expect this to be fwd
@RogueSabre
@RogueSabre 2 жыл бұрын
I miss my caddy. 2013 ATS 3.6 rwd. Fucker was a small, somewhat light, 321hp luxury rocket that I could put in auto stick. God that car was fun
@breakawaymotorsports
@breakawaymotorsports 2 жыл бұрын
You can still get the Chevy 502 from GM in crate form.
@Roddy_Zeh
@Roddy_Zeh 2 жыл бұрын
Even the 632.
@franklinhankel6168
@franklinhankel6168 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but you couldn't order one on your 1971 Impala
@Roddy_Zeh
@Roddy_Zeh 2 жыл бұрын
@DucknCoverin Taking that into account, even if limited production, I think the largest engine ever put in a production car was the Bugatti Royale's 778-ci (12.7L) straight-8...🤔
@Spectrolite1
@Spectrolite1 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love huge car engines 💪
@joseph.689
@joseph.689 2 жыл бұрын
I had the 500, 3x in various Cadillacs. True..., lots of low rpm torque.
@adamcampbell8794
@adamcampbell8794 9 ай бұрын
Nothing like putting the pedal down and feeling all of that torque
@raymondj8768
@raymondj8768 2 жыл бұрын
Great video bro i had a 472 engine in my caddy it was fast to it would smoke the tires lol !
@manelisimdakane4470
@manelisimdakane4470 2 жыл бұрын
Fast or torque-ey?
@raymondj8768
@raymondj8768 2 жыл бұрын
@@manelisimdakane4470 bolth they were really good engines not as torky as the 500 but not bad its a lotta car to move lol
@vidarborge6726
@vidarborge6726 2 жыл бұрын
By american standards , the 472/500 cu inch Cadillac engine block , is a compact design externally. The design is much closer to being a small block in it's dimensional size , rather than a true big block, when measured next to any of it's contemporaries, i. e Lincoln 462, the Ford 385 series , or Chrysler 413/ 440 RB. Even the second generation AMC V8 , although a medium sized block , is in there. The really big (!) block's physically by sheer visual presence, would be the Mopar Hemi's and the 429 FoMoCo BOSS , thanks to their wide head assembly. By far the LARGEST engine block I've seen in any automobile, would be the Lincoln 430 , of the late 50's. It's just HUGE.
@kalinandonov2799
@kalinandonov2799 Жыл бұрын
Could you tell how the modern Coyote Ford engines compare in physical dimensions with those big units you mentioned?
@jessebaca2750
@jessebaca2750 2 жыл бұрын
That Cadillac exhaust system sounds real rowdy / throaty 👍🏼
@manelisimdakane4470
@manelisimdakane4470 2 жыл бұрын
Cadillac used to be so innovative
@ragintaurusmusclemercury7023
@ragintaurusmusclemercury7023 2 жыл бұрын
I had a '70 Sedan DeVille with the 472 in it. It had an exhaust leak from a broken exhaust manifold bolt. Bought it for $500 cash and flipped it for $4000! Wish I kept it. 😥
@repete2362
@repete2362 2 жыл бұрын
oh yea the 500 csddy , guy on the rig crew had a caddy with the 500 other crew had buick with the 430 wildcat . it was a race down the kings highway caddy over the buick back when the oilfield was fun LOL.
@adamf663
@adamf663 2 жыл бұрын
I remember an ad from around 1999: "You're late with rent. Electricity is about to be turned off. There's no food in the fridge. And you just bought the gm 500ci v8. First things first."
@kylelaughinghouse1893
@kylelaughinghouse1893 2 жыл бұрын
I got '99 gm L18 old big block with modern heads , fuel injection.i put some aluminum heads and camshaft makes over 600hp and 800 lbs of torque on 95 octane
@danp7463
@danp7463 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive; but where do you find 95 octane gas? I know in some states the have 93 at the pump. In CA we only have 91 octane.
@kylelaughinghouse1893
@kylelaughinghouse1893 2 жыл бұрын
@@danp7463 Tennessee has 95octane and 98octane at certain gas stations
@calebwhite1454
@calebwhite1454 2 жыл бұрын
You are forgetting the 425 and 368 by Cadillac, as well as the 400 and 440 by Chrysler, 460 by Ford, 454 and 496 by GM, running to 2009
@digitalgulby
@digitalgulby 2 жыл бұрын
What about the 454 that was made well into the 90’s? It was a truck engine but that was considered big block. Also the vortec 8100 was its successor
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 жыл бұрын
Very true 👍 Ford also made thier 460 through 1998 in pickups, possibly longer in medium duty commercial trucks
@gasolinediesel972
@gasolinediesel972 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and no mention of the new ford 7.3l (although some would argue this isn't a big block) or crate engines such as chevy 632
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
He means in a car sense, the end of an era of bigger and better cars with gigantic engines. The Ford 7.3 gas is indeed what I would call a big block, it’s a little bigger than a FE series motor, it smaller than a 385 series like a 460. Great motor btw, I drove one in a utility bed f350 and it was awesome, growled so nice and the power off the line was insane.
@Kastro876
@Kastro876 Жыл бұрын
Imagine having 8.2 liters with 400hp to the front wheels....
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
In a civic 😂
@JosephCowen-fz8vj
@JosephCowen-fz8vj 5 ай бұрын
That Caddy single over head cam motor made it to Australia, in 1988 GM Holden wanted better performance from it's 304 ci and later 355 ci Holden V8, they used the Caddy over head cam head design on the 304/355 platform, the motor was so close to production it was installed in many Australian GM test cars ! In 2 valve and 3 valve designs ! There are many magazine articles on the over head cam GM 5.0 and 5.8 litre motors ! It's an exact copy of the Caddy design , GM Holden is part of GM so I guess that's not a surprise , !
@patrickshaw8595
@patrickshaw8595 2 жыл бұрын
I have put manually controlled 4-6-8 valve control gear on 500s a couple times. Throw a switch and it deactivates half the cylinders and then it only uses one half the carburetor. No computer at all. Just a toggle switch. Do you want to run on 4 cylinders or 8? Fine - select whichever you want !
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 2 жыл бұрын
Was it reliable with manual control?
@patrickshaw8595
@patrickshaw8595 2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffmooregm Yes. I never had a back fire or pop, hesitation or anything. Realize that it was an enthusiast's engine, though. Absolutely tight rings valves head gaskets. Standard HEI distributor in flawless operating condition. Spark plugs new clean and gapped .060." NOS Quadrajet for 1970 Elorado. PCV valve only, no charcoal can, no delayed spark or converters, AIR pump or reactors. The TH425 automatic (reverse rotation for Eldorado driveline) had been rebuilt for higher shift points firmer shifts and the entire ensemble installed in an unassuming '66 Corvair. I was tempted a couple times to link the "4-8" switch to the throttle but decided against it. I feel it should be operated as an 8 full time and only switched it to 4 on the highway. I didn't want to mess up my shift points, how much vacuum the power brakes wanted etc etc etc. Couple times I pulled the trans into manual low and put it in 4-mode and creeped along in traffic jams. Seemed to run cooler and had adequate power for that.
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Pretty neat that it can be switched on the fly so easily.
@patrickshaw8595
@patrickshaw8595 2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffmooregm Yes realize the intake manifolding of all ordinary classical V8 engines was "middle two cylinders on one bank plus outer two on other bank" connected up to one throat of a two barrel carburetor (or to one primary + one secondary barrel of a 4 barrel). So no airflow through left side of carb? No fuel gets pulled out those barrels. The distributor doesn't care that every other spark plug is dry and not lighting anything. Caddy's system fell down because it was paired with immature computer technology. Would have worked great on pre-smog engines. But gas was so cheap then that nobody wanted to buy a more expensive big engine to save some fuel. They just bought smaller engines - usually in smaller cars. Also - disconnecting the valves from the camshaft is easy with ("pushrod") Over Head Valve engines. It's pretty hard with Over Head Cam engines. And since gas got expensive nearly every thing is Over Head Cam now. Just in case you are interested I am thinking about how easy/hard it would be to adapt to Buick and Olds V8s. Looks easy ! With some work I think it can be done to Pontiac V8s as well. MAYBE to a small block Chevy. It definitely can NOT be done to a big block chevy or chrysler Hemi.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickshaw8595 that's awesome! GM should've designed it like you did, either 8 or 4, no choppy 6. Then they could've shut off 1 half of TBI. That 368 would've been FANTASTIC like that!
@ronreyes9910
@ronreyes9910 2 жыл бұрын
The Ford 351 Cleveland was the last big block developed (As far as "new" block designs). Largest displacement engine was the 510ci Chevy BB but it was only available as a crate engine. I think the Viper V10 was the first return of a "Big block" (Outside of truck applications) by any US mfg.
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
The ford 7.3 Godzilla gas motor is the newest big block in decades, true old school pushrod design and 425hp. So glad to see a ford big block again with pushrods.
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
Also. The viper was still based on the Chrysler LA series small block v8s from the 60’s that were in turn based on the heavier A series of the 50’s.
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
The Cleveland 400m/351c was a medium size block, much like the FE series engines.
@ronreyes9910
@ronreyes9910 Жыл бұрын
@@_..-.._..-.._ If there was such a thing as a "Medium block" I would agree with you because the FE was very small for a big block (Physically not much larger than a SBC). The Cadillac 472 came out in '68 which was the same year as the 385 series ford block (429) so if anything the caddy engine was a tie for the last BB. Although I would think cylinder spacing and deck height would determine whether an engine is deemed a small or big block I've never seen any specific criteria published by an automotive society to reference to.
@Smb-cm5ry
@Smb-cm5ry 2 жыл бұрын
Had one of these in a 75 Fleetwood , destroyed a pair of michelins doing a burnout across a four lane highway! Empressed the hell out of that cop watching me !!
@baltazard133T
@baltazard133T 2 жыл бұрын
Umm in the custom engine building world they have already taken Cadillac 500 blocks, slapped ls9 heads onto them and have put down well over 1200 hp, 1500 foot pounds of torque. Back in the late '60s early 70s drag racers used to take these Cadillac 500s, drop them between the rails of an old model A or model T, port the heads out by hand or swap them for some Ford big block heads and they were running the quarter mile around the 11 second mark
@Thinginator
@Thinginator 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I love hearing about engines cobbled together with parts from other engines. I wonder how much machining is involved for those cylinder head swaps?
@baltazard133T
@baltazard133T 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thinginator you can youtube search to find plenty of videos
@philiptownsend4026
@philiptownsend4026 2 жыл бұрын
Amazes me that cylinder heads were interchangeable between manufacturers engines.
@importsstillsuck
@importsstillsuck 2 жыл бұрын
@@philiptownsend4026 they're not...
@philiptownsend4026
@philiptownsend4026 2 жыл бұрын
@@importsstillsuck I sort of agree with you, it seems mighty improbable to be but that's what I thought I heard said here.
@christophercofer2192
@christophercofer2192 Жыл бұрын
Visio you need to do a solo video on the Oldsmobile Toronado
@TheDaroza
@TheDaroza 2 жыл бұрын
Did you mean to 450-460 hp for 1970 500
@jpwheel8999
@jpwheel8999 2 жыл бұрын
Cadillac 500
@rsmith3033
@rsmith3033 2 жыл бұрын
i put a 500” n a 3/4 ton chevy pik/up ! it wont pass a gas station, but when it does git on tha road pullin a 4 horse slant load ,u can pass goin up hill 😎
@olmstedfirsttwo-toneavanti4183
@olmstedfirsttwo-toneavanti4183 2 жыл бұрын
The First and last Packard V-8 of 1955 had the potential of 500 CID.
@yodasbff3395
@yodasbff3395 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting 👍.
@borla4491
@borla4491 2 жыл бұрын
Next. Do engines on the Lincolns
@blackericdenice
@blackericdenice 2 жыл бұрын
4:00 the drop in hp was because of a weaker cam.
@infernoking7504
@infernoking7504 2 жыл бұрын
So 8.2L means It should be capable of 820hp
@kensmechanicalaffair
@kensmechanicalaffair 2 жыл бұрын
More than that.
@dancurtis611
@dancurtis611 2 жыл бұрын
Cadillac was not the first major automaker to offer an overhead valve V8. Chevrolet was first, with the 1917 Model D. Also, Ford was the first to offer a V8 with the block cast in a single piece, in 1932. Neat video, though.
@eaglepointtactical8532
@eaglepointtactical8532 7 ай бұрын
Chevy was the only company to use big/small block designations for their motors. everyone else just used CI. even tho most of the car community uses those terms. technicaly big block/ small block only applys to chevy engines
@georgewetzel4380
@georgewetzel4380 2 жыл бұрын
This is incorrect; the 425 was introduced in 1977.
@mlp-hot-rod5824
@mlp-hot-rod5824 2 жыл бұрын
I would love for someone to build the Caddy V12s for crate engines. Hell, go to V16s if they can. In a time of overwhelming propaganda toward EVs, we need these engines to stay.
@michaeladams9641
@michaeladams9641 2 жыл бұрын
I wish these shorts would have people that could speak clearly
@mrbdx
@mrbdx 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 68” Impala SS 427 with a Big Block sitting in my garage right now. When I drive I can SEE the gas needle slowly moving to empty. 😅
@repete2362
@repete2362 2 жыл бұрын
my brother had the 68 SS 427 4 speed not impala though. i sold the air cleaner for it a while back don't recall the price .
@fxui
@fxui 2 жыл бұрын
We need a gm L82 video that is the best engine in Saudi 🇸🇦
@FirebirdCamaro1220
@FirebirdCamaro1220 Жыл бұрын
Technically the 368 was the final big block, it was on the same block as the 500
@mikewallace8087
@mikewallace8087 2 жыл бұрын
Big Block equals big mass / weight . More power in a smaller engine is wisest . We went to V6 and now I4 dominate power and economy . Less parts consume less energy.
@LocalAutist
@LocalAutist Жыл бұрын
also at the cost of reliability and drivability. A 300hp turbo 4 cylinder you're gonna be waiting for turbo spoolup for the torque to kick in, 300hp big block you have that power already on tap from idle. It's all a compromise
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
@@LocalAutistwrong
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@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
They have turbo inline 4’s with 300hp that last 200,000 miles with 30mpg. What more do you want? Yes they don’t sound great, but they’re quiet and torquey off the line, turbo cars aren’t what they used to be, they have boost immediately now and plenty of top-end. Too many people miss the shitty old gas guzzlers. I love random and exciting engines too, but for practicality, you can not beat modern engines.
@stevenhoman2253
@stevenhoman2253 2 жыл бұрын
It was Ford which introduced the first mass-produced V8, the flathead (44 HP) in the early 30s. Mass production does not apply to unaffordable and low run luxury cars.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 жыл бұрын
Mass-produced is Mass-produced. Yes Ford produced WAY more V8 than Caddy or Olds V8, but that doesn't make them the first. Caddy & Olds DID mass-produce cars with V8 engines before Ford, just not as many.
@richardluce775
@richardluce775 2 жыл бұрын
The marine industry is still using the GM 8.2 502ci engine
@falcorthewonderdog2758
@falcorthewonderdog2758 2 жыл бұрын
GM made the 8.1 496 cu in V8 in 2001
@foxtrot312
@foxtrot312 2 жыл бұрын
What was the GPM? Like 6? OMG 😲 it must have a least 45 gallon gas tank!
@Tom-wl9sx
@Tom-wl9sx 2 жыл бұрын
Really love this old cars with big engines. What's an electric car compared to this.......
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 2 жыл бұрын
these cars should be fitted with modern japanese isuzu diesel truck engines for added reliability for next 20yrs🐱👍🏿
@philiptownsend4026
@philiptownsend4026 2 жыл бұрын
They have gone the way of their brothers the dinosaurs and not before time. An atrociously wasteful period in transport history.
@Markcain268
@Markcain268 2 жыл бұрын
I love old cars too, couldn't bear swapping the engine for an electric motor as my love for old cars is based on their engines!
@jayartz8562
@jayartz8562 2 жыл бұрын
...efficient, comfortable, good handling, powerful braking and fast.
@philiptownsend4026
@philiptownsend4026 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayartz8562 Yes because they are modern and benefit from many new technologies. They will not have good handling in extreme situations because they are so heavy and inertia cannot be defeated. There is another matter. Many people feel that cars are more than just a travel appliance, they have character and soul and that comes from within the IC engine. The EV cannot compete with that. I doubt you will understand and will argue.
@TorqueTales-e4h
@TorqueTales-e4h 2 жыл бұрын
Make video on Truck engines
@herbienbrian2
@herbienbrian2 2 жыл бұрын
I say the Big Block is back with Ford's new Godzilla
@soggycracker5934
@soggycracker5934 2 жыл бұрын
No one tell Visio that 'the old big blocks', didn't go out of production...
@subymtdan6137
@subymtdan6137 2 жыл бұрын
Chevy still makes the 502 I'm sure Ford still makes the 460 and yes you can still buy Chrysler big blocks so the end of the big block is b*******
@andy123441
@andy123441 2 жыл бұрын
Gm still makes a 632 you can buy brand new from their website.
@philiptownsend4026
@philiptownsend4026 2 жыл бұрын
The end in production cars. Those crate engines must be for maintenance/replacement purposes. I doubt they are manufactured still so just "new old stock" available for clearance
@andy123441
@andy123441 2 жыл бұрын
@@philiptownsend4026 you’re wrong they are still making brand new ones they aren’t just new old stock in fact the 632 was just unveiled October of last year and will be implemented into the 2023 COPO Camaro.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 жыл бұрын
@@philiptownsend4026 I agree, the author of this video clearly meant "in production cars". He's still wrong though. The 425 and 368 Caddy engines were the same big block design as these, and the 368 was available through 1984. Also Chevy big block 496 were available in trucks/SUV through 2008 or 2009, and Fords Big block 460 was available in trucks through 1998
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 2 жыл бұрын
Lets put a Lexus Toyota 4 cylinder engine into a Cadillac and watch her run reliably for the next coming 50yrs! That way we can have a beautiful design of a classic car with economy and reliability that doesnt burn your furry pockets! 🐱👍🏿
@stewart8127
@stewart8127 2 жыл бұрын
They were using 454 cubic inch in the trucks till mid 2000s
@BKB0SS09
@BKB0SS09 2 жыл бұрын
How many of you guys recognize Richard Holdener's Cadillac 500 in the video?
@crippleguy415
@crippleguy415 2 жыл бұрын
I miss my Ghetto Cruiser with the 472
@Where_is_Waldo
@Where_is_Waldo 2 жыл бұрын
5:33 FWD? Damn!
@JoseGarcia-hf4wl
@JoseGarcia-hf4wl 2 жыл бұрын
Caddy should bring this motor back with modern tech (obviously) and drop it in an escalade as a track hawk competitor but GM would never let that happen as they are too scared
@meowexotics6516
@meowexotics6516 2 жыл бұрын
You have no idea what your talking about as this engine is not feasible due to emmisions standards nowadays but go on I wanna hear how gm is scared to do despite literally not being able to sell this engine due to government regulation
@JoseGarcia-hf4wl
@JoseGarcia-hf4wl 2 жыл бұрын
@@meowexotics6516 “modern tech” are the key words here. It would be sold as a high end sports trim against the track hawk. Caddy made their black hawk engine and it came out amazing. I don’t see why they can’t use that existing technology on a bigger motor. Running it N/A wouldn’t be a bad idea as it is a big motor and all that horsepower right on tap with no boost lag or boost drop off to ruin the experience.
@JoseGarcia-hf4wl
@JoseGarcia-hf4wl 2 жыл бұрын
Now give me your reasons please
@meowexotics6516
@meowexotics6516 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoseGarcia-hf4wl so first of all GM based that engine off af an existing platform the had for the Corvette and did almost nothing else. Did you ever think for 1 second designing a whole new engine to keep it for 1 model year is dumb the engine would have to be sohc with vvt and would have to be jammed full of technology just to make less power than the supercharged v8 already in the SUV. It's possible but as a financially viable option it's not due to emmisions regulations for 2025. Who's gonna buy a car with a more expensive but an engine that is slower.
@JoseGarcia-hf4wl
@JoseGarcia-hf4wl 2 жыл бұрын
@@meowexotics6516 you don’t know what you’re talking about. They could do it just fine
@tsopuaifa
@tsopuaifa 2 жыл бұрын
That was a stove for the house. :D
@themadscientest
@themadscientest Жыл бұрын
Back when American cars had good engines and ran forever, American dependability went out the window in the 80's and has yet to return.
@_..-.._..-.._
@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
I disagree, any new car is vastly more reliable than old cars. I hate when people forget how many problem cars used to have.
@MattBrownbill
@MattBrownbill 2 жыл бұрын
Back then, petrol was evil and had to be used up as quickly as possible. Bit different now. Just cost me £102 to fill my tank. Single figure MPG ratings would bankrupt me!
@jkoysza1
@jkoysza1 25 күн бұрын
Must support govt benefits and NHS with the heavy fuel taxes.
@MattBrownbill
@MattBrownbill 24 күн бұрын
@jkoysza1 who wouldn't support the NHS? We don't want to end up with private health profiteering from people's basic needs.
@jkoysza1
@jkoysza1 24 күн бұрын
I always strive to avoid medical mediocrity for the masses. Profit drives innovation and medical excellence.
@MattBrownbill
@MattBrownbill 24 күн бұрын
@jkoysza1 and segregates us as humans, which we all are. Two tier systems are immoral.
@fransmith8992
@fransmith8992 2 жыл бұрын
i had a 1974 eldorado ragtop that i used to tow a 24' big block 454 baha boat with. the caddy was rated at something stupid ,like 180 hp. but i never felt the boat on the back when i was towing it, at low and high speeds. and it pulled boats up ramps with ease. i thing they were underrating these motors. and by the way, they were actually 501 cu. in. not 500.
@giuseppec8158
@giuseppec8158 2 жыл бұрын
I think the last one was the GM 8100 in early 2000s 2500 trucks
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 2 жыл бұрын
"Callylack"
@alexnyan7055
@alexnyan7055 2 жыл бұрын
hi visio
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer 2 жыл бұрын
Hello
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor 2 жыл бұрын
and with it the Caddy still ran a 17 sec 1/4 mile
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor 2 жыл бұрын
@DucknCoverin its still a 17 sec 1/4 mile car!
@misterhipster9509
@misterhipster9509 2 жыл бұрын
No serious performance engine builder would consider the 8.2. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 жыл бұрын
That's not true
@misterhipster9509
@misterhipster9509 2 жыл бұрын
@@johneckert1365 OK, I'm listening, rave on.
@importsstillsuck
@importsstillsuck 2 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@misterhipster9509
@misterhipster9509 2 жыл бұрын
@@importsstillsuck Cast crankshaft, cast connecting rods, vey little after market support other than minimal camshaft options. Cylinder block lacks sturctural integrity, front structure/oil/water pump areas not suitable for performance applications. It's a great engine for a big luxo-barge, race applications, not so much. What's more the 8.1L Chevrolet light truck engine was the last real big block, and to this day is still the best power producer available to the performance community, period.
@importsstillsuck
@importsstillsuck 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterhipster9509 the crank is as strong or stronger than a forged crank, you can get custom rods, and the block is stronger than a big block Chevy block. What's wrong with the front structure?
@victorjohnson7512
@victorjohnson7512 3 ай бұрын
Low RPM engines last longer.
@Dr650rob
@Dr650rob 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the 8.2 was available in the suburban and the 496 in an avalanche
@abergethirty
@abergethirty 2 жыл бұрын
Driving a classic caddy in the dead of winter?
@larstragl146
@larstragl146 2 жыл бұрын
Must be excellent! RWD, long wheelbase, decent power,... What could one wish more?
@philiptownsend4026
@philiptownsend4026 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it was not a 'classic" when filmed. Just a disposable without any thought or care.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe just moving it out of his garage for some reason. Hopefully it didn't hit the road with any salt on it.
@brettcannon74
@brettcannon74 2 жыл бұрын
The 472/368 was not the 500.
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