The Absolute Ultimate Guide to the Psytrance Bassline (Old Version See Pinned Comment)

[@Projektor_music]

Updated 2023 version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raepcpqOZ8uGY5o

[@-A2-]

This is honestly the BEST & most comprehensive tutorial on basslines I have come across online. Thank you for taking the time to share the knowledge.

[@vogelvogeltje]

Dude thank you so much from a producer in Stockton, California. I don’t even make psytrance but some of the concepts you go over are like gold. You explain it well! Keep at it man.

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks for the kind words dude!

[@WoodenH0e]

You are the true MVP, thank you for taking the time and creating this video. It provides everything and more anyone could ever look for.

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks Man! Glad you enjoy the content!

[@Farleydrex]

This is awesome. Best tutorial on Psy basslines I've watched. Much needed video for the genre!

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed!

[@Ascended23]

Great video! A ton of channels out there focusing on “quick tips” but I really like your comprehensive style and how you’re focused on the big picture all the way down to the tiny details, and having it all connect.

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoy it!

[@moklaniirobotnik6327]

IMHO, GMS is the epitome of psytrance bass. I'm still trying to get that sound. It looks like this tutorial will bring us all closer to the Sun. Thank you Sir! 🙏

[@Projektor_music]

glad it's helpful man!

[@celdrichanfgarn5168]

Best base guide 🙌🏻

[@luschy-h6p]

Grazie man, this toturial was amazing it help me to go from 17 followers to 519 followers in soudcloud. It really added more energy to my tracks. Love from Germany!

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! I'll be working on a new version!

[@vaqeeero]

what a piece of work you have here dude! solid work! thanks for sharing

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! glad you enjoy!

[@MrXav360]

Men, I was reluctant to watch such a long video, but it was well worth it! Even though it's not the first video I watch on psytrance basslines I learned a lot! Really glad you took time to make it!

[@vogelvogeltje]

Lol use the playback speed button

[@Projektor_music]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@swanni420]

one of the best videos on this topic ive ever watched. thank you!

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! I'm glad you like it although i do consider it a bit out of date, maybe in the future I'll make an update to it but I've learned a lot since this video. I've made a lot of other videos on psytrance bass that you might also find interesting: kzbin.info/aero/PLiHjNW26F3PvpBk411t4xbFU6d2F5Jjh7

[@KrisFjord]

Thanks for the tutorial my friend, now watch me make a million dollars tomorrow with this information! No but seriously i cannot wait to sit down and apply some of this golden knowledge to my music, thank you very much.

[@Projektor_music]

if only it was that easy my friend!

[@alexdinel1271]

Very well done dude, this video has the best progression and is one of the most educational vids on youtube.

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! Much appriciated!

[@DamianYoko]

"... and you just spend a lot of time working on working on very small details which, as I explained before, might not always be what you want" This is a key part in my opinion to being able to finish a track. The amount of times I have spent an hour fiddling with a sound and then just get annoyed and quit + "don't save"... Losing flow and creative drive because of too many options as a sound designer/producer has cost me SO MUCH TIME.

[@superfly1321]

Excellent tutorial, thanks.

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks, Updated version coming soon.

[@EdgarDavey]

Dang dude, you just dropped some deeeeeep knowledge that I could not find anywhere else. Thank you so much

[@Projektor_music]

you're welcome but you should really check out the updated version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raepcpqOZ8uGY5o

[@henriquesacchetti9848]

Thank you so much brother for providing such pertinent and detailed information! What an EPIC video! It's been many years producing basslines in the dark. Thank you for all work and time you spent on this. especially on the trick of moving the kick's phase rather than the bass, also first bass note shaped directly in Serum. Blessings for you dude

[@Projektor_music]

Ohh man Thanks but this one is rather old. CHeck out the updated version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raepcpqOZ8uGY5o

[@Jetek_kalsitek]

Hi i m french and i wanted to say, it s a realy good masterclass, thank you.

[@Projektor_music]

I'm glad you like it bro!

[@TheBaBaLand]

Wow man, BIG UPS! learning so much from this!

[@Projektor_music]

This is just the beginning! Since I made this video I'vemade a lot more kick & bass content: kzbin.info/aero/PLiHjNW26F3PvpBk411t4xbFU6d2F5Jjh7

[@psynade1314]

Huge respect Maaan Taking your time,explaining thank you

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks for the nice comment! I'm glad it's helpful!

[@TheZeromaz]

I am just starting the video now. I know it'll be a goldmine of information. Thanks for everything you do for us all.

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks for the nice words!

[@freshmint5130]

Absolutely massive tutorial, big thanks man!

[@Projektor_music]

you're welcome! Since this tutorial I've learned a lot more: kzbin.info/aero/PLiHjNW26F3PvpBk411t4xbFU6d2F5Jjh7

[@nathanbryers]

Lot of effort in this tutorial thanks man this is gold

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks, glad you enjoy!

[@Projektor_music]

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[@samfisher995]

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[@Projektor_music]

@@samfisher995 Ohh that's a problem! I'll have to contact my distributer about that one... You can always contact me via discord in the future!

[@Artek604]

Nothing on Bandcamp? :(

[@Projektor_music]

@@Artek604 My stuff is also on bandcamp! Although I'm trying to promote these platforms specifically as I'm trying to get those numbers higher (Labels care about that). If you prefer bandcamp the link is in the description!

[@abhisflyingsoon]

man this is just golden! Thank you so much!

[@Projektor_music]

You're welcome!

[@Simulacrum1310]

TWO HOURS on the concept of psytrance bassline? Fuck yeah, here it goes my day off

[@Projektor_music]

If you really have all day, I've since made about 4 more videos detailing my evolution of bassline creation Learning about phase: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_Zomt3gdaLl9U Revolutionizing the processing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5qlaIGrfdWXntU How I do kick & bass: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZXWeIVriJ2KgLs My current bass patch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYXPhpKAgp5qiKM Cleaning up psytrance basslines: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmmah4trbtiqftk

[@Simulacrum1310]

@@Projektor_music Hey THANK YOU so much! Your videos are a tremendous resource! Gotta spam your youtube channel all over Reddit.

[@novictim]

Such an underrated guide to basslines!! Originally I didn't view the vid because it is too long, but it is worth watching!

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! glad you gave it the time!

[@djspirithz]

Hey man! I'm a psytrance producer myself and I reallyyyy appreacite this video and all the effort you putted to made it. Thaaanks!

[@Projektor_music]

Great that's why I did it! Glad you enjoyed!

[@djspirithz]

@@Projektor_music Yeah man I'm sure i'll make better Psytrance now hehe! I also checked out your stuff and I think I just discover another great psytrance producer ;)

[@Projektor_music]

@@djspirithz Thanks!

[@rhinoskin7550]

Thank you for putting this all together.. Very hard to find the correct information about the fundamentals of building basslines.

[@Projektor_music]

you're welcome. If you wait like a week there will be another one of these, but much better!

[@rhinoskin7550]

@@Projektor_music Bass is never ending!

[@Projektor_music]

@@rhinoskin7550 tell me about it bro. this new one is like 3 hours+ of video lol

[@rhinoskin7550]

@@Projektor_music In the grand scheme, that's maybe 1%-10% of the total time you have into understanding the kick and bass sound design.. I love technical stuff.. Composing is not my strongest point. Haha. This helped a lot in regard to understanding designs tho.. Took about 3 days to really go through the video. Thank you for the hard work.

[@Projektor_music]

@@rhinoskin7550 yeah true, but I do think I explain everything you need to know, the rest of the time is just learning & tuning your ears!

[@transition9867]

Thank you for all the information

[@Projektor_music]

My pleasure!

[@RoxScoots]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us mate, really great work !

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks, I'm glad I could help!

[@O-EMME]

Grande Projector! Alta qualità, come sempre.

[@Projektor_music]

Grazie mille!

[@schimpl23]

Thank you very much! I've learned a lot! So much information I'll watch this Video a few times I guess :) Now on to the DAW...

[@Projektor_music]

Nice Hope you can get some quality bass sounds

[@michaelahanti9189]

Just what I needed. Thanks Bro

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! If you need more I made this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLiHjNW26F3PvpBk411t4xbFU6d2F5Jjh7 There is a lot of new things I've learned since I made this video!

[@michaelahanti9189]

@@Projektor_music Thanks. I actually make psybient, but there's a lot I can learn from psytrance production methods. You're on my long list of playlists to watch😍

[@chrishamilton4041]

WOW!!!! this is awesome! Thank you for getting so much into detail. Never saw a greater tutorial for Psytrance Bass. Just stunning what you do

[@Projektor_music]

Glad it was helpful!

[@lucasboffa9187]

your content is GOLD

[@Projektor_music]

If you think this one is good, check out the updated version I posted recently: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raepcpqOZ8uGY5o

[@Ganjakeksi]

Nice! Very informative even i knew everything allready but good reminder on those phase issues :)

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks! I'm glad I could serve as a good reminder!

[@aviezer11neeso]

Deep and thorough, love that you go all the way with the basics and the behavior of things. You are a real teacher, thank you!

[@lommelinn]

I learned so much, and now wondering how to apply this to techno rumbles

[@Projektor_music]

techno rumbles are different but some things do apply the same maybe.

[@lommelinn]

@@Projektor_music in my current modular techno setup I avoid phase issues by sculpting the rumble directly from the kick. setting the decay of the kick long enough and routing a 1/16th or 1/8th envelope to the pitch gives a nice, continuous low-end and I can define the tone by the decay and the sustain of the envelope. it can do clicky bass too.

[@Projektor_music]

@@lommelinn yeah but I don't think a real rumble (if you use any kind of reverb) needs to be actually phase alligned. I'd think the point of techno is to be a bit more messy than psytrance

[@mattbukovski92]

Fun fact: you can type 1/16 as a decay value in Serum's ADSR, instead of milliseconds - and it will convert 1/16 to the ms according to the project's BPM

[@Projektor_music]

true, I personally find the LFO envelope workflow to be much faster and easier to use though...

[@SoursLoL]

The level of detail you put into this video is crazy. You truly have a talent for teaching and worked hard on this and I appreciate that man. Thank you and please post more : )

[@cvwoodworkdesign2835]

Best tutorial... Top man!

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man but check out the newer version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raepcpqOZ8uGY5o

[@pranaspheric4727]

Wow! Such a detailed tutorial!

[@sonny3854]

Question: how do you keep the bass phase aligned with the kick if you play various notes in the bass? ... also, i'm assuming you use a tonal kick that has a sustained note at the end of it to phase align your bass to it, right?

[@Projektor_music]

nope, I do this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rordoWVtrbmBl9E

[@agreen9903]

excellent tutorial

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks!

[@ramonhobelma7137]

This is incredible thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@Projektor_music]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching and merry Christmas!

[@ramonhobelma7137]

@@Projektor_music Same to you!

[@Bobbycartuner]

Great vid!!! Thank you so much! As i just found out: You can actually type in the numeric values such as 1/16 in the envelope timing section and it calculates the timing according to your bpm. however it is probably easier to use the lfo section anyway.

[@Projektor_music]

yes, that only wotks with 0 attack & 0 release, the LFO is easier anyway...

[@djbrunao]

Thank you man, a lot to process....

[@jimvermeer9451]

Dank je wel voor je videos ! Merry Christmas

[@Projektor_music]

graag gedaan! Fijne kerst!

[@siddharthachowdhury7904]

thanks

[@PsyformSamples]

Great tips!

[@rexel666]

Great tutorial. Very thorough.

[@Projektor_music]

thanks but this video is fairly old. The 2023 version is linked in the pinned comment and has much more info!

[@amasedj]

great! thank you! 🙏

[@Projektor_music]

you're welcome man!

[@Hello-pl2qe]

Absolutely great video

[@Projektor_music]

Thank you, but I think this updated version is better: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raepcpqOZ8uGY5o

[@Hello-pl2qe]

@Projektor_music Definitely going to check it out, thanks.

[@Projektor_music]

@@Hello-pl2qe you're welcome :)

[@rhictor-7830]

brilliant video man, this info is so valuable to me just starting out with sound design, If you were looking for a new topic to do one of these with the Neelix style almost just sub bass bass with the electro mids layered would be cool to see

[@Projektor_music]

Glad it was helpful! I have done some stuff on Neelix style basses in the past as well as a sound design request in a recent stream: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZrMlWZojLCKjqs This particular bass has more high end but you can just low pass it for the almost sub only effect

[@Artek604]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience & knowledge!!!

[@Projektor_music]

Ahahaha understandable, have a nice day off!

[@planb5260]

Learned a lot, thanks.

[@Projektor_music]

Amazing! glad to help!

[@martinnitram4077]

At first thanks for the great Tutorial. In the first part you explain, how you prefer to not bounce the bassline, what I'd definitely prefer. but when you explain your Bass Allpass Rack at 01:08:38 it introduces a lot of postringing. how do you handle that without bouncing the bassline?

[@Projektor_music]

This video is very old and things have changed a lot for me. anytime you dela with post ringing you have to resample of course but I've developed several techniques that allow for the phase shifting to happen without any need for post ringing, you can find those here: kzbin.info/aero/PLiHjNW26F3PvpBk411t4xbFU6d2F5Jjh7 I'm actually working on an updated version of this video for my Psytrancfe fr beginners series but that will take quite a while actually...

[@martinnitram4077]

@@Projektor_music great stuff!

[@VoidLogic_]

I love you dude !

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed!

[@tipsnation]

Thanks alote

[@Projektor_music]

you're welcome!

[@brzi4459]

1:10:20 can i also do this with fabfilter mb compressor? melda is expensive :D

[@Projektor_music]

yeah why not? they are both very capable multiband compression plugins!

[@joshualenhart701]

I have no words! Take my money!!

[@Projektor_music]

ahaha thanks! first one is free!

[@db.felpinho]

THANK U, MY BROTHER!

[@michaelbarrella3043]

Subbed!!

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man!

[@federico8339]

legend

[@Projektor_music]

Thank you!

[@Thanos1908]

You are a legend for doing this! PS. Any chance you could upload the Serum preset that the vid starts with? It would make it easier to follow the tutorial =)

[@Projektor_music]

I don't like to share presets like this, I feel it takes away from the video as people won't actually watch it but just grap the preset and run with it without knowing how it works...

[@Thanos1908]

@@Projektor_music Hiya, thanks for the reply. Normally i would agree with you, but it is the "starting position" that i am referring to and not the end product. Being on a different DAW than you (and having access to different VSTs) it makes it a lot easier if there is a common starting point...so i can at least approximate by ear. Ps. I'm pretty sure i replied to your reply yesterday, YT is playing up again.

[@Projektor_music]

@@Thanos1908 well you can disagree all you want i guess, but my opinion on this is final. I've had many many people ask for the presets for various different reasons, but they all boil down to not wanting to do the work and learning. I show the whole patch, you can copy it value for value if you want to, which is again not the point of the tutorial...

[@Thanos1908]

@@Projektor_music No worries.👍 I was interested in the custom waveform you were using (as in , what differences does it bare when compared to a similar "vanilla" waveform ) and any LFOs etc you might have had assigned that affected the sound...but as you clarified that's not info you feel needs to be shared. Ps. i'm not being lazy , but i can appreciate where you are coming from. It seems to be a common complaint amongst content creators such as yourself. (people lifting riffs etc from tutorials instead of using them as inspiration/educational content) 👍

[@Projektor_music]

@@Thanos1908 idk the patch I show at 15:00 uses the default serum waveform (a basic upward saw wave). I also show both LFO's that are actually assigned to something (all other LFO's don't do anything) I don't want to accuse you specifically of being lazy, it's not that personal. The issue is that if I provide the preset to you, I have to do it to everyone. It would be unfair to discriminate from person to person. If you need extra help with anything you can always comment or write me on my discord server or privately.

[@akshayshetty1680]

Thank you!!

[@Projektor_music]

No worries!

[@natirosas9286]

Sos el mejor del mundo

[@pranaspheric4727]

But one qustion. Are you using the second envelope on the cutoff in the basic bassline shape? You just mentioned only the lfo triggering. But if I use it like that without modulate the adsr settings of envelope 2 it sounds completely different.

[@Projektor_music]

yes you need to dial in an appropriate envelope for the filter cutoff modulation.

[@Alexandrina-z4t]

this is gold

[@Projektor_music]

thanks man, check out the updated version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raepcpqOZ8uGY5o

[@stefanjevtichh3294]

I prefer more Shaperbox to reduce subbase from first note of the basa

[@Projektor_music]

Could also work but shaperbox might introduce a phase shift as it uses a filter (I presume)

[@magica2z]

This is the greatest video about bassline. Thank you and subscribed.

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! I've made much more content since on more advanced techniques: kzbin.info/aero/PLiHjNW26F3PvpBk411t4xbFU6d2F5Jjh7

[@Buttschy]

Klasse Video habe lange nach so einem Video gesucht. Leider nur in Englisch, daher muss die automatische Übersetzunh aussreichen und ich schreibe mir Schritt für Schritt alles auf. Danke

[@Liron.Luminol]

Tnx a lot ....🥰🥰🥰

[@Projektor_music]

no worries, thank you for watching

[@eima_music]

crazy good thank you 🙏

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks! Glad you like it!

[@GabrielRodrigues61]

Very nice!

[@Projektor_music]

Thank you!

[@masoodkhodayi]

excellent 😍

[@Projektor_music]

Thank you! Check out the newer version too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raepcpqOZ8uGY5o

[@psyttk7252]

This seems great so far do you have a suggestion on a reasonably affordable kick pack thats actually good? I am trying to make some myself but i feel my sample library doesn't have any good psy kicks to refer to

[@stefanjevtichh3294]

I recomend for you to try to recreate a kick from reference track you like. I was started with Djantrix or Lunatica kicks, for me their are best :)

[@Projektor_music]

That's often a problem. You should just look for some good premium sample packs!

[@Projektor_music]

Creatign your own kicks is an option but you would need to spend a large amount of time in order to get good results!

[@tobiaskeller6734]

You are Great Man … but how can i get Dome plasticness Or Wooden Sound to offbeat Bases ? And do you have a Alternative for the old quadrafuzz 1 ?

[@Projektor_music]

this is an old video before I understood the details of inter harmonic phase relationships. I've done many tutorials since then (including a very cool one coming out tomorrow). I'm also working on a replacement for this video. The short answer is yes, you would need to use processing in a way that phase shifts certain harmonics more than others to achieve this effect. The problem of cleanlyness remains though and you do need to take care of that. as I said there will be a replacement for this video going more in depth on all of the things covered in this tutorial and much more!

[@CostasCh]

When it becomes to align the kick and the bass, if i have effects that introduce a lot of latency (linear-phase eq for example), in Psyscope the samples change position. So it is impossible to align the kick and the bass visually. Any idea how i can override this issue? On another DAW i don't have this.

[@Projektor_music]

you can set the lat value to compensate any timing issues...

[@CostasCh]

@@Projektor_music thank you m8!

[@Projektor_music]

@@CostasCh no problem!

[@hellolittleboy9358]

Hello! I do the kick and bass in Ableton as in the video, then export it to a wav file and continue working in FL Studio. Tell me, is it possible to do this? Or is the sound disrupted?

[@Projektor_music]

yeah but why would you?

[@onslaughtray9577]

I try to download the presets but it gives me an .adg file not a preset file that I can use in Cubase?

[@Projektor_music]

yeah the bass rack is for ableton, it won't work in Cubase

[@onslaughtray9577]

@@Projektor_music do you know any good tutorials for it for Cubase? Appreciate it

[@OOD2021]

Thank you for the great tutorial. I have a weird question. Sometimes when I create a psytrance kick+bassline it sounds off, but when I hold my headphones a few centimeters from my ears it sounds perfect (I noticed this by random). Is this effect caused by phase problems?

[@Projektor_music]

i'm not too familiar with acoustics but I don't think taking your headphones off a bit is a good way to judge your KB.

[@OOD2021]

@@Projektor_music I didn't say its a good method! it's just an observation I made and I'm curious on why this is caused.

[@Projektor_music]

@@OOD2021 IDK, acoustics I guess

[@OOD2021]

@@Projektor_music Thanks. Keep up the good work, and if i find out what kind of phenomenon is responsible for this I will let you know :P

[@zanex3270]

respect!

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man!

[@teneki]

love u

[@Projektor_music]

Thank you!

[@henriregniez7161]

urm, i though harmonics went up exponentialy, so instead of 100 200 300 @9:46 it would be 100 200 400 ? :P

[@Projektor_music]

That would be octaves. harmonics are multiples of the fundamental at x2 for second harmonic x3 for third harmonic and so on. You can verify this yourself by looking at the harmonics of a pure saw wave through a spectrum analyzer...

[@henriregniez7161]

@@Projektor_music aah yes exact ok, i didn't realise harmonics went up this way

[@BFHPET]

24:50

[@Kiw88d]

Thanks

[@BFHPET]

1:02:20

[@bobbym6130]

What about 5/5 signatures? I feel like some tracks have a swing, or doublet on the offbeat Edit : 5/4, not 4/4

[@Projektor_music]

I personally haven't heard any psytrance outside of 4/4

[@bobbym6130]

​@@Projektor_musicI meant 5/4, not 5/5 haha. funny when you Google "what time signature is psytrance" their AI answer is 5/4. But listening to your examples maybe it's just the envelope or something that creates the feel I'm thinking of.

[@Projektor_music]

@@bobbym6130 5/4? glad to hear it will still take a while for AI to take over my job...

[@bobbym6130]

OK I realized I was all mixed up. I wasn't thinking of time signatures, they're definitely 4/4. What I should have asked about is the notes within a beat. I don't know the right terms. But I think of 4 possible notes within a beat. You could have kick - bass pulse - bass pulse - bass pulse all evenly spaced. In my head I was wondering if those pulses could be clustered around the middle of the beat in some way

[@TheDjdaijo]

Hi I’m a beginner

[@Projektor_music]

well then I hope this helps!

[@HalfGodHalfBeast]

🖖👍

[@yvess3010]

Another ''ultimate guide'' from a less than ultimate producer.

[@Projektor_music]

Are you the same guy that is salty on reddit because of how I mod the psytrance production subreddit?

[@Projektor_music]

lol it used to say dipshit...

[@swisavi]

///

[@MrSickmo]

Thank you very much for this Guide,its so Helpfull 🙂

[@Projektor_music]

Thanks man! But you should watch the updated version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raepcpqOZ8uGY5o

[@AngeloGonçalves-e4c]

Thank you !