THE ACOLYTE EPISODE 8 REACTION | The Acolye | Star Wars | The High Republic | Season Finale Review

[@CALVIN77737]

Qimir and Sol are undoubtedly the best part of this show.

[@2_fast_4_Yu]

Jecki carried aswell

[@DarthRevan111-p6x]

@@2_fast_4_Yu Yh but she died halfway through.

[@BJackson-kg5dr]

Facts

[@CALVIN77737]

@@2_fast_4_Yutotally agree

[@2_fast_4_Yu]

@user-ub8ls1eq1j she still carried though

Clone Wars season 1 was pretty weak, yet, it grew to become one of the highlights of Star Wars. Considering how good the good moments were on this show, I'm open to it continuing.

[@ReformingRegent]

True, but The Acolyte has a long way to go before it can even get to that point(if it ever does). The show runners made a lot of weird decisions and need to learn how to take feedback and stop dismissing everyone as hatters for giving them their opinions.

@@ReformingRegent I'm sorry, I haven't seen that responde from the team. I'm used to see mostly very biased unfair criticism on Twitter. There are a lot of valid commentary as the series is on deed flawed, but MEN Twitter was insufferable these past two months.

[@MrDarkSidius]

Clone Wars didn't cost $180m for 8 episodes

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

@@MrDarkSidiusit also looked fucking horrendous

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

@@ReformingRegentwe’re getting to a point where it’s nearly impossible for anyone to separate praise from blind support and criticism as braindead hate. So often the extremes are the majority of what’s seen that it’s hard to find any middle area. Overall I think the main thing I’d like for the show is a better director for the actors, especially Mae/Osha. I feel she had the potential to make such a difficult role work but wasn’t always directed the best. It could also do without its moments of attempted humor. They were rare, yeah, but they were pretty bad. The fights though, no criticism from me, that shit fucked so hard. I would’ve also liked a better score, I think this may be one of the weakest scores in all of Star Wars. But I really enjoyed the overall premise and story structure. Unreliable perspectives and characters working off information that lacked crucial details made this a really nuanced and complex story, which I think even Andor doesn’t really have. Andor has the question of morality in fighting a pure evil force, but that’s about it. In Acolyte, it’s hard to pin blame anywhere. And where they go from here could be SUPER interesting. I’m so hopeful for them to continue.

[@RRaxor]

All the theories on what "Kill a Jedi without a weapon" truly meant, the hidden meaning, and no one thought about force choke. I didn't see 1 theory that mentioned that. How did we miss it.

[@kaygee2121]

Ikr? I think we all got a bit too meta with it 😅

[@deathking1019]

I was seeing “kill a jedi without a weapon” was killing a jedi while they are unarmed killing a defenceless jedi perverting the rule that jedi couldn’t kill someone that was unarmed

[@RRaxor]

@@deathking1019 yeah I thought it was disarm the Jedi and Kill them with their own saber

[@pictureperfect3211]

Clever writing 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@vanessaaves3271]

I did see some people hypothesizing about force choking, but it was just a few out of the many many wild theories!

[@nomisunrider6472]

Sol used Mae as the scapegoat to cover up his own crime, and now he's the scapegoat for Mae's crimes. It all comes full circle. And yeah, I'm betting "Qimir" thinks he's going behind Plagueis' back with this. If he really is/was Plagueis' apprentice, he's not long for this world.

[@Andrew-Bastin]

Not necessarily, if I remember correctly that the whole point of the Rule of Two is for the apprentice to surpass and destroy the master, Plagueis was a devout follower of the Rule of Two so if anything Plagueis would encourage his apprentice to surpass him.

[@joshmox1507]

Yes this is why there should be a season 2

[@DrWatson4]

⁠@@Andrew-Bastinunless he’s not Plagueis’ apprentice in which case he’s in even more trouble because he should not exist. Equally though if he is his apprentice I doubt he’d be happy with him training an apprentice who he has affection towards.

[@JaniacTheHedgehog]

​@@Andrew-BastinYeah, but we know that doesn't happen since he later gets Palpatine as an apprentice who ends up assassinating him in his sleep-

[@Andrew-Bastin]

@@DrWatson4 at certain level of affection is allowed between master and apprentice as long as it doesn’t compromise the goal of the Rule of Two but if Plagueis feels that their feelings are leading them astray then they could be in trouble, providing that this apparent affection is genuine and not a manipulation tactic.

[@Skye_Writer]

Why is everyone missing the fact that Bazil sabotaged the wiring to disable the weapons and STOP Sol from firing on an UNARMED ship? Am I the only one who recognized the fact that he looked concerned and that he did that only once Sol turned on his targeting computer?

[@pictureperfect3211]

Girl the level shear confusion so many smart intelligent people have, watching episodes of this show HAS TO BE STUDIED. Like he CLEARLY heard that whole conversation where Sol confessed to murdering their mother. Like… how did so many misunderstanding that?!

[@Dicko2909]

Because Bazil had no idea what Sol was trying to do. He wasn't trying to destroy the ship, even these writers aren't that stupid if I had to guess a tractor lock but we'll never know now.

[@JCWM2]

The Acolyte is a perfect example of why Disney needs to stop making these episodes like 32 minutes long if they're only giving us 8-10 per season. If you make each episode a full hour (not including credits), you can flesh out characters and make us actually care about them. I think that the backstory being sprinkled throughout would've been much more effective if we had grown attached to ANY of the characters. Give us time with Yord and Jecki so we see their personalities more and become attached, so we aren't still rooting for Qimir when he offs them. I want to see the weight of the weeks on Brendok so it makes sense to me why Sol would be so shocked to finally see another person and why Torbin is so homesick Extend a few of the fight scenes, not by a lot, but just enough to really lean into the fact that each character has a different fighting style and showcase it a little more. This show was a great rough draft when it could've been so much more had they not given such short episodes, leaving out so much of the moments of humanity in the characters.

[@joluoto]

Unfortunately this show did not have the story for 8 whole episodes, why episode 4 was a bunch of padding and not much else.

[@jackson857]

The problem is cost. This show already cost $180 million. They aren't getting out what they are putting in right now and you want them to invest even more money?

[@kaygee2121]

"Then I'll see you in hell!" - Han Solo on Hoth as he takes off on a Tauntaun to rescue Luke

[@Anduril74871]

"What the hell are you doing?!". - also Han Solo, A New Hope.

[@Skye_Writer]

@kaygee2121 RIGHT?!? And did we forget the mentions of Hell through The Mandalorian? It goes all the way back to the first movie, but a lot of reactors seemed surprised by it this time.

[@jackiec859]

"There'll be Hell to pay" -Uncle Owen. "Then I'll see you in Hell" -Han Solo. *Hell is where you make it.*

[@kaygee2121]

Also: "What the hell" - Poe, in those rust buckets on Crait

[@kaygee2121]

@@Skye_Writer I saw a lot of pearl clutchers during a watch party, but then it was the same people that have been saying this show is evil anyway. 😂

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Never did I expect we'd get to see a crystal being bled

[@KYRSZ-gd1qt]

That was not how bleeding a crystal works. It takes time to break down the spirit of a good kyber crystal to make it bleed. She would also need to be specifically focusing all her hate into the crystal consciously. Her sudden change in mood itself would not bleed a crystal just by happenstance.

[@gamingeagle19]

Jedi Survivor showed crystal bleeding the same way as this episode.They showed it one way for the sake of that story. They changed it in two other projects to fit that story. Its fine.​@KYRSZ-gd1qt

[@KYRSZ-gd1qt]

@@gamingeagle19 Storytelling will continue to suffer the more we say in our heads "that is not how that is supposed to happen" and then shrug it off as 'fine'. The more you go against the creator by retconning their vision the more the show/story suffers. We should expect more not less.

[@KYRSZ-gd1qt]

@@gamingeagle19 In addition games are games. They are where fan fiction thrives. Games normally do not have any part to do with canon lore of the story as a whole. A TV show, a book, or a movie has established lore.

[@CJB02]

@@KYRSZ-gd1qtExcept Jedi: Fallen Order and Survivor are both canon. The EA Battlefront 2 campaign is as well.

[@xjoemallardx]

Plagueis looked legitimately terrifying.

[@sheldnz]

I just wish the Brendok back story was in the first episode, then 16years later... Then just kept it as a simple contained story without the Rashamon stuff, then just give us a single tease at the end to lead to a potential second season. IMHO. I really like the era and concepts, so i want to see more, but dang, there's so many moving parts in this very short series.

[@Phizzo4real]

Yeah, the arranging of the episodes is what prices me the most. I explained it in another video. Sprinkling the backstory for every character's POV would have been better. And starting the story with the Withes homework and them being driven away by the Jedi would have been a better start to the series and did more showing than telling.

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

Nah, I strongly preferred not having the answers. It puts us more on Osha’s perspective for most of the story, and by doing a retelling they emphasized the characters’ own lack of understanding. People acting with limited info is a core part of this story, so by limiting our info it helps to accentuate that. Plus mysteries are fun

[@codysias2265]

I think the end scene with Vernestra going to Yoda is to talk to him about the possibility of Qimir being alive somehow. I think she has fully buried the Brendok lie at this point

[@Vyan00]

Don;t let the haters get you down - you gave an honest opinion and that's the best you can expect.

[@moe5020]

Bro all these reaction channels all get invited to Disneyland and get free merch and shit and would probably get copy striked if they weren’t positive so I doubt it’s his honest opinion

[@edinalewis4704]

I honestly enjoyed the show, not understanding the hate it’s getting.

[@potassium22nd]

It’s because of the inconsistency. For a start, how can yoda not sense these Jedi dying and vernestra covering up sol’s death? Mai going back and forth loving osha then wanting to kill her. Also when sol killing the mother when she turn into the puff of darkness and when she gets stabs she says osha chose you. Like everyone is entitle with their opinion but to me I don’t see people who like this show make good arguments. To me I don’t want another season.

[@hunterbussey]

@@potassium22nd I wanted to like the show the 1st 2 episodes pulled me in but the constant motive flips with Osha and Mae made no sense, the pointless cameos were oddly placed as well. The saber fights tho were pretty solid to me.

[@potassium22nd]

@@hunterbussey that was probably the only thing solid was the lightsaber fights. Making the Jedi self absorbed and the actual villain was when I was like yeah Kathleen and Leslye don’t know shit about Star Wars

[@kaygee2121]

They kept flip-flopping because they were the same person. Unbalanced without the other.

[@edinalewis4704]

@@potassium22nd The Star Wars galaxy has a billion star systems and a population of one hundred quintillion. You really think Yoda has the capacity to be on top of all of it?

[@lordfoul6259]

I loved this first season it ended exactly how I thought it would it was great seeing Osha turning to the dark side being the real acolyte all along watching a kyber crystal being bled for the first time in live action finally seeing Darth Plagueis on screen and watching Qimir do a Darth Revan memory wipe on Mae please let there be a second season

[@dantejohnson7796]

DO NOT BRING IN DARTH REVAN! It took an entire coucil to wipe Revan's memory, not a single person. As for the Kyber crystal... It was laughable. That's not how you bleed a Kyber crystal. It takes intense mediatation; if that was the case, then Anakin's lightsbaer would have turned red during his slaughter of younglings. The show should of had the girls eyes turn yellow; it would have been so much better

[@jasonmarbach]

@@dantejohnson7796Man, SWT works quick handing out these talking points to you guys, huh? I’ve seen almost this exact “criticism” - verbatim, almost - three times already tonight. The reason it takes such concentration and effort - usually - to bleed a crystal is because the would-be dark side user isn’t *actively* feeling the weight of acute grief and rage in that moment…they have to summon it up from inside of themselves from their trauma and lived experiences, much like how actors have to draw on their own real pain to act very emotional scenes. We’ve never (onscreen or elsewhere) seen someone bleeding an exposed (because the show made a specific effort to show us that Sol’s saber was damaged and the crystal was exposed) crystal *while in the immediacy* of their acute pain. If anything, it was yet another very cool expansion this show has given us. As for Revan…calm down, man. No one was saying this was on the same scale, obviously Mae isn’t in Revan’s ballpark as far as power scale.

[@jakewheeler6014]

@@dantejohnson7796 Dagen Gera bled his crystal in seconds in jedi survivor.

[@jasonmarbach]

Every time a crystal has *ever* been shown while bleeding, it’s been exposed. Every. Single. Time. Anakin’s crystal wasn’t exposed. If he’d had a crystal on him in the infamous “nooooooo!” scene, you can bet it would’ve bled on the spot. Next “criticism.”

[@jasonmarbach]

Anyway, glad you loved it too, @lordfoul6259!

[@SWTobito0702]

From the looks of it, Vernestra has moved on to dealing with Qimir, which is probably what she wanted to talk with Yoda about.

[@jillg9108]

Perhaps Qimir and Venestra did battle where she used her force whip which is much different than Qimir implying he was beaten.

[@scottishjedi1522]

Qimir must have been her Padawan and turned. She must have thought she had killed him but instantly recognised his presence in the force on Brendok. She had to lie to the Senate because if she admitted the culprit responsible was a Dark Jedi trained in the Dark Side it would’ve proved the Senator right that the Jedi could turn evil.

[@coreyschleder8418]

Hopefully seeing what happened to Sol and the other 3, she decided that covering up Qimir was not the way to go.

[@rhaenatargaryen8061]

personally this show really worked for me it was so refreshing. i have criticisms of its ultimate execution ofc, pacing etc. i feel like it needed about two more episodes too. but i loved all the characters so much

[@joshmox1507]

yeh i liked it, they needed more about the sith instead of the jedi, more about darth plageuis would be good and I hope that will happen if there's a season 2

[@chuis2101]

Yeah none of my complaints are really with the plot or the characters, it’s pretty much all on the execution of it as a whole. With some neater execution, pacing, dialogue, longer/more episodes etc. it’d easily be one of my favourite series and I already enjoyed it quite a lot, the dark side stuff especially and I really hope we get a season 2 to explore Plagueis

[@berighteous]

Sol was targetting Mae to shoot her down, Bazil saved Sol from doing dark side shit.

[@sfinkspl8003]

Excuse me? Since when Jedi killing bad guys is "dark side shit"?

[@ecksearoh6283]

@@sfinkspl8003 Jedi don't kill the unarmed. Mae was running away from him in a weaponless shuttle.

[@sfinkspl8003]

@@ecksearoh6283 She has at least one knife. And can we stop with this "unarmed" bullshit? Qimir kill Yor with his hands and Osha stop Sol from killing him beacose he don't have his lightsaber in hand.

[@michaelarroyo01]

Sol was also flying them through pretty much a death trap. Basil was probably like “F this, I’m stopping the ship before you get us killed.”

[@kazehazeee]

​@@sfinkspl8003regardless, bazil saved him from making too much problem

[@sampson3121]

What happened on Brendok was a Jedi didn't follow the instructions from the Council. It was his fault 100%

[@Phizzo4real]

Yeah, I don't get how ppl think it was "forced" becuz they like Sol. I like the character too, but he and Torbin fucked up big time. And Indora fucked up by keeping the after action report from the council and fed them some bs story. Accident or not, Sol killing their mom like that was fucking stupid. And he justifying it was even worse.

[@agresticumbra]

Being outside their jurisdiction, then breaking into a home because of Sol's emotional reaction, as well as ignorant, bigoted, pretty much colonial attitude is egregious. Then they broke in again, after being told by Indara & the counsel no? I honestly don't care what Aniseya did to Torbin after that, the Jedi were the ones overstepping.

[@Jjj-zz7bz]

Yeah Sol is a great character but it was completely his fault

[@Omn1Media]

My point being that regardless of who cast the first stone so to speak, everyone is responsible for their own response to that.

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

Mae started the fire that escalated things, her mother encouraged her to fight, the witches met them with violence, the leader twisted Torbin’s mind, Torbin was too pushy in wanting to leave, Sol assumed the worst in the moment based on the limited information he had, all of which was pretty damning. There is no 100% in this blame game. That’s the point. No matter what Sol did, that was already after the witches chose to fight them and Mae started the fire. Nearly everyone bears some level of fault in what happened.

[@MTTT19]

Not the best Star Wars series, but it did have me intrigued and wanting to see what was going to happen next. I’m all for them having a Second Season if it’s in the cards.

[@basicsimp8798]

They definitely landed the ending ❤ I do hope they continue with the show, it's so good ❤

[@jorgechicaiza7059]

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[@greymangaming1877]

Huh?

[@sfinkspl8003]

​@@greymangaming1877I want to be sure... You talking about Acolyte?

[@jasonmarbach]

Yes, you unserious snowflakes, he’s talking about the acolyte, and he’s right. Even unserious buffoons who irrationally hated the show months before it came out because of idiotic, micropeen “reasons” should be able to acknowledge that the finale was at least one of the strongest eps of the first season, if not THE strongest. That’s all that “landing the plane” is.

[@theDaoistBean]

I think your points are quite valid. Because of the 'mystery ' aspect of the show, the storytelling suffered. Ultimately this season is Sol's story and everything important serves that. But in trying to reveal that slowly, we got the impression it was about Mae and Osha, and that made them look underwhelming. I think next season is about them now that Osha finally made a choice and Mae is free of her crushing codependency on her sister. Think of it like the originals....Luke is basically a passenger in ANH but starts becoming an active protagonist in TESB. So I think this show will play better on rewatch and when there are is/are more season(s).

[@bemasaberwyn55]

I see Sol as a proto version of the kinda dogma that creates the rigidity we see in Obi-Wan and Mace Windu. And Vanestra using him as a scapegoat makes perfect sense

[@YourNeighborhoodItalian]

A Jedi covering up 4 murders, 3 dark Jedi and pinning it all on her innocent FRIEND- in fact does not make sense

[@aprilshighfantasysoul5891]

I genuinely think - from what we saw - that the Ascension is just an induction ceremony. Nothing nefarious about it, Anaseiya even says 'we haven't performed and Ascension since we were exiled' which indicates that it used to be a thing they did - doubtful that they keep turning kids into vessels for the coven if they're all...still here. The moment the jedi broke into the compound and interrupted the ceremony, immediately needling the coven and telling them they were breaking the law, things went downhill - if they had just 1) talked to an ADULT about the coven (rather than grilling an 8 year old and basing their understanding on her misquote) and 2) not demanded to take their children (even demanding to speak alone to the girls on their ship without an adult present is massive red-flags and overstepping), there wouldn't have been an issue. Koril was only upset because an outside force came in to take her children away - most parents wouldn't just roll over and let that happen. The massacre is 100% on the Jedi despite their 'good' intentions

[@neil2242]

People were expecting Bazil smelled the sus on Mae, but it was Sol setting off his Tynnan sense. On an unrelated note, what if Senator Rayencourt is a certain Sith in disguise? I mean, both just cameo'd in the finale.

[@anlinde]

Can you imagine how amazingly this series would work as a book though! 🤩

[@jasonmarbach]

Chris Cowan and crew went NUTS this ep. LOVED the wuxia influences in the choreo

[@euphoria2737]

We don’t talk about what aniseya did because there is nothing wrong with reacting, sol should’ve minded his business.

[@Omn1Media]

My point being that regardless of who cast the first stone so to speak, everyone is responsible for their own response. Reacting is perfectly acceptable given the circumstance but her choice of action played a hand in what came later.

[@IggyStardust1967]

@@Omn1Media My man, I know I'm a bit late getting to this video, but I binged the entire season after watching the finale last night. But I have to say something really off topic.... please keep growing your hair out! It looks really good on you.

[@msoundg]

​@IggyStardust1967 that's a much better subject, lol

[@pictureperfect3211]

Bazil was trying to stop Sol from trying to hurt Mae. He was there and heard Sol confess to killing her mother. And saw that she was trying to escape. I do not understand why so many didn’t understand that.

[@GattsBerserkArmor]

Not going to lie i was quite surprised to see that Osha bleed Sol's lightsaber in her anger and even use Force Choke on him, he even seemed to have accepted it by the end. I was quite surprised how Sol was not repentant at all for killing Aneseya. It seems that hiding the secret for so long he started to rationalize excuses for his actions, like care for Osha or making sure the Jedi learned about the vergence. Also great lightsaber sequence between Sol and Qmir. Despite everything Sol was still a very skilled fighter to be able to win against a darksider who defeated 7 Jedi. And Venestra was indeed Qmir's master. Also all her talk about how Sol was a good man who let a mistake fester and change him it was so obvious she was talking about herself and whatever happened with Qmir. She was even lying to the senate and i bet she won't tell the whole truth to Yoda. She is going to use the now without memory Mae to hunt for Qmir and maybe will even end up with the same fate as Sol. By the way Plagueis was spying on them. Wonder if looking for future prospects or checking a possible competition. Great episode and we need a season 2 of this now!😁

[@DarthTingleBinks]

I feel essentially the same way you do about the show. I personally feel all the revelations about what happened in the past work for me. Everyone's decisions make sense under the context given. But I don't think the events on Brendok were worth centering the whole mystery of the show around. Sol overstepped at basically every point and never once thought he did anything wrong, even if he acknowledged that his actions had unforeseen results. He is also clearly driven by his emotions, and has been for a long time. Aniseya rightly saw the Jedi as an invading power and tried to defend her coven and her family, but was also willing to allow Osha to go with the Jedi, despite being pretty emotionally manipulative toward her at several points and shutting Osha down every time she even mentions an alternative to becoming a witch and going through ascension. Torbin was psychically assaulted, but was also determined to get their mission done so that they could leave for home, and upon his actions causing so many deaths felt extreme guilt. Koral was WAY too aggressive the entire time and was more or less the reason Mae started the fire, even if she was only intending to burn Osha's book. And Indara was placed into an impossible to manage situation. Another pass on the scripts would've helped a lot. The dialogue was pretty bad a lot of the time, and the show could've used a lot more focus and direction to fix up the few pacing issues. And I think I would have liked to get more from Venestra, because she felt pretty bland most of the time. Speaking of, a lot of the performances and direction didn't help the already lackluster writing. Amandla is a good actor, but very rarely did I feel that by watching this show. And especially not in any of the Osha/Mae scenes. Speaking of, it would have been a little beneficial if they more clearly relayed Mae's intentions and motives. Because she does seem to flip quite frequently with no in-show explanation. I said this on a different video, but I don't expect this show to get a second season with the way the online reception (artificial or not) has been, and with Bob Iger's... Just with Bob Iger. Bob sucks. I was going to specify, but all of Bob is a problem. But I would be interested in seeing a second season regardless, because I think they can make a truly great season of television if given the time and if not given much studio interference.

[@kaygee2121]

Nice to see actual constructive criticism. Refreshing.

[@DarthTingleBinks]

@@kaygee2121 I'm sure there's more of it out there, but unfortunately there's also a lot of manufactured criticism that muddies the waters a lot like it did with Obi-Wan Kenobi. Like complaining about Ki-Adi Mundi's age, or calling the show woke because it has a diverse cast, or calling the witches space lesbians because... Well I'm not sure, actually, they never explained that one. Koral and Aniseya are Osha and Mae's mothers, but... That's it? So maybe one pair of lesbians in the whole show who don't even do anything overtly lesbian, and then the rest of the coven of witches. Which means they're all lesbian, I guess?

[@thesharpercoder]

Bazil disabled the ship because he thought Sol was about to fire on Mae/Osha. I’m not certain if Bazil can distinguish between the twins. It appeared Sol was not trying to fire on the ship. I think he was trying align a tractor beam.

[@mitchmatt6002]

Have to agree with your overall summary on this show - thanks for the honest reaction! Qimir and the fight choreography were the highlights for me!

[@charlie53echo]

This was one of the shows of this year.

[@Dicko2909]

It certainly was a show released this year.

[@tylerbrown5526]

Osha's red saber reflection in her eyes when the helmet comes off :D

[@BenTurner-sy9uv]

The way Sol seemed to think that if he had bought teenage could prove a vergence took place makes me think he was too busy trying to recruit the girls not to save them but to save them for presenting to the council as evidence of his theories. And nothing I saw disproves it. He convinced himself he cared to cover his guilt.

[@lalaland12]

I genuinely liked this show. It could use some improvements but otherwise gave me what I wanted out of it

[@marshsundeen]

There was enough good stuff here, that I really hope there is a Season 2.

[@clarebo]

I wouldn't care about a season 2 of it weren't for Qimir. I need to see more of him.

[@ladylothwen]

vernestra perpetuating the cycle. she really tells the senate there was a cover up while conducting a cover up. so juicy.

[@Sharkeysays]

Bruh! First and foremost you’re the one reaction I wait for to watch right after the launch. And dude, yes Plagueis. That has got to be the same island that Luke established his Jedi Temple. You have to wonder if all the outcasts: witches, throwaways, etc tapped into the convergence. We are most certainly getting some sort of follow up with Ren Origins. The Rise and Fall of Thrawn. I’m gonna say it now but we are kinda getting a Mandor sample of what will be single motion pictures (Rogue One style) for the connecting threads. Love your content dude! Keep it coming, fellow nerd. Qimir may have established the rule of two with Plagueis.

[@burrito_fighter6699]

I love the trope of restraining a character and then not removing any of their useful tools they might keep on them, like an entire gd droid lol

[@dinahgraham4964]

Since this is an origin story the first season had to be very narrow, but next season it will open up alot more from Osha's training, the senate, searching for qimir, and eventually Palpatine. Rashomon effect, everyone was at fault for Brendock, Osha never had a choice. Everybody just said what she was gonna do, also Sol getting her hopes up about becoming a jedi knowing they didn't even what her is sad.

[@dice268926]

Sol would've blasted Mae, Basil tried to save her. Sol was going to the Darkside, he even almost admitted that he LOVED Osha (his love 4 her was too strong)

[@dice268926]

This series is the reason Jedi were apart of the senate. & Sith going unchecked in the background of the Republic leading to Palpatine. I had to rewatch Darth Maul (fan film 🎥) on YT after, it went PERFECTLY

[@IggyStardust1967]

3:20 - THIS!!!!! Absolutely THIS!!!! It's what I've been saying for the last month, that no one seems to realize. It all comes down to "A certain point of view", as Obi-Wan told Luke in Return of the Jedi. It's what this whole damned series revolved around. I noticed that in episode 3, and have been saying it for weeks. 4:50 - "Another happy landing." - Obi-Wan Kenobi (sorry..... I just HAD to say it) 5:50 - I mean... he's not entirely wrong..... 7:52 - "The Dark Side of The Force is a pathway to MANY abilities..... some consider to be..... unnatural." - Palpatine.

[@rossiammery6815]

Yeah, in the end, some of the questions is answered, but it like " take it or leave it" . Sol monologue in the end is like. " I don't know why, but i want it. (Vergence) No wonder i want it so bad.(Lost mae) I only get half of it, okay. ( Mae return) Okay i want it again, or do i??. ( Confronted) There is nothing wrong in wanting it. Then he died. Huh, that's it.

[@kevin-2.1]

I was surprise that Darth Plagues made an appearance. But my only problem with this is, why didn’t he appeared more in the show? Also I was disappointed that Mae got away with it. As for bottling up the Jedi’s emotions was hard for them, it only takes one slip before a catastrophe strikes.

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Omni! 🌑 Wookieepedia is listing that Muun in the shadows as being the first canonical depiction of 'Plagueis', indeed. 🔸 And how wild to see a kyber crystal actually being bled?!

[@darkceptor44]

Overall I enjoyed it, when the show was announced I thought it was gonna be way more about the Sith but the last two episodes got close to that and if we get a S2 it looks like it will be going more in that direction. The show wasn't perfect but I don't think it deserves the 3.7 IMDB rating, if I don't like something I'll give it a 6 or 7 because it conveys the point, *as with everything the loud majority are being way too dramatic and spoiled*, hopefully this time they don't ruin the fun by getting the show cancelled forever, and hopefully the rating increases.

[@youtuberzero2583]

So she killed her "Sol" to become an Acolyte of evil. Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Padawan Osha?

[@jasonmarbach]

Been waiting for your reaction! For me, this was an 11/10, S tier season finale, and I cannot WAIT to get a confirmation of a season 2, hopefully by D23.

[@justaguy4402]

Do you need to copy and paste this on every video? Are you trying to shape some narrative or something? Don't get me wrong I liked the episode but come on this isnt the way.

[@jasonmarbach]

@@justaguy4402It’s not that deep, dude, I come engage with content creators I like by leaving comments with my actual feelings. It’s just to participate in the conversation and give creators I like a bump in the algorithm.

[@koyapol]

S tier? 🤣

[@titanonline8908]

@@justaguy4402why does it matter to you lol ? Just scroll. Some ppl like to share their thoughts and engage w ppl

[@joshmox1507]

does D23 mean December 23rd? thats such a long time just to confirm a new season let alone start making it

[@berighteous]

Bazil Knows.

[@francisco_m7849]

😊 I think that the reason Andor has worked so well up to this point is that it’s a very specific pinpoint moment. In time that was being explored. It wasn’t a Galactic threat type level. It wasn’t until the very very end of the series that you saw what the consequences of everything that was going on was leading towards, and that was the death star. Even with Mandalorian, it starts out very specific, but then when you start building out into the greater outer world, it kinda loses itself. At least with Mandalorian, they are now dropping to a major film, which I think is the best idea.

[@jasonmarbach]

Yeah that was definitely Plagueis 🤩

[@ImpossibleCaseEdits]

Although I enjoyed the show, the story could easily be restructured and trimmed into a movie fan edit. I might have to give it a go one of these days.

[@Andrew-Bastin]

This series suffers from the same issues as the Obi Wan series, too much padding for too little story. And like Obi Wan this could easily be re-edited into a movie and the whole story would flow much better.

[@shaunjp2211]

Maybe this shouldn't be thought of in Star Wars, but something different is all about the dark side of the force and the choice of someone to become an apprentice. You've summed up the show best I've seen. I did enjoy the show 8.5/10

[@dungeonmaster16]

im gonna say this for the star wars shows and what you said on about get someone to edit them down: yes i agree they should do this. do something how japan does anime with show to film format. you can do a near 3 hour movie of acolyte by editing out the fluff/fill in scenes, better connect scenes, maybe add in scenes left out that could better improve whats going on and such. not just acolyte but stuff like kenobi for exm could use this too. on anime part: mainly mechas do this on show to film format to cut out fluff dialogue/excessive back lore or pointless scenes while add in new scenes to make moment more interesting/cooler.

[@TheVas76]

First, I actually think Vernestra's goal now is to stop Qimir and actually do right by Mae since she's really a victim in this whole thing. I think she'll have full disclosure with Yoda. He keeps a lot of secrets. Finally, I agree it was a great episode and could have been a great season with a better managed script and editing.

[@francisco_m7849]

😊 hey Omn1. So first of all, thanks for doing the whole run of the acolyte appreciated to no end. I agree with what your assessment of the series. I too felt that story structure wise. It didn’t come off as well as it should have they had a lot of potential, but there was not enough meat on the bone to release sustain the overall plot. As I’ve said a whole bunch of other times if this was a one or two movie event for television, it probably had a a lot better chance of doing well. Overall, this is better than some of the other shows. They have tried to explore the whole Jedi order mythology They’ve had on TV. I still consider Andor at the top, followed by Mandalorian and then acolyte as far as live action. When it comes to the animated side of Star Wars, even then it took them quite a while to get their footing. I think that’s the problem with Star Wars in general is that it’s really much more of a movie. Spectacular type genre an ongoing TV genre.

[@AirDave15]

Bassel stands on business

[@mellisima6451]

I agree, I didn’t hate the show but I didn’t love it either. There was solid points in the show epic fights and the mystery was good they just couldn’t stick the landing of making it a great show. I wouldn’t mind a Season 2 based on Qimir and the sith but who knows with all the negative reviews.

[@paranormalphoenix3317]

I think if the flashback episodes had been combined in episode 1 and then ended with a 16 years later card and met Osha on the ship she was working on in the first epsiode and then pick back up there in episode 2, that would have worked a lot better. Maybe have a few details hidden and then short flashbacks at key points of the show through conversation between characters would have been much more effective. Because to me the 2 full episode flashbacks really hurt the flow of the story and any connection the audience was trying to form with the main cast. By the end, I honestly didn't care one bit about Mae or Osha.

[@kandy1515]

It was a sith legend👀

[@ryanolsen3732]

Osha kills one Jedi = red lightsaber Anakin slaughtering Jedi temple = blue lightsaber

[@pictureperfect3211]

Osha bled her Chrystal, Anakin did not. How did you not understand that?

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

Osha learning her life is a lie and her father figure was the person she should’ve been hating all this time, killing him purely through the force= bleeds crystal Anakin, killing people he barely knew with his saber and an army= doesn’t bleed crystal.

[@Dicko2909]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 Which would be fine if he didn't choke Padme and try to murder Obi Wan later in the film.

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

@@Dicko2909 yeah but then it wouldn’t be blue on blue with a red environment, and that’s dope as fuck

[@usernameunknown69]

Last seconds of the show have me HYPE, never been so happy to see a bald green head in my life, great show I enjoyed it 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@nishia_brownie988]

I need that mug

[@Cognus1234]

Dude the point of hiding is to not get caught lol

[@Eziali]

I've been seeing some comments I agree with that I think we needed two mor episodes to get a stronger feel for what's happening with Qmir and Osha because there's not a lot of why they are so comfortable with each other and I rhink and episode of just them like episode 6 would have better shaped how Osha was so okay with him as an opposing force in the finale as well as with the Jedi and the Senate. I think this would be great for a season 2 set up, but I think this series was just a bit too short.

[@lynnestrem2047]

It's an elaborate version of "Who's the A-hole"

[@star_panic]

the 30 min, 8 episodes really hurt the show. It could have been a movie tbh. hopefully they make a s2 and grant them more time

[@jamielong8976]

I dunno, this show didn’t really do it for me. Some good concepts but it felt so oddly paced - like to me it seemed as if things were tied up quickly but weirdly drawn out at the same time? But yeah, I agree with you in that it didn’t feel worth the effort.

[@Jjj-zz7bz]

Sol was 100% wrong with what happened on Brendok. Mae was manipulated by the other mother and the fire was an accident. She was also 8 years old

[@francisco_m7849]

If in fact, they green light a continuation of the acolyte I hope that they decide to make it as a TV movie full length rather than series because it would probably be better

[@kobrajr25]

The story is what I call a Bulletin board story, it looks create on a Bulletin board when you know Where you wanna start and where you want to end the problem is in actually making it they had no clue how to get their and how to make it compelling along the way

[@OneMikeREV]

I really hope this show gets a Season 2. Because the fandom is quick to kill a show if it doesn't hit all the marks and for a story that clearly has more to tell, it should have the chance to tell it. Like Omn1 said, theirs some good stuff to found in this show, like fight choreography, music and some of the story elements look promising. And in the same breath, the editing and pacing definitely needs work and some line deliveries from some characters could've been better. So with a 2nd Season, they can get an opportunity to expand upon these story elements while improving on the areas they fell short on. Looking back on a lot of shows over the years, I rather a show start off rough and improve over time than it start off strong then fall short. Also @Omn1Media I have a theory about Sol. Over the episodes as the story progressed, Sol seemed to become more and more unhinged. I initially thought it was guilt that drove him but looking back at the flashback episode, Sol seemed to be immediately obsessed with the twins out the gate, to the point that the Master Indara was telling him to calm down. What if, the twins being vergences in the Force, they unbalance certain Force users, those who are highly attuned but suspectable. Because looking at Sol from episode 1, he was calm and level headed but once he got back in contact with Osha again and started looking for Mae, he started acting like his younger self, obsessing over these girls, despite his Jedi training of no attachment. I don't know, might be reading too much into it but it's something to ponder on

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

The fight choreography was the only thing that was CONSISTENTLY good throughout the series.

[@Zarathusta]

The fears of the Jedi are shown perfectly in the NJO and Legacy era novels/comics that showed government worries about the Jedi's role in the galaxy. In the Legends continuity, that I and so many others like more, it's full of mostly politics with a sprinkling of epic battles. Luke did a lot of flip flopping on allowing government accountability or staying apart from politics and ultimately settles on being apart from the government so they can do whatever they feel is needed. At the end of the day, Jedi are best when they act like Krakoan Era X-Men and do whatever they feel they should without being held accountable to any government power. Also means not having the cushy government pay, support and stuff. The fact of the matter is that Old Republic, High Republic Jedi like the power working with the government gives them too much. They care more about public perception, not making enemies in the Senate and the like to handle the real threats in the galaxy. That all catches up to them. Very different from the NJO of Legends that wouldn't hesitate to fight whatever enemy they needed with very little to sometimes zero government support. I kind of like this contrast. Lastly, the main reason why the Jedi are at fault for killing the Witches, is that they shouldn't have gone to their compound in the first place. They were given a clear order to leave them alone and disobeyed it. It'd be like if trained soldiers barged into your home after the pentagon gave them a specific order not to do so. Basically, High Council would have given the two that invaded the worst punishments.

[@margolitapnina6716]

Love Bazil ❤

[@newhappiness4410]

Love your videos. Unfortunately my option I felt sick after “eating this meal” characters are too grey. As you don’t know completely who’s good? whos bad? Which leaves you with less connection with the characters. Agree loved Sol and Jeki but Sol’s ending left a sour taste

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

The fact that you needed to be handed a good guy and bad guy to make a story something you connect to is… concerning. It’s way easier to connect with a story that lacks that. Because that’s how reality works. There’s always nuance.

[@newhappiness4410]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 it’s just an opinion everyone has their own it’s not a criticism. You don’t have t agree but you don’t have to attack someone for it. Please respect on these channels as I love his videos

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

@@newhappiness4410 I can have the opinion that your opinion is dangerous. Reducing any conflict to “good guy/bad guy” is a legitimately dangerous thing.

[@newhappiness4410]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 to me Star Wars is about good or bad not in between it’s about the struggle to get to that point. It’s just to me this series didn’t have a clear direction. This is supposed to be a story that has an ending so you miss interpret that. It’s the shows theme that doesn’t attach you to the characters is we dont know where they stand.

[@newhappiness4410]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 also you got my meaning wrong as it’s not what I’m saying. At end of day. Acolyte will always DIVIDE because it has good points and bad. Ive followed Star Wars for years OT fan and always knew it as conflict between good and bad but from the start you always knew who was good or bad but struggled with it. In this show from the start you didn’t

[@aprilnewell5434]

This show reminds me of the prequels in execution.

[@jasonmarbach]

You definitely seem to be in the minority with bazil, my guy 🤣❤️

[@jaimeguzman9275]

I feel exactly the same way you do. I wanted to like it. It had the potential to be a good story. It feels like it needed a couple of more drafts and some things needed to be re=ordered. Sadly, I don't think it'll get a second season because of the unwarranted toxicity surrounding this show and it's EP.

[@kayaleandreaspencer631]

👩🏾‍💻👩🏾‍💻 I agree with a lot of what you said, that's why I wished at least the shows would have gone more toward Star Wars Legends. In the books Luke leans away from the swallowing of your emotions overall, he's married with a child and that's ok. I've learned over the years the best Jedi's are those who kinda go their own way like Revan (I know his background is crazy) he does a lot of what he feels is right. Out of all the Jedi though I love those who are embedded in communities across the galaxy, it keeps them grounded and close to the people who they're supposed to be serving! Jedi have no business being beholden to a political body period!! Thank Omn1 for at least giving the show a fair chance 🙋🏾‍♀️🙋🏾‍♀️

[@Dicko2909]

There are plot holes in this show that Krennic could fly the death-star through. "A rogue Jedi named Sol killed his accomplices to maintain the cover story." Wow like this Sol jedi has like Luke Skywalker levels of power to be able to kill another jedi on a different planet while also looking exactly like his old padawan. No wonder Yoda wanted him out of the picture. It's a good job the writers made sure there were no witnesses to this crime. I mean it would make them look really stupid if the person who saw Indara murdered were to show up and mistakenly identify Osha instead of Mae. Good job that never happened. But back to Sol though he's even managed to wipe the minds of all the jedi (and cameras) that he was in the temple so that if something happened to him the jedi wouldn't be blamed. He's like Super-Jedi.

[@balletabela]

"Was it actually Mae though?" was pretty spot on at the beginning. Still, it feels like predictable consequences from a rather simple series of bad decisions. I think every reactor I've watched saw it coming, that Osha would be the dark side acolyte. This has got to be the only Star Wars story that disappointed me and I've enjoyed all the others. I think I expected more. Sol and Qimir were such strong characters, the fights were so good. How do you lose your memory and not look distressed? And Osha had so many ping pong motivations, and the Yord and Jecki deaths didn't seem to weigh much. Oh well, time to be the worst force users lol.

[@YourNeighborhoodItalian]

You’re 100% right Omni.. Mae and Oshas arcs are confusing and the weakest part of the show. This show needed a SEASONED writer to polish this shit up. There was a good show in there somewhere

[@hohomon]

I want season2!

[@HowardLogan-gv5kc]

Same! I loved this show!

[@janedoe327]

I want a season two to see where the story will go but I fear all the haters are going to ruin it for everyone else who can be mature enough to remain objective and curious about the future of this storyline. The haters aren't satisfied with living in their own miserable world they create for themselves they have to f it up for the rest of us.

[@justinnbucano5443]

I never seen a Qiber crystal get blooded b4 that was crzy

[@spiritskyes]

It's really too bad that the ability to have a genuine conversation about this show's virtues and faults has been so thoroughly shot to hell by the bad faith actors screeching about "wOkE" and, like, Ki-Adi Mundi's age.

[@BassLineProductionsI]

Would Quimir's lightsaber have two crystals? The second being for the detachable smaller saber, I wasnt as impressed with this series as id hoped id be but I wasnt entirely disappointed. I liked episode 5 but the pacing and dialog as a whole seemed rather cheap to me which is shocking in comparison to things like Andor

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

I think it’s interesting you say the ep7 reveals weren’t satisfying with the buildup, but you spent so much time discussing it and the complexity of the details. I think that’s the point. It’s so much more complex than any one character really understood. Nearly everyone held fault. The entire point of the two flashbacks is demonstrating the way perspective massively shifts how an event is viewed. Torbin and Sol viewed everything as being their fault because they didn’t know the witches were planning to fight them. Mae directs her own guilt and blames the Jedi for everything because she can’t accept how much she escalated things. Osha only sees Mae try to kill her then the Jedi saving her. I feel like the moral complexity made for a more satisfying payoff than the events depicted, and I think that’s kind of the point. To us it’s morally complex, but in the eyes of those involved, you want someone to blame. The greater nuance being reduced in the eyes of the characters is why this snowballed into the tragic outcome we got. I do appreciate the layered perspective you have, it does feel like it’s coming from a place of wanting this to be the best it could be, I’m just not really there with you on it. I love the boys at blind wave being so positive, and while plenty of folks like the Rejects just feel, at best, extremely nit-picky with this show, you feel pretty fair. It’s hard to land in a more neutral stance when it comes to criticism these days. I’m sure this is a show that people’s feelings will change to as they rewatch it and think more about it. Watching reactions has helped me deepen my own appreciation and interpretation of things. Definitely a show that you need to sit with to fully get your thoughts on. I really hope they get season 2, there’s some very strong setup going on for it. Not only would developing Plagueis be hugely interesting, but I think much of what those like you take issue with has potential to be improved. Even stuff like Sol, flashbacks and reinterpretations of the past could still be a major element going forward.

[@brucewilson3226]

The structure is this show is flawed because like most of the Disney+ SW shows they’re written like a movie and then they try cut it as an episodic story and it doesn’t quite work. I hope they do a second season or story but instead of a show they conclude this story arc as a movie. I think that should be model going forward since they’re a little timid doing trilogies. Set up a character and story on Disney + then finish as a cinematic event.

[@ItsoKuri]

Lol I've said this to a few people already but Sol was the perfect example of a cop sticking his nose in where it had no business being. Funny how he accidentally also kills the black person thinking he's doing the "right" thing?

[@SpiralTheFirst]

This show has some great parts and some bad parts, and hell that’s basically every single movie aswell. I loved this show idc it was great

[@CrossOutBryce]

4:11 Yeah I enjoyed the show, but I really didn't see the point of Bazil at all

[@ElsePerson]

Killing Sol off like that is gonna be this series' downfall

[@rhaenatargaryen8061]

Tbh i did love mae and osha. mostly mae bc amandlas performance was so endearing to me, but most of my criticisms are also about how the shows pacing and episode count limited the full extent of their potential. They're not as bad as i see some people saying though lmfao not by a long shot.

[@Regarl_]

I must say me having mixed feelings about this show sums it up pretty well. I love the fights in the show, they did a great job making every characters fighting style different. I like some characters mostly Sol and Quimir, as well as some side characters. This show has problems, no doubt, our two main characters don´t interest me and bore me; the dialogue is really something they need to work on at times. Still I feel like they did a good job when it comes to worldbuilding, the different philosophies of characters and their approach to the force is great and super interesting and I hope this show gets a second season to actually show that they can build upon the great foundations that this show has.