The AD “Ruined” My Rolex Datejust

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Brock McGoff

Brock McGoff

Күн бұрын

I did something that many watch enthusiasts consider sacrilege: I had my vintage Rolex Datejust totally refurbished, including a new dial and bracelet. Many watch collectors believe that, as long as a watch is still ticking and keeping decent time, you shouldn’t mess with it.
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Like, don’t get the scratches buffed out. Don’t change the dial or hands, even if they’re tarnished. Patina is good. Over-polishing is bad. Swapping in new parts will “ruin” your vintage watch. I disagree. I don’t see a point in preserving old stuff just for the aesthetic.
I mean, I like patina. I can appreciate someone’s raw denim progress pics. But I don’t want to actually wear those jeans. I want to create my own sick fades. (Actually, to be honest, I’ve never been able to really get into raw denim…way too much work!)
In other words, to me, patina is special because it’s personal. But why am I talking about this? My first luxury watch, and actually the only one that I own right now, was a Rolex Datejust 16030. It was manufactured in 1984 (making it just a few months older than me).
When it came time (pun intended) to have this watch serviced, I had to decide whether or not to have Rolex replace some key components that would essentially transform it into a new and slightly different/more modern watch. This video explains my decision and thought process.
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@SunsetSheen
@SunsetSheen 2 ай бұрын
$2800 well spent. The watch looks amazing. Slate Grey / Rhodium is one of the most underrated dial colors out there.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
I agree, love Rolex greys!
@richreyes1214
@richreyes1214 2 ай бұрын
Wear your watch and do what you want with it, it's your watch! Great move Brock. Almost like restoring a classic car but adding a few modern but still tasteful upgrades. Truthfully I've been looking for the same reference you have since you released your first video about it. Something about the engine-turned bezel really makes your reference unique!
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, the engine turned bezel is a rare sight these days. Definitely a cool vintage detail. If you're in the market, prices seem to be going down a bit lately (and will probably continue to for a while).
@turnerc7
@turnerc7 2 ай бұрын
@BroadwaySamFlowers a vintage datejust isnt worth that, not for the most part. they can be had for the 3-5k range.
@WatchesCanBeFun
@WatchesCanBeFun 2 ай бұрын
Going vintage because it’s only what you can afford is so real. It looks good, glad you’re happy with it!
@jerryglasses2229
@jerryglasses2229 2 ай бұрын
To many people think their Rolex is so special when 99% are mass produced and not really collectable beyond the Name on the dial. Sure if yoh have a truly colectable Rolex then best not to refurbish. Collectable cars are restored. Collectable art is restored. You did it the right way going to Rolex and not aftermarket parts.
@wristopia4101
@wristopia4101 2 ай бұрын
Cars and art are restored sympathetically. This watch has not been. It's neither been sympathetically restored, or back to factory (as I have done with a Rolex that's now vintage) restored. It's been completely changed and is now a bit of a mess IMO.
@animator-aditya
@animator-aditya 2 ай бұрын
At the end, when you mention that your kids will know every scratch and mark on the watch will be from you really touched me. What a beautiful sentiment, I never thought about how patina on our possessions are evidence of our life’s journey and our personal history. I have watches and jewelry from my late grandparents that have scratches and damage on them and I will never see them the same way again, They have a lot more meaning for me now. Thank you for that. Great video as always!
@RedwoodAggie
@RedwoodAggie 19 күн бұрын
I'm a watch enthusiast, and I think you did the right thing. Also, I think the Oyster bracelet looks great on your DJ.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 18 күн бұрын
Thank you sir!
@AAAAA-dw4kj
@AAAAA-dw4kj Ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for making it, didnt know you could do such a thorough refurbishing for old models and even swap out bracelet styles, really helps to know that this is possible
@SiskoSvK
@SiskoSvK 2 ай бұрын
People need to understand that watch is a tool, and as long as it's doesn't have a certain historical or sentimental value, it shouldn't be babied.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
I fully agree!
@montys8th
@montys8th 2 ай бұрын
The one thing you didn't mention that helps justify your decision is that by having Rolex do the service it comes back with a Rolex Service Warranty Card. This is a way of legitimising a vintage piece that may not have it's box and papers anymore.
@UGA.D
@UGA.D 2 ай бұрын
Patina is Italian for "Damage." I'm totally with you on this.
@heric_
@heric_ 2 ай бұрын
Not exactly. The concept is slightly different. It is like something that the aging process leaves on an object, of any kind, that is brand new. It is not necessarily a "damage." It could be a slight stain caused by weathering or a slightly turned color or the effect of time turning copper into a light blue color. Source : I am Italian.
@popecosh307
@popecosh307 22 күн бұрын
I don’t know there’s just something about the jubilee/datejust combo that looks right. The oyster bracelet doesn’t look bad but I think I’d always go jubilee.
@andrewcanella
@andrewcanella Ай бұрын
Hey Brock - great video. What shirt / jacket is that? Looks great on you
@mcdouche2
@mcdouche2 2 ай бұрын
I like to think that Butch Coolidge Jr. watched this video and decided to have his Great-Great Grandfather's war watch rebuilt. A storied history that particular watch had, to be sure.
@Ferien7
@Ferien7 2 ай бұрын
Not being able to decide what happens to my watch during servicing is why I don’t buy Rolex. But I’m one of those that wants to preserve patina and wear. It’s what personalizes the watch. You should do what makes you happy.
@rampantcolt
@rampantcolt 2 ай бұрын
I had my 17000 serviced and they changed out everything. It looks amazing. I was very happy with their work. It’s like a new Rolex all over again.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@ATIWatchReviews
@ATIWatchReviews Ай бұрын
It looks amazing, but I would have expected a taupe replacement as per the original. Also, if they're replacing the bracelet surely they give you a modern clasp for 2800 bucks!
@inlandwatchreviews5745
@inlandwatchreviews5745 2 ай бұрын
My 2007 Milgauss is at the AD getting polished, it will be like a new watch when I pick it up. that date just looks great enjoy
@Eliehbk
@Eliehbk Ай бұрын
I have been swapping Rolex watches the past three years every 4-6 months or so. Seeing your story with your 1984 watch and how you restored it and plan to wear it till the end of time, made me feel beyond silly with my new watch acquisition syndrome. I think I will follow suit and will keep my latest to pass on to someone else who will also enjoy it. Wear yours in good health and thank you for the great video - already subscribed!
@ransom1004
@ransom1004 2 ай бұрын
You can require that Rolex leave the original dial and to not polish the watch. My father just had his 1970's Date-just fully serviced and they didn't touch the dial per his request, as well as asking if he wanted a full polish. I daily a 116710LN, but just got allocated my first Rolex from their flagship location in my hometown. Date-just 36 mint green, domed on oyster. Absolutely love it, there is a subtle charm to the 36 DJ that sports models simply lack. Hard to explain.
@kylena7533
@kylena7533 2 ай бұрын
When I'm not running one of my vintage DJs, I run a CASIO f-104 as well. You got good taste. Awesome video.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Great minds think alike 🤝
@aussieexpatwatches
@aussieexpatwatches Ай бұрын
Absolutely destroyed! Kidding. Whatever gets you wearing the watch. I'm curious what would have happened if you sent this for a "full overhaul" from a shop like rolliworks...
@mahdiahmad
@mahdiahmad 2 ай бұрын
Good breakdown of your watch getting overhauled at the Rolex service center. I had my done in 2022 and the warranty card they gave me was an all green laminated paper. The new warranty card apparently is plastic. I want a dial swap and Rolex told me that an overhaul is required.
@koolpep
@koolpep 2 ай бұрын
Am with you there. Make your own story with the watch, scratch it yourself, don’t wear other people’s stories (unless they are family or friends) having a vintage watch that looks like new is a very good thing, collectors are a weird subspecies that always have very strong opinions, but you do you and what makes you happy, all that counts.
@KK_21
@KK_21 Ай бұрын
You did an excellent choice! When our luxury watch needs to be serviced it should be serviced by the AD, in the same way you would do for your car! Looks fantastic!
@kevinong1735
@kevinong1735 2 ай бұрын
3:10 At that moment, a commercial popped up… 🤣
@Ferien7
@Ferien7 2 ай бұрын
Also, would be great to see a watch collection update
@troyharkcom6441
@troyharkcom6441 2 ай бұрын
That’s awesome you decided what you wanted, and did it. No matter what the community deems “this is correct or not”. If it’s gonna make you wear it more, then it’s worth it!!!
@joeaugustine9629
@joeaugustine9629 2 ай бұрын
I have found that the number one reason many so called "collectors" don't want you to restore a Rolex is a reason they will never admit: They don't want your older Rolex to look as good as the newer one they have - and maybe seldom wear.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
It does seem like a sneaky way to get a like-new Rolex for less money (and without waiting).
@carolinefiller3745
@carolinefiller3745 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful watch, i vastly prefer the oyster bracelet
@wristopia4101
@wristopia4101 2 ай бұрын
That's one of the most bizarre things I have ever heard. How did you find this gem out exactly if they never admitted it? 😂😂😂
@wristopia4101
@wristopia4101 2 ай бұрын
@@carolinefiller3745 Me too, just not on this watch.
@wristopia4101
@wristopia4101 2 ай бұрын
@@BrockMcGoff I wouldn't buy a Datejust these days, but how much did it cost you (in total)? If it was 5 years from buying it to getting back from service then that's way longer than waiting. 'Waiting' is a moot point anyway, but pretty sure a DJ would not have much of a wait (5 years ago or now). It's still nothing like new (apart from the bracelet and dial which literally are!). Power reserve is a big one (guess you will say you don't care). As you mention cost, you now have a bracelet you don't need, a weird mix of parts, and the resale is shot. New would have a five year warranty, v two years on a service watch. You said you bought it because you liked the jangly bracelet and dial colour...... then re bought both! People generally buy vintage because they want vintage. This 'Sneaky' route seems very odd and like fools gold to me. Worked well for a KZbin video for you though ; )
@michaelhamilton812
@michaelhamilton812 2 ай бұрын
Finally, an opinion that is fresh and very much needed. The family pool shot....Money!
@nickkambitis5340
@nickkambitis5340 2 ай бұрын
You did the right thing. I own an oyster precision bought from new in 1984. It’s 40 years old this year. I keep it in pristine condition. I’ve had it serviced a few times, so it’s re polished with new crystal. It’s a hand me down.
@jorgerosas5138
@jorgerosas5138 2 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. I get that patina “tells the watch’s story” but I want the watch to tell MY story. I bought a vintage Omega Seamaster and after a few months off to Omega it went for a service. No regrets.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Very nice!
@franciscoalmazanalhambra6965
@franciscoalmazanalhambra6965 Ай бұрын
You definitely chose the best dial for that particular watch. I love grey Rolex dials, they´re a lot rarer and more stylish than pure silver ones.
@adamjustinmoseley
@adamjustinmoseley 2 ай бұрын
I think you nailed it. That watch looks great... better than before. And that dial is perfect with that bezel. Well done!
@metal_et_al
@metal_et_al Ай бұрын
While I am one of those who likes to preserve the original bits, I have to say that your watch still retains a definite vintage vibe to it! Well done!
@BensWatchClub
@BensWatchClub 2 ай бұрын
Great job with the footage Brock 💪
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Ben! Taking some pages directly out of your playbook. That VAER video was niiice btw 👌🏼
@NeonMako
@NeonMako 2 ай бұрын
I'm with you on this. How you maintain a watch is dependent on how you use it. If you're actually wearing a watch all the time, it only makes sense to keep it in good condition. If it's a museum/show piece, then by all means keep it original. But in a way, by sending it in to get repaired, the watch is actually changing and evolving with you, which is better in my mind than it aging and becoming a fragile memory instead of a watch you wear daily.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Well said!
@stratussurfer8765
@stratussurfer8765 2 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video, Brock. Currently rocking the Seiko SNXS79, also known as the 'poor man's Datejust'. Not quite a Rolex, but an awesome watch nevertheless!
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Nice, enjoy it!
@SOCerberus94
@SOCerberus94 2 ай бұрын
This is refreshing. I bought my first one serviced and refinished. I don’t want John Does’ scratches and dings, to hell with his patina.
@rjo8500
@rjo8500 Ай бұрын
As an owner of an all original Datejust 16013 (1983, two tone, champagne, jubilee, fluted) I think your watch with it’s upgrades looks great.
@bertholdbach4959
@bertholdbach4959 Ай бұрын
2:34 That was a good one. I dont like that all or nothing approach from Rolex when it comes to service. I recently had to service my old Breitling Aerospace from the mid 80s. I could choose whatever option I wanted, so I choose the movemen replacement (since the original one was kaputt) with full service on the Case and replacing the crystal. I decided against replacing the bracelet (since I liked the look) and replacing the dial (since It says "Naitimer" on it and the newer ones dont). I really appriciated that. But on the other hand, it worked out for you and your watch looks like new.
@stevem863
@stevem863 2 ай бұрын
Turned out great. I would have opted for the service and upgrades as well.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@DrifterDavid
@DrifterDavid Ай бұрын
My big gripe with Rolex service is they chuck your old parts. You could probably have sold the face for what you paid for the repairs. But Rolex just chucks it and imo kinda screws ya in the process. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't restore the old parts themselves and use em in certified pre-owned watches. But love the watch, it looks great. I love the bracelet choice!
@jamespatrick8137
@jamespatrick8137 2 ай бұрын
Love you wear your damn watch mentality! Too many people put watches in graveyard lock boxes and create no bond with them
@caddyzig
@caddyzig Ай бұрын
Looks great! (Your arms are looking great, too!) What bracelet are you wearing on your right wrist?
@nikoandroman
@nikoandroman Ай бұрын
I’m a Jubilee die hard fan but I agree it looks more “dressy” even though it isn’t a dressy bracelet. Your watch looks incredible, congratulations
@Theo-ul8qm
@Theo-ul8qm 2 ай бұрын
This thinking of not restoring vintage watches comes mostly from collectors who own and buy watches with historical value. Watches for which originality is a big part of their value because they show what a watch that is no longer produced looked like when it was new or nearly new. For watches that you want to wear, this does not apply. Of course you feel more comfortable wearing a watch that has a secure bracelet and has gone through a pressure test. I don't see anything wrong with what you did, Brock, because this watch is one that you want to wear and use. Wear it in good health man! P. S. A good lesson for people to take from this experience might be that if you want to wear your watch daily, going new is probably better than going vintage. With the price you paid for the watch, plus the Rolex service, you would have probably been able to purchase a new Datejust.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Well said! I'd also recommend buying new if you have the budget and don't want vintage. But the total price of this (preowned + service) is still a couple thousand less than new, assuming you can get one from your AD.
@TonyGenerali
@TonyGenerali 2 ай бұрын
I think you nailed it with the overhaul! Looks fantastic and as you said, now you can comfortably and confidently wear it for years to come with the possibility of it being an heirloom, passed down for generations! You mentioned getting the bracelet back. Did you also get the dial back? Curious about that for sure.
@m4ttyb0y22
@m4ttyb0y22 2 ай бұрын
I remember the video you posted when you bought it. Wow time flies! It looks beautiful.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Time does fly! Thank you 🙏🏻
@Bryan-se3ov
@Bryan-se3ov 2 ай бұрын
Good move going with an oyster band. I got my first Rolex two years ago and went with a DJ 41 smooth bezel oyster band, and I love how versatile it is. Looks good with a tux and looks good with a polo.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Love that configuration, nice choice!
@b_altmann
@b_altmann 2 ай бұрын
I would also prefer a new dial to one that’s corroded from tritium. They do also replace the case if the lugs have been ground down too much. Laser welding is not an option with drilled lug holes. But replacing the case means a new serial number. Unless it’s a rare piece that spends its time in a cabinet or safe, it’s mostly about function for me. That DateJust is looking good now!
@marcuskusicki3870
@marcuskusicki3870 2 ай бұрын
Good for you, I’d take working lume and water resistance over “patina” any day👏
@FlyingTigersKMT
@FlyingTigersKMT 2 ай бұрын
I refurbished my 60s vintage Rolex with a new dial and polished the glass when I sent it to the factory for service. The bracelet was still fine so I left it.
@WaelAKamel
@WaelAKamel Ай бұрын
Jubliee with smooth here, Love it, glad youre enjoying it! congrats on a superb service
@yardsale
@yardsale Ай бұрын
I had my Rolex GMT 1675 serviced. It was 50 years old and I had it fully serviced from Rolex and paid the extra money to be able to have the privilege of keeping all the old parts. Now it will last for another 50 years hopefully it looks brand new.
@DesertEagleA
@DesertEagleA Ай бұрын
great thinking, great watch, great taste, and great video. had a blast !
@rickyhou7684
@rickyhou7684 2 ай бұрын
I have always loved your watch videos. I don’t know what it is. I understand this is not a watch channel, but your watch videos are always something i love to watch. Including your style boots and jackets videos! Also did you get rid of your Explorer 1?! 😢
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Glad you like them, I'll make more! Yeah, I got rid of it. Great little watch, but I use the date window all the time.
@rickyhou7684
@rickyhou7684 2 ай бұрын
@@BrockMcGoff so awesome! Love lots of your videos! It’s a shame to see the Explorer out of your of collection. :( but I know if you made the decision I’m sure you know what your style is and are happy with what you have. I’m trying to downsize my watch collection. Really looking forward to see your updated collection!
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
@@rickyhou7684thank you! Yeah it was a tough choice, but I also tried on the new version (124270) and figured I’d try to snag that one if I realllly missed having a 36 Explorer. It is a great watch!
@mlogicli
@mlogicli 22 күн бұрын
Love the restoration work. I'd do the same for everything else but only if they could find a similar looking dial. I don't like the idea of getting a different looking dial.
@beckerborg
@beckerborg Ай бұрын
Great video. Do you have a favorite double loop leather men’s bracelet? Thank you
@EverydayAddams
@EverydayAddams Ай бұрын
I have an all-original 16013 that I'm holding off on servicing. I need to do more thinking-- I'm stuck in a "ship of theseus" paradox. If you get a watch fully refurbished, is it really even the same watch? I haven't decided whether I believe sentimentality can remain if the physical parts have been replaced.
@EffortlessGentTV
@EffortlessGentTV 2 ай бұрын
Great take! Another example of the fact that there are no absolutes when it comes to personal style, preference, etc. It’s all subjective. The v2 of that 16030 looks awesome (esp w the Oyster bracelet). TBH seeing it fully submerged at 10:50 still made me butt pucker a bit tho, ngl 😅
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Thanks B! Yeah, I still get some mild puckering at the pool, but I think it'll relax with time. Btw, it was seeing your DJ years ago (maybe during the first StyleCon?) that sent me down this whole watch rabbit hole!
@Jcampbell4321
@Jcampbell4321 Ай бұрын
They can do what you want. It’s not all or nothing. My 116710 LN was damaged really bad and I fixed only what I wanted along with a polish. To fix it to the best amount. I didn’t replace specific things that I didn’t want.
@Jcampbell4321
@Jcampbell4321 Ай бұрын
And sent it to Dallas service center too.
@madbrainmakesnosense8229
@madbrainmakesnosense8229 2 ай бұрын
First of all, its your watch so you should do whatever you want with it. I like that you don't baby your watch. Nevertheless, I would not have Rolex change the dial to something else. When they are not able to replace with the correct one I don't get why it is not possible to clean and keep the old one. If you have got back the old as a spare part, its ok, if it is lost it is a shame. But that is just my opinion.
@andrestenstrup1042
@andrestenstrup1042 2 ай бұрын
Well Rolex in the USA may say you need to replace everyting, but in Denmark they do as you want to. My 1603 from 1968 got a service 5,5 years ago, and there were no scrates anywhere. It had been polished 2 years before and used very little. The service the movement and installed a new crown and crowntube and gaskets and crystal in order to make sure the watch was 100 % waterresistant so I could swim with which I did. The offered me a new dial and hands if I wanted to, but I said I wanted to keep it as orginal as possible. The watchnaker said he totally understod. The jubilee bracelet has worn pins inside, but they did not ask me to get a new bracelet. A bracelet can be repaired by a few watchmakers who put new pins in the bracelet for I think 300 - 400 US dollars. The bad think is that the old parts are not returned. Omega does that. Anyway. One of the the reasons for a new dial made on today Rolex watches datejust, can´t be choosen is, that the dial feets does not fit the movement. But you did have many dials to choose from. But now you have a watch that is like new much more than other vintage watches.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Interesting! Good to know. One thing, though: they only keep the dials. Bracelets are returned.
@jerryglasses2229
@jerryglasses2229 2 ай бұрын
​@@BrockMcGoffThey don't want them put into fakes.
@grahame7954
@grahame7954 2 ай бұрын
In Hong Kong it's a little different. Rolex service centre allows you to keep the replaced parts so long as you buy them for 50% of their replacement cost, and promise not to sell them. Strange way to operate but at least you can keep the original parts.
@techontroltreasures6154
@techontroltreasures6154 Ай бұрын
I did this to my dads old 1970's Tudor Oyster Prince Date Day 7017/0 the rolex case was scratched, the crystal was heavily scratched on the cyclops so i couldn't read the date well, it needed the movement serviced and some parts replaced. Fortunately the parts were available and i had the case polished up to remove the light scratches that were on it. The same principle as in the video. I wanted to wear the watch myself for the next 20-30 years like my dad and be able to put my own scrstches and wear on it and have my story told, i still have the old crystal(s) i had to get another due to me clipping the edge of a door frame and the tudor isn't sapphire so there was a small crack, so back to bucherer and paid for a new crystal. I did however keep the dial, turns out that even though bucherer is owned by Rolex had Bucherer sent it to rolex coming back to Germany they would have had to remove and replace the dial as the original which is in the watch has tritium hour markers and which means re-entry to germany the watch would have been stopped at the border and sent back and would have lost it, fortunately Bucherer has their own service department with Rolex technicians. 5-6 weeks later it returned and really happy i got the service, hopefully another few decades of time keeping with some servicing in-between will keep it running. Well done on your choices, you made them for your reasons and not what other peoples opinions would want you to do. I have also just bought my own automatic watch for the first time, an Omega HB-SIA speedmaster, having the tudor and being a Rolex case thats all the Rolex i want or need, can't be bothered with trying to get a new rolex, saving for a house so a rolex and the hassle of AD's not selling one as one is not worthy is not worth it, if i wanted one perhaps i can just pick up an old one thats used and needs a service.
@ListenToPowerViolence
@ListenToPowerViolence Ай бұрын
The hands and hour markers on your watch are made of solid white gold.
@gonzalograjeda7389
@gonzalograjeda7389 2 ай бұрын
Nice video Brock! Good call on refurbishing your watch, enjoy!! I’m guessing you sold your Explorer. Interesting. Why did you sell it?
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I let that one go. Turns out I really prefer watches with a date window.
@xcx4x
@xcx4x 2 ай бұрын
@@BrockMcGoffinteresting. I really like the date Win-Dow as well. And day even better. But love the explorer look. Maybe an explorer day date would be cool
@tizombie
@tizombie 2 ай бұрын
IMO you made the right call. Your watch looks great! I wish you many happy adventures wearing it. Thank you for the video.
@michaelfierman3256
@michaelfierman3256 2 ай бұрын
Hey i have never seen your channel before, but the algorithm thought I'd like this episode....I see you have many subscribers and won't even see this comment, but I absolutely love that you ignored the snobs and their strict dicta on what and what not to do. Your Datejust is stunning and I adore the grey dial. Nice choice there mate. Fantastic episode...Now I'll see what you usually talk about on this channel!
@Bored-G
@Bored-G 2 ай бұрын
Just an advise, it's your watch, so do whatever you want to do with it, don't listen or be affected by other's opinion. We all have our own style, if you like how it looks, then that should how it look.
@claytonmarkin7863
@claytonmarkin7863 2 ай бұрын
My Dad handed a watch down to me, and I had it refurbished/serviced, couldn’t be happier. If your dad gave you his truck and the windows didn’t roll up, you would get them repaired. This whole “Original Condition” thing assumes you plan to sell the watch, which I’m never doing with any of my current watches.
@X11CHASE
@X11CHASE Ай бұрын
Amazing production quality, first time viewer and subscribed
@JoeyJiggles
@JoeyJiggles 2 ай бұрын
I wish you spoke more about the new bracelet and how the new one felt? Is it close to the feel of a more modern version?
@PaperGrape
@PaperGrape 20 күн бұрын
Dude, it was a brand new Oyster bracelet.. industry leading comfort.
@JoeyJiggles
@JoeyJiggles 20 күн бұрын
@@PaperGrape he did not confirm if it was a new modern or a refurbished bracelet.
@PaperGrape
@PaperGrape 20 күн бұрын
@@JoeyJiggles the service center put it on, and the assumption is definitely that every part they replaced was new.
@JoeyJiggles
@JoeyJiggles 20 күн бұрын
@@PaperGrape cool so the assumption is if you buy an older model Rolex you can get it serviced and they give you a brand new modern bracelet?
@PaperGrape
@PaperGrape 20 күн бұрын
@JoeyJiggles yes. It's the whole point of the servicing. They said his old bracelet was not serviceable and could not be worked on. It was replaced with a brand new one of his choice is what I would assume. I would like to see the creator tell us for sure, but that is how servicing works. He made this video to make the point that they don't do restorations of vintage pieces. They do R&R with new parts (bracelet, dial, etc)
@geoffreycarter3981
@geoffreycarter3981 2 ай бұрын
Can you share any kind of breakdown on how much each component of the repair cost? Or did Rolex not even share that? I'd imagine about $1,000 of that was the bracelet. Also, does it goes back to Rolex in Switzerland for the repair? I'm in the market for a 16030, preferably blue roman numeral, and this was a nice video to stumble upon.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
The bracelet was about $1k, the dial around $500. Everything else was various parts and labor.
@geoffreycarter3981
@geoffreycarter3981 2 ай бұрын
@@BrockMcGoff Wow thanks for the response! This is good information. Do you think Rolex would service a watch if sent in without the original bracelet? I see many that are being sold on aftermarket leather straps, I presume because the online vendors can make more money selling them separately.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
@@geoffreycarter3981sure thing! I think they will service the watch as long as it can be verified as authentic. Not sure if they’d make you buy a bracelet or just return the watch without one.
@adairmartin
@adairmartin Ай бұрын
@@geoffreycarter3981I bought my Rolex DateJust on a leather strap. Later, I added a Jubilee bracelet.
@MBE-qs5qb
@MBE-qs5qb Ай бұрын
They will 100% give you the option of foregoing certain cosmetic repairs.
@jdwxflyer
@jdwxflyer 2 ай бұрын
That’s a beautiful watch. You chose wisely Brock.
@n0cturn2l
@n0cturn2l 24 күн бұрын
Scratches and any type of marks on a watch only matter if they were made by YOU, they keep a history. If they belong to someone else, you did right, wipe them and start making them by your own. Enjoy it, it´s an amazing watch Cheers!
@201950201950
@201950201950 Ай бұрын
How dare you think for yourself. You went ahead with preserving something that you spent your hard earned money on. How can you live with yourself?!
@camarocarl7130
@camarocarl7130 2 ай бұрын
First thing I do when I buy a used Rolex is an AD service/Polish. God knows what parts and how trashed and worn the movement parts are? I don't want someone's history/scratches /dents on my watch. I like a clean slate, a blank canvas for my own scratches and dings. An older Rolex made new again makes me very happy. I like what you have done, now the watch and its history is yours, not the previous owner.
@gyang333
@gyang333 Ай бұрын
So for the replacement bracelet, did you get the extra links or did you get it only with the links sized to your wrist?
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff Ай бұрын
They sized it down but included the extra links. It's a full bracelet.
@BadgerJeff
@BadgerJeff 2 ай бұрын
This is a very informative video. I’m glad you are happy with your choice to overhaul with Rolex. Your timepiece looks amazing!
@BonDijon
@BonDijon 2 ай бұрын
I do think the whole "can't refurbish" thing in watches is strange, as we've no problem with it with cars. With that said, losing the Taupe dial would've given me pause - it was a really nice colorway. Did they let you keep the dial the way they did with the bracelet
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
Good point! No, they keep dials (I think to avoid real dials on counterfeit watches). I do miss the taupe dial but the new one is so clean, and the working lume is nice.
@BonDijon
@BonDijon 2 ай бұрын
@@BrockMcGoff Gotcha. thanks for responding!
@bruceketta856
@bruceketta856 2 ай бұрын
Truly a lovely piece you've got there. Congrats 😍
@mr.anti-hero4398
@mr.anti-hero4398 2 ай бұрын
There are two kinds of people in this world: (1) Ones who treat a watch as a collectible. (2) Ones that treat the watch as a functional tool, status significator, and/or as a mean for stylistic expression. The problem lies within a reality in which folks from the prior group seem like they cannot zoom out by putting themselves to the referential point of the latter. Yeah, the watch might decrease its value if you switch out original parts, and if you choose to induce slight modification, which matters very little to a person who treats the watch as a watch, and not as a collectible that can be manipulated and/or sold within the near future. An analogy can be drawn by comparing an average nerd with a playful kid. The latter doesn't care if the toy will lose its value when unpacked, because One didn't buy it for the sake of increment and/or retention of the market value...One bought it to play with it. Value is relative. It's dependend upon the observer, and everything else is just squares pushing their own perspectives down the people's throat. McGoff seems like a pratical guy, so he bought the watch for practical purposes (to wear it on the wrist). If he intended to retain the watch in its box, so he can show it to the people when they come around, he'd probabbly be more incentivized to maintain its authenticity.
@1bigoptimus
@1bigoptimus 2 ай бұрын
I would've done the same thing. The watch looks great and seems like it would go well with most outfits. Great video Brock.
@mh369
@mh369 22 күн бұрын
nice video, i always wanted to know about the process of a service. wouldnt have thought its an all or nothing thing...
@Newbill17
@Newbill17 2 ай бұрын
I like your unrepentant personal decision, and your admission this is about a person’s taste. Do what you want to do, be who you are. I love it.
@docpau698
@docpau698 2 ай бұрын
You can get those clear circular stickers to seal envelopes. I use it on the caseback once the AD removes the factory stickers. Nice dj!
@martinkaplan1805
@martinkaplan1805 2 ай бұрын
Great story, beautiful watch, terrific photography, all well told. Thank you. I subbed!
@Nefville
@Nefville 2 ай бұрын
I am an enthusiast and while I would not consider this sacrilege, I would absolutely never do it myself. For me the watch needs to remain as it was purchased with the exception of routine maintenance and crystal replacement. No polishing, no swaps. That is my preference, but I would not impose it on you or anyone else, do what makes *you alone* happy and wear that in good health.
@Falkenroth1
@Falkenroth1 2 ай бұрын
Watch looks great. I say do what you want. I mean it’s a date just not some rare one of a kind watch. I would definitely wear the watch more after the rebuild than the way it was before. You put more life into the watch.
@fraserp2377
@fraserp2377 2 ай бұрын
This looks really awesome, love the dial and bracelet choice. Do you get to keep the old dial?
@ListenToPowerViolence
@ListenToPowerViolence Ай бұрын
I would love to walk through Rolex's parts library.
@scon1425
@scon1425 19 күн бұрын
Rip that taupe dial 😞
@artificial-frequencies
@artificial-frequencies 2 ай бұрын
@2:36 Rolex Boutique Budapest 🤘🏻
@mrjellow
@mrjellow 2 ай бұрын
Looks good! You made all the right choices. However, I would never wear a Rolex, they are thief magnets. I'm rocking a 9F Grand Seiko and couldn't be happier.
@BrockMcGoff
@BrockMcGoff 2 ай бұрын
I've always admired GS (from a distance, at least for now...).
@mrjellow
@mrjellow 2 ай бұрын
@@BrockMcGoff You are definitely the type for it.
@WilliamInternational
@WilliamInternational 2 ай бұрын
I have the identical 16030 with the same dial that i bought new in 1982 for $1,075. I wore it everyday day for 35 years before i bought a Batman in 2017. I hope you asked for the old parts back.
@timchan334
@timchan334 19 күн бұрын
Depends how rare the watch is, its just a datejust (not saying its a bad watch or looking down on it). Get it serviced and enjoy it for another decade/s!
@notyourdaddy8300
@notyourdaddy8300 21 күн бұрын
Your watch, your choice, but for me this is a real shame. That old dial was stunning. Way better on jubilee too. Good video though.
@timur9429
@timur9429 Ай бұрын
You know what I also own a vintage DJ 1600. And I also spend around 2800 bucks two weeks ago. But what I did was getting a Doxa Sub 300. WR, better lume and no scratches 👍. Keept the DJ the same
@thomasf.4687
@thomasf.4687 2 ай бұрын
I was sceptical first, but it look great, good you were at rolex ad, so everything is a original part... Greetings from Germany
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