The All-New EliteMini B550 Is An Incredibly Fast Next-Gen Tiny PC! Hands-On Review

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@ETAPRIME
@ETAPRIME 2 жыл бұрын
Update! A PSU mounting System is in the works for the retail version along with the new PSU Cables. I’ll do an update video once the parts are here.
@gogoman27
@gogoman27 2 жыл бұрын
Great News!! 🎊
@heriistiyanto1114
@heriistiyanto1114 2 жыл бұрын
Did you try to use the non APU Procie ex 5600x to get the 4.0 PCIE on this B550 Barebone?
@FlakiCiociGosi
@FlakiCiociGosi 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to know if the higher end CPUs are supported. The website says they only support cpus up to 65W, but is that a limitation of the motherboard or their PSU? NVM, reading further, even a 5900x would work, but would require (probably) a better cooling solution, and the external PSU.
@will3641
@will3641 2 жыл бұрын
@@boom8606 They can, but this will work so much better than TB3 or 4
@mj-7444
@mj-7444 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo
@tyguy6296
@tyguy6296 2 жыл бұрын
Including the GPU dock is just such a solid customer focus move. No obligation to include it, and the unit would be more competitively priced if they didn't, but the decision to put it in the box absolutely shows that the company KNOWS what people want and that they want to deliver nothing less. Very pleasant surprise and absolutely going on my wishlist
@dbjungle
@dbjungle 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, I'm getting ready to pick one up. I've recently moved to Europe from USA and I don't have my desktop. If I could have traveled with something like this that would have been insane. I probably would have bought this over building the 5900X desktop I have if it existed a year and a half ago.
@Demonspeeding251
@Demonspeeding251 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm actually thinking i'm going to sell my current mid-tower (ryzen 3600, rx5500 xt) for this. I want more desk space and not losing out on performance is an incredible plus.
@dbjungle
@dbjungle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Demonspeeding251 I have a Ryzen 2600 with RX570 desktop I will sell that's also in the US rn.
@Demonspeeding251
@Demonspeeding251 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbjungle very good upgrade for you also!
@brentgreeff1115
@brentgreeff1115 Жыл бұрын
I might be mistaken, but I always worried about latency over a thunderbolt dock, but this seems no different to plugging a graohics card into a standard slot on a big-boy motherboard. - I wonder how this compares in terms of Total System Latency vs an ATX with the same 3080? - PCIe 3.0 - no idea how good that is - Would love to know what a suitable graphics-card would be - if there is a bandwidth limit.
@JTM75
@JTM75 2 жыл бұрын
MiniPC + external gpu that can be easily connected to the miniPc should be the next step in making pc more modular.
@lilsmithers8681
@lilsmithers8681 2 жыл бұрын
This is nearly perfect. Nearly. If they release an updated model with ryzen 6000 for stronger performance without a discrete gpu. As well as mounting for the power supply this will literally be the ultimate mini PC bar none. Since it's a desktop Gpu I'd like to see desktop ram as well. Especially with ddr5 and that would just make the igpu incredible when not docked. Would an amazing alternative to a laptop. Very mobile perfoance but can come home dock it and have a gaming PC.
@wigglyk2796
@wigglyk2796 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, it s a bit too expensive and not worth it for the price. You can buy a box on amzn and build something like this for probably half price.
@akshatsingh9830
@akshatsingh9830 2 жыл бұрын
@@wigglyk2796 i saw its price it is 599 dollar with 5700g and the dock and wires are included in the box
@getstackedxd6231
@getstackedxd6231 2 жыл бұрын
@@wigglyk2796 smaller market means higher prices. If there was a higher demand for these then it would be priced lower. The use case of this product is niche which means slight higher prices. Just like why ITX is usually priced higher than their ATX counter parts.
@wadebrewer7212
@wadebrewer7212 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this little PC. Like ETA Prime says....pair it with a 6600xt and you have a very capable machine with a very small foot print, and portable.
@wadebrewer7212
@wadebrewer7212 2 жыл бұрын
@@nasman7492 ya know....of you don't like his content....you don't HAVE TO watch it....just a thought.
@AelotasOfCorn
@AelotasOfCorn 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw this on Minisforum's website, I wondered if you'd have an opportunity to review it. Wonder no more! Thanks for covering it and I look forward to your tear down.
@_bigbenbenny
@_bigbenbenny 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you picked one of these up! This definitely gives me inspiration as an alternative build option for a project build with my kids. Thank you
@santiagoferrari1973
@santiagoferrari1973 2 жыл бұрын
make them an itx pc, dont waste your time in this crap.
@waffleten9750
@waffleten9750 2 жыл бұрын
@@santiagoferrari1973 Key word KIDS. PCs like this are small and im my experience kinda durable. Easy to set up and easy to move incase anything happens. That or like a laptop......
@sagbag856
@sagbag856 2 жыл бұрын
wow this is actually awesome. you can keep upgrading it. making it an intriguing entry mini pc. considering the price its a very solid offering with its options and upgradeability. huge potential for the market.
@KingKrouch
@KingKrouch 2 жыл бұрын
Really nifty, even if I wish they'd close the other side with a mesh vent, so it has a more consistent look. That slot-in look gives me some massive Sega CD vibes.
@ben5676755
@ben5676755 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I built an ITX in search for something like this. Having the CPU horsepower, that'll fit into a backpack for work, and then be able to easily doc it at home has been a dream of mine. At the moment the ITX is a large briefcase. Maybe we'll see some other boxes/cases in the near future.
@CoPoint
@CoPoint 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a really nice system 👍! Something that always interested me: a comparison of "GPU in normal slot" vs. "same GPU as eGPU over M.2" - how much power do you _really_ leave on the table with it? This system should be the first one where this is doable, as you can do it on THE SAME machine, instead of 'something similar' (more or less)...
@TavaresD
@TavaresD 2 жыл бұрын
This just is amazing! the best approach to a dock that I have ever seen
@santiagoferrari1973
@santiagoferrari1973 2 жыл бұрын
do you think anyone will use this? I would play around with it a day or two, but then never use it. Get a gaming laptop or an itx pc and youll be a lot better than with this crap.
@jt3000o
@jt3000o 2 жыл бұрын
@@santiagoferrari1973 this isn't a laptop replacement this is a desktop that's small
@1986Hikaru
@1986Hikaru 2 жыл бұрын
@@jt3000o But i can do that using a K39v3 case...
@jt3000o
@jt3000o 2 жыл бұрын
@@1986Hikaru yeah sure what's your point except this accepts modern graphics cards that don't have small form factor sizes
@rafaelgil6895
@rafaelgil6895 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing concept, but why on earth didn't they just added power through the dock instead of that weird 10pin connector? Would have been much cleaner. Still, the idea of docking it to a real GPU using a real 16x PCI-e is awesome.
@psedog
@psedog 2 жыл бұрын
This comment needs more likes. It was the first thing that came to mind for me as well.
@maverickvgc4220
@maverickvgc4220 2 жыл бұрын
The 10 pin is needed because the PCIe slot delivers only 12v while the 24pin also has 5V and the pin that tells the PSU that the system is on.
@Noname_game672
@Noname_game672 2 жыл бұрын
over the Pcie Slot you are limited to 75 Watts of Power. its an bottleneck for the CPU
@psedog
@psedog 2 жыл бұрын
@@maverickvgc4220 We know why it's needed, but it could have been integrated into the dock. The more cables you have to plug into the docking device the more cumbersome and seldom used it'll end up being.
@rafaelgil6895
@rafaelgil6895 2 жыл бұрын
@@maverickvgc4220 It is needed, I know, but why not add just another connector on the side of the pci-e slot instead of a visible cable?
@javiej
@javiej 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. I really like this asymetric build because it avoids the problem that most other ssfpc cases have in that size range: They typically put the motherboard and the PSU on the back of the GPU in order to achieve a single symmetrical package as compact as possible. But that means having the back fan of the GPU blowing hot air against the PSU in a very tight space, which is bad for both the PSU and the GPU. This design solves the problem and it is still equally portable (just transport your gear in several small packages rather than a single big one, which at the end of the day are also easier to fit in your backpack or suitcase rather than squeezing a bigger single box. For maximum portability I would suggest to use it with a smaller GPU, a pico psu and external 20V power brick, such as the SlimQ 240W
@gazc00p
@gazc00p 2 жыл бұрын
I was on the fence about ordering on of these, I nearly pressed the buy button about 6 times. But your review has convinced me and I'll have one shortly, I hope. As always, love the vids.
@jamesharwood4752
@jamesharwood4752 2 жыл бұрын
you should always use included power supply cable and never third party! as different power supply have different pin out and blow the power supply or the computer itself
@gldev8191
@gldev8191 2 жыл бұрын
hopefully this gets pinned!
@SyRose901
@SyRose901 2 жыл бұрын
@Dakshesh Gauba The compatibility of a PSU cable is actually really finicky most of the time, and I think there is a site which has a detailed compatibility charts showing which fits and which do not.
@sm-zt4ut
@sm-zt4ut 2 жыл бұрын
@Dakshesh Gauba The pinout on the device side is standardized, however the pinout on the PSU side is not standardized.
@acdbrn2000
@acdbrn2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@SyRose901 Cablemod’s website has a compatibility list. Probably what you were thinking of.
@SyRose901
@SyRose901 2 жыл бұрын
@@acdbrn2000 Nice, yeah, that is it.
@christianfelgentreter7507
@christianfelgentreter7507 2 жыл бұрын
Love your coverage of all those amd mini pc's! I would appreciate if you mention the noise levels since this can be a big purchasing factor. Cheers mate
@spotopolis
@spotopolis 2 жыл бұрын
A few years ago, I found a mini itx case that was a double din car dash form factor and had a built in 7in touch screen. I put a i7 6700k in it with 32gb of ram and a 500gb m.2 nvme and was going to have it be an all in one machine for my car. Navigation, weather, voice search using Cortana, and gaming. I had a sweet interface setup with RainMeeter and ended up buying a pico-like psu that was a 250 watt smart DC to DC PSU so I could hook it straight to the cars 12v line. After I was about ready to install, I realized this thing was stronger than my current desktop and all I needed was to add a GPU so I scrapped the car PC and just put all the parts into my desktop case. I still have the mini itx double din case and screen along with the PSU for it and would love to set something like that up, but I suffer from the issue of there is always better hardware and I can never decide on something.
@sichambers9011
@sichambers9011 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to come with something similar to this for my RV. The power supply is always the issue - didn't really see the sense in inverting to 240ac to drop back to low power DC again. I don't know that much about builds or individual components, was wondering where is the best place to look for a PSU that can run something like this but of 12v DC - any suggestions? Was also wondering about the feasibility of waiting for the 6000 series APUs and running it with USB PD.
@kennethchong6543
@kennethchong6543 2 жыл бұрын
WOW the this gpu dock one of the most practical usage and also big brain move
@jasonkamczyc666
@jasonkamczyc666 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly interested in emulation up to PS2 era and how the PICO power supply works. It looks like you just unplugged 1 easy access cable to dock properly and that's what I was hoping for in terms of ease in and out. it would be a pain to have to deal with that CPU connector every time behind the graphics card.
@snowmcsnow4732
@snowmcsnow4732 2 жыл бұрын
Might upgrade to this, waiting for the updated video when the parts arrive!
@benjaminjohnson6936
@benjaminjohnson6936 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually a really cool little machine, maybe for someone who wants to try out PC gaming but is intimidated by a complete PC build. Very interested to see this with the PSU mount, even though I don't really have a use for it.
@santiagoferrari1973
@santiagoferrari1973 2 жыл бұрын
this gimmicks are for no one to use. Maybe buy but not use it then. At most, you keep the psu and gpu and dock at home and only carry the small pc, but then you will need a monitor and stuff. So, why dont just buy a laptop? or a desktop itx?
@benjaminjohnson6936
@benjaminjohnson6936 2 жыл бұрын
@@santiagoferrari1973 No one would carry this around. But, it could be a great gaming PC for the living room, or just someone who doesn't want it to take up a lot of space. It's a LOT smaller than an ITX PC. And you get a lot more power for your money with this and an external GPU than you would with a gaming laptop. These are pretty niche use cases, but they're there. I'll stick with my ATX rig, though.
@waffleten9750
@waffleten9750 2 жыл бұрын
@@santiagoferrari1973 thats on you this is a amazing emulation machine I have a portable monitor in my backpack all the time all I really need is a port for the PC and that's it. Which for school or the workplace is easy to find. Then again a laptop is infinitely better so neh.
@neogriff
@neogriff 2 жыл бұрын
Imma save up for this one. And might interested in knowing more about attaching it to a power supply. Preferably ones with less than 300w but can still feed power to the pc and maybe a 3060
@kajurn791
@kajurn791 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the title, this is super cool. Pricing seems very fair given you get a case + mobo + dock + PSU, 700 for 5700g with 16GB and a NVME for boot. Sure once you add a good GPU and a suitable ATX PSU it's going right past 1-1,5k, but that's normal? It would be nice to have some place on the dock to fit the PSU in future revisions, and PCIE 4.0 too of course.
@lafafaf9048
@lafafaf9048 2 жыл бұрын
The 5700g supports only pcie gen 3.0
@kajurn791
@kajurn791 2 жыл бұрын
@@lafafaf9048 I know, hence why i mentioned getting 4.0 support in the future...
@ngsam3362
@ngsam3362 2 жыл бұрын
@@lafafaf9048 only u discover it👍. Chipset b550 supports pcie gen 4.0 but gpu nowaday running@ 3.0. Timespy is under score 15% discount. ETA shall provide more details next round.
@linchester8464
@linchester8464 2 жыл бұрын
@@kajurn791 the barebones dont have the APU so you can technically slot in a AM4 socket CPU up to 65W TDP. The 5600X has PCI-E 4.0.
@greenprotag
@greenprotag 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize this system has a FULL PCIEx16 slot. That's awesome.
@dzibanart8521
@dzibanart8521 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the rdna2 versions of these pcs
@TheBadFred
@TheBadFred 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I wonder why nobody else had the idea of a dock. Like the Asus Flow series with the external GPU and extra IO.
@ivovass195
@ivovass195 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool mini PC that gives you many options to expand the graphics power right out of the box without fiddling with m.2 to pciexpress docs, very very nice. Looking forward to the teardown and test with pico power supply. Awesome
@andromydous
@andromydous 2 жыл бұрын
At the beginning, I was like "What's exciting about another mini PC?". When you started talking about and showing that dock, I understood. With everything included, that is the coolest one I've ever seen.
@_Turbocat777
@_Turbocat777 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as Taki posted his video I knew you'd bring up pico psu as an option/viability and possibly get the psu to look better when docked. Really interested in the psu mounting system that they are working on.
@RiccardoPearlman
@RiccardoPearlman 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is just like my project from last year! I am running a Strix X-570 I with a 5700G and 32GB of ram in a 3D printed small case. I made the top with a magentic lid, where you can feed a riser cable out the side. Then there's a GPU enclosure with a dedicated power supply that you can slot it into. I am so glad Minisforum is now taking this idea to mass production. Pairing this setup with a portable monitor is a great way to have a mobile work rig that you can bring home and turn into a full PC. If they produce this for the next gen APU's I will definitely buy this instead of building another.
@Flash777LOfficial
@Flash777LOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
OMG!! I think this is the best mini pc for now.
@iBangAPES
@iBangAPES 2 жыл бұрын
for a mini pc with an added Dedicated GPU solution, this is nearly perfect. After seeing one of my friends with a mini pc handheld + GPU enclosure that can cleanly connect over a thunderbolt cable, i got envious and want one for myself. As much as how elegant that dock solution is, i still think a mini pc handheld is still a better way, even with the extra premium cost great video. looking forward for that followup!
@aguyandhiscomputer
@aguyandhiscomputer 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos as always. Thinking out loud... starting to feel there's too many options out there. Choice is good but the number of videos you make prove it. How does someone even pick 1 of 100 mini computers? It's exhausting.
@hex7332
@hex7332 2 жыл бұрын
If you already don't have a mini pc, pick up the one in the video. There aren't a lot mini PCs that has desktop grade CPUs. To answer your question, it's about the use case really. I use my elite mini mostly for baremetal virtualization. It's not the best at it, but it just works.
@aguyandhiscomputer
@aguyandhiscomputer 2 жыл бұрын
@@hex7332 true, the desktop CPU is different.
@ScantGore
@ScantGore 2 жыл бұрын
Already pre-ordered this. Looking forward to paring it with my RTX 3070.
@retroman--
@retroman-- 2 жыл бұрын
why wouldn't you get a pc that can fit the 3070? this is such an ugly compromise
@davoncci
@davoncci 2 жыл бұрын
@@retroman-- Because, you can undock it and take it to the office and do office work. You cannot carry your gaming PC on the go.
@ScantGore
@ScantGore 2 жыл бұрын
@@retroman--I already have a tower PC. I personally dig the look and convenience of having something a lot smaller.
@o7juan
@o7juan 2 жыл бұрын
@@retroman-- “ugly compromise “ I didn’t know hardware could be either ugly or attractive lol
@konishiwoi
@konishiwoi 2 жыл бұрын
AYYYY I was eyeing it for a while cuz I'm always on Minisforum's website and this one was so cool I knew you'd get and review it
@Yore0
@Yore0 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Taki Udon uploaded a video of this little system yesterday. I figured it was only a matter of time until you uploaded your video on it too.
@Zenas521
@Zenas521 2 жыл бұрын
This concept, (of mini computer with a full sized graphics card dock) being available right-out-of-the-box, is awesome.
@TrTai
@TrTai 2 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled on this the otherday while looking into something to use for a LAN party box. Something like this is killer for a certain usecase, having a neater Power supply situation will help, and one thing that'd be cool is if there was like a 'carriable' version of the dock, something that's just a slight enclosure for transporting everything together. realistically it's great as is, able to move the primary unit if you need to and able to bring it back home, plop it in and game away is awesome.
@PIXELPORTABLE
@PIXELPORTABLE 2 жыл бұрын
Very neat device!! This would have been great back in the LAN party days instead of lugging a massive rig around.
@TomatePasFraiche
@TomatePasFraiche 2 жыл бұрын
I love this, it's not a low bandwidth thunderbolt but a full on PCIe 3.0. Now MinisForum really needs to make a handlheld!
@BrianThomas
@BrianThomas 2 жыл бұрын
I'm blown away. This little thing can game at 4K 60 to 90 fps (with certain titles). I love it. Why didn't I think of that? Show more of this build. I'dove to see a PCIE Gen 4.0 unit. Or perhaps one with Intel and a few thunder ⚡ ports. Or even an AMD unit with USB gen 4.0
@jayrowe6473
@jayrowe6473 2 жыл бұрын
"This is going to be my next computer... but if I wait a couple weeks..."
@trunksviper6583
@trunksviper6583 2 жыл бұрын
this is looking good. i will keep an eye out for it, looking forward to the upcoming video of this computer
@jcorrea8597
@jcorrea8597 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for. Something I could take with me and carry around and use with my NexDock. Then use at home and be doing power gaming.
@stillblazinkush
@stillblazinkush 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering how loud that open 3080ti is. A nice touch for unit reviews of this kind could be the amount of noise generated before and after. Jarrod Tech Tips is my favorite reviewer on laptops and showcases noise comparisons in that fashion.
@joeyrulzsohard
@joeyrulzsohard Жыл бұрын
I would love to see emulation performance as I am super interested in using these for both a home emulation console and putting in an arcade cabinet. Something that can handle just about anything I throw at it without the need for a full tower.
@colonelccccc
@colonelccccc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review thanks ETA. My take on this is that Intel approach is better, having the GPU on the desk with the PSU and cables everywhere is not for me...not to mention if you sneeze hard or have any kind of liquids (Water/Coffee...etc) around could ruin it all in an instant + the other possible issues (cat/kids...).
@ytcbk
@ytcbk 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!! Thank you for making these videos Sir! 😃👍
@patricklepoutre
@patricklepoutre 2 жыл бұрын
AT LAST !! someone did it ! a modular PC ! great stuff !
@nubiandavis2610
@nubiandavis2610 Жыл бұрын
This system is pretty damn amazing!! I am going to order one today I think. I use it mainly for business but I definitely love the fact that I can throw my old 970 into it and get some real frame rates!! Cannot wait to get it. I do not have a good idea of where to get all of the emulation software and would love for you to do a video on how to locate that. Anyway keep up the great work!
@VK-qt2fu
@VK-qt2fu 2 жыл бұрын
Well, since it's barebones, you can also put a Ryzen 9 in, the graphics card is then installed externally anyway. really good concept
@tododigitalvzla
@tododigitalvzla 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.. I am also a fan of mini PCs. Had bought some time ago minisforum running ubuntu. Time to upgrade to such a model. Also my greeting from tropical Venezuela.
@TheRealAlpha2
@TheRealAlpha2 2 жыл бұрын
A cool little idea, I like the modular concept... but man, having all those open spinning GPU fans and wires everywhere kinda spooks me.
@augustocarrera5307
@augustocarrera5307 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Would you mind testing it with a low power GPU, such as the RX 6400? I couldn't find any specs on the power output of the dock itself... I wonder how far can you take the performance with the system as is ROTB. Awesome review as always!
@patisking123
@patisking123 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please! I was wondering the same thing.
@TheUrbanRebel
@TheUrbanRebel 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for someone to make a mini PC and GPU dock like this. I mean how hard can it be? hehe. This is good enough but I hope the version 2.0 can include a PSU into the dock and enclose the whole thing so that it is more tidy.
@dbjungle
@dbjungle 2 жыл бұрын
When the AM5 version comes out in the future it's gonna SLAP! I've always loved smaller computers, but after moving to EU from USA I realized that small (ITX) usually isn't small enough. I would have loved something like this, but I'd already built out a 5900X desktop. Still going to get one of these though.
@stargazertales5792
@stargazertales5792 2 жыл бұрын
If only the OEM GPU could have an adapter for most Mini PCs. I think a good compromise would be if the mini PCs worked with a GPU adapter slot as well as a selection of GPUs like the small form factor desktops on eBay with customization options
@wengnguyn6677
@wengnguyn6677 2 жыл бұрын
That setup is clean af homie
@Theveshinpillay
@Theveshinpillay 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more tests with this setup as it is the only competition for Laptops👍
@yugen042
@yugen042 2 жыл бұрын
Not complaining at all, but you are really cranking out videos at consistent quality. Take care of your work-life-balance :)
@thndrpnts
@thndrpnts 2 жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned this as a HTPC, and I'd love to see a mini PC like this with either a built-in or bolted-on blu-ray drive.
@CESAR_H_ARIAS
@CESAR_H_ARIAS 2 жыл бұрын
Looks almost as good and promising as the intel nuc system. I have high hopes for a zen4 apu with ddr5&pcie4
@sneakyrabid8828
@sneakyrabid8828 2 жыл бұрын
I think I've found the perfect SFF solution for my spare 5700G / RX 6600 XT which currently are laying around...
@sicko990
@sicko990 2 жыл бұрын
😁😂😭
@johnval31
@johnval31 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that they include cables for the PSU when many of them are wired up differently on the PSU side from manufacturer to manufacturer. Really hope no one inadvertently blows up their PSU cause of that!
@andresvaldevit3692
@andresvaldevit3692 2 жыл бұрын
The dream is alive! Damn it, why did it take so long to come up with a solution like this??? Screw thunderbolt eGPUs, and screw Intel NUC Canyon PCs, this is how it's done! I got to ask one thing, I suppose that's a normal PCIe x16 slot right? Can you plug in other PCI cards other than a GPU?
@kellysalyer1972
@kellysalyer1972 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance that they would add support for the Ryzen 9 Desktop processors? The reason I ask is that I live/work overseas, and while back in the USA on R&R I purchased a new laptop from ASUS with a AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX and 32Gb of ram and the RTX 3070 GPU. This laptop is in BEAST MODE! when compared to my desktop that I built in 2014 and have been upgrading the graphics card and Ram from time to time up to a GTX 1060 and 32Gb of Ram. The most pertinent reason I ask is that for everyday tasks the Ryzen 9 desktop CPU is WAAYY! more than adequate for daily work tasks. BUT when I need to do 4K 3D CAD renderings for my work, I Absolutely NEED a Dedicated Graphics Card for the 4K Renderings for my clients especially when they want to view the work via 4K VR Goggles. I know these questions may be out of spec for the hardware of the reviewed PC. Just looking for my best BANG for the BUCK! solution!!
@maverickvgc4220
@maverickvgc4220 2 жыл бұрын
Desktop R9s don't have an iGPU so you couldn't use it on its own. However teh 5900HX is still a laptop part and the 5700G is better (the 5700g has 500MHz higher base clock and 100MHz graphics clock, everything else except consumption is the same)
@Neopulse00
@Neopulse00 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'd like to see you make a video testing out APU builds (or even Raspberry Pi 4 boards) being tested as dedicated streaming PCs. In the era of overpriced low-tier NVIDIA cards, to see if they perform well and if Intel iGPU has an advantage over AMD iGPU for streaming. While you stream, how much bitrate can it handle until it starts lagging or hiccuping and which can handle streaming while using an overlay or green screen.
@terrencepowersofficial
@terrencepowersofficial 2 жыл бұрын
I guess when this setup comes out to the masses we should have an option for black psu cables for a cleaner look. Can't wait to see the bracket for the PSU and how that's going to look.
@IRWPD
@IRWPD 2 жыл бұрын
That is super cool it comes with a dock for a GPU.
@johnsherby9130
@johnsherby9130 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how small you could make a no compromise pc here. Sfx or even a flex PSU with this thing and a low profile graphics card. Sheeeeeee
@UnclePrakrik
@UnclePrakrik 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. I think this will be my choice over the Mac Mini M1 for editing Video. Their site cannot shift here in Qatar. You have any Idea when will it be available on Amazon?
@rocktigerdesign
@rocktigerdesign 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video and such an awesome little machine. I’m thinking to swap my HP Pavilion tower that has the same 5700G in to this little bad boy, mainly using it for graphic design and light video editing without an external graphics… do you think it’s a good choice for that purpose? Would appreciate an opinion. :)
@amineBoucherit
@amineBoucherit 2 жыл бұрын
its weird that there's no ITX cases that does something like this! just include a Pcie riser and a way to put the Gpu outside
@Saved_Sinner0085
@Saved_Sinner0085 2 жыл бұрын
In the future I imagine there will be mini PC's like this but thinner that can also dock into a laptop body for on the go. There will be a GPU dock for home and the laptop dock for travel.
@jaxxarmstrong
@jaxxarmstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I'm more interested in the Linux compatibility (drivers). I, and I'm sure quite a few others, would be very thankful if you took a look at that. No one I know uses Windows for more than gaming. Thank you in advance.
@Sup_D
@Sup_D 2 жыл бұрын
Considering its a PCIe 3.0 connection, i believe using anything from the RTX 3000 & Radeon 6000 series would be waste. Hope Minisforum update the Dock to support PCIe 4.0 atleast (especially considering that we are slowly transitioning towards PCIe 5.0 now)
@maverickvgc4220
@maverickvgc4220 2 жыл бұрын
Even the 6900XT and the 3090 have little to no loss with PCIe 3.0, gen 3 is not a limitation
@RelentlessOhiox
@RelentlessOhiox 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing about the 6 series and the performance the iGPU's put out now.. I'd just wait.
@christiancage6626
@christiancage6626 2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome device for sure...as always great video👌🏻
@ericliume
@ericliume 2 жыл бұрын
If you will definitely add an external GPU, buy this model. You don't need to wait for the 6000 series APU, since the iGPU won't beat the external GPU anyway. If an external GPU is not a definitely yes, you might consider to wait for the future upgrade to 6000 series APU.
@CarterHurd
@CarterHurd Жыл бұрын
hi, quick question: I’m trying to run this with an eGPU off of 2 DC power bricks. Is it possible to not plug in the 10 pin and 4 pin, and then run the PC off of its normal brick, and the GPU off of a separate power supply?
@tdata545
@tdata545 2 жыл бұрын
Must say, this is quite the novel and better approach than the Intel NUC offering. While it's nice that the new whatever-canyon they have can support 3080s all day long in a standalone package, and does make it slightly more elegant of a solution. I like that you can remove the graphics card, have a portable Emulation beast, plug it in and have a gaming beast. What an inventive solution than relying on Thunderbolt. Edit: Only complaint, those USB 3 ports should be 20Gbs offerings.
@samariter8837
@samariter8837 2 жыл бұрын
it would be nice if you show a smilar setup with a smaller ryzen gpu and linux
@bungkusi2432
@bungkusi2432 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Linux love team red
@joeglennaz
@joeglennaz Жыл бұрын
! For some reason I like these mini PCs as well. My daily driver is a MacBook Pro I have an a stand closed up and I have a curved 27 inch monitor. I work from home and do zoom calls and basic stuff. I’m not in the game in at all but lately I’ve been really into these gaming computers just because the way they look. Right now I have a 12 year old all in one PC on my credenza that barely works and I’d like to replace it and have a back up for my MacBook Pro. The only gaming I can envision is Microsoft flight simulator 2020 because I’m a pilot. I’m a private pilot not a commercial pilot. I don’t know if you would have any suggestions on the most powerful mini PC for flight Sim? Maybe something like this with an external GPU. And honestly I think it looks cool with the external GPU sitting out there. Thanks for the video
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 2 жыл бұрын
Cherry on top would be support for full sized desktop RAM that can run up to 4933MT/s At about 4600MT/s the lack of cache compared to a 5700x is almost entirely gone, and at 4933 it can sometimes be faster than 57/5800x Note that over 4600 i cannot get the integrated GPU to work properly if the MCLK/FCLK/UCLK are all in 1:1:1 with gear1, to get the GPU to work at 4933/5000 i need to run the MCLK:FCLK:UCLK at 2:1:1. The CPU itself will run fine at 1:1:1, but i have to disabled the iGPU in the BIOS
@DeepThinker193
@DeepThinker193 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, just have the eGPU dock house a sfx PSU like the PICO in it's base or something so as not to create clutter and this would be perfect. I see this as the future.
@mars-chan717
@mars-chan717 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing job from minisforum. This one is best alternative to gaming pc
@jarrodhockley
@jarrodhockley 2 жыл бұрын
This is were the whole PC industry needs to move towards. multi mode device ecosystems. but the phone needs to be part of it. almost like a CPU + CPU dock with GPU treat the phone as the e-core, have the P-core in the Dock and GPU as a pcie interface....
@Matteo77777
@Matteo77777 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice setup! Great content as always ETA. But other than being cool, what would the benefit of this be over a comparable laptop? Even as great as it is, I just don't think I could justify it for myself.
@hankhill6395
@hankhill6395 2 жыл бұрын
Did you get a new mic? If so what are u using its sound really clear and nice.
@dalenihiser7766
@dalenihiser7766 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious. I have a recording booth in my home where I do voice-over work on Fiverr. Ideally I should keep my desktop PC outside the booth but that is simply not possible with my setup. So I have some PC fan noise to contend with now and then. How quiet are these mini pcs? Recommendations for a Windows based mini pc with AMD inside? A mini pc might also be great alternative to a laptop for recording while on-the-road. An Ideal mini pc for VO work should have at least 32gig of ram, a large ssd hard drive, and extremely low noise.
@tridibmondal9148
@tridibmondal9148 2 жыл бұрын
THIS the future of small form factor Gaming!
@bungusgaming2538
@bungusgaming2538 2 жыл бұрын
im excited for a potential minisforum b650 in the future when ryzen 7000 apus start coming out
@maliceflare
@maliceflare 2 жыл бұрын
i hope in the future, it isn't just a dock, but SFF case, and the mini-PC is the NUC that can be attached/detached at will...
@tremendoza
@tremendoza 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the 5700G, unless expressly stated in the mini pc board spec, is the PCIE version limiting component as it supports 3.0 max.
@acejon2162
@acejon2162 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the 5700 CPU only supports upto version 3.0. Should not be a problem though as the 3080 will not be bottlenecked by 3.0.
@xutt2424
@xutt2424 2 жыл бұрын
Let me ask u some thing Mr. ETA, I like your home screen the car moving and for tab s 8 ultra , where I can download?
@samstewart2729
@samstewart2729 2 жыл бұрын
I am having a hard time to decide something to do retro gaming but this was your best video yet on this. wondering just on the unit how it handles the usual benhcmarks you put up pretty please (ps thank you as over the last few weeks your vids are so informative
@acejon2162
@acejon2162 2 жыл бұрын
Err... he benchmarked both standalone scores and with dedicated GPU in the video.
@hellookittties
@hellookittties 2 жыл бұрын
@@acejon2162 i watched it twice and no idea how i missed this as i thought it was the external card, thank you
@soucouyant
@soucouyant 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks a million for your hard work. I think this is a bit late, because the Deskmeet x300 has space for a small but full hight GPU. Even though its not out yet, I think its looks a little more elegant. thanks again. blessings
@aliessa8515
@aliessa8515 2 жыл бұрын
Out of the many many mini PC you have tested ETA PRIME. Curious if you could point me in the right direction of one that could work as a low powered plex, Sonarr media center. Something running 24/7. Not a big fan of the raspberry pie I got.
@JeffMcJunkin
@JeffMcJunkin 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried non-APU processors as well when combined with a discrete GPU? A 5800X3D (even at 65w) would be super compelling for this build; it certainly wouldn't bottleneck most any GPU at that point.
@thatguycalledaustin4206
@thatguycalledaustin4206 2 жыл бұрын
Do you get to keep each pc you review or do you need to return them to the manufacturer after each review?
@HuntedFalconer
@HuntedFalconer 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm new to pretty much everything that happens inside the computer, just wanted to know how this would do for digital art, I think the biggest thing for me would be memory/storage and how to upgrade that if needed. Thanks
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