TINY Intel PC Comes With RTX Muscle

[@Flytrap]

I always find myself holding my breath, hoping he doesn't irrevocably break something during the teardown.

[@joeyyung911]

Is he related to Linus?

[@Mu7eD-Stream]

You know he gets a lot of this stuff for free and as such probably doesn't overly care if he breaks it.

[@geetarguy777]

I have faith 😂 if I can do it, Dawid certainly can

[@MurphysTactical]

As long as there are no ribbon cables, David is probably fine....maybe....

[@I_Evo]

I suspect the video is usually out of order with the test portion filmed prior to the teardown just in case.

[@ConRHD]

Whenever Linode sponsors someone who isn't Dawid I get confused.

[@LumaControl]

It has to be either Dawid or Craft Computing

[@tbray]

I typically skip all sponsor-based ads because they're dull - but not Dawid's - they're their own event.

[@TheSykoRC]

Yeah. When other KZbinrs say just linode… it sounds so weak and underwhelming.

[@insurgencybuffoonery8065]

I think there’s an alternate universe where Dawid is the Linode CEO

[@kirbstomp9380]

linooode

[@syrconcrete6399]

The NUCs have been pretty cool, especially the higher end ones

[@harryshuman9637]

Yeah but price wise the higher ones don't justify their price.

[@bootchoo96]

The are very good, but the price is what's makes them not popular

[@MandoMTL]

They're shit value.

[@mikeymaiku]

@@bootchoo96 yes, being able to build a 3080 system with a i7/ryzen7 for the same cost kinda killed it for many lol

[@vailpcs4040]

I grabbed a 4th gen one a few years back and mounted it on a cheap LCD panel in my garage to run Ubuntu and Spotify while out there working on projects / whatever and the thing has been a champ.

[@hepi_34]

The fps dropped after turning DLSS on 💀

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Dlss and fsr doesn't help cpu bottlenecks, if anything it adds more burden to the cpu, hence worse fps

[@DeusX23]

He was in a different area in the game tho so maybe that's why

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

@@DeusX23 That does play a role, but yeah, not even DLSS can over come a weak CPU.

[@wxmt95]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff i guess some people cant read/understand afterburner

[@mauronunez2541]

This is the way I like to start a Saturday...watching a new video of Dawid! Thanks man

[@brianrussell7369]

"This is the way."

[@intraspec]

Got to love the creative and painstaking ways mini PCs are constructed. Always a fun to deconstruct. Even better when a tutorial effortless does it while nothing comes apart for you.

[@raven4k998]

do you have some RTX inside you?

[@Alex96194]

Dawid, you could try using throttlestop to bump up the CPU performance by a bit, its got many useful settings in there such as voltage control, TDP control and even freq control if your CPU allows it

[@dilutedoxygen]

Intel mobile cpus don't allow any of that, only k skew desktop cpus do when it comes to intel

[@Alex96194]

@@dilutedoxygenit depends on the CPU. I have a 1235U laptop which allows some control.

[@TibiAltF4]

@@dilutedoxygen Throttlestop is different to general overlocking tbh, Throttlestop allowed me to undervolt my i7-8750H and force consistent 3.4GHz clocks when running benchmarks and such, compared to the stock 2 cores at 4.2 or whatever 2 cores at 4.0 or whatever and another 2 cores at 3.8 or whatever. Yes you can't "overclock" these laptop chips but I know that undervolting can help with reducing temperatures, changing turbo freuqency times like you can in XTU and performing undervolts to get a stable clock speed and better performance. I don't have that i7-8750H anymore as the GPU fried to death so haven't used it for a couple of months. Maybe I'm wrong and hey that's ok. Btw you are correct that overclocking is usually only limited to desktop K CPU's like my i7-9700K but I think the original commentor was trying to get across a different point?

[@DrMuFFinMan]

One thing I've learned about watching an online teardown, is the first time something is taken apart is always the hardest. Most teardown tutorials are being done on a product that has already been broken down at least once before.

[@KNLLMH]

just ordered parts for a new pc and just watching this makes me think about it and with the parts being better it makes me feel so giddy like a child at christmas, exited for the build and the great performance

[@JaySee5]

You can try to overclock with ThrottleStop, but I doubt it because my old i7 1065G7 would only allow underclocking and undervolting. However it did allow unlocking the turbo boost timers.

[@eduardopatricio]

The TDP can be upped using the "power" tab in the Bios. Crazy he missed that.

[@josiahmoorhouse8036]

This is the only channel whose ad spots are so entertaining that I don't skip them.

[@JayFochs1337]

Honestly that little guy held up much better than I thought it would 😂

[@djnjoy]

Why not? It is essentially a mid-tier gaming laptop from 2 years ago without the screen and keyboard. Otherwise, with this thing being from Intel, I find it ironic it comes with Nvidia and not some variant of the Arc

[@Fay7666]

@@djnjoy This is the last generation one (which is the most boring of the dGPU ones), the current one is the ARC model. The interesting one is the first one, which had _AMD Vega graphics built into/alongside the CPU._

[@bleepbloop4221]

That’s what she said

[@eduardopatricio]

And it can perform much better if the TDP is increased ("Power" tab in the bios). He completely missed that.

[@Some-person-dot-dot-dot]

@@djnjoy This machine was assembled before ARC even existed. So, it's 100 percent plausible that it doesn't have something that didn't exist at the time.

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Maybe pushing to 1440p would help the cpu bottleneck

[@dylanallen7720]

i was wondering why he didnt test that lol

[@catch22frubert]

It would absolutely help the CPU bottleneck, but only if the 2060 could actually play games at 1440p over 60fps. I guess DLSS could help balance things out, but I think I'd just rather look for a version of the Nuc with a 12th gen and a 3060ti inside or something.

[@chrisgraal7319]

I'm still using a 2060 and to be honest, it's a pretty good card. It seems to play everything reasonably well.

[@ivandksd]

Yhea, I'm pretty sure this one had a mobile rtx 2060.

[@sterkriger2572]

I’m using a 1070 and still runs everything

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

Awesomesauce video, Dawid! Those NUCs sure are power hungry. Idea for ya, see how long you can drain a cheap UPS battery on the MSI PC you got.

[@ste6000]

i feel the size of the psu might be due to keeping it cooler for long term usage where a laptop charger wouldn't be used for long term sessions all the time. should take them apart and see the inside of the PSUs and how they are built.

[@darrenskjoelsvold]

When this NUC came out it was seriously interesting and at the time even a bit compelling. Frankly with all the shortages at the time being able to buy something was great. These kinds of computers are underappreciated. Small form factor computers can make great office computers and one that's capable of doing more than basic word processing is a luxury. Yeah the processor just having 4 cores is a bit odd but it's enough as well.

[@MarkOffski]

It looks exactly the same as my NUC Hades Canyon, (which incidentally has a strange Intel/AMD collaboration GPU), which was light years ahead of any SFF gpu at the time, and still is very good and will play AAA games. The only real difference i can see is the 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports i have in the Hades Canyon have been replaced with T4, the bios and power brick even looks the same. The internals look different, and mine is far more easy to access. Mine came as a barebones unit which i put 32gb of ram and a 1tb nvme, the processor is an i7-8075g and the GPU is a Radeon RX Vega M GL, its still great to use and i intend to keep it.

[@kurtisrinker1202]

You're right, that's really the only difference between the phantom canyon and the hades canyon. Having owned both, however, I can confirm the phantom canyon is significantly more quiet at full load then the hades canyon model.

[@NC7491]

@@kurtisrinker1202 Thank you both for your comments. I didn't know that the phantom canyon looks exactly the same as the hades canyon. It's good to know that the phantom canyon is quieter as weighs heavily on my calculus when buying those things. Do you guys think that this can be easily transported? I am looking for a lightweight yet powerful pc to use when going on longer trips and those nucs seem to fit the bill.

[@TheJudge2017]

Please tell me you are joking about what ESPN is

[@Gatorade69]

I know what ESPN is... Woke ! Also he's from Canada (Originally South Africa I think ?) ESPN is geo restricted outside the US. "ESPN is an American subscription-based OTT platform, meaning it is only available in US regions."

[@AnnaDoes]

Na he knows. He’s just joking about never watching sports 😂

[@anonymoustroll1549]

​@@AnnaDoes I love how you respond to the comments instead of him. You both are wholesome! 😅

[@tasnimulsarwar9189]

​@@Gatorade69 I don't exactly what you mean but I'm from South Asia and even we get ESPN.

[@EddieOtool]

A fair chunk of Canada's TV is US channels...

[@moleyboy9650]

I am never sure when Dawid is being serious or sarcastic. Haha, it's always guess work!! This is such a cool pc.

[@ZaPirate]

you're one of the few channels where I don't skip the ads. Linooooooooooode

[@UnveiledShadows]

Dawid finally got me with his sarcasm for a quick second with that ESPN "idunnowhatitis" remark

[@guesswho2778]

it looks like its the clockspeed that is the problem. with how it was sitting close to 30 watts the entire time, i suspect its being done via a power limit to reduce temperatures, which can also be slightly increased using throttlestop. the cooling on this is good enough that i believe you could give the cpu another 10 watts and it should be able to cool it fine. ive increased the power limit on my 15 watt i5-8250u to 22 watts, tricked the cpu into "reducing" the power limit after the turbo time has finished down to 22 watts and done some undervolting to allow the cpu to do more in that power limit and drastically improve performance in games (with the igpu), i even gained a thousand points in cinebench r23 over the stock voltages, power limit and turbo time limit.

[@Compscott8]

Would have been cool to have a link to the unit that you bought and a comment about the price.

[@milessmith2362]

Ok I watch the tutorial that Dawid watched and I can safely say I have never seen someone tear down a small form factory pc with such ease in my life.

[@rubindublone5932]

1:57 So when I attach my NUC on the back of my monitor, I'll lean the monitor against a wall because I don't have a stand anymore?

[@c0r3k1d3]

As an american sports fan, hearing him say "And its got this weird thing called ESPNon it, Im not sure I know what that is" is actually so funny to me

[@frostilver]

*In fact those CPUs are only supported by older versions of XTU*

[@malcotechnhobbies]

I wonder if putting a different SSD would help somewhat, I always have stutters and such on my intel SSDs, just something to ponder lol great video as usual

[@arcticowl1091]

The video clearly shows the cpu is the problem. 4 cores just doesn't cut it anymore.

[@stevenhawkins179]

Nice. I wasn't expecting that level of VD on the installation.

[@mitch7525]

That's just windows 11 version of instant apps. They each take up 8Kb and aren't really installed until you try to open them. I tried to do a clean install without any of that stuff by using the "N" package install. It ended up taking me a lot more time to and was much more of a headache to install all the missing directX and other drivers than simply removing those shortcuts from the start menu.

[@STORMFIRE07]

@@mitch7525 ya tried tiny11? (A custom, completely unbloated version of windows)

[@Weaselszone]

@@STORMFIRE07 Tiny 11 seriously lacks security-wise and is not recommended for someone using it as a main OS.

[@STORMFIRE07]

@@Weaselszone interesting, didn’t knew that, thanks for info

[@EhEhEhEINSTEIN]

I got a 6i7KYB a few years ago and while I've never tried to game on it, it runs this YT video like a champ and is also my remote access/home media server machine. $250 and it came with 32GB of ddr4 2400 and a 1tb sata m.2, been an absolutely fantastic little machine.

[@NitrousXProductions]

One thing that came to mind, before you benchmarked the GPU. Did you turn on maximum performance in Nvidia Control panel? As this is a NUC the GPU maybe a mobile version of the RTX 2060 instead of the desktop version. You might find that you may get a uplift in GPU utilization

[@iradhill81]

I use my nuc phantom as an emulation arcade machine with the small form factor. I even use sinden light guns

[@E54OW]

very nice, have been looking at getting these Dawid, why dont you try out the old alienware steam machines? would love to see how those hold up

[@MarginalSC]

I think a Steam Deck would outperform those at this point.

[@E54OW]

@@MarginalSC maybe would still be cool to see

[@MarginalSC]

@Kaneeso Yeah. Most were just pretty average new tho. So I don't expect much.

[@E54OW]

@@MarginalSC yeah i had the gtx 960 variant i rememebr it being great for minecraft and csgo which was pretty much all i played at the time

[@Vipex_134]

7:51 whats the benchmark or the thingy called where you see stuttering, fps, usage of components etc.?

[@Krishna-pt3yu]

MSI afterburner I think?

[@neurokinetik]

There should have been a NUC-specific tuning application preinstalled that would allow you to set it into a higher performance mode. I have the same one, only with Windows 10.

[@tip00former1]

Yeah, I think he intentiallyu missed it. You can also adjust tdp. I have his version.

[@sir.fender6034]

In my past, I have worked as a consultant on big IT projects and I once bought 150 of these NUCs for one of my clients. They are good reliable products

[@linin7446]

wait is espn not known around the world 7:20

[@ogrejd]

Given that about the heaviest game I play is Skyrim or Fallout 4, I'd love to have a mini-PC like these (or the Beelinks or whatever) in place of the mid-tower (an ancient Antec Three Hundred) on my desk...

[@stevencarter7999]

Always been amazed by those little powerhouse PCs

[@xanderwusky]

Some real thought put into the making of this one it seems. Really cool to see! Super compact little pc and somehow they still get it to be super easy to upgrade (where the heat pipes where you can’t change anything anyway). And add some aesthetic stuff as well with the light. Does seem though that they forgot about the power brick and some random poor intern made that one 😅. Would be nice if that was a lot smaller. Especially with how small they are getting lately. Have a 140 watt brick that fits in my hand easily. This one could kill a rinoh xd

[@benjaminmiddaugh2729]

The smaller the power brick the more heat and stress on the components. While a larger size power brick does not necessarily translate to it being more reliable, I'd be more inclined to expect it to last longer and/or not try to burn me if I needed to move it shortly after heavy use.

[@xanderwusky]

@@benjaminmiddaugh2729 the 140 watt one i have is from apple. Their macbook pro chargers come with very small bricks for the power they provide. They dont get crazy hot either. Not more then id expect at least. And there is ones from anker for example that are even smaller. They are all good quality. Ofc though be more sceptical if its a sketchy brand.

[@benjaminmiddaugh2729]

@@xanderwusky I didn't say that smaller power bricks couldn't be relatively cool to the touch or high quality. But making them that way usually requires much more expensive components and more clever design, neither of which are cheap. And I suspect that the NUC market is significantly smaller than that served by Macbooks or third-party power brick suppliers, so the justification for making the power brick more expensive is correspondingly smaller.

[@Rockport1911]

NUC´s are great for small form factor builds. I read you can have new ones with a 13900, but it probably needs a seperate case for the RTX4090 and another case for the custom watercooling/ radiators :) 2:06 Like my new laptop, advertised as thinner and lighter but it comes with a massive 330W powerbrick you could hurt people with :)

[@DenverStarkey]

the higher end NUC's are a bit bigger , still smaller than a tower PC.

[@christheprotogen6447]

using a app called universal x86 tuning utility you can turn up how many watts the cpu can draw.

[@koliheroyash6776]

"that's so small" that's what- My lawyer suggested me to not complete the sentence

[@jagadishk4513]

That's what she said

[@EddieOtool]

@@jagadishk4513 There is no evidence for those words ever having been spoken, thus it is as well they had not. That's what his lawyer confirmed.

[@emillempea834]

i have the same one i mostly use it for streaming on twitch and fallout nv and witcher 3 runs really good on it skyrim runs great too even with almost 300 gigs of mods mostly texture mods

[@themaxster_]

While overclocking is out you might be able to get that little cpu boosting higher with some undervolting

[@arodOTG]

What's that overlay called that tells you the PC stats while you're playing a game?

[@duncyy7471]

have you tried to increase the p1 power limit with throttlestop?

[@Mu7eD-Stream]

David, I have something for you to test. Modern day hyper threading. I have a 11800H and I gain FPS turning it off. Even in BIOS it states that this may be the case for gaming. I get about a 20FPS boost in Warzone 2 in heavily populated areas with it disabled due to the CPU being able to maintain a higher clock. My question is this? Is Intel and AMD lying to us about threading and in fact the cheaper non threaded variants if not doing CPU intensive workloads are a better match for gamers? So why do they push threaded CPU's in prebuilt gaming laptops?

[@XuroX.]

It is kinda game dependent too

[@GerritTjaardAMarinus]

@Dawid Does Tech Stuff Whats that Benchmark software i see left top screen ??

[@Fred8ear]

Does anyone know what he uses to have the information just. Displayed up at the top? Like what software

[@fireloop69]

try using throttlestop it has many features such as removing power limit whic may help the poor cpu

[@ori73-y8n]

Great video! I just noticed I enjoyed previously when they were a bit longer (15 minutes plus)

[@maxxlr8tion578]

Maybe I missed something but it looked to me like the CPU was hard-locked to

[@2009numan]

how can you attach it to the back of the monitor ?, wont the monitor already be using the vesa mount for the monitor stand or monitor arm

[@kurtisrinker1202]

On some monitors yes, but on mine the monitor stand was seperate from the Vesa mount. That's the main reason I bought mine.

[@volvo09]

That is a nice power brick with complementary PC.

[@NinjAsylum]

7:20 All of that is standard on Windows 11. None of it is actually installed, they're just placeholder links to the Windows Store

[@roleynoley6410]

I still have my 4th gen nuc from 2014, still serves me well

[@1337Ox]

Don't know if this is the case, but I couldn't install Intel XTU on my laptop, until I tried to install old release of it, then it worked perfectly fine.

[@floridamangonwild]

Linode is a household name at this point, if i had something that needed something like it id defenitely use it

[@Thalassora]

I wish dawid could voice over LTT segues whenever linode has a sponsor.

[@jlgroovetek]

The CPU bottleneck is strange there imo esp in Cyberpunk. The 11th gen CPU was still clocked at 3.9ghz the whole time there...

[@swirrllfolfsky9803]

With windows 11 gaming, 16gb of ram will definitely hurt your performance. 24-32gb is what I'd personally recommend for gaming on windows 11. When I upgraded my ram from 16 to 32gb, at the same speed, I got another 25fps, running a Ryzen 5 3600, and rx 6600

[@JakeTaco83]

My wife got a laptop for work and it has a 10th or 11th gen i7 in it and I didnt notice until later that it was a 4 core 8 thread. How does that work? Seems like some marketing bs. same core/thread count as an i3. I guess its about that heat/power management.

[@ブィブィでーす]

Can you replace the CPU and GPU of this? wondering if mini PCs are upgradable just like desktops. I only own a laptop so these things are new to me.

[@XuroX.]

No

[@ganzano]

The power brick is larger to better handle continued use @ full output/duty cycle. Maybe ask questions if you don't understand engineering.

[@michaeldendulk9225]

Used to have one of these, brilliant little gaming machine and quite affordable at the time. Shame the higher end Intel gaming NUCS have mostly gone in a different direction now. The Intel ARC one is somewhat inkeeping with tradition, but is massively overpriced for what it offers.

[@adamlindholm9874]

what is the program he use to se tempraturs and stuff in game?

[@I_am_Allan]

3:15 May I please have my key back? I need to get into my apartment. 😜🤣

[@Sherry_Armstrong]

How much hard drive space can it hold ? I might get for a dedicated steam game machine

[@zetectic7968]

This has to be a better option than most laptops. As no price was mentioned I guess what you save on electricity you lose & then some in the premium price for the NUC.

[@warsnor47]

I love that ending 😂😂 Changes the clock speed and then the PC says F you I'm done

[@bobbyLovesTech]

Have you tried ThrottleStop to overlock it? Might be worth taking peak.

[@ChangeofPlayy]

where is the link to buy the jawn lol most people include it in the video

[@jds6014]

Shocked how well that performed

[@johnfullerroot]

Where can I buy it? What is the exact model to search for?

[@matthewvincent4918]

anyone know what softqware he uses to get the overlay displaying GPU and CPU power?

[@drzeissler]

Nice video what about the "serpent" one in direct comparison with iArc770M. ?

[@Electro_Vortex]

4:24 why does the ssd look wet?

[@StaelTek]

Perhaps some undervolting on the CPU could help getting a little less GPU bottleneck by using Throttlestop? Because it seems to be power limited.

[@petisCS]

How well do you think the NUC would do for 4k media streaming? No gaming just streaming UFC, netflix, things of that sort

[@cardavis2835]

Ce nuc 11 phantom est il fiable pas de soucis de démarrage ou autre problème e Bios ?

[@nabiluahmed]

I dont know why im looking into NUCs when I already have a perfectly good gaming PC and laptop. "Oh that would be cool to have plugged into a TV" isn't a good answer lol

[@reverseltetris]

- Hey I overclocked my CPU to 400MHz ! - Uh, you mean *by* 400MHz right ? - No no, it runs at 400MHz now ! - Oooookay...

[@philjtephenson41]

This is the only channel that i watch and dont skip the sponsor section......

[@bartoszterlecki8675]

How about installing throttle stop and then undervolt CPU so it can clock a bit higher at its 30 wat limit.

[@bradhaines3142]

intel disabled that around 11th gen

[@bartoszterlecki8675]

@@bradhaines3142 you are right. I forgot about it. But other option is to disable power limits with throttle stop so CPU can draw more power.

[@sollitdude1]

could you maybe link this product? it actually looks interesting. it doesnt come with its own screen, duh, but its a powerful little thing.

[@jlgroovetek]

Id love for you to test the NUC12 which has say a 12700 with an A770

[@benedictm]

Hi, enjoyed the video. Which Intel NUC is this? thanks!

[@73atman86]

why wouldnt you up the resolution to see if it bottlenecks at 1440p?

[@Teksers]

A real shame, they could've at least stuck a 6 Core CPU in there.

[@Sonic_1000]

Love how you end your vids. “So anyway the overclock don’t work KTHX BYE” 😸😸

[@Karti200]

I still got an older Brother of that NUC - Hades Canyon unit. The one with i7-8809G… only Intel mixed with Vega Mobile gpu :S

[@Amber57499]

I like your music choice, gives it some men's DIY home improvement vibes.

[@jpb7425]

Is it possible to know where you bought it ?!

[@MarcoZolezzi]

I use one of that Nuc with a RTX 3080Ti Razer Core X Chroma eGPU, works flawlessly

[@Vegatablez]

you should check out the minisforum neptune hx99g! maybe do some comparisons? very similar size but modern and it didnt launch at 9million dollars. Or maybe see how small of a thing you can shove your rtx a2000 into and still have a better cpu

[@SmithBeatZ1]

Your closet has to be plumb full with unique AliExpress PC oddities

[@OldGrayCzechWolf]

I have been running this NUC for several months now. Is great for what I am doing. Use it as a general purpose and gaming pc. Decided to pull the trigger on a NUC 11 extreme (Beast Canyon) based on my experience with this system. Will still use this as base/primary PC, the new one will become my new gaming box. Intend to use RTX 4070 in the Beast Canyon, max out the RAM and upgrade the cooling with better, quiter fans. Considering everything the NUC 11 Enthusiast is a great system. BTW, I hate the skull logo. Very cheap and amateurish. Should have been a radiation trefoil for a NUC.

[@Zerbey]

I'd buy one of these, I can see plenty of uses for it.