The All New QIDI PLUS4 - the best value to performance printer on the market

[@rohit4242]

You having tested this printer for months makes me feel much better about it. Previously they’ve released printers with seemingly limited testing so I’m glad they’ve changed. Qidi seems to learn quickly and improve their products a lot

[@NeedItMakeIt]

Out of any company I've worked with they are easily the top 2, they're organized and just pleasant to work with. They send me the products well in advance to make sure that I have the time to do a proper review. I think testing a machine over 2+ months is the way to go. If anything were to go wrong, it'd likely happen, but I'm confident that even if something else happened down the line, I have confidence with QIDI that they'd do the right thing. They're working hard to build a good reputation and to get to be one of the top companies for printers, and I think they're very close. I'll be using this printer for some follow up videos too, if anyone has any questions or materials they'd like tested, I can certainly add those.

[@rohit4242]

@@NeedItMakeItI was curious what kind of probe they’re using for auto leveling, it doesn’t mention on the website?

[@mickeymallette2663]

@@NeedItMakeIt So my decision lately has been on an X1C or see if Bambu relates a larger bed size in a comparable unit. How does the Qidi fit into that decision? I decided the X1C over an Ender K1Max. Is this Qidi more comparable to the K1Max? Up to this point, opinions seem to be that Bambu units "just work" more reliably than many others with less customization. I appreciate your point about lack of calibration on the Qidi. Just interested in your opinion if you'd offer it.

[@jimmoore1121]

​@@NeedItMakeItpaht cf

[@LuisElectronico]

@@mickeymallette2663 I am also looking for the same advice, been holding on buying a bambu printer because they will release a new printer soon

[@v2rv]

Nice to see them moving away from the cheap microwave aesthetics of previous models.

[@802Garage]

I didn't hate their old designs, but this is the best for sure.

[@kyle8575]

@@802Garage Same. I have a Q1 Pro. It's certainly more attractive than the bed slingers. I will agree though, the x max is quite ugly. This new Plus 4 is somewhat pretty.

[@realgoose]

I dunno why but that pointer finger is freaking me out 😂

[@NeedItMakeIt]

LOL, I really need to improve on that, I was thinking I can 3D print some arrow fingers to point in different directions, I couldn't figure out how to get the shell off this time so It was pretty awkward with the camera in there, a nice long yellow arrow finger would be extra creepy :)

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

@@NeedItMakeIt😂😂😂

[@helixxharpell]

Doesn't freak me out. What freaks me out is the rubbing on the bearing rods!😮 Idk, I guess I get loss of lube anxiety sometimes. 😅😊

[@stew675]

@NeedItMakeIt maybe 3D Print up a pointer ring? Basically an attachment that goes on the end of your finger, with an arrow/pointer on it? That would sort of keep on brand, while perhaps making it a little easier for people to follow instead of being distracted by the drawing on your skin?

[@NoMercyFtw]

I actually like it I think it's funny

[@G2bb101]

Qidi finally made a printer that doesn't look like it was made by Fisher Price. They honestly could have stopped there for me

[@thuglaza4728]

Nah you're foul for that 🤣🤣🤣

[@G2bb101]

@@thuglaza4728 sorry, *Emo Fisher Price. Is that better? 😂

[@802Garage]

Wow! Wider frame, larger belts, thick bed, insulation, Ethernet port, they really paid attention to a lot of engineering points on this one. The print quality looks phenomenal. I think they looked at what all the real quality testers have found in that a stiff printer with a solid motion system is necessary for high quality high speed printing. Seems they must have a decent extruder design as well. Granted we would need to see some prints without fiber filaments up close to really scrutinize, but it's looking good! I just got my Plus4 and I can't wait to use it and make some functional car parts. 😁 All of the ducts for the challenge look sweet too. Super excited for that.

[@joshstephens3224]

Did it work? Mine is hot garbage. And I'm not even close to the only one.

[@802Garage]

@@joshstephens3224 Yes it's working awesome. Hot garbage is not very descriptive. There are a lot of helpful people including me on the official Disignorecord, take out the ignore. I'd recommend that if you want help troubleshooting. Support remains quite responsive as well.

[@dwdinbel]

Just bought mine! So glad you posted this so I can get a hands on look! Love my Q1 Pro and love your videos.

[@GeekDetour]

Mike, to me the most disruptive thing is: Qidi dared to change the BELT - and that's very interesting. I want to see more about the VFAs (or absence of VFAs) in this printer. Great video.

[@3DandTeePrinting]

We've printed PPS with the Q1 Pro with no issues. If I NEEDED a bigger Engineering Printer I would Definately go with another Qidi

[@jasonwiltjer9]

QiDi has been knocking these printers out of the park lately. I would easily go with these over a Bambu Lab P or X series at this point.

[@delsydsoftware]

I've had a lot of success with Polymaker PPS-CF on the XMax-3 as well. I'll be curious to see how Qidi's own PPS-CF filament compares.

[@adrianpip2000]

For real? That sounds extremely enticing. I have almost convinced my boss to buy an FDM 3D printer, but since we are a chemistry lab, most materials would have to be reasonably resistant towards organic solvents and such. Our department wants us to buy some equipment (basically fancy plastic funnels that need to be resistant to chemical waste) that would cost a few thousand euros in total, but I'm trying to argue that it would be cheaper to buy a printer and make them ourselves. Have been trying to find a printer that can do high performance materials (PPS, PVDF, PA12, and similar), but most seem to be outside of our price range (roughly 1k EUR). If the Qidi printers can do this, then that seems like the ideal fit for us. Then I guess it's just a question of which model we should buy. If I may ask, how many failed prints before you could do PPS without issues? And what about bed adhesion? Also, with nylon (e.g. PA12), any issues with bed adhesion or warping (if you have tried)? Any other things to keep in mind?

[@delsydsoftware]

@@adrianpip2000 I've used the X-Max3 for Polymaker PPS-CF, Qidi PA12-CF, some PC blends, and CPE-HT (which is like PC, but is dishwasher safe and is resistant to some chemicals). I was able to use the stock profiles for the PA12 and PC. The CPE-HT printed with the stock PC profile with no issue. For the Polymaker PPS-CF, I took the stock PLA profile and adjusted the extruder temp to 325c, and the heated bed temp to 90C, with no heated chamber. This was based on Polymaker's recommendations on their Fiberon PPS-CF10 page. I was getting successful prints immediately. They even had the PPS metallic ringing sound, so the crystalline structure was somewhat aligned without annealing. I don't have a lab oven, so I couldn't dry the filament at 100C for 10 hours. However, I dried it at 70C for about 24 hours and had no issues with moisture. For adhesion, i use Vision Miner NanoPolymer adhesive on the stock textured PEI for everything. It works amazingly well for every material I mentioned above.

[@infernoeagles5812]

@@adrianpip2000 just buy one of them you seem to have the knowledge I would just buy one you not going to get any experience from talking to us you have capped but here is the rule of thumb look at the data sheet go to 3d tech website find PPS look at recommended specs you find that you extruded temps of at least 360c and bed temp of 140 to 160 and a heated chamber Now what I recommend you doing is looking at the voron group and or rat rig group I’m in the process of building my own high temp 3d printer capable of doing PEEK An here is a sales tactic I want you to find the most expensive printer but don’t tell them price at first you want to rave about the capabilities that this printer has and what I can do and all the amazing stuff and then tell them for the low price of like a quarter of a million but in the back pocket you have 4 other printers that well do the job just fine. You want people to get excited you want people to understand what y’all be capable of doing Talking about the cost savings and also the ability to sell these prints that come from the machine. Good luck with selling the mustang and giving them the pony Also if someone asks questions just tell them no and or wait until the end of the presentation

[@teedjay91]

There is this line on the Tech Specs page of the printer: Multi-Color Printing Compatible with QIDI Box(Multi-color). I can't wait to see what that QIDI Box will be! I don't think it will be compatible with previous printers though, my X-Max 3 can't p0op :(

[@NeedItMakeIt]

Probably not, it'd be tough to do backwards compatibility, it might be possible to mod the machine to make it happen though. I'm really curious too, I hope I can get my hands on one of them, I'd be more than willing to buy it just to see what it can do. I'd even be happy if it could do just 2 colors as long as it could also run TPU though it.

[@teedjay91]

@NeedItMakeIt It would be a smart move to make it campatible with TPU! Many people want to do conpliant mechanisms, and it would be in line with the engineering side of 3D printing that Qidi is more aimed at.

[@MemelordSupreme]

Same my X-Max 3 is over here like what about me??!? No klipper .12, AMS compatibility? V3 hotend or chamber heater upgrades? It would be so nice to retrofit some of these new upgrades since it is their flagship printer.. Kind of feels like we'll be required to buy the X-Max 4 when they release the Qidi Box. Kind of a bummer if that's the case.

[@joshstewart2131]

I think the generation 3 devices are going to be abandonware from Qidi. They appear to have given up on Klipper updates and so many of the hinted features are never going to materialise. Really love the printer, but having a hard time trusting Qidi.

[@MemelordSupreme]

@@joshstewart2131 Definitely feels that way. It's a huge kick in the teeth considering how they managed to turn around the x-max 3 from the launch issues into a beast of a printer. It's an absolute shame the way they are handling it now. I really like their printers but I sure don't like it being abandoned so soon. Having to rely on the community to further update it seems like the only option today.

[@nachot6592]

I'm extremely surprised. The jump from each generation of printers they release seems gigantic. They do listen and that's a great sign.

[@mohistschool1003]

Yeah, I have been following QIDI for a long time and I feel that plus4 is one of the best value 3d printer this year.

[@NeedItMakeIt]

I think they're finding their niche and I like it. I know not everyone wants to print heavy duty parts, but I like the idea of being able to do just about anything you need to. To your point they've been changing the printer style bit by bit and including what people want the most, now they have the clean looking printer that looks like metal, I think that's what people want. The flat panels for me are really nice, because we can now think about mounting a Skadis or some storage to the sides easily, before that was not really possible. I don't know what Bambu will be releasing soon, so it's hard to say if they will be competing, but I think the bambu will be very $$. I've heard that it will have an IDEX setup which would be nice, I'm not sure if it would be compatible with an AMS, or if there will be another version of it. I guess we'll have to wait and see. The competition is heating up, I'm excited to see if anyone can compete with the Beast that is the PLUS4!

[@joshstephens3224]

Someone is listening to someone, but it's not us. I bought a Plus4 on this particular gentlemans recommendation, and it is hot garbage. And I'm not even close to the only one. There's a whole thread in the Qiditech reddit community about fighting Qidi for a refund.

[@saturnmedia1]

I’m very excited but I waited to buy the q1 a week ago lmao. Now I’m gonna wait to buy this one because they usually fix any issues that are discovered within the first few months. My q1 from them has the upgrades that every video was complaining about.

[@Arrowsmith86]

Same boat, bought a q1 pro like a month ago, wish I waited

[@joshstephens3224]

​@Arrowsmith86 Keep waiting. Like an idiot, I listened to a KZbinr and bought this thing. It is hot garbage. I've had it for weeks. Not a single print. I'm not the only one. The qiditech reddit has become a refugee camp for Plus4 owners with dead printers.

[@Chris-14all]

Can you please enlight the topic of the nozzle. Is it easily changeable? What type is supported: hardened, high flow? And how good is the part cooling fan 😁 ? And can this fan duct easily replaced by some community envolved high sophisticated light green new one ?

[@matejlachman5895]

That arrow finger is ingenius way to educate us. Very often I cas see someone describe tiny piece of some machien while having it whole in one shot. I have no idea what term to connect to what part. With that pointy finger of yours I instantly know. Thank you for that!

[@trt969]

The bed and nozzle max temperature is what I`m loooking for... Only thing missing for me is a second tool head... If this printer had it I would probably buy it... I`m waiting for a while for a printer that has the ability to print high temp filaments and has at least 2 heads...

[@SquintyGears]

How long do you expect to wait for such a machine to hit the market?

[@trt969]

@@SquintyGears ​I don`t know man... I have a printer to tinker with (Ender 3) and a reliable one (P1S+AMS)... I was thinking about building a voron with tap changer but the nozzle temperature would still be a problem... I dont know Why but I have hopes for the next bambu printer... I will just wait for now. But this Qidi plus4 is looking awesome! If they realease a reliable AMS like product (like their web site states) and they sold shipping from my country (like bambu does trough resellers) I would easily buy it if i havent had a P1S.

[@SquintyGears]

@@trt969 yeah i was just curious about how fast you feel the industry is moving and you know it also plays in with how common of a usecase that is. Because nobody would be against a more capable printer, but every feature comes at a cost... And it seems to me like now the average printer buyer isn't a tinkerer or an engineer/prototyper anymore. It's just people who print nick-nacks all day... They only need PLA in every color under the sun. With that prediction in mind, I'm annoyed that future, more capable and precise, printers aren't going to be dropping in price to performance anymore. I'm hoping for the open source "AMS" solutions to polish up and at least put some pressure for multi material to become universally supported. But I think the specialty tough materials aren't going to get their time in the sun.

[@Hal1970]

Go for a RatRig, you won't be disappointed.

[@felixyasnopolski8571]

Think about used Palette. I bought Palette 2 for 100 eur, and it's doing amazing job. It works by calculating the length of the filament required to do one color before switching, then cuts one filament and fuses it to the another. And connects to the Klipper indeed. So you can turn any printer into multicolor/multimaterial. The only thing that might lack in that - TPU. You can do the TPU as well but AFAIK you need to calibrate splicing for the TPU

[@jasonwiltjer9]

Wow this printer seems super good. I've had my QiDi Q1 Pro for a little over a month and it's been amazing. I got it for $350 so I can't complain but the Plus 4 seems like they made all the right improvements. The main annoyance for me with the Q1 Pro is with the filament loading and nozzle cleaning and both of those have been addressed! I might pick this up down the line.

[@NeedItMakeIt]

The Q1 Pro is still on the top shelf for me, you can't beat the price an the performance and I'd still recommend that machine to anyone looking for a good price, this machine is just the big brother and I think it will have the "AMS" compatibility if that's something that matters for people. Most of what I do is only 1 color, on occasion it'd be nice to add some text on that first layer here and there, but it's not super critical. I think for printing parts to sell, the color is a good think to have though. It's a solid contender and I think it should be somewhere close to the top they went way beyond the competition on the parts for this machine, it's beastly how massive everything is inside, very impressive work by QIDI, how they're able to do all of this and keep the costs down this low, I don't know.

[@jasonwiltjer9]

​@@NeedItMakeItI completely agree. QiDi has been knocking it out of the park lately. Also, if you check their website it shows that there is an AMS coming for the Plus 4!

[@802Garage]

​@@jasonwiltjer9Wow $350 is a crazy good deal!

[@artemyevtushenko8722]

Yooooo this is nuts 😮 Not in the market for a core XY but this is so great to see - will be watching them closely now.

[@JTs3DPrints]

Just ordered up my 4plus. Will arrive for Thursday. Line up now includes the Qidi 4Plus, Q1Pro, XSmart3, and hot rodded Ender 3v2 converted to direct drive. Looking forward to using the 4 Plus!

[@NeedItMakeIt]

Nice! I it a nice machine. I just passed the Q1 to my brother to try out, it has been a workhorse, for the price it is still possibly the best value printer out there, this printer is right up there too, it really just depends on what you're looking to make with it.

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@NeedItMakeIt My Q1 Pro is seeing some miles, love doing nylon glass fiber for cases. I will tell ya though my tiny Xsmart 3 is a true workhorse it chugs out tons of smaller prints effortlessly at great speeds. I am looking forward to getting the 4 Plus set up, hope I have enough depth on table I use for it to fit, otherwise it will have to takeover my deskspace. They saying first quarter the AMS unit will get released, I am very excited to be able to do multicolor on prints. Plan on making chute that will feed into a 20 gallon reclaim pail. I have turned into a huge Qidi fan over the past year, they listen to users, my plan is to open my own channel in Oct/Nov time frame which highlights 3d printer use in a small home wood and metal shop. I have 4 years under belt now using printers and am amazed by how quickly they have been moving along since Klipper hit the scene. It is an exciting time to be into 3d printers. Busy teaching myself Fusion 3d the past few months.

[@joshstephens3224]

r/qiditech Come on over and suffer with the rest of us.

[@BennyTygohome]

I think this will be my next printer, i like that it can print ppa pps-cf for super strong and temperature resistant functional parts. 👍🏻

[@ohaleceiffel]

Thanks for the pointer drawn on your finger. Extending the index finger and gesturing in front of it can be confusing to some pets.

[@CandaceWatson-n8w]

Yes, you made the filliment cooler I was talking about in the last video. I can't wait to see how it performs.

[@zackj997]

$799 for all those features and a 305mm print bed is a very good deal. Just waiting for someone else to come out with a toolchange printer that isn’t a $4k prusa

[@psx1986]

Just sold my K1 Max and picked up this bad boy, arriving in 5 days. I can't wait to print ABS

[@SOHCHEAD]

The side panel insulation and a few other elements are essentially 1:1 with the X1E from BL. I’m glad these are becoming more common at a lower price point.

[@Resyektt]

I know you’re not saying qidi copied Bambu but I always think it’s funny when people act like qidi is the dupe since they’ve had enclosed consumer xy printers for for far longer. Once again, that’s not directed at you, just a comment about things I’ve seen people say lol

[@SOHCHEAD]

@@Resyektt Totally get what you mean. In this instance I mean it seemed like the foam panel insulation was near identical to what I have on my X1E, which might not even be exclusive to that machine. Potentially even the same supplier. There’s definitely some spawn camping on anything non-Bambu it seems these days. Seems like a solid machine and a noticeable upgrade, I’m glad they’re taking feedback from the community and have a more open source approach than BL.

[@mikestewart4752]

I use your Rod Sloth all the time brother! Thank you 🙏

[@Zoran_07]

Excellent video as always, I'm starting to get interested in QIDI PLUS4 :)

[@NeedItMakeIt]

Thanks! I plan on making a follow up video to answer some questions from the comments and to test some more parts and materials too. I'd like to tests more PETG, I like using PETG because I find that it stays really flat, but it also is so sticky.

[@josefludvikbohm5390]

Please talk about bed detection sensor and extruder/ hotend details. Any chance you could run some softer tpu through that? Thank you! ​@@NeedItMakeIt

[@MakerViking]

I'm saving up the gift cards I win on Thangs for a new printer, and this is one of the printers I've been waiting for. It doesn't disappoint, and is still on my list of potential new printers.

[@Dimitris1963]

Thanks for your review! Quick question: Are all materials printed with a 0.4 nozzle? What kind of nozzle is included?

[@connerjones4554]

For those of us who need a printer in a quiet space, could you compare this machine to a mk4s and a P1S? Thank you for the great review!

[@VacFink]

Appreciate the video. Well done. I hope QIDI makes the turn. You can see the effort they are putting in some of the details to be a great printer. Its impressive too that all of the reviews online frequently note their fantastic customer service. But you have to ask yourself, why are there so many new owners experiencing issues to need support. They have a track record of issues at launch and based on the exclusion of reviews from other reviewers who previously had issues, it doesn't inspire confidence. I found just a few reviews so far and this is the one with the least issues. Its a bummer, because that's a solvable problem and to see it repeated release after release is counter to the engineering and heavy duty parts. They just need to test more and better, and have a clean transparent launch.

[@stew675]

It is a mistake to assume that the only reason people turn to support is when something goes wrong mechanically. People contact customer support all the time even for fairly minor things. For example, a print not sticking to the build plate, issues caused by retraction settings, issues caused by printing some filament with too low or too high of a filament temperature. Basically, anything you can think of that you'd imagine someone new to the hobby might ask any number of online community forums, or can be looked up in an FAQ, then customers will ask these questions get asked of support as well. When KZbinrs mention good customer support, they mean that the company typically responds within 24 hours to such things, instead of 2-3 weeks.

[@VacFink]

@@stew675 I agree on that point, but if you look at point of purchase reviews like amazon, the details of the customer service is very commonly because the machine isn't working. Its not the content creators reviews that are the only factor, its the individual buyers. It paints a picture that is counter to the goals of the design. My point is they can be a formidable competitor if they can stop launching unrefined products and improve their quality control.

[@billbyrd9845]

Kudos for the switch location, but the cord on the side too? I wish you'd have saved the support removal for the video. The inside surface looks really nice.

[@UntrobledDamo]

Is it noticeably quieter than others with the insulated panels?

[@iamroboneill]

Looks great, thanks for the detailed information on the belts, fans, and other features. I wish they'd pushed it to 380-390 nozzle and 140-150 bed as that would enable really advanced filament use - I guess that will be reserved for the Plus4 Pro or Plus 5.

[@willofthemaker]

Looks like a nice printer for sure. would have loved a bit more Z height as well. I guess that will be the X max 4. The size is still pretty good nonetheless. having the power switch on the side is better than the back, but why not just put it on the front? I never understand this. My 2014 Lulzbot had it on the front and is super easy, barely an inconvenience. Just put the switch next to the screen. pretty tempting.

[@marklandsaat3696]

That looks like a total winner to me. I have a Voron 2.4 and I build my own chamber heater for it, but I have to say that this looks a lot more appealing to me, than building another Voron

[@joshstephens3224]

You'll spend more time trying to get this to work than you would building a Voron. I'm one of the idiots who listened to this gentleman. I'm not the only one. The qiditech reddit is littered with people like me who bought $800 paperweights.

[@OddJobEntertainment]

BL has some serious competition with this one.

[@CRIZZZLPT]

I am more than curious about what their big printer probably coming this fall will bring to the table.

[@joshstephens3224]

No they don't. I got mine weeks ago and haven't printed a single thing. I bought mine on this particular "influencers" recommendation. Buy the Plus4 if you like writing emails and taking apart new printers with serious quality issues. There are entire communities on Reddit centered around getting this damn thing to work or fighting Qidi for a refund.

[@gwchomperz6471]

It’s not competition when everybody’s copying what BL is doing. It’s not gonna surprise me when their new printer coming out in Q1 of 2025 blows this thing out of the water.

[@joshstephens3224]

@OddJobEntertainment Correction: Bambu will have competition from the Plus4's that actually work. The build quality is hit or miss at best. My Plus4 has been sitting in my living room for three weeks. Still not working. I'm not even close to the only one.

[@TheNerdArmory]

@@joshstephens3224 What's the issue with yours? There are a lot of people having issues with their bambus too but most of the time it seems to be user error.

[@MoisFamilyTech]

Wow, I think this might be my next printer, that k you for your review and Sharing this!!!! 😁👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@keiz_]

I am looking at getting this Plus 4, would you recommend waiting a few months in case any issues pop up like for the Q1 Pro did that they fixed with a minor revision, or would it be fine to get one now? Also thanks for the review! Great video! I was looking to get a Q1 Pro or a P1S, but I'm glad I waited. Something interesting on the Qidi home page, on an early bird image for the Plus 4 they show what looks like an AMS in the photo and it says coming Q1 2025

[@NeedItMakeIt]

I suppose if you can wait, that's always a good idea; I haven't had any issues myself and overall the reviews are very positive and the company has excellent custom service too, which is not so common these days. There is always a chance that something could pop up that's unexpected and maybe the price will drop depending on how the competition responds. I'm just about to do some more printing on mine now, and this time I'm going extra fine with the layer heights to see how low it can go for some printer Limbo :) Thanks for the support it's always nice to get some feedback on the reviews, this one was quite positive compared to most of the reviews I do, I'm pretty critical, it just happens that there isn't much to complain about and there isn't even anything for me to fix or adjust. Normally I have to make at least one follow up video to design and print something.

[@mathewbrunza2813]

The shell being ABS makes it a better insulator for heat while also keeping the costs down. 👍

[@whatsup3d]

The web site says "Compatible with QIDI Box(Multi-color)" but I can't find any other reference to this on their site so it guess it's wait and see what they come up with.

[@exen900]

Says coming in Q1/25 for me. Really interested in how that is going to turn out, don’t really want another Bambu

[@joshstephens3224]

It's wait and see when Qidi is gonna send you replacement parts for your new printer. This thing is garbage. I bought one on this gentlemans recommendation. I'm not the only one. The qiditech reddit is littered with idiots like me who bought $800 paperweights.

[@Robothut]

What great looking new printer. Thank you for sharing with us.

[@ali-sleimanchehade6129]

Honestly this printer looks and feels way better then the bambu lab x1c!!! But honestly what I would love to see is a fusion of this printer with the Pursa XL multu head change 🤤 I can print multi material like the shell can be made of TPU and the inside of the part ABS CF and use support material and what could be also interesting is that it can print with 2 nozzles at the same time like one nozzle lay the filament and the other one is dedicated for support material

[@Crappy.Consumer.Reports]

Yeah and also it would be honestly cool if it could fly but not like a drone more like a bird plus a rocket launcher and also if it had a 8k 3d camera, 2k screen, pneumatic articulating tank tracks, and also VR!

[@ali-sleimanchehade6129]

@@Crappy.Consumer.Reports yeah that would be amazing 🤩🤣

[@joshstephens3224]

Someone is working on simultaneous extrusion in a single part. I can't remember who. Neat stuff. I'll see if I can find it.

[@ali-sleimanchehade6129]

@@joshstephens3224 ohh that sound nice 😍

[@Loneman_OG]

I'm so glad I didn't pull the trigger on the X-Max 3 a few weeks ago! Could you answer a couple of questions, please? 1. Is it possible to mirror the door hinges? 2. Have they sorted the filament run-out sensor so it doesn't reset to "off" whenever the printer is power cycled? 3. Would you send the printer to me if I pay the postage? 😜 This does appear to be the printer I've been looking for but I may give it a couple of months of the public playing guinea pigs before I buy one; the price may drop a little by then, too.

[@seanclarke5293]

VFA stands for "Vertical Fine Artifact" not "Very Fine Artifact"

[@stevecaruana-j8t]

Hi. Thanks for this review. I think that this printer is superb. Recently, Prusa released the feature of extreme 75° overhangs. Curious to know how this machine compares. Also, will a similar, new, Qidi printer with larger print dimensions be released soon as I need to print with larger dimensions (400 x 400 x400 mm) would be perfect for me?

[@TheConradiii]

Qidi makes a dual head printer.....or used to make one because I own it. Its a beast. It worked great for many prints. I once ran it for a week straight and it just kept printing. I forgot the name (maybe 600 or 6000). Anyway, obviously they can do it and maybe they will do it with this line of printers. Although i think 2 headed printers are in the past with AMS type of addons. good video

[@zk_6312]

Looks good. I will have to keep this one in mind next time I buy anothet 3d printer.

[@cybergnetwork588]

Qidi is definitely the second brand I would buy a 3D printer from. No Creality, Prusa or Flashforge for me anymore!

[@NeedItMakeIt]

Originally before I got the Q1, I wasn't sold, I had heard good things about their custom service, but the reviews were only okay, nothing spectacular. I've been using the Q1 for quite a while now and it's a great machine, I'm not sure you can beat the price for what you get and the machine with the heater (with proper HT cover) still performs. I actually love it so much that I wanted my brother to give it a try to see what he thinks about it. He has the K1 right now, and there are some issues with extrusion and a wobbly frame. So the Q1 changed my mind about QIDI and now, testing the PLUS 4 , I've even happier with the direction they're going. There isn't a lot of crazy innovation, small incremental changes to end up with overall a superior product that still doesn't break the bank.

[@andreasherzberger812]

I really like the new design. I recently had the X-Max 3 on my shortlist as a new printer, although I didn't particularly like its design. The Q1 Pro didn't really impress me, a bit too small and some details not really thought through. It seems that Qidi has done everything right with the new Plus4, and the price is really very good. If I hadn't gotten a Creality K2 Combo in the 40% promotion , the Qidi Plus4 would be a real option for me. I don't really need multi-color / multi-material, but it is nice to have , and Qidi will probably have one available soon.

[@EFLO3D]

I have a Q1 Pro and I still have a hard time believing its a sub $500 printer. Awesome machine, just wish they would let you mod the firmware.

[@segment932]

But what is the difference between the tungsten carbide nozzle and the bimetal hotend versions?

[@tenmilecreations]

Thats a nice printer, The AMS would be the next step to make this a top tier printer, I dont print much multi color but I do like having 4 colors at the ready., That machine looks wider maybe 5 or 6 spools!!!!

[@802Garage]

Coming Q1 2025.

[@steffenhehn2033]

Nice Printer! I hope an "AMS" is comming for it. At the moment i own a X1C + 2 AMS and thats nice, but i miss a chamber heater. Thanks for that video!

[@woodcat7180]

1st quarter of 2025 for $228

[@steffenhehn2033]

@@woodcat7180 Very cool! thx!

[@Shapeshiftyr]

I’m sold 😮 thanks for the review!

[@joshstephens3224]

NOOOOO!

[@Shapeshiftyr]

@@joshstephens3224 What's wrong?

[@joshstephens3224]

@@Shapeshiftyr I have one sitting in my living room that hasn't printed a damn thing since I got it weeks ago. I've replaced every board in the head, replaced the hotend, replaced the nozzle, and still nothing. I'm not the only one. The qiditech reddit has become a refugee camp for idiots like me who bought $800 paperweights. Cancel the order. Go with a different company.

[@cxsey8587]

This thing looks awesome, def looking to get one

[@raphaelboll6096]

How would you say it compares to the P1S, which is widely considered to be one of the best bang for buck printers out there. I am not sure about regional pricing but in germany I can buy the Bambulab P1S for 599€ or 849€ depending on whether the AMS is included or not. I would assume that is pretty price competitive with the 799$ of the Qidi Of course the Qidi has more features than the P1S for 200$ more. For only 50$ on top you could get a full P1S combo with AMS. I own neither of them but i am currently looking at buying a P1S with AMS for reliability reasons (kinda tired of the ender 3 V2s problems) But i am interested to learn how this new release holds up to that combo at a fairly competitive price. Additional question: i know Bambulab is known for their durability and reliability. I have seen very good reviews of qidi products, how do they hold up over a longer time? I need a main printer that is reliable. I can still tinker enough on my Ender 3.

[@NeedItMakeIt]

I guess it depends on what you're printing, if you're okay with lower temp materials like PLA and PETG, some ABS, the P1S is pretty good. Also if you want the AMS apparently they have something planned for the 1st quarter of 2025. Aside from that, this printer is far more capable than a P1S, not knocking the P1S, they're excellent machines too. IMO I'd sell the P1S while it still has a good resale value and move on up, but I can't speak for anyone I don't know your financials and what it is that you like to print. I can say that this machine is built like a tank, it allows us to make parts that wouldn't be possible on other machines. I think long-term it would be a good idea to vent outside too if we're printing the really high temp materials.

[@raphaelboll6096]

@@NeedItMakeIt Thank you so much for the detailed reply.On my Ender 3 I am printing mostly PLA but would love to expand on ABS, ASA... as well. I will now definetely reconsider and might go with the Qidi. It is definetely a helpful piece of information that you've been using it for a few months without issues as it already gives some idea as to what we can expect reliability wise. And that is a high priority for me at the moment. I dont shy away from fixing things myself but by now it has happened more often than i'd like that my ender 3V2 has had a major issue right before an important project deadline. I will definetely wait until it is available to purchase in Germany and then we will see if i go Bambu or Qidi.

[@thedave1602]

Now that the competition is not only catching up, but starting to improve beyond Bambu, it'll be interesting to see what Bambu releases this year.

[@joshstephens3224]

They haven't caught up. I bought a Plus4 on his recommendation and have yet to print anything. It is literally garbage. There are whole communities on Reddit dedicated to getting this damn thing to work.

[@kazdean]

How will they ever surpass Bambu when all they have done is copy ideas from them?

[@kazdean]

@@joshstephens3224 you got scammed, he gets a kickback from Qidi off the link he shares.

[@somerandomperson8282]

So they have now finally achieved feature and performance parity with the 1.5 year old Bambu Labs X1? Well done Qidi! To be fair they do have a larger print bed than the Bambu X1.

[@stew675]

...and a chamber heater, and wired ethernet, and tangle detection, and hotter nozzle temperatures, high print bed temperatures, better insulation for higher chamber temperatures, easily accessible spool holder, open source, and $300 cheaper. Apart from all that, it's basically the same!

[@marcayres8567]

Looks good but is there not an issue with the bed blocking the heater outlet when it's down there?

[@AmixLiark]

How does it do with soft TPU? It's the extruder gear nice and grippy?

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

Don't personally see a need for me to print these kinds of materials for the foreseeable future, butt it's nice to have a printer on the market that doesn't break the bank for those that do need it. Tho if it had the auto calibration etc of the X1C, it'd probably be the most attractive printer on the market rn (not that it doesn't have things about it that are attractive already) SuperVinlin

[@klaasbloem]

And next year color printing with the Quidi Box!

[@jeffmcclure888]

Very nice video! Nice prints!

[@realgoose]

Are you printing in your studio? What are you doing to keep the air clean? I recently installed the bento box from Voxel. Would one of those fit in this printer?

[@kristian6087]

It seems to have a active coal filter like the bentobox pre installed mentioned at: 5:54

[@NeedItMakeIt]

I think since we're entering a realm of high-temp materials it would be wise to find a way to vent outside, there is room inside for a bento box for sure, that'd be good, there is a carbon filter right now and the exhaust is active during the print so it will help, but long-term for any printer we should be trying to get that air away so we can avoid any unknown long-term impacts. I'm happy to make a video about this, I'm also thinking that the system would be similar to what you'd see for dust collection, we'd have a bar running along the wall with flexible connections, we can create a magnetic adapter plate to easily connect and remove the coupler and then we just need a fan to draw air out slowly to create a negative pressure inside the cabin. Of course if you have one printer it's much easier, is drilling a hole in the wall an option? I'm thinking the ceiling is another way, essentially an exhaust fan into the vented attic space.

[@realgoose]

@@NeedItMakeIt the bento box also contains a small hepa filter. Cheap to replace, about $1.50 per filter. A full dust collection/filter would be a great video series. Testing air quality as you go. My understanding was that if you are printing ABS, filtration or venting outside is highly recommended. Now I have seen videos showing particles in the air from even PLA or PETG. Love to see your thorough analysis on this topic

[@BowaKaras]

@@NeedItMakeIt "but long-term for any printer we should be trying to get that air away so we can avoid any unknown long-term impacts. I'm happy to make a video about this". I would love to see this video. It is a concern and it would be interesting to see how you tackle it. Thanks for the video!

[@NeedItMakeIt]

I've been doing some research and there are a few approaches that would work, the trick is to come up with something that works for everyone anywhere, and that's not so easy. I'd imaging that there are people who cannot drill a hole in their walls and who may not have access to a window that opens either. Fresh air from outside is always best, using the HRV approach, and there are some smaller units which are pretty low profile, but again, those require drilling, so more thought is needed on this subject!

[@herpderp1662]

Will stick with my X1C

[@kongchho]

It’s great to see other companies trying to catch up to bambulab but hardware is only part of it. Bambu is winning due to great software as well.

[@802Garage]

I wouldn't really say this is catch up so much as beating in certain areas such as the nozzle temperature and heated chamber as well as build volume. Qidi has been doing enclosed core XY for a decade. Their firmware is open source and the new Qidi Studio is based on Bambu Slicer which is of course basically Prusa Slicer. Qidi's screen works great and the connectivity is awesome as well. No need for account sign ups or sharing data either.

[@Captain_Harbatkin]

​@802Garage The newest beta of Orca slicer now supports the plus4 too.

[@802Garage]

@@Captain_Harbatkin Indeed that's what I'm currently using, though I still have Qidi Studio as well. :)

[@edstewbob]

What is the noise level with and without the door open?

[@marc_frank]

i guess nathan is going to test that

[@PaulMcElroyWasHere]

Ignoring price and its AMS, is this comparable, better or lesser than the Bambu X1C? Can we get an accuracy comparison? Anything else we should know?

[@user-ic6xf]

Be careful putting something hot on that tempered glass top panel. They can shatter really easy and a big temperature different might cause that.

[@suzyamerica4679]

Oh yay, a bigger XY printer with fewer things that need to be done to it. Interior lights. A port on the back for gentle negative air pressure to waft away the fumes.

[@artIfactuaI]

Quick question, how loud is it? If I were to run it overnight and sleep, could I?

[@Zack-dw5op]

Would this work with a Bambu AMS?

[@7h314m]

After all the problems with the Quidi in the previous generation, like the nozzle and plates issues, I’m not going to be a guinea pig again for a new product full of untested features, just like Creality with their MMU and another new hotend. It’s better to wait for them to fix the problems and buy something that’s already been tested and corrected

[@TheNerdArmory]

12:20 this is huge tbh. Not having to run tests every time you buy a roll of filament is massive. With the amount of spools we go through it'd be a huge waste of time. Thing is... I'm really curious about this printer. If this ever got a multi color system added to it, i'd seriously think about getting one. I'd want ot be sure it can print as high of a quality as the bambu's do for me but one thing i'm still curious about is its cooling. I'd want an entire video dedicated to overhangs for this printer because it seems like it has better overhangs which is absolutely massive. That being said, seeing a cool plate on this like the one i'm running on my bambus now where i'm running bed temps at 30-40 for pla allows for better overhangs, i'd imagine they'd be flawless on this.

[@Phiz787]

799 for it? Wow! How is nozzle changing? Replacement parts?

[@rustyshackleford6341]

Cool vid. You mentioned pps filament. Is there a brand of pps that you would recommend over other brands of pps?

[@arthurtorricer4544]

@12:55 I thought you said you don't smell anymore ..lol.. great review..I own 2 bambu labs..one J1 snapmaker idex..and now looking for a larger printer to try stronger filaments.

[@michawasiljew6620]

This is my next printer.

[@NeedItMakeIt]

It is a beast of a machine, I love that they way beyond on the frame and parts to make it as stiff as possible, so far it has been so nice to use, I rarely have a printer that I don't need to do anything to so that it performs well, the X1C was one and this is the other. I suppose I did use the JB weld though, I guess that does count. I'd like to see QIDI also make a move on their own version of MakerWorld too, I see a lot of potential.

[@michawasiljew6620]

It's very adorable for what it offers, Couldn't find anything about it but I believe ironing would work better in a heathed chamber which I'm using a lot recently.

[@Skugen32]

It would be cool if you could onvestigate some "engineering" plastics and maybe when it would be suitable to use them, compared to other regular filaments!

[@jud-asinsmith-stansell2022]

Considering this or a Bambu. Starting from zero experience, my big concern is a knowledge base community where I can find answers to my newbie teeth-cutting issues...

[@stew675]

Qidi have an official Discord server with a channel dedicated to Plus4 users, as well as channels dedicated to more general 3D Printing questions. The users there are very friendly and helpful, and there's almost always someone who's going to answer any question you have within an hour or two at most. Failing that, there are also official subreddits for their printers on Reddit, though they're not nearly as active as the Discord server is.

[@JohnDoe-ot5ir]

Did you test the chamber heater?

[@SteveBennet500]

I didn't see any mention of the flow capabilities of the hotend, also no mention of noise, normally these printers are pretty loud.

[@helixxharpell]

Love your channel sir! I know the nice young lady at Auroatech has been testing this printer but your feed came up first! 😃👍🏻 I have questions tho. I run my filament straight out of a Sunlu 4 bay dryer thru ptfe. Would that be a challenge here? What about the user interface? Didnt see that in the video? & filament changing thru the U.I.? Btw. I bought mine today & spare parts only stocked in China & delayed 2-3 months. 😮 Thanks for your efforts! Very grateful! *Hillbilly Engineer*

[@MP_7]

Great review!

[@kimmotoivanen]

Has 6 cm more print space in X and Y, while being Q1 only few cm wider than Q1 Pro. Looks a lot better too 😉

[@DaveEtchells]

The auto calibration is a big missing feature for me, but would need a print head camera or “LIDAR”, which would jump the price. Other than that it’s a very appealing printer.

[@nickm8651]

Does this nrw model have self leveling bed and printer head trst before printing? Or do you have to get inside to set the head depth manually before using? Really like you attention to detail and teat like what I see. Im in the market in ordering in the next day or so.

[@cbpuzzle]

Same price and volume as K1 Max but nice LIDAR or load sensors. Nice platform, belts, heat management, and AMS option though. Need a comparison of K1 max and Plus 4

[@NeedItMakeIt]

I have a K1 max, sadly, I don't recommend it anymore, there are too many issues related to extrusion with the machine, bed level is also an issue, but I've made several videos to correct those. The "Lidar" on the Max does not work correctly and I ended up removing it after too many failed attempts. The machine looks nice, but the frame is not rigid enough and the extruder is unsupported on one side of the extruder gears, which means that they flex too much. I think that it was a pretty good machine when it was released, but now there are better options out. At this moment, I would recommend the Q1 for someone looking for a printer at a good price that still performs really well, I'd recommend the PLUS4 for anyone that wants to print bigger and heavy duty parts and I'd recommend the X1C/P1S for anyone who is desperate for color printing. I like the ability to print in color, but I rarely use it, the AMS is nice for storage though.

[@tonycosta3302]

I’m surprised so many new printers are using linear rods rather than rails. The modding market is adamant that rails are better, but are they just overkill? They don’t seem to be needed.

[@exol511]

Rods are just cheaper and have lower mounting tolerances. To get proper use out of rails you need proper mounting tolerance as well as higher precision alignment (not to mention the small rails generally used are bottom of the china barrel quality products)

[@FlxVideos]

Interesting. Is it worth to sell the q1 and upgrade? Thats the question in mind now

[@NeedItMakeIt]

Oh, that's a tough one, the Q1 is still a good printer, do you have any others printers you can sell instead. If you don't and you only want one printer, I'd move up to this one because it will open up some more options for you, I would expect that there will be some kind of AMS or something that at least makes this printer compatible with one because of the nozzle wiping/pooping they've integrated. I'm expecting great things from QIDI in the future, I think they need to find a way to get their own version of MakerWorld going too so they have an ecosystem to be able to compete fully with Bambu. The price is right, the company is good to their customers, the quality is good, they're most of the way there to be one of the top companies IMO. What do you think?

[@noobtoprogames3167]

Print quality is really damn good it and price is also good would definitely kill X1 and k1max.

[@andyharris3084]

Does this printer have its own equivalent to the Bambu AMS for multi colour multi material prints? The website hints at it I can’t find it listed.

[@joshstewart2131]

What are the klipper and moonraker versions? They appear to have abandoned the X-Plus 3 despite it being only about a year old (In usable form) with ancient versions of the firmware.

[@adamguzik9350]

@NeedItMakeIt, could you test the Plus4 with TPU

[@st0mper121]

Have you got to play with the Qidi box? the MMU for this printer?

[@derEchteFaker_offiziell]

Without looking at the price/performance ratio. Which one is better, this one or the bambulab x1c?

[@chm2528]

I'm considering purchasing my first 3D printer. Would you recommend this model, or do you think something like the Bambu Lab A1 would be a better choice? Thank you for your input!

[@E90]

Price wise something like the P1S is a better comparison considering the cost of the plus4

[@premrockon]

I wish companies wouldn't charge crazy prices for shipping to or within Europe. Was looking at another CoreXY but shipping to Germany was so high that there wasn't much left to a Bambu P1P.

[@802Garage]

This is a superior printer to the P1P or P1S overall.

[@Kimberlie1]

QIDI provides free shipping.

[@jkbdevel]

Has there been any news about multi-filament printing from Qidi?

[@craigspaid3777]

I was about to buy a Bamboo printer but this has made me rethink my decision. My remaining concern is the value that seems to be in the Bamboo ecosystem (software, website tools/library etc.). Opensource for me is not an necessarily an advantage as I tend to run my machines as close to stock as possible. Could I get feedback from those of you who have run both the QIDI and the Bamboo ecosystems and is their added value from Bamboo?

[@Dmitry_IMHO]

Can you share what are the exact external dimensions of this printer? Can find this and especially if there are any limits to out it close to the wall of the back and on the right.