The Allure of Authoritarianism | What The Wave is Really About (Film Analysis)

The Wave is based on a California class experiment gone wrong in 1967. The Wave shows the us the psychological vulnerabilities we all have to authoritarian movements. With many Americans using the Nazi label as a club, it's important to consider: How many of us would have faced down the movement? How many of us would sacrifice social status to do what is right? In this analysis, I breakdown the themes presented by the film and compare the German school with our own social and political climate.
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[@MachineNun]

In a chaotic time, the desperation for an authority to come along and solve all your problems makes sense.

[@remc0s]

This is why people should realize it was those same authorities that created all those problems in the first place.

[@noma5050]

Nothing solves all your problems. You solve some, and live with or outgrow others. It's work, every step of the way, and that's the only way to grow. Grow up, grow wise, grow to be human. Authoritarianism feels easy, because it's a shortcut. Someone else solves everything. But you don't grow - not up, not wise, not at all. Subhuman, you don't comprehend that nothing was solved. Your problems are worse, different, more of them, and the original problems, the ones you took an easy shortcut to escape, are still there. Painted in different colors. Do your own individual problem solving work. No shortcut, no easy. Become human. That's what democracy and freedom are.

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

"True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

[@hiperborejac]

​@@remc0s You stupid or what? If people seek dictatorship from one man(from revolutionary man) to resolve problmes created by elite(in charge) how is that a same people ?

[@individual7046]

I remember in high school my history teacher said that they could not perform a experiment like this ever again especially in school. If it where performed today in a high school it would most likely result in several suicides and a school shooting.

[@Ciborium]

It is being done today, in schools across the nation. Marxist teachers indoctrinating students to be Antifa terrorists. Groomer teachers instilling confusion and mental illness in students and then exploiting them for sexual gratification. Racist teachers teaching students that some races are inferior and that this inferior race must be fired first from employment for social justice.

[@TheaPeanut_69old]

@@Ciborium what kind of bullshit are you alking about? "Instilling mental illnes and confusion" You are the one with mental illness. The only thing that you said that was true was about the racism (presumably) against white people.

[@yuvrajrathod6535]

Where to download this movie with English subtitles?

[@noneyour316]

​@@yuvrajrathod6535You could purchase it on KZbin Movies. That is where I found it with English subtitles.

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

​@yuvrajrathod6535 I watched it on Amazon Prime (UK) a couple of days ago.

[@Mixcoatl]

I really wish more people in the English-speaking world saw this film. In addition to being a great film, it's also a mature look at the subject, in contrast to the often-times cartoon-ish way authoritarianism is talked about by those who have absolutely no experience of it.

[@plebisMaximus]

You guys should watch more German films in general, they're pretty awesome.

[@gravityissues5210]

I saw the original 1980s US TV version. I guess people today complain it’s very dated. But it made an impact on me.

[@yuvrajrathod6535]

​@@plebisMaximusWhere to download this movie with English subtitles?

[@valmid5069]

*Stanford Prison Experiment is another good cinematic example*

[@spittertron4920]

Most people don't acknowledge the post-experiment interviews in which the students stated they behaved as they did to live up to what they believed were the expectations of their professor.

[@Jimmy1982Playlists]

Good video! Although I think you left out the most important line of that Fight Club speech: "We have no Great War, no Great Depression. Our Great War is a spiritual war... _our Great Depression is our lives."_ Scary, how relevant that movie (and The Wave) are to America, today. I graduated high school in '00. That monologue from FC was of huge significance to me and my generation, and those to follow, coming out of the 20th Century (the so-called "American Century"). And the last 20+ years have only further proven the truth of those words.

[@LifeIsAStory]

I probably should have added that, YT get's a little difficult the longer the clips is. But as deaths of despair continue to climb, the quote has more and more relevance.

[@KevinJohnson-cv2no]

Your great depression is your lives. Speak for yourself. Those that aren't too weak to fashion their own meaning & succeed in life are doing just fine lol, it's the meek dweebs that need to be assigned a role and designated a purpose like the rest of the followers that are aimless now. And these same meek dweebs leave themselves open to manipulation & subjugation at the hands of the Masters (those who fashion their own meaning and aggressively thrive in life, as mentioned previously). Tyler Durden himself is a great example of this lmao. Dude makes a bunch of average joes with insecurity problems believe it's modern materialism that's the issue, meanwhile he's banging the crap out of the first girl he lays eyes on whilst stressing the lack of romantic connection as something admirable, never wearing the same thing twice and having his lackeys drive him around in a limo. When Fight Club gets big he even starts wearing designer fashion in the final scenes. According to the TradCucks that usually support him in going against "decadence & modernism", everything Tyler does is hypocritical & blasphemous. But that's the point; Tyler doesn't actually align with any of these views, and doesn't need to. He fashions his own meaning in life, and uses these buzzwords simply as tools to manipulate those weaker than him, whilst he enjoys all life has to offer. Watch the KZbinr's "Andrewism" video titled "The Psychology of Authoritarianism" where he lays out two distinct authoritarian archetypes; the authoritarian follower & The Authoritarian Leader. Most people who long for authoritarianism are of the follower mindset, and these are the people that usually pop into mind when we think "authoritarians"... but The Leader is a different beast entirely.

[@yuvrajrathod6535]

​@@LifeIsAStoryWhere to download this movie with English subtitles?

[@samuel5742]

The idea that a balance between order and chaos exists is pretty theoretical, humanity has existed for centuries at a time as either, but only recently as somewhere in between. Society today is the exception, not the rule.

[@mjs0770]

When I was in middle school in the 80s we watched the Wave TV Movie after school special (1981)... good movie!.. the 2008 movie in your video looks like a remake of it... Thanks for the film analysis

[@LifeIsAStory]

My pleasure, and yes, it was a remake that went to the Sundance Film Festival. Pretty crazy story.

[@mikelomez9313]

OMG yeah I must have saw the same thing in school! Hard to believe that it got a remake

[@nightmarexgaming120]

@@LifeIsAStory Remake of a movie based on a book about a real experiment

[@noneyour316]

​@@nightmarexgaming120Said experiment happened in 1967 in Palo Alto California.

[@ElZedLoL]

This movie or the associated book was watched/read in every german high school I know students of The saddest thing about this is Tims journey being so relatable

[@MiraPacku]

yea same (am german too) I wish more nations would have their schools require to watch/read/discuss this kind of stuff

[@BlueHooloovoo]

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Those full of doubts are desperate to follow those who are sure of themselves.

[@amanitasaturn]

Not always. Being full of doubts can actually lead one to mistrust people, specially those who come up with easy solutions (life's not easy anyway so it sounds sketchy) or/and discriminatory solutions (who says I'm not the next on the list? It sounds harmful).

[@ivanasimic2072]

yes, good description of a cult

[@SeyhawksNow]

I watched this in psych class in high school. I was confused more than anything at their behavior. Now with radicalism running the lives of people I know, it's just sad.

[@imnot5211]

Thing is this movie is inspired by a real life event that happened in a high school in California, in 1967 I believe.

[@purromemes7395]

People forget that fascism is less of an ideology and more of a mindset

[@theoriginalt-paine3776]

A mindset & a methodology. If you look at all the different fascist states in history, they all had very different policies, but the methodology of the implementation of their power was the same. Even Stalinism & Maoism, while offshoots of Communism, employed fascist methodology & can & should be considered forms of fascism.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

People need to wrap their heads around the fact that that's literally every ideology.

[@FireOccator]

You mean authoritarianism. Because fascism is an ideology, with specific principles, that happens to be authoritarian.

[@bearsy7497]

Fascism is a concept

[@leadcowgirl]

Amazingly prophetic analysis with Twitter Files dropping right now!!!

[@joshu8263]

Haben den in Geschichte geguckt, ziemlich guter Film. Thanks for the recap

[@LifeIsAStory]

Sure!

[@nightmarexgaming120]

Fun fact this movie is based on a real experiment from a high school in America and is a remake of an American movie

[@johnnyguitar6639]

Never bothered watching this version of it. Saw the original (so to speak) Back in the 80s. I think it was a short tv movie back than. Was interesting to watch how it started. But not much has changed really. All humans need is a charismatic leader. Good thing we don't have those anymore.

[@ivanasimic2072]

yes you have - rump and maga cult - you didnt learn a leson

[@jamieandrei]

This is based on a 1967 experiment in a US school, the subsequent book & movie.. interesting remake..

[@user-cd4bx6uq1y]

Here when 32k views. I was surprised why wasn't there a movie of this experiment, turns out there was

[@darger3]

We are moving from orders of the past, however do I believe we are still in a state of flux. Individuality can bring United order if there is a sense of respect, yet I am not sure the human ego is ready to allow that mutual respect.

[@switchblad333]

Wow, basically my German teacher showed this movie to us and im sure we all missed the point of the movie (i'm not German)

[@zipsey]

Nuclear family is not the only end all be all for providing order for children. A stable homelife, regardless of the label, is.

[@rwilson1197]

From chaos new order shall rise

[@jamesmmcgill]

Streng Geheim

[@eddiematthew495]

Great analysis

[@DocOrtmeyer]

The wave is an 80s movie too 😅

[@michealvega1373]

Loved this movie

[@Illhostility]

I'm curious..does anyone see this phenomena in todays social movements? I do have political views, but I'm curious in all views and beliefs and what people see from every vantage point.

[@reazonuk2362]

Absolutely. The rise of populism all across the west. The influence of NWO conspiracy theories have a huge part in all of this just as the anti semitic -masonic conspiracy theories did in the rise and during nazism. All the far right/alt right groups today see the battle today between rich vs poor and esp Nationalism vs globalism. The very basic idea is that globalist lobby groups like the WEF led by klaus Schwab essentielly are the unofficial world government guiding the west and so this branches off in a multitude of ways. The WEF or Davos is increasingly becoming talked about with their very real influence even among moderates in the msm these days-but for many followers of the conspiracy theory the time for talking and waking ppl up is running out and action is needed....and in my convos with them online that means violent action. I've bee told repeatedly and just the other day infact, that the WEF is NOT a lobby group ( IT IS ) but is infact THE world government . To them the tyranny is already here and that is why they feel force is now neccacary . I warned them that there is a major difference , a line between the influence of globalist think tanks influencing politics and what they saw. To them shutting down the WEF, preventing any 1 associated with the group running for public service, arresting everybody involved with them, imprisonment and even MURDERING them was not a violation of freedom of speech or anything else because the tyranny is here and action is needed to now to overthrow them. It simply can't be done democratically and "the sheep " are too many, too oblivious to whats going on. I've been warning ppl for years that if you continue to simply ignore and shut down conspiracy theorists without engaging with them in debate , it only strengthens their beliefs more and to the point where they will believe they are victims in the struggle and being shut down because they are speaking the truth.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Excellent analysis.

[@TheSteinmetzen]

Can you please do an analysis on the movie 'Disturbing Behavior'?

[@sahilhossain8204]

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[@orcamentomib3003]

A regra é simples, todos aqueles que são excluídos da sociedade encontram uma função dentro da autocracia, que leva a uma egomania e viram um grande problema, o Ego bem explicado pode resolver inúmeros problemas, mas ninguém estuda essa área

[@dallasdenton4235]

This movie was so disturbing to me. Much like the Stanford Jail Experiment. Its incredible how fast any sort of power can cause insane authoritarian greed and unity. Ethics go out the window with a matching uniform and a matching step. Strength in unity. Ethics begone. Those who thirst for any sort of power become intoxicated by it.

[@eldino2840]

The only bad thing about it is that the movie stets it in Germany. The real experience of the same name takes place in the USA. That's a reason why kt worked cause the teens thought that their country couldn't be an authoritarian one. So it was easier for them to get into the trap "This isn't a dictature. Out country beat the nazis and orher dictatures so no way we could become one ourselves" wich ks dangerous for every country and that's what Germany has been trying to do. They teach kids that they're not guilty what happened since they weren't born yet but that they must learn to identify when someone try it again. I'm Belgian so i'm maybe not entirely right about the US and Germany but it's what i think. Good. Vid by the way

[@janedoe3043]

We need an American adaptation now. Released before the next presidential election or it will be too late.

[@LeighMet]

This was an German Adaptation of an American Story from 1981

[@pppaspaodwuiowefheuifgeuifg9fg]

What is happening in 0:01?

[@darkdork78]

If youre asking about the photo, I believe its a meeting of the German-American Bund (a pro-nazi org) during the 1930s.

[@DEROGOIOFFICIAL]

We can now officially re-brand it into THE COVID!

[@wmverk]

_Ordo Ab Chao_

[@cookieboxzzzz4161]

you know seeing this just makes me relate it to the Ideology of transgenderism sorry to say it but it is true, to be fair it is becoming more of a cult now but it is quite similar it is only a matter of time before it can transition to this or it maybe already happening around the world and that is just sad

[@West_Coast_Mainline]

You are not a imperialist You live in Missouri

[@randommaddlhat7358]

There is little evidence that individually experienced dysfunctions, such as poverty or broken homes, enhance the odds of becoming an authoritarian. Newer research actually suggests that the amount of group integrity, power and ethnocentrism that an individual is willing to display solely refer to the conditions under which the group is formed an how it's existence is clinged to the idea that there is no alternative to it. This determines wether a group builds a positive or negative identity, whereas the latter means the surrender of the individual conscience and belligerence against any kind of deviance.

[@IPlayWithFire135]

My thoughts were already leaning in the direction you lay out here, but also... This kind of thing has no real explanatory power. Who are the communists the "Wave" is fighting? Who are the Jews it wants to put in camps? How would it or could it gain the support of some faction of conservative establishments and the rich? What renewed claim to a social stake does it offer an insecure middle class? Real fascism had clear answers to all of these things. The uniforms and speeches and leaders were instrumental to these ends. But things like the Wave make them the end, based in individual neuroses and fulfilling their needs, not an expression of social forces and conflicts. The problem is the source material. All of these weird experiments from the seventies just seem like moralistic fables embellished by their authors for attention, and all of them amount to little more than vague warning against collective action, "authority", and "conformity", the most boilerplate things you could oppose in an atomized individualistic society like our own, all based on the pointless misanthropy that was current at the time. They offer nothing in the way of answers to the questions we need to be asking in our current crises.

[@verdancyhime]

Am I more than you bargained for?

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

So they want to be equal but love fascism which is the opposite of equality. Why not anarchy?

[@tefky7964]

Anarchy doesn´t stop anyone from having absolute power, it doesn´t have any means to enforce equality.

[@Nick-ce6lt]

Gotta give it to the Germans. If they know one thing, it's how to natsoc.

[@everydaycommentator6036]

Despite the explanation. I didn't understand it. How will wearing white and moving hands reduce social inequality? Seems like and abstract movie that can only be appreciated by appreciaters of fine art.

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

Probably you need to see it to fully answer your questions. Wearing a simple uniform (white shirts) eliminates clothing as a status symbol. Implementing a value of "unity" allows formerly excluded kids to be part of the group. I only saw the original 1981 version years ago, but I think "Wave" members even tried to help students who weren't doing well academically to bring their grades up for the sake of the success of the whole group.

[@TheaPeanut_69old]

@@oliverbrownlow5615 I think the wave could have been a great movement. Although a large problem with it was the hostility towards "outsiders" and the removing of individuality.

[@bradenharris8718]

What? It has nothing to do with art. It’s literally showing you how these groups with these ideologies start. In today’s world, you can see examples of this but they call it something else. It has nothing to do with the clothes and signal, those are examples of.. oh, never mind. If you can’t understand from this then there’s no point

[@MaticTheProto]

Secularism definitely is a good thing. Less child pregnancies, women‘s rights and less homophobic bs

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

"There are no Moral authorities and standards to be respected" "Morality, wrong and right, is all relative. What's important is if people feel good in the moment or not" "There's no need for a child to grow up in a stable family with a Father and Mother" "I can show young girls porn and talk about sexuality all I want" "Males can get pregnant" "Age and maturity like everything is subjective and a social construct meant to hold us down, let people do what they feel is good" "If you make me feeling uncomfortable about my life or have something that makes me envious yet again I want you punished or dead"

[@MaticTheProto]

@@robertortiz-wilson1588 wow, you sure went down the fascist propaganda pipeline there with all the bullshit you’re spewing.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@MaticTheProto Nice buzzwords you have there.

[@MaticTheProto]

@@robertortiz-wilson1588 you are free to live under the taliban

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@MaticTheProto oh boy, from "fascism" to the "Taliban." What could be next

[@miketrotman9720]

Another "analysis" is that teenagers will believe and follow anything.

[@ImperialKnight86]

You missed the whole point of the video. Also, “The Wave” was an experiment designed to show teenagers the dangers of authoritarian. But your prejudice blinds you to that.

[@DocOrtmeyer]

I stood up against the wave during the pandemic. 😉

[@briangriffin5701]

🤡

[@soccom8341576]

The Fauci cult, the vac, the beer virus, the disregard for truth about the leaks was the Wave. Pandemics increases demand for authoritarianism. The globalists, deep state, ccp, didn't have to do much.

[@ifyourepeatalieoftenenough8500]

Masken und pfeifen😂 für einen besseren Platz im Leben💔

[@spittertron4920]

Bruh, you can't go for the throat straight out the gate like that. Democrats will cry again like last time.

[@rayyf69]

0:40 Sounds like gender ideology today

[@TheaPeanut_69old]

Sounds like your just retarded.

[@3zzzTyle]

@@TheaPeanut_69old shh, your progressive friends will cancel you for this word.

[@datnoob4394]

LMAO You're telling me that Nazi's created a classless society?

[@gravityissues5210]

That’s not really the point, is it. Doesn’t matter if you really do it; it just matters if you make people believe you’re doing it. The Nazis were brilliant marketers.

[@derederekat9051]

lol, Unity is not strength, diversity it is.

[@mamaserritaJer50-51savdniniveh]

Sounds like today with the color wars 🕊Oh wow father God we need you to do what only you can. Let the enemy not have one of them not one of them. not old not Young not great or small . those that have done wrong those that have done right . father will you keep them mind body and spirit protect them save them save us Turner our eyes and our hearts to you. Let hearts not be hardened but stand on truth that Christ Jesus is alive and he still does miracles. FATHER breathe live. Your desire is for none not one to parish for we have all sinned and fallen short. Thank you Jesus that you died for each one of us and rose again and you will come back. It is in your name alone I pray . Do what only you can do for you alone are Our Hope🙏🕊 🕊️All have fallen short of the glory of God in the mighty name of Jesus. Hope LIVES Jesus is alive open eyes to see All HE is doing confess your sins .. Turn from your ways....He already knows and He loves you . THIS IS why Jesus came thank you Jesus let all creation sing of your Goodness by the power of your Holy spirit 🪔🕊️#foxnews #newsmax #espn #cnn #bbc #pbs #abc #nbc #msnbc #skynews #vox #goodmorningamerica #kimbel #rightsidebroacasting #cbs #skynews #cbn #glennbeck #joerogan #elevationchurch #statuescoup #dutchsheets #kentchristmas #ihopkc #kynanbridges Father thank you for opening our eyes. Soften our hearts in Jesus name 🕊️

[@josemama428]

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[@timholstpetersen79]

This shit reminds me of the protests for the HAMAS terror organization.