The Ambush That Shook The British Empire

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Davy Holden

Davy Holden

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@EdwardRoche
@EdwardRoche Жыл бұрын
About two years before he died, my partner and I, who at that time had a cottage in Castlemaine, were able to have lunch with Dan Keating. His nephews wife Eilleen cared for an elderly friend of ours and arranged the lunch. They lived with Dan in his home in Upper Ballygamboon, an area of Castlemaine. Dan was generally quiet but had some questions for us. He asked if I had done any reading and I told him that I had done a considerable amount of reading in 20th C Irish history. He asked if I had read any first hand accounts. I had not. Dan suggested Tom Barry's book and said that "every word is true". I did...and others....
@davyholden
@davyholden Жыл бұрын
That’s absolutely incredible!
@johnroche7541
@johnroche7541 Жыл бұрын
I know your county of Kerry very well. After researching the Irish War of Independence for over 20 years including Tom Barry I can tell you that not every word in Tom Barry's memoir "Guerilla Day's in Ireland" is true. Tom Barry stated that no one survived the Kilmichael Ambush which is untrue. Historians still regurgitate this erroneous fact. Auxiliary Cadet Frederick Forde MC survived the ambush. His condition was so comatose that the IRA thought he was dead. He was found next day by an Auxiliary recovering party. Obviously you want proof. There is a picture of him with a bandaged head in his hospital bed in the 17th January 1921 edition of the "Irish Independent". He would later emigrate to South Africa and later move to Northern Rhodesia(modern day Zimbabwe) where he would die in May 1941. Also what Tom Barry never mentions in his memoir and neither does his biographer Meda Ryan is that Tom Barry when he came home to Ireland actually failed an exam for a position in India with the British Civil Service ( Colonial Office). If he had passed those exams look how different the conflict in Cork would have been. No Kilmichael,Crossbarry etc. Tom has a connection to Co.Kerry. He was born in Killorglin which is not far from you. His father was a RIC man. Also in Co.Kerry Tom unveiled a monument in Tralee Town Park which is dedicated to an Irishman named Hawley who was murdered by the Crown Forces. There is as you know a housing estate in Tralee called "Hawley's Park" in honour of him. There is more discrepancies in his memoir.
@MaryRose-d9x
@MaryRose-d9x 11 ай бұрын
Guerrilla warfare in ireland.by Tom Barry....
@johnroche7541
@johnroche7541 11 ай бұрын
@@MaryRose-d9x The name of his memoir is "Guerilla Day's in Ireland".
@Imyourhuckleberry01
@Imyourhuckleberry01 10 ай бұрын
@@johnroche7541 Actually, I always understood that there were not 1 but 2 survivors from the initial attack at Kilmichael. A young Scottish lad, Cecil Guthrie also survived the initial ambush and although wounded he started to make his way back to the barracks at Macroom. Only a few miles from Macroom he was captured and “summarily executed”. His body was buried in a bog for 5 years or so after which time it was finally located, exhumed and reburied in Inchigeelagh Churchyard in 1926. The subsequent Free State government did inform the British government in a communication giving just the approximate location (but not specific location) of Guthrie’s body, albeit there were some typo’s in the communication itself.
@Dabhach1
@Dabhach1 10 ай бұрын
What the video doesn't note is that the Auxiliaries were supposedly the cream of the Empire and they had been rampaging unchallenged around the country for months. This ambush was specifically set up to break the myth of their invincibility.
@johnroche7541
@johnroche7541 10 ай бұрын
Even in the silent black & white footage of the Auxiliaries from the time they are described as "His Majesty's Finest". The latter appears in numerous documentaries on the Irish War of Independence and if memory serves me correctly this famous black and white footage of the Auxiliaries is used in the movie "Michael Collins".
@vatsmith8759
@vatsmith8759 8 ай бұрын
@@johnroche7541 You really shouldn't believe everything the newsreels tell you!
@johnroche7541
@johnroche7541 8 ай бұрын
@@vatsmith8759 Hundreds of Auxiliaries were decorated for bravery in WW1 including 3 VC holders. In Ireland 9 Auxiliaries would be awarded for bravery which were 8 Constabulary Medals and 1 Kings Police Medal.
@vatsmith8759
@vatsmith8759 8 ай бұрын
@@johnroche7541 Maybe, but you still shouldn't believe everything the newsreels tell you.
@johnroche7541
@johnroche7541 8 ай бұрын
@@vatsmith8759 First of all in my first post I was stating a historical fact. Believing or not believing was absolutely irrelevant to my point. Secondly there is no "maybe" about it. Hundreds of Auxiliaries were decorated soldiers from WW1 and 9 would be awarded for gallantry in Ireland. The Auxiliaries were the most decorated force in the world at the time on active .service.
@Andrewhicks-t4i
@Andrewhicks-t4i 10 ай бұрын
As an Englishman, l suppose l should be on the side of the crown forces, and maybe l would at the time. However this is history, and as history it should be told 💯 % accurately, no tampering or rewriting. I wish lreland all the best in a very difficult time. Finally keep your history true and uncensored, it's part of what you are 😊😊
@barrywhelan8572
@barrywhelan8572 10 ай бұрын
sure your irish@freebeerfordworkers
@johnroche7541
@johnroche7541 10 ай бұрын
@@barrywhelan8572 It is as simple as this. Barry's account in his memoir is not 100% truthful. For example there is information missing about 2 Auxiliary Cadets that survived the initial ambush. One would later be captured and executed by the IRA and the other Auxiliary survived. The Auxiliary patrol was not totally "wiped out". Also I certainly dont believe the British black propaganda version either. Unfortunately in Ireland everyone who reads Barry's memoir thinks it is 100% truthful historical fact which it certainly isn't.
@georgehead6780
@georgehead6780 9 ай бұрын
We …Should never have been in Ireland! Stupid Brit politics!
@MsFionaxxx
@MsFionaxxx 8 ай бұрын
Whatever the exact truth of this ambush, the murder of innocent civilians in Croke Park is absolutely true.
@MsFionaxxx
@MsFionaxxx 8 ай бұрын
A book written by a Telegraph journalist, Toby Harnden, has been issued with updates 25 years after first publication. Title - Bandit Country. Very worth reading. The original is available to read free if you look for it on the net. The update names people now dead, so no libel claims!
@westoncasteel5389
@westoncasteel5389 Жыл бұрын
I know a lot about Ireland but what I don't know I love learning. I've studied Ireland for years, it's been a dream to come to Ireland. For me I know that I probably unfortunately never will be able to but my whole heart is with Ireland believe that. 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
@John-901
@John-901 Жыл бұрын
Do you mind if I ask what country you're from?
@Irish780
@Irish780 Жыл бұрын
Never say never you can
@craigkirkwood4060
@craigkirkwood4060 9 ай бұрын
Nice little history lesson. I wish I could hire you as a guide on our trip to Ireland in September!
@phil2003ashleigh
@phil2003ashleigh 10 ай бұрын
Tom Barry joined up to see what war was like ! And boy did he learn how to train and structure how warfare was most effective. True soldier of Ireland 🇮🇪
@schizoidboy
@schizoidboy Жыл бұрын
One thing I heard about this raid was the fact they were close to their targets. I think Tom Barry, who served as a sergeant in the British Army in the Middle East, understood his men didn't have much marksmanship training. (Ammo was scarce so when training they were often just given four rounds) Barry reasoned that at close range anyone can hit their targets so he kept them close to about 15 yards or so. In any case they succeed in their attack.
@johnroche7541
@johnroche7541 Жыл бұрын
Tom Barry served with the Royal Field Artillery. He served in the Middle East and was part of the force that failed to break through to relieve General Townsend who was beseiged in Kut(Mesopotamia) in modern day Iraq. He actually refused a commission into the Royal Munster Fusiliers. There is a picture of a freshed faced 17 year old Tom Barry in his British Army in several local Co.Cork papers. He was never promoted beyond the rank of Bombardier. He had some disciplinary issues. According to his army medical record has "a mole on left leg".Tom in his memoirs "Guerilla Day's in Ireland" never mentions that when he came home to Ireland he failed an exam for the Civil Service(Colonial Office) for a position in India. His devoted biographer Meda Ryan never mentions this fact either. If he passed look how different the conflict in Cork would have been with no Kilmichael,Crossbarry,Rosscarbery etc. I have reserached the Irish War of Independence for over 20 years including Tom Barry. He was born in Killorglin,Co.Kerry the son of a RIC police officer.
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 10 ай бұрын
Well said and true
@Seamus322
@Seamus322 Жыл бұрын
My granda was a Volunteer in North Tipperary- got lifted by the peelers with a Webley on him- they were a little more than annoyed when they found dumdums in the chamber. Got let out after the Treaty, stood up for the Republic, and got a one-way ticket to NYC for his efforts. Before he passed on in the '90's, several historians interviewed him- we finally found out what he did during the Troubles when the Irish government uploaded the WoI Witness Statements.
@Interdiction
@Interdiction 9 ай бұрын
Expanding ammo is used by EVERY police force in the UK . Expanding ammo is also known as Dum dums
@andrewoshea5944
@andrewoshea5944 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for educating the world on this very important Irish history. You do an amazing job.
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 10 ай бұрын
Agree they don't call him big bad Davy Holden for nothing
@DerrickJenkins-s6c
@DerrickJenkins-s6c 9 ай бұрын
Great work, Davy. I love your work.
@Hanamy7777
@Hanamy7777 7 ай бұрын
Good man Davy. Nice to see a bit of real history for a change.
@MarvinofMars
@MarvinofMars 6 сағат бұрын
When a book sits proudly in many commanding officers of many of the worlds armies. Still today as essential reading tells you how good Tom Barry was "Share that among yourselves" best line i ever heard being used when throwing a frag grenade.
@agathe.gbr.
@agathe.gbr. Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the history lesson! :)
@hugohackenbush1554
@hugohackenbush1554 Жыл бұрын
The Auxies were pure trash. A more vituperative group of men I've yet to know of. I personally believe this is the way to take care of drug dealers. Cracking video by the way. Very well edited and a nice sharp script.
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 10 ай бұрын
I agree the atrocities the auxies did just in Galway is beyond belief
@lt8400
@lt8400 2 ай бұрын
The provos one upped them in warrenpoint. Took out a member of the royal family on the same day too
@russellbeaumont7131
@russellbeaumont7131 3 ай бұрын
I believe from Tom Barry's own book that after the ambush, he saw that some of the Column were visible shaken by what had happened. Barry ordered the squad to parade to bring them back tto military discipline. The "Parade among the Dead". Inspiring leadership from a truly great leader of men. 23 years old. His book is "Guerrilla Days in Ireland". A well written thoughtful account without a single trace of hubris. A must read for anyone studying these revolutionary events.
@caolruadh1
@caolruadh1 7 ай бұрын
My grandparents came from county Waterford and I would often be told stories about the Black and Tans but I was far too young to understand . How I wish I could recall all the history that they tried to teach me back then. Sadly there are none of that generation left in my family as, hearing their first had accounts would carry a greater impact than researching the information from books and other records in my opinion.
@marty8187
@marty8187 Жыл бұрын
God bless those men and women who gave their lives for Ireland
@benc6252
@benc6252 Жыл бұрын
In this instance it was more than a few auxies giving up their lives for Ireland. Very considerate of them.
@Keepingitrespectfulmostly.
@Keepingitrespectfulmostly. Жыл бұрын
My neighbour, went weak at the gob when he saw this. His father was called Thomas Barry and his uncle was Kevin Barry.
@paulcollis7651
@paulcollis7651 9 ай бұрын
This sounds like the scene of the ambush in THE WIND THAT SHAKES THE BARLEY.My grandfathers parents were from kerry where the IRA fought the British and also freestate forces. Love the turbulent history of the beautiful country, sad though most of it is
@skyriderize
@skyriderize Жыл бұрын
Excellent strategy!
@liammcnulty5889
@liammcnulty5889 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the blackwatch rebel song, I'm scottish and want to know what these traitors were all about
@declantwomey7525
@declantwomey7525 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait keep up the great work 🏆🇨🇮👍🏻☘️☘️☘️
@davyholden
@davyholden Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sojnab1
@sojnab1 9 ай бұрын
I met the Almighty Tom Barry when i was 7 years old with my Dad.T'was quite a moment
@Romchav
@Romchav Жыл бұрын
heres to the bhoys of kilmichael ✊
@maxfieldstanton4541
@maxfieldstanton4541 Жыл бұрын
A true hero. Growing up here in the states I wish I could have known more about these valiant men and women who fought so gallantly for freedom. I'm happy that this knowledge is here, though, so that my son can have access to it and learn why we never back down when the tyrant tries to claim our Sovereignty. Thank you for this, you're doing a great public service.
@kindlad6087
@kindlad6087 Жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting. Just a reccomendation if there's anyway you can show locations or similar settings while talking about events, like you did showing the auxies and tom's men, that gang. I'm interested in the castle now, the location of these events. (*edit* your short about the ambush was great) Lots of history youtubers will flash a map. The film footage at the beginning might have been good to display at some point while the ambush was described helps the imagination run while the storytelling is occuring. Just my opinion. Anyways, subscribed
@maudiemcateer90
@maudiemcateer90 2 ай бұрын
Great story!
@darnick54
@darnick54 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Loved it
@peterallison-ex4yy
@peterallison-ex4yy Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Davy. Another fantastic account of a pivotal time in Our History and a very audacious engagement with the Crown forces. 👏👏👏☘🇮🇪
@edwardphimister4525
@edwardphimister4525 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the history. I remember my Nana telling me the postman had a rifle on his back going up the glen road in Sligo 💚🇮🇪💚
@footscorn
@footscorn Жыл бұрын
My ancestors came from Sligo. They settled in the Irish Catholic sector of Liverpool so I decided to check my DNA . Results were 100 percentage Irish after 150 years.
@RabMccammick
@RabMccammick 8 ай бұрын
I can say..That today's Black and Tan in Ireland will be much harder to get out of the country..,... Those brave men i think would be ashamed of the way that Irish folk are being treated. Seen it all before with the RUC in the North of Ireland Disgraceful acts upon their own people. Said Days Ahead If You Think It Is OK To Pepper Sray People For Standing Up For Their Rights. Take Care My Friends....
@gregory9636
@gregory9636 Жыл бұрын
Ireland shall be free as long as men in the North keep her at it
@markosbourne5967
@markosbourne5967 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Irish780
@Irish780 Жыл бұрын
I been there a few times when I pass I just have to stop
@alessiodecarolis
@alessiodecarolis Жыл бұрын
It's incredible & sad how WWI bring so many sufferences also after its (official) ending, the revolt and following civil war in Ireland, russian civil war and poland- russia war, and the troubles from 1919/22 in Italy (and we know how it ended), this war pratically afflicted most european countries with a tornado of violence.
@davidbouvier8895
@davidbouvier8895 Жыл бұрын
And the ruinous reparations imposed on the loser, Germany, after the WW1 armistice that ended the war, which was basically caused by a bunch of imperialist powers squabbling over who got to steal and keep what, led directly to WW2.
@royandersen465
@royandersen465 10 ай бұрын
Very well said.
@jonathansteele9142
@jonathansteele9142 Жыл бұрын
"Hope you enjoyed that story" who doesn't enjoy stories of death and destruction?
@Marius_vanderLubbe
@Marius_vanderLubbe Жыл бұрын
One man's death and destruction is another man's fight for freedom from an oppressor intent on death and destruction.
@whitewolfpokemon1661
@whitewolfpokemon1661 Жыл бұрын
Can you cover the dripey ambush in cork pls
@sirrodneyffing1
@sirrodneyffing1 Жыл бұрын
"Shook The British Empire" 🤪🤣🤣
@alexanderv7702
@alexanderv7702 11 ай бұрын
The invasion of Ireland by the Church of Rome, which overthrew the Celtic Church, was the greatest disaster that befell the indigenous Irish Celts.😢
@genghisthegreat2034
@genghisthegreat2034 10 ай бұрын
Nonsense, and I wish I knew as little about it, as you do.
@michaelmayo3127
@michaelmayo3127 Жыл бұрын
Great content but, now all we need is the aftermath.
@TINCANsquid
@TINCANsquid Жыл бұрын
Barry's Flying Column.
@seanredmond4396
@seanredmond4396 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant thanks
@victornewman9904
@victornewman9904 10 ай бұрын
Tragic waste of time. Look at what is happening in S.Ireland now.
@Greetings_From_Cork
@Greetings_From_Cork 8 ай бұрын
WTF is "S.Ireland"?
@herbie70philip
@herbie70philip 10 ай бұрын
So it was a massacre. And you cry when it’s done back. Do you smell the hypocrisy of it all. Like the loughgall ambush in 1987. I wish people would stop the glorification of murder. I can tell you as someone who lost relatives in the recent conflict. That there’s no romantic ballads whistling through the air when kids are walking behind their parents or brother sisters coffin.
@wonjubhoy
@wonjubhoy 9 ай бұрын
No it wasn't. Only belligerents took part in the Kilmichael ambush. The war of independence led to the liberation of most of Ireland from foreign rule after 750 years of occupation. The black and tans were sent to Ireland to destroy a democratically elected government. They were like nazis in occupied France during world war 2. Maybe tell Americans not to celebrate 4th July because George Washington fought the British army and see how far you get.
@dancronin826
@dancronin826 Жыл бұрын
Thoes brave lads so galant and true
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@johnraymond-pz9bo
@johnraymond-pz9bo 6 ай бұрын
Was Tom and Kevin Barry related?
@thomasloughlin8526
@thomasloughlin8526 8 ай бұрын
What about the ambush at Narrow water? The greatest in the north
@VR-Stories26
@VR-Stories26 Жыл бұрын
Hi Davy, I just found your channel and love it. You have great delivery. Could I ask a favour please - some time in the future in your time of course, could you do a podcast on The Burning of Cork. You may have already done it and I haven't come across it yet. It would greatly assist me. Thank you and Best wishes
@batubop651
@batubop651 Жыл бұрын
I second this please! Trying to find out more about it too.
@arthurmiskelly857
@arthurmiskelly857 Жыл бұрын
Yes and when he's at it I'd love to hear his take on Kingsmill, LaMon and Moutain Lodge. They would be interesting topics
@ray101mond
@ray101mond Жыл бұрын
I'm asking my Irish compatriots which is true was Tom Barry a nationalist or was Tom Barry a socialist in the uprising? I would like it if there were quotes and or commentary regarding this matter.
@desmondhull5778
@desmondhull5778 8 ай бұрын
Tom Barry ex British service man and the son of an RIC man ,thats some pedigree for an Ira man.
@dontmesswithcrows
@dontmesswithcrows 8 ай бұрын
We're talking about Tom Barry, what's your point?
@ritalong8174
@ritalong8174 Жыл бұрын
I love listening to you
@senanshortt5521
@senanshortt5521 Жыл бұрын
The bhoys of kilmichael🙏🏽🍀
@MavericksDrone
@MavericksDrone Жыл бұрын
Just seen your passionate posts.
@computerdoctorrepairs
@computerdoctorrepairs Жыл бұрын
Irish Lives Matter
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Жыл бұрын
So true
@vatsmith8759
@vatsmith8759 8 ай бұрын
'Shook the British Empire'? Somewhat hyperbolic don't you think? Yes, it was a brilliant operation but I doubt if most of the British Empire - which comprised more than a fifth of the world's population at this time - ever heard of it.
@tinaj1845
@tinaj1845 8 ай бұрын
Domino effect - once Tiny Ireland could defeat Britain the empire lost its fear factor and collapsed soon after
@HereIam-rg3vy
@HereIam-rg3vy 9 ай бұрын
Why were they called the Turd West Cork Brigade?
@8maradona
@8maradona Жыл бұрын
Slimey auxies
@Bob-me8md
@Bob-me8md 10 ай бұрын
At feabhais - maith an fear
@henrydunn2245
@henrydunn2245 Жыл бұрын
B specials?
@markkennedy387
@markkennedy387 9 ай бұрын
And now, the Repubilic is in the EU. Think about it.
@dontmesswithcrows
@dontmesswithcrows 8 ай бұрын
Yes indeed and happy to be in it. The Brits fucked up big time by leaving.
@raymondmurphy9593
@raymondmurphy9593 9 ай бұрын
We need to move on!
@dontmesswithcrows
@dontmesswithcrows 8 ай бұрын
History is history.
@raymondmurphy9593
@raymondmurphy9593 8 ай бұрын
@@dontmesswithcrows I love history, thank you for keeping it alive for future generations.
@dragonbillylee4781
@dragonbillylee4781 6 ай бұрын
No, we need to learn from history. Most have moved on from the conflict with the British, but in case you haven't noticed, there are new black and tans in the country. And the RIC seems to have formed again. We don't need to "move on", we need a few tips!
@raymondmurphy9593
@raymondmurphy9593 6 ай бұрын
I agree with you wholeheartedly, History repeating itself! thanks for your reply .
@adam_p99
@adam_p99 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure it was significant. But I doubt it shook the empire. At the time it was 1/3rd of the world
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Жыл бұрын
It shook Britain's Lloyd George at a cabinet meeting quoted in Tom Jones book on him
@johnroche7541
@johnroche7541 Жыл бұрын
The Kilmichael Ambush must be taken in its proper context and viewed realistically in its Irish War of Independence setting. It was a major engagement by the standards of this conflict that led to 16 Auxiliaries and 1 Black & Tan deaths. Prior to this engagement the biggest loss of life for Crown Forces was the Rineen Ambush,Co.Clare in September 1920 where 6 RIC men were killed. Even British Prime Minister called the Kilmichael Ambush a "military operation". These were the Auxiliaries that were killed and hundreds of them had been decorated for bravery in WW1 including 3 VC holders. Nine Auxiliaries would be awarded for bravery in Ireland. They were seen as elite at the time. The Auxiliaries were the highest paid police officers in the world and one of the first prototype counter insurgency units formed. British PM David Lloyd George was shocked because due to the Kilmichael Ambush and the Bloody Sunday assassinations exactly a week earlier there was barricades erected leading into the streets of Downing Street. This demonstrates the impact including psychological this attack had on the British government. One must remember that not only is David Lloyd George the British PM but also the head of the British Empire. Also British PM David Lloyd George famously and prematurely announced on 8th November 1920 at the Guildhall banquet that the Crown Forces in Ireland had and I quote verbatim "murder by the throat". However let's look at what happened in Ireland by the end of November 1920 and see how the IRA emphatically demonstrated how wrong the British PM was. 1)The Bloody Sunday Assassnations on 21st November 2) The first major attack on British soil where portions of the Liverpool docks were burned down on the night of 27th November 3) The Kilmichael Ambush 4) 60 members of the Crown Forces were killed that month including 20 Auxiliaries( 18 of these were from "C" Coy where two Auxiliaries involved in intelligence were captured and executed by the IRA near Macroom and these were the first to be killed and the 16 killed at Kilmichael. Two Auxiliaries were killed on Bloody Sunday.) 5) November 1920 was the heaviest monthly death toll for Crown Forces in 1920 and one of the worst months for the entire conflict.
@JimMcCrudden-w6g
@JimMcCrudden-w6g Ай бұрын
@@seanohare5488 it shook them in Australia too. To this day they think of Irish as rebels.
@brownwarrior6867
@brownwarrior6867 9 ай бұрын
Routine Kills.
@MrLorenzovanmatterho
@MrLorenzovanmatterho Жыл бұрын
PATHETIC! An ambush that kills a unit which wouldn't qualify as even an understrength platoon by a force 4 times its' size. When you compare that to the B&Ts overwhelming victories at Craiguillamore House, Clonmult, McCartney's Quarry, the Customs House, Blackhall Place.
@genghisthegreat2034
@genghisthegreat2034 10 ай бұрын
You have some difficulties with arithmetic. Four times 17 killed is 68, and IRA Column numbers aren't even half that.
@MrLorenzovanmatterho
@MrLorenzovanmatterho 10 ай бұрын
@@genghisthegreat2034 Estimates vary and there is much myth making about it but my point holds true.
@Greetings_From_Cork
@Greetings_From_Cork 8 ай бұрын
You lost. Get over it.
@MrLorenzovanmatterho
@MrLorenzovanmatterho 8 ай бұрын
@@Greetings_From_Cork Britain won, get over it. The Anglo Irish Treaty gave Britain everything we wanted but Nationalists nothing more than the IPP would have got had they agreed to permanent partition. The security forces captured or killed 6 terrorists for every person the IRA murdered, the vast majority of Ireland was still firmly under Westminster's control for the entire conflict. More British soldiers in Ireland died from accidents and natural causes than were murdered by the IRA. When 2 sides come to the negotiating table and one side says "Sign it or else" and the other signs it and has a civil war over its' terms the side having the civil war is not the winner. Come on, it's 2024, it's the Shamrock Awakening, wake up!
@A_Maus_in_Da_Haus
@A_Maus_in_Da_Haus 8 ай бұрын
@@MrLorenzovanmatterho Look at the absolute state of the UK right now - this is not "winning". Had Ireland not broken away, it would have been dragged out of the EU against its will, just as the Six Counties and Scotland have been. So yes, in a very real sense the UK has lost, while Ireland has escaped the stupidity of Brexit.
@sandidavis820
@sandidavis820 Жыл бұрын
I was born in the wrong time, I should have been born during the time of the Irish War of Independence, I would have loved and been honored to fight with our Heroes. Davy, the way you teach makes me feel as though I am there with these brave men and women. Thank you, Davy
@Hilts931
@Hilts931 Жыл бұрын
heroes dont ambush
@sandidavis820
@sandidavis820 Жыл бұрын
@@Hilts931 yeah well the british did the same thing, and furthermore, they should have stayed out of Ireland. They tried to take over every country they could. They were without a morals and were known for the terrible things they did, like hurting or killing, even women and children, because to them it was fun. THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED IN THE AMBUSH!!!
@josephpostma1787
@josephpostma1787 Жыл бұрын
@@Hilts931 Why not?
@Hilts931
@Hilts931 Жыл бұрын
@@josephpostma1787 bitch move because you know you’d lose a proper fight.
@gerardmangan5870
@gerardmangan5870 Жыл бұрын
Driving into a packed stadium and shooting children is heroic so is it....
@horacerumpole9263
@horacerumpole9263 Жыл бұрын
Tim Parry 12. Johnathan Ball 3. Murdered by scum.
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Жыл бұрын
Not related to this whatsoever Ireland had a mandate by a democratic vote in the 1918 national election wanting independence freedom from devious greedy bloody Brits
@MartinBrennan-b8b
@MartinBrennan-b8b 11 ай бұрын
Yes and even after the ira had sent a warning to the british of where exactly the device was planted and how much explosive it contained, the police proceded to direct the public into the exact place where the device was planted in a litter bin directly in front of booth's pharmacy, strange that isn't it!.
@Godfather-oy2kw
@Godfather-oy2kw 10 ай бұрын
There was no mandate for 1916 was there? Furthermore what percentage of the vote did SF win in 1918? 49% - hardly an overwhelming majority is it? The fact is that the so called War of Independence was no more that the first civil war in Ireland followed by the second civil war when the IRA scum fell out with each other.
@corkboy4523
@corkboy4523 10 ай бұрын
What would you refer to the British soldiers that killed the two kids in the crowd at a football match?
@johnroche7541
@johnroche7541 10 ай бұрын
@@corkboy4523 What about the Auxiliaries killing 2 Catholic Clergymen and the Black & Tans also killed a priest. Paul Goggin was only 7 when fatally shot by the Crown Forces in Co.Cork in April 1921 and died a month later.
@bobtudbury8505
@bobtudbury8505 10 ай бұрын
ahh the cowards , the ira
@corkboy4523
@corkboy4523 10 ай бұрын
As opposed to the British forces that shot at players and the crowd at a football match?
@JohnKiernan-f8s
@JohnKiernan-f8s 7 ай бұрын
An undefeated army, can be called cowards, in any situation , think anyone knows that, 😂🇮🇪🇮🇪☘️☘️
@bobtudbury8505
@bobtudbury8505 7 ай бұрын
@@JohnKiernan-f8s army? Hiding behind kids and women when they wasn’t beating them, as i said cowards, never an army in the first place
@JimMcCrudden-w6g
@JimMcCrudden-w6g Ай бұрын
Seamus Robinson, Charlie Hurley, Dan Breen, Sean Treacy, McBride, McDonagh, cowards??
@bobtudbury8505
@bobtudbury8505 Ай бұрын
@@corkboy4523 as opposed to the ira popping up behind woman and kid rioters with guns then the crowd closes after firing , dirty tactics for dirty cowardly tactics
@kvdp3806
@kvdp3806 Жыл бұрын
Just finding ya here. One of yer shorts drifted into my feed, I'd consider it a parting gift from Sinead O'Conner. A fine channel you've got going on.
@mattyallen3396
@mattyallen3396 Жыл бұрын
Ireland should have been cleaned out and sent to the usa.
@josephthomas8318
@josephthomas8318 Жыл бұрын
That where ya send everyone you can't beat in a fight?
@brianmacc1934
@brianmacc1934 Жыл бұрын
Ur rite matty , biggest mistake u made : left too many of us alive Erin go bragh
@pato2200
@pato2200 Жыл бұрын
Yees tried that more than once.
@wonjubhoy
@wonjubhoy 8 ай бұрын
That sounds like a nazi talking about Jews.
@jimweights8908
@jimweights8908 9 ай бұрын
Lol - “shook the British empire”. No one heard of it other than some sad Anglophobes
@wonjubhoy
@wonjubhoy 9 ай бұрын
Britain agreed to leave most of Ireland the following year so it made its mark.
@dontmesswithcrows
@dontmesswithcrows 8 ай бұрын
It actually did shake the British Empire.
@jimweights8908
@jimweights8908 8 ай бұрын
@@dontmesswithcrows a few cowards shooting people in the back? No one heard of it
@JimMcCrudden-w6g
@JimMcCrudden-w6g Ай бұрын
@@jimweights8908 Lord, you must be raging!! Feel a bit sorry for you.
@jimweights8908
@jimweights8908 Ай бұрын
@@JimMcCrudden-w6g it is right to call me Lord.
@JohnKiernan-f8s
@JohnKiernan-f8s 8 ай бұрын
It’s nice how this should be explained, and it’s a pity people are not aware of the great man Tom Barry was, and most of all , the devils on earth the Black and Tans were , I sing this song with pride , the men from Tom Barry’s bold column, who conquered the red white and blue, probably my favourite song ever, I do get some grief however, as I’m in the UK , 😂😂♥️♥️🇮🇪🇮🇪☘️☘️👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@irishseven100
@irishseven100 10 ай бұрын
This is The Truth of The Irish and The American Irish en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish-American_Medal_of_Honor_recipients God bless The Irish.
@FintanMorriscd
@FintanMorriscd 8 ай бұрын
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