The American Western returns?! | Horizon: An American Saga Review!

[@kawedel]

Totally agree. I'm down for all four parts. So is my wife, who ordinarily is not a huge Western fan. We had a blast the next day talking about how much we loved it and trying to guess what might be ahead.

[@order42show]

Love to hear it! So excited to watch the next part.

[@gregpolutanovich1774]

@kawedel yess,,it takes time to tell a good story,,especially with several different stories going on..people have to be patient as you can't expect quick results with good stories with all the questions answered right away..The movie does end with wanting more..I could have sat there and watched another 3 hours

[@annebenn353]

Loved it tbe good the bad and the rest😂 cinemaphtography superb.❤

[@yourpal_austin]

So right off the bat I just have to say that it’s not “missing from the marketing” at all. It’s on every single poster and in every trailer. In every piece of press for the film the fact that it is a 4-part episodic series is talked about. Every poster for the film says “chapter 1 June 28th chapter 2 August 16th”. It’s been very clearly spelled out. That being said, this is a great review. You really understood the movie.

[@order42show]

But, people don’t pay attention! And from my experience, people SURELY don’t read. So, I guess what I was trying to do was just point that out for people who were curious but hadn’t seen anything about it. But thank you for the kind words!

[@clintoncampbell236]

Saw it Tuesday night with my girlfriend and my oldest son (9) I liked it my son liked it , said he was definitely down for part two opening day.

[@order42show]

Nice! I really hope that the word of mouth continues to spread!

[@DRanonDoctorANON69]

I really enjoyed this reviewer's take on Horizon. It's exactly what I wanted to hear. It's a 4-part series, where Costner appears more and more in each movie. It's a process, building over the four to achieve the entire vision. Don't judge too quickly, let this film wash over you. It's a slow burn and the finale will be grand, rest assured!

[@order42show]

Many thanks!

[@magicemperor2420]

Good review! I really dig your Alucard comparison (now I can’t un-see it), and now I wanna visit Utah! 😄 I watched this film with a friend. I enjoyed the movie, but methinks you and my friend liked it a little more than I did, which is cool. But even I have to say, that trailer in the end got both of us pumped, and he and I vowed on the spot to watch Chapter 2, come August! 😄

[@order42show]

Thanks! Yeah, you’re the first person to mention Alucard! 😁 I’m glad to hear that you liked it…and yeah, Utah is really really nice, so I highly recommend it!

[@FreedomKat]

Dude! Saw it today. I was enthralled with this movie!!! I can't wait for part 2! Loved the characters and scenery. I wish Jamie was in it more but saw that the motivation to move the story was the reason.

[@order42show]

Oh, you and me both - Jamie had such charisma that I just wanted more. But yeah, the movie really worked for me! That shot of Kevin on the horse at the end got me pumped!

[@ericmack001]

Your review was so positive that now I want to see the movie.

[@order42show]

Well, I certainly hope I haven’t oversold it! If you enjoy westerns and are comfortable with the fact that this is just a beginning, I think you’ll enjoy it.

[@mikejarvis6401]

I’m a Costner fan and a western fan and I loved every second of this movie. It flies by doesn’t seem 3 hrs at all. Kev doesn’t appear until an hour in but all the other characters are so compelling it doesn’t matter. Stunning movie and a fabulous score. Can’t wait for part 2!

[@order42show]

Yes! I keep thinking about it. Like a great book, almost - you want to keep reading! I’m really hoping that it finds its audience, because I agree that it’s brilliant.

[@farmgirlrebel1333]

I loved this...I'm all in and looking forward to part 2! Good advise: let the movie unfold.

[@order42show]

I’m really happy to hear that lots of people enjoyed it! Thanks!

[@jddrafts]

Loved it. I will definitely be going to see part two.

[@order42show]

I love to hear that!

[@rudygarcia8436]

1962 How the West was Won had many stories that came together in 3 hours. Many famous actors were in it: Gregory Peck, Debbie Reynolds, George Peppard, Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne, Eli Wallach, Harry Morgan, Karl Maldon

[@order42show]

True…but this story is bigger. There seems to be a lot still to come! I understand if many don’t have the patience for that. I’m eager to see if Costner can pull it off!

[@rudygarcia8436]

@@order42show , I agree but it would have been better to show more in the first part than to turn off the patron by showing less.

[@order42show]

I can see that…it really did feel like the end of a chapter to me. Once they’re all out it will feel different.

[@welles2002]

I agree with you 100 percent if you don’t go in understanding it’s essentially a miniseries you will miss the narrative . I loved it and can’t wait until part 2 . Oh and the theater I saw was basically empty. I’m a film nut and stay for credits when I turned around I was the only one in the theater.

[@order42show]

Yep, I think that’s why the critics are not reviewing it well - as a singular film, it doesn’t work like a traditional movie, but yeah, I’m excited for more! Sucks that your screening was like that (in a way, I love being by myself like that!) but I want this to do well, and that may mean it’s got a long road to profitability.

[@welles2002]

I still rank dances with wolves as one of the greatest film experiences ever for me . I’ve studied that film and still play the soundtrack today . I was wondering what Costner would do with a similar subject that had already been done so brilliantly in 1883 but quickly saw the differences. The use of amazing grace was also something special .

[@order42show]

It really seems like what he’s been building towards - I also like seeing his growth as a director. Hopefully part two lives up!

[@ChristineMatthews-v3g]

​@@order42showyes okey

[@DavidColucci-k7r]

I think you were referring to Jamie Campbell Bower's altercation with Kevin Costner. He was incredible. I have been trying to find a whole clip of that event but have not found it!! Also been looking for clips of Hayes Costner's role. Who was the boy on the hill during indian village massacre? Great production by Costner and I look forward to Saga 2...but give me scenes and actors names.

[@order42show]

I’m not sure who the boy was…but yes, I was referring to JCB! I just didn’t want someone who hasn’t seen it to be spoiled in any way! I’m really excited to see Part 2. What did you mean by “scenes and actor’s names”?

[@bravexheart7]

I thought this movie was incredible … performances and cinematography were incredible .. can’t wait for part 2

[@order42show]

Great to hear such good feedback from it. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@famousdex7327]

I thought it was pretty good,I'm definitely ready for part two

[@order42show]

Glad you enjoyed it! That part two reel got me hyped.

[@jadapandy]

Excellent movie. We loved it.

[@order42show]

So happy to hear that people are enjoying it! Fingers crossed the 2nd is as good!

[@rangerjim3872]

Great review. Agree that the western is a treat. The way I looked at it the main character is actually the old west.

[@order42show]

Not a bad way to look at it! I just found it really nice the way the story unfolds, and I felt at ease with Costner’s direction. Thanks for the kind words!

[@joejames3461]

I am thrilled to see more westerns coming out recently. I certainly hope we can get more as the superhero genre begins to fade. I’m very excited to see this one and the other one that Viggo Mortensen made recently. That three hour run time was a dealbreaker for me today though. I work HVAC and had gotten off a particularly rough on-call shift yesterday, so I decided to take the day off. I had it in my mind that I was going to go and see this movie, but by the time I was ready to go and by the ticket, I knew that I would be falling asleep halfway through. Which brings us back to a discussion we had on one of your other videos, a while back, they need to bring back the intermission for movies longer than two hours(or maybe just ones pushing past that 245 Mark) Anyway, great review! 👍🏼

[@order42show]

Yeah, an intermission would’ve been nice, and it made it worse that all of the trailers and commercials meant that the movie didn’t start until about 30 minutes after the “start” time. It’s going to be interesting to see how things play out for this - adult fare like this has been sort of problematic in recent years. I want to see Viggo’s movie, too!

[@pizzaman6784]

I really hope all four movies get to be made too, I really love epic, long, cinematic movies like this, and am looking forward to the day when I can order a pizza and marathon and get immersed in these movies.

[@order42show]

Yeah, I’m really hoping that it can be profitable for Warner to let Kevin keep making them. And he apparently put up $38M of his own money (out of a $100M budget) to make this one! 😬

[@derekchin6403]

Loved it! And I’m looking forward to the next chapters. If Chapter 2 was playing today I’d head right over to see it.

[@order42show]

Right there with you! The only thing is, I realized today that chapter 2 comes out the day Alien: Romulus releases, and I’m extremely excited for that one, too.

[@derekchin6403]

@@order42show​​⁠ That’s so funny; Chapter One came out the same day as A Quiet Place: Day One, which I was also looking forward to. So I ended up seeing Horizon yesterday and Day One today. I am stuffed with popcorn, haha

[@order42show]

Ah, yes! I still don’t think I’ve seen Quiet Place 2, so yeah, waiting on that. It’s actually a good thing to have multiple movies that you want to see come out around the same time…but I don’t see a Barbenheimer thing happening this year.

[@clintoncampbell236]

Same here. Part two , let’s go.

[@nunyabusiness3666]

F the haters.... Some people are gonna hate it just because it's Costner. Like he is some poster child for the right or something? It's a movie, and a damn good one at that.

[@order42show]

I really feel that many people that would enjoy this movie either are not accustomed to going to the theater anymore or don’t want to sit for three hours in the theater. I think it will find its audience, I just hope that it’s successful enough to allow him to finish them!

[@chrisdavern9482]

Was a great film I loved it . Chapter 1 kind of gives it away that there are more films to follow

[@order42show]

True, but even when it comes to seasons of a TV show, there’s still some resolution at the end, and I honestly think that most critics (and some viewers) don’t like the way this ended, where it just sort of…ends. I’m perfectly fine with however the story is told, and I feel like this is the “Act 1”, the introduction. Really glad you enjoyed it!

[@marcacee220]

James Russo was awesome as the store clerk

[@order42show]

Yes! Most people don’t know his name, but yeah…so many great character actors!

[@gregpolutanovich1774]

Its an excellent start to this epic series but you have to be patient and let the stories unfold and thats what chapter 2 is for and it seems thats where the action is too...i hope Kevin Costner will cast Clint Eastwood and Kim Coates in up coming chapters..Keep making em and the public will keep seeing em...dont understand the bad reviews as they just don't understand the premise of it all

[@order42show]

Yeah, I mean…it does feel like a movie made in the 70s/80s. Maybe the pace is what people don’t like. I’m curious how well it will do when it comes to streaming - since it’s a longer film, maybe people are turned off by that. Fingers crossed!

[@gregpolutanovich1774]

@order42show ..yess,seems like people like the quick cuts, with non stop in your face action loaded with CGI...NOW that is really boring!!

[@cindyhowell7033]

I saw it. Epic!

[@order42show]

I’m glad you enjoyed it! Actually…I’m just glad you saw it (didn’t do too well at the box office).

[@Ian-e2c]

I am a big western fan. enjoyed horizon wil be going to see again. but in a different light. 1st episode of a possible 4 episodes. being a member of cineworld i whatch it 1st on members night. now realised Costner was trying to introduce the players to give an insight for the story. it's not easy now i realise a story with a possible 12 hours running time to get all the intended story in 180m. looking forward to part. 2 in August having seen the trailer at the and of pt 1 i think you should rate a movie of this scale on the finished product. seeing a second time I will enjoy even more it's going to be epic.

[@order42show]

Well, I think that’s why a lot of critics didn’t really like the movie - it doesn’t really end with the typical wrap-up that most movies do. Knowing that was what I was in for, I was ready for it, and enjoyed it immensely. At this point, we’re guaranteed part 2 - beyond that is sort of up in the air, and it might depend on how both movies are received, so I’m actually kind of nervous! I want to see the whole story!

[@MatthewGurtner]

I don’t know the best way to message you so I will just do it here. First of all I just wanted to say I LOVE your channel and second I know you do fan edit reviews and I’ve done a couple interesting ones. The first is a cut of the hobbit trilogy (I know another one but hear me out) all the cuts I’ve seen are 3 and a half to 4 and a half hours and mine is even closer to the book and only 2hr 45 minutes in length and the other is a cleverly cut kind of different PG-13 cut of Deadpool (2016) i know you likely you won’t review it (it would be the coolest thing ever if you did though) but I would at least like to send you them i just don’t know where to do it. Either way awesome channel keep up the great work and let me know. 🙂

[@order42show]

I appreciate the kind words! My email is on my about page and my Twitter and Discord links are in every description. I did address fan-edit reviews on a recent video (that not many people watched!) Basically, I’ve been stepping away from reviews of those simply because they’re so subjective, and it’s become more promotional in nature.

[@MatthewGurtner]

@@order42showoh ok would you still watch it and let me know what you think?

[@order42show]

You can definitely send it to my email or message me on Twitter/X or Discord - I have some in the queue that I haven't watched yet. My recommendation though, is get in with some of the fan-edit communities out there, like on Reddit or on fanedit.org. Not only will you get feedback from some of the best editors out there, but there are people that are hungry for them!

[@MatthewGurtner]

@@order42show oh yeah I’ve been on Reddit for a couple years now and I’m on a different fan edit site briefly

[@tyronemcbg]

The story telling was very disjointed. Throughout the story I was constantly thinking "who is this...where is this...what is happening?" By the end, in retrospective, I could put it all together and was ready for the next film. It could have been edited better. Loved the cinematography though.

[@order42show]

I can actually see that. I just watched the movie again on Max, and I just found it a joy to watch on the second watch. It’s almost like curling up with a big sprawling book, where each chapter shows you a new POV. It’s not your typical movie, that’s for sure! I’m hoping for the best, and maybe it can find an audience.

[@31acruz]

Loved it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can't wait to see the next one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@order42show]

Actually - just heard that they delayed the release for part 2…so it’s not coming out on 8/16. 🙁

[@noworries272]

I want to see it. A little worried that part 1 isn't doing well and whether he finishes it out is concerning.

[@order42show]

Oh, I know! I’ve kept an eye on it, and yeah, I’m a bit worried. I’m wondering how much of that original budget transfers over to part two, because it appears they were shot at the same time…and hopefully it’s a hit when it hits streaming. Who knows?!

[@LukeLovesRose]

Horizon is a great and ambitious passion project. I think we should support movies like this. We should support the movie-going experience

[@order42show]

I’m there with you!

[@hanky6257]

Saw it & ❤ it.. can't wait for chapter 2

[@order42show]

Me, too! Really excited to see what's in store...just hope they make enough money to make all 4.

[@charliefitz1105]

Saw this today. It was great! Don't listen to the negatives!

[@order42show]

Oh, I’m not…but with this one, I really can understand why some don’t enjoy it, but man, just a beautifully made movie. And that part two reel at the end got me hyped to watch the next one!

[@charliefitz1105]

@@order42show I was making reference to other reviews. Your review is right in line with how I feel about this movie!

[@order42show]

Oh, I get it! 😁 You were talking to the people!

[@saltyp123]

My only thing is...they kind of need to put some text showing how much time has passed. It looks like that chick moved on pretty quick after her husband and son got killed. Like it feels like a few weeks later and she's already falling in love with that miltary dude.

[@order42show]

I can see that. Honestly...this is honestly the first time I thought about it. I'd have to watch it again to see, but I guess maybe it's because I figured the way that the soldiers were talking with her and her daughter that it felt like it had been a while.

[@saltyp123]

@@order42show I just watched it again over 2 nights.....It really doesn't feel like a time jump. They should've saved that for chapter 2.

[@order42show]

Hmm, yeah that could’ve worked. Still want to watch it again though!

[@YourOldBuddyBucho]

So, your second favourite epic saga movie you've seen this year after Rebel Moon?

[@order42show]

Umm…Zack wishes he could make a movie this good.

[@SpencerWilliams-h1s]

The movie is fantastic! So so good.

[@order42show]

Happy to hear you liked it!

[@SpencerWilliams-h1s]

@@order42show I just saw it again yesterday and took my wife. She’s all in. We are ready for the next movie. Also, upon second watch I noticed that the family in the wagon train that was taking water to the men working… their name is Kittridge. Sienna Miller’s character name is Kittridge. This series of movies if going to blow our socks off, it’s so darn good.

[@order42show]

Hope so! They’re bringing it home to on demand starting next Tuesday, so…unfortunately it’s just not finding a wide audience in the theater.

[@SpencerWilliams-h1s]

@@order42show it’s true about finding an audience. Pretty sure shawshake redemption had a hard time in the theatre too. Yet here we are, it’s probably a top 50 movie on everyone list. I think in time Horizon will be one of the all time westerns. Many people, especially younger have a hard time trying to watch a western. Mostly because the more recent ones have been so bad. Yet Yellowstone is a western and does well. Movie wise True Grit and 3:10 to Yuma were good. But most westerns are trash and 2007 and 2010 were a very long time ago. So, many young people have never seen a western that was good. But Horizon is beyond good. I know you don’t like the runtime. You don’t like the ending. But man, this is a powerful movie and if a person doesn’t feel something watching it they don’t have a heart.

[@order42show]

I feel that time will be kind to it. But…the movie industry is a business. It has to find that audience soon or we won’t see parts 3 and 4!

[@chrisplese9293]

Here's the thing that Kevin Costner and his movies and whatnot are for us that understand those kind of values because as we've seen the values and the standards and whatnot have fallen by the wayside and I wouldn't expect anyone younger than me to understand the value of this kind of movie or understand the value of Kevin Costner or understand the value of any of it because that doesn't exist anymore. So the fact that this has happened is leading all of us old schoolers indoor situation where we understand that this is the last of the epic movies to exist because the thing is people now and kids now or whatever for the last like what 20 years they don't understand what an epic movie is in fact they're not even used to movie theaters they're used to just sitting at home and watching it on their TV screen so I don't know how much longer movie theaters are actually going to exist because as we moved along and as we've taken a decrease in valleys and standards in our country and moved in all these people that don't understand any of thisthe American experience is dying and may already be dead so what we're seeing when it comes to box office for Horizon is the last dying breaths of America

[@order42show]

I may be naive for thinking this, but I feel that great art (which I believe this movie to be) will ALWAYS be appreciated by the ones who are open-minded enough to let it in. I’m not saying that you’re wrong - but I just think that we’re in sort of a downturn when it comes to movies in general, as most of the really popular movies are very surface-level with little actual depth. I think we’re due for sort of a renaissance, where the sort of “fluff” movies we’ve had over the last decade or so will give way to more challenging stories, sort of like the 70s, where there was suddenly this wave of more mature movies that hit the scene. At least…I HOPE that will happen!

[@31acruz]

Emagine theaters were boycotting the movie. First they would not show it on their movies display, you had to click on subsequent pages to find it, also when you went in, they kept the mood lights turned on the whole movie instead of deeming them down to darkness as usual. Its like they are going out of their way to make sure this movie doesn't make money.

[@order42show]

Sorry, I didn't see this comment come through! But...that may be an isolated case. I wouldn't consider it a really wide release - it was definitely playing on all the right markets, but even on opening day, there was only one screen showing at my local theater. And the lighting - that sounds isolated as well. Fact is, there wasn't a whole lot of buzz for this movie, and the trailer definitely didn't really win over the casual movie fan. Me? I hear "Kevin Costner directing a western", I'm in. But other people need more, like what's the story about? I can imagine it was really tough to sell this one.

[@sanangelo7926]

I like the movie but I know that it was part 1 of 4. I looked at it like a novel. Unfortunately the average movie watcher does not have the ability to watch a movie that is just setting up the remaining 3 movies. If this would have been setup as a made for tv mini series the complaints would not be happening and people would be raving about it.

[@order42show]

Well, true, but then the movie wouldn’t have the production value it has. Fact is, this was extremely risky across the board, and time will tell if it’s a success. Either way, I’m really enjoying it and I hope more people give it a chance!

[@sanangelo7926]

I agree the silver screen makes it much better. It’s just the average person I don’t think can understand it.

[@order42show]

Yeah, and that’s why I was trying to say early in my review (as many people as it might reach) that it’s just the first part of a larger story, and to just let things flow!

[@chrisplese9293]

Thank you so much I can't tell you how many countless Horizon reviews that I've listened to where these people don't seem to be cognizant of the fact that there's more movies coming. They all bitch about the same thing and that this first movie just doesn't seem to lead anywhere and it's really pissing me off because if you're going to do a review about a nuanced kind of movie like this and you have to have your act together and there's too many jerk offs doing the wrong thing when it comes to this movie.

[@order42show]

I don’t really consider myself to be a “real” critic, but it’s got to be tough these days. I feel that so many fall into the same bucket as some KZbinrs who follow the trends - they “pick a side” without really stopping to understand why some people have a viewpoint in the first place. All I can do is try to approach each movie as honestly as I can. This feels more like a novel in the way that it’s structured, and I really appreciate that!

[@cindyhowell7033]

❤

[@order42show]

😊

[@daveclark8337]

This movie was a convoluted mess. Half the time it was so cheesy, I felt like Lifetime or Hallmark movie. He had like 8 storylines going in one movie but we jumped into the middle of them all with no character development and then just as suddenly jumped right back out...for another hour. This is going to be the most nominated flick at the Razzies. Now I can see why it flopped and got cancelled.

[@order42show]

Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I really enjoyed it!

[@jabopro]

One of the worst movie experiences in recent memory for me. The editing was awful. The lack of a plot was just confusing. "Storylines" stretched so far apart that you forget who these characters were. Tried to be artsy and it was just artsy fartsy. What the fuck is with the ending just going into a montage of scenes from part 2 without any context. Just garbage.

[@order42show]

Wow, ok! I say it all the time, but it’s all subjective. Sorry you didn’t enjoy it!

[@randyshaw3534]

Lousy character development. Movie not good. Don't waste your time. Three hours you'll never get back

[@order42show]

I mean…that’s your opinion, and you’re welcome to it. I’d like more original, on-location movies, so I’m all for it!