The Anti-Semitism Argument with Avi Shlaim | Bigger Than Five

In the US and Europe, governments have warned about a rise in incidents targeting Jews following the attacks on Gaza. In the US, the Anti-Defamation League reported 193 anti-Jewish hate incidents after the crisis began.
And while lawmakers have spoken out against these acts, accusations of anti-semitism are becoming more widely used to target those who condemn human rights violations by the Israeli government. Here in the US, democrats have long said their criticisms of the Netanyahu government -which some progressives have described as an “apartheid state” -should not be labeled as anti-semitism.
This week, four American democratic lawmakers signed a letter to President Biden saying they “re-ject comments from Members of Congress accusing Israel of being an ‘apartheid state’ and commit-ting ‘act[s]’ of terrorism. These statements are antisemitic at their core and contribute to a climate that is hostile to many Jews.”
Many Israeli and Jewish scholars are speaking out against attempts to accuse those with legitimate criticisms of the Israeli government as being ‘anti-Semitic’.
One of those scholars is Avi Shlaim, professor emeritus of international relations at St Antony's College, Oxford University. He is also the author of The Iron Wall: Israel and the Arab World.
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[@salehamin1221]

“Most zionists don’t believe that god exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine” -llan Pappe

[@manishara6073]

😲😲😲😁

[@AbdulHamid-rp5ws]

Yes I am Arab Israeli Muslim and I will second that comment one third of Jewish Israelis are not religious

[@ddreamer789]

They are just using religion as part of politic to gain supporter

[@thealligator918]

He didn't promise Palestine. He promised caanan.

[@florin-titusniculescu5871]

official creed : God was the first jew, and his first and only commandment to us is that we must purge out everyone else off this land.

[@fuseplan1039]

Once Israel's best friend has now become it's worst enemy. The Camera...and it's new buddy the Internet.

[@wanismail293]

This is year 2021 Judaism is online with Islam but the cries is Zionist take over of Israelite with a policy of colonialism, apartheid regime,perpetual oppression and genocide and ethnic Cleansing with similarities to birth of America and Australia .

[@darkpheonix3066]

@@wanismail293 the birth of canada was also like that.

[@lazybastard6004]

Western countries ( 🇺🇸 🇨🇦 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 🇭🇲 🇳🇮 etc. ) are the most evil countries in the history. Colonialism, Slavery, Genocides of the Natives, Ethnic Cleansing, Stealing foreign lands. Even recent history has 44 western nations agree to invade Iraq in 2000s, killing millions of innocent muslims.

[@michelleg9943]

Once used to tell their lies (those weren't concentration camps or only "Jews"), it now exposes them.

[@toddtroymiyamoto5370]

My brothers youtube terminates my every channel first it let it go up until 10000 views then terminates it while letting others with the same content flourish i think i am targeted by youtube based on my identity i have leaved 1 star rating for youtube on google play for this with the message that it does favouritism i hope on you brothers that you will do the same Allah kher karega may Allah bless all of you.

[@simsim7935]

WOW. What an amazing and wise man. A man with dignity and guts to speak out like this. Why can’t men like him run for government offices or give advise to leaders. Thank you Dr.Shlaim for your explanation of the situation. I have been sharing this video with family and friends. Thank you TRT World for this great video.👍

[@funkycrackhead367]

No one: Israel: Anti-semitic, something something Hamas 😒

[@thealligator918]

No one? TRT has been bombarded with anti-semitic propoganda for a month now

[@Tae96]

The sane part of the world: Israel you are terror*sts Israel : B..But Hamas 😭

[@thealligator918]

@@Tae96 the terrorists are the ones that hold 4 elections in 2 years and the non-terrorists are the one that didn't launch elections for a generation. Makes sense

[@omersyed3585]

Israel will pay heavily for it's atrocities on Palestinians

[@omersyed3585]

@@thealligator918 So, holding elections frequently will now decide who is terrorist?? I don't know what books Zionists teach to their kids

[@annur3432]

How can someone be anti Semitic when the Palestinians are Semitic people?? Anti Apartheid, Anti Zionist are not synonymous. Thank you for creating awareness about this statement being used to describe the condemnation.

[@annur3432]

@sneksnekitsasnek Regardless of what they say it doesn’t take a scientist realize they were wrong, and anyone who thinks that needs a moral compass adjustment.

[@Rebelboy1984]

Anti semitic is only for jews, anti arab or arabophobia its the correct term

[@danielward7008]

It's a label used simply to shut down opposition to Zionist policy. Pure and simple.

[@chicochico9824]

Full respect for this gentleman for speaking the truth

[@andnowyouknow3363]

They are so desperate to sew people's mouths by resorting to false ad hominems. It's both sad and amusing at the same time. They truly are desperate 😂😂

[@lazybastard6004]

Western countries ( 🇺🇸 🇨🇦 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 🇭🇲 🇳🇮 etc. ) are the most evil countries in the history. Colonialism, Slavery, Genocides of the Natives, Ethnic Cleansing, Stealing foreign lands. Even recent history has 44 western nations agree to invade Iraq in 2000s, killing millions of innocent muslims.

[@toddtroymiyamoto5370]

My brothers youtube terminates my every channel first it let it go up until 10000 views then terminates it while letting others with the same content flourish i think i am targeted by youtube based on my identity i have leaved 1 star rating for youtube on google play for this with the message that it does favouritism i hope on you brothers that you will do the same Allah kher karega may Allah bless all of you.

[@AA-jg7xm]

They want to carry out a large scale war between Europe and Russia to forcefully fulfill their end times prophecies. Before that, of course, the want the Js to keave Europe..

[@attaullahkhan9971]

Thanks for showing the truth !

[@msj21]

islam is cancer muhamad is rapist

[@chraman169]

SPREAD THE BIGGER THAN FIVE MESSAGE

[@Mohimtule.]

Highly appreciate his nobility

[@tayrowell]

Thank you, Professor!

[@achtung001]

merci..great interview

[@hhhx3]

Thank you

[@lastunctives2095]

The response in a London area of Jews to the question of the warcrime bombing was very typical - They killed themselves !

[@lazybastard6004]

Western countries ( 🇺🇸 🇨🇦 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 🇭🇲 🇳🇮 etc. ) are the most evil countries in the history. Colonialism, Slavery, Genocides of the Natives, Ethnic Cleansing, Stealing foreign lands. Even recent history has 44 western nations agree to invade Iraq in 2000s, killing millions of innocent muslims.

[@chemistry4u_Gowhar]

Amazing interview...Eye opener for those who have eyes even can see but seems to be blind.

[@lutforrahaman7448]

People have understood the real facts regarding Israel confirmed by the Prof.though not without self contradictory observations he made during his interview.

[@samit7570]

Best Interview I have seen this Month!! Kudos to TRT World Team and their Guest! 👏👏👏

[@hhhx3]

About time

[@shehlak]

These people have no eye to see and no heart to see the cruelty to innocent people and children. The Muslim needs to wake up or the good humans must wake up and form a UN of thier own to stop the continuing evil and injustice. It's sad tho this happened to them too but they still can't see...

[@rubennasser6907]

Excellent explanation by an honest and clear scholar.

[@kateosmond1090]

I like how calm his voice and how articulates what entails Palestine and Israel.

[@yudhistirahayuatma]

It is just like labeling people condemning ISIS Islamophobes.

[@thomasbuxton2648]

This reporter is incredibly beautiful

[@aslamali8801]

When the symptom of the problem (Israel) seems to be the core issue, and the cancer (the five eyes alliance) is overlooked, and is treated as a companion by the "Muslim" states, therein lies the impossibility of curing the ailment.

[@thealligator918]

The problem is more than one, the problems are fatah and hamas. I laugh at you when you consider the secular party of "fatah" as muslim

[@mohammedbukar2310]

He has spoken the plain truth!

[@ihaq31-Islam-and-Physics]

Great documentary. Good lines of questioning and packed with information. Love TRT World.

[@edwardvalivonis23]

If you don't allow me to steal your house, you will be antisemitic - random Jewish guy

[@thealligator918]

What about the hamas official and his 5 shekel knives?

[@moisuomi]

Do you like Hitler? Simple question simple answer?

[@edwardvalivonis23]

@@moisuomi Hitler is dead, so I can't like him anymore

[@moisuomi]

@@edwardvalivonis23 Oh wow so you actually did like him 😳

[@moisuomi]

@@edwardvalivonis23 So you hate Jews then?

[@drbadaruddinbhutto6226]

Let's know Semitism first.

[@hhhx3]

❤️

[@MeleanDialogue]

The two are completely separate

[@swimwiththedolphins]

What can you say these days that some group is not going to call it phobia,racism or anti-semitic.

[@MeleanDialogue]

There is also the question of what is Judaism, a religion where I following the commandments? Or a kind of identity based culture

[@HussainFahmy]

*_May Allah deal with all the oppressors around the world._*

[@roghan9]

Allahuma ameen.

[@berootaroo2872]

Great sir 👏

[@castelodeossos3947]

Why always 'international' law? What about moral law? The law of the the Torah?

[@jameskaufmann765]

I was watching this thinking "How interesting that this interview was conducted two years ago." Though there are many true examples where past observations were voiced and are uncannily appropriate to the present, I eventually realized that "two years ago" had to be just a mistake.

[@jameskaufmann765]

Wait. Am I wrong?

[@Wanda5099]

Palestinians have the right to defend themselves !!!!

[@MeleanDialogue]

But that definition is obviously wrong.

[@Anaxzorax]

Too many interruoptions, let the man finish what he has to say

[@thealligator918]

It's not like they don't think alike. She can finish his sentance for him

[@Anaxzorax]

@@thealligator918 They share the same opinions but if you invite someone on a show for an interview, you should let them finish. Unless they're some politic figures telling bs, like israeli 'diplomats' spouting nonsense. Then its ok to interrupt and shut em up :)

[@raymondjazzopardi9504]

Recent events in universities have convincingly rubbished what the suppisedly erudite professor is saying.

[@nuhibrahim215]

shame on u netanyahu!

[@suaega2641]

Thanks it was great interview with professor. I also agreed antisemitism and islamophobia not acceptable since Jewish and Muslims living over the world. But it's open page to criticise the actions against humanitarian that caused destruction and lost of life in apartiet or dictatorship regime

[@SonGoku-hv5mz]

Wrong World!

[@thealligator918]

Not world, some part of it

[@jvcyt298]

The fact we must face is that Zionism has become fascism. To criticize the apartheid government of Israel is antizionism, not antisemitism. P.S., Palestinians are also a Semitic people.

[@Anna-xc9kj]

Allah bless you professor ameen.

[@mahirrahman7]

Anti semitism also includes Arabs including Ghida Fakhri the lady in this video who is Lebanese. All Arabs, Aramaic, Amharic, and Hebrew peoples are Semitic

[@sue3519]

deep pockets as someone said

[@paulorcaamaya2074]

Just saying the truth is labeled anti what ever

[@adamadnan6482]

Look people iam kushitic Not samatic it's old description of a tripe or some people Somatic are arab Jews and also amaras Tigris etc. But you can use if your benefits now we are nations no one has the right to use Kushict or somatic In favor of his or her beliefs or benefits right?!!! I think you understand my point 👍

[@user-nu3en1fh9r]

People aren’t antiJew people are anti-violence, and anti-bully

[@dobermanssant-rey6192]

It doesn’t matter who you are If you turn into a Nazi I will speak against your actions not your race

[@aadalmahgari8650]

Why is TRT live broadcasting not working?

[@nunah4271]

👍

[@dom3073]

1:18 TRT World uses Adobe Premiere for editing their videos. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[@cloudstrife3799]

What's better than Adobe Premiere?

[@dom3073]

@@cloudstrife3799 well theres final cut pro, Da Vinci, Sony Vegas. Idk if theyre better though..

[@driggera217]

wonder what webcam the presenters picture quality is so clear

[@MeleanDialogue]

Why do we shield Israel?

[@djedahconstantine8394]

petite leçon :la majorité des juifs a plus de 90 % ne sont pas des sémites POUR la simple raison qu'ils sont des juifs ashkénazes devenus sémites artificiellement en 1939 suite à une LOI vote par des politiques ALORS que la descendance sémitique est une question de geno anthropologie ( génétique pour faire simple ) les véritables sémites SONT les Arabes juifs les Arabes chrétiens d'Orient les Arabes musulmans ainsi que les africains de la cote est commee les ÉTHIOPIENS juifs originel qui pase idysh ni hébreuxebrew mais le paleo hébreu la langue de l'époque de Moïse les juifs ashkénazes ne sont que les derniers convertis au judaïsme ils ONT rien avoir avec la Palestine ni même avec le sémitique comme j'ai déjà dit il.est d'une supercherie de leurs part comme le pseudo retour du peuple juif ashkénazes qui N'A jamais jamais habités en Palestine car ils natif d'Europe mais pas de Palestine faire croire le contraire n'est qu'une vulgaire propagande pour les simples d'esprits mais les historiens connaissent la vérité sur L'HISTOIRE de la 2 guerres mondiales et les écrits de THÉODORE HERZEL qui SONT quasi sous censure pour des raisons politiques

[@encomunismo]

- I'll start by saying that ... - Anti-Semitic! Anti-Semitic! -😧

[@jfalk35]

See the AHRI definition. Works for most Jewish people.

[@celinesleiman6001]

Don't search for what anit-Samtizm means DO search for what Semitism means. the meaning is mutilated. recently google offer specific sites with tailored answers by time. They keep changing the real meaning.

[@quantumsneak1773]

Yes..it is Shemite, a person born of Shem. Semite word is fake word.

[@rathernot6660]

This is number one BS.... Khabib would say

[@snowmoon7385]

Blind hate s wrong...n attacking civilians is wrong...

[@johnl946]

Stole it from the ottomans, not the Palestinians

[@mahfilurdu697]

بھارت🇮🇳کے اکثر نجومی مودی جی کی کنڈلی دیکھ کر کہ رہے ہیں کہ مودی جی اگلا الیکشن جیت جائیں گے لیکن میرا اندازا کچھ مختلف ہے۔

[@jamillamohamed6145]

this term anti semetism is used wrongly, the Arabs are Semitic too, Palestinians are Semitic, Israel is white actually only mizrahi jews are Semitic, the rest are European

[@waqarghulam3548]

Why don’t you guys address the elephant in the room? Ask why is Israel allowed to do what it does? Why are the politicians afraid of them? Why why why

[@michelleg9943]

Money and power belongs to people we don't even know the names of. Their religion is Kabbalah, which comes from the Talmud. In other words, the god of the z10n1sts is Satan.

[@waqarghulam3548]

@@michelleg9943 yes I am aware. They have silenced the Christians, the atheists, the Arabs, but the will of the Palestinian people and Iran’s support to hamas and hezbollah is holding them back. And also pressure from Turkey Pakistan

[@NickyRikki]

Most of Europe lives with guilt of the holocaust. Also most politicians are also Christian evangelicals that believe in jewish homeland. Then you need to look at the money trail as well. There is alot for everyone involved to favour israel but maybe one day the people will speak and we can have peace in the Middle East. I was born in israel as well and raised there until 12. I do go back every year to visit my family and I do love israel very much. I also want peace with the Palestinians. In Haifa where my family all live ....they live and coexist together beautifully. I absolutely believe if it wasn't for the horrible governments controlling our lives the people would have no issue living side by side. I would love an israel/ palestine with no occupation and and open Gaza one day like it was in the past when I was little and my dad would take me to Gaza and and market. They have the best beach in all the coast as well. An israel with no soldiers just great inventors and engineers and a land that is home for all not for 1.

[@arafatul86]

Made in UK

[@usmanhar]

Abu Sulayim .... sorry, cant help it

[@fatihagirkan2262]

👍🇹🇷

[@quantumsneak1773]

They are NOT shemites

[@quantumsneak1773]

The Palestinians ARE.

[@bobbib5779]

give me a break what about what they are doing to the Palestinians they started it now what to cry the victim

[@thealligator918]

Shhh, don't speak truth on TRT

[@MrNick-og4qm]

Are you saying the Palestinians started it?

[@bobbib5779]

@@MrNick-og4qm no

[@abdulrahma.9123]

Move to Israel from in the middle East

[@Gabi-hv2xc]

Avi Shlaim is indeed sh LAIM

[@RahulSingh-hs5to]

Love Israel from india.

[@waqarghulam3548]

Oh there you are, been looking for you, the shameless creature that won’t go away

[@123DOWNUNDER890]

🇦🇿 ❤️ 🇮🇱 4 ever

[@lamegalectora]

You are framing this discussion wrongly. What is antisemitic is not the criticism of the state of Israel but the way it is sed to be aggressive towards all jews, whoever they are and wherever they are. What is antisemitic is the obsession with Israel a country that received condemnation and sanctions completely out of proportion to the extent and gravity of its misdoings in relation to other countries. This man has an ax to grind

[@user-kh2vo8zt6c]

Thank you

[@drbadaruddinbhutto6226]

Let's know Semitism first.

[@sohailshaikh283]

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