The Anycubic Wash & Cure Max. Watch BEFORE You Buy!

Not a review but the reasons this thing just doesn't meet my needs and I'm returning this Anycubic Wash and Cure Max before I've even assembled and used it.
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[@ElevatedSystems]

So the Anycubic return policy requires the buyer pay return shipping, which is $86 for me, so I guess I permently own the hot mess of a machine now.😢

[@plantyoga3910]

why don't you just use a smart plug + apple automation timer to shut off the machine automatically just before it starts the cure cycle? wouldn't this create your very own 'wash only' cycle?

[@michaelpoudrier5675]

@@plantyoga3910 If you have to go out of pocket and invent a new DIY approach to get a brand new peice of expensive, purpose-built tech to do the thing it was purpose-built to do... Theres a big problem. If that is ever the case, then the manufacturer faled at its one and only job and then lied about it to the consumer to take their money. The answer to that kind of shady business practice should never ever be: "The customer needs to go spend more money if they want the device they baught to do the things they were promised it would do when they bought it".

[@yeaglaceshorts546]

please tell me how to return? this machine is an absolute nightmare for me, and support has taken over 2 months to help at all.

[@03chrisv]

I mean there are technically 3 filters in this machine. There are two removable mesh filters at the bottom of the machine near the front side. There's also a third mesh filter attached to the siphon for the alcohol container. There's even a spare that comes with the machine. It's not meant to filter out uncured liquid resin, but any little cured or semi cured bits that come off during the washing process won't make it back into the alcohol container, and if by chance it does it certainly won't make it to the nozzles as theres a third filter. Lastly, you're supposed to flush out the machine by running water through the whole system every once in a while (like every 20 to 30 wash cycles). As long as you clean out the filters and flush the machine every so often it should last several years. As another poster mentioned, if you do a quick pre-wash dip before hand than the alcohol should stay cleaner much longer.

[@garryconnors8804]

"I didn't assemble it but I did take it apart." 😂 The perfect review from an engineer. 👍 Awsome stuff as always Bro!

[@printitpaintit.2436]

Well I print almost around the clock across multiple machines and I got sick of using the elegoo mercury and messing around with IPA so I i purchased the anycubic washer cure max and so far it's been absolutely BRILLIANT! First off you almost always add a full 5L off IPA to any wash station then drain it back into the bottle and I've NEVER in 6 years filterd my IPA. (The resin will slowly settle on the bottom of the containers and because they have HUGE openings you can simply remove the settled resin like a thick carpet) Second there is a small basket filter at the bottom of the machine that does capture any small bits of resin or broken supports. Around 4 times a day maybe more I would wash my build plates and vats at the sink with soap and water and the water went down the drain what else you going to do with it, collect it and refine it hell I'd need a 2000 gallon tank outside! Thirdly if you just want to wash your prints and not cure them you just wait 60s while the water drains out on the last wash stage then press the big button marked RESET and the machine STOPS it's cycle before curing the prints!! Maybe try putting it together next time and actually testing the machine properly for yourself.. 😊

[@ElevatedSystems]

Here’s a sneak peak at my long term review. I’ve been using it for 3 months now and it’s worse than I thought. First it can’t wash any viscous tough resins in one cycle, and it can’t clean hollow prints so it’s worthless for most of what I do. The IPA tank pulls from the bottom so after about couple dozen cycles the machine can’t pull IPA anymore due to the sediment in the tank. After just 2 cycles the mesh screens got clogged with cured resin so the tank wouldn’t drain anymore until I chipped the screen clean with a sewing needle. The motor isn’t powerful enough to spin the basket if you load it up with more than about 300g in prints. Last weekend I just discovered 2 of the 4 ball bearings on the bottom of the basket are fused in place with cured resin so they don’t spin at all. Standing and watching a machine so I can hit reset at the exact right time isn’t feasible for supposedly fully automated solution. And when you use the cure only cycle the drain pump still activates at the end of the cycle attempting to drain an already empty tank. Running the pump dry like that will quickly kill it. And finally after just 3 months 2 or 3 of the jets are just dribbling fluid, so I’ll have to tear the entire machine down to fix that.

[@printitpaintit.2436]

@@ElevatedSystems The basket turns fine once you do what anycubic recommended to me and that's remove the ball barings, I popped them out and the basket turns absolutely fine! I've washed prints that weigh over 500g like the life size gremlin torso I just washed and cured.. If you had pressed rest before the cure stage you would never gotten resin cured to the basket filter I print a hell of a lot because I print for companies and I've had no problems in 4 months.. The jets got blocked because you allowed the resin build up in that tank the first time I turned it on I thought hmm it draws from the bottom I better shorten the pipe, it took 4min to shorten by about 1cm stopping it drawing up particles and them getting stuck in the holes or jets.. Every wash station I have ever had I had to stop mid wash and turn my prints upside down to completely wash them inside and I just do the same with this one, you can also disable the magnet lid pretty easy so you can open it when you pause the wash cycle not stay locked! I suppose it's as much about personal preference and individual experiences because I've clearly not had the problem you have had and any modification I made were minor and took minutes.. I'd definitely recommend shorting to pip so it doesn't draw from the bottom or getting an extra tank for the IPA so you can alternate, once you have cleaned the jets you shouldn't have anymore the problems! 🤞

[@agentcee688]

I own this wash and cure machine, I bought it for $289 during its pre-order special and used a $10 off coupon. It's pretty good for that price but not for the MSRP of $389, that's a bit too steep for something that isn't near perfect. A stand alone wash only mode is definitely something I would have wanted to see and is probably it's one major flaw since most people tend to wash their prints before removing the supports. With this machine you have to remove the supports before you put your prints in it, otherwise you're going to cure your prints with the supports still attached. What I do is I have a separate 2 gallon bucket filled with IPA and I do a few quick dips of the build plate into it with the models still attached. In about 10 seconds 80% to 90% of the uncured resin has washed off. Now removing the suppprts from the models is an easy and less messy affair. After that I put the models into the machine and let the cycle run. The models come out perfectly clean and cured. Doing the quick 10 second dip into the IPA bucket has the added benefit of making the IPA in the wash and cure machine stay cleaner for much longer and will probably extend the life of the pumps and nozzles. So even if the machine had a standalone wash mode, I would probably still do the pre-wash IPA dip as the benefits outweighs the minor inconvenience of an extra step in the cleaning process.

[@ElevatedSystems]

Well it'd cost my $86 dollars to return it so I guess this'll be my solution.

[@agentcee688]

@ElevatedSystems Yeah it's not a perfect machine, I was definitely disappointed at first when I found out that there wasn't a standalone wash mode. However the IPA pre-wash dip method mostly makes up for it, and in hindsight understanding how the machine works I would do the pre-wash dip anyway even if it had a standalone wash mode in order to keep the machine's IPA and internal parts cleaner and lasting longer. I would still like to see a standalone wash mode as I like to have full control of the cleaning/curing process but my method makes it at least usable. I consider it an idiosyncrasy of the machine. It's such a beautiful looking machine, just sucks that it wasn't fully thought out. I originally just wanted to throw the build plate into the machine with prints still attached, but Anycubic had other plans lol. I'm glad I only paid $289 for it, I can't imagine paying full price.

[@plantyoga3910]

Couldn't you just use a smart plug + apple automation timer to shut off the machine automatically just before it starts the cure cycle? wouldn't this create your very own 'wash only' cycle? You'd have to push the start buttons simultaneously (machine + apple automation) but thats easy. Anyway, that is my plan with this thing.

[@printitpaintit.2436]

@@plantyoga3910 they can just hit rest after the final wash cycle or disable the magnets that seal the lid closed so that you can pause and then remove the prints.. I've always removed my supports before I wash the prints so automatically curing isn't a problem for me and I think it's a good machine especially at just £260 in the summer sales..

[@travismcgee9333]

Then, why does it say that there is a filter replacement in the "Included in the Box" list on the website? Why not put it all the way together before you pass judgment? The part may need to be installed into the bottle for the IPA. Maybe not take just a quick glance at the manual as well?

[@echo-hotel]

I’m also stuck with one. But I’m not too upset. I’ve already added a switch to turn off the UV lights. So I have a 15min wash cycle. Then I can flip the switch and just cure. Really simple. I’ve been working on multiple ways to recycle the fluids. You can have the waste water go back into the water thank. But there is a flush it does at the end and beginning that adds a bit more to the waste. So I was filing the water side up to about 3.5L and that gets you through about for washes. I now have it ready to toss out the original containers and use my old tubs of first and second stage cleaning of large panels. Which by the way is what this machine is good for, not miniatures. So the pumps are pretty strong. I’ve got them taped down for now testing. But Simply my old 30L tub of IPA is now cleaned up and ready for the Max’s first stage. They were nice enough to provide two hoses so one goes to one side of the tub to dump old IPA. I have a filter in the middle and the second hose goes to the other side. Its not perfect. But so far with a UV light on the dirty side my cheap filter is doing a great job. Now I have a second 40L tub that does the same thing for what is the water side. It’ll be IPA once I confirm the hoses can handle IPA. This isn’t much different than my orignal setup. Just a bit clearner and less fumes as the whole system will be mostly sealed. You can’t fully seal it for obvious reasons. I just need to get in a new hose for the “water” side and some hose clips (what are they called? Then ones that bite) anyway waiting on those. It looks like I can easily replace the pumps. There is a few pumps tested already that can work for filtering IPA. My system isn’t as great as some peoples. But it works and its what I have. I’ve got about 40kg going through this thing so far and its much cleaner than my old swirl ones. which none were big enough for large panels so I had the huge tubs for that. I’d like to see what you all can do with this basic idea. I’m very hopeful. I don’t mind a little DIY and fixing things. So far I think this will last a long while.

[@ryanknightley6257]

Interested in your setup, just received my machine and I somehow missed the lack of a wash only cycle. Can you detail how you added the switch for the lights?

[@sinansahin6423]

Hello I find your aproach very interesting just for the wash only cycle I found the way of puting a valve on the arrival of the water so you close it when you wanna wash it stops the auto with the error E11 process you take out your prints you break the sups and you put it back and you start the rest of the cycle by reopening the valve and "unpausing" the cycle. I would like to talk to you in private if you want :)

[@robertzapien5231]

Your comment inspired me to also add a switch to turn off the UV light.

[@piratepanda3131]

@@robertzapien5231I found the wire, what switch did you use?

[@piratepanda3131]

What switch did you use

[@speedbird737]

The machine is fantastic - so much easier to use than separate was and cure units. The reviewer has never even tried it. Yes you have to empty the water but thats fine - no contamination in my IPA tank - so its a fantastic purchase

[@ElevatedSystems]

I've used it multiple times now. It's horrible. The auto cycle can't fully wash viscous "tough" resins leaving a wet sticky film on all the parts. It can't wash the inside of hollow prints. Between the big deep basket and the single LED strip on just one side you have to reposition parts and run the cure cycle multiple times. Finally the risiduals from the tough resin I was using hardened in the little drain hole mesh screen making it useless. So basically it's a wash and cure that can't wash and is bad at curing.

[@speedbird737]

@@ElevatedSystems I'm having a different experience on many (including hollow) models I've printed on my Saturn 3 ultra - perhaps you had a defective unit - I don't need my large elegoo washing and cure stations any more - 1 unit replaces 2 - really really happy with it - the bucket is annoying but I will get another plastic container from anycubic so I can cycle the water back into that instead of the bucket!!! and throw the bucket away. Superb too that I don't have to get involved moving the washing models to the curing station as its all done in one. If you don't want your unit send it to me lol

[@stevedeitry4644]

The thumbnail Bro 😂

[@Jaynimates]

😂😂😂😂❤❤😂😂

[@henriklagercrantz]

Thanks for this review! This machine is not at all what I thought it was: A total wash, cure with filtering and reusing the IPA. Seems like regular wash and cure is still going to be my method.

[@speedbird737]

the machine is brilliant - how can you trust a review where the guy hasn't even tried to use it - thats the fail

[@atemoc]

A shame, the Framework videos overshadows such good content. Now, I love the Framework content you've put out, don't get me wrong, but I also really love basically everything else you've been putting out on this platform. I hope that KZbin's algorithm will adapt and push your videos to new viewers, and not just the ones that are in for the Framework content. Keep up the great work. And as to the video itself, the lack of such features (and that it cannot even be updated via software) for that amount of price is simply inexcusable from a company that simply sells better products already.

[@netnoob77]

The previous design actually works well. The only thing I'd probably ask for is different size build plate holders so that you can hang build plate of different sizes during the wash. The only innovation that would be appreciated is some sort of machine that can recycle the used IPA. That would save a lot of messy hassle of reclaiming used IPA (i.e. exposing it to UV, letting the sediment set, and then filtering out the cured debris).

[@SwissplWatches]

very well stated!!!!! thank you

[@MichaelAdams3D]

I got this machine and it has a separate wash cycle from the curing cycle and a filter with replacements in the box....did I get a different model? Maybe I was lucky and got it after an update. It's an amazing machine and I'm super happy and impressed with it.

[@ElevatedSystems]

Email me some pictures. I'd like to see the separate function controls, the filters, and where the filters go in the machine. [e-mail]

[@ashouaxiong1404]

​@@ElevatedSystemsdid he ever send you the pics of this?

[@ElevatedSystems]

@@ashouaxiong1404 No, I knew he wouldn't because the machine he described doesn't exist.

[@ashouaxiong1404]

@@ElevatedSystems haha I was hoping it would exist. Thanks for answering!

[@yeaglaceshorts546]

last summer, I put the machine away drained, and in a warm place. after i took it back out it didn't drain. Now that i have wasted two months trying to get ahold of anycubic, they sent me a new motor, which is constantly receiving an input of 12v, meaning it is always on, even if it isn't in a wash/drain/cure cycle. I am fairly sure it is something to do with the motherboard, but the company takes at least a week to get ahold of, and more if I want to get a part, and at this point, im considering just asking for a refund. I am very confused, as I seem to be the only person struggling with this issue. Is there anything I can do to fix these problems. Thank you

[@paullancaster297]

I'd recommend the Elegoo larger capacity wash n cure, it has separate wash and cure stations. I bought 2, giving a two stage wash. And two cure stations.

[@giomjava]

I agree with you, a huge letdown. I can't even START to have a chemical lab in my apartment, so any progress towards a self-contained solution for resin printing is welcome...

[@abemann3400]

most will def pour the bucket in the sink. bad bad bad

[@bdo667]

Fully agree with your review, unfortunatly we missed to send it back direct. Definitely by far the poorest product we ever purchased from anycubic. 1. It cleans with IPA, then with water, then it UV cures. One after the other. You can not change or interrupt this routine. The parts are not dry, when the curing starts. Curing water-wet parts leads to cracks and deformation. 2. The used water (5L) is conterminated with rest of resin/IPA. You will have 5L after every routine, which you dispose... where? 3. The turntable turns roughly and is strongly stuttering. Items drop and change their position in the basket. 4. The turntable does not turn at all, when you put items above 300g in it. 5. You will not realize, that the turntable is not turning while cleaning, as you can not look into the washer - it´s dark until the curing process starts. You leave your part aline, and it only cures from one side - and you will not even notice. Again, this will lead to broken and deformed prints. We indicated all these defects and failures three month after we purchased the washer. We even proposed to exchange it against the much cheaper wash&cure 3 plus, but ANYCUBIC refuses to help in any way.

[@G0DlikeTrojan]

Thank you for saving my money on this one :)) sir, you earned a follower

[@TheFarmoon]

I appreciated this review, especially as it was relatively negative. I went with the Plus instead so you saved me money and frustration.

[@alec1575]

Odd that it would be missing such a feature. I'm assuming they could easily add the wash only mode with just a software update

[@ElevatedSystems]

There is no way to do a firmware update on this machine. There is no data port of any kind or wifi. It's just a "dumb" machine that can't be updated.

[@alec1575]

​@@ElevatedSystemswell that is a huge oversite on their part

[@agentcee688]

​@ElevatedSystems It's probably hackable if youre willing to take it apart, but then again someone would need to take the time to do it.

[@msp5616]

I was about to purchase this... but not now

[@ilyabelomy8090]

You can buy a 22L to 30L ultrasonic cleaner for less than the price of this machine. The max would only be nice for large prints that are not hollow but the issue is that it cures the model while its still wet, This can leave residue on the parts.

[@williamowsley5019]

Just saw this review. Thank you for point out there isn't a wash only feature... Need something with a bigger bucket than the Wash and Cure Plus machine and was hoping this was it. Maybe it's something they can add later with a firmware upgrade. At that price point, and considering Anycubic isn't new to wash and cure machines, you'd of thought they would have put that feature in.

[@ElevatedSystems]

There is no way to upgrade the firmware. No USB or wifi.

[@NeoIsrafil]

Honestly, I'll add a cutoff switch for the lights if I need one... And I may well need one, but there just isn't another wash and cure big enough for the printer I just got.... The max m3 is just too huge to fit it's biggest size models in anything else. Lol... Aw well, good thing I'm crafty. Looking at it, and its internals, I may be buying some solenoids and adding on gallon buckets for drainage, a step that cycles the used resin through a UV light impregnated filtration section, then return to holding (probably gallon buckets for the liquids under my setup, maybe I can use the metal frame that protects the max m3 when it ships...lol 😅

[@rhcp3098]

I pointed the filter issue out when they put the first promo video out but no response

[@emjonkhart]

Hi i have i order it, and also not satisfied.! ive made some change, ive made a micro switch to turn te UV-light off so when i use auto mode ther will be no curing, What i have also done is the water drain hose connect to the water bottle i only dont use water i use ipa... now its on auto mode 1 time washing with ipa, then again with ipa (machine thinks water) then starts curing (but the lights dont light up course micro switch turned off) then at last it will wash again with ipa (machine thinks water) and the second and third time its washing with less contaimed ipa. then i have to clean Post prosessing and then i just only cure (swich on) in overall useless machine ive bought it course my wash and cure plus was broken... i think i take my looses and sale the wash an cure max en buy again an wash an cure plus (sale.. i think it will go in the trash bin)

[@ctibornovotny5591]

Thanks for saving me money.

[@veemonnguilmon]

Funny how they dont post my 1 star review for their product. The 1 single 5 star review has so many dislikes lol

[@bdo667]

same with me...

[@MichaelAdams3D]

Did I get a different machine? Mine seems to have the stuff he says it's missing...the bucket was kinda funny but still I've been stoked using it.

[@mrbidule33]

You just have to make your brain work for 2 seconds, and the solution is found... You just have to replace the water with isopropyl alcohol and make a hole in the cap of the second tank so that the system runs in a loop. And if you don't want the machine to cure while washing, just press cancel at 4.31min. it will empty the tank and it will be ready to operate again. I've been using it for 3 months and it works perfectly every day ;-)

[@0x777]

So... still no wash&cure system for the Anycubic 3DMax.

[@michaelpoudrier5675]

There's one more BIG issue you've missed in the video and no one else seems to be mentioning in the comments: You cannot run the 'Cure Only' cycle without the machine turning on the water drainage pump at the end of the cycle! Since the 'Cure Only' cycle doesn't pump liquid into the machine, you are running the pump while DRY every time you use it! Running a pump while dry is very commonly known as the fastest way to burn out a pump! Between the machine forcing unfiltered and dirty IPA through its nozzles (the machine pumps from the very bottom of the IPA reservoir, ensuring it takes the settled particulates with it), and the 'Cure Only' cycle forcing the drainage pump to run while dry, there is - very literally - no way to actually use the machines intended and limited functions without causing damage to it. I'm beginning to believe this machine was actually engineered to destroy itself as quickly as possible through its own intended use.

[@ElevatedSystems]

There are many more issues. I’m probably going to do a long term review considering I’ve been suffering through using this thing for several weeks now.

[@michaelpoudrier5675]

@@ElevatedSystems I hear that. I work at a community makerspace in the Sierra NV mountains and we got one of these about two weeks ago. After about a week and a half of troubleshooting what our resin prints workflow was going to look like, I realised I had basicly replaced all the functionalities of this machine with a DIY submersion washer and a separate DIY curing box. You know its bad when your attempts to troubleshoot a new system lead you to completely bypassing the expensive new tech all together.

[@walidkhier5640]

Who on earth doesn't include a wash only program???

[@ElevatedSystems]

Anycubic. 😜

[@stormalongdaz]

Anycubic are leaving me increasingly frustrated. This wash and cure machine is a poorly executed nice concept that seems to have been thrown together to provide more automation alongside the nifty new features of the M5S they are pushing. Unfortunately I own the Photon M3 premium which I got less than a year ago and they simply discontinued it and don't even stock the LCD screens for it anymore! Making my machine redundant now after less than one year of ownership. Anycubic epic fails all round these days, which is a real shame.

[@thresherhorn]

huge letdown. no one does a good wash and cure station i feel. They always muck up the most important parts. great review. saved me a bunch of money on an oversized lackluster product 👍

[@veemonnguilmon]

ugh i just got mine last week and my prints are always sticky. and i cant even up the time to wash longer! what the heck. Returning this useless thing

[@guidancebeats]

Before watching this I just set mine up and after , I am disappointed.. to be a max but have less volume inside then my standard Sasha nd cure is absurd . They need to add a plate that rotates on top of the cradle they added .

[@giomjava]

Hi CJ! Great video! Just a small small thing: "Voila" isn't pronounced "viola" -- it's somehting like vo-uh-luh

[@goobfilmcast4239]

I think he was being "funny" ......

[@giomjava]

@@goobfilmcast4239 ohh 🤦‍♂️ could be

[@ElevatedSystems]

lol It's actually vwa-la. It's just my stupid running joke of giving all foreign words a very American pronunciation.

[@TheRealOzWookiee]

@@ElevatedSystemsas an Aussie, I got it ;)

[@andrewsmith2468]

did you say viola.....

[@shantorama]

viola? 🎻?

[@livinunderthesun9]

Such a bummer! I am really excited though that they are putting this out there even if it is not fully what we desire. With the new M5s they have bee putting innovative products out there tot ry and solve many users issues and I am excited that they are working to improve the process for us even if they haven't hit it on the nose yet. I am sure they will come out with an improved version from all the feedback down the road!:)

[@melcrose]

I hope you said "VIOLA" ironically.

[@ElevatedSystems]

It was for my long-time viewers ;)

[@marwiesi]

wish i had seen your video before i ordered this piece of cr**. trying to send it back as well. totally useless, not working with hollowed prints, the curing function is a joke with ONE small light source coming only from ONE corner. running my print farm mostly on anycubic printers and they work great, but this thing is a total mess.

[@Jake-lc1lh]

My Mercury Wash & Cure works just fine from Elegoo. Shame that this massive unit is dead on arrival. Sorry for your $$ loss.

[@demonhogo]

This the type of video that really gives KZbinrs a bad name. It’s your opinion though, so at least there’s that

[@ElevatedSystems]

I’ve been using it for a year, because Anycubic wanted me to pay $90 to return it. It’s the absolute worst piece of maker tech I’ve ever purchased, and it just died this week. (Pump failed)

[@demonhogo]

@@ElevatedSystems I’m sure they offer warranty service, but I can understand being bitter about not being able to return something you don’t want

[@ElevatedSystems]

Warranty period on the pump is only 3 months.

[@demonhogo]

@@ElevatedSystems well shit…

[@3ddiy]

What a disaster... thanks for making this video.

[@TheFarmoon]

viohla!! hahaha kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2OYZGqCoNl6pK8si=wLAuP0q1WR9iL-GP&t=14

[@vvsandgaming4648]

The Anycubic Wash and Cure 2.0 is better

[@pauloramos1526]

just cancel the order

[@alanday5255]

WOW SO MUCH BLAH BLAH!!

[@JuanFmTech]

Maybe tone down the 3d printing content? It’s totally your choice i just don’t see them do too well

[@ElevatedSystems]

None of my content does well unless it's Framework. I unintentionally trapped my channel in a niche.

[@flyingpanhandle]

@@ElevatedSystems Still worth doing the videos. As you get bigger and bigger all the videos will do well. I dont even have a 3d printer and I watched this. It was well made and easy to follow.