The Art of the Board Wipe | The Command Zone 382 | Magic: The Gathering Commander EDH

[@40Found]

Last One Standing is my favorite underrated board wipe. It's only 3 mana, and the fact that it leaves 1 random thing alive means that if it fails, you get a great story out of it; that's the real victory.

[@PhazonOmega]

I keep forgetting about that one! I really aught to get one. It's already up to a few dollars!

[@haku6506]

I have it and I only cut it from my breya deck when we are allowing 20 proxies which is the norm for lgs commander tournaments here.

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

Wizards RnD after watching this episode: "So Green really needs a 3 cmc boardwipe!"

[@SSJKirik]

The old saying went: "Where red gets one thing, blue gets 3." Now the saying is "Where one color gets one thing, green gets it, too."

[@nooneknows3520]

Thanks for the tips. In my playgroup, I'm the guy who always has a boardwipe, but always used it when it's a little too late. I keep going "eh, it's not threatening enough."

[@40Found]

Spoken like a true control player. Dying with all the answers in hand.

[@spring5385]

I lost with a board wipe on top of my deck last time I played. So close.

[@ultamaflare]

I forced a board wipe with a Helkite igniter (boosted it a few times with 10 artifacts on the field and the opponent went Nope. He fogged so he didn’t die but yeah.

[@chrisgould101]

Im the guy that boardwipes myself

[@danieliussupienis9703]

That brief moment when you thoght jlk and jimmy will judge the art of all board wipes in mtg. LOL.🤣🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@maximusfatticus]

Abu wrath art

[@danieliussupienis9703]

@@maximusfatticus My personal favorites when talking about art -- Damnation; Day of Judgement( Player Reward Promo); Terminus; Devastation Tide

[@danieliussupienis9703]

@Nicholas Kane For some odd reason, I found og (Torment) Mutilate art funny.🤔🤣

[@gerardochavez1528]

My vote goes to Seb’s new version of Damnation

[@ykl1277]

Damnation wins. ChangeMyView

[@SWAT6809]

5:39 for humans who value their time

[@koelkast9]

Legend

[@WarlordKentax]

27:18 to skip the second ad break

[@PrimeEnLightenedShadow]

These comments never get enough love.

[@mikeyHustle]

Listening to the song at the beginning is always worth my time tbh

[@PidgeMidge]

personally, when looking at sorting boardwipes, i first sort between creature wipes, noncreature wipes, and both. from there, i use the terms "Specific" and "Nonspecific" a lot. eg; "Destroy all non-Dragon creatures" is specific creature, "Destroy all creatures" is nonspecific creature. "Destroy all artifacts" is specific noncreature, "Destroy all nonland permanents" is nonspecific both.

[@Flickstro]

I like the point of fitting the wipes to your deck's purpose. It's something I hadn't put that much thought into before and definitely something I'm keen to consider when I'm tuning things up.

[@walterkong5138]

Hey been playing magic for two years now and appreciate all the help josh and jimmy and command zone team! The one about the commander deck build template really helped me get over my “deck building writers block”. Anyways cheers thanks and have a good one

[@brennanclement8582]

Great video! I think the most important thing is trying to make sure that the board wipes are asymmetric as possible, and is usually worth any premium. A 4 mana wrath plus deploying a 5 drop is usually worse than a 9 mana board wipe where you don't lose anything. Definitely interested in a spot removal video!

[@diegofernandez8208]

After a period of what felt like non-stop set reviews, I'm really enjoying the return to more specific/nuanced topics! Great episode

[@nobodie9996]

I haven't played in so long and this channel always makes me miss it. And, makes me wish we had some of these back then. I'd love to play with some old decks from around Urza's Saga plus some of the cards that have come out since.

[@LukeColdFire]

One of the first decks I ever built was Zurgo with about 25 different boardwipes....it was in response to someone playing Krenko all the time and just having a bunch of goblins no one else felt like dealing with. Was it is the best option? Probably not. Was it funny the first time? 100%. That deck doesn't make appearances anymore but it is now in the back of my playgroups mind.

[@jamessheffield9091]

Mogg Infestation is quite a good asymmetrical creature board wipe - which also doubles as a way to win when you have Purphoros.

[@LaughingClimber]

I get it Jimmy, for the first month you won’t stop fidgeting with your ring lol! Congrats dude!

[@Prasmine]

Aww Man. No Ruinous Ultimatum. That one is my fave Board wipe. Great Video tho

[@buddatello]

And that mardu mythos

[@CUATROMORCE]

they always talk about mardu, boros and mono white being the least appreciated by wizards, and then don't include the best board wipe in mardu, while it is basically the only place to play ruinous ultimatum outside of 5 color decks like golos.

[@thesamuraiman]

Love seeing these shorts from old episodes I missed

[@ryanduffy45]

yes, do a targeted removal episode!

[@treybooher9608]

Me and my friend were just talking about board wipes yesterday. Then you guys put out a banger of a video about board wipes. Fate Reforged

[@ericsalisbury3583]

Cyclonic rift, toxic deluge and blasphemous act are the holy trinity of edh board wipes.

[@benpeterson4673]

I'm getting close to putting Pernicious Deed on the list.

[@TheGoodchildOne]

what do you mean? thse are the ONLY wraths in edh :P

[@paulmcclain642]

That is because Grixis rules. All Hail our Lord and Savior, Nicol Bolas!

[@TheGoodchildOne]

@@gysahlgemuse7208 i'm not a very creative person, so... no

[@joshuacarder9891]

I would honestly add Hour of Revelation - 3 mana (most of the time), destroy all nonland permanents.

[@jasonhart543]

My playgroup sees a lot of indestructible & hexproof, so I've been favoring exile & sacrifice boardwipes over destroy. But also been cutting my boardwipes down to 1-3 per deck. I'd rather lose a game than have those dead cards turn 1, or draw a game way out. Another thing to curb certain boardwipes feeling like auto-includes, is putting in only BWs that play to a deck's theme. So, Fumigate & Arcbond in my life gain/drain deck. Martial Coup in my token multiplier deck. Tragic Slip's my all-time fav though. The art, the lore text, the concept. so good.

[@dennyaaa]

Best EDH board wipes: 1. Cyclonic Rift, instant win condition, asymmetric and just OP. 2. Toxic Deluge, gets around indestructible for a low mana value. 3. Austere Command, so. much. versatility. 4. Blasphemous Act, will often be the cheapest board wipe you have access to, and it gets the job done. 5. Merciless Eviction, have fun getting what ever you choose back!

[@flusterfluff]

"Graveyard decks kind of scoff at board wipes" I used to run Nuclear Karador. Fourteen board wipes and a deck full of recursion. The deck's M.O. was to clear everything and rebuild faster than the opponents. The last game I ever played with it was, with the intention of getting someone in my group off of a very not-fun Nekusar deck in adherence with Rule 0, three hours long. I played Armageddon. Three times. I didn't play that deck after that, and I haven't played against a single Nekusar deck since. It was incredibly oppressive and un-fun, and I'm fortunately now in a place where I can play with people that I actually enjoy. Nuclear Karador is still something we occasionally joke about, but it's not together any more, and hopefully, I'll never /have/ to re-build it. But if someone decides that nobody's allowed to have fun, well. I know what to do.

[@davidm.corbin4643]

"A professional always has a plan to kill everyone they meet." °7

[@bobby45825]

So your friends decided to not play leyline of the void, rest in peace, Teferi's Protection, Boros charm, or Heroic Intervention? Or cards like Crucible of worlds? I feel like there's a LOT of ways to prepare for hyper linear decks sitting down at a table that you expect to see. When I buddy of mine only had a mono blue deck, you bet your ass I ran boil.

[@flusterfluff]

@@bobby45825 Over half those cards didn't exist at the time. I bet you're fun at parties. Have a nice day.

[@bobby45825]

@@flusterfluff I am actually. I help the people getting buried from YOUR playstyle and teach them how to counter it.

[@Goscalyon]

I think what's important about the artifacts with destruction on them is the fact that while they are on the battlefield its a threat and people will try and play around it. So even though you haven't activated you have already impacted people's play patterns.

[@dragoonbis]

2:29 that happy face of Josh opening his cards is priceless.

[@cypher40k]

To the editor/s. At around 7mins when they gesture the board wipe and the background changed to burning city. That was slick.

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

decree of pain used to be my favorite... I put it in every black deck. I rarely use it now, realizing just how many solid boardwipes black has. Reprints on toxic deluge and now (finally) damnation has helped, too. All is dust is also one of my favorites, especially for green and simic decks. Boardwipes that bounce are good, but I still want some ways to better deal with problematic permanents and get around indestructable

[@hiddenleaf414]

In our playgroup one of our friends has an Oloro deck with 26 board wipes. I built a mono blue Kefnet the Mindful control/voltron deck for the indestructible and card draw engine.

[@SWAT6809]

Toxic Deluge "not Balanced for commander" has its first printing in cmndr 13

[@damo9961]

In the casual format these guys play Damnation is strictly better.

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

@@damo9961 nope, doesn't get around indestructable so not strictly better

[@cezaramaral3943]

​@@damo9961 Damnation does the same-ish, doesn't kill indestructible creatures but more importantly costs 1 black mana more and I would rather pay x life than pay one more black mana.

[@shamtactics4712]

Cyclonic rift effectively shifts the turn order

[@cezaramaral3943]

@@shamtactics4712 How do you mean?

[@stephenhurley1033]

In some of my decks I include fog effects instead of board wipes (same sort of numbers others have of boardwipes) and they are cheaper and can have political pull if you announced it prior. Different decks have different needs of course but it keeps the threat in which may hit my opponents, I just need to win while they are tapped out or find my alternate wincon.

[@xgxwills2857]

Blasphemous Act is my all time favorite board wipe. There’s just something so satisfying about destroying everything for 1 red mana. Toxic Deluge comes in a close second just for being efficient too.

[@Russian_engineer_bmstu]

1 mana not killing gods, and really bad creatures

[@chibichanga1849]

23:42 This is a weird point; Toxic Deluge was first printed into Commander 2013, so presumably it *was* designed to be played in commander . . .

[@thumbwrestler12]

I sorta want to make a board wipe tribal deck now. The better ones are if it say oppents and do hit your board.

[@aortega]

We, indeed, know EVERYTHING about you guys-all the way down to the brand of underwear y’all buy … MeUndies!!

[@brick-e-boys4718]

Alright... That is really clever and funny.

[@davidcardoso3525]

First Rare I pulled was from a Revised Booster & was a Wrath of God. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for boardwipes.

[@zoopdoop_games]

what JLK has taught me today is to run 40 lands 59 wipes and Child of Alara as the commander

[@thewildcard600]

Sliver Hivelord

[@Galbertao]

Abandon the social contract. Play decree of annihilation

[@josephwaltzer7497]

don't play it, cycle it. Much more fun

[@goelandz878]

Blue has effect that get rid of stuff. Floodgate is weak, but does exist. Fade away is generally really brutal in commander. Black has now multiple exile effect on boardwipe such Extinction Event and Nightmare Unmaking. Red has also different type of board wipe. They have destroy like descent of the dragons, Mogg Infestation and Puppet's Verdict. They also have -X thoughness in the form of Flowstone slide. They also have Lose indestructible effect such as Hour of Devastation.

[@Anew522]

56:38. That's a great idea, but when no one is worried like Josh was during the Time Spiral Remastered game, it could have an effect of no one second guessing what Cassius was doing.

[@orrfannut9527]

I'm still new to magic but my first night playing we started our last game of the night at 12:30 and it didn't end until 3:30! My one friend had 6 board wipes in his deck and kept playing them as everyone was getting back into a good position! Apparently a few months prior our play group had a talk about 2 wipes max and he didn't fix that deck before playing it. I still had lots of fun learning the game up until then but that almost turned me off the game. I'm glad I kept with it though it's incredibly fun

[@SilverSpectre266]

I'm still new to MTG as far as card info goes so I was REALLY curious what Green was because I've never seen a green board wipe before. If Green ever got a proper board wipe I'd imagine itd be something like "Destroy all non land permanents and for each permanent destroyed this way that player searches their library for a basic land and puts it on the battlefield tapped." Or something like that. Where it cleanses the land and nature regrows in its place.

[@TrueTgirl]

What's everyone's favorite wipes in each color? For me, in WUBRG order, it goes: Austere Command, Evacuation, Dead of Winter, Blasphemous Act, and I have never cast a green one. Oh and for multicolor it's Ruinous Ultimatum.

[@40Found]

Apex Altisaur is my favorite in green. It's not exactly a board wipe, but might as well be in my Roon deck.

[@nik700]

For red boardwipes: Hour of Devastation. Pretty cheap and gets around indestructible

[@psy_p]

but not around 6 thoughness unfortunately.

[@nik700]

@@psy_p Yeah, but most boardwipes in red are expensive cmc-wise, I like having a low cost option

[@snakeman830]

@@nik700 I find Chain Reaction to be a hugely underrated board wipe. It's rare you find a situation where it's not killing every creature for just 4 mana.

[@SWNJim]

Conditional/Unconditional and Symmetrical/Asymmetrical are a good start, but a category (which does somewhat overlap but should be its own) is resistant/non-resistant. Right now there’s a number of ways to get around most board wipes: Destroy - Indestructible and regeneration (it’s not used often, but still a thing) Damage - see Destroy; damage prevention Sacrifice - Angel of Jubilation or Assault Suit -1/-1 - anything that can temporarily boost toughness Currently, nothing resists exile, bounce, or being tucked. When you combine the non-resistant, unconditional, and often asymmetrical nature, bounce is extremely powerful. It is something that I think WotC needs to address using future mechanics.

[@tsuki7064]

I haven't completely finished the video so sorry in advance if you talked about this but the topic seems to be moving away from nev's disk so I wanted to point out that if you somehow give nev's disk indestructible, you can use it every turn since unlike other artifact board wipes, you dont need to sacrifice it to use it. which was the main idea in my first ever commander deck avacyn. yes it was a rude deck

[@chrismarlow9585]

Great topic! I'm glad you covered the use of "slowing down opponents" with an early board wipe. Definitely an underrated use. My favourite for that is hour of revelation... a brutal 3CMC mono-white board wipe for all nonland permanents you can slam as soon as the board has 10 permanents. I wish when talking about how the colours use board wipes you could've mentioned white using them on top of board protection spells/effects to turn any "destroy all" into a one-sided effect. That, plus white's flexibility in board wipes for various scenarios or hitting any permanent you like makes it the best at board wipes I think... one of the few things it does best in commander! Sadly though the best two are both in blue: cyclonic rift and ixodron (both get around practically all forms of protection).

[@stephenhurley1033]

Im the guy with all the game changing enchantments (group hug but actrully out to win in a political way). My 2 board wipes in that deck are decent of dragons (down side is it targets but also an upside due to its drawback of making a 4/4 for each of your mates creatures). Its amazing how I can offer my friend a vague explination about how theycan take out our mutual opponent and not understanding the offer I blow up their board and they cant attack me because of my many enchantments. The other is single combat which I think players undervalue. As a deck who has 15 creatures and wants more enchantments playing it is usually better then letting people go crazy, I choose my best creature to stay and this isnt destroying my opponents stuff, its sacrifice! Lastly the draw back for boardwipes is normally playing your stuff last but until my next turn players cant cast planeswalkers or creatures... My meta has few planeswalkers so I read it like its just creatures usually, it would be relivent in other metas I am sure. Both really suit that deck ☺️

[@andrewsparkes8829]

Josh - I don't think Chain of Vapor will work as you think it does in Orvar. When you sac a land to copy the spell, you are not casting the copy, so Orvar will not trigger again as its token-copy-making ability is a cast trigger.

[@M3phobic]

I think he knows that. Pretty sure he is just running it because it is a 1 drop that targets any permanent, you can sac lands to save multiple things on your board from a board wipe if needed and it can be used on the opponents cards if needed. Just a really versatile 1 drop that Orvar can run

[@SovereignwindVODs]

The comment they made about some decks just plowing right through a board wipe reminded me of this game I played against a tasigur deck with my windgrace deck. This guys deck was designed to wipe the board over and over and over again until he found a win con. After one wipe, I managed to cast praetors council and get my whole graveyard back. And then I deployed enough to make him pop his next board wipe right away. And the same the next turn. And then a third time before I finally ran out of gas again. And the other 3 people in this FIVE PLAYER GAME were doing jack shit just waiting to see what would happen and not committing anything to the board or stopping the tasigur deck. Tasigur won that game btw.

[@erikohman2294]

Congrats Jimmy! Nice to have you back.

[@thyronebennett1170]

I have a prismatic bridge list with an incarnation (the whole cycle shuffles into your library when they hit the yard) so i run a butt tone of creature board wipes.

[@zoeperrone5706]

Im learning wipeout on guitar this week and this intro made my day lol

[@mitchelschafer1347]

I llay perilous vault & oblivion stone in my Ashaya deck because they're asymmetrical catch-alls in my deck. Also, It's weird how they mentioned in garruk's wake but not ruinous ultimatum (the best boardwipe)

[@therealax6]

Ruinous Ultimatum is amazing, but the casting cost is just horrible. RRWWWBB, if my memory doesn't fail me?

[@Eldrad235]

Congrats Jimmy!

[@SteakOSaurier]

Great video! "All is Dust" is not fetchable with artifact fetch as it does not count as an artifact, right?

[@SilverKarlov]

I think pernicious deed is symmetrical but conditional. It’s just that you can set the condition based on the mana you put into it. It’s conditional in the same way as austere command.

[@jonlamoreaux1889]

I think for removal over all, blue is best in commander. They can board bounce a ton of ways, counterspells, targeted exile effects, and very mana efficient nonland permanent bounces. They even have land destruction and bounce lol

[@chrismarlow9585]

I think as they were talking through their outline in the video they realised they didn't do a great job of categorising them. Creature - noncreature - all General use - benefits from synergy ^ Splitting them under those 6 categories (one of the three, then one of the two) basically splits them all pretty nicely. You can split "saves commander" out from the synergy section if you want. Once split like that it's easy to first look through the synergy bits and see if there are any which suit your deck well. Once picking out any that do, you fill any gaps in what you want from board wipes with the top general use ones. You can easily put into practice what they say about using general use board wipes which hurt you less simply by your deck construction (lacking a certain card type, yes/no graveyard stuff).

[@jacobjensen7704]

One notable exclusion from white board wipe options- Winds of Abandon. Another thing that wasn't discussed a ton with white board wipes- versatility. White board wipes are second to none when it comes to versatility.

[@BioDrummerBrian]

A spot removal show would be AMAZING!!! Add a top 5 segment where you pick your top 5 spot removal cards for a WUBRG deck if all else is equal!

[@justinproco8042]

Fire Covenant is an underrated board wipe in Rakdos. You can save all of your creatures and just take out the couple of problematic ones. It's like a more flexible Toxic Deluge.

[@tacothursdays6546]

I'll add board wipes are really good for forcing opponents to use their mana and force their hand. If I wrath of god, what's everyone's first thing they do on their turn? Play their land, recast commander, play more creatures to rebuild. This makes it easier to draw out their resources and maybe even have them tapped out when I go to do something really cool.

[@ella6547]

Conditional - There is a condition to the effect BEYOND card type OR a limitation to the effect. (destroy all BLUE creatures, bury nontoken creatures, destroy everything CMC 4 or less. Unconditional - It has no limitation except card type - wrath of god, pernicious deed, Nevin's disk etc. Note that nonland would qualify as a condition, aka cyclonic rift, BECAUSE turning all your creatures into lands is a way to avoid it.

[@DKforever24]

Them: You cant make Cyclonic Rift Symmetrical. Me, an Intellectual: Hive Mind

[@paulmcclain642]

Second favorite board wipe: Obliterate. Get some counters on your Marchesa TBR creatures and cast it for the lolz! Favorite: Yawgmoth, Thran Physician ... my soul may be unredeemable

[@thetux459]

I feel like a 2x2 categorization was perhaps insufficient. I think a 3x3 categorization with "cost-conditional" (for cards which require additional resource cost to be paid for activation after casting, but not don't otherwise require other cards or effects to act as setup) and "varaiable symmetry" (for both cards that have either look at features beyond simply card type [power, CMC, etc] and any cards that may have effects that would be changed from symmetrical to asymmetrical or vice-versa just via an additional cost or condition on the card itself) would resolve the issues. Wrath of God: Unconditional Symmetrical Pernicious Deed: Cost-conditional (requires extra input after casting) varaiable symmetry (cares about CMC) Dictate of Erebos: Conditional Asymmetric

[@rachelmcrachel6589]

Maaan Apocalypse is one of my faaavorite cards. I love it when people have to take a second to read it lmao

[@joaocisne556]

this actually happened to me before: my last opponent had 6 mana open, he cast a nicol bolas the defiler, and left 2 mana open, one red and one blue, and red and blue elemental blasts on hoe hand ans his last 2 cards on his hand, and I had Vedalken Orrey and Pearl medallion on the field on my field, then I counter the dragon with lapse of certenty, the I cast Arrmagedon, Planar cleansing and Teferi's protection, he rage quited after that

[@joaocisne556]

to me, mass Land destruction is Okay, as part of the finisher, I was going to end them on my turn with my Ishai (she and Akiri were my commanders)

[@mrpobogames]

Mass land destruction is really boring, basically either ends or resets the game

[@joaocisne556]

@@mrpobogames that is the ideia, a rule on the play group is to only use mass land destruction as part of the finisher

[@TheVargaszm]

@@mrpobogames "winning is boring" My kinnan deck wipes lands and people eventually decide that if I have 40 Mana and they have 0, I win. Or if I slam a land equilibrium and bounce all the lands,people realize they won't win if they literally can't put lands into play.

[@mrpobogames]

@@TheVargaszm yeah, to play against tuat isnt fun to have all of your lands blown up and basically start from turn 1 again.

[@dcboi5805]

Blood On The Snow is my new favorite wiper for standard!

[@justinayran]

I run a budget Child of Alara Voltron deck. Playing my commander, and then dropping a High Market, allows me to dictate terms, making my opponents hit each other first and letting me pick out the stragglers later. I just make it very clear that all I want to do is attack with my commander.

[@argentumgaming4056]

River's Rebuke is probably my favorite one

[@Joshuad369]

A friend and I found a surprising board wipe with my red deck vs her changeling deck. Since changelings are concidered all creature types, Siege Dragon's first affect: When Siege Dragon enters the battlefield, destroy all Walls an opponent controls. And all she had were Shapeshifters/Changelings

[@serafimb2319]

Just letting you know that if you were to upload deck techs of some of your personal private decks every now and then, i would enjoy it! Even if it's older ones. Always love to see those

[@harrisonheppelmann7938]

Red boardwipes are not too mean. Obliterate and jokelhops should see play, especially in red-inclusive enchantment decks. If people are going to continually optimize their decks and push power levels, they can deal with the big kid cards. Punish the ramp

[@TrueTgirl]

Refreshing to hear about one of white's strengths. I will say something super good for white having such variety: you can get cards that do what you need and not be paying upwards of 20 or 30 bucks for things like toxic and rift or ridiculous amounts of mana for what's monetarily cheaper. As a devoted white mage definitely the thing I miss first in other colors are the sheer variety and affordability (in mana and money) of wraths.

[@NateTmi]

My Fav would be "doomskar" if u foretell it u can not only keep it away from discard spells but it will only cost 3 mana when u need it. I can't think of a better Board Wipe.

[@slifer867]

I have won many games from behind by playing a board wipe. My playgroup has 2 sliver decks so sacrifice/exile board wipes are bombs. Living death is a favorite of mine.

[@roose9444]

Yes please make a single target removal episode! I'm already pretty confident in evaluating removal spells in limited, but struggle in commander. Maybe you could explain the differences?

[@Dalenthas]

My favorite green board wipe is Nactl War Pride. Or, you know, player removal.

[@VincentWolfeye]

Nice episode. Yeah do a targeted removal episode as well :). It would have been nice to show more examples of fringe boardwhipes or so. Like the thorn mammoth in a green deck or all is dust in a tergrid deck and so on. Really I'm sort of nitpicking. All in all a good episode 😊👍

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

Speaking of a graveyard deck really loving boardwipes... I was playing an orzhov aristocrats deck a couple months ago. I had about 2 creatures that hit everybody when a creature of mine dies, about 8 creatures total I think, and a Teysa Karlov on the board. The next turn I drew a Cleansing Nova. I mean, I had to play it. Teysa was bounced in response, but I HAD to do it. At that point, it nearly would have won. I'm pretty sure I had some more pingers in my hand and I would have still had a couple creatures that made tokens upon death...which would have made multiples. Good topic!

[@hpdre7437]

I feel this is the most opportune time for me to ask Jimmy to make a deck I have titled "Jimmy's Lament." Mono-White stax with an abundance of board wipes. This is a reference to an early episode of Command Zone, where Jimmy mused on what sort of deck a certain historical villain would play. I tried my hand at the idea, but I admot not not being that great of a deckbuilder and would like to see the man who gave me the idea have a take on it..

[@tomhenson2189]

What about WASH OUT!!? One of the best board wipes ever!!!😱🤬😭😁👍✌️ The first three emojis the first three stages of grief and the last three emojis is after me playing washout

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

it may not get rid of everything on the board, but if correctly played it is fantastic.

[@nav6098]

I like how you put “not an artifact” on ugin but not on all is dust

[@Redleadhead]

A board wipe paired with Faith's Reward or Cosmic Intervention has won me several games, plus it feels amazing 😂

[@Lowelo860]

Yeah I do this alot with selfless spirit and hour of revolation it just ends people's careers

[@aaronpyrez1573]

I’m rewatching this to brush up on board wipe knowledge, and I feel like WotC saw this video and went “Oh, White doesn’t have the best board wipes? Well, here’s a White Blasphemous Act and a mass sacrifice card in back to back sets.”

[@JonathanHecht]

when i target my feather with a *chandra's ignition* or a *fell the mighty* i enjoy the slow realization on my opponent's faces

[@misterman5721]

This was great, thank you. Please do a follow up with single target removal. It would be extremely educational for me. I'm still somewhat new to the format and I am slowly amassing my toolbox.

[@renatoleal6894]

blue is definitely the best, because: you only need one cyc rift and the tutors... oh, and them you have recursing effects... so you can do it all the time only my oppinion ;) love blue

[@Naustrawarlock]

in Casual EDH, White is maybe the strongest color... my playgroup dont play with infite combo, so a board wipe is often the solution. Also we have multiple deck so we dont have (read want) 1 Cyclonic rift in each blue deck.

[@Philson]

No way. Definitely need to run more Board Wipes.

[@cliffsharp1771]

I'm kinda glad you guys didn't mention Winds of Abandon, cause I really don't want it to go up in price...but it is honestly the best creature based board wipe in the game. 6 Mana unconditional asymmetrical exile all creatures for (4)(w)(w)....yes please!

[@erikohman2294]

I play an attack-centered deck. It runs Ondu Inversion and Aligned Hedron Network. Not amazing in isolation, but it works fair with the deck.

[@Hitzel]

Board wipes have kinda left my local meta. They aren't often good enough for our competitive pods and they aren't really fun in the really low power stuff, so they really have become rare (outside of like the obvious cyclonic rift or toxic deluge in a cEDH deck or whatever). People usually say that board wipes are a necessity for preventing clogged up boardstates, but our low power stuff is typically pretty stompy and proactive about punching through with evasion etc so it's never a problem ─ sweepers just kinda drag the game out (ironically) compared to more pinpoint interaction. I honestly think the slugfests are more fun at lower power levels anyway.

[@UnimooseProductions]

I have a weird philosophy where I never really play cards like Vandalblast anymore. Mostly because it can feel like a pseudo Armageddon against non-green decks. I'd say to play Shattering Spree or Austere Command instead where you have options and you don't have to destroy all artifacts if it will hose someone's mana.

[@pauliebleeker5442]

Hey, I'm looking for advice. How many board wipes would you run in a deck that uses a board wipe as a potential win condition? I'm building Linvala, Shield of Sea Gate and the plan is to gather a powerful party, make it indestructible and then wipe the board. Bonus question: How many cards would you run that give indestructible to your creatures?

[@roercula8425]

Thats not really a win condition the way you want to use its more of a strategie enhancer. I would try 6 board wipes if you really want to Fokus on them plus 5 protection Spells.

[@pauliebleeker5442]

@@roercula8425 Thanks for the answer. 6 and 5 sounds good. I know that it's not really a win condition, but I wanted to make sure that everyone understands that this is the route I want to go. It's a more or less janky deck, but a lot of fun. In our playgroup we love to build decks around certain themes and with certain stipulations. My Linvala deck is meant to be a d&d deck (for example I'm running all the lvl up creatures) and I'm not allowed to win if I haven't gathered a full party. Really lookin forward to the d&d set :D

[@eruantien9932]

My penny's-worth. Nev's is unconditional, because it doesn't look for anything about the cards other than type (so if it's conditional, then so is Wrath of God), and it has a fixed mana cost. Pernicious Deed is conditional because the mana cost isn't fixed, and only hits things with a CMC equal to or less than the mana you pump into it.

[@psy_p]

Josh: If you're the blink deck and have your Panharmonicon out you''re winning anywayand don't need to cast that artifact board wipe. Artifact player: Hold my Torpor Orb!

[@benjaminwileman4771]

Didn't read all the comments, but all is dust isn't an artifact. Love the video guys

[@jurassicjuror]

Decree of annihilation is amazing is Jhoira of the Ghitu..... Suspend your entire hand, including decree, drop all the counters with clockspinning, wipe everything, then drop an Eldrazi or four 😂

[@krisdenton8637]

I play Devastation, Decree of Annihilation and Jokulhaups in one of my commander decks

[@roercula8425]

Is there a win con behind this or just for the lulz?

[@tomhenson2189]

Just for the funsies!!!😱😫😁✌️👍

[@TheVargaszm]

Windgrace?

[@tomhenson2189]

@@TheVargaszm I would consider in any landfall matters deck with those colors