The AVOIDABLE Tragedy Behind Earth's Demise - Starfield Lore

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[@Dino2GunZ]

Oxhorn became a millionaire with Fallout 4 using this same strategy this is a perfect time for you to blow up great job on the video people love lore videos they love the mysteries in Bethesda games seriously good job on the video keep them coming wish you the best of luck

[@kritizismmusics9737]

Hell yeah because immersion of the world of video games with there stories consequence and secrets are enjoyable asf to listen too 🎉❤😂

[@Subject_Keter]

Screw Oxhorn, man has no class.

[@netook8]

I'd have to first start a shell company overseas to run a youtube channel out of. Because the cost of CRTC cert is astronomical and id otherwise be slowly starved of viewers.

[@Lorlic1138]

They gave humanity a future in the stars and all it cost them was their past…

[@Sioolol]

While Vic's actions are horrible they are understandable. Humanity needed to start colonising space as fast as possible, and mass exodus was the shortest and the most effective way of doing that, very similar reasoning to Hunter's.

[@2138Dude]

This quest hit me hard. I could physically feel the emotions I cant really describe but they were pleasant. Bravo Bethesda.

[@ven173]

Victor, on first encountering an artifact: "Some call these junk, but I call them treasures"

[@shampwoo]

Crazy seeing how far Belethor got in life, from selling bits and bobs in Whiterun to NASA (Yes I know Stephen Russell is far far more than that)

[@2A_W3ND1G0]

Ya beat me to it

[@Subject_Keter]

My family calls actors by what character they remember the most. And Belethor is one hell of a character lol.

[@Knight-PaladinEleanor]

Dont forget he was also an Enclave soldier before he was in whiterun selling his sister

[@tarheelpro87]

Actually belethor was the last person who came to mind, i was really thinking more of Mercer Frey whom i believe was voiced by the same guy. I couldn’t tell for sure though cause these were old recordings, so i was thinking “is that one of the Skyrim voice actors?” guess i’m right

[@philtl1997]

Yeah he also played nick valentine in fallout 4

[@StillOnTrack]

God the writing and voice acting is so much better in this game than in previous Bethesda games. The strain and desperation in Victor's voice when he says "I'm not lying okay??" gave me chills. Belethor never had me like that 😂

[@finalcam1740]

That same dude voiced many npc's in skyrim and has always nailed his lines like that

[@jessiehogue.]

Maybe, but would Victor sell his sister in an instant, if he had one?

[@Sioolol]

Fallout 4 female protagonist voice acting when she meets child Shawn is not a dime less bad.

[@Pilot-617]

As soon as I heard Victor's voice I knew it was the voice actor who did Mercer Frey from Skyrim.

[@awyff]

Nick valentine from fo4

[@0djdoublerr0]

I knew he sounded familier@@awyff

[@amy_grace]

It wouldn't be a Bethesda game without Stephen Russell!

[@Amj7211]

love how you go in depth with the lore in starfield. I dont know if it was just me but first thing i thought when sara rudely interrupted was "shut up sarah"

[@calobcook7528]

I had to hit her to maker her shut up 😂

[@MaoSeraphine]

So there's an universe where Victor Aiza (or someone else) invented grav drives by themselves in time for Victor to have been able to collect all the artifacts in his own lifetime and become starborn and he made it his goal to pull as many Victors from as many universes as possible to ensure the invention of the grav drives and the colonization of the settled systems in as many universes as possible.

[@ViciousVioletteLV]

I love how you’re doing content like this for Starfield. Thanks for the great work!

[@unknownel6174]

Another great lore narrative. You’re crushing it my guy!

[@wise_thaat]

Happy to see you become one of the top Starfield KZbinrs. Love the lore

[@bagofmarbles4712]

Hey, I subscribed because I want to see more Starfield lore broken down! Thanks for uploading

[@skyriminspace]

Dude, these are some top tier lore videos!

[@DuckDando1066]

I’d love to see a lore video around Ryujin, I think with your smooth af voice it’d be real pleasant to listen to

[@precutcheese5930]

I wish we could find vault tech vaults… that would be insane

[@kennithunderwood1086]

Nice to see Mercer Frey is now Victor 😂

[@ucragnarok6658]

Victor's voice is the same as mercer Frey and nick valentine, awesome!

[@remy5347]

I'm 50% sure Victor aiza is keeper Aquilus/The Hunter. It seems that when jumping universes your position in time doesn't change. If you side with the hunter suring the final fight hell tell you that when he goes through the universal rips his favorite flashbacks are of earth and that he's alot older than we think. My guess is that a Victor aiza somewhere in the multiverse did all the legwork, made a grav drive, and found all the artifacts to make it to the unity. And then maybe bcuz his earth was destroyed he tricks other universes into leaving earth. And for those who say it can't be the hunter/keeper because Victor killed himself, note that only in the universes we visit has he done this and keeper aquilis is a starborn himself apart from the hunter. How is it that two versions of 1 person can exist in the same universe idk but apparently you can meet yourself thought it hasn't happened to me yet.

[@marcusbergman6116]

He's Keeper Aquilus. But maybe Victor is The Pilgrim?

[@marcusbergman6116]

The Hunter and Victor do not have the same voice. But we never hear The Pilgrim.

[@Dino2GunZ]

Here's a hot take you the player are the pilgrim

[@UrielSepsis]

Hmh... I thought we are in what amounts to a a time loop, creating new universes on the way - but I guess people could just be very slow to resolve their problems and even years later nobody has done anything about, well... anything without player intervention. I mean yeah... that is how the game functions, multiverse or not - but now I'm imagining countless parallel universes I will never get around to mess with and how they are doomed to wallow in their problems for all eternity. ^^

[@TinMan445]

Interesting idea for sure, even though we’ve heard victors voice, it could be a young keeper aquilous. You bring up a great point though, keeper aquilous is starborn, he’s the hunter but a version that has decided to stay in this universe after going through so many, but at the same time, the hunter exists in the universe…. How could that be possible?

[@MyxRSC]

Love the todd howard flashlight

[@dmanmotherf]

I can kind of understand Other Victor's actions even if it doesn't justify them, it's a lot like us as the Starborn. When you jump around parallel universes the values and ethics behind actions aren't as significant. As the Starborn, we can choose to have pirates roam the universe or release mind-control chips to the public and it doesn't matter because we reset into another universe. It's either that or some pre-destiny thing Other Victor interpreted he had to do.

[@quentind7212]

He probably also witnessed our extinction if we stayed on earth. He made an almost impossible choice, thinking about what would be best for everyone. To be honest, if it would happen to us IRL, the choice would be heart breaking but with no second thought.

[@overrated6650]

You gain a sub

[@raymondcarter4335]

Hell yeah brother, force humanity into the great beyond!

[@mlmii1933]

Based on the logs and what both Hunter and Em says I think the destruction of Earth was done purposefully as 'other' Vic's goal was to force humanity into the stars as quickly as possible. (Haven't finished the video yet so apologies if you mentioned this.) *edit* ... a slight clarification is that I don't think the 'current universe Vic' knew the grav drive could be fixed as easily as it was.

[@vexile1239]

An interesting theory that requires some discussion, just not with me I'm barely functioning as it is

[@TinMan445]

Well it was a trade off. Either take to the stars and loose Earth, or stay on Earth and deal with diminishing resources, climate change, overpopulation, ect. Victors other self told him about the future he could create, about jemison. Honestly I think I would make the same choice victor did, but yes he knew earth would die.

[@michaelbarnard8529]

@@TinMan445except that the drives could have been designed correctly from the beginning, apparently with ease, if the danger was known. Space drives could have gotten humanity out into the galaxy, and Earth would have been fine. He made the choice to hide that knowledge so that all of humanity would be forced off earth. He sacrificed Earth’s biom to accelerate colonization of other worlds.

[@dragonquest8ftw1]

​@@michaelbarnard8529except earth was still dying even without the magnetosphere problem, over population, dwindling resources, climate change, there may not have been enough time to properly develop the grav drives without the brute force testing. Could Vic have been wrong? Possibly, but the result of the alternative isn't something you can just take a chance on

[@death299]

@@michaelbarnard8529 probably not. everything points to a starborn (or a creator) being the one that pushed the idea, and most of them have likely watched exactly what you're describing be attempted thousands of times over even keeper/pilgrim who's entire thing is helping people knows enough to let some tragedies just unfold as the alternative is worse

[@hukaman88]

Tbh first thing i did was scan Uranus

[@NoLimitSquad]

I love how the ECS Constant and the rocketship here at Nasa look the same bc of their "ancient look"

[@payton846]

You are the Morgan Freeman of lore videos. I could put these on to go to sleep at night. And the videos themselves of course are also awesome, keep it up man!

[@TinMan445]

It’s such an interesting conflict. On one hand your removing everyone’s choice, but isn’t it worth it for the amazing future created? I was genuinely conflicted when I learnt why earth’s magnetosphere was lost

[@NefasQS]

Hmm future aside, do you think humanity needed this drastic push to work together to escape extinction or do you think we would have eventually gotten ourselves together without the need for impending doom?

[@joanned8172]

@@NefasQS We would have/will eventually get out their and explore on our own without a push, this has been proven by our history of explorers and people yearning to know what else is out there. It just wouldn't have been as fast, in reality we will do it for new sources of resources.

[@xZeru001x]

@@NefasQS It definitely didn't need the push. They were able to fix the grav drive and could have done so sooner if Vic confessed so we know that the main point was to give people no other option. With the grav drives humanity would of gone out and done what it did just Victor wanted to live out his fantasy as we see he is bored with just sending out satelities and things like that. Another thing is the future in starfield isn't some utopia people are suffering still so, the sacrifice of the planet and people was unnecessary because so what if we go out into the stars a bit faster

[@death299]

it isn't worth it when you nearly wipe out your own species, and just casually kill everything but goats from earth. and the future isn't amazing or a utopia, they make it clear the entire time they've been struggling to survive and are constantly on the brink of collapse even when war is avoided

[@alfredkugler3043]

The problem with that thinking is, that obviously it is possible for the grav drive to be made save, considering that they use them all the time, and no planet shares the fate of Earth. Also obviously, the Dr. Aiza from the future knew how to do it. He provided the equation after all, and it take them just a little modification to make it save. So there was no reason to include that modification from the get go, keep Earth alive and still have the grav drive and the whole settled systems available.

[@Shadowpack95]

It is weird that Humans didn't bring at least dogs and Cats with them, they are our closest companions.

[@drachendasgut1312]

maybe he also was trying to prevent it and even tried to give him a solution to prevent some aspects of that time line

[@suprizeoptomist4680]

I've played through this quest, but I don't remember Todd's head being randomy projected on the environment. It's kind of terrifying, like a jump scare.

[@helderoliveira2994]

Timestamp?

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

I have a feeling that’s a mod lol

[@A_name_is_a_name]

Pro gamer move

[@andrewrobb3258]

What bugs me is that even if we lose the magnetic sphere we could actually replace its by a giant electromagnent at the Lagrange point between the earth and the sun. It would take the power output of two fission plants but considering they evacuated earth that may have been easier to do. This also means they can fix the earth but there to lazy to do this.

[@richardiv385]

Perhaps the developers either didn't think of this, wanted interstellar nations to exist on relatively equal footings or just wanted to not model a futuristic Earth for the player to explore. It's the lack of biocontrol and vertical farms that annoyed me before I read your comment.

[@death299]

yeah...no, that is literally only a theory that no one is even sure would work,, moreover we (and they) literally don't have the tech to make something like that work in the first place, the hopes is further research will lead to it being possible but it isn't. and they DIDN'T evacuate earth, they evacuated a fraction of the population while most died, do you have any idea how many resources would be needed to make a theoretical project feasible when the tech isn't there and then implement it before the mass extinction of the planet? even attempting it odds of failure are insanely high

[@xzentric101]

What's crazy is that earth is "uninhabitable" however npcs have settlements on all sorts of planets and moons with no atmosphere and tocix environment,s, we literally have a skill to build on extreme environments. Just go back and start rebuilding.

[@Natsukashii1111]

Judith tatienne sound like Curie from fallout 4 right?

[@themonkysuncle]

Sounds to me Dr Aiza would sell his grandmother for a better gravdrive.😊

[@mikelapine1]

The next time you make a video like this could you please leave your companions at the ship or something so they don’t talk over the audio? Also lower the BGM a little so it doesn’t overwhelm the audio please.

[@jgon12]

There is much lore here and questions like is all starborn human? When was the firts starborn? Can starborn travel back in time? Or into the future? Is there no other sentient life? Or could our universe dont have aliens only on other universes 🤔

[@BBRocker75]

I think Bethesda approach this topic like Asimov did it. A robot army destroying all alien life before humans arrive.

[@TinMan445]

You also have to wonder if a version of Victor was the pilgrim…

[@AustinGMRS]

Short version: some idiot in NASA found Artifact, use it to make grav drive, heard that it’s killing earth’s atmosphere but still doing it nonetheless because of his starborn self come and said “you can be da hero!!!” Aaaannnddd earth died😢

[@biliam3865]

Kinda have a headcanon that in Starfields world, the same thing that happened to Earth happened to Mars with some ancient alien intelligence. Probably a bit too fantastical for Starfield but still cool thought.

[@biliam3865]

Also I kinda like that they didn't give an answer yet to who the Creators are, even though I wish the artifacts, temples and anomalies were explained a little bit more or had more clues.

[@MrTim2031]

I figure it was humanity grave jumping to earth after they destroyed mars.

[@colchronic]

Florida seems to have changed little

[@ChymicalEVV]

Love the game, but that's a pretty good looking 300 year old corpse

[@ChymicalEVV]

Looked it up, if it's a vaccume the corpse might not decompose as much, but I'm pretty sure there is air in the building. Not sure. I'll check next time I go, see if I can remove my helmet.

[@higgitydiggity317]

Just throw in a 'im super cereal' and the end of one of Victors lines and hes Al Gore from south park

[@NorthernChev]

Why did you not tell us they were going to be spoilers at the beginning of this? I'm not talking about the earth. I'm talking about the star born and the artifacts?

[@nvfury13]

The ECS Constant (Earth Colony Ship Constant), launched in 2140 (a year before the grav drive test) because of the desire for humanity to survive the slow collapse of the magnetosphere. Not sure why these two quests give opposing lore…

[@death299]

it doesn't. play it again (or watch it) brakenbridge studied a bunch of different situations that could lead to an extinction level event (climate change, astroid strike, nuclear war, pandemics "and more") and came to the conclusion earth would be hit by one within 50 years and that was the assumption the crew had for generations, that earth became uninhabitable due to one of those situations, not a magnetosphere collapse it's basically sheer freaking chance that they launched right before an extinction level event started..albeit one he didn't predict, but they weren't fleeing the effects of the grave drive

[@HackTheMinotaur]

Mantis Lore video when? 😎

[@nBasedAce]

KZbin's commercials are making videos skip ahead. I had to skip back a whole minute after just one commercial break.

[@LordSignur]

earth is likely the last planet i'll visit in this game. I live on earth, i'm not into it.

[@TinMan445]

Just a nerdy correction: the grav drive doesn’t pull us or planets towards each other, it bends/folds space

[@mikiroony]

What I don't get is how Grav Drives do not affect the same Jemison or Akila.

[@shayenbrown910]

maybe cause the prototypes were unstable and not under control

[@Hy3jii]

The prototype given was intentionally harmful to planetary magnetospheres. The Starborn Victor wanted humanity to colonize the stars as quickly as possible and "our" Victor agreed (though he would regret his decision later in life). Later models were improved and had not detrimental effects.

[@Augusto9588]

Besides what was said, the original grav drive was also made using an artifact, while the recent ones aren't.

[@amy_grace]

It's explained at 15:06 in the video. They fixed the drives once they discovered the problem. But it was already too late for Earth.

[@Nekropsyy]

your recent videos are a nice change of pace from the boring eso drivel, your channel is looking much better, keep up the good work nefas

[@SABaruj]

I have a better idea for the Lore of Earth: the artifact that is working on NASA, change into the armillary maybe like the base of it, its was always on earth, the scientists discovered that artifact on mars, then they combine it with the armillary on earth, after that they started experiments, yes, it was the base of every gravitational engine, but, the experiment never ended, the moment they started experimenting with the armillary no one was capable of turning it off, so, it created a complete field of alterated gravity, it falled to the center of earth, now the planet has an alterated gravity all around the planet with sudden random Peaks of gravity, that way you would found floating broken cities like the temples you found on the universe, or suddenly when you came to earth a city starts floating, just after you arrive on earth, as part of a scripted quest, the main quest. Well, our mission as the protagonist is to turn off the artifact and no one exept someone with Stellar powers can do it, it could be a perfect way to use you powers, maybe the shield, some power to manipulate gravity, etc, all of that until you get to the core and turn of the Armillary with those artifacts on it.

[@SABaruj]

Imagine news reporting some zero gravity on a big city, but, suddenly the gravity becomes bigger than earth and some skycrappers broke and fall, that could be epic as a video of the start, or imagine being able to go to universe where this is starting, maybe a limited quest where you say some things but you come back to your universe fast, it was futile, but, at least the player lived how everything started.

[@yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy]

Is that grav drive happened.. They explain it to you

[@kriswinklmann6401]

Judith-"nag nag nag nag nag nag!!"

[@cmdrgogen3203]

And I thought Dragonborn is complex.

[@BBRocker75]

Tx U very much. A whole Universe deserv a whole lore video serie. 👍👍👍 Earth is Humanity craddle, but all babies will grow and became adults and fly away.

[@fit-inspire]

This is why The Cult of Starfield Haters hate the game. They don’t like to see the potential future of our planet.

[@RobertTapia]

Traded earth for new Atlantis...lol😂 wtf?

[@efxnews4776]

What happened? Bethesda is lazy. They could make at least some cities on Earth, but they decide to go on BS! That's why Mass Effect still RULES! In ME3 we got to see Earth in all it's glory in a futuristic Montreal, we also see the reapers destruction first hand and later in the game we see a devastated London.

[@philtl1997]

Am I the only one who noticed that Victor's voice is nick valentine from fallout 4

[@quanti5]

I really wish my companion would stop talking over audio logs or other character's dialogue.

[@justinhammer3196]

I demand DLC where we populate the earth anew with Jawa knockoffs.

[@DeSuenner]

Thank God they escaped to Mars.... that has also no atmosphere.... Yeah let's build a bunker city there and leave earth as the only stellar object in 30 light-years that has no outposts on it

[@michaelbarnard8529]

Pretty silly. The barren Earth should be covered in the sealed habitats that people had fifty years to build (and that’s assuming the ridiculous premise that ship sized events on the moon could have any significant effect on the Earth’s core, or permanently shut down the magnetosphere.)

[@DeSuenner]

@@michaelbarnard8529 maybe they saw their opportunity as they discovered they could Walk and stand inside the colonies ships, even though the grav drive wasn't invented yet.

[@WilliamRobertHixon]

​@@michaelbarnard8529i think the idea is that lots of people died during the escape, as evidenced by the fact at least 1 Colony Ship hadn't launched. So while people may come by to pick around for trinkets, but no-one wants to settle permanently to give respect to the dead.

[@ThoraxtheDarkk]

Lyle shnub is the real OG. This doesn't compare I'm sorry

[@Rabbiturtacorn]

fuck a little spoiler note at the beginning would have been nice.....

[@NefasQS]

0:55 - Spoiler warning right here?

[@Rabbiturtacorn]

@@NefasQS oh, well then, must have missed that....

[@vexile1239]

Game play is a "bit" iffy but the lore is actually quite rich

[@yippykayakotherbuckets8870]

What happened to Earth? Kameltoe Harris happened to Earth.

[@chrisdfx1]

This makes zero sense though. If one grav drive destroyed Earth, how are there literally millions of grav drives being used now without destroying every planet in the universe?

[@MrDarkisle]

It literally says in audio logs, they fixed the grav drives some time after realising the problem

[@chrisdfx1]

@@MrDarkisle Ah, missed it, ty.

[@loloverlord1664]

It's so weird they had to invent a fictional catastrophe to wipe out Earth when climate collapse is already doing this.

[@NefasQS]

Presumably in Starfield based on the ART’s message, humanity may have figured out ways to mitigate the effect of climate change on themselves. The atmosphere being stripped away in comparison is a much faster and violent destruction for the planet as a whole.

[@amy_grace]

A science fiction story used a crazy science metaphor for a real life issue... that's like the least weird thing ever

[@trs8947]

But it dont happen to any other planets, dont make sense

[@NefasQS]

The grav drives were fixed post-2149.

[@MB-sq7yn]

They literally talk about finding a way to fix it in the audio logs, jfc.

[@Ultra_Maga_Shaun]

i blame cow farts

[@Patton243]

Overhyped mediocre game.

[@Dino2GunZ]

It's okay if you don't have the intellectual capabilities to understand the game most casual players won't but hey there's always fortnite

[@BBRocker75]

Over hyped mediocre HATER. That's U. Go away!

[@BBRocker75]

​@@Dino2GunZWhole agree 👍👍👍

[@Patton243]

@@BBRocker75 You agree? Good for you. If you do a Starfield reviews in google over 2000 people give it a 3.3 rating out of 5. If that's not mediocre I don't know what is. Both of you fan boys nothing more.

[@Augusto9588]

One month. The game has been out for one month and people still go out of their way to hate on it. Todd lives rent free inside your head.