The BANNED TMNT story (TMNT comics)

It's one of the most memorable TMNT comics stories from the guest era of Mirage Comics' volume one. But because of several circumstances, it is unlikely to get reprinted again. This is the story behind "The river" story, and it's soft follow-up story, "Sons of the Silent Age".
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The BANNED TMNT story (TMNT comics)
00:00 How the story came to be
03:14 Down to the river
04:57 River Hymn
06:00 Old Man River
07:32 Sons of the silent age
08:41 Is it canon?
09:06 Legal limbo
10:55 Wyrm
11:17 Is there a solution?
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[@TheTurtleNexus]

One thing I didn't really clarify in the video is that there are other banned stories because of the issues described. Like "Sky Highway" and "Turtle Dreams", plus other specials outside of Volume 1. But "The River" took three issues and is the most memorable one. (Although, Sky Highway also got referenced later... but that could be a story for another day.

[@lucasgibbs4050]

I didn’t know the turtles passed by Springfield!

[@TheSCARYshow1]

What is the name of this music playing? 03:15

[@TheTurtleNexus]

@@TheSCARYshow1 The song in this video is "Odonis Odonis" by Student.

[@TheSCARYshow1]

@@TheTurtleNexus thank you! You've got great taste in music!

[@bobber3000]

The AI narration is painful listening that sucks. Near the end it says, 'picked their interest' and the closed caption also said picked. The actual word is PIQUED but AI has apparently eliminated it from the lexicon. I had to dislike and split.

[@theinnerlight8016]

Honest trailer voice 😂

[@thunderole]

I actually had a nightmare about Bloodsucker last year. I am 33 and it was probably 16-17 years since I read the story. Weird experience :P

[@TheTurtleNexus]

I often think about this story as well...

[@ghostchaser1631]

It's really a shame that "The River" has been made inaccessible because it's one of my favorite stories from the Mirage era and one of the best all around, there's nothing like a good TMNT horror story. I'm glad that you mentioned Wyrm as a comparison including the rip off version in the 2012 television series because I was hoping that they would do something with Wyrm for the farmhouse arc that was closer to Bloodsucker in the comic books for the primary reason that it would have fit him a lot better. I already knew at the time that it couldn't happen and, for the most part at least, why, but it just would have been better than making him a stupid space genie. There was the Chimera creature which was actually part earthworm, but it wasn't the same thing.

[@hermionestoybox1154]

This remains one of the most compelling TMNT stories ever told in my opinion. Great video

[@nikholman1287]

I have this story. I bought these issues when I was a kid and I had no idea what was going on. I just knew the cartoon and toys. It's great to see a video on it.

[@jabberwock6]

the creep from the 2012 animated series was basically bloodsucker when it took all of Raphael mutagen blood

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Yes, it was a workaround (if I remember correctly, those were the only similarities).

[@amazingdoorbob5458]

I was just gonna say this, if I remember correctly, there's a line where one of the turtles calls it a bloodsucker too

[@tyronleung5276]

I'd love to see bloodsucker get his own neca figure

[@AustinTXSlasher]

Subscribed! Thank you for your hard work in bringing all of this material to us.

[@nazishhussain2712]

the river felt like balls of revenge episode of courage

[@tyronleung5276]

I love the river arch I wish they would adapt this in a movie

[@egateqa1351]

Oh my god, I can't believe you brought EpicVoiceGuy to do the voice for this video, despite you're not popular.

[@TheTurtleNexus]

It just sounds like him... but it's not him 🙃

[@egateqa1351]

Then who is he?

[@KasumiKenshirou]

@@egateqa1351 This sounds like an AI voice rather than an actual human.

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Thanks for watching! Do you like stories from the guest era?

[@tyronleung5276]

I love the guest era

[@lucasgibbs4050]

Is the guest era the reason why you got Jon Bailey from Honest Trailers to narrate this video?

[@Sir-Loin_1976]

Heck yeah!

[@anthonysmith3415]

didn't this story kinda happen in the 2012 tmnt episode where they had a friday the 13th parody and it sucked all of Raph's mutagen?

[@tyronleung5276]

I wish blood sucker was a reoccurring villain

[@MegaMan87]

Happy National TMNT Day of March 19. Yeah it was kind of a Twisted turn for the Main 84 TMNT Storyline and i went through it all once to complete it. Like TMNT Adventures: It was a message, We all must Protect the Environment for the better Future of the world. Ending Corruption of Man today!

[@IWonder....]

This was a extremely interesting video, some things i didn't know. Till now.👍🐢

[@sadistich0rr0r99]

I bought these comics when they were released. This story stuck with me all these years. One of the best I’ve read.

[@everardoluna9776]

I actually remember reading this story arc as a kid but man Bloodsucker still creeps me out

[@jrr2480]

Great video 👍. I hope the owners of each properties can work something out. 😀

[@tyronleung5276]

Wish Michael zullis tmnt were explored more

[@carlosfelipe2988]

Gran video 🤩🤗😎!!!!!!

[@shonsoul2596]

The artist Rick viche also did brat pack, please read the comic, it's amazing 🤩

[@Sir-Loin_1976]

I'm hopeful at some point in the future IDW will be able to nail some sort of contract to get the Rick Veitch stuff reprinted. Heck, all the Mirage stuff. 🤞

[@jonathanstromxmonicaddlcma6371]

You should like honest trailer

[@TheTurtleNexus]

I do!

[@samuraimai4874]

WTF is this AI of the Honest Trailer Guy's voice?! This does'nt feel right...

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Check out my community posts for the story behind this voice.

[@jamesmoss3424]

I will check out the river story. 😀👍🐢

[@Rose_Bride]

This was REALLY interesting! I have never heard of this story, and that's a real shame (for me). There are SO many awesome and unique comic adventures out there about The Turtles that studios could draw inspiration from, yet time and time again they insist on doing the "safe" mainstream retellings we keep getting. For me (so far) my favorite animated Turtles remain the 2003 Turtles, who drew inspiration from the original comics. Yet I can acknowledge that even with the 2003 series, after a point the story admittedly started to become redundant and stale. I REALLY hope this new upcoming reboot of The Turtles doesn't fall into the usual practice of just doing a variation of a retelling of the 1987 Turtle's story (like what Nickelodeon basically did). I really would like to see a fresh take on them.

[@jackko21]

I'm with ya sadly where getting another movie mad efoe the little kiddies that sucks the cock of the 1987 cartoon

[@Alexindiegamedev]

The narrator sounds like the same epic voice guy from SmoshGames

[@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork]

I find it to be complete bullshit that they are not allowed to release the entire series properly in omnibus form.

[@TheTurtleNexus]

They can do it if they want to. But it will more than likely result in lawsuits.

[@D._Eath]

" Do not mock the green . "

[@oneeyedrob]

I have these issues… I think banned is a little dramatic, I always thought bloodsucker was just a rights issue

[@TheTurtleNexus]

It's complicated. Nothing is stopping IDW from reprinting these. But Veitch would still be able to sue them (unless they clear the legalities with him), therefore, IDW is "banned" from reprinting it. It's not the story itself that is banned. But in any case, I will replace this video soon and find a way to make it clearer.

[@oneeyedrob]

@@TheTurtleNexusmy first reply from a channel! Anyway, subscribed

[@TMNTTHECONTINUITY]

Can you make a video about the Souls Trilogy

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Yes

[@TMNTTHECONTINUITY]

@@TheTurtleNexus yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@TheTurtleNexus]

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[@TMNTTHECONTINUITY]

i wish that TMNT 2012 did that

[@mattdestroyed]

Lucky I have a copy of this.

[@Cornholio75]

Why was it banned and not canon

[@TheTurtleNexus]

This video explains why it was banned. As for why it wasn't canon, you can check out the other video about the time the TMNT saved the asgardians.

[@ogeidnomar4601]

Is Tmnt Vol 1-The only one with this much complication in its legality of being able to reprint only some of the 62 issues? Versus Vol 2 (13 issues) Vol 3-( 23~26 issues) and Vol 4 (32 issues)

[@TheTurtleNexus]

As far as I know, volume 1 is the only one with legal impediments. Volume 4 can be reprinted but I think they are not doing it because it is incomplete. I know there are a few issues of Tales Vol. 2 that couldn't be reprinted as well (all the C.O.W.boys of Moo Mesa crossovers).

[@tj.henderson]

What is the picture from 0:36 from

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Turtlemania! by Aled Lewis. You can find the print in iam8bit

[@TheTurtleNexus]

www.iam8bit.com/products/turtlemania-by-aled-lewis-lean-mean-green-a-tmnt-limited-edition-art-print-series

[@TheTurtleNexus]

It's actually sold out now, but that was where it came from.

[@chicken-films10]

So im the only one who likes the voice?

[@The_Punisher]

It's Ai Jon Bailey

[@stevencochran5301]

It was overlay.

[@niezdecytowana.k.a.2conten835]

Almost 27 057 views....

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

All this drama over a story with a Leech Druid?

[@Aurochhunter]

Shredder's head on a pike? Bit gruesome for a comic don't you think?

[@TheTurtleNexus]

It's OK. TMNT, (the comic) was for adults. Only sold in the direct market where this kind of material was very common.

[@jarrettreynolds4560]

Why are u talking like William Shatner?😂🤣

[@TheTurtleNexus]

😛

[@agonleed3841]

.more like America's most wanted or something like that.

[@supernerd5781]

John Bailey?

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Not John Bailey.

[@dqham]

Sure does sound like John Bailey.

[@pathevermore3683]

NGL, i spent some time on google because i though he was Jon Bailey.

[@pathevermore3683]

@@TheTurtleNexus sus

[@TheTurtleNexus]

@@pathevermore3683 His name is Don. Which is very likely a pseudonym, and I respect his decision to go by that name.

[@3MenAndALetsPlay]

Is this AI read voice work cause it sounds terrible, like they don't know how to read sentence structure. I would have watched the whole vid if it were your real voice, but this sounds off putting and I can't pay attention.

[@TheTurtleNexus]

I will eventually remake this video with our current narrator. I am slowly replacing them.

[@Gigas0101]

Odd ai voice choice.

[@OmniMoon_]

Overrated arc if you ask me, it’s good but I’m not a fan of most of the guest era comics. To many times the turtles were written completely wrong. There’s a reason most of that era were made non canon.

[@tonycasey7539]

What is this AI voiceover? Stinks man

[@TheTurtleNexus]

I started replacing the text-to-speech videos recently, but it will take me a long time to replace them all.

[@plastikpixelz4178]

Lol is this Ai? The pronouncing of the names sounds like you never heard of these people 🤣

[@TheTurtleNexus]

It's text-to-speech, and... English is my second language, so sometimes a word may sound close enough for me but not for a native speaker. So you can also blame the human in this case. I am slowly replacing these human-unfriendly videos with human-narrated ones, but there are more than 40, so it's gonna take me a while. In the meantime, you can avoid them altogether by watching recent or new videos (for the past year now), or by watching the "Deluxe" playlist. This video in particular is going to be replaced this year (hopefully).

[@Crazyredemu]

I don't care about the swamp thing drama, way too long to get to a point, I'm out

[@TheTurtleNexus]

I am giving you Rick's motivations for the story ended up being banned... and the drama at DC is part of what caused it. I only do long videos when there is a lot to talk about, and this one was one of those cases.

[@nnm3101]

Crazyredemu Short attention span

[@RaphielHot]

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