The Baseball Hall of Fame MAKES NO SENSE.. (rant)

The Baseball Hall of Fame MAKES NO SENSE.. rant about David Ortiz, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and more in 2022...
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[@bbj1451]

I hate how this is taking away the spotlight of big papi’s greatest achievement

[@user-bg1bk6pd6e]

He's a cheater end of story!!!!

[@betterbaseball8990]

@@user-bg1bk6pd6e how? 😂

[@Xenlacasa45]

They’re just lumping in bonds as if he didn’t have ten years to make it no uproar the last 9 years

[@dallio900]

@@user-bg1bk6pd6e tbh, Bonds was in som case worse scenario; the BALCO case where the sustance was an anabolic steroid that bypass the drug test.... sooo that makes him being on steroid at first and using a suplement to hide it... and even on 11' was found guilty to lying on federal court on the same case he is involved.... Not saying he didn't deserve it, since im the one of the ppl who said steroids dont give talent; but I understand in a fair point why he didn't entered as well as Clemens

[@itzduffy4840]

@@betterbaseball8990 he did roids too?

[@zacharyfrady6412]

Can we all respect how there is no content and Fuzzy no matter what just saves our boredom. Thanks fuz

[@manzac112]

As a baseball fan, I want to ask this: Does cheating really matter anymore in MLB's eyes? EDIT: This question is not as black and white as people thought.

[@JRAGTVsubscribeNow]

Yes it does matter, why you might ask because people like mike trout and ken Griffey jr did it the right way, without cheating that’s what the game is all about playing the game by the rules, without rules there is no game

[@guitarkoala5]

@@JRAGTVsubscribeNow tell that to Tony LaRussa, Bud Selig, etc…. Steroids made baseball money, and the money makers are in the hall.

[@CatchEmAllSaul]

@@JRAGTVsubscribeNow nerd

[@Wozrop]

If we're gonna hold up Jackie Robinson and Roberto Clemente and Curtis Granderson for their character, its disengenuous to pretend character doesn't matter.

[@thecman26]

Clearly

[@edssportscards6898]

Honestly HOF players should be the only ones voting, writers get to emotional

[@masonganter-xz5ew]

Facts

[@bnezz77]

Let's not forget about the complicity of the writers. They knew steroids were a problem. They also profited of the backs of these players. Million dollar checks were cashed, book deals signed, and were made famous on cable sports channels. The writers are just as much to blame for the steroid era as anyone else. Hypocrites, all of them!!!

[@jessemac8074]

Barry Bonds not being in the Hall of Fame is the most egregious thing in baseball. He is without a doubt going down in history as the best hitter.

[@simoncohen9323]

Sure but he won't go down as the best hitter who didn't cheat

[@zeusdeuce7438]

As a Braves fan it really disappoints me that the baseball writers value defense so little. Andruw Jones who is arguably the greatest defensive player of all time can’t even come close with over 400 home runs to boot.

[@seanaball24]

I watched him play when he was on the Richmond braves and he hit two or three home runs. I can't remember it was in the 90's 😂

[@TheCrowVarietyShow]

Ozzie Smith

[@EldritchAugur]

I think it's a combination of undervaluing defense, and Andruw Jones' nasty domestic violence allegations. If Jim Edmunds isn't in the hall of fame, then Jones likely won't get in.

[@futuregohan4837]

@@EldritchAugur Jim Edmonds Never Had Domestic Violence Allegations But It's Just Covid Struck Him

[@jtro3452]

Willie Mays, Stan Musial, Griffey, Puckett. All were better defensively than Jones. And there's more. I'm mot saying Jones wasn't good defense but not the best.

[@raysmolka3987]

Fuzzy, thanks for capturing exactly how I feel, with less vulgarity. I’ve said for YEARS that ARod realized what terrible PR advice he received when he was a player, and has dedicated himself to remaking his image to get into the HoF.

[@brandonroberson9807]

I still want Andrew jones in the HOF

[@zeusdeuce7438]

I honestly think Ortiz gets a pass because of all the clutch moments that stand out in his career. When you think of Big Papi you don’t think of records you think of clutch hitting in the postseason over and over again. The other guys are more known for the records they broke.

[@aidanhaberstroh2545]

they didnt break records, they made the records.... literally 2 of the greatest players of all time. Bonds before steroids was already a hall of famer.

[@greysonG10]

Exactly, Bonds had his chances to come up huge for SF in the post season and never really did too much.

[@MarkSmithhhh]

Lol he gets a pass cause of clutch moments? Lol!!!! So barry bonds doesn't get a pass for all his moments

[@jonathanwashington9199]

Not To Mention Ortiz Is Funny As Heck Being Very Disrespectful To Those Yankees

[@iraevans2013]

If y'all wanna put Bonds, Clemens, A-Rod, Sosa in then where's the love for McGwire, Palmeiro, Giambi , Man-Ram, Canseco, Belle, and Delgado?

[@4-6-3DPBaseball]

As a red Sox fan I’m so happy to see big pappi get in the HOF

[@someoneyoudontknow7705]

I’m a Yankee fan but I’m happy he got in as well, he deserved it. Glad Clemens didn’t get in, couldn’t stand the guy.

[@jonahschloss516]

The one thing that I will say in defense of the writer’s is that Bonds was a real jerk, specifically to the writer’s. IN ADDITION, to the steroids use that put him over the top with enough writers. Also, as a Yankees fan, I think that there is absolutely no way A-Rod is a HOFer.

[@Wozrop]

What makes you say that he isn't, like statistically? He has 696 HR, 140 Career OPS+, 117.5 bWAR, 3000 hits, 300 steals. Or would you say that doing the "without steroids" math that he wouldn't be in the HOF had he not done steroids? Or do you just not see the writers giving it to him what with the positive test and getting suspended.

[@jonahschloss516]

@@Wozrop Two reasons A-Rod isn’t getting 1: If you thought that Bonds was nasty to the media, man oh man, you should have seen A-Rod after he got the biggest suspension in MLB history. 2: Bonds not being inducted sets precedence for other steroid users, none of which were as good as him. Basically, if Bonds got in, he would have a better chance, but since he didn’t, no way is someone with worse number and more positive P.E.D tests than him could make it.

[@jonahschloss516]

Statistically though, all of them are Hall of Famer’s

[@Xenlacasa45]

@@jonahschloss516 it’s not just based on stats integrity and character are requirements as well.

[@Wozrop]

@@jonahschloss516 Oh ok, I thought you meant that in a different way. I'm not sure tbh, I think it'll be really close by his 10th year, I think if A-rod is gonna get in, the writers are gonna have to change the way they look at steroids, and I'm not sure whether they will or not, I think that could go either way, also new voters liked Bonds, A-Rod could benefit from older voters dying off and new voters coming on.

[@timryanfromnj117]

These players should also be put in Thurman Munson Roger.Maris Pete rose he has paid for what he did And in my opinion bonds and clemens do deserve if ever get in so should Pete rose that's just my thoughts

[@swilliams21231]

The MLB Hall of Fame is essentially a sham at this point in time. It is a completely subjective popularity contest. The asterisk on Barry's homerun ball was not put on the ball by Cooperstown, it was the guy that caught the ball.

[@randomstuff508]

The MLB doesn't have a hall of game...

[@nancycoleman369]

I saw Barry Bonds at the Westminster Kennel Show last year. He seemed like the nicest guy. But my first thought was :what did he give to his show dog? The dog won some minor ribbon but he credited his sister with training the dog.He must have knew the public would be suspicious of his dog’s success.

[@markzuckergecko621]

Lmao, I'm picturing some super jacked Rottweiler with shoulders growing on its shoulders, just staring you down and saying "ruff" in an almost human like, intimidating way🤣

[@alexmcleod9997]

As a Red Sox fan I started crying when I found out big papi got in

[@elcomp4211]

Makes us two.

[@jbayardo77]

Big win for you guys! I’m a dodger fan, but I’ll always love Boston, especially that 2013 team

[@theowlman7091]

It's a shame Curt Schilling didn't get in the hall of fame. Baseball is a joke for not making that man a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

[@ejtaylor27]

Lol

[@jmsd25]

@@theowlman7091 Curt Schilling literally asked to be taken off the ballot. Why would they vote in someone who doesn’t want to be in it.

[@rsswilliams2866]

N0 cheaters should get in. No matter what they did. It takes away from the people who did it right & EARNED. IT.

[@johnbettmann1404]

By that logic the hall would be pretty much empty.

[@marcomayorga3482]

@@johnbettmann1404 true

[@simoncohen9323]

@@johnbettmann1404 and

[@TheFlowsi]

Fuzzy, you shouldn’t say that Ortiz tested positive back in 03, his name was mentioned on a list of suspected cheaters at the time but Ortiz never failed a test and having his name on a list that some random guy made does not mean that he actually did Roids. ALSO Bonds and Sosa never failed a test either, there were speculations of them being cheaters but they never failed a test, I remember in 2012 when Derek Jeter had one of his best seasons at 38yrs of age, getting over 200 hits and batting over 315. Many people accused him of being on steroids, but it died out because he’s Derek Jeter, congrats to Ortiz, hopefully Bonds and Sosa make the hall some day

[@greatestnitemare6626]

hahahah Ortiz fanboy

[@laraby40]

Mcgwire and Sosa saved baseball not Bonds and clemens. For that reason alone both Sosa and Mcqwire should be in the hall. Without those two these writers might not have anything to write about.

[@Jokerjodon123]

Agree

[@MrBurtonPE]

Agreed that was such an exciting battle back and forth. As a Cardinals fan I can’t agree more.

[@cwahoo1]

Baseball needs to put players in who deserve it from their play on the field. However, this is a museum. As such, do not leave out there flaws. Randomly choosing whose morals should fit doesn’t make sense. The first man ever chosen, Ty Cobb, beat the crap out of an armless man yet he is in and on a unanimous selection. Bonds was the greatest hitter I have ever seen it’s a shame that baseball profited from him then shunned him.

[@gadbowen8980]

I think its a lazy argument to say Ortiz only got in because he’s nice. Ortiz was one of the most feared hitters of all time. Of course, Bonds and Clemens belong in the hall but Ortiz shouldnt be discounted.

[@Wozrop]

I don't think its lazy but I think it could be argued that were he not nice he wouldn't have got in. He probably wouldn't have fallen off by any means but he wouldn't be first ballot if he wasn't. He only got 77 percent, he was mildly divisive, he only had 55 WAR, he was a DH with no defensive value to speak of, PED suspicions, I think adding all that up, really anything could have kept him out this year.

[@betterbaseball8990]

@@Wozrop DHs aren't supposed to play the field they are there to hit

[@Wozrop]

@@AJolls Those are words arranged in the form of a sentence

[@mikepalumbo7781]

@@Wozrop thank you... he was not as good as everyone makes him out to be.

[@user-bg1bk6pd6e]

Feared by non of the good pitchers, your getting that information from stupid activite writers!!!! This guy wasn't that good!!! Bryce Harper barely gets covered for winning the MVP last year.

[@duckparsons]

Tom Verducci: In a defense of Ortiz not given any other player before or since, commissioner Rob Manfred said, “We were not certain it was a banned substance as opposed to something that was available over the counter. … It was important to make people understand that even if your name was on that list, that it was entirely possible that you were not a positive.” The late union chief Michael Weiner said, “The presence of a player’s name on any such list does not necessarily mean that the player used a prohibited substance or that the player tested positive under our collectively bargained program.”

[@MrMalicious5]

It’s about favorites and politics. Ortiz not the first with a failed test in the HOF.

[@simoncohen9323]

Never failed

[@davidwindell]

I always hated Big Papi. I always thought he was insincere and it was abundantly clear that he’d say whatever was going to get him the biggest round of applause regardless of what his personal beliefs were (for what it’s worth, he comes off as a rather shallow person who doesn’t really have personal beliefs that matter much to him, so I guess the pandering wasn’t AS bad, but still…) also always thought Papi was ridiculously overrated. He was a great hitter. He had some big hits when it mattered (though his actual clutch factor has never come close to what the legends would have you believe). End of the day, nobody outside of Boston is ever gonna remember Papi, he didn’t transform the game in any way, and he was just basically another dude. Edwin Encarnacion but who played for a major market team.

[@randomstuff508]

You seem to remember him pretty well...

[@ticktickl3oom944]

thanks fuzz its been really down without baseball tis helps :)

[@gabrielmargolies9154]

This year's voting was bizarre. There were so many people who missed out who deserved to make it, such as Bonds and Clemens. However, it's clear that it has nothing to do with steroids, because Big Papi (deservedly) got in. The one that I'm kind of irked by is Curt Schilling. I know he said he doesn't want to be voted in by the writers, and he's been kind of a jerk in his personal life, but he's seriously one of the best pitchers of his generation, was amazing in the postseason, has better stats than most Hall of Fame pitchers in some areas, and never took steroids during an era where everyone was doing it. Rolen, Helton, Wagner, and Andruw Jones are all players who I think should eventually get in, although if they never make it I wouldn't be too surprised.

[@simoncohen9323]

Big papi never tested positive for roids

[@dalinhearn9772]

@@simoncohen9323he had the same amount of evidence as Barry

[@simoncohen9323]

@@dalinhearn9772 actually Barry has worse as his trainers and he himself admitted in a court case he took roids

[@simoncohen9323]

@@dalinhearn9772 Barry manager in a court case admitted Barry took steroids also you don't go from kd to Shaq in a off-season unless you do drugs

[@greatestnitemare6626]

@@simoncohen9323HAHAHAHA Ortiz went from skinny dude to huge MF in 03. Gtfoh Ortiz was on roids. He got it from his boy manny. He went from a bum to amazing

[@johnnyc0882]

In the case of Bonds and Clemens, I think the reasons go beyond how they treated the media (definitely was a factor, obviously) and most of the reasons fall on how the carried themselves when questioned by congress

[@TheNiggo2]

Let’s also not forget about Derek Jeter (the worst defensive player of all time and under 300 career home runs) was unanimously inducted on the first ballot

[@mickmichmerhuizen249]

No bonds. Yay

[@AWG_07]

Bonds and Clemens should be in, no doubt. They are vastly important figures in the history of the sport, and they will be til the day someone surpasses their records (will likely never happen). Hopefully the veterans committee does the right thing and puts them in....same goes for Pete as well.

[@simoncohen9323]

They only have that record because they cheated no right to the hall

[@AWG_07]

@@simoncohen9323 so take out all cheaters from the hall.....Gaylord Perry....gone....Mantle....gone....Hornsby....gone.....Greenberg....gone.....Schmidt....gone. shall I keep going? Cheating in baseball has been going on since it's creation, let's stop with the childish notion of just the recent players cheated.

[@CharlesFlo305]

If Ortiz can get into the hall of fame, why is Fred Mcgriff not in the HOF???

[@sebastianhickerson6958]

Hey Fuzzy love the content! Any plans for making prospect videos?

[@CowboyUp1371]

I mean Big Papi definitely deserves to be a first ballot.

[@scottb.5413]

Fuzzy you are right on. These writers are lost. PS, what about Gaylord Perry? Like Rich Eisen said, put an asterik on their plaque. Bonds should be in yes.

[@vladimirlopez7840]

I like David Ortiz and have no problem with his election to the HOF but if he deserves election then so does Manny Ramirez who actually has better career numbers. Bonds should be in Clemens should be in and a host of other players should be in. Every year the BBHOF loses more and more credibility.

[@bravescountryyt985]

Hey Fuzzy. Keep up the grind

[@tc9499]

so many players have taking peds, from ww2 w greenies up till today. to only penalize a few guys who were better than everyone is ridiculous. Bonds grew up in clubhouses. His Godfather is Willie Mays. He knew everyone took stuff that's why he didn't give af

[@BensPitchingClips]

If ortiz makes the hof a year before, then Bonds would have made it this season. I think the vets commit will vote him in, but they missed on players like McGriff, Loftin, Matingly, Endmonds, Ect. so idk. Either way he should have been in this season.

[@greenfroppy212]

Idk how they look at McGriff and say “not a HOFer” especially with his stats

[@Truckerdaddy]

How Scott Rolen and Billy Wagner didn't make I don't understand.

[@Rey16q]

The writers should be voted off from voting from the HOF … they are destroying baseball history due to there personal vendetta ! HOF just lost their credibility !

[@jordan.273]

hey fuzzy i havent been here in a while but ur still my favorite youtuber

[@taraingalls3440]

I agree with you Fuzzy. They should be in the Hall of Fame.

[@themiddleagedgamer3503]

I disagree with your reasoning, but agree rocket and Bonds belong in HOF. The survey Papi tested positive for was supposed to be anonymous and the tests done at the time were not as good as they are now. They often got false positives as well.

[@rayrussell6258]

Not only that, but he was tested multiple times in his career, it was reported, and NONE of the other tests were positives.

[@honusdan]

It was a NY Times report that Papi was on a list of positives. When other sources checked the list Ortiz wasn't there. It was a fake news story drummed up by New York.

[@smashboogietheilladelic5740]

Pete Rose, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens need to be in there can’t forget my man Lou Whitaker too. Go Tigers!

[@guitarkoala5]

Schilling too!

[@markzuckergecko621]

Pete Rose agreed to a lifetime ban from MLB.

[@dongfreid582]

r maris

[@letsgostros1198]

I am going to cooperstown with my baseball team this summer to play

[@jimduggan8962]

Ortiz didn't really deny it. He said "I don't know. Sometimes we take things we don't really know what they are. I'll have to get back to you guys." and then everyone forget about it.

[@Wozrop]

You mean you think he took steroids accidentally, steroids are hard to get, the reason we knew of all of the guys were cause a lot of them went to BALCO to get them, plus Jose Canseco was personally introducing like half the league to his supplier, no shot that he 'accidentally' took something.

[@Ok-dm1ck]

He didn’t take them between 2004-2016 ( he was regularly tested and tested negative)

[@jimduggan8962]

@@Wozrop I never said I thought that or I believed what he said. That was Ortiz who said it. Thinking people are dumb and would believe that. He obviously did 'roids.

[@jimduggan8962]

@@Ok-dm1ck Most players have known ways to pass the drug tests. It's not that difficult to beat the test. I know you don't think Robinson Cano just suddenly started using years AFTER getting a 10yr/$240M contract. A lot of players, like A-Rod, were caught due to a disgruntled clinic employee leaking their names and what drugs they were receiving. A-Rod, Francisco Cervelli, Jesus Montero, and many other players were all caught because that employee released their records. It was not because any of them tested positive.

[@slicedthree80_43]

This is not the Hall Of Fame, this is the Hall of Nice Guys 🙂

[@Seabass-zy1bv]

At first I wasn’t for it but I changed my mind .. if they are gonna let Ortiz in they need to let bonds arod Clemens and others in

[@rayrussell6258]

You need to study the situation more thoroughly. The Ortiz history is far different than those other guys, who blatantly ignored rules, and have witnesses against them.

[@Seabass-zy1bv]

@@rayrussell6258 I respect everyone’s opinion but at the end of the day cheating is cheating they all cheated the Media just likes Ortiz . Again I’m cool with Ortiz being in the hall of fame because I believe it still takes skill to hit the ball but again the others need to be added as well

[@rayrussell6258]

@@Seabass-zy1bv you missed the point, he didn't cheat. The test was a single false-positive. He was exonerated years ago. He was tested multiple other times, and there were NO other positives. Media had nothing to do with it. He was clean. People do bulk up as they age, it is wrong to assume that simply because he got bigger, there had to be peds involved. I never took such things when I played the game. I went from 170 pounds in college ball to 235 pounds at 30 years old. I stayed in the game until I was 35, non-professionally. No drugs, no bulking up substances. I just worked out and kept eating. On the other hand, Bonds and Clemens and others flouted the rule, were caught red-handed, and there are witnesses to the violations. Multiple violations. There is no comparison in this. Ortiz goes in the HOF clean. The media is actually being a negative to him in this, not giving him some unearned pass because they LIKE HIM, as you claim.

[@bravedbl4594]

I think he still believes in leprechauns if he trusting a media source that favors papis story over bonds and Clemens.

[@rayrussell6258]

​@@bravedbl4594 It isn't clear who you are referring to, the video poster or Sorrentino at the top of the comments. If the story was just coming out NOW about the false-positive, I might be in that corner with questions. But I saw that info reported years ago, when it was in no one's benefit pro or con. Facts are facts. Ortiz was clean. Same criteria with Bonds and Clemens in their cases, facts are facts, and it's all in court records with witnesses under oath.

[@leonellis193]

Ok so here's the deal. I don't care about the PED conversation. Drugs or not you still have to hit and/or pitch the ball. Bond hit like no other, he walked more than anyone because pitchers feared Bonds. So screw steroids/PED's.

[@SukunaIsHim]

Bonds,McGwire,Sosa,Clemens,Rodriguez,palmiero,Sheffield,Ramirez,rose and Jackson should all be in the hall

[@H2Opschyz]

Sup fuzzy love your vid’s

[@SamtheBravesFan]

Well, the election process is largely in the hands of baseball writers, and they as a group can be quite finnicky and sometimes clique-y. The Veterans Committee also has this problem to an extent. The reason we have guys like Jim Bottomley and High Pockets Kelly as Hall of Famers is because of suspect lobbying by Frankie Frisch who was prominent on the VC at the time.

[@ryan2047]

MLB needs to be specific about what types of PEDs are being used to cause the suspension. Sometimes a player can be suspended for "PEDs" for using certain antibiotics for current injuries and are labeled as PEDs

[@Yellowfver783]

Open letter to anybody saying papi shouldn’t be in: David Ortiz tested “positive” for something. If you can tell me what he tested positive for exactly I will digress. You can’t. He could’ve tested positive for something that’s still legal. He could’ve tested positive for something that wasn’t legal then, and it EASILY could’ve been a false positive. He never had a chance to defend himself and he never tested positive again for the next 13 years.

[@mikelewis6204]

Believe it or not this helps the labor negotiations, they’re going to want to move on from this as quickly as possible.

[@courtenaymcalea9174]

Yo I get of my bus to watch fuzzy he is the best KZbinr ever

[@dandrefalcon3963]

Bonds, Clemens and Rose should be in the Hall Of Fame! Yeah I said it Pete also!

[@gavinwatson9677]

Hate being a tigers fan sometimes 😭😭

[@EruptTelevision]

The voting system needs to be changed simple and plain. Alot of deserving hall of famers missed out in the last 15 years.

[@RemyOrtiz]

Bonds and Clemens both deserve to be in the Hall, without a doubt. The argument is made over and over again that with Bonds, pre-Giants, was already a hall of famer. No one has won more MVPs than Bonds and No one has won more Cy Youngs than Clemens. They both helped to save baseball, beyond McGuire and Sosa; and Rey shops be in the Hall, too. Pete Rose is a no brainier, as well.

[@simoncohen9323]

Bonds was arguably barely a hall of famer before steroids so no he doesn't deserve to get it

[@anthonylong5870]

My heart jumped 300 beats and was filled with joy seeing how Bonds and Clemens got left out.....

[@eas_sae]

Y

[@studlee9355]

As a giant baseball fan, I do think that Clemens and Bonds deserve a spot. That being said I think the negative attention from their lies and general attitude is what cost them. I also coach an 11U team and the one thing I preach every practice and game is that the players who are remembered the most are the ones who stay hungry and humble. Confidence is fine but arrogance makes you look like an immature child. And A-Rod’s percentage was fine to me. He wasn’t as big of a superstar as people made him out to be.

[@mikepalumbo7781]

Youre insane. AROD was an absolute animal at the dish, in the field, and on the bases. The guy has 600 homeruns, and he was a shortstop. stop it with the semantics...

[@studlee9355]

@@mikepalumbo7781 I respect your opinion, but I have to say that when Varitek socked him it was probably one of the best things I’ve ever seen.

[@Wtfbroward]

Bonds career: hits 2935 (beats ortiz) RBI 1996 (beats ortiz) HR 762 (beats ortiz) WAR 162 7x mvp Look at everyone career numbers. HOF is supposed to be baseball career not baseball popularity.

[@simoncohen9323]

Now look at bonds without steroids Ortiz beats bonds

[@patrickmurphy3151]

Wasn't he a steroid user too. I believe Big Pappy tested positive bbn in 2003. Baseball and the HOF are a JOKE!!! I will never go to another game.

[@2kdegenerate708]

Lance Berkman has a career OPS of .943 and fell off the ballot after one year. Thats when I knew the HOF was wack. Billy Wagner should already be in too.

[@greenfroppy212]

Wagner should have easily been first ballot

[@alexisdominguez8214]

Both Bonds and Clemens deserved to be in HOF.

[@andrewgrady8467]

Let’s goooo !!!! Congrats to Big Papi

[@CoolAsCards]

That was the same test sammy tested pos on. They should all be on there. 1998 was the best year in baseball history besides 2016 but hey.. im a cubs fan

[@ItsTank_]

I’m happy for Big Papi, but I’m more surprised A-Rod only got 34%

[@hybridshadow_]

I think it’s because he got caught twice

[@matthewsimpson1268]

Also, it’s only his first year in the running. I still don’t think he makes it, mind you.

[@Theorpo]

A-Rod shouldn't be aloud in yes the rules were made for Clemens and Bonds but they weren't enforced. It's like those really old laws like "you can't put a donkey in a bathtub on a Tuesday" yes it is there, but why should it be reinforced. But imagine if something came out about how that causes a pandemic in some way. Now it is being enforced, breaking it not once but twice is a much bigger no-no. it's just how it works and you can't change itm

[@sammarcus8127]

Big papi!!!!

[@anthonytripp2251]

No Don Mattingly, no Thurman Munson But Harold Baines is in? Jim Leyland, a .506 manager is in?

[@rnobreaks4579]

Baseball explained the 2003 test tested for many things not just Steroids so they can inflate the number and initiate testing... You're vilifying him for something unproven.

[@theradlad3868]

bro u good how does passing aaron in home runs bury bonds AND clemens. Clemens is a pitcher.........

[@elcee3292]

I'm so conflicted with this. On the one hand, I know Clemens and Barry didn't need steroids to be HoFers. But I know there were players who struggled tduring this era that couldn't make a roster or get paid because they were competing against users. Probably a ton of guys doing it without steroids losing jobs and dreams to guys that were. So while I know Barry and Clemens were great, steroid use ruined so many honest people's chances at a fair shot

[@robertlop5]

Big question should do we have a double standard in Baseball? If you make rules you enforce them.

[@patrickbateman5088]

My only rebuttal is that the MLB only set this precedent in 1991 (banned substance) and in 2003 (actually started testing). How many players before 2003 in the hall of fame either took an illegal substance or steroids? The answer is we’ll never know because the MLB didn’t start testing until 2003. Under that notion I’d say that’s where the debate begins. And in my opinion steroids/cheating/whatever…. is too open-ended in decades past to eliminate these guys from making it now just because the MLB decided to finally put their foot down when it was convenient for them.

[@mitch5944]

Lou Whitaker isn't in the hall either as a 75 WAR second baseman

[@ronancullen9874]

It almost seems like it’s just a biased vote on wether you like a certain person or not. Big time Red Sox fan but in my opinion I feel like Bonds and Clemens should be going to the hall alongside Ortiz. The hall of fame isn’t there to showcase the nice respected players. It’s the BASEBALL HALL OF FAME, arguably the greatest player of all time and one of the greatest pitchers of all time aren’t in the hall because they have bad blood and aren’t well respected. In my opinion that should not matter one bit. The Baseball Hall of Fame is somewhere that should showcase the greatest players of all time. The people who changed the way the game is played and brought fans to the stadium with their talent. The voters are outdated and don’t understand todays concept of baseball.

[@Xenlacasa45]

Character and integrity are requirements to get in which bonds had none of he was a nasty person. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

[@dinonuggets273]

Papi the GOAT

[@hallbags7444]

Some voters don't even cast one vote. Such a floored system.

[@nickc4257]

Or how Larry Walker barely scrapped in? Nothing about the hall makes sense, so many missing players

[@Ares14]

The Hall of Guys who were nice to the press.

[@turkspulls9365]

I’m a Padres fan and hate Barry Bonds. But I believe he deserves to be in the HOF for what he meant to baseball for so long. Love or hate Bonds you wanted to see him play. And everyone knows his name. The writers shouldn’t decide who gets in the HOF. The stats should speak for themselves. No one cried about tiger woods cheating when he had laser eye surgery to help his vision. Everyone was juicing back then so where was the competitive advantage?

[@joemixon834]

Also Rolen Andruw and Helton should be in the HOF

[@MikeJr9284]

Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens had Hall of Fame resumes pre steroid use, so why would they have to use steroids in first place? I’m happy both Bonds and Clemens aren’t in the Hall of Fame.

[@hybridshadow_]

Yes agreed couldn’t have said it any better 👏🏻

[@josecollado7960]

I agree with you on most of your points except on the Bud Selig comment. You have to hear both sides of the story on this matter. As you know the league cannot enforce anything on players without going through negotiations with the players association (PA) In the 90’s MLB was actively pursuing PED testing; however, the PA kept protecting the players and telling MLB to back down. One of the main issues during the lockout in 94. Therefore, we should not accuse Selig and MLB of exploiting the steroid era to their advantage. It’s an unfair assessment. I love the players; but, steroids benefit their pocket just as much.

[@acescruising]

you will have plenty of this summer trying to figure out while the lockout goes on and on.

[@nathanhansen1846]

Good for big Pappi tho ❤️

[@2short1968]

Congratulations to "Big Papi" 🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴#truschoolsports

[@nicogiampietro4780]

Let’s go big papi ⚾️!!!!

[@TheManny717]

I'm a hypocrite for saying this: that I don't want wife beaters to get in the hall, but we already have one named Babe Ruth.

[@rocknrallsoul94rockero4]

Remember Roberto Alomar Pedro Martinez Ivan Rodriguez and Adrian Beltre all failed the 03 test

[@biglar769]

Ok so lets not forget that in the 2000 world series Clemans threw the barral of a broken bat at Mike Piazza. That unsportsmen like conduct should have removed him from baseball. Just saying!

[@honusdan]

Ugh...Ortiz didn't test positive. NY times said his name was on a lists of positive tests...but it wasn't.

[@minerzach1236]

Congratulations 🍾 David Ortiz

[@zmoney9701]

A Rod tested positive 2.

[@nasahistorian8639]

Go Papi, go sox

[@louiedephillips5156]

It is a popularity test amongst writers. Hall is stupid.

[@Wtfbroward]

Ortiz had a career .286/.380/.552 slash, a 141 OPS+, 541 home runs (17th all-time), 632 doubles (12th all-time), 1,768 RBIs (23rd all-time), 2,472 hits Barry Bonds’ numbers are 10x better across the board career wise.

[@simoncohen9323]

Almost like one took steroids one didn't

[@ElkWolfvHymn]

@@simoncohen9323 it's more like one was a waaaay better ballplayer than the other one.

[@simoncohen9323]

@@ElkWolfvHymn well steroids will do that to a player

[@simoncohen9323]

@@ElkWolfvHymn cheating does that

[@ElkWolfvHymn]

@@simoncohen9323 Bonds was always a better ballplayer steriods or not