THE BATMAN: Adapting The Rogues Gallery Villains - COURT OF OWLS

[@VanBeany]

I’m telling you Boba. I feel it in my bones that the court would be perfect for this Batman. The whole Gotham Renewal project would very much ruffle the court’s feathers…. They don’t like change in their city. They will be very easily adapted for the grounded telling Reeve’s has gone with. I’m not going to let go of Alfred mentioning that he was in the circus and how he is supposed to protect the Waynes. Given the court’s connection to Haly’s circus for recruiting child performers..oh man… I’ll be *so* disappointed if I’m wrong. How bad ass would it be if Alfred was a former Talon in this world and taught Bruce how to fight??? Love it.

[@TheTomster09]

man i’m so excited for the set photos, casting, trailers and eventually the movie! 🦇

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

Personally, I would 100% go for the Court of Owls, and would honestly be surprised if Matt Reeves doesn't go that direction. Where you said it would be repetitive, I think it would be naturally building upon the foundation that was laid. The first movie was about the Riddler turning Batman's focus from street-level crime to higher corruption, and if the 2nd movie prominently features Bruce developing his public persona and stepping into the head of his own company, then he may find that his own company is being controlled by others that don't want him taking it back, which eventually leads to him uncovering the powers behind it.

[@UmisTsukishiro00]

I think The Court is best used in part three as one half of the grand finale antagonistic force. The other half is Joker. Order and Chaos go to war with Batman and Gotham caught in the middle. Giving Joker a different antithesis makes it easier to understand he sees Bats more as a kindred spirit than a nemesis.

[@The_Presbyterian]

Finally a video about the court so many people are talking about it but never really diving deep into it except for you. keep up the great work!

[@MandyMan24]

I think a grounded Man-Bat is possible. Scrap the actual physical mutation part and just have Langstrom’s mind transform into that of a monstrous bat. Sort of like a Jekyll/Hyde situation or the Monster of the Id from Forbidden Planet. To look the part, Langstrom in his Man-Bat personality could have his own gruesome home-made costume. Inspiration could be taken from other fictional serial killers who had some sort of costume/skin suit involved in their crimes like Leatherface. Doing this still maintains Man-Bat as a dark and animalistic counterpart to Batman. Based on Curt Connors trying to heal the crippled, Langstrom was trying to help blind and deaf people (his family have genetic predisposition to these issues) by giving them better sonar-like hearing. The serum seemingly works, gifting Langstrom with a crude form of echolocation. However, he also starts behaving like a bat and believing he’s part bat part man, even crafting a bat costume out of human/animal skins.

[@jaylenjayden9305]

I agree with this

[@thewatcher9500]

Court of owls should be Pattinson's end game

[@ComicBookDude2005]

No It should be on Part 8

[@marktheshark7588]

Agreed.For the sequel.They should give hints of it.But save the full reveal of them for the third film.

[@zachp3928]

They hinted at Hush, my favorite story. That should be part 2-leading up to Court Of Owls....imo of course

[@Ivan-df2gf]

Yes & Graysons ties to them

[@jaylenjayden9305]

Fax

[@thewatcher9500]

I can't wait for the batman 2 🔥

[@ComicBookDude2005]

Mr Freeze and the court of owls should be a part of the Batman part 3 I rather get Riddler return for one more round

[@marktheshark7588]

Same here🔥

[@OVERVOID12]

I can't wait for 1. Superman 2025 2. The batman 2026

[@marcusyates3044]

DC Animated Movie Universe's Court of Owls: "Beware the Court of Owls that watches all the time. Gazing from the shadows behind cement and lime. They see you at your hearth, they see you in your bed. Beware, take care! Or they will send a Talon for your head!" Gotham HAS had a bad history with owls

[@Myrrhkuri]

I mean with Batman its always about dealing with "corruption" in Gotham...would be cool to use Court of Owls and them maybe sending "messages" to Batman trying to control him, while he is dealing with the other big bad of part 2, and then maybe deeper into them in part 3 finding the ties between the Wayne family and Court of Owls..

[@ComicBookDude2005]

I mean the court if owls is a good choice but i wanna see Mr Freeze on the big screen for the first time in the 20th century

[@gregarcher8177]

Exactly what I want too🙏👍👍

[@rebel2191]

Fax

[@zachp3928]

Don't think it would be tough to do a grounded version? Gotham TV series did decent, I suppose

[@firstlast9846]

@zachp3928 Nobody wants to see a grounded Mr Freeze., it’s either blue man in mech suit or bust 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@zachp3928]

@@firstlast9846 my sentiments exactly lol

[@scelonferdi]

One thing they could do with the court, is them originally only being a spooky childrens story, but a part of Gotham's elite using them as inspiration for their own little cabal. Those would be only a few decades old, maybe a century and operate as this secret club similar to the court in the comics.

[@brucelau2023]

truly cannot wait for the Batman 2, even tho it's only a couple years away but once we get the set photos, casting and the teaser, it's going to be quite a wild ride for us, just like how we were in 2022 watching the first Matt Reeves Batman

[@donnerbohne7695]

This Voiceover at the beginning of the Video made me so excited for Part II cause it will probably start the same way as part I

[@kingroyale7110]

The city streets are crowded for the holidays ❤

[@BruceWayne-qj6om]

“The city streets are crowded for the holiday”

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

Bro why do we have to wait 2 years before the film releases 😭😭😭 Edit:I personally don't want the Court of Owls, I want a different villain, but I mean they could work I guess. For the most part however, I agreed with everything in the video.

[@KEEF22]

I had the same thoughts as you, court of owls is a lot to do especially in just one movie - but now the film is going to be a two parter - court of owls could happen as they can really get into the whole deep story of it all across two films

[@ΒασιλειοςΒασιλειαδης-ψ4δ]

In the movie,when batman talks with the riddler in arkham,at one point(2h18m-19m),right before edward gets up,batman's face with the mask looks like an owl,as targeted by the camera in that perticular angle.

[@davidchittick6783]

I think Hugo Strange should be the main antagonist for part 2 & save the Court Of Owls for the DCU Batman.

[@nocturnalguardian]

That opening was SICK! Did you do that?

[@BobaTalks]

Thank you, I thought it would be fun haha. I did indeed! 🙂

[@goschannel8653]

It seems the court are going to play a part in part 2 no matter what. I think the best route if Reeves does want to focus on them is to use a completely separate villain in p2, maybe a freeze, ivy, prof pyg whatever he wants. While Batman is tackling this villain the court are always present, maybe through the Penguins story line, there could be some shady meetings between Oz and the court for example. This gives a good springboard for Matt to develop the courts story (potentially in a HBO show) but at least in p3, making them the main villain. Love all the videos too Boba ♥

[@Hojotoho.Yall504]

9:25 I hope that actor chimes in like “excuse me, that’s my face” lol

[@Joshcoshbagosh]

I think it would be great. People always say they should do it in the DCU instead because of the fantasy elements and bat family, but you can apply that to a lot of famous stories. I don't really care that much about the zombie talons or the bat family's presence in that story personally, and honestly I think a new interpretation of the Court could be really interesting and exactly what that villain needs tbh.

[@markburdeos9489]

I'd rather have the Court of Owls in prime DCU. but I'd still would love too see them Pattinson's films

[@Danielstagg755]

It would be cool if you could talk about how mad hatter could fit in matt reeves batverse in another video in the future.

[@omarcarlos537]

I see him as a heavens gate type of cult leader

[@billymoore7182]

That's the Beauty of Television. You can be introduced to many more villians under the same title, vs a movie where you might be introduced to maybe one or two.

[@JacianGonzalez]

I think the court of owls should be like marvels hydra unpredictable, In the shadows and characters possibly secretly members

[@defftony]

I want a deeper level of worlds greatest detective, not look how different from part one I can be. At least not thematically. I want them to go more ham on the detective element, and court of owls would allow for greater layers of detective work.

[@DisasterMaggot]

I would probably do Hugo Strange or Professor Pyg for part 2.

[@kaleirrion]

Haha, I loved the intro! I seriously think your future podcast could have an audio drama-like segment with voice actors and sound effects and whatnot. You could write the script and voice Bruce and bring in some other friends do to other roles. Maybe it could be just a five minute segment or something, but it would be really fun. In any case, thanks for this video. I do agree about the Court. It would be re-treading the same themes. I would vastly prefer a new, grounded spin on a classic rogues' gallery villain rather than the Court, and I actually do like the Court!

[@BobaTalks]

Thank you very much! And hahaha that's a great idea 😂

[@billymoore7182]

The Court of Owls were great in the Gotham TV series. So to see them in The Batman 2 would be interesting. I would also like to see other villians like Clayface and maybe even Mr. Freeze.

[@Hojotoho.Yall504]

Court of Owls also would work if they don’t belabor the corruption theme that’s already been addressed, like as Bruce is grappling with his family’s imperfect past (maybe Thomas was in the Court for example), but they don’t have to take up too much screen time to make a significant impact.

[@adamabegg53]

I agree with a lot of your reasoning, Boba. I'm still sticking to my guns and hoping that Mad Hatter will be the main villain in the second movie. Great vid. Keep up the good work

[@thescarletandgrey2505]

Always a great discussion you have here, Boba thanks

[@JD_1776]

Ohhhh this is the requested video you teased!! I love this idea although I don’t think they will end up ever doing it. My fan goggles are too powerful in this case 💀

[@marktheshark7588]

The video I was waiting on.But Boba,This might be off topic.But have you heard anything latest about the Cape Crusader series at Amazon Prime?

[@omarcarlos537]

Please do mad hatter next I see him as a heavens gate like cult leader and I think sharlto Copley should play him

[@dude5636]

Imagine the court are the villains for the Batman Brave and the bold sequel and they end up bringing Jason back.

[@ruknasty1]

Batman is around 36 when he finds out about the court of owls. Plus he's already met most of the rogues gallery by then

[@shkarzakaria2108]

this is an elseworld

[@iainriley8819]

It would give you a chance to write Grundy into the story. Using the court of owl's back story and slaughter swamp to bring in part 3, Minor bad guy and the talon's as the real bad guy in the story

[@Reese_Owens]

I have very conflicted feelings about it. For me it’s like half of me wants to see it, but then the other half doesn’t want to see it. But I think I can trust Matt Reeves with pretty much anything at this point.

[@davidlowe3793]

I would love to get to see the court in the next movie … I feel like that’s right in Matt Reeves’s court lol … with how he writes .

[@ryancurrul7208]

Great video Boba! I've been making a BATGIRL script that's simply titled "THE BATGIRL" that's the vain of "THE BATMAN". I'm gathering numerous ideas when it comes to the suit, gadgets and the villains.

[@ChuckWCoulter]

Truly enjoyed. I re-watched Reeves's two planet/apes entries, masterpieces. I trust the fellow. I think, somewhere, today even, Isabella Merced is in Hawkgirl gear in a harness?

[@jeremykoepplin1587]

I really want to know what headphones boba has. I want to get some.

[@jerryjanik480]

I might be the only one that liked Gotham Knights and the court of owl it's just a great story line

[@paulwright1814]

i’ve always loved Batman’s out-there, monstrous villains. A movie called something like The Batman Part II: Monsters with one or more villains like Killer Croc, Clayface, Man-Bat, or Solomon Grundy would be really cool

[@jaylenjayden9305]

I made a pitch like that with Hugo strange as the main antagonist creating monster men

[@paulwright1814]

@@jaylenjayden9305 That would be sick! I’d love something like that.

[@robertcramer6323]

Bro I really thought that was batman great work Boba huge fan of work and extremely happy you made more villian gallery

[@JazzyJeffRealTalk]

I don’t want back to back corruption stories. Save court of owls for Part 3. Part 2 should be a more physically imposing villain or someone that psychologically messes with Batman

[@jacobfaser6636]

I think if the whole trilogy is good and if Reeves wanted to… they should make a two part court of owls movie

[@morgie39]

Court of Owls could be an end game reveal but I think that's the only way it works.

[@keshaponso2034]

I can't see it working with an early Batman. The point about the COO I'd that they've operated for centuries, including the Bat Family's reign. COO mean nothing if Batman finds out about them in his first 15 years as a crime fighter. The point is that the Bat Fanily have no inkling they exist. That's what makes them formidable and scary.

[@morgie39]

@keshaponso2034 yah I'm not supportive of them being in the trilogy. They could maybe hint to the court but never really develop them but fans would probably be even more upset about that.

[@keithspringston9283]

Bring on the court of owls in the batman 2. I loved the comic and I'm not even that big of a comic book fan.

[@S.A.N.503]

I'm down for whatever Matt Reeves wants to do. If that's the Court Of Owls, fine. If not, and he wants to do Joker, fine. I honestly don't give a shit. I trust his vision 100% and trust that he would think of all of these kinds of things before deciding on a villain and putting pen to paper. Those are my honest feelings.

[@dylwithm3]

It’s just like eventually we have to see joker right? Like why use such a big actor like Barry Keoghan for a role we’d never see him actually explore

[@LP92LEO]

I feel sorry for the actor/extra who was mis identified as looking like an owl 😢. Poor guy lol

[@TheBombayMasterTony]

You make valid points, Boba.

[@Moyeeshen2304]

I personally think Courts of Owls is a little bit too huge for one single movie. It may need some build up in the second movie.

[@Chilidolff44]

Old school clayface and hush in part 2. Then major breakout at Arkham in part 3 with joker using the riddlers intelligence to his advantage and then killing him. Then joker joining up with psychos like calendar man and professor pig to cause major havoc and go up against the penguins new regime. With catwoman having to help batman and maybe Robin joining in to save gotham. Just a thought??😁🦇🦇💯

[@Luke_the_platypus]

I honestly don’t get peoples disdain for having the joker in Pattinsons Batman. I promise in 5 years time people would be talking about how much of a missed opportunity it was to not have Batman go against his most infamous rogue. My top picks for villains would have to be Mr freeze in part 2 Joker/scarecrow part 3 I would love the court and firefly too but too many choices to pick from.

[@comixof2morrow]

It should be The Batman 3 and it should have 2 parts.

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

La corte debe ser el villano final de la trilogía de gunn Deja que el joker y sus amigos sean los de la trilogía de Pattinson

[@Jeffreyderksen911]

Great video boba as always

[@TheHayabusa1604]

I would love to see sewer king or rat catcher in reeves universe, those characters have that kind of vibe for this universe, as for court of owls, im one of the fans against the idea, they’re over exposed imo

[@maskedassassinsclan1185]

I would go for a victor zas murder mystery batman. Being to me it seems that Batman has won the hearts and minds of the people of Gotham. Where you could still bring in Harvey Dent, penguin Scarecrow and one more rouges villain. (Death stroke) Reason for me wanting scarecrow now is because I want to Batman to be a wanted man by the police. So, somehow scarecrow confuses Batman and he is framed for a murder of a prominent figure or a witness.

[@jeremyfoote8638]

court of owls should be in part 3....and the very end of pt 2

[@keshaponso2034]

I do not see how Court of Owls works with an early Batman. The only way they have impact, is if they exsist with a well established Batman and Bat Family? I don't know, I think it will be as dumb as Superman facing Doomsday in his 2nd movie. It's a waste of the Court of Owls.

[@LoganBradbury-yt1lj]

I remember theorising this never since the first trailer where we thought the guy on the GCPD stairs had a court of owls mask but we realised that it was only just a white blur on someone’s face (Edit) I typed that in before I watched the video

[@LoganBradbury-yt1lj]

Anyways I think it would be cool to here some hints of them to having statues of them like in Arkham Origins and Bruce’s farther telling him it before bed when he was a kid or maybe news papers saying there are random assassinations relating to bird feathers

[@iskandarishak1457]

Court of owls is a batfamily problem, it's not something batman can handle alone

[@ojastudio]

Part 2: Batman trapped and fight for survival in and by all Arkham's villains leaded by JOKER and RIDDLER "your place is here with us just like your mom was Bruce Wayne"; Part 3: Court of Owls big boss of the trilogie, unified with all the criminals with new reveals of wayne's dynasty maybe involved in (and probably the beginning of the batfamilly which I would prefer more inside the DCU, or never would be preferable personnaly)

[@zezeti2246]

Ive heard Hugo will be in part 2

[@Reacher0613]

Limiting it to a trilogy is really doing a disservice to Batman, unless they do some Bat Family movies in between. With 3 movies right when you get going its about end. He is to big of a character with to extensive of a story to be limited like that. To do Batman justice he really needs 5-6 movies to tell a really good long story

[@Phantomiam]

Honestly I think the court of owls should be saved for the DCU

[@jaylenjayden9305]

Sounds perfect for battinson tho If they use the court in the dcu I could see them as nightwing villains

[@Tom-bq7eb]

What if gun as plans for the court of owls because it could fit in soo much in dcu

[@BobaTalks]

That would take them out of the picture indeed

[@MisterW99]

Or DCU can have League of Shadows since Damian Wayne is confirmed. Reeves can get Court of Owls

[@Tom-bq7eb]

@@MisterW99 you do know the league of shadow and court of owls are different and also have different vision in fact having the court of owls and league of assassins is cool because we could get a movie that involves a conflict between them like in Gotham knights so they are different organisations not the same

[@MisterW99]

@@Tom-bq7eb yes they are different. That’s why separating them in DCU/Reeves universe works. But I get what you are saying

[@KurseDHero]

There’s an Ivy video of this? Next watch

[@JohannesRundstrom]

I can't wait for The Batman 2. In the mean time we have The Penguin we can feast on!🤩

[@theofficial_bigjose9165]

Still want a saga. Let the other villians shine let the court of owls be like thanos in the background but building up showing that they have been there this whole time and then introduced him in like the fourth or fifth

[@theofficial_bigjose9165]

Them*

[@davidking9729]

I want scar face in the sequel

[@Moonking_Is_Back]

Boba I’m still not a member. 😭😭😭

[@matthewtapia1669]

the court of owls would be a good idea if matt reaves was doing 6 movies. the batman part 3 final scene could be Bruce and Alfred going to the circus and we see the flying Greyson's die and camera zooms in on a child dick Greyson. the batman part 4 could have a 6-month time jump and Bruce already adopted dick Greyson. dr Hugo strange could be the main villain of the movie and he is the new head of psychology at Arkham since the old one could have died in the batman part 3 by joker. dr Hugo strange could be creating his mutants by using Arkham patients at first but starts to kidnap street orphans to begin his mutants. the court of owls could be teased in a scene in the movie. the batman part 5 could have scarecrow be the villain but talon would be a antagonist setting up the court of owls as the main Villan of part 6 the final movie. dick Greyson's family tree could be explored in parts 4 through 6 with his grandfather being a talon in the past. the main talon we see in the batman part 5 could be dick Greyson's grandfather or his clone but time will tell. we could see similar to the comics Bruce go to the sewers and try to locate their base but gets drugged and goes through there maze and we see the giant owl statue in the batman part 6. the end of the batman part 6 could be open ended with us to determine if the court of owls is gone or just a myth as is told like the comics. idk just a idea .

[@DogFather69]

I would like to see Deathstroke explored more as a Batman villain. You could even go out on a limb and incorporate him into the Court of Owls as their ultimate assassin.

[@patrickwoods1521]

I love The Batman, it’s my favorite Batman movie. I have my reasons why I think it’s the best Batman movie if you want to know just reply to my comment. I wouldn’t change anything about the movie, but if I had made the movie it would’ve been a trilogy based off the City and the Court of Owls

[@littlemiss_76]

I would like to see the court and I do agree with Boba if we had more time in thd Reeve verse then sure and until the recent turn off DC, the court was used quite a bit. Maybe they can be apart of thr DCU Batman family movies and spin-offs. 😀

[@callmejacob3234]

Not gonna lie I would prefer Mr. Freeze over The Court of Owls. Mr. Freeze is one of the best Batman villains ever. He's the only time a tragic villain was done right. We are in desperate need of a live action Heart of Ice one of the best Batman stories ever.

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

How are they going to do undead ninjas in a grounded-in-reality world?

[@JD_1776]

im back i loved this video

[@KeijiMaeda86]

Robert should throw his weight as actor/celebrity and get Court of Owls to be adapted. It's soooo good. Enough with joker, twoface, etc... We got plenty of movies with them. Court of Owls would fit so much better with the vibe of The Batman.

[@yoboimichproductionsinc.2948]

Aye boba you gonna talk about dead boy detectives?

[@MidgardThunder]

Here's an Easter egg no else knows . Riddler actually works for the Court of Owls to eliminate Falcone and distact Batman. Says a reialble source 🦉

[@alexwilliams7640]

Mattresses take the court of owls and keep them in the dark and in the shadow don't bring them out in the light as that would be a bad gimmick and stuff

[@dorianford6227]

I highly doubt they use the court of owls sadly

[@brickity1447]

Kinda unrelated, but I genuinely wouldn't mind if we never see Joker in the Pattison trilogy.

[@jeremyfoote8638]

Here is what want. a serial killer is terrorizing Gotham whom the press has named Mr Freeze because he freezes his victims. Batman figures out a connection to all the victims. end part 2 on a cliffhanger with Batman captured by the court of owls and Mr. freeze was a paid assassin for the COO

[@jeremyfoote8638]

part 3 the COO keeps Batman imprisoned and they set Joker free and force Batsy to watch the chaos and destruction of Gotham via Freeze and Joker. Catwoman comes back wondering where Batman is. Not sure where it would go from there lol probably a part 4

[@Assburgerstv466]

idk i rather see the court in the brave and bold series just bc i cant see pattinson fighting actual trained undead assassins by himself yeah he can take down 1 maybe 2 talons ....its still his early years this probaby year 3 to 5 will take place...now b&b already has a batfam team and probably better high tech to make a bat wraith robot and also the court was made for barbatos the bat god the 5 metals dark multiverse etc i think matt reeves is just doing great detective stories no metas no magic no aliens like clayface freeze two face croc can exist but having ras al ghul and court will just make it more fantasy than a thriller....we can say they just need 1 talon not a whole army in the sequel and that talon is tw jr ok cool that be a nice detective thriller...but the whole city of the owls was the bat fam first time we see them team up crossover in new 52 separately take each talon down and the bat armor robot get out of my house! i just cant see patinson tone voice doing it right

[@JasonBailey-w7i]

Please have a new cowl

[@Tshegg08]

Tay-lawn?

[@LegendRed7]

Im Irish we've had some good Irish Batman villians but not sure i was feeling Barry Keoghans joker tbh but loving Colin as Penguin.

[@lilstupidahhboy5155]

Waddup boba!

[@BobaTalks]

Hey :D

[@littlemiss_76]

Yes but the Matt Reeves trilogy does not have the time, maybe a spin-off tv series.

[@Kidred-ys2vp]

I heard Robert pattinson was interesting in the court of owls.

[@alejandrovinabal4312]

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