The Battle Pass Should Have Lootboxes - OW2 Hot Takes #13

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[@jimmyguimont-gosselin5204]

It's not the lootboxes model that was so good, it was getting a free one every level! You could get so much without spending

[@moatija62]

Honestly Battle Pass having loot boxes sounds like something so oddly chaotic that I'm 100% up for it

[@noname-hf9ty]

Apex: 👀

[@athena3177]

Its kinda what destiny does. Every so often you get a lootbox and once you max out the pass you get a box every 5? levels after

[@FlareToga76]

sadly, the EU's rulings on loot boxes kinda forced their hand

[@guywithopinion]

Rocket league already does this

[@akai_shuichi_x]

I like this, and it shouldn't be a problem for EU laws as long as lootboxes are something free on the battle pass, and not something you can pay for separately.

[@Bken96]

Hot take: at this point I want a 9v9 casual mode. Closer to what tf2 is. Just a way to have fun and have a bunch of crazy interactions all the time in a relatively stress free environment where everyone’s individual impact is lessened. I’m sick of the sweat and toxicity all the time every single game from both teams. So I think this would be a blast

[@StarCrow77Gaming]

I think doomfist should get a ultimate that does damage

[@RonaldMcDonald40]

A tank being able to kill something 😳

[@flayminator8049]

Youre joking right can you imagine the support players on their broken ass heroes complaining?​@@RonaldMcDonald40

[@momdad1818]

Doom mains try not to be whiny

[@StarCrow77Gaming]

@@momdad1818 well thats not going too happen we got the most bugs and are ult does less damage then a dead rat

[@StarCrow77Gaming]

@@flayminator8049 for real support are just better dps

[@LetsTakeWalk]

We already have Torb's turrets for a triggerbot.

[@willus259]

Also Ramattra's ult which is basically a moving turret that locks onto multiple targets

[@ebhaenger8246]

Clarification for the term: a trigerbot is a cheat that shoots the second you croshair is on a target.

[@Old.ManYaoi]

Mauga (as of early January 2024) isn’t broken by himself. He’s only in the meta due to the over abundance of healing. If you don’t have a healer (like Ana) that can juice him up constantly he’s dead almost instantly because of his insane hit box. I think people who are complaining about Mauga are over looking the root cause of the issue (supports). The same thing happened with Orisa. When the tanks get nerfed due to the over abundance of healing, it makes the tanks horrible to play because you can’t do anything.

[@traumatized_otaku]

They aren’t saying bring back buyable loot boxes. They just want to have it in the battlepass. Maybe some in the free pass and some in the premium pass. And if the argument is you’re paying money to buy the premium pass for the extra lootboxes, well you also get premium skins and a mythical skin which seems like a great purchase instead of just some loot boxes.

[@futcamisas_store]

HOT TAKE: loot boxes weren't even that bad. I get that loot boxes are more related to a gambling side rather than a appropriate reward for playing the game BUT I still think it worked better than season normal pass because you could get some insane good skins in any loot box and if you play a little you would almost always get a couple boxes and you just can't have the same good itens with only the free season pass which sucks. (I know you could buy loot boxes too but you could pull some really good loot still without buying it)

[@skarloeythomas5172]

no one really hates loot boxes let’s be real. the shop, sure, but it’s exciting getting that nebulous reward every level, giving you that little something to do and hope for the best. you can save up credits for what you want or get skins you never knew you wanted, it might prompt playing new heroes. the battle pass means everyone gets the same skins, so too for twitch drops. the only ability to be aesthetically unique comes with spending hundreds on the shop.

[@callinar]

Best thing about loot boxes was how it filled up voice lines, sprays, etc. There's no way I'm spending credits or coins on them. Best thing about no loot boxes, is I get to choose what I want. Now I know what I'm spending when a skin comes out and I can make that decision. No justification for making store skins purchasable with coins only though. Charge more in credits if you need to (which they do in some instances).

[@AwesomeWookiee]

Hot Take: Symmetra has always been evolving, but backwards. She should have turned into a support that ramps up her old lock on beam against enemies and increases the heal or damage when she does so. Then she can hand out shields again, her turrets could be her main source of damage, and she could have her utility teleport. Alternatively, maybe she could turn her teams health INTO regenerating shields as an Ult? Right now she's a weird hodgepodge of utility features that feels like a support cosplaying as DPS. And her whole kit was meant to be designed around hard light, but now she's the laser person.

[@Omnicron800]

Honestly kinda felt that way since her first rework lol she’s always been an either really niche, or cheesy or inconsistent dps. If they just converted her turrets to heal Allie’s for like ten five health a second give her a healing ability I feel shed make a much more functional support so much more easily even with those poorly thought out ideas then whatever the hell she’s supposed to be now.

[@jrodd13]

Hot take: Mei should be a Tank alongside Sym being a support. If you think about it they're off role DPS Mei is literally a tank with higher damage and less health, switch her over lol

[@BuffGenji]

Doom’s power block should work like a parry attack, so using it to block Ana’s sleep, orisa’s javelin or sigma’s rock should end the power block, but NOT put him on the ground. I think if it charged his punch fully it would be too strong, maybe just give the normal amount and charge it if you blocked more earlier. Maybe making it also stop the hack effect from happening, just ending the block would be nice. But then give him a compensating nerf somewhere, maybe make power block last less long, take more to power up, or anything else in his kit

[@YourBlackLocal]

No because De-sync is terrible… it would not work most of the time.

[@ROBAKABIGPAPA]

Also; I find it funny that all the maps you find difficult to take are all the maps with extremely long sight lines. I'm sure there's no correlation there 😅😅

[@endless_del]

shambali doesnt really have that tbf

[@Triax1211]

I really like Flashpoint personally. It's nice to get into little mini team fights throughout the maps

[@sawah765]

they should make new push maps that are more bearable for the mobility-challenged heroes. New queen street and Colosseo both have areas where you must push into dorado-style oppressive high ground and its difficult for heroes without good mobility. Esperanca doesn't have it as bad, but mid-game they can set up on the starting area and the alternate path to get to high ground is so far away. I feel like the under-bridge area should lead back to the middle mega pack area without sightlines from the high ground

[@viciousoz4188]

I will always prefer loot boxes simply because of bragging rights. It's a lot less satisfying to have a "high-tier" skin if EVERYONE has it. Having something actually rare is a lot more cooler. A game like COD Infinite Warfare and MW Remastered did it perfectly that you'd get salvage after opening a box, so even if you never opened what you wanted, you'd eventually be able to buy it with enough salvage.

[@shadow8767]

i think the issue people have with not getting the new content and want lootboxes back is that, even with the free coins, it takes 4 or 6 months of playing to get 1 skin. non-recolor skins are usually 1000 or 1600 coins. in the old lootbox system, you got credits for recycled items, but you also got a lot of free boxes to open. Daily wins as flex, arcade modes, leveling up, etc. Now it's complete 9 weekly challenges, then wait another week, and repeat for 4 or 6 months. by that time, so many new skins have already come out. you're point about "free skins" in the battlepass is kind of a moot point. you get like 1 for free. the rest you have to pay for. and it still takes a couple months of playing to buy 1 battlepass, and by that time the new BP came out already and you missed out. So it becomes a lot of picking and choosing, and hope that the next BP doesn't have better skins. If the BP also gave some coins (not enough so the BP is completely free every season), then maybe it wouldn't feel like Blizzard doesn't care about F2P players.

[@Pes._]

Hes sucking blizzards contract you cant agrue with "yes. but ill lie to his face for money"

[@SkylarKittyMusic]

I thought this too, it was a really poor take from KarQ, The game flat out does not give you enough premium currency by playing the game for how much skins go for in the store and how frequently they come out. IMO they should have added the premium currency to the battle pass, not the free credits, those should be what you get for doing weeklies. The bigger issue is that the Battle Pass costs 1000 coins, and if you completed all of your weekly challenges in a season, you wouldn't even be at half that in coins earned. So the game is constantly forcing you to spend money by design and it's disgusting to see that behaviour defended by anyone.

[@AxShawn]

Loot boxes can work the same way weekly coins work or make them seasonal and limit them to a certain amount, just don't make them purchasable they're one thing in OW that definitely should be earned but if you do make them purchaseable their needs to be a seasonal/weekly limit.

[@BlackRaveBow]

I pictured a ball parry attack just being a cartoon boxing glove spring out of him.

[@DapimpBDSD]

The take about balancing certain heros every season, is literally what they are currently doing ie controlling the meta to a degree.

[@remulas13]

I maybe spent money on loot boxes once during OW1 but i loved them cause im lazy and dont care too much for the skins but enjoy them passively. It was just nice to get something tangible for playing the game. I know i can still go buy stuff but that takes time and effort lol, i just wanna play

[@clyde1500]

"give dps the support passive" in a little over a week that take aged amazingly. and blizzard did you one better.

[@redeyedcat9340]

11:50 this is gonna age well

[@TheRealHypervizor]

I said this in an Emongg vid but I think it'd be cool to play payload/hybrid maps in the opposite direction. That would add some flavor to the game with minimal effort compared to a new map. Maybe as a side filler project between new map releases. Probably only take 1 person from the dev team to work on that. If MS gives them more people, I'd also like to see alternate paths on these same maps or at least the maps that were used for PVE content which have extra space.

[@psyjinx]

A comic should drop where Doomfist, Roadhog, and Junkrat are sorry for their crimes and decide to put everything back the way it was, allowing for an alternate reality plot where it's okay to go backwards in these maps.

[@averyterribleperson5292]

Ah i like it, very racing-game-esque, make them play backwards and make them night time or sunset instead of bright daylight

[@kennyalexander4471]

i agree gacha loot boxes are predatory, but if you cant buy them with real money or free currency its fine, just give like one box every level after you finish the season pass rather than titles

[@XZ-ws2ed]

"Pharah should take fall damage" Ngl I just imagine pharah falling doing Peter griffin death position started laughing to hard

[@felipejuscele6879]

Hot take: the community cannot handle supports that are too impactful. No one complain about abilities that can wipe out an entire team with a press of a button, but everyone freaks out if a support has the power to save the entire team in opposite. Even that this in general demands a better planning, more timing and smarter positioning.

[@LumaSloth]

Still not as powerful as *_whole rez_* (team rez)

[@harunk2001]

Already wrote this on the previous video so just gonna copy paste. TLDR: Supports Healing other Supports for only 50%. So Ana does not heal 70 per shot but 35. i have a hot take that i have never heard before: A healing penalty for supports healing supports. We all now that moment where u r a tank/dps who just killed both enemy dps and tank but not matter what u r doing (hitting all your cds) u just cant kill the moira that heals the kiriko and the reverse. More than anything supports that pocket each other r just the most unkillable things in the game because of small hitbox + support passiv + escape tools. I thought how about a healing penatly of like 50% when healing the other supports, these will also be a minor buff to the dps bc now sometimes it will be worth healing your dps instead of your other support. Like for example Kiriko heals 13 per talisman and she throws 2 at the time and u have 5 that means 10 talisman with 13 healing = 130 healing which is just overkill there is like nothing in the game that does similiar dps especially considering how easy it is to "hit" these comparing to dealing damage. And for people saying just lower the healing u cant really do that bc u need this type of healing for your tanks otherwise they will just always fall once 5 people shoot them. Obviously 50% is a lot and it can definitly be lowered, but a really feel like this could help remove some of the most frustrating things in this game. (That being unkillable pocket supports) Feel free to disagree and tell me your opinion.

[@marigolden_mariposa]

I LOVED OW loot boxes. I understand the critique of it but compared to what we have it was a DREAM. The amount of stuff for your money was huge. The credits they give you are measely

[@Tapood74]

10 seconds into the video and chat is spamming minecraft fish What

[@Fail_Successful]

Hot Take: Doomfist is THE BEST Tank in the game but his requirements of proper cooldown management coupled with a technical play style makes him unappealing to most players and therefore seen as bad

[@novazela3590]

3:15 but the thing is you wouldnt be ABLE to buy them seperately. i completely agree with this take, 8 random loot boxes for anything for any character + every thing else in the battle pass would be better and make the battle pass more worth the $10 since 8 loot boxes back then probably wouldve been more than $10 themselves. Not having them be able to be bought seperately would be the main driving reason to add them back.

[@novazela3590]

i could also see getting them once you level up your career profile level though. and that may be better.

[@mutmuffin1683]

Hot Take: I don’t think there should be a scoreboard, while the scoreboard does give info on how teams are doing I do think that the numbers are sometimes misleading. (a soldier that has the highest dmg output but low elims could just mean he’s focusing on the tank the entire time). I also think the scoreboard gives too much information on ults against the enemy team and is A part of why ults can feel weak. I personally did not have a problem with OW1’s “scoreboard” as it gave enough information for me as a player and in my opinion, made the game less toxic. (this really isn’t a game-breaking issue for me. They definitely need to get on top of other issues tho)

[@Otak-View]

Scoreboard stats are definitely not indicative of a person's true performance. Unfortunately a lot of the player base doesn't understand this and stats can easily be padded. Fortunately this does decrease as you climb the ranks.

[@momdad1818]

They're honestly SO useful for tracking ults but sadly create social problems in game

[@averyterribleperson5292]

​​​@@Otak-Viewthats not the playerbases fault though. Thats on the devs for creating the problem in the first place, why implement a scoreboard that doesnt reflect performance at all. Its stupid and im tired of people blaming players for what was clearly a dev driven decision. Notice how no one says this about scoreboards in any other shooter?

[@Otak-View]

@@averyterribleperson5292 Yeah other fps games with score boards don't have this issue. I was letting my frustration with egocentric stats focused players talk

[@MK-mm7ui]

Im one of those people who enjoy and actually look forward to new core game modes. However, i think the fact that Push and Flashpoint have such few maps make the experience worse, because its the same few maps over and over again. They need to make more maps for these modes asap imo. I hope Clash launches with at least 3 maps

[@Santusknowsyourlocation]

REAL, and they just keep releasing maps for payload, capture point, while doing nothing w push and flash

[@MK-mm7ui]

@@Santusknowsyourlocation It seems like the next map, for season 9, will be the Peru Push map shown at Blizzcon, which will be the first Push map added since launch

[@Zelnyair]

Hot take: there should be a tank hero with a 'pain split ability', where it will do a LoS to an ally in range, and any damage either of you take is halved between you. Ability deactivates if either of you would take damage that would end one of you, similar to how damage calculation with lamp works, I assume. So, a Cassidy shot would do 35HP to you both, instead of 70HP to one target.

[@swagglesworth33]

this is a really cool idea

[@MutatedAmerican]

Kinda feel like the hero would be like Zen, but as a tank (And yeah, that would also be Ram, but I mean more monk like)

[@michaelg1778]

Hot Take: Make Ball a Damage hero instead of a tank. It'll give Blizzard more flexibility in how they balance him. Since he's a tank, they always have to maintain a certain high level of survivability in his design (since that's what tanks are supposed to do) but it's at the expense of his other abilities. He'll always be either super busted or trash. It's like a Survivability-Mobility-Damage triangle, you can only pick two. Since he is fundamentally a highly mobile hero, and he's a tank so he needs to have high survivability, his damage (and maybe utility?) will always suffer. Not being forced into giving him super high survivability would let Blizzard adjust other parts of his kits in ways that feel better and make a more well-rounded hero.

[@hitbyatank]

I would rather have lootboxes then a weird onion creature that floats in my hand

[@thenamelessking9005]

Hot Take: I think a lot of people too easily fall into the idea and think that bastion is too brain dead or op when he really isn’t that bad to go up against, especially when you’re with teammates that know what they’re doing. Once you go to the high elos, bastion starts to fall off greatly because of how big of a target he is and how easily counterable he is. Yes, he is a shield breaker and he can be quite annoying to go up against if you are a tank. But he gets counters by characters like reaper, tracer, sombra, dva, widow, soldier, and generally has to worry much more about counters because he’s not a mobile and slim dps like sojourn. And without turret you NEED to have good aim to survive in recon. To be an effective bastion in Diamond games or higher, you’ll have to learn the art of mastering his grenade to make super high jumps, and know how to flank instead of brawling with your team, because otherwise if they expect you it’ll immediately eliminate your value as a teammate. Most of the games I’ve played when I have a teammate as bastion, they often times get the most deaths the entire game. I’m not saying bastion is not a brain dead character because he kinda is. But there are characters that are much easier and more brain dead to play such as reaper, sym, and spam rats on certain maps. Bastion is certainly not going to be as skillful of a character like genji, but I think because of his unique kit and cooldowns, and huge hit box, you’ll have to strategize how to use him more than people are willing to give him credit for.

[@iR8state]

Loot boxes were great because they gave you a chance to get things for free. It kept more people playing to earn them.(making a bigger player base) The bad part was being able to buy them. (Edit: I'm not saying we should get everything for free. Just the chance of getting them and likely getting something worth while if you grinded enough of them was enough. Also people act like loot boxes are these horrifying new game design but they aren't. The fact you could buy them is the terrible new aspect. Before loot boxes they were called chests, barrels, crates, jars, or even corpses. All forms of randomly generated loot from opening/searching something in a game.)

[@zacharywoodford8530]

Why is that bad? Nobody made you buy them

[@zestybesty11]

if they add lootboxes back you know they’re gonna make you pay for it which is objectively worse than the current monetization model

[@hotsour_sushi]

@@zacharywoodford8530 it gives the excuse of lootboxes solely being bad because of gambling

[@zacharywoodford8530]

@hotsour_sushi maybe. I personally don't care what they do with any of it. Cosmetics are useless and if people wanna waste money on them idc how blizzard sets it up. Just make new heros free and im happy

[@iR8state]

​@@zacharywoodford8530agreed. What I mean by bad is if they were never purchasable they wouldn't have as bad of a wrap as they do now. My version of the hot take is bring back loot boxes but leave the store as is. You can buy the skins if you want or grind in game for a chance to get one randomly.

[@ReivecS]

I personally only think lootboxes are a problem if you can infinitely buy them. Ideally you can never buy them, so putting it in a battlepass could be an issue. But what if you got lootboxes each week based on your endorsement level? The only thing that tries to get you to do is be more cooperative and friendly AND it would be optional.

[@asaiguess4491]

KarQ you completely misunderstood the hot take at 2:23, yes the paid lootboxes were predatory, but the free ones were always nice and made it feel like we got rewarded just for playing, and replacing the credits in the battle pass with these free lootboxes would just be a more satistfying reward. Nobody is arguing paid lootboxes aren't predatory, but the free ones were nice. You can argue all you want about how "easy" it is to just grind for the credits and get to buy a skin every 4-6 months but it is daunting to new players and that's what you seem to be missing. All you streamers seem to forget the little guys and how much that little bit of free incentive keeps you going. I probably got trash 4/5 lootboxes I got from games but every time I saw one pop up for queueing a specific role or flex queueing you know I clicked it faster than anything in the world even if I knew the lootbox was going to be trash. Now I grind for pennies and every game feels like a punishment for not spending money and I'd rather play anything else.

[@tigerfalco]

6:25 I see this person had the same idea as I did, well...similar. My idea was that Ball spends some of his health to make himself immune to CC for 1 second. This would make Ball players have to choose in the moment which is more important. It'd also have to be done preemptively which would add to the skill of playing him too. The only thing that stopped me from sharing is it made more sense to spend it from his shields. So if a ball wants to do it before pile driving, he wouldn't be able to. It wouldn't be good to make it reduce the amount of shields he'd get cuz itd feel unintuitive. It would also be weird to harm yourself for it but I guess the only way to make it work all the time is that you trade either some armor or adaptive shields for it so that way you'd have access to it at anytime.

[@uuuummmmYea]

Overtime spawns should only affect the attacking team. I realise it's not a huge problem in the upper echelons of the game, but when you're playing in the metal ranks teams don't regroup very well. This leads to the team with less time in overtime snowballing if they win one fight due to the delayed overtime spawns and often times winning. Similarly; if a CTP game goes to overtime, the team with point control should not be affected by overtime spawn delay. Why is my team being punished when we capped quicker than the other team?

[@priam2882]

Dps passive should be resourceful, meaning they get more healing from health packs and or more health packs on the map, this is kinda op for ball but a 25 percent health packs isn't much to tank like it is to a DPS

[@acatonasofa5276]

Hot take: all ow characters have a pretty reasonably low skill floor and we all just act like our main is especially hard to play/pick up.

[@patricklodge1576]

Nuh uh. Genji and doom exist

[@LumaSloth]

11:37 *_ohno_*

[@lnemf]

the moment he said that I went straight to the comments lol

[@marshmallow5672]

I miss orisa's bongos, at least they do something.

[@piusdoe8984]

Overwatch players are so unaware of how terrible monetization is in gaming & so act like theyre the biggest victims I was on the hate for lootboxes and welcomed change. But i ddnt think we'd go in this worse direction. I say bring back the boxes

[@Chubbzview]

Hot take but true: People complaining about supports just have a major skill issue

[@Weighty68]

This community and the weird nostalgia for 6v6 and lootboxes even in the face of all their apparent issues. I’ll never get it! I understand it’ll never be made to everyone’s tastes, but Overwatch is headed in a much better direction than it’s ever been. Just knowing that 5v5, while more volatile in certain instances, is a lot more honest with its balance focus makes each game feel more satisfying, win or lose. Lootboxes were quirky and appealed to fun monkey brain dopamine, guaranteeing everyone a little chance at something, but I’d rather have transparency over a slot machine.

[@skarloeythomas5172]

lol it’s not a slot machine. loot boxes were constant rewards for doing things in the game and you were guaranteed to get the things you wanted, along with any skins you were lucky to get along the way, maybe even for heroes you don’t normally play. the current system is one skin every two months with credits, and every nine months or so for coins. and the battle pass is all new stuff with a lot of filler and no choice.

[@Weighty68]

@@skarloeythomas5172 If the battle pass is all filler with no choice, then what do you call the random lootbox rewards then? Sure it was “something” but that “something” wasn’t guaranteed to be who you wanted it for. Sure, I have like 2 Torb legendaries and even Widow Kerrigan or Sharkbait Hog from my time in OW1, but if I don’t play them they’re just as much “filler” as the stuff in the battlepass. The biggest difference is the transparency and, hey, at least 1500 free credits every season plus the passive ones you earn here and there essentially get you desired stuff overtime. Not saying the current system is remotely generous, but at least I don’t have to spin a wheel every time. If I don’t like the rewards that season, no $10 for Blizzard :)

[@psyjinx]

We have robots, magic ninjas, a cowboy, an archer that holds his bow sideways, a hamster in a ball, a talking gorilla, a dude that flies using a metal fist, a sniper that heals people, mole people, and whatever the hell Lucio is. A true furry is on the horizon. Also, Bogur did nothing wrong. Let us eat Ganymede and Hammond for HP.

[@ItsASleepySheepy]

Overwatch 2 straight up can not have lootboxes due to other countries' gambling laws. I agree that OW2's monetization is predatory but also recognize that the old lootbox system wasn't much better, especially before they implemented currency rewards for dupes and the ability to purchase cosmetics with that currency if you didn't pull it. What I think would be best is for OW2 to allow for conversion of OWL tokens and legacy currency into the premium credits, and for the battle passes to reward a certain amount of currency (let's say 10 coins) per level/tier regardless of whether players buy the pass or not. That way, players who don't buy the BP can still earn cool rewards and nobody has to hoard credits in case something comes out later that they might want. Also, put OWL skins in the shop rotation and let us buy previous seasons' cosmetics if we missed them. There's literally no downside to this.

[@Unbidden_]

I Believe the “best” way to properly nerf Kiri without ruining her as a support is to lower her hp to 175. She has more then enough ways to get out of a sticky situation with her tp and her suzu.

[@futcamisas_store]

HOT TAKE: flash points are just trash, in lower ranks you can never get the team together to fight on one point and after that you're just wandering 5km in the map to the next point or if your team gets killed around 70% of the point taken it's just lost because you can't get there fast enough from spawn

[@MutatedAmerican]

Hot Take: Why not pull an Apex Legends and add in subcategories to each of the roles? Tanks would be Paladin, Berserker, and Commander. DPS would be Frontline, Flank, and Stronghold. Supports would be Guardian, Chess Master, and Combat Medic. After all, everyone knows the meta tanks and each other's counters, but not much on the other heroes. This may fix that issue. Not only that, but there are those who don't realize that certain heroes work better with others

[@samvimes9510]

As your chat was saying, Clash is based on 5CP in TF2. What's funny is that Push was clearly "inspired" by Payload Race, but it's a horrible take on that game mode. I can't wait to see how Blizzard screws up Clash.

[@awesome-dp1oo]

I'm kind of just spit balling here, but what if we remove 1 dps slot to create a new role? A hybrid between dps and tank, a pseudo tank Characters like bastion, doom fist, ball, Winston, junkerqueen, all the characters that are pretty dysfunctional in their current roles The tanks that would move over could still keep their kits, but alot of their abilities would receive big nerfs Example Winston bubble would get a massive hp nerf, from 800 to anywhere around 400 - 275 Commanding shout uptime and over health will be moderately decreased. Transitioning dps would recieve health/armor buffs and maybe some cooldown reductions aswell. This role would still be linked to dps in role queue, but both roles will have a one person limit. (A deselect button will be added so they can switch between the 2 classes). Im sure theres alot of issues with my concept, but it's fun to think about.

[@The_Real__Power_]

13:30 doom sumo should be a permanent arcade mode

[@Insantgd]

Brawl is the most fun meta because of the hero’s play-styles and it’s often more intense/ skillful. Both sides can often have fun. In poke and dive it often feels less fun for the losing team than in brawl because of heros like widow, sombra, hanzo, zen, genji, ball and moira. (and IMO the heros are just more fun to play)

[@FGPlus]

Hot take: Genji's entire health bar should be just armor. He wears a full suit of armor but isnt compensated with any dmg reduction.

[@swagglesworth33]

hot take a better entry point to comp is winning 1 game on every hero... the requirement for 50 wins encourages you to just pick something easy to play and you don't really learn anything from it. most new players i have come across only like to play 1 or 2 heroes and usually only one role because the amount of choice is overwhelming and they only really understand one or two. forcing them to unlock and win on every hero before they unlock comp could REALLY help with that

[@imprincesswolfy2565]

Mei’s Snowball Offensive should 100% have a competitive mode and I’ve been saying this for years. They could leave it seasonal if they want to, but please make it competitive

[@waynetec13]

That's not what a trigger not is. Trigger bots don't lock on. They simply fire as soon as the cross hair is on an enemy.

[@tcbobb.8782]

My hot take is overwatch should do both lootboxes and have the shop, that way if you want to buy a specific skin, you can, but if you want to get it at a discount or for free, you have the chance of getting it in a lootbox. As a casual QP enjoyer, lootboxes were a fun break of pace and gave me a reason to play another game or 2. Now I just sit on the main menu wondering what I'm even doing it all for

[@redhoodrebeltv]

Devs should incorporate a community market & a currency exchange. Vet players have plenty of skins they don't care about and skins were missed out on by new players. They would sell for a static price so the community cant abuse(easily). Additionally adding a currency exchange would allow the long time players and grinders to get their money's worth. 1000 credits for 100 coin would be quite the grind but better than what we currently have.

[@carts.g]

Asking “why do so many people want loot boxes back?” Gives off major shill vibes

[@neonrain9488]

the ONLY thing i don't like about flashpoint is that it's ALWAYS the same starting point, i wish it would be randomized starting point

[@unklrukkus]

The 2-1-2 would literally just make dps useless. What a joke.

[@erikstark16]

Hot take: Tanks should be like a raid boss. The only reason why I was fine with losing a fellow tank for 5v5 was the promise the be more power ful.

[@FailingGH3]

I just think they need to change the final choke on first point of rialto, so many games start and end on just that point

[@borisvandepoel2703]

Fact!

[@mega17]

Referencing Double Shield is such a disingenuous response to 5v5/duo-tank. Blizzard can literally pre-emptively nerf that, and duo shields would have so much less synergy with only 1 dps or duo-dive.

[@andrewp2681]

Pretty sure most people preferred Lootboxes. Every time I see someone make that take on twitter, you see thousands of likes. “I don’t get the obsession” They were free, man. That’s why.

[@Pes._]

Karq sucking blizzards contract more then flats on the lootbox take

[@guywithopinion]

Mauga is not as op as many people say. He's a character that relies on dealing damage to survive, which you can easily deny him by taking cover and not stand in front of him when he's going through cardiac arrest (lol!)

[@backwooddagn6888]

Okay that keeps me from dying but how do I kill him if I have to constantly hide

[@guywithopinion]

@@backwooddagn6888 he doesn't have cardiac forever. It only lasts 5 seconds, during which, you take cover. As soon as it ends that's when you fight him like a normal tank

[@rich8764]

I don't think this is really that much of a hot take: I think they should add a talent system. Something that changes up the way you play a character by a little bit. For example, something for Reinhart could be that every fire strike does increased damage with every person it passes through. (If it did 100 dmg, maybe the second person hit would take 130 dmg, and the third person would take 160 dmg, etc)

[@kennethbontempo1031]

They should make the dps passive something stupid like 5% decreased cooldown time for 30 seconds after an elimination. That way it would at least have some effect on Hanzo. OK maybe they can do something like 1/2 a second off current cooldowns (assuming they were used to obtain the elimination - otherwise moot) or adjust the percentage I mentioned before to whatever is fair.

[@BuffGenji]

Yeah I’ve been thinking about a similar idea, but splitting the DPS passive into 3 categories. Typical hitscan heroes like Ashe get reload bonuses as it currently is (40% I think), flankers like reaper, genji get movement speed bonus of 25%. And other heroes that are kinda different get cooldown reductions, like junkrat gets half a mine cooldown back, mei gets a shorter wall and ice block cooldown by 20% each, etc

[@onetomeplz5825]

I actually think that a constant change of numbers to make heroes good or bad is kinda ok like one season ash then cas is op then genji ect

[@Water_On_Mars]

I just want to unlock lootboxes once i finish the battlepass. Instead of the titles.

[@mythmage8231]

The Orisa "rework" would've been alot better if they ACTUALLY reworked her (similar to what they did with Roadhog or Bastion), and this new kit that she got could've gone onto a brand new hero. Also, as a bonus, Orisa and Brig are victims of their metas. You didn't hate Brig and you didn't hate Orisa, you just hated GOATS (which is kind of an L take) and Double Barrier (which is understandable, even if I disagree). I'm just happy that Sigma isn't a victim of this as well.

[@Efinem3787]

They need to provide more ways to get old skins. That’s what I liked about the loot boxes. Now it’s only enough credits for two maybe three old skins per season. It sucks for newer players who didn’t play ow1

[@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers]

Rialto 1st is the hardest point in the game - especially considering it's a 1st point that is "supposed" to be taken more often than 2nd and 3rd points. More full holds there than anywhere else, especially the lower the rank gets. It's because that final stretch is built so that "default" positioning is actually good positioning and it inherently eliminates all sorts of mistakes that can be made. Your tank can contest cart while everyone else stays safely in cover. No other point so 'funnels' people into good choices as that one.

[@erikrulez17]

11:00 I don't like tanking solo though, and if they made it so there were off tank options & main tank that would be cool. an maybe force it so you can only have one shield character.

[@unklrukkus]

The issue with the current monetization is that lately the only good skins have been in the shop. It’s been like 3 seasons since a good skin was in the battle pass

[@ImTimIsMe]

Doom's Empowered punch shouldn't be countered the same way a normal charged punch does. It's supposed to be a stronger, more forceful punch. So why shouldn't it be able to punch through a Rein Charge or Brig Shield Bash without being knocked down? Hell, let it be the only thing that can counter Mauga's unstoppable charge. They're technically supposed to be equal in power lore wise, so it'd make sense to allow it

[@Dude-nz6kh]

Hot take: Sombra is terribly designed from the perspective of casual play. Playing against a Sombra instantly forces you to play differently, because her simply being alive forces you to always be looking out for her and forces you to try and react fast enough to shoot her before she can hack you. This is bad for casual play because most people want to just wander around shooting people without much thought behind their actions, but that all goes out the window the second someone picks Sombra.

[@patricklodge1576]

Counter point widow players exist.

[@Dude-nz6kh]

@@patricklodge1576 Widow falls under that criteria too, but is significantly less of a problem in lower ranked games. She mostly becomes a major issue in masters and above.

[@patricklodge1576]

@Dude-nz6kh yes but a bad widow can hit a headshot that changes the tide of battle. A bad sombra isn't that lucky

[@marveler8994]

Ngl my problem isn't exactly with how good a hero is, it's how annoying a lot of them are to fight

[@marveler8994]

And yes skill issue I know

[@oftheBlazingNinjas]

Hey KarQ, just letting you know (though idk if you'll see this), this video seemed to not get pushed out into people's sub feeds (at least, it didn't appear in mine).

[@CometdownCat]

1:12 2cp was my first and only love

[@tineye5100]

The timing one about payload comp maps is a hot take. Can’t agree. That just advantages certain types of comps.

[@MutatedAmerican]

Hot Take: They should add a new currency. Here is what I mean by that: -In the BP, there are CREDITS to purchase epic skins and other miscellaneous goods -In the BP, they should also have COINS to purchase the next BP or the new skins -After the BPs completion, in addition to a title, the tiers each contain a PASS that allows you to get ANY LEGENDARY SKIN from OW. Don't need any? Have it covert to 100 coins, in total

[@nox503]

@3:12 I would say about 90% of my skins I have for overwatch I got from opening free loot boxes I got from just playing the game.

[@seke9885]

11:37 crazy we had this take then they actually add it and your take completely changes to being okay with it. Kinda funny 😭 but to be fair they’re giving it to tank as well so understandable cause this guys take only said dps and not tank and dps.

[@voidjumpleo]

Being an apex main, trust me, you DON'T want a loot boxes centric system

[@Shafly_]

Lex from paladins has trigger bot, he's sort of a flanker and he has an ability like cassidy's right click where its used to finish off someone, it doesn't do as much damage as regular shots but there are a garanteed hit, so if you leave someone on 50hp and they are running away you would press that, it locks on and they go boom

[@patricklodge1576]

Technically the Lex ability produces a box that locks on to enemies

[@knyt0]

0:20 that's not what a triggerbot does lol, the whole point is you press no buttons

[@tobi2960]

I'm one of the people that like the idea of being a meat shield and making cool plays out of that, but when in the games is easy for you to get instantly deleted it just ruins the fun of it

[@ebhaenger8246]

11:37 well that aged like the finest milk

[@Victor-yy9qv]

7:46 that’s what’s happening with mauga right now lmaoo…pick mauga or lose. No point in picking any other tank right now bc he’s just too OP.

[@piranhaplant8483]

I seriously do not understand why people want lootboxes back. Idk about y'all, but I personally like having the convenience of seeing an outfit I like and being able to buy instead of wasting hours of my life just to get outfits I don't want. Yes, the outfits are pricey, but I got a busy life and really appreciate not having to gamble for one outfit

[@XSaintsofDoomX]

For that first take it could work, kinda have it have a charge up like Cass and then it fires a short, but more damaging burst

[@MutatedAmerican]

So, like a hero with a pump shotgun, but then just bust out an AA12 with infinite rounds for a few seconds 😂

[@melo7038]

Not surprised at all KarQ is defending the shitty shop monetisation process. His career is OW2 so skins are part of his budget. Makes the extortionate price seem far less crazy. But in reality, f2p premium credit gain is nonexistant. Especially when you buy the battlepass too. You got a crapload of credits in Overwatch 1 through lootbox openings (along with the chance of getting the skin) every level up, whch you could spend on the skin of your choice. You can't do that in 2. If you want to buy OW2 event skins, you need to either buy coins or grind coins. And you only get 60 coins a week MAX. A pathetic amount. Streetrunner Genji (epic skin) costs 1000 coins right now. That's 17 weeks of grinding to get ONE epic skin. And lets not forget the shop doesn't even let you buy individual skins most of the time. Like now, you get a load of shitty bundles of player icons, sprays and charms that nopbody cares about, so Blizzard can jack up the price to 2000+. Anyone seriously preferrring the current system over the old is huffing major copium.

[@m.artifex2001]

With heroes reliant on a combo/aid (nanoblade, pharmercy), I am a bit scared that giving more agency and less dependence on said aid will just make it more oppressive when it's there. Making pharah stronger won't reduce pharmercy- especially on console- it'll just make pharmercy even worse to deal with.