The BBC is Lying: Olympic Boxer Is NOT A Woman - Dr. Emma Hilton (4K) | heretics. 80

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Man or woman? Comment below, and read my article about it here: www.andrewgoldheretics.com/p/the-medias-unforgivable-collusion

[@pineappleTARDIS]

Biological male, which is all that matters when it comes to fairness in sport. Identity is an entirely different, entirely personal thing, which is quite frankly not anyone's business and should never have been this massive issue (the IOC should have better rules and should support sex testing, because this has been a horrible mess for ALL of the athletes involved and could have EASILY been avoided).

[@alicemilne1444]

Has this person physically examined the athlete? If not, she has no business to be pronouncing any opinion on the matter.

[@DotConnectr]

He's a man and he has no business boxing with females. I don't care if he didn't learn he was male until puberty. It's pretty bloody obvious now. Being permitted to literally beat women in sports is NOT a valid 'consolation prize' for men with DSDs.

[@wolfhugs2221]

Clearly a DSD but developed as a male.

[@thingamajig7850]

Wow. Looking forward to this interview.

[@poppykins2714]

In men’s boxing, there is a reason for weight divisions- for example, Naseem Hamed would not belong in the ring with Lennox Lewis. Boxing is dangerous. More than 2000 people have died in this sport so putting a boxer who is biologically male in the ring with biological females is absolute insanity.

[@elettramia6380]

Wow had no clue so many have died, even before knowing this as a woman it is obviously incredibly dangerous but the numbers support the subject

[@veronicabatteham9864]

Which brings me to my question ,why is boxing a sport ?

[@g_323]

Exactly. Objective measures like weight cannot be replaced with subjective feelings like gender without a great amount of insanity.

[@AncientYouth64]

To be fair Naseem is about the same weight as Lennox Lewis now 🤣🤣🤣

[@AncientYouth64]

@@veronicabatteham9864 go back to knitting

[@davepost7675]

In my opinion, if a female athlete gets hurt by an XY individual in the Olympics, the individuals in the IOC responsible for this should be held criminally liable.

[@JoeyP946]

hahaha what the fuck is an xy individual XD do you mean, a man?

[@carmenmccauley585]

Exactly!

[@herzl67]

Absolutly

[@John-du2mq]

Yup, because they put them in the wrong class for their sport.

[@c.a.s1900]

*male

[@delavan9141]

A female wrestler was eliminated from the final rounds by being 50 grams over the weight limit. But a man can get away with boxing as a woman.

[@macrick]

He's just getting in touch with his feminine side

[@OrbSpider]

One world order is corrupting gender & destroying the fabric of society.

[@JaySun-t3d]

@@macrick He has no feminine side. He's a male.

[@LouisCapps-p3z]

Of course 😮

[@rayzimmermin]

did she try identifying as someone who was 50 grams lighter

[@Eustace.h.plimsoll6625]

It’s so refreshing to hear an intelligent person just cutting through all the utter nonsense with some facts.

[@SovereignStatesman]

Yes, but an intelligent speaker requires an intelligent listener to make a difference, good luck finding many of those.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

The Olympics guy is a friend of Kier Starmer so it very likely hes a lefty as well so will not give a fair hearing to reality on xy chromosomes.

[@Eustace.h.plimsoll6625]

@@SovereignStatesman I think half the trouble - or probably more than half - is that the left virtually own education. Those in the middle or on the right have to sort this out.

[@benkoi8310]

Sports should be based on biological sex, not gender identity, that simple.

[@oceonblu]

Am I misunderstanding, are they saying he is a hermaphrodite?

[@oceonblu]

Am I misunderstanding are they hermaphrodite

[@JappaKneads]

​@@oceonbluNo. Hermaphrodites have both male and female genitalia. The issue is having an external vagina with internal testicles and high testosterone. A freak of nature, apparently.

[@JappaKneads]

@benkoi8310 ...and what is biological sex based on?

[@naryainc]

@@oceonblu He is a male with a DSD.

[@Englandislost]

They ARE discriminating against biological women!

[@JasonYork-b3i]

Who has been the majority of the left's vote for the last 100 years? Who demanded society treat men and women exactly the same, as if the fact of biological sex could make no difference at all? Hmmm....I wonder who did this to us....

[@jasperhorace7147]

Of course they are. Now, if all an athlete needs is an F on their passport, expect hundreds of advantaged cheats in 2028.

[@user-xh4bw2zc4g]

All the so called democrats and liberals are the ones that are supporting this too.

[@ane-louisestampe7939]

And ruining the reputation of decent transsexsuals, who just want a decent life, and and suffered already through their early childhood - and became suicidal in their teens. But here goes a greedy guy (and his Dad???) who has chopped his dick off to improve his chances of winning a sport competition. See me, see me... I'm winning 🙄 Way more pathetic than any "real" man - girly or not 🤣🤣

[@gcndc]

This movement is a misogynistic movement

[@valeriemcclain9001]

Andrew, Emma is a renowned, respected, capable, truthful scientist who will clearly articulate, without prejudice, the science around this subject. I am so grateful you got her on your show. We need to be able to talk about this without fear of being silenced or viciously ridiculed.

[@charliesmith_]

Fear is irrelevant. ALWAYS Tell the truth. Do the cogniscant thing. Nothing to fear when you tell the cogniscant Truth.

[@rednarok]

How does she know Khaliph is DSD and not Swyer?

[@NateSpurs2.0]

It's insane that we aren't. The world is gone mad, or, more likely there is an agenda behind all of this which just gaslights everyone.

[@atgnicyclist]

@@rednarokshe has eyes.

[@oldyoutubeaccount]

​@@rednarok Carry angle is a big tell that it's not Swyer as well as a few other traits that are exclusively in individuals with non-muted SRY expression

[@Juhani139]

The fact that this even needs to be discussed shows where we are as a society. The lack of common sense is horrendous.

[@JTT126]

Conspiracy going on here from people with power pushing these agendas.

[@SovereignStatesman]

Hold on a second, haven’t these “women“ always existed in the Olympics and other women’s sports? It was just assumed they were Ugly.

[@kevinhoward5520]

Exactly

[@mayberelevant3237]

My Yorkshire Mom has always said “unfortunately common sense isn’t that common “ 😂♥️🇨🇦

[@mayberelevant3237]

@@SovereignStatesmanI’m thinking of all those Eastern European communist countries in the nineties?

[@Angel-vb5ot]

The IOC has effectively eliminated women's sports. Men compete in men's sports and men compete in women's sports. 🤷‍♀️

[@lionessrampant26]

Yes. There isn't a men's category and a women's category. There is a men's category and an open category. They don't care about women.

[@lemon1657]

You said it. What a time to be a man!.... Oh wait, it's always been a good time for them. Hmm, what a time to be a woman 🙄😑😞

[@carolynhague7199]

You are correct

[@SmallFry900]

It'll be OK.

[@MariaB11]

Facts

[@anniewilliams4730]

Women athletes always say they'll lose their sponsorship if they refuse to compete against fake women. But if the real women never win anything, they'll lose their sponsorship anyway, won't they?

[@Gil2727]

THIS makes too much sense!

[@jacklawsen6390]

That would take time, and too many people don't seem either capable or willing to consider the long-term consequences of their actions.

[@whatevergoesforme5129]

Agree. As I woman, I blame female athletes for caving in because they are protecting their career but they are shortsighted because in the long run, the so-called women's sports will just be in name only because these sports will be dominated by biological males whether they are real trans with gender dysphoria or fake trans or intersexed or DSD individuals. Men are different from women in many aspects and not just physical although in sports it is the physical that is taken into consideration.

[@christiancommentary379]

Ummmmm......look very carefully at all the little V shaped "women" that won all the gold this year. Most women are hourglass, pear or triangle shaped. Do not be deceived.

[@hisservants8003]

Women will be pushed out of every sport. There will be no women’s sports.

[@Qrtuop]

I'm so sick of men larping as women and everyone just going along with it.

[@SmallFry900]

Do you think this boxer is "larping as a woman"?

[@Lao_Xiashi]

@@SmallFry900 I believe she believes she's a women, but based upon her XY chromosomes in terms of competing against XX women, She's a man.

[@KnottyCeltic]

It goes both ways but yes, I agree. The people born female are the ones who are most affected by transgender "women" entering their female spaces from bathrooms, change rooms, sports etc.

[@jamesbroughton4706]

she was born with female genitals whats the problem

[@kilomonster-fp6po]

​@@SmallFry900 duh 🙄

[@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507]

1. Khelif was born with xy chromosomes with DSD 5-ARD deficiency.. Internal testes and no ovaries ... As such, Khelif was misassigned at birth as a female .. same as Caster Semenya and Brittany Griner ... 2. When Khelif reached puberty, his xy chromosomes kicked in (specifically the y chromosome) releasing normal male levels of testosterone from internal testes and resulting in all the attributes associated with being a male (muscle mass, bone density, lung capacity, larger heart, broader shoulders, deeper voice, etc) .. just look at the video of Khelif walking around Paris .. major broad shoulders and a typical male gait .. 3. In 2023, Khelif was banned by the IBA for not meeting the female division sex requirements .. ie. Not having xx chromosomes ... Khelif initially appealed this decision but then abandoned it .. when a simple cheek swab would easily prove whether Khelif was xx or xy ... The fact Khelif chose NOT to fight the IBA ban or take this simple test is very telling, if not damning .. hiding behind a dubious passport is not proof of anything.. 4. In 2024, Khelif decides to compete as a woman in the Olympics, knowing the IOC has a loophole in not requiring actual proof that women are xx chromosomal.. Instead, a passport will do, which is zero proof at all ! 5. Any empathy for Khelif I had disappeared upon learning he is gaming the system by KNOWING he is xy chromosomal and STILL deciding to use his xy size/muscle/power advantage to beat up xx women .. the power advantage difference between men and women is massive (one paper cited a 162% difference!) .. 6. The IOC banned Caster Semenya in the 2024 Olympics for having naturally high testosterone (but ignoring why this is occurring ie. xy chromosomes) ... yet allows Khelif, Lin, and Griner to compete ... the inconsistency is mind-boggling 7. Algeria should be ashamed knowing full well they are exploiting the IOC's incompetence and willful woke ignorance, instead of actual solid recognized facts and science. 8. Their egregious decision (IOC) could lead to serious injuries, or even death, to actual xx female athletes. It's just insane. The solution: * Cheek swabs for ALL competitors ... * Only XX can participate in women's sport events * Its just that simple

[@annettegill9023]

The IOC didn’t ban Semenya. World Athletics is the governing body for athletics, including at the Olympics, and it has strict criteria for eligibility for the female category. Semenya fails to meet those criteria and was banned. But Olympic boxing is controlled by the IOC, because they dismissed the IBA. The IOC chose not to set any biological criteria for eligibility for the female category. They consider the fact that the two boxers have female passports good enough. It’s shocking.

[@justynastawicka7363]

Dziękuję za Twój mądry komentarz i pozdrawiam z Warszawy🇵🇱

[@HillbillyYEEHAA]

Imane doesn't have a fkin dsd. He would develop as a phenotypical female. He looks male

[@rogerharris990]

Has this doctor had anything😢 to do with the case other than opinion and conjecture? Ie tests, physical exam and tests. Think of the feelings of the people involved,she was crying in an interview.

[@Meta_Gryphon]

No one but Imane knows the 2 results in India and in Turkey. We don’t know what test were run (Karyotype testing and/or hormonal testing). The letter announcing her disqualification from IBA competition was not providing any information.

[@syntaxd6480]

They lecture athletes on not cheating, then let men beat up women 🙄

[@buntyclara]

athletes

[@macrick]

lol

[@angelaacuna240]

Awful

[@veenacriddle1207]

The formation of the human body is the wonders of God. They should pray to the Lord to get through their confusion as their is a soul involved in this that can be demonically influenced . Also by the woke confusion of today!! Legalising gay marriage is one of the biggest travesties of the day confusing our young and giving satan full reign. Prayer is needed here!! It's a lot more than a physical body. The recognition of the soul is very lacking. Turning our backs on God is responsible!! Very sad 😢😢😢😢

[@zafrullabadrudin8526]

Is it OK. When woman beat there husband's blue black. When a woman gets smacked for any reason, be it right or wrong they cry foul.

[@bethscott4330]

I want society to STOP shaming me into pretending to believe LIES.

[@marlamercy6995]

SO MUCH THIS! After both researching this subject for the last 6 years and patiently and diplomatically explaining biological reality to people I know on the occasion they have things ass backwards and start virtue signalling about those who *don't* have it ass backwards are bigots, I particularly despise being told I am uneducated/ignorant and that I am being cruel/unkind... by people who a) got their info from celebritard tweets and captured media and so *they're* uneducated/ignorant and b) are verbally abusing me for diplomatically stating a fact, so *they're* being cruel/unkind. It seems far too many people do not care about the truth, facts, or reality more than they care about maintaining their membership to a herd, who's entry requirements are to act like you believe nonsensical garbage, and support or even instigate attacks on people who don't.

[@sussanbryant903]

@@marlamercy6995I couldn’t have said it better .spot on .

[@Mozgor]

I point blank refuse to be sucked in! I am very tolerant of peoples preferences, but will not be hoodwinked into accepting this nonsense about there’s more than 2 sexes. As a female I resent bitterly having to share toilet, changing rooms etc with biological men and will not frequent places which deny me the right to my privacy.

[@Ashley-pt1ey]

i'm glad you were born normal, pretentious human

[@lindaoregan9599]

People need to start being Honest, Now. If it's true then say it's true.

[@9395gb]

1) I box and know that there had been complaints about Imane Khelif for years. This was before the IBA tests and their involvement. Female boxers, coaches, and boxing organizations filed complaints about Khelif being a man ever since he started in the adult womens boxing circuit. Look at his fight with Brianda Cruz from a year ago. He almost massacred her, and he's walking into her punches without flinching and with his guard down. He's not afraid of Cruz and can withstand her punches. He's also holding back a lot. That's a red flag. 2) This was handled privately initially. The IBA tested twice and found Khelif was a biological man. Khelif was given the opportunity to retest at the IBA's expense. Khelif refused. Khelif could have appealed and did so initially and then dropped the appeal and so he was banned from the world championships. This was over a year go when these tests were done, so Khelif knew about his genetics at least in 2023. 3) Khelif applied for the Olympics anyhow despite the genetic tests and despite being banned from the World Championships. The IBA sent a letter with the test results to the medical team for the IOC a year ago to warn them about Khelif. This was not done publicly, but a private letter with the test results. The IOC didn't respond and allowed Khelif in. They said they only use passports to verify biological sex. 4) When Khelif boxed Carini and Carini didn't last in the ring because her nose was broken and she was bloody, people knew Khelif was a man. His build, the blows to her face, and blood within 46 seconds are red flags of abnormal strength. The IBA was then forced to do a press releae on their website saying they told the IOC a year ago, and Khelif knew a year ago as well. This was now a safety and dangerous game that the IOC and Khelif were playing. 5) The IOC president, Thomas Bach, did a press conference and disregarded the IBA and their results. The IOC said they don't do testing at all. They only look at the passport. The IBA was then forced to do a press conference in Paris because Khelif was getting ready to fight more women and potentially seriously injure or kill a woman. Even the VP for the World Boxing Organization came out and said Khelif and several others were biological men. 6) The IOC has done nothing (not one single test) since and allows Khelif and other biological men to compete in a woman' s boxing competition. Khelif and his team try to drum up sympathy and do interviews and bring more attention to their so-called "private" situation. If it's private, then why does Khelif do interviews and constantly post on social media about it? 7) Khelif dresses, walks,talks, and sits like a young adult man. Khelif literally wears men's suits, clothing, and jewelry. It's so blatant, and Khelif posts pics on his Instagram flaunting it. He doesn't care because the IOC isn't stopping him. This is essentially what happened. Everyone knew, including Khelif, and they are not going to stop until a woman is killed.

[@liviaboda9090]

Thank you for the summary, made the situation very clear. IOC need to be held responsible. The male boxers need to be stopped and any medals confiscated!

[@nuggiesma]

The IOC gives zero eff's about women, look at Laurel Hubbard.

[@MG-uy3ie]

Its weird that IOC now dissmissing everything IBA presented as "CoRrUpT rUsSiAnS" bogeyman yet those corrupt Russians are apparently the only ones who care about facts and womens safety 🥴 inclussive and fair western civilization indeed 🤪 and not to mention the whole double standards on who US is allowing to compete at the Olympics lol

[@lagarde2011]

Wow. I would have thought that "she" would be wearing a hijab most of the time outside the boxing ring.

[@therian_forever12]

​@@lagarde2011Not only that, watch how the other Muslim men interact with him, just like he's one of the guys, hugging and patting him on the back etc. Muslim men do not interact with women this way AT ALL.

[@ABeeSees.]

Just like we have Special Olympics, we should have Trans Olympics. They get to box each other 👍🏼

[@KoalaB354]

Nah, the whole concept of trans teaches kids that sex is dependent on outdated, sexist stereotypes, not on biology. I'm against any championing of an ideology that teaches such a dangerous message. Not good enough for elite sport in your sex category? This is the experience of most people. There is no divine right to be involved in elite sport. This Italian Paralympic sprinter with 'lady feels' is not eligible to be in the Olympics as he's not competitive among men. He can jog on 😅 It's the Olympics, not a fun day!

[@myworld8266]

Olympics is over - France the worst Olympics in history.

[@15walkingaway]

Hard disagree. Munich is the worst.

[@McCarthyism_by_Youtube]

​​@@15walkingaway France is in the top 3 worst Olympics?

[@mennoshouseofmusic1214]

Have not watched 1 second of it.

[@clovermark39]

Not watched it and don’t want to watch any of it from what I’m hearing about it.

[@traceybott7744]

Even the medals are poor , the coating wears off after a week, terrible.

[@c.a.r.4834]

The IOC should be held accountable for hate crimes against women!

[@crystal3798]

What about IBA for spreading rumors for political befits? Lin has been declared as a girl since birth, and now you’re telling me to question my ID card that is identified by doctors???

[@tschuorwidrig]

@@crystal3798it simply comes down to chromosomes: XY = male, XX = female

[@KnottyCeltic]

^^^ this!

[@ladybug591]

We hope this charade never comes to a death or serious injury, choose good politicians who will deal firmly with these problems in a legal and scientific fashion. This lady, educated in the field of biology, can define such things and courts can lawfully deal with such dangerous activities - if we need new laws then so be it, but usually we already have laws available. Women have the same rights as men - stand up and USE those laws. Using the word "hate" in legal matters, in the context of what people say, hate speech for example, leads to a pretense of being able to read other people's minds which then leads to normal people, being jailed for "thought crimes". So be careful, don't be fooled into the idea of "hate crimes", this is a danger to real justice. There are already terms in the legal sense that will deal with such organizations such as the IOC if their foolish decisions lead to harm. There are legal forms of negligence, refusal to see the danger, not observing duty of care, state of mind during the commission of a crime can be a factor, but the word hate should not be brought into legal situations. Hate is an emotion. Crime is crime.

[@susanfisher2581]

Maybe it's time for these athletes to take their case to the courts.

[@j.j.l.]

The female player getting “punched in the face” symbolizes perfectly the grander scheme of things in general, when it comes to gender ideology.

[@WolfHeathen]

The symbolism of this is extraordinary.

[@severianmonk7394]

Patriarchy and toxic masculinity will always raise it ugly head triumphantly. You just can't get rid of it, however virtuously you try. The trans movement seems to be obsessed with bolstering male privilege while it oppresses women. Well done. I'm so in favour of this.

[@karnicool]

@@WolfHeathen wow!!! That's chilling

[@hisservants8003]

The compassionate, woke Left is destroying our culture. Women are not safe.

[@RC-qf3mp]

Nonsense. Both boxers are ‘female’ - if you’re born without a penis and testicles, you’re female. Phenotype over genotype. Furthermore, the Italian boxer CONSENTED to the rules of the IOC and later apologized (rightly). Ironically, you’re infantilizing women by making it seem like they are children unable to provide informed consent on whether to box or not according to IOC rules. And none of the above has anything to do with ‘gender ideology’ - it has to do with the the non-ideological question of whether intersex people such as Khelif are male or female. This isn’t about ‘self identifying as…’ nonsense. It’s about whether a baby born without a penis could possibly be male. Sure looks female to me. Prove me wrong. Dr. Hilton did not.

[@antoinettamason8557]

Emma is an incredible advocate for biological women and girls. And one very brave lady. Thank you for this discussion.

[@ShoppingEmail-dr1fs]

sad that talking about science is seen as 'brave'. welcome to 2024

[@SkepticalTeacher]

This is why people should not be allowed to change their sex on their passports and birth certificates!

[@What-28-ever-3]

Dont countries have regulations on this?

[@May-vb1pl]

Idk if she changed it as much as it was inaccurate but yes

[@sonicbloomtuts]

@@What-28-ever-3 Not if the government is in on it.

[@pollyparrot9447]

Boggles the mind that people are allowed to falsify official documents.

[@jamesclark6487]

Governments allowing a static fact to be recorded incorrectly on a document that has the sole purpose of recording a person's information... incomprehensible. Then another country might need to rely on that information, since a passports purpose is to allow travel away from the country of origin.

[@XKenny77]

It's a shame the world doesn't hear more from Dr. Hilton. She's educated, erudite, charming, witty and engaging. I'm looking forward to this very much.

[@Rudi-xd1bp]

Yes ,but her "problem" is she has made the mistake of relying on science and not ideological belief.

[@paolopagliaro980]

"The world" - meaning, people in power - do not care about truth and erudite, competent people: they care about staying in power and guiding the events in order not to pay for their errors.

[@HanaBasara]

even without these explanations, it is clear that a man is a man and a woman is a woman. all these come from ka satan. he knows that there will be a lot of noise, noise on this topic, somehow he wins... in the end, God will win. Be strong in faith.

[@daisycaltha6561]

@@Rudi-xd1bp That is not her problem. It is the IOC making that problem. And can anybody be sure, whether the corrupt IBA tested ALL competitors enrolled as female, BEFORE the World Championship 2023? NO! It would have been very easy to make two tests on the same day; chromosome test (are you a man?) and testosterone test (doping). The IBA just tested 2 competitors DURING the tournament in 2023! There are presumably still more than 2 men boxing in the women's category.

[@zx7-rr486]

erm.. got to be honest, I didn't detect much wit, and she waffles quite a bit. Could have explained many things much quicker. You could read the Wikipedia entry on DSD males in 5 minutes and know far more than what she conveyed in 20.

[@nelsonmcduff5218]

It's shocking how many people care more about feelings than they do about facts.

[@user-xn3uj4on7c]

Only men's feelings.

[@MsBabyChips]

certainly not about women or girls' feelings. it is entirely about narcissistic male feelings.

[@nicnocb6677]

Which is why they stopped the cheek swab test as men got upset if it showed klinefelter syndrome

[@psier11]

More shocking is that those persons, at least the highest level, so interested in feelings, are bred in their (SRA) families in a terrible way aimed at destroying empathy.

[@spellingbee523]

Saying that there are 2 sexes, male and female is not controversial.

[@trumpetshit]

It is unfortunately in these times

[@rclooper2843]

The IOC telling people to be kind while allowing these boxers to pummel their female opponents with gross advantage and dangerous power benefit is crazy. Maybe we should allow a heavyweight boxer to fight a featherweight because they feel like it.

[@ls-l1518]

On the grounds that the heavyweight might feel hurt and fat.

[@jenh9361]

Or put the opposers in the ring with these people and tell the referee's to stand down... Bet the Nah sayers would quickly believe whole heartedly in scientific facts 🤣 😂 😒

[@9395gb]

Stop being kind. Deal in facts

[@ls-l1518]

@@9395gb Being kind is our downfall. Look where it has gotten us. We are still hated. Mybe it's our kindness that provoke men. I have been taken aback by the misogyny I see today. I must have been naive, I thought I wasn't. I believed, women had obtained more rights. But no. Now we aren't even allowed to have our female world, that we after all, always dud have. Now the men are inside the loo.

[@clarityhenderson]

If the heavyweight boxer identifies as featherweight then obviously they should fight in the featherweight class. Hmm?

[@thelimey351]

Dr. Emma Hilton is a brave woman of integrity, we need more people like her. 👏👏

[@RC-qf3mp]

Not really. She goes back and forth between being a biased biologist and political advocate. I agree with a lot of her political advocacy, the problem is she’s producing horrible biological arguments to support it. She’s blinded by her own ideology. Intersex isn’t about identity, it’s about how to classify anomalous cases, and the biology has gray area that Emma is either not fairly acknowledging or is being disingenuous. I just think she’s blinded by her ideology and thinks biology has definitely solved the problem of classifying people with DSDs. It hasn’t, doesn’t and can’t. You’re brainwashed and deceived b/c the interview didn’t have a PANEL of biologists with varying opinions on the biological issue. Having just one biologist makes it look simple and uncontroversial. Wrong. You’ve been misled.

[@janet5846]

​@@RC-qf3mp I've tried posting a question to you, but YT keeps on deleting...odd, not asking anything controversial,.only if you're a biologist yourself? If you are, can you give us a counterpoint to what Dr Emma states please....because she really does not come across as somebody with an agenda. I've read what you said, it seems you have a problem with what she is saying, so if you could give us your counterargument, that would be great

[@lewkor1529]

Emma Hilton is a joke and really off-topic.. Imane Khelif is a woman. (1) She is from Algeria, a deeply conservative Muslim country with an openly anti-LGBT and anti-transgender agenda. I know, I lived there. They would have never endorsed a transgender athlete just to win a medal. (2) Imane lost fights to other women (those women probably need to be interviewed by a creep like Andrew gold. (3) Women with "masculine" traits have always existed. It's well documented in history and anthropology. Imane is no different. That does not make her a man. You guys should read a little

[@BB-kl2iy]

Not so much.

[@RC-qf3mp]

@@janet5846 Emma literally is a political activist in a group that focuses on advocacy. So she’s biased, publicly. As for the biology… there’s a long list of dimensions that can be used for sex differentiation an and categorizing by sex: gamete, gonads, chromosomes, hormones, internal genitalia, external genitalia. People with DSDs can have a hodgepodge of male and female across these dimensions. No one standard of what counts as male or female is compelled by the biology. It’s arbitrary what standard is used for people with DSD. There is gray area to nature in many sciences, and it’s arbitrary how to classify anomalies within the gray area. It becomes arbitrary line drawing. Emma makes it seem crystal clear as if there’s biological consensus. False and misleading.

[@carolwilliams5337]

Outrageous. That is why I did not watch the Olympics this year. The horrible opening ceremony and the biological males invading the women's sports. I don't accept it at all

[@juliemayes2027]

Ditto

[@giftofthewild6665]

Same

[@Popikawaii]

Stop being a sexist fascist please. We won the gender wars 6 years ago. Don't be a sore loser.

[@emjayc9584]

Same

[@Popikawaii]

@carolwilliams5337 you are a sexist fascist.

[@christinadodd5780]

I see this boxer is planning on suing Elon Musk and J.K. Rowling. I'm sure Elon Musk would be willing to pay for testing!

[@truthbtold2843]

That’s why he competed-to get the national recognition so that he could sue Musk and anyone he wants. Now he’ll get air time and become an undeserving millionaire. No product, no industry (someone will shadow-write his biography), just a social media millionaire.

[@Sedef208]

Because of all the bullying? She’s intersex

[@pricklypear7497]

If he wants to out himself in open court, so be it! For the sake of women in sports I hope that this will open the can of worms in full.

[@Jacqli-Rivoli]

Never have I, a biological, heterosexual woman, felt more discriminated, hated and alienated in society as I do in this world today.

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

I agree with you but by saying biological woman, you’re feeding into THEIR narrative. We’re the only type.

[@Bittersweet.Symphony.]

@@SheridanM-dc1nk No she isn't. She is defining and describing herself. And @Jaqli-Rivoli that is the (((plan))). Remove the unique purpose of a woman and the family unit and society is destroyed.

[@Bittersweet.Symphony.]

Tell that to soy teens and woke vegans

[@harutizwemushavatu7215]

I hear you. I feel as if we are being erased in every term of the word, "woman" As women, we cant even identify ourselves as we are. Should we say, "I as a woman" we are lebelled transphobic. We are not afraid of them, we just not want to be erased and I hate the term "cis". I am a woman. I saw a lady going around with a pink t shirt that said, "I am a proud bio woman".

[@allosaurusfragilis7782]

When you say "in society" do you mean in the media, or online, by activists? Or are you experiencing anti women bigotry in everyday life? As a white middle aged male, when I look online, I'm told I'm discriminated against and considered the bottom of the barrel, with centuries of white guilt on my shoulders. However, in everyday life I don't actually encounter any of it. It vould be because I don't live in a big city and I don't work in the media. Those that do consider themselves to be the centre of the universe, whereas the rest of us just go about our everyday, normal lives. If it really bothers you, my advice would be don't look at social media too much and remember the twitter brigade are full of ship.

[@peterjohnson9291]

The irony of the IOC calling another organization corrupt.

[@christking8844]

Hysterical Madness

[@martingannon874]

Anyone who thinks a man beating up a woman is sport, needs to be jailed!

[@johnquincy4533]

Welcome to the world of equal rights. From my own personal experiences it's all an unequal radicalization with an agenda to demasculate the porpoise of what it means to even be man. The idea of a famley home is dieing rapidly.

[@JesusistheonetrueGod]

Lol

[@jujuria13]

Unless the "man" was raised a woman all her entire life?

[@mruncletheredge]

The Woke mind virus at work.....

[@edwardburroughs1489]

Could be the new sport for 2028?

[@CrystalVR2016]

It's beyond scary how easy it is to fool such a large number of people to disbelieve their own eyes.

[@hayleys-w5q]

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" and make no mistake, that's where this is all going.

[@123ABanga]

Probably because if you look at other sports (Rugby is a good example), there are considerably bigger biological females than Khelif. Look at the USA 7's player that just made the front of sports illustrated, I am surprised people aren't asking her to prove she isn't a man. Until there are actually publicly available records that you or I can read on Khelif, there will always be doubts because of other women who are physically far larger (and likely also have elevated testosterone or even XY chromosomes, but haven't had a contoversey yet to highlight it).

[@TheMikesylv]

There is no such thing as a sex change. Eating synthetic hormones and cutting things off doesn’t change your sex . Your still the same sex with a hormonal imbalance and mutilated body. This isn’t cruel it’s just honesty.

[@cristystevens23]

@@TheMikesylv exactly and the suicide rate for ppl who make those changes is thru the roof. Sad but true

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

​​@@cristystevens23 because outside change cannot fix inside problem, if you have a broken lamp you dont go fix your roof for your lamp to work, worst is professionals told them go tear down your roof so you will not need lamps, and now they live in house with no roof when all they needed was fix the lamp

[@SmallFry900]

I don't think that's true @cristystevens23 .

[@NickStarBeats]

@@cristystevens23 not true bud. data does not show that. not sure where' you're pulling that info from.

[@samus6256]

Yup. It is extremely delusional to think they can change it. Personally, I feel bad for the ones who legitimately feel in the wrong ones but not bad at all for the ones doing it for attention and because it is the cool thing.

[@asquare9316]

This whole thing reminds me of the East German female swimmers years ago. Everyone knew that they were being pumped up with steroids and other drugs. However, the IOC acted like nothing was going on. Years later the truth came out. Now, I've heard that they are thinking of giving non-East German athletes from those years medals as if the East Germans weren't there. The truth will come out about these boxers at some point, but too late to be of service to the female athletes at these game that had to fight against them. The IOC is totally complicit, but acts like they are taking the high ground. It's utterly ridiculous. Btw, I don't trust the IBA statements, but I don't doubt what the actual female boxers are feeling and saying. Something is obviously not fair here.

[@michellemooresings]

Oh I did not know that. Wow.

[@joso7228]

The IBA said they were not legally allowed to state the Test Results but hinted that it was obvious that they knew K was a bio man.

[@sonicbloomtuts]

WADA lets US Olympians do the exact same thing now with a legal loophole. Apparently that's always totally different though.

[@deebee22130]

The whole thing reminds me of 1984...!!!!!!! 😡🤬😡

[@mljh11]

I'm curious, why shouldn't we trust the IBA statements on this? Some people claim the IBA has an agenda against Khelif for beating a Russian boxer, but what reason does the IBA have to ban the Taiwanese one? Also, doesn't the fact that the two banned atheletes ultimately chose not to contest the ban suggest that the IBA's tests were correct? Furthermore if she is genetically female Khelif could simply just end all the speculation and social media abuse she's receiving right now by releasing the test results and proving the IBA wrong, why doesn't she do that?

[@parpari20]

I enjoyed listening to your conversations. I'm a doctor, an OBGYN. We have known this DSD for years. Chromosomal defects do happen unfortunately. But the crux of the matter is whether they have XX or XY. XY means male irrespective of how the external genitalia looks like. And they should not participate in XX sports categories. This Paris Olympics is appalling, right from the opening ceremony.

[@Noblebird02]

Glad to see an OBGYN who isn't ideologically captured like Mama doctor Jones. I presume Imane's midwife just observed a female baby

[@SmallFry900]

When you say "this DSD," which one are you referring to?

[@disenfranchising]

but biologists call intersex XY people as female

[@princessadora]

​@@disenfranchising they don't they are all male. females don't have any y

[@cristina8868]

@@disenfranchising because the default phenotype is female.

[@jacquelinethereseplunkett221]

I am a lawyer and no sport should base their fair fighting categories on legal categories...but on science.

[@avi8terrfwg317]

If these athletes believed they were really XX, they would have appealed the test. The fact that they didn't tells you all you need to know.

[@ls-l1518]

Khalief did appeal. Didn't pay for it though. I couldn't figure out if he lost the appeal, or withdrew it.

[@anneking2631]

​@@ls-l1518I think (if I'm correct) he pulled out. The other boxer didn't bother to take it forward

[@avi8terrfwg317]

@@ls-l1518 He withdrew the appeal.

[@alinasmith5737]

​@@ls-l1518she. Even if she might be intersex, that she was assigned female at birth means she probably is genetically mostly xx or x with some abnormalitys maybe. Thats still a woman even of one could argue about eligibility for female events in some cases. Also if she thought the organization is corrupt and she doesnt even have a chnace appealing she might just not bother.

[@redvelvetshoes]

@@alinasmith5737nobody is chromosomes testing if genitalia looks within normal. But they doesn’t mean that’s always correct. But nobody is assigned, and gender identity is not what this is about . Did you even watch the interview ?

[@DaVinci368]

The entire premise of being “trans” is nonsensical. No human can “know” what it “feels like” to be the opposite reproductive sex because there is not a nanosecond of their existance that they experienced what it is “like” to “be” the opposite sex. Additionally words like “I feel like” are subjective. I have yet to meet a woman who can describe what it “feels like” to be a woman. When asked what they say is, “I have no idea. I’m just me.” Equally, no female can make a sensible for believable claim that she “knows” she is actually a man because she “feels” like one. How would she know what it is to be a biological male? She has never been one. Not for one tenth of one second of her existance even before her birth.

[@ransakreject5221]

Strange that only on gender does how we feel matter. If I feel Mexican I’m still Irish. If I feel like a Virgo I’m still Sagittarius. If I feel young I’m still middle aged. I can feel rich but I still drive a shitbox. It’s amazing that naive strait women don’t see the logical contradictions with gender ideology. I was raised by idiot hippies being told males can like dolls n girls can fight.. I was still attracted to rough housing and became a champion wrestler.. and my sister to romance novel crap. Now the hippies that raised me (my 20 year older half brother and his wife) are old and say shit about trans rights. I say “But all my youth you said males can be girlie cause sex doesn’t dictate your interest… Now only girls like dolls???” And they just can’t see the logical contradiction. Doesn’t help that they are morons.

[@megaloschemos9113]

Very true. They would need to prove that what they 'feel' is exactly what people of their opposite sex is experiencing. Which is impossible to do.

[@mikehynek]

Yes, when my ex girlfriends daughter said she felt like a man when she bands her tits, I laughed for an hour..... then I took a pee standing up and laughed some more.

[@user-fq1oj2tr3v]

I said something similar about feelings and yt accused me of having speech.

[@icelara5972]

You cannot even prove what anyone is feeling whatever their gender. It's all 🐂

[@TheAllisonLab]

I can't anymore. I'm just boycotting the Olympics altogether and forever. Male is male and female is female. End of effing story.

[@GodSmoko]

So a girl thats born without a penis and has peroids is a dude cool good on you for taking a strong stance makes lots of sense

[@mariaashot5648]

Amen. Same here. Forever. Another formerly beautiful, family-friendly thing ruined - ruined by maniacal, egotistical, addle-brained old Men.

[@cherylreaves253]

I couldn’t agree more.

[@taramay8174]

I haven't been watching it. Never will again

[@charlenelorn560]

Yep. How I feel too.

[@richardmarkham8369]

I still don't know why all the 100% female boxers didn't just boycot the Olympics. They should have all just stood in the ring for each bout, arms folded. It's a massive step back for Womens rights.

[@susanbond6798]

If you want to be talking about Women's Rights, this is the least of our concerns. How about salary equality, workplace parity, and the repeal of Roe v Wade? This is an inflammatory subject that has medical nuances most people do not want to understand

[@jeanbrown8295]

@@richardmarkham8369 I do wonder why this madness has come about,no one can think it is right.Maybe there are people who do want women not to compete in sports,and if women refuse to compete against biological men,then they will succeed

[@jeanbrown8295]

@@susanbond6798 this is exactly what we need to be talking about for women’s rights,women already have equal rights for most everything else.But not this or their right to their own spaces.

[@richardmarkham8369]

@@susanbond6798 Agree totally, but this video is about sport and for the female athletes, I am sure it is their biggest concern. I don't think it is nuanced at all. It doesn't matter how female you are in your head, or if some of your body hasn't developed, all the (very obvious) masculine traits you get from having testosterone made in large quantities, by your own testies, gives you a massive and unfair advantage. Its no different to doping. If the IOC can't figure out how to tell males from females, why even bother with doing it? Just lump everyone in together. Going by mindset and passport is just pointless.

[@CAK10111]

Massive amounts of bullying and gaslighting is why

[@OscarFrosty]

Sex does matter and it's baffling to me that there are people out there that are trying to convince themselves that it doesn't. Sex does matter.

[@carljansen3118]

Because its needed to maintain their current existence. I've lost a lot of friends because of my stance on this. Good riddance, but a lot don't want/can't go through with it. I think that has a lot to do with people's ongoing use of blinkers

[@banedon8087]

Indeed it does but they think that they can overcome biology and reality with their beliefs. It can seemingly work for short period of time then reality-backed biologically bites them and others solidly on the backside.

[@Killakutz69]

​@@banedon8087Yes some people choose to live in their own fantasy land. I don't know why MSM panders to it though. If any MSM came out and called out all the BS they would be outrageously viewed and popular.

[@natalieanimal4063]

In cases like this, they claim it doesn't matter. It suddenly does if, for example, one 'identifies as non-binary/agender/whatnot' but still wants to participate. Then they say it's their sex that allows them to, even though it doesn't fit whatever they think is their gender.

[@Timtrozzo1958]

So,if a biological male boxer legally becomes a female he can compete in the woman's category in the Olympics,even if he isn't on female hormones?According to the IOC?

[@johnobrien8398]

The olympics is a disgrace

[@user-pd7wc3xs4q]

This Paris Olympics in particular is an absolute disgrace, from the disgusting opening, the filthy Seine River, the woke judgements and a whole lot of rubbish. Thankfully, after I saw the opening few minutes on replay, I have decided not to watch any of it. But one cannot miss the controversies that stand out in the news and podcasts.

[@dannylaing5585]

me too

[@johnarbuthnott3445]

they used to call domestic abuse a man beating up a women

[@Monkey_PNut]

​@@user-pd7wc3xs4qThe worst is that these wokes answer the rage of the church with ' oh we're very sorry we didn't mean to upset you .'.which just amplifies the insult...adding their gaslighting..as if They're innocent. . Which is an insult to the world intelligence

[@moraymac2922]

Agreed. Made a point of NOT watching.

[@Bill-ni3es]

There has to be testing protocols for the Olympics. Protocols based on science - not based on what is on an athlete's passport. IOC trying to be politically correct, while putting women in danger. Women's rights have been thrown out the window.

[@end_of_the_world-v8g]

They do this for years. 5-ARD is surprisingly over represented among the Olympic athlete for some reason...

[@peypeepoupou]

You really think someone from Algeria in a religious community where homosexuality is not even allowed or brought to school got born and just randomly got a different sex on their passport cause they are “woke”? Even if they “transition” you would not come further than makeup in Algeria, there are no sex change operations etc. And you think in her rural small strict village where they were even against her working out as a girl would accept that and promote that let alone send someone to the olympics representing their country. I see westerners yapping about this when they are the only ones actually following the woke craze you guys are now accusing her of? Cmon be forreal.

[@sherryjohnson3804]

​Has nothing to do with being woke, they were raised as a female ect, they not transgender they just got it wrong, he has xy chromosomes, making him a male no matter how wrong his family, community got it​@@peypeepoupou

[@roshay6379]

​@@peypeepoupou Who is "her"? That's a man.

[@geoffbucks5803]

Why do you need a test ?? if he was born with a penis hes a bloke - whats the difficulty in that ?

[@user-mv6rk5ft1i]

Take that gold medal away from him immediately and disqualify him.

[@SovereignStatesman]

No, she can keep the gold medal if she beats the man.

[@cutiecaz]

​@@SovereignStatesmanNo. HE can keep the medal if HE beats a male.

[@user-oi2ex4bt1e]

Yes, please 🙏

[@sophiaerling7714]

This is never going to happen. Because there are other dimensions to this than biology. And that is why the IOC was allowing Imane in the competition: Religion and Politics. Somehow this scandal points at two things: a country (a population) and a religion that both have a strong history with France. Do not forget that those olympics were at high risk and that everything had to be prepared to avoid any trouble, riot, plot, terrorist act. Among certain people, saying that she was a man was a crime. They say " She was made a woman" ... by a;l;l;a;h meaning that they only trust what they see and do not believe in the scientific knowledge of chromosomes; excluding her would have had so many consequences for France security. I do not justify anything; I just want to give my opinion about why they let this happen.

[@iara_pimenta]

The reality of XX and XY is a simple thing. Controversy over simple things is very annoying.

[@sylviazmartnomad7707]

VERY!

[@azzaaz5458]

So by your logic the one in 20,000 phenotype boys that are born with x x chromosome will, despite having a penis, grow up to be women?

[@carmenmccauley585]

Yup. If it's a y it's a guy. Simple

[@azzaaz5458]

@@carmenmccauley585 so by that logic the one in 20000 phenotype boys that are born x x chromosome will, despite having the penis, grow up to be women?

[@SmallFry900]

I highly recommend an article in Scientific American called "Beyond XX and XY: The Extraordinary Complexity of Sex Determination."

[@Corteum]

Is there anyone who actually believes that "identifying as a woman" is the same as "being a woman" or "transforming into a woman"?

[@mjjveritas2]

No man can transform into a woman. Genetics prevents it.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

Some people really are that dumb, yes. But no one can ‘transform’ into a woman, unless by transforming you mean being conceived as female and not dying before puberty. (The puberty is what transforms a girl into a woman.) Sex change is not possible in humans or any other mammals.

[@JustMeUpNorth]

Nope. That’s why they have to bully, tantrum and use the law to make people play along. We all know it’s a lie.

[@yolandiecrause1971]

Nope, then I can say I identify as a Chinese person because I love chinese people, the culture and food, or for whatever crazy reason, I want to become one...and I am a white South African female.

[@boualbanisally4009]

Do you really beleive that Algeria a muslim country allow the LBGT... Alphabet madness ?

[@merrywalsh2809]

The IOC is trampling on the rights of women. This is so ignorant. As an RN, I understand clearly the biological issues and agree 100% with your guest.

[@SmallFry900]

Do you believe women with chromosomal disorders should be allowed to compete in non-contact sports?

[@timsexton]

@theculturecrash8451 RN = Registered Nurse

[@jackiehopkins3686]

There are 2 sex male and female who is this boxer?

[@nachtrevi82]

Think that at first , the IOC ruled that TIMs could indeed participate into female events as long as they kept their Testosterone levels in the 10nmol/l range. Nmol as a measure isn't that widely used ( it's very common with private/ telemedicine ) but still the internationally recognised and most used measure is Ng/DL ( nano grams per deciliter of blood ). Well you need to know that when we translate nmol in Ng we have 288 Ng/DL and with that my friend no males would qualify for testosterone replacement therapy. So you won't get treatment as a male with those levels but can participate into female competition. Isn't that funny isn't it. Consider that an elite female athlete of 17-27yo range can reach about 80ng/DL while males of the same age goes from high 700 up to 1100ng/DL Also we never hear these people talking about sex hormone binding globulin that barely changes with exogenous estrogen and that's very crucial to the issue ( of TIMs in female sports, not this specific case ) since it's a protein that takes "this much" of the free ( unbound ) testosterone in plasma and directs it to AR the androgen receptors. Oh you're a nurse so you know all about this. Sending love❤

[@christinadodd5780]

💯 RN, too! KZbin removed my comment.. All facts about this medical condition. But we know YT doesn't want people to believe in biology anymore.

[@utp216]

I’m happy to see this is openly being talked about. So many people just won’t say it and bury their head in the sand.

[@Nettsinthewoods]

They are afraid of the vitriol. I’ve seen people online being utterly vile - as JK Rowling suffered.

[@TheBasedArtist]

Everyone celebrating Khelif winning and arguing she’s a woman needs to take an hour out of their lives to listen to this brilliant lesson in biology.

[@earlstromer6821]

Just the fact that you said "she" is a woman, is a WRONG STATEMENT. You should have said "HE" is a woman.

[@RC-qf3mp]

@@TheBasedArtist the ‘lesson’ in biology does nothing to answer the POLICY question of what standard should be used for determining who gets to compete in women’s boxing. The biology is twofold - there’s the genotype of sex and the phenotype of sex. Intersex people have the genotype of one sex but phenotype of the other. So which standard to use? It’s totally, literally, technically and logically ARBITRARY which standard gets used. Historically, for 99% of human history, the phenotype is used - that means looking between the legs of the newborn to see if there’s a penis and testicles. If so, it’s a boy. If not, it’s a girl. Genital inspection was also used in the Olympics for the first several decades. It got changed b/c women found it invasive. You think the issue is more simple than it is, and the biologist did nothing to address the core problem, because she doesn’t get it. The problem is one of policy, not biology, because the biology is consistent with a phenotype standard as well as a genotype standard, and doesn’t compel one or the other.

[@TheBasedArtist]

@@RC-qf3mp it is simple. XY Chromosomes, you don’t compete with women with XX. The Olympics checking their passport and accepting it is ridiculous. All athletes should be tested anyway. If there is a questionable athlete, they should definitely accept to being tested.

[@stevesproul1627]

The IOC committee are a disgrace, I bet not one of them would get in the ring with these men!

[@cbxk1xg]

Are you trans?

[@Mark-IamNum1]

How can the IOC be taken seriously, when they let men compete against women - if nothing else, the danger is too great. When ideology trumps reality and women's rights.

[@WolfHeathen]

I mean with an opening ceremony like that, who's really surprised?

[@g_323]

Yes, but the message is not only against women. The message is the only true is power; even the power of doing nothing.

[@LeanneNEWTON]

When the IOC made the policy that they were going to rely on an athlete's passport gender, they have failed every woman born athlete in the World. Why not have a transgender category where they compete against each other? This was the main reason that disabled athletes no longer compete with able bodied athletes....because it was UNFAIR for them to be competing against each other. the same can be said for transgender females (who have XY chromosomes) competing with biological born females. It is NO DIFFERENT...it is UNFAIR!!!!

[@NDAsDontCoverIllegalActs]

29:30 listen for a minute or two.

[@foryourlugsonly]

They scored an own goal stating that in public. In the UK you can get a passport after a couple years and a legal name change to female and female sex after a coupe years. You don't need to look female. So instep 6 ft giga Chad's next olympics

[@florac6906]

Transgender / DSD category

[@jeradw7420]

The simple answer is to allow any transgender to compete in the men's categories. Then no human would have a biological advantage over any other that is genetically and practiced enough to compete at that level and other men already expect the competition to be a challenge so nothing would change for them either.

[@abdennourhamouche]

Just speculating nothing credible. To me this is complete nonsense and hypocrisy.

[@Marlen-CruzCommercial_2023]

That man is going to get sued for going up against a woman by lying about his gender. Attempted murder is what he should be charged for.

[@Sedef208]

She’s a women. She has DSD.

[@s3any1977]

I'm a fan of combat sports. I investigated before I said anything. I read that Khelif was Intersex. Discussed that if they have an XY chromosome and elevated Testosterone they should not be fighting in the women's arena. End of. Above all it's dangerous for the women. I still got gas lit. Back in 2013 there was Fallon Fox who was a T man and was allowed to fight in MMA. The result was he fractured a female opponents skull. This Dr was excellent.

[@xXxScrattiexXx]

even when people with DSDs themselves speak up about this madness we get gaslit. Its exhausting.

[@mardyroux8136]

It's all about the Y chromosome. If you have one, you are male.

[@alia9087]

@@mardyroux8136 that should be the bottom line, no other discussion needed

[@jfryer485]

It could be worse. He could be a completely male. A male weight lifter identified as a female just to beat another man spoiling the sport. He not only won but broke every female record ever. Despite identifying as a female falsely his record stands.

[@mjjveritas2]

@@mardyroux8136 It doesn't matter how many xxxx's they have, if they have a "y" in there, they are male, not female.

[@RachelL421]

What a great example of an outstanding female academic in her field, using both the science and common sense to highlight the absurdity of protecting people’s gender preferences over safety. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@psycho-i9e]

But they are trying to silence her, accusing her of being transfobic and engaging in hate crime to shut her up;

[@vertigoz]

Gender preference? When she had been born with a vagina? Gender preference was if she choose to be a man despite of it...

[@tuxitalk1World]

​@@psycho-i9eThey would do that to God if he said the same thing. I wear the unscientific words of insult by the left as a badge of honor.

[@ruthpetetson3927]

Condoning sin never has a good outcome.

[@vertigoz]

@@ruthpetetson3927 bless your heart. you are born XY with a vagina, what is your sin? Perhaps the sin is on the Creator... does it make any sense? Don't be grotesque

[@NatalieTimeBank]

IOC: rights but not women's rights

[@jayhanson-hs5vg]

the left does not care about female rights or safety

[@JasonYork-b3i]

After everything women have done to society, maybe they DO need to get in the ring with men and get punched in the face? Good on them, really. Good sports!

[@jonahtwhale1779]

Women demanded equal rights for men and women. Now women demand wonen-only rights? Which do they want special treatment or equality - can't have both?

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@jonahtwhale1779 Wtf are you on about, mate? Women wanting sports to be split into make and female categories is wanting “special treatment?!” Are you “all there?”

[@carlyellison8498]

We are created equal, big ot. ​@@anti-ethniccleansing465

[@maxinefreeman8858]

I was a new nurse in the newborn nursery back in early 90's. A baby was born with labia and a micro penis. Our pediatrician talked to a geneticist. He wanted to know if bodily functions were normal , they were. The baby went home without being called either sex. I remember what our pediatrician said. He said now we have DNA testing, ultrasound to find out what was going on. He said they used to make them girls because it was easier. Back then they drew blood to test for DNA. They needed to wait 8 weeks to get the blood from the infant. Of course I've never known what happened to the baby.

[@msinbalony]

You had me at 'The BBC is lying'.

[@coffee6783]

🤣👍

[@kate2.0.]

Haha. Me too

[@goa9034]

The BBC is full of pervs Just sayin

[@janemacdonald3732]

Basically if the BBC newsreaders mouth moves they are lying under orders of the BBC management

[@jayhanson-hs5vg]

yup the truth is easy to see

[@user-nh8rw9ek9g]

They gave him a golden medal... This is disgusting

[@geoffbucks5803]

shameful a disgrace to all the females he beat

[@mjjveritas2]

@@geoffbucks5803 He didn't beat, he STOLE.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Like a knighthood, re. Saville, Starmer etc... it's not a badge of honour.

[@ingiford175]

@@mjjveritas2 No he beat many women on his way to stealing the gold medal.

[@mjjveritas2]

@@ingiford175 Why are you saying"No"? He stole EVERY round where he was declared the winner, and he stole the Gold medal. So every round where he supposedly "beat" the woman, he didn't actually "beat" the women, he stole the win in every round.

[@jessicabarber5224]

Something people need to accept is that not everyone can participate in everything. If you have an unfair advantage and dont want to compete in the harder catagory then you just dont get to play period. It sucks for them but thats reality. We need to quit bending over backwards for an extreamly small minority.

[@kathrynbaker8215]

100% agree

[@xwr3ksh0px]

Amazingly I think you’re the only person I’ve seen say this apart from me lol sports are privileges, not rights, if you’re questionable you just can’t compete unless you can qualify for the men, idk why it’s so hard for people to understand this

[@SkepticalTeacher]

Funny how we never have to have this conversation about inclusion in men's elite sports... hmmm, I wonder why...?

[@lisabarrero3052]

We all know why. Equality wouldn't be the same. It's soo frustrating.

[@Ilovecleanlaundry]

😂 yep.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Just a matter of time. They're still essentially what they were so they will inevitably start complaining and demanding that others pamper them

[@DaibhidhBhoAlba]

Because men's sports, like men generally, get dumped on with absolutely everyone and anything. Men don't get their own spaces or sports. Women have been given special treatment for decades and just don't want to give it up.

[@forestmanification]

Because having the "super power" of having the strength of a regular man won't fare that well in the men's elite competitions.

[@richardanson2445]

We live in surreal times where the ‘official’ voice says the emperor has clothes. God only knows how many people still believe the BBC’s opposite view to the truth.

[@X1304d]

It's such a disgrace, they entirely ignored the Y chromosome advantage and allowed two individuals who over went male puberty to beat up XX women.

[@cinuk]

Swyer syndrome affects girls who have an XY chromosomal makeup, no ovaries, but functional female organs including the uterus, fallopian tubes and vagina.

[@johnquincy4533]

Yep based on whats printed on a passport.

[@sharongaston2815]

And get Olympic medals for it!! Its disgusting!!

[@alexd5128]

XY for male and XX for female is high school level biology. The determining factor is actually one level deeper, ie. the SRY gene. If a person with XY chromosome but the SRY gene is not activated, this person can still develop into a female. Likewise, if SRY is activated in the XX chromosome, a male person is forthcoming. What we need is testing for SRY activation instead of the crude XY vs XX chromosome method.

[@CindyRiesling]

@@sharongaston2815two gold medals!

[@saikatbis]

I’m never ever ever ever gonna teach my child/children social norms which are against biology or any form of core science.

[@jeremyneilsen4989]

I was born on the 60s. As i grew older, I was thinking that the future will give us flying cars, cancer cure etc.. and here we are debating what is a woman. Geez

[@SovereignStatesman]

Well think about it, when were these hermaphrodites ever prevented from competing? As long as they’re not on drugs, they were given a free pass since forever.

[@sheribrougham4863]

Same as me. I thought life was going to improve. We have gone backwards.

[@caroleeb.5783]

Boy, I hear you! Where are the Jetsons when you need them? George and Jane would be shocked! Is the human race getting stupid? It seems what she is talking about very rare.

[@1alex1hill]

But we know with certainty that there are biological development issues that put some folks in a gray area. It could happen with any baby.

[@jeremyneilsen4989]

@@1alex1hillthere’s no gray area in my opinion. It’s either you are male or female. The rest are just made belief.

[@brucepinkerton2716]

IOC has basically said ‘this is the end of female competition’

[@madmelwood3778]

Agree xxd

[@danielleschiazza6172]

U know we can't believe the big bad Russians! 😂 that is the excuse we're getting of course.

[@kicksandy]

Life has been unfair to those two boxers, but having DSD doesn't give them their carte blanche to bully women.

[@anferFFmax]

Life was even more unfair to those women they were beating. That Italian athlete not only got beaten to shit, but she also endured truly horrendous bullying online. Yet, the only bullying they are calling out is what the two males are getting.

[@gailhicks6547]

Some Men feel entitled.

[@pnwlady]

Imam was very gracious. If she is intersex then it’s a conundrum. As a woman who’s larger than the average man, it does happen. Imam is massive. Maybe we need something like weight classes in wrestling for more sports.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

Funny how victims of circumstance are only important when they're male.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

​@@pnwladyIntersex is an inaccurate term because it implies "neither male or female". This is incorrect. A person with a Disorder of Sexual Development (DSD) is still either male or female.

[@user-rf4vx5cv3g]

How inhumane it is to put a man to box a female. That’s cruel. The man broke the woman’s nose the force of a man’s blow it far greater than a woman’s. I love this woman. Quite knowledgeable and competent .

[@user-rf4vx5cv3g]

Dr Emma you have hit the nail on the head. Test them !

[@user-rf4vx5cv3g]

The IOC knows the facts they are just trying to take the honesty out of the sport to appease themselves.

[@suewillard4483]

Didn't one of the head honchos of the Olympics state yesterday that they are not capable of determining what is a man or what is a woman?? This world has gone absolutely bonkers!!!

[@aburg6393]

And it is so sad and horrible what is happening

[@cjade5394]

Really? People are dying from bomb blast in war zones, starvation and disease, crying over sports is a privilege in comparison

[@zephsmith3499]

@@cjade5394 No need for you to eat today or pay your electric bill or wipe your bum either, given how absurdly trivial those are in comparison to war, starvation, and disease. Nor does it matter if your child graduates or fails, or if your car falls apart after 5,000 miles. The entire earth is going to be consumed by the Sun eventually! But we all still deal with, and care about, the smaller things anyway. Despite the Holocaust, or the risk of nuclear warfare. I don't think that's privilege, it's more the human condition. Not wiping your bum won't make war go away, so wipe away even if that feels like a privilege to you.

[@user-iv8mc8qw1u]

That is sad. And they are afraid to defend woman.

[@ingiford175]

Yep, and he continued saying that because of that they must 'believe in the passport' because there is no scientific way to tell the difference.

[@XXXX-yc6wv]

The IOC and media gaslighting around this particular athlete is outrageous.

[@Ldndiebrwt44]

And now the western leftist want to use him politically

[@toddsutherland1003]

Qui bono? The beneficiaries of this particular, highly gambled upon sport, are the people who put Kelif in, and have money on the table.

[@GinoBlaze9788]

@@toddsutherland1003 Not the russian IBA who runs betting markets, redirected sponsorship to state run company gazaprom, whos undefeated protege lost to Imane and suddenly they called attention to it? Who've been under severe scrutiny for countless scandals like fight fixing and organized crime, who administered an "unspecified test that didn't check testosterone levels" and made claims of "XY" but no mention of the sex determining region (SRY) that would actually be the scientifically agreed upon method of spotting athletic based advantage. They wouldn't have anything to gain eh?

[@thorsrensen3162]

I was so depressed after I saw all the MSM reporting about Khelif and the president of IOC, but then I watched this interview with the amazing Emma Hilton. I took it in one go and felt so optimistic again. The best interview I have seen in a long time, great conversation and energy. And what a beautiful lady she is.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

Been following her on Twitter for years. She’s amazing. No one can defeat her.

[@thorsrensen3162]

@@slacktoryrecords4193 I could imagine. She is an fabulous communicator and combined with her sign language with arms and hands it makes her very captivating.

[@theathea3064]

My question is, will anything be done? Will anybody speak up for biological women's rights in this? Do we form our own sports? Like biological women's sports only?

[@thorsrensen3162]

@@theathea3064 Who should speak up.

[@theathea3064]

@@thorsrensen3162 women and men who believe this is unfair to biological women. It is and it must be stopped!

[@nrodry76]

Being Khelif born with xy chromosomes, internal testes and NO OVARIES?!?! That’s a male!!

[@Etrielle]

But also the outward appearance of a female (no penis). So most correct term is intersex

[@AK-bw8xk]

The fact that we are arguing about female or male gender shows how far we have fallen in logical thought, society, ect....😢

[@KnottyCeltic]

Yep, In Canada we can be charged and convicted of a hate crime if we refuse to call a person by their chosen (and demanded) pronouns. Now there is another Bill before Legislature to include the same "compelled speech" online. Both pieces of legislation are punishable by a fine and/or jail time. I will take the jail time and the Canadian Govt. can go to H ELL. So in public and in the workplace we are compelled to use those terms and soon we may well be compelled to do it online as well even though the pronoun is a fantasy not based in any fact at all.

[@madmelwood3778]

Exactly

[@anumatis]

@@KnottyCeltic 😲

[@RellikReyalp]

Sure but Iman would be considered a woman thoughout all history since thats what it looks like down there. Its the labwork here that shows she isnt.

[@user-vf2mi7sz5f]

@@KnottyCeltic This should be taken to court to stop it i hope elon musk would sponsor a court case on this

[@clareowen2047]

Thank goodness for this woman. I’m sick of this post truth world.

[@DaysGoneByForgottenHistory]

The fact that the competitors KNOW their medical condition speaks volumes about their character. A person with integrity and morals would eliminate THEMSELVES from the competition. Instead, they choose to publicly beat (literally) women and call it a "sport".

[@HAPPYPLANTGAL]

Pretty obvious a deep seated hate towards women.

[@beateerdmann4769]

...or a deep deep hurt and a heartfelt jealousy. Imagine how much easier their lives would be without all this mess, but to just really be a woman!

[@laragara]

​@@beateerdmann4769 That sounds more like a _male_ reaction - maybe they'd rather just have normal fully formed external male genitalia!

[@SovereignStatesman]

These countries are not exactly based on integrity and morals! Seriously, Latvia? Or that other country with the she male in Asia?

[@dreamteamyl4655]

XX you compete as Women, XY you compete as men. You can identify as a man or a women or a nothing...it really doesn't matter how you identify yourself, but in sports, XX is women, XY is men. How simple can it get beyond?

[@sifu2u_now]

IBA was there in Paris to stand by their XY claims and did so publicly. If it’s a false test by IBA as claimed by the Olympics committee , why didn’t IOC officials just sue them in court for defamation and misinformation ? Or for that matter, both ALGERIA and TAIWAN olympics sports authorities have the right to sue IBA in court for Defamation and false claims for tarnishing their country representatives in the sports. It’s strange that they are not doing that!

[@briantbmoth6472]

No one ever questioned the IBA’s independent results either.

[@user-dj7nl3cv3q]

The athletes themselves did not fight the decision to be excluded by the IBA. Yes.. a bit of malice thought but...maybe they did not want to be ' proven wrong in arbitration' as this would be tougher for the IOC to.dismiss. Also knowing that the IOC manages the eligibility for.the Olympics...being disqualified at the world championships and not fight it was the price to pay.

[@user-dj7nl3cv3q]

The athletes had the opportunity to.fight the IBA findings....

[@zeb33369]

​@@user-dj7nl3cv3qthis right here 💯

[@nataliax4989]

As far as I am informed, Algerian athlete filed his claim against IBA, but then took it back as tge results would have been disclosed to the public. Well, isn't it clear then what this means?

[@kevinporter3212]

Maybe the female boxers should crowd fund and sue the IOC for putting them in danger. Ideologues are incredibly dangerous because their opinions are more important than science based evidence.

[@dilafng]

Yes! I’d donate to that.

[@Remake5182]

Imane got her ass kicked by multiple women, she ain't strong.

[@colmmcdonnell6256]

Yes that is the best idea .sue get the ioc to pay for this .the worlds gone mad and this needs to be stopped.

[@user-pd7wc3xs4q]

I would contribute if you ladies do so

[@samus6256]

It's amazing to me the people during the Pandemic always said Trust the science but as soon as you use that science on Gender / Sex all you get is REEreREERee

[@susanengel-ix8bl]

The day that men were allowed to box women on the world stage at the Olympics was the day that will never bevable to be taken back! That's was unforgivable to watch a man beat on a woman and get away with it!!

[@FiveContinental]

The obvious lack of natural female restraint in physical interactions with the men on her team speaks the truth louder than any words Khelif offers publicly. One picture shows Khelif on the coach‘s shoulders, the coach‘s head between Khelif’s legs, his hands on his/her naked thighs. Another picture shows Khelif enthusiastically jumping at the coach, pressing his head against the coach‘s chest. There is a video of the fight against Carini where Khelif ends up getting out of the ring and being led to the exit. Suddenly Khelif pulls up his shirt in front of his chest, obviously to take it off, and is stopped. All behaviors that do not happen impulsively in women, but are not abnormal in men.

[@user-w29vfwh59vd]

above all that, culturally in a predominantly muslim country this type of behaviour is a big no-no.

[@extanegautham8950]

Protect females and protect female sports. Boycott the Olympics...

[@cjade5394]

No😂

[@derekng958]

Cheating is not winning, he is a man !

[@rzella8022]

Protect motherhood and families, that build strong nations, not sports or the Olympics.

[@ronwhite8021]

No, do not boycott the Olympics, fight for testing to preserve the e fair competition as a whole. Fight it by filing lawsuit against the Olympic Committee... Certainly long before the next olympics, or it'll be too late

[@4000Wiggins]

I received an email this morning from Reddit telling me my account had been flagged for harassment after i was in a back and forth about this Olympic boxer, and i shared the link to this interview in the exchange. I felt i was respectful throughout the conversation, and if there was any vitriol expressed it was most definitely coming from the people who were having the conversation with me. I felt as if i was being targeted for having the “wrong” ideas.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

That’s Reddit for you. Most toxic social media platform there is.

[@RCGWho]

I've had my account shut down repeatedly for addressing this and/or questioning Brandon Biggs prophecy about Donald Trump. They never tell you what you said wrong other than someone told on you for hate speech or the yt bots flagged you for being politically incorrect.

[@sheriv7677]

You probably were.

[@carolhutch7741]

I got flagged by youtube for same thing.

[@meganmishler3979]

Reddit absolutely does that.

[@TJ-um8ce]

My wife worked with DSD patients early on her career... this is what she said: "The chromosomes don't lie. He's a maIe. End of story."

[@caitm8209]

What is her career, and in what capacity was she working with intersex patients?

[@adrianvanleeuwen]

These 2 men competing in Women's boxing know the only way they can win a medal is to win in a women's boxing category when they cannot win in mens boxing.

[@gadheroo]

The IOC suspended a female wrestler for not meeting the required weight, but are okay with men in women's boxing.

[@stacyb-r6931]

Always treating women in this authoritarian way. Even in health insurance.

[@FlamorineFashions-yy7ji]

Ridiculous, right?

[@mrw_6462]

It's quite ironic that the IOC labels the IBA as corrupt ....

[@raksh9]

Both things can be true.

[@Artificial_Incompetence_Bot]

​@@raksh9 but if you have no evidence we have no reason to think its true, do we? "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" -Christopher Hitchens

[@willem1642]

IBA is run by a Russian mafia boss that disqualified someone after they defeated a Russian.

[@UNCHART3DGAMING]

Pot calling the kettle black

[@bevferguson3438]

A simple saliva and blood test is all that IOC needs to end this controversy. Why are they not doing it? Their lack of transparency is what is causing this mess..they test for doping but not gender? Seriously?

[@DrunkComments]

I hope there is a lawsuit forcing a dna test and a large payout to these female athletes that had their olympic dreams destroyed Shame on ioc

[@martinharris5017]

There HAS been a DNA test (which is why he was banned from other boxing events) but the IOC chose to go with identity and feelings rather than science.

[@samus6256]

And all medals taken away!

[@lauracook8203]

So why is it that no trans men ever try to compete in male sports?

[@user-w29vfwh59vd]

They know they'll get beaten because real men have male advantage. On the other hand trans women know they have male advantage over real women, that's why they want to compete against women.

[@maryrye707]

I’m assuming this is a rhetorical question.

[@OrbSpider]

What a crazy world when a man one who has XY Chromosomes can say they are a woman XX Chromosomes. Yet if anyone questions this fact, they are described as being hateful or sexist for questioning this fact!

[@derekng958]

Cheating is not winning, he is a man !

[@fyounsi]

@@derekng958really ? Are you sure ?

[@cheechoyliew7480]

A Frenchman started the modern Olympics in 1896 and the Frenchmen destroyed the modern Olympics in 2024

[@spirogiannaki]

No the modern olympics 1896 where the best in the best of the old Olympics. Since then all where stupid.

[@tuxitalk1World]

​@@spirogiannakiNo, the Olympics were fine until they left professional athletes in and now have very confused people making a mockery of women's sports.

[@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon]

He thinks he said something profound

[@MKEditsxx]

I feel so sorry for all the female boxers who worked so hard for 4 years and more to have their achievements robbed of them

[@MagicalMikhail]

They may have prepared for this olimpic event for 4 years, let's not forget they have been training literally their whole lives.

[@Acaciadentalcentre]

I just saw the news that the Algerian and Taiwanese boxer won their gold medal fights and both delivered "crushing" defeats to their female opponents. By the way: Taiwan pays $720k for Olympic gold medal, so we can expect a huge influx of males in Olympic sports during the next Olympic games.

[@atunwel7607]

I have refused to watch the boxing in these Olympic’s due to the two men winning the ladies boxing. Feel sad for the woman that should have won these medals and have been robbed of them.

[@tuxitalk1World]

I refuse to watch any sports events where the organizers think a man with a penis can be a woman.

[@greghdn]

They accept to compete with a male. It's their decision at the end.

[@andvil01]

As a biologist. If you have gone through a male puberty, you shall not compete against people who have not. Especially not in combat sports. We men get so much 'for free" that women have to train for years to even come close and most never will. If the sport is to hit each other in the face, it is dangerous to let people with male puberty to go up against women.

[@Marloez82]

It’s so easy to understand that it makes me angry this is even a discussion at all. People have lost their mind.

[@bonnie_gail]

100%

[@lewisgreen5910]

I'm 25 and 99% of people I know will absolutely slaughter me If I reposted any of this video. My generation is completetly oblivious to the truth

[@sylviazmartnomad7707]

I agree. It is very easy to understand. The thing is people can't peel off the distractions.Mind too busy.

[@Stumpybear7640]

I agree. This is not rocket science!

[@MG-uy3ie]

After the fact that some idiots couldnt answer "what is a woman?" Im not surprised we having this conversation now. Definatelly shows that education system is failing and idiots who prefer feelings to knowledge have taken over

[@andreaslack8379]

Trans woman here, I box for fun, do not compete. Despite a quarter century of hormone treatment, and being well past my prime, I would have no fear boxing any of these olympic class women boxers. Yes I am not as strong as I once was, but the difference between men and women is so large that I still retain a huge advantage. From what I seen Imane certainly looks like a significant developmental advantage over the women.

[@Noblebird02]

Imane is bigger than the referee. She looks like the sexy Algerian man had her y chromosome worked and the sexy Algerian woman she could have been had the superior sperm hit the egg. Only the effect is not twice the sexy it's just uncanny

[@elenawilliams32]

Just curious, do you use the female changing rooms/showers?

[@LillaTwiggy]

@@elenawilliams32such an irrelevant question. And quite frankly, rude.

[@kamlahari5369]

Imane isnt a Transwoman. She is a man born in a male body who got misgendered as female by her Delivery Room Doctor because she looked female externally as a baby.

[@kamlahari5369]

Imane isnt a Transwoman. She is a man born in a male body who got misgendered as female by her Delivery Room Doctor because she looked female externally as a baby.

[@Perjoss]

the fact that they are trying to get Emma fired is disgusting, she's a professional in her field doing her job, they just don't like what she's saying. That the f is going on in this world

[@revbores]

There are women boxers who hit much harder than Imane . This woman has been boxing ...and losing for years. Only when she finally starts winning do people like Emma spout their uninformed opinion She has NO personal knowledge of Imani's medical history.

[@FreebornLivingWoman]

​​@@revboresEmma is not saying she does know anything about the medical history of this individual Iman. Do you? The fact that the IBA wrote to the IOC and voiced their concerns which were not acted upon says it all, and Emma mentions this fact

[@binary7775]

@@revboresyou are the one spouting an uninformed opinion. Emma is a biologist, she is speaking about biological facts, facts that all biologists know which you would know if you knew anything about biology.

[@BoomstickFTW]

Is that seriously happening? What the fvck is wrong with this world?

[@derekng958]

Cheating is not winning, he is a man !

[@Pigmyta]

I am a woman and I used to do boxing on a hobby lvl. Due to a percentage of women in this sport I used to train with men and their advantage, even if it's absolute untrained newcomer, is through the roof. The fact Khelif is able to compete like this is absolutely outrageous! Ppl responsible should be, as someone below already said, hold criminally liable.

[@Linda-qp9kp]

I'm sure he was pulling his punches, especially to the face, otherwise those women would probably have been knocked out, or much worse.

[@wistfulwraith4304]

Khelif knows exactly what he's doing. The smirk on his face says it all.

[@markflint2629]

Yes

[@USAeee]

Oh my goodness YES you’re correct! It’s sickening and sad as well.

[@jillianblake575]

He also uses every ounce of his physical strength when landing punches to the girls faces . It shows his absolute distain for his XX female opponents.

[@cjade5394]

😂😂😂😂

[@dagmarg5016]

He is evil and opportunistic. This is not going to end well. 😑

[@lindasevern6421]

The Olympic committee what a joke, absolute disgraceful decision to let him box in a women's competition

[@fernandaolivares7926]

She is freaking WOMAN!

[@heatherhinde6544]

Morally incomprehensible.

[@christking8844]

Obscene Really displaying to Women (XX) Athletes Women Athletics are given far less in funding, understandably so. However, to allow an XY to box under misrepresentation is criminal Many Women (XX) have been injured leading up to the most recent abuses directed at Women (XX) Size and strength are well established for a very long time. I will continue to boycott the skop olympics and their sponsors!!!

[@ReubenandTheBridge]

Sad that you're referring to Imane as him. Perhaps she shouldn't be eligible to take part, but she also deserves respect. She did not choose to be born with her chromosomes. Please employ some empathy.

[@ericharmon2698]

@@ReubenandTheBridge read what you wrote and think again --- he wouldn't be in the spot light if he took responsibility and accountability of who and what he is, and yet he didn't. he wasn't born yesterday ......

[@zacnat12]

She just proved that he is a he. She also proved that the decision to pretend otherwise is about political views and not about truth.

[@RC-qf3mp]

No, at the beginning she made it clear that the main test of who is male or female is the presence or absence of a penis. Of course. But then wants to say that somebody can be MALE and born without a penis - but that goes against every culture throughout history. What counts as a ‘male’ or ‘female’ is pre-scientific. You don’t need to like inside the body for more organs. The most important organ, visible when a baby is born, is the penis. No penis, not a male. Not a male, then you’re female. What’s wrong with that? Emma didn’t adequately address the core issue. The way she addressed suggests the complete opposite of her conclusion/prejudice against Khelif.

[@federicat920]

​@@RC-qf3mp No penis doesn't mean a XY person hasn't developed the muscle and bone structure of a male. Even if not fully developed, their bodies are still not comparable to any XX women. That makes it unsafe for XX women. People with DSD need a separate category and there will be no controversy.

[@nickmagrick7702]

How? Amane is a woman with a genetic defect, still has a vagina

[@RC-qf3mp]

@@federicat920 there’s a WIDE VARIETY of XY intersex people with female phenotypes. The ones who train all day long, lift weights, eat proteins, etc. will develop in ways consistent with that training. People who grow up in a small town in Texas where the best thing in life is to be a cheerleader, will develop accordingly given what the society and parents encourage. The Olympics is full of people are in the top 0.0001% of genetic extremes, that’s true of all people. Furthermore, you’re presupposing rather than proving what makes the ‘muscle and bone structure of a male’. There’s a wide variety among men and among women. What counts as a male bone structure is that it’s WHATEVER bone structure belongs to ANY male. But these people are intersex that we’re talking about and they have the bone structure and muscle mass of intersex people. The question is whether those people born without penis and testicles are female. Throughout history they were deemed to be female. Phenotype superseded genotype. If you disagree, fine, but you haven’t show the disagreement to be anything other than arbitrary prejudice. It has no basis in biology. B/c biology can’t make the choice for us between genotype and phenotype. Both are biological. The lack of a penis is very biological.

[@Liztastaney7]

@@federicat920 then he certainly has internal testes not ovaries considering the high testosterone.

[@richardjones4536]

This is why I've switched off watching the Olympics...