The Best Browser Synchronization

In this video I compare browser synchronization between Firefox, Google Chrome, and Brave browser.
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[@apenguin7779]

Real men use wget to browse websites

[@uncleenk]

no real men make a 3000 line script to wget a website and all of its links (and so on)

[@Wonk_Bonk]

Me on internet explorer: yes

[@NoahGooder]

I actually sometimes use of Browsh to surf the web when my internet is being stupid. I connect to a shell account over ssh and surf the web there.

[@NebulaHatesWatchdog]

I have a custom copy of frogfind that lets me use lynx with the modern web (I can even watch youtube 😉)

[@Silverdev2482]

@@NebulaHatesWatchdog I know lynx (used it a few times to view docs with no guis) but what is frogfind?

[@moon-vf3uj]

It's not even political people who get banned by Google. The person who made Terraria got banned at one point. Nobody knows why, but it locked him out of everything he had on Google Drive and it took the story blowing up on social media and him cancelling the Stadia port of Terraria to get any sort of resolution.

[@JmKrokY]

Yeah that was a bruh moment

[@JmKrokY]

Ah Google Stadia Another thing Google cancelled randomly cause they felt like it

[@earthling_parth]

@@JmKrokY I really liked it 🤧

[@NicxCoay]

@@JmKrokY I enjoy Stadia and I think they should have given it a longer shot (and certainly more warning before shutting it down). But I wouldn’t say the decision was random. As much as I liked it, Stadia was never really a huge success and the writing was on the wall almost from the beginning, sadly.

[@fimelsin5308]

@@JmKrokY "Google cancelled randomly" no they did so b/c no one was on it lol and they did that to themselves lol that makes it the best thing the fact it would still be around if it did not make ppl get a game they have just to pay it online.... almost like it was a bad idea ppl warned them about.

[@sarahcase9872]

I switched to Firefox a year or so ago- well before I got wise to online privacy- because of the ui design and features available to the user. After switching to Linux and going down the rabbit hole, Firefox has toughed it out as a great browser that's heavily customisable far past the basic themes of others, and easy to harden for improved privacy/security. It's features in synchronisation and and css theme support are still king to me, and I plan on using FF for as long as it remains this way. When it's not supported idk I'll just use wget or something

[@retardedmf]

@yes shut up

[@fochdischitt3561]

Why just use one browser? I use chromium just for google/youtube and firefox for everything else. It helps reduce tracking.

[@joebloggs8826]

firefox is the fucking one and they own tor

[@shadesoftime]

I switched to firefox 2 years ago as a gimmick, change for the sake of change. And I've never used anything other than firefox, though recently I switched to waterfox since over time firefox started implementing their own spyware

[@EricN73158]

Been using firefox for over 15 years. Loved it back then and still love it today. I wont switch to anything else I just hate everything. It works and I know how it works. People make fun of me for it but I don't care.

[@ThinkOfTheSkye]

just switched to firefox and i have to say. i majorily prefer it. the ui feels more simple and usable then googles. also services like password manager and sync work way better.

[@TheGuyWhoIsSitting]

@Ibrahim Anser I don’t know a modern browser running all the bells and whistles that doesn’t have a high memory usage.

[@SteveSunny]

This is the biggest cope I've ever read in my life

[@FadeHook23]

@Ibrahim Anser that’s just how browsers work. Ram is quite literally the fastest memory in the computer. If you need information readily available that is cached, you’re gonna need tons of fast temporary storage.

[@AluminiumFoil]

The toolbar sucks though. There's no pop-up extension list. Compact view is no longer "supported". And the tab search is weird. Still prefer Firefox but mainstream adoption will never happen if the ux isn't improved.

[@quantumastrologer5599]

Don't get me started on the 'hamburger menu bookmarks button only shows recently used bookmarks with no way to change the default behavior. You have to edit the top bar and add separate bookmarks button to it' issue

[@chikopollaxd2300]

Anything is gonna be better than using Google products

[@avg_user-ty2eg]

i hate to say it but it's the best in terms of convience because every password you save across almost every android apps is saved and synched instantly and I'm not even a jeet shill

[@astroid99]

@@avg_user-ty2eg that convince makes it less secure, they just need to get into your google account to get all your log ins.

[@AmatuerHourCoding]

@@astroid99 True, but if you use a non-shit 2FA method like a yubikey or something, it could be pretty secure. Assuming Google itself doesn't get mega pwned

[@epicn]

says the person using a google account to comment on a website owned by google

[@Jack_ekrjgterbtonr]

@@epicn You're doing the same.

[@Duesi2024]

Firefox is super handy, to send tabs to another device. I nearly use this feature daily.

[@sorairosetsuna0989]

jsyk, chrome supports that

[@bigzigtv706]

@@sorairosetsuna0989 yes but chrome is awful

[@kid_icarus1721]

Edge does that too

[@charautreal]

​@@kid_icarus1721 same as the comment above you

[@febryanvaldo]

Chrome and Edge support Send Tab to Other Devices, but i prefer Firefox.

[@BWAC]

I wrote a shell script that every time I turned my PC on it would take the *Bookmarks* file from the Brave local cache, encrypt it and copy it to a cloud drive, that way at most i'd only lose 1/2 days at most. Its cool but because its the raw JSON you can't just import it into another browser you have to go back to the directory and manually copy it in. I could see a scenario using rsync you could sync this across devices, but personally i use my laptop and PC so differently having them synced just wasn't a huge issue

[@jer1776]

I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because of the ability to use addons on the mobile version. Firefox syncing features as well as having more privacy settings are nice features too that have kept me a loyal Firefox user.

[@user-bn8wy6cc5v]

Fantastic. Thank you for the first browser video ive seen that makes 100% sense. Subscribed!! ❤

[@Red-zt1xj]

Wow brave sync actually works now, tested it a couple years ago and it was not functional, nice to see it improve.

[@joaomachado9105]

Even tho i recently switched to firefox i really liked the way brave handled syncing. Not having to creating an account is awesome, I wish other browsers adopted that method

[@milaanpatel4997]

Please don't mind me using your videos as sleeping aid. Your sound is quite calming.

[@Catge]

Glad to see you shout out sir sudo as usual

[@joshuamaserow]

Wow dude, I remember when you were like 2k subs. Good video, I've been interested to know about the issues that you covered with FF but didn't bother with it yet. On Android, I used to use FF, but its really lame that it didn't support much extensions, like FireMonkey etc. And also DarkReader didn't work at all or well either. Whereas Kiwi Browser on Android, does extensions just fine, and it's dark mode is fast and excellent. Another thing is I find FF a bit slower than Chromium, which I don't mind on Desktop, but on mobile I noticed the slowness. Don't take my word for any of these statements, I didn't measure performance with benchmarks and haven't tried FF on Android for a few months.

[@Ionic0]

Firefox sync has been a life saver when ive had problems with windows and had to reinstall it. it brought back all my passwords, bookmarks and add-ons with ease.

[@kabeeki]

You should make a podcast! Your voice is so calming and I would 100% listen to it.

[@capitanDakkar]

he does have one, but rarely post new episodes

[@tejas5811]

I have been sharing your vids with my elder brother who has the no need privacy mentality to switch from chrome to Firefox; was really difficult to edge him over but with great effort from chrome ,it pushes my brother to firefox.

[@chrisodillman3355]

Thank you for showing them the way to the light :-)

[@AK-ky3ou]

I respect that you acknowledge google being safe from a security standpoint. There are so many creators that blatantly label google/chrome unsafe.

[@MultiTripleRainbow]

I use the send tab to device feature daily. Being able to send tabs from my work laptop to my desktop has done wonders for my productivity.

[@spurdosparde8197]

“overall i rate firefox sync the highest” firefox users stay winning

[@StimkySkunko]

Until they find out/realize that Firefox has gone woke since a few years, both expressing support for censorship multiple times and doing some of the censoring themselves; and so won't be long until they become Chrome 2.0 proper, lmao.

[@tseriesbad6746]

@@StimkySkunko that's Mozilla

[@highlander2319]

@@tseriesbad6746 Mozilla? As in Mozilla Firefox?

[@mbk5430]

@@highlander2319 Mozilla is now focused more on activism than development (especially after the wave of layoffs in 2020).

[@LazyJesse]

@@StimkySkunko and is funded by Google, and uses some Google features.

[@g.r.o.g.u.1892]

Nice shout out to JP! I was not expecting that when I came to this video! :)

[@kythrathesuntamer9715]

OMFG. Thank you! you just reminded me to install 2 factor on my Firefox Sync!

[@kythrathesuntamer9715]

@undefined Sumi Best Girl kanojo okarishimasu.

[@midimusicforever]

Good stuff!

[@withmygoodeyeclosed]

Nexus 5X.. that brought back some memories lol, the camera was pretty great.

[@DundeMan]

Changes mine to Firefox recently. Thanks to you.

[@iscesp04]

I love your pfp. I cried like a bitch when Venom had to take out the infected recruits in the containment platform

[@DundeMan]

@@iscesp04 We will make Diamonds from their ashes. Diamond Dogs forever.

[@Ryan-yh9ii]

Chrome allows you to use client-side encryption with your own keys using chromesync. Not sure why you didn't mention that, but users have the capability to keep their sync data private. By default this option isn't used, but every user has the capability to enable it.

[@holeefook3149]

I like Firefox for the browser containers add on. It's nice to keep certain activities or multiple accounts for same site separate.

[@chell6022]

Thank you!

[@MH-tv5fr]

Completely overdosed on chan memes, you love to see it

[@solasoul33]

Firefox is just handy and also less issues unless it’s tweaked by the distro. Opera is also nice for watching KZbin you can pop out the PIP and it’s nice as well. I like chrome but would love a lightweight version

[@Techonsapevole]

I think Bitwarden selfhosted is superior for passwords, but great video

[@h0pelless850]

pretty cool

[@quintencabo]

Cool that you can run your own account service! Only makes sense

[@benbernanke7701]

lmao I got a chrome ad for this video

From what I saw Firefox sync 2.0 is much harder to setup than 1.0. You can do many things without Firefox sync better or the same. Firefox sync also support SSO I think.

[@ryanbergh235]

Hey, I just found your channel and thought this was a good video. After watching, I was curious if you are familiar with the Divi Project? They are big on self-custodial crypto solutions, and I thought that might mesh with your ethos. Anyway, thanks for the quality vid. Cheers!

[@earthling_parth]

I switched to Firefox and Bitwarden from Chrome and can't be happier 🙌 but I know the bias against Chrome will lead it to ranking third even though feature wise it will have the best sync out of all three.

[@vitormelo22]

The Vivaldi Sync is very good.

[@WaldoKrayt]

I changed a day ago and its the best thing i've ever done

[@hanna_GG2]

Google doesn’t always force you to use 2FA. I think it does only when you create N number of accounts from a single IP or something like that

[@lostly3003]

Based

[@PieterPrinsloo]

One further detail is that the encryption and authentication keys are not the same and are derived from your password. The encryption key is never sent to their servers so in theory they can't view your synced data (assuming you trust they never transmit the plaintext password to their servers when logging in)

[@Kill_All_Politicians]

BASED

[@KunalKumar-dz4kb]

9:25 if you use linux, then to add that argument everytime you start you could edit the .desktop file of brave and then everytime you open it graphically it will start brave with that argument automatically. the .desktop file will most probably be in the /etc directory. Edit: Thanks to the replies: It is in ~/.local/share/applications. Find the brave.desktop file in that folder and add the argument in the command.

[@tacokoneko]

actually it's in the /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications not /etc and also you can do the same thing on Windows with .lnk files

[@realryleu]

desktop files are typically in either /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications

[@laurinneff4304]

The others were right about the .desktop file being in /usr/share/applications, but just something to add: that file shouldn't be edited. Files in /usr are meant to be managed only by the package manager and not manually. /usr/local/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications are the equivalent user-managed directories though, with the former being systemwide and the latter being user-specific (and both override /usr). So, copy the .desktop file to either of those directories and then edit the copy.

[@themasterofdisastr1226]

Windows .lnk files allow adding Arguments as well.

[@gamignman267]

I really miss having gmail in the top right in chrome but firefox is doing me a lot better

[@SIMULATAN]

Firefox Sync is e2e encrypted as well

[@Parameter8030]

I sync all my important browser data in an external device; it is private, secure, and impervious to hackers. It's called a notebook XD

[@joeycommet45]

Pen and paper chad. 💪

[@LilacMonarch]

True but it is actually vulnerable to the greatest of all hackers...regular burglars physically breaking in

[@Whatnoww]

Aegis is the best 2FA app. Love how it backs up to my Nextcloud server

[@jaralara6429]

6:35 great now we can see Mental Outlaw's anime taste

[@mndtr0]

Well, Firefox is an open source application that is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm mean I love open-source apps but some of they just not good as their absolutely proprietary analogs. But apps like Blender, Firefox, 7Zip, VSCode, Brave etc. just AMAZING because they just work out of the box and you still can customize them how you want and like. Unlike that apps which horrible out of the box and you need configure them to make them just usable. Customization and configuration is great but not when you must do it to fix broken and unusable app. But there is exists some apps which not work out of the box but after customization they work good as their analogs or even better so that worth it. I'm love FOSS

[@atpray]

Try floccus bookmark sync extension, it can sync via nextcloud/drive and across multiple browser. I use it with kiwi browser on Android to sync my bookmarks to Orion browser on ios, and firefox browser on linux.

[@DiegoGZorrilla]

I like Firefox containers and we can sync those too

[@ernestoditerribile]

You forgot about Opera. Best browser synchronization is with Safari on Mac/iOS. But if you need it in an OS independent environment. Opera really rocks.

[@xmg_redux]

I use LibreWolf and sometimes Ungoogled Chromium if the site only supports chromium based browsers and instead of them both removing their respecting sync features entirely, why not keep that feature in and allow you to use your own sync server?

[@DamjanDimitrioski]

How about we make a client just to list the logins, and then copy/paste passwords, we can use kdeconnect(gconnect on Gnome) to paste the password to a mobile device if needed.

[@youtubeviewer8146]

Could you make a video talking about Firefox privacy extensions? Saw a few people saying some are not necessary anymore with the newest version of Firefox, while other say it's still a good idea to have them. Currently trying to switch to it.

[@GrimMetropolis]

I like the libraries browser

[@heraldo300]

The "Gamer Word"🤣

[@NorthLaker]

I've been considering moving some things to self hosted equivalents, but I'm still skeptical as to the reliability of doing so. What would you say is the best way to self host a service like this? A throwaway pc from last century? A Raspberry Pi? Rent a dedicated server like GCP or OCI? And when I say reliability, I not only mean uptime, but also how low the chances are of losing (access to) the data.

[@eloquenthillbilly]

I'm going to turn my old Dell Precision into a NAS/server thingey for me to play around with for various learning projects that I can access remotely. An old Precision is great for this. They're reliable, durable, have two internal storage drives, ethernet port, and two sodimm slots. All laptops have a built in keyboard, screen, mouse, battery backup and are probably more power efficient than using a desktop. Try using stuff you probably already have, or can get for cheap. If you have a laptop you don't use any more, mission accomplished. If you don't, look for a refurb business class that fits your need. Check BlackMarket, ebay, e-waste facilities, etc. Don't neglect to check colleges. For some insane reason, I've seen Chinese students chuck their laptops in the dumpster before leaving the country. Set up a way to backup the data automatically in case something happens to the laptop. This can be as simple as a USB to SATA cable and salvaged drives, or something nicer. Laptops are also space efficient and relatively quiet. Old laptop that fits your needs: $0 to 200+ USB to SATA and salvaged HDDs: $10+ Sabrent HDD dock and new Western Digital HDDs: $80 or more, depending on your needs Misc cost for minor repairs, tools, cables, etc: Unknown, adding $10 to make final cost an even $300. Total Price: Somewhere between basically free and around $300. This is a tech project, set a strict budget or you'll go over it. If you want to have off site back ups, double the price and bribe a friend to let you stick a clone of your system in their closet.

[@_smirk_]

I hate technology

[@glibberglobber9358]

Yeah. The more you know the more you hate it.

[@tickledonions9483]

that's your fault

[@lol-ih1tl]

Firefox on mobile is one of the few Browsers on mobile that supports extensions.

[@Calzone407]

Firefox gang! I've used firefox for as long as I have a computer. (so about 4 years now)

[@presi3005]

Chads who just don't sync their browser stuff

[@solasoul33]

Like some of us have the first account we opened has all our history then the one we used for school then the one we use for work

[@aa898246]

itd be cool if you made a video about how to move away from the google ecosystem (gmail, etc) to something more secure.

[@dirtydog4515]

Firefox is my # 1 choice 👍

[@raidtheweb1188]

another based video

[@SamuelSandeen]

Worth noting, Google has a zero knowledge sync mode

[@idcrafter-cgi]

Self Hosted solution would feel way better as a external solution

[@mahmoudch7628]

good video. but why didn't you include Ms Edge?

[@HollyTroll]

why did I always think that Sir Sudo is Mental Outlaw's second channel lol..

[@skeliskull]

It’s edge but yall ain’t ready for that

[@rencothrawford]

Self hosting chads, RISE UP!

[@shaunpatrick8345]

To view a saved password in Brave you have to enter your OS user account password. But to view the sync-chain master password, just click a button! I have multiple Brave profiles synced on my desktop; unfortunately only 1 can be synced to the mobile app. I've not tried self-hosting but I doubt that's easy to manage on the mobile app either - having the sync URL as a setting rather than a parameter would make more sense.

[@LilacMonarch]

10000 iq password security

[@lizardjr.7826]

It's true.

[@danielbelmir0]

I use firefox as my main browser, I use brave whenever I want to use my other google account when I want to manage my 7 subscribers channel. I use microsoft edge(btw i'm linux) in some websites, like udemy, it seems that their drm crap doesnt work on firefox or maybe one of my addons is is causing some issue. I like using different browsers while keeping firefox as my main one. I have a gpg encrypted file with my ssh key and my firefox passwords, i sent this file to my mother. I probably have to do that with my OTP stuff.

[@anonman8661]

Google 2fa isn't mandatory for most cases. Sometimes they will force the use of a phone number or recovery email, but they mostly just leave the phone number as optional because they know the normies won't notice that it says (optional).

[@TorutheRedFox]

2fa on Google accounts isn't a requirement, but your account gets pretty severely handicapped in many ways if it's not on

[@cyrilio]

Could you go in to how good pCloud is and their encrypted files cloud storage is?

[@dbonechis]

Firefox gang 💯

[@ThePowerRanger]

Firefox should have an option like Brave for sync though, as not everyone can selfhost or likes to share stuff with Mozilla.

[@HyperMario64]

My understanding is that you would only share your email address, all the rest is encrypted using the password. This is fair enough to get login notifications and a sort of backup in my opinion. If you lose your crypto private key, you are fucked. On the other hand, 2FA codes are easy to backup to another device (I keep an old phone offline for that). So in this case I prefer FF approach.

[@kerbaman5125]

Btw KeePassXC (and DX) has very good 2FA functionality

[@laurinneff4304]

Bitwarden too. And Bitwarden even supports Steam's 2FA (it's a bit annoying to set up though as you have to extract the key from the mobile app using root or by rebuilding the app as debuggable to make it possible to read its data dir using adb)

[@kerbaman5125]

@@laurinneff4304 Same with KeePass to get the Steam 2FA

[@theov3rmind]

Yes, CIA also recommends that you use Firefox =P Lot's of good information in this video, and it's much appreciated. As always, consider what option is best for your specific situation.

[@adrekiy0]

a glowing clock can be right twice a day

[@HyperMario64]

Yeah that's always the issue of customer custody with all of these broad ecosystems. Apple obviously has the same issue (or feature depending on who you ask). Even if I use quite a lot of Google products, I don't go to the point of having software of them on my PC. Firefox always has been a great product, switched to it 5 years ago and not ever going back. Anyway I recently got to setup my own email server for some business. I should consider using that as my main email address. And of course self-hosting the sync server because this is way too critical in my life.

[@Ciaudius]

basado

[@monolofiminimal]

Functionality-wise Firefox and Vivaldi are my favourite but I cannot ditch neither for the other because ffox lacks the way Vivaldi does it's tab grouping, and Vivaldi lacks a proper built in way of doing containers like ffox does. I'm still happy using both, but admittedly I also have brave, operagx (honestly I only used it for the built in curated games page), qutebrowser, Midori and duck knows what else. I'm such a browser ho'. Oh yeah ungoogled chromium was somewhere, but I used it for a web scraping script and waterfox did live somewhere. I need to stop. There was also that one browser I tried that was 'for coders' but yeah it's not even comparable to the others here. I'm always on the lookout for lightweight security conscious highly functional and customizable browsers though.

[@edkhil]

Try the "Tree Style Tab" extension for Firefox

[@midorifox]

Vivaldi is amazing. I wish they were built using gecko or whatever firefox uses, although I can't care less in that regard, I love the calendar and mail browser built-in vivaldi.

[@ianwise2457]

@@midorifox i like vivaldi too. they’re constantly adding useful features, and the built in mouse gesture controls are something i’ve come to miss when i try other browsers

[@re-search0308]

Vivaldi is great for customization and productivity, but sucks on sync

[@Lu_vvv]

​@@re-search0308I've never had issues with Vivaldi's sync

[@notthere83]

There's also been the guy wrongfully accused of pedophilia (sending photos of his child to a doctor for a diagnosis) who got his account banned.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

Gamer word? Gamer...word? I-oh....

[@williamduncan7401]

Bitwarden is open source and works in any browser and device

[@sami_is_freeYt]

Could you do a video on how secure opera gx browser is please

[@topg4489]

Opera and Brave should move to use Webkit. Chromium is such a sh*tshow with Google trying to enforce ads.

[@wolverineiscool7161]

Firefox for life!

[@Bullminator]

Me who still uses hotmail with youtube :P I NEVER CHANGED :D

[@goodcitizen4587]

xBrowserSync is great.

[@solasoul33]

It would be nice if Google could allow one phone number for multiple emails

[@dinkelberg6847]

Maybe do a video about LibreWolf?

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

He has one kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmPSpZx8rpl0eqs

[@hunterrules0_o]

Mental outlaw what are your thoughts on brave.

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

You should check out his videos on it :-)

[@banannakryvay]

- Security is very important 2 seconds later: - Let me show my credit cards

[@Vanlifecrisis]

Once the adblock gets killed Ill have to live with firefox i guess, but you'd think after decades firefox would get the speed/hang issue under wraps, especially since they can look at chromium and see how google avoids the issue.

[@Iwantapplez109]

while some of the factor is due to the fact that you're on a differnt engine (which is gecko), i think it isn't so much to do with firefox as it is companies intentionally using deprecated frameworks and other dirty shit to purposefully slow the website down on firefox. since most people only test with chromium, their sites are going to be the most optimised for it.

[@Fractal_32]

Firefox has speed/hang issues? I’ve used it for a year now with no issues.

[@Slugbunny]

This sounds like pre-Quantum Firefox. Incorrect at best.

[@schrimblo]

hammed burger :(