The BEST Car in Each Class in Forza Motorsport!

[@ShadowRacing]

Apologies for the pixelating in the gameplay footage. I know, it's really annoying to watch, but I still haven't got to the bottom of the issue. When I am playing the game, there's no pixelating, nor is there pixelating on the raw footage itself, and yet when I load the footage into my editing software there is pixelating, yet on other footage there is not. If anyone has any suggestions for things to try to fix it, please let me know.

[@ridgeharrowsmith6521]

what software are you using, what settings ect, We need a bit more specifics to help :D

[@ShadowRacing]

@@ridgeharrowsmith6521 I use Microsoft Clipchamp (ik, it's not the most advanced software but it's free😂) and then the footage itself is recorded through the Xbox captures feature.

[@WhiteCranK]

A silly question but does xbox record in 1080p? And do you export the video also in 1080p? If you have two recorded videos, one who's pixelated and one which is not, compare the file size of them both, is there a difference?@@ShadowRacing

[@ShadowRacing]

@@WhiteCranK Yes, both are indeed 1080p. And on my PC after exporting, I can view the footage all fine, it's only when editing.

[@dthendrick1]

I wish there were sub categories. For example the Formula Mazda ruins A-Class, it should be in a class of its own. We should have A-Class Street Cars, A-Class track toys/race cars, and A-Class everything goes, or some way to balance out cars like Formula Mazda.

[@ShadowRacing]

Yeah that'd be good. Hopefully that becomes a thing.

[@lee_fox7553]

Just want to say a big thank you. I just used your tune on the mazda in the D class series online at Virginia raceway and I got 1st place by an absolute mile.

[@ShadowRacing]

Can't all be my Tune, you must be a pretty good driver too.

[@BenFilley]

Man, you completely overlooked the Ferrari scuderia f1 car as being OP in P class. Toss some ballast on it and it ends up 994PI. I won 7 out of 8 races yesterday, and took 2nd in the one I didn’t win. The winner was driving the same car.

[@ShadowRacing]

Hmm. I didn't think of trying that. I'll give it a go.

[@danielsstipnieks2836]

Man, formulas are diferent league . They should have their own class. Other cars are usless and If you really want to compete then only option is formula. Really hate it

[@lagna1506]

The formula mazda 15 is a cancer to A class Rivals. The game would be better without it.

[@239AMG]

Agreed.

[@warrenfrost7001]

Yeah it’s ruined it already , I like to go through multiple cars trying to eeek better times searching out the best cars but it’s pointless now in a game a few weeks old

[@bassface8580]

Yeah I'm sick of seeing that car in a class. My nsx is usually amongst them in the top 3 but yeah I wish it was a little more diverse.

[@Spaceman5pff]

Flip side is the formula mazda feature race was the best hopper this game has seen so far

[@kampffisch97]

I agree! They should do a specific type of cars allowed in A or other classes. For example only road touring cars or seedans. This Mazda is made for his own racing class and that should be ruled !!! Like the "Group A" was, back in in the 90s. But we all know that these type of Kiddy-Drivers are the most biggest noobs on a challenging race 😂

[@MaximumCarter]

I feel like I've been waiting ages for shared tunes to show up in KZbin content. Finding tunes in Motorsport is a pain in the ass because whenever I search tune setups in-game... the game only loads about 6 tunes. Thanks for sharing your creator tag!

[@MaximumCarter]

@michaelbyers8643 yeah I use that feature but the problem is... only 6 tunes actually load. The rest are "grayed out" and throw up an error if I try to download them. Thanks for the help though.

[@Hemination19586]

There is a trick to that go into it scroll all the way down as fast as u can and it'll load the rest of the tunes

[@MaximumCarter]

@lexusfan4829 not all heroes wear capes... thank you!

[@Hemination19586]

@@MaximumCarter your welcome not a lot of people know it. It also works on Forza 7

[@jayjonesss]

Been waiting a few days for a video like this. Bless you sir!

[@ShadowRacing]

Thanks for watching!!

[@bassface8580]

I've always had a problem with the meta cars and downloading some other guys tune which may be the meta. For me Forza car and tune up is a personal and unique thing. I like to do well in cars you wouldn't expect or cars that I just love in general and do my own tunes. I'll sometimes take a few hours to make a nice unique livery for myself too. My ford Sierra and Toyota Supra rz seem to be my best so far for c class often in the top 3 in online races. For b class I actually went for a mitsubishi FTO. Never been a fan of front wheel drive so I converted that to rear wheel drive and messed around with it until it was hitting some good lap times on trials. A class my oldschool honda nsx always does well. Again usually I'm in the top 3 with that online against that Mazda formula car( which I'm sick of seeing lol). S class I haven't played too much yet as I find the c to a class alot of fun but I'll find something good eventually for that. I think it's fun to experiment and spend time on a car to get it good and then see how it does

[@ShadowRacing]

I agree, with pretty much all of this and generally do the same myself.

[@Subsistancer]

I made it to top 30 best lap times with the Mazda MX-5 in just a few laps around Maple Valley although I’m a very average driver. It’s clearly best in E/D class with a massive margin.

[@ShadowRacing]

I think you're a bit more than just average then 😂

[@chrissebastiankraken8445]

Hey! Awsome vid but cant find ur viper tune, only ur tune for class R for him, hope I'm using the right car, is Dodge #93 Viper right? (On driver list).

[@Marcel3IQ]

dodge viper '13 mate it says it in the vid but ig u just skipped to the class u needed

[@ShadowRacing]

It's not the #93 Viper, it's the Viper from 2013, the yellow one.

[@romie-777]

i dont blame you if youre just trying to find or predict meta but this video might not age well at all mostly due to how the game has been out for less than a month

[@ShadowRacing]

Yeah you're probably right. It was the same with the ones I made early in FH5's cycle. I will probably do an updated 2024 version at some point next year.

[@ferringsylveon219]

The 2001 Integra is great at competitive, but people overlook it because it has no customization.

[@Yabas00]

Yeah it's an old model scan and the Devs never showed it any customisation love

[@ferringsylveon219]

@@Yabas00 but I will fix the car. :3

[@JuiceboxDesmond]

People are changing the rims on the Ferrari #1 Scuderia to put it down to PI 998. That car is half of open P class right now.

[@ShadowRacing]

Yeah I should've tried that 🤦

[@Bo-diddley]

Nice tune on the Acura integra type r thanks . It’s a blast

[@ShadowRacing]

Thanks mate! Glad you found my Tune useful.

[@Stompehhh]

Do you post your tunes unlocked? It makes me sad when I find something nice and grippy but I want to tweak a bit to my style

[@ShadowRacing]

I'm not sure. I wasn't aware there was such thing as locked and unlocked.@@Stompehhh

[@ESVMars]

Mclaren with balast fits into P class and is easily the best car there

[@ShadowRacing]

Ah. I should have thought of trying that. 🤦

[@wodefjandi512]

I’m always a contrarian and have a serious dislike for meta cars, so in E class I prefer the Mazda Cosmo. It’s light, nimble, and with a proper build/tune it’s as fast as the ‘90 Miata. Well…. faster acceleration and top speed, but the Miata can take corners a touch faster. Overall though, it’s as good.

[@ShadowRacing]

To be fair, quite a few people hate meta Cars. I myself am not a massive fan either. The Mazda Cosmo certainly is a decent MX-5 alternative.

[@wodefjandi512]

Try the Honda S800. It’s also very good. Especially on shorter tracks like the short version of Hockenheim.

[@ShadowRacing]

Thanks. Will give it a go. @@wodefjandi512

[@DigitalTarmac425]

I’ve been using the McLaren in P class from day one along with the faster Ferrari Scuderia at tracks I’m good on. In all P class races it’s nearly always the Ferrari that wins.

[@ShadowRacing]

I still need to give the Ferrari a proper go.

[@dannyleeracing]

You can flat out end the video at 0:22 with the TRUTH that is 'The MX5 is best'

[@ShadowRacing]

😂haha, I'm not sure the Supra fan boys would have approved. Btw, I'm still a massive fan of your channel and I really appreciate you for taking the time to watch one of my videos!

[@gavinanderson1440]

for b class would the crx not be better with it having less weight, the same engine and a shorter wheel base for turn radius?

[@ShadowRacing]

Potentially.

[@gavinanderson1440]

@@ShadowRacing did a little testing and the crx feels more unstable than the civic but if you can get the tuning right on both it’s not much different

[@RayRiv73]

I hate racing games that have just one OP car in each class. It gets old everyone using the same car.

[@ShadowRacing]

Yeah that is fair.

[@beauar1]

Yeah it's trash. Their should be much more parity between all cars. It should come down to driver skill while having a larger field of random cars in a class. Their are maybe 2 cars in each class that just dominate everything else. That's an issue the devs need to just fix

[@RayRiv73]

@@beauar1 🎯💯

[@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z]

How do these tunes stack up on rivals? Top 5%?

[@ShadowRacing]

Definitely Top 5%, yes.

[@joshuagorman7856]

You missed the 911 gt1 also being OP in S class, guessing they put a ballast on it because everyone in top 10 is rocking it. Its annoying af

[@ShadowRacing]

I probs should've put that instead of the Formula Mazda.

[@crustybadman2705]

Cool video keep up the grind 😊

[@ShadowRacing]

Thanks mate!

[@lukenunn5706]

I don’t have the car points to get your tunes like the miata is like 3k CP

[@ShadowRacing]

Simple way around it: Go into free play > Start a Test Drive at any track, with no AI > Go to settings > Turn on the Steering, Braking and Throttle assists to the max, and turn on Auto shifting > start the test drive > the car should drive by itself > press a button every 10 minutes to keep it going.

[@-HockeySteve94-]

Could you please also include the case level needed for the tune. Thanks

[@ShadowRacing]

What do you mean by case level?

[@-HockeySteve94-]

@@ShadowRacing sorry meant car level. But I guess it’s actually car points. I just wanted to know if I need the car at level 50 to use the tune. Or if a lower level was fine.

[@ShadowRacing]

Yeah it's more the points. But yeah you'd probably need to be level 40ish to have enough points.@@-HockeySteve94-

[@amslucifer9678]

You do know that you can use manual with clutch and shift like a manual(without the clutch) It only works if your car has an upgraded transmission and since the shift is instant it's a lot quicker

[@ShadowRacing]

I didn't know that. Thx for letting me know I'll have to try it

[@marcinrogowski6638]

How easy would be on max difficulty game WITH METAS??

[@ShadowRacing]

It would depend on the track tbh

[@marcinrogowski6638]

@@ShadowRacingOK.

[@amslucifer9678]

​@@marcinrogowski6638I was putting from 10 to 20s on difficulty 6 so prolly would still be op

[@marcinrogowski6638]

@@amslucifer9678OK.

[@FluffyKat27]

Finally, my prays have been answered by Forza Jesus

[@homerdeux4284]

Thanks very hepfull

[@ShadowRacing]

Thanks for watching!

[@marcinrogowski6638]

Which Career event was hardest for you??

[@ShadowRacing]

Not sure really. None were that hard.

[@marcinrogowski6638]

@@ShadowRacingOK.

[@jilesbraeden]

can you do a tier list for just the gt cars and touring cars plz

[@ShadowRacing]

Maybe at some point but it's not top of the priority list for video ideas.

[@dsinglaterry]

Can you please make an updated list?

[@ShadowRacing]

I will do at some point.

[@marcinrogowski6638]

Would be last video of FM 2023??

[@ShadowRacing]

Evidently not 😉

[@marcinrogowski6638]

@@ShadowRacingOK.

[@SDTuts]

Nice, now online races will be filled with those cars, eventually becoming Horizon 2.0

[@ShadowRacing]

....yep. MetaAboozerz

[@Non.mi.interessa]

I'm not finding the dodge viper 13 I see only 14 or 10 in the shop

[@ShadowRacing]

The 2013 Viper is not under "Dodge" in the store, it's under "SRT" for some reason.

[@marcinrogowski6638]

Nice Video!!⭐⭐

[@ShadowRacing]

Thanks man!

[@marcinrogowski6638]

Do the FH5 after last tier.

[@ShadowRacing]

I've had a bit more FM to do

[@marcinrogowski6638]

@@ShadowRacingOK.

[@miyagione2916]

Why can't i find the Viper 2013. Is it a pack car

[@ShadowRacing]

That would be because it's not under "Dodge" it's under the manufacturer "SRT" for some reason.

[@miyagione2916]

@@ShadowRacing nice one

[@2ScoopsOfZeke]

What's the point of classes if it dosent balance everything. You can't just spend all your time and effort tuning your favorite car and perfecting every corner only to get spanked by someone driving the meta car. Everyone in the lobby driving the same car It ruins the game. This has been a problem in the forza series for a very long time.

[@ShadowRacing]

Yeah I know, the Class system should be completely reworked imo. But from what I've seen, Online Races are rigged to make Racing closer, so that somewhat combats it, albeit in an unsatisfactory way.

[@pierrickilann4450]

class S: SHELBY Monaco KC with race Wheeler and lest to Say in S....

[@jeppenordlundbrouer1288]

Can u make video abaute all top of p claas cars

[@ShadowRacing]

Maybe at some point. Thx for the suggestion.

[@jeppenordlundbrouer1288]

Np:)

[@ncredibledark7926]

If you want to learn a bit of german, the 911 GT1 ist pronounced "Straaaßenvearsioon" (looks weird but helps), you made it sound like "Strass" which is jewelry for wannabe rich people. So basically the wannabe pimp 911 GT1 xD Love your video, helps a lot!!!

[@ShadowRacing]

Thanks for this. I think I'm still yet to correctly pronounce a Car name 😂😂

[@marcinrogowski6638]

After next tier video please do FH5.

[@ShadowRacing]

I will return to FH5 at some point, but I still have a fair few videos I want to make in Forza Motorsport.

[@marcinrogowski6638]

@@ShadowRacingOK.

[@codykramer6382]

I’m not a fan of the over all classes once you hit r class. I would like to see r and p broken down into their respective categories( gt, r open, prototype, early prototype, open p, group c etc) this weekly class change crap really sucks. You had Bugatti in c and not the f1 cars that are X class down in p class and they have a 50 mph speed difference, which leads to position entitlement and them forcing you off for no other reason than they are fast in a straight line. It’s what ruined forza 5,6, and 7.

[@ShadowRacing]

Yeah, tbh I think the whole class system needed a full re-work which it didn't get.

[@darrenharris7551]

Are these leaderboard cars

[@ShadowRacing]

Yes

[@Shearlogistics1]

Formula mazda is a stand alone car. It should only race other formula Mazda's or formula 4 cars.

[@ShadowRacing]

I agree. Or they should at least nerf it's PI rating.

[@Sentinel-Music]

Where do I find these builds wthh

[@ShadowRacing]

Go to "Upgrade and Tune" then you go to "Find Tunes" then you search for it, using the Tune name.

[@Sentinel-Music]

@@ShadowRacing thanks i feel so slow haha

[@roma.pixelarts]

Playstation 1 graphics? 😀

[@ShadowRacing]

No, it's actually microwave graphics, filmed on a potato.

[@Harmonic14]

A lot of these aren't accurate. Not only are there faster cars in many of these classes, but the true best builds haven't been found yet because of the upgrade grind

[@ShadowRacing]

0:12 Did you not read this??

[@Harmonic14]

@@ShadowRacing I did, but it's not a matter of future cars making the video incorrect... The video was incorrect the day you posted it. Half the classes were just straight up wrong even at the time of posting

[@ShadowRacing]

@Harmonic14 Like you remember exactly what the best known Cars were at every point? 😂

[@Harmonic14]

@@ShadowRacing it's not hard to remember 5-6 cars from launch week... Lol stop being so defensive and just admit you're wrong, it's not that big of a deal

[@codykramer6382]

P class is the Toyota eagle. Not opinion, fact.

[@ShadowRacing]

I know. But as I said at the start of the video, some of the Cars may prove to not be the best as time goes on.

[@SuperHornetX]

Bruh what.

[@FluxFreeman]

All I see is MX-5 Miata winning everything

[@Sentinel-Music]

Where is the build

[@ShadowRacing]

Yeah it's super OP

[@okkiddo6170]

D class mazda isn't good at all.

[@ShadowRacing]

I've updated my Tune. It's called D-Class build V2 It's much better

[@okkiddo6170]

Getting this tune and cp for the mazda was a total waste of time. 👎

[@ShadowRacing]

Ok. Have a great day.

[@nlm7033]

Miatas are insufferable

[@ShadowRacing]

The GOATS

[@SuperHornetX]

P and X are both wrong lmao.

[@ShadowRacing]

Did you read what I said at 0:11

[@SuperHornetX]

@@ShadowRacing Yes, and it's still wrong. Both P and X have been dominated by the same car since the game came out, but people just assume since they see that car at the top of the leaderboards, it's the best. The reason why is because rivals uses club rules, meaning your gas tank is at 100%, the only thing you can change is the tires. This difference destroys the F1 cars as they seem to hold 30-40L of fuel for some reason.

[@Ascus33]

very biased weeb boy

[@ShadowRacing]

Biased towards the truth 😉

[@guilhermesouza4197]

Noob car list

[@ShadowRacing]

don't use them then

[@itsanapesworld]

FM is just ugly graphics wise, no comparison to FH5 :P they should be ashamed for releasing such a piece of trash, the cuircuits (surroundings) look awefull, like theyre straight out of an Xbox 360 title or sth like that

[@againstall4agsandtrans511]

Stop crying

[@spacecoupe4293]

It must be your settings 😂😂

[@bassface8580]

To me I think they look great. The gameplay online is fantastic. Graphics don't matter as much as gameplay. Personally I think horizon is too arcadey but sure it does look good

[@everyday_andrey]

It's Yout settings, not the game

[@yaminfaruque9474]

if your pc can't run it, then just say that. Game looks great in my hardware and I play with rt off.

[@FH4Player6397]

I haven't touched online yet, but maybe in the future. I'm enjoying single player too much lol.

[@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z]

Do it! I did and haven't gone back - the Touring Cars and GT class series are so good, especially with pit stop strategy