The Best Couples in History - Valentine's Day Special

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Overly Sarcastic Productions

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Happy Valentine's Day! Celebrate the history of Love with a rundown of these outstanding couples - for better and for worse.
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@katacutie
@katacutie 4 жыл бұрын
Achilles disguised himself as a princess? He was THAT cute?
@assassintwinat8
@assassintwinat8 4 жыл бұрын
That or his hair was THAT gorgeous
@reyonXIII
@reyonXIII 4 жыл бұрын
And somehow was able to hide what must have been an awesome physique so Zeus-damn well. Oh, and his name in drag: Pyrrha
@andrealouise4655
@andrealouise4655 4 жыл бұрын
He was THAT *golden*.
@erraticonteuse
@erraticonteuse 4 жыл бұрын
Read Plato's Symposium, there's a whole part where they debate whether Achilles was the top or the bottom (because in ancient Greece, there were rules for that sort of thing, and basically Achilles being young and pretty meant he was totes the bottom).
@katacutie
@katacutie 4 жыл бұрын
@@erraticonteuse But Patrocles was young and pretty, too D: How would that work by their laws?
@dhmc45
@dhmc45 4 жыл бұрын
*Valentine's Day:* _(comes in)_ *Aphrodite:* It's my time to shine. _(proceeds to ruin everyone's romantic lives)_
@for.tax.reasons
@for.tax.reasons 4 жыл бұрын
Krishna: I'm about to end this woman's entire career
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 4 жыл бұрын
Aphrodite: "AND YOU GET A LOVER, AND YOU GET A LOVER, AN YOU-" Hippolytus: "Sorry, I'm just not into people like that." Aphrodite: "WELL SCREW YOU" *throws his step mother at him*
@fireline4765
@fireline4765 4 жыл бұрын
I have no romantic life.
@extorchic
@extorchic 4 жыл бұрын
🎵❤Bang bang, into the room❤🎵 in the background as she enters LOL
@fantasyshadows3207
@fantasyshadows3207 4 жыл бұрын
Hathor: *sighs and cleans up several messes that Aphrodite left*
@Coratlan
@Coratlan 3 жыл бұрын
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus: "they made us COUSINS???" Achilles and Patroclus: "First time?"
@johnbradley2343
@johnbradley2343 3 жыл бұрын
Ferdinand and Isabella: What's the problem?
@zainmudassir2964
@zainmudassir2964 3 жыл бұрын
Cousin relationships are the best. Even Albert Einstein and his wife were first cousins
@sakshikhatavkar3562
@sakshikhatavkar3562 3 жыл бұрын
@@zainmudassir2964 please tell me you don’t mean that-
@laureneras9523
@laureneras9523 3 жыл бұрын
I can take Hollywood taking the Gods out of the Iliad but I draw the line at making Achilles straight!!!
@mettatonsagent7541
@mettatonsagent7541 3 жыл бұрын
Actually forgot that cuz I didn’t watch sailor moon since the new dub came out
@saoirsefitzpatrick1123
@saoirsefitzpatrick1123 4 жыл бұрын
"The size of the Habsburgs empire is inversely proportional to the size of their gene pool" is the MOST BRUTAL takedown I have ever heard
@alisaurus4224
@alisaurus4224 4 жыл бұрын
Riley Fitzpatrick their family tree is a wreath
@magicnote2103
@magicnote2103 4 жыл бұрын
@@alisaurus4224 More like a tumbleweed. Their family tree is a family circle
@nicoletheweirdo91421
@nicoletheweirdo91421 4 жыл бұрын
Magic Note It’s a pretzel of weeds.
@VanNessy97
@VanNessy97 4 жыл бұрын
"I'd tell the Habsburgs to go screw themselves, but it seems they beat me to the punch"
@andrewmichael9201
@andrewmichael9201 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, have you HEARD about the Habsburgs?
@beretperson
@beretperson 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah true love is great, but have you ever married into royalty and then overthrown your own husband to become the ruler? This post by the Catherine the Great gang.
@themockingdragon135
@themockingdragon135 4 жыл бұрын
A certain Chinese pirate queen who I can't remember the name of inadvertently did more or less the same thing once. When you think about it, it's shocking how similar those stories are.
@badredraws
@badredraws 4 жыл бұрын
@@themockingdragon135 Not sure if it's the person you mean, but Cheng I Sao was a Chinese pirate queen. She didn't overthrow her husband, but took over after he died, and helped maintain the army until she was defeated. She still managed to spare everyone in her army afterwards, bargaining with the government to allow them to have good lives
@abhinath1260
@abhinath1260 4 жыл бұрын
@Black Orchid Imagine needing a man to help assert your power. This post was made by the Elizabeth I of England gang
@justafaniv1097
@justafaniv1097 4 жыл бұрын
@Black Orchid Imagine waiting for your relative to die. This post was made by the Empress Irene gang.
@Cdre_Satori
@Cdre_Satori 4 жыл бұрын
Insert surprised emperor running into conspirators while escaping Moscow
@saltefan5925
@saltefan5925 4 жыл бұрын
"The size of which is inversely proportional to their gene pool." That absolutely cracked me up!
@AnyaWVossand
@AnyaWVossand 4 жыл бұрын
The size of their empire was matched only by the size of their jaw.
@Cometstarlight
@Cometstarlight 4 жыл бұрын
Salt Efan It’s a great line because you learn most of what you need to know in one sentence
@hippos_rock3855
@hippos_rock3855 4 жыл бұрын
Anya W. Vossand Ouch.
@ethanrummel7638
@ethanrummel7638 4 жыл бұрын
Blue's best line in a while
@Zeergruush
@Zeergruush 4 жыл бұрын
I straight up almost fucking died of laughter mid-game cuz of this line!
@lunaequinox7333
@lunaequinox7333 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm talking about his boyfriend Patroclus because of course I am" Same dude
@closetotaku5244
@closetotaku5244 3 жыл бұрын
I bet my Life that if the after life does exist they are still being cute and gay and hate that “they are cousins because we say so” bullshit as much as I do
@leeschelly8384
@leeschelly8384 3 жыл бұрын
Let us hope that in whatever after life they are in they are happy together and being the cutest couple ever.
@ornachia2489
@ornachia2489 3 жыл бұрын
@@leeschelly8384 Yes, I do hope so.
@stillnotfound2040
@stillnotfound2040 3 жыл бұрын
@@leeschelly8384 yeah
@saintsinner4074
@saintsinner4074 4 жыл бұрын
"It is a sweet homosexual cou-" Vatican: "ERASE IT!"
@HistoryisBoss
@HistoryisBoss 4 жыл бұрын
They also forced younger boys to have a mentor ship with older men in both Roman and Greek society, sources Greek mythos such as Heracles where it’s hinted and said that he and his nephews were possibly lovers, then read the mediations of Marcus Aurelius where he literally says that he was grateful that, you know what I actually forgot the exact words, but to sum up he remarks later in life that him keeping his purity when he was young from both women of the street and mentors. So the real reason the Vatican gets rid of it is cuz of the moving away of having young people get married at such a young age. But that is the modern view the actual reason was more likely because the stories and philosophy of Ancient Greece were being looked at very closely near the beginning of Christianity to better understand the Bible.
@HistoryisBoss
@HistoryisBoss 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing sweet about some of the Gay couples in Ancient Greek stories since they forced younger boys to have a mentor ship with older men in both Roman and Greek society, sources, besides a quick google search “LGBT in Ancient Greece”, Greek mythos such as Heracles where it’s hinted and said that he and his nephews were possibly lovers, then read the mediations of Marcus Aurelius where he literally says that he was grateful that, you know what I actually forgot the exact words, but to sum up he remarks later in life that him keeping his purity, virginity, when he was young from both women of the street and mentors, allowed him to be morally clean and free from vice, beside that side note the book is really good I’d suggest a read if you appreciate philosophy. So the real reason the Vatican gets rid of it is cuz of the moving away of having young people get married at such a young age, or involved with older people. But that is the modern view the actual reason was more likely because the stories and philosophy of Ancient Greece were being looked at very closely near the beginning of Christianity to better understand the Bible, which made them twist the small details to fit better with Christianity. TLDR they had a reason to censor the gayness of the stories.
@auggiepawgie4044
@auggiepawgie4044 3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryisBoss that's the fault of the people who forced those younger boys, not an entire sexuality, nor an entire history, and no reason for it to be erased. If you want to talk about forcing, look no further than the vast majority of straight relationship Greek myths, were a woman is often forced into it.. Soo if there's a reason why we should ' erase the gayness ' I guess there's a reason why we should erase the straight ones too
@joshme3659
@joshme3659 3 жыл бұрын
Samual Jager im sorry are you really arguing the medevil church wasnt homophobic they just hated pedophilia??? Lol thats dumb. They hated homosexuals, thats why they kept inprisoning and burning them. The catholic church was and is homophobic isnt really an opinion. Its a fact.
@auggiepawgie4044
@auggiepawgie4044 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshme3659 period pooh 💅
@for.tax.reasons
@for.tax.reasons 4 жыл бұрын
_"knife wound aficionado Julius Caesar"_
@chottabeamm
@chottabeamm 4 жыл бұрын
28 stab wounds
@malcomalexander9437
@malcomalexander9437 4 жыл бұрын
@@chottabeamm 40 conspirators, only 28 stab wounds(some of which might have been repeat stabs), only one of those wounds would have been fatal on its own. Like all group projects, only half the people do any work, and only does guy does all the work.
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 4 жыл бұрын
*gets stabbed in the groin* "Painful, in the sensitive region. 9/10, Brutus" *dies*
@themorganrileyshow5520
@themorganrileyshow5520 4 жыл бұрын
He ran into my knife. He ran into my knife 28 times
@kannavz3494
@kannavz3494 4 жыл бұрын
The Morgan Riley Show well, he had it coming all along.
@givowl2160
@givowl2160 4 жыл бұрын
Putting Achilles and his bf at the starts was a strong and well appreciated beginning
@pedroivantaveraferreira3037
@pedroivantaveraferreira3037 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting to see Peridot-Lapis fusion, aren't we?
@elementsfanfics3859
@elementsfanfics3859 4 жыл бұрын
Gibowl.v Well, it does seem to be this channel’s OTP
@ArchOwl
@ArchOwl 4 жыл бұрын
dragon heaven I’m going to assume this is commented out of simple ignorance and not malice. A. Petroculus and Achilles probably didn’t exist, but this is only because they were mythical characters that reflected the culture of their time. Their stories weren’t made up later, if that’s what you’re asking about. B. Achilles wasn’t _supposed_ to marry anyone, but even if he was, it wouldn’t have been Medea.
@hysterical5408
@hysterical5408 4 жыл бұрын
@dragon heaven Really back then homosexuality wasn't seen as all that of a big deal(I mean, hell, Heracles in the original legends had both male and female lovers). So, really he could have married Media(though I don't think he was supposed to, though I can't remember well enough to really be confident in that statement), and still probably be Petroculus.
@12layerdonut
@12layerdonut 4 жыл бұрын
OOPSIE DOOOPSIE MANSLAUGHTER? 🤣😂🤣😂
@CJCroen1393
@CJCroen1393 3 жыл бұрын
I like to think Patroclus and Achilles reunited in the Underworld and Persephone was SOOOOOO touched by their love that she asked Hades to do a wedding for them.
@araccoonwithalaptop8637
@araccoonwithalaptop8637 2 жыл бұрын
Im a year late buuuut in the Odyssey, when Odysseus goes to the Underworld, he sees Achilles and Patroclus reunited together. Your welcome
@Daycore_lovers
@Daycore_lovers 2 жыл бұрын
@@araccoonwithalaptop8637 this makes me happy thank you so much-
@stutid582
@stutid582 2 жыл бұрын
As freaking adorable that is… after reading all things patrochilles I could get my hands on, I must say, Patroclus deserves better than Achilles 🥺😅 (don’t come for me this is just my opinion) like I’m just saying, you shouldn’t have to DIE for someone to stop being an arrogant son of a bitch 🤷🏻‍♀️
@thelmainoah
@thelmainoah 2 жыл бұрын
@@araccoonwithalaptop8637 this is very nice, thank you
@lonlidood116
@lonlidood116 2 жыл бұрын
Specifically, Odysseus runs into Achilles, Patroclus and a few of their fellow warriors.
@fishboy499
@fishboy499 4 жыл бұрын
Patrocolous and Achilles: were very gay and their love was *crucial* to the story Historians: look at these good buddy pals. Such good *friends*
@doriangrayapologist
@doriangrayapologist 3 жыл бұрын
Achilles: mix my ashes with his, so we can be together forever. Historians: Just a couple of guys being dudes.
@mariuchiha4664
@mariuchiha4664 3 жыл бұрын
Me: Just a couple of dudes being gay.
@chinsaw2727
@chinsaw2727 3 жыл бұрын
Friends with benefits
@spacecat_scribbles
@spacecat_scribbles 3 жыл бұрын
Achilles, while lying on the ground weeping: "...my dear comrade Patroclus has fallen- he whom I valued more than all others, and loved as dearly as my own life..." Historians: ah yes. Friendship at its finest.
@pablomagno4679
@pablomagno4679 2 жыл бұрын
Two Bros, chilling in the army tent Wrapped on each other cause they're really gay
@keepperspective
@keepperspective 4 жыл бұрын
Justinian: “So there’s this city destroying riot and I’m just going to nip out…“ Theodora: “Get your ass back here and be the emperor I married!“ Historically supportive romance.
@jayemm5106
@jayemm5106 4 жыл бұрын
Remember kids, with love and support you too can gather tens of thousands of unarmed protestors into an enclosed space and unleash an army of professional soldiers to murder every last one of them!
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 4 жыл бұрын
Protesters who had burned huge chunks of the city, killed who knows how many people, and who you'd repeatedly tried to negotiate with, placate, buy off, etc beforehand, to no avail. I'm not one to condone mass slaughter, but those protesters where hardly innocent or bloodless.
@Rynewulf
@Rynewulf 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsinger4638 And don't forget they didn't do it over revolution, or poverty, or starvation or invasion: it was over a chariot race. Mass murder and destruction because sports, for not even the last time
@artofthepossible7329
@artofthepossible7329 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rynewulf A sport that also had gang warfare and partisan politics involved. Honestly I would be more surprised if it wasn't common, considering how violent modern day aspects on any of the three are, put them together and if a city doesn't get burned down or ransacked that would be a miracle.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rynewulf Well... more like a big incident bringing together rival political factions that happened to start as sport team fan clubs, hijacked by someone with power and a loud voice. It was a big mess; the only good thing to come of it is that nothing that bad happened again in Justinian's reign. Oh, and also Theodora's badass speech.
@illegalmemedealer3549
@illegalmemedealer3549 4 жыл бұрын
Patroclus and Achilles: exist Historians: 🎵two bros, chilling in the Trojan war, five feet apart cuz they’re not gay🎵
@illegalmemedealer3549
@illegalmemedealer3549 4 жыл бұрын
Anne TheReader I know
@fjordschrder2793
@fjordschrder2793 4 жыл бұрын
@Blub Blub Blob didnt Red do that in her di-vine deities
@jobansand
@jobansand 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@Forestxavier20
@Forestxavier20 4 жыл бұрын
Illegal Meme Dealer “ITS GUY LOVE, HE’S MINE I’M HIS!” - If it were written at the time, it would have been sung
@cecefernandes5657
@cecefernandes5657 4 жыл бұрын
But five feet close because they are gay~
@sansokun7864
@sansokun7864 4 жыл бұрын
Achilles and Patroclus, literally showing like 50 signs of loving each other: Everyone else: THEY WERE FRIENDS, BUDDIES, PALS
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I and friends often get confused for couples, loveing eachother is not always beeing a couple and bang . . . But still I am pretty sure they where ment to be read as a couple
@thedailybullshit4033
@thedailybullshit4033 3 жыл бұрын
Just a couple of guys bein dudes.
@corneliastreet2491
@corneliastreet2491 3 жыл бұрын
I love platonic love more than anything... But those two were boning, no cap.
@TekSing
@TekSing 2 жыл бұрын
They were war mates
@scionoftheemperor1240
@scionoftheemperor1240 2 жыл бұрын
Sexual Love is not the only kind of love. There are quite a few variations of the Tale of Troy, in some they are lovers in others they are simply incredibly close platonic friends. But the automatic assumption that close male friends just HAVE to be Gay is stupid and insulting to everyone.
@NathasyaStellaHermanus
@NathasyaStellaHermanus 2 жыл бұрын
Historians : argued whether Achilles and Patroclus were friends or lovers. Ancient Greeks : *argued who was the top and bottom of their relationship* P.S : Plato was sure Achilles was the bottom.
@Mia-dt3gl
@Mia-dt3gl 2 жыл бұрын
Aeschylus: Achilles was _erastes_ and Patroclus was _eromenos_ because Achilles avenged Patroclus violently in battle, and Patroclus took care of Achilles’s domestic matters! Plato: No! It was _Achilles_ was was _eromenos_ and Patroclus was _erastes_ because Achilles was pretty! So, yeah.
@NoName-in3sx
@NoName-in3sx Жыл бұрын
they are switches, problem solved
@NathasyaStellaHermanus
@NathasyaStellaHermanus Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Thales didn't even ship this couple
@MonsieurBananaTheBetter
@MonsieurBananaTheBetter Жыл бұрын
​@@NoName-in3sx the thousand year discussion solved in a single sentence, nice.
@EliasMheart
@EliasMheart 9 ай бұрын
@@NathasyaStellaHermanus Nice. Though, don't you mean Theseus?^^
@whatgsaid
@whatgsaid 4 жыл бұрын
Sailors Neptune and Uranus called. They would like to offer their condolences and solidarity to our Ancient Greek friends for also being subject to the Cousin Treatment.
@martonlerant5672
@martonlerant5672 4 жыл бұрын
Lets not forget that in a sick twist of history a not insignificant number of gay peopl in the US fake adapted each other to have right when on of them dies or has medical emergency. Later on some members of this group (when marriage became legal) married, and got persecuted for incest, yay!
@carloszapata847
@carloszapata847 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Achilles and Patroclus were both descents of the mirmidon kings, making them cousins or uncle and nephew depending on who you ask. This is not necessarily mean they were not lovers.
@goldeviolets4314
@goldeviolets4314 3 жыл бұрын
dragon heaven Nope, they led medea on by telling her that she was going to be married to Achilles when in reality they just used her as a sacrifice to Zeus
@goldeviolets4314
@goldeviolets4314 3 жыл бұрын
dragon heaven Achilles didn’t actually exist
@choryllis6646
@choryllis6646 3 жыл бұрын
​@@carloszapata847 Source please? I'm trying to find it but I can't find anything saying that they're blood related in any way, shape, or form.
@kon2175
@kon2175 4 жыл бұрын
Troy: * Achilles and Patroclus are cast as cousins despite not being cousins and being in love in the original work * Sailor Moon: * Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus are cast as cousins in the dub despite not being cousins and being in love in the original work * Me: “Oh yeah, it’s all coming together now”
@AquamarineDust
@AquamarineDust 4 жыл бұрын
"Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it."
@booty_hunter4207
@booty_hunter4207 4 жыл бұрын
Haha anus
@Kolbatsu
@Kolbatsu 4 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: if you want to give a gay couple the not gays, make them cousins
@TheShadowChesireCat
@TheShadowChesireCat 4 жыл бұрын
And now you've made this connection in my brain, I am imagining the main cast of the Iliad as Bishoujo Sentai.
@elijahpadilla5083
@elijahpadilla5083 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kolbatsu Now I'm tempted to un-cousin every close pair of cousins in fiction just to see what happens.
@revolutionarygoose4665
@revolutionarygoose4665 3 жыл бұрын
If a historian says two people of the same gender were "Very *very* close friends.", then they were probably lovers.
@oraclezone5026
@oraclezone5026 3 жыл бұрын
And if a boy and girl happen to be next to each other, "They were madly in love
@ILiekFishes
@ILiekFishes 2 жыл бұрын
@@oraclezone5026 shippers be like
@deodorant505
@deodorant505 2 жыл бұрын
and we know that's the cue for the fanfic writers, cuz the historians themselves were too week to write the good stuff
@Elliyan4
@Elliyan4 Жыл бұрын
@@ILiekFishes nah switch the gender, amke it gay and you got like 80% of shippers
@kayu.
@kayu. Жыл бұрын
@@Elliyan4 not really we live in a heteronormative society
@mellieblack8856
@mellieblack8856 4 жыл бұрын
"The Song of Achilles" by Madeline Miller really is an amazing book, and you all should go read it!
@Flareontoast
@Flareontoast 3 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to get it, but I'll try to wait until after my exams adhfsh
@thedailybullshit4033
@thedailybullshit4033 3 жыл бұрын
It's on my tbr, IK for a FACT it'll destroy me & I can't wait Update: UM I was just gifted a COPY by my mother & I'm FREAKING OUT
@jupiter2492
@jupiter2492 3 жыл бұрын
I've just completed reading it, and all I can say is, beautiful, extremely beautiful, the whole book is like a poetry...
@user-ti2lr1fn3l
@user-ti2lr1fn3l 3 жыл бұрын
*traumatized screeching intensifies*
@gc-qh7rr
@gc-qh7rr 3 жыл бұрын
*wailing and screaming and obsessing intensifies*
@persepunnyofthepunderworld621
@persepunnyofthepunderworld621 4 жыл бұрын
Girls on Instagram with captions like "Cupid blessed us!" Meanwhile, Red: Ah, Cupid. We don't talk about him.
@Fisinocean
@Fisinocean 4 жыл бұрын
Eros and psycbe for the win!
@shadowkingdarksin3980
@shadowkingdarksin3980 4 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂 cupid is the one god in history that nobody talks and treated as a joke like aquaman only his awrsome now.
@shadowkingdarksin3980
@shadowkingdarksin3980 4 жыл бұрын
@Jimin Bang exactly 😂
@silentspirit8923
@silentspirit8923 4 жыл бұрын
Eros: MOM! I'M STILL BEING CALLED CUPID BY THE MORTALS!! Aphrodite: Time to ruin some lives.
@nihilego3634
@nihilego3634 4 жыл бұрын
@@silentspirit8923 In Greek mythology Eros isn't Aphrodite son, but a Protogenoi, one of the primordial god born from Chaos.
@sebastianyarrick2041
@sebastianyarrick2041 4 жыл бұрын
"I am dismayed that I will never see a real life Bear-iot race" Not with that attitude you won't
@MURPHYCHACHO
@MURPHYCHACHO 4 жыл бұрын
Don't let your dreams be dreams, Blue!
@giggabiite4417
@giggabiite4417 4 жыл бұрын
MURPHYCHACHO Its funny, when I first heard that phrase I thought it was “don’t let your dreams be memes”
@Ajehy
@Ajehy 4 жыл бұрын
Not everyone is souped up on WAAAAAGH energy and has a Power Klaw. YOU set up the Bear-iot race, I’m pretty sure it’s the Valhallan planetary sport.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 4 жыл бұрын
We're here! We're Clear! We don't want anymore Bears!
@craftynerdybookish
@craftynerdybookish 4 жыл бұрын
Well, according to the ‘Secret History’ (I think) Theodora’s father got murdered by the bears so it’ll be a little more dangerous than fun
@grumpygato99
@grumpygato99 4 жыл бұрын
if people call my future wife a best friend of mine in the future I will come back from the dead just to shreik at them. .... is that why banshees are a thing?
@anonymouspotato3453
@anonymouspotato3453 3 жыл бұрын
It is now!
@AnimeSunglasses
@AnimeSunglasses 3 жыл бұрын
...you know, it WOULD make more sense that way...
@charadreemur8884
@charadreemur8884 3 жыл бұрын
it does add up...
@foxlover6770
@foxlover6770 3 жыл бұрын
Banshee’s do have lesbian energy so...
@dewmilk7266
@dewmilk7266 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm
@GustavoGplay
@GustavoGplay 4 жыл бұрын
How is it that the Valentine's day special isn't about Blue's relationship with medieval Venice?
@dustonpage1280
@dustonpage1280 3 жыл бұрын
Or domes? Sure he already made a video about that, but more domes?
@HaydenX
@HaydenX 3 жыл бұрын
Being separated by centuries necessitates that such a love be unrequited, and as such, can never truly be called a "couple".
@sharksuperiority9736
@sharksuperiority9736 3 жыл бұрын
The ultimate ship Or more accurately Fleet of ships
@homemadefilms5718
@homemadefilms5718 2 жыл бұрын
Really feeling the age gap here
@wanderingrandomer
@wanderingrandomer 4 жыл бұрын
Best Couples in History: 1) Henry VIII and- ... oh 2)Henry VIII and- ... oh no 3)Henry VIII and- ...shit 4)Henr- y'know what, never mind...
@theanimeidiot8903
@theanimeidiot8903 4 жыл бұрын
@@blep7943 Cathrine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, Anne of Cleves, Kathrine Howard, Cathrine Parr: rude.
@wy4455
@wy4455 4 жыл бұрын
@@blep7943 i think you mean the one that died before she could do anything to piss him of .
@artofthepossible7329
@artofthepossible7329 4 жыл бұрын
@@wy4455 That works as well.
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 4 жыл бұрын
Ah Henry VIII, the Bed, Wed, Behead champion of England!
@susanjoyce4244
@susanjoyce4244 4 жыл бұрын
Kaylee Tang rude...
@qafiansage4234
@qafiansage4234 4 жыл бұрын
Disclaimer on The Song of Achilles: The first two thirds are like wrapping your soul in cotton wool, and then the last third rips that cotton wool away and runs it over a goddamn cheese grater, in the best possible way. Read it, but... bring some tissues.
@scouttyra
@scouttyra 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Beautiful, but bring the tissues.
@atyourservice2410
@atyourservice2410 4 жыл бұрын
YAYYYY I love aww-ing and sighing at healthy relationships before having it all burn before me and leading me to cry myself to sleep! I’m a fucking masochist for angst, hit me.
@janicesong1146
@janicesong1146 4 жыл бұрын
agreed. that book actually killed me, i love it so much
@hotpinkcrayolas
@hotpinkcrayolas 4 жыл бұрын
I read it, I cried buckets, I read it straight away again, I cried more buckets and then I buried my soul in the garden because I will never love anything more than that book. My sibling gave me my copy and wrote in the front 'This book will destroy you. Pass on the pain' x
@geroleocata
@geroleocata 4 жыл бұрын
I read it and was tottaly captivated.... And forgot that it has practically the same ending as the Illiad.... Then I cried
@CommissarMitch
@CommissarMitch 4 жыл бұрын
Justinian: "City is burning. I am going!" Theodora: "Why are you running? WHY ARE YOU RUNNING?"
@phastinemoon
@phastinemoon 3 ай бұрын
City: You ready to fucking DIE? Theodora: I’m a bad bitch, you can’t kill me!
@allthebanter9316
@allthebanter9316 4 жыл бұрын
“Duplicitous, malevolent and incredibly slutty” I’ve discovered the title of my memoir
@silcrow4045
@silcrow4045 3 жыл бұрын
Mood.
@cheshirehavens6208
@cheshirehavens6208 3 жыл бұрын
Damn you for claiming it
@bacon6228
@bacon6228 4 жыл бұрын
The only reason that Achilles got caught dressed as a princess is that his friend ratted him out. Think about that for a moment.
@zusfrankenstein8561
@zusfrankenstein8561 4 жыл бұрын
Think about this for a moment: *Is Achilles a trap?*
@ladyemmeazerty411
@ladyemmeazerty411 4 жыл бұрын
It's not even that Odysseus ratted him out, Odysseus himself COULDN'T figure out which of the beautiful ladies was actually Achilles. He had to trick him to find out which one he was lol
@maggots7131
@maggots7131 4 жыл бұрын
He was like hey young princesses want jewels dresses silks maybe? oh yeah and I have an epic sword None of y’all would want that right? And Achilles went YOINK mine and handled it with such skill Odysseus figured out it was him
@reversal8250
@reversal8250 4 жыл бұрын
What y'all telling is Achilles was such a bad thiccy he fooled everyone.
@kgw72
@kgw72 4 жыл бұрын
Oddiseus thought, "If I gotta go to this stupid war, then everybody's gotta go".
@Jame5man
@Jame5man 4 жыл бұрын
Castille and Aragon: Isabella and Ferdinand are second cousins Habsburgs: Hold my chin
@seneca983
@seneca983 4 жыл бұрын
And lower lip.
@paris5410
@paris5410 4 жыл бұрын
Carlos II "El hechizado" (the bewitched): hold my drool and Klinefelter syndrome.
@ShadowClaw92
@ShadowClaw92 4 жыл бұрын
This is why you don't marry cousins... Or just don't do incest.
@astrangemann262
@astrangemann262 4 жыл бұрын
nicholas II be like
@lightningcat82
@lightningcat82 4 жыл бұрын
Relationships between second cousins are genetically fairly safe. As long as they are only related through one line, the trouble comes when they are related through multiple lines. The Habsburgs and the Ptolemys both had that problem to some extent.
@anthonyguntert251
@anthonyguntert251 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve gotta say calling Caesar a “knife wound aficionado” is absolute PERFECTION.
@riokollivier
@riokollivier 2 жыл бұрын
You now have 69 likes. Nice.
@Gabriel-xo2kl
@Gabriel-xo2kl 2 жыл бұрын
When I was at my University, my quite old Latin teacher taught us the story of Achilles. We were like: Yeah, go on, we already know this story, it’s boring. Because for us, it was only a story about war. Nothing else. But my last teachers never telled us about Patroclus and Achille relationship. This latin teacher did. He told us: So, Patroclus and Achille were in love. But unfortunately, Patroclus got killed etc…. And, we didn’t know they were in love. So I did research and turned out it was true. We then realized that it’s was also a love story, not just a war story. Plus, it was the first time I have seen a teacher talking about homosexuality without any issues. Usually, my other teachers tend to hide it or say « We are not sure, maybe they were just friends. »
@anu-lc2ke
@anu-lc2ke 4 жыл бұрын
regular people: valentines day, the day of whimsical romance, the day of- blue: HISTORY. HISTORICAL COUPLES. THAT’S ALL.
@clara-mm6fe
@clara-mm6fe 4 жыл бұрын
hence why we love him
@renaeturner1742
@renaeturner1742 4 жыл бұрын
And don't forget the discount chocolate
@RenoApostoli
@RenoApostoli 4 жыл бұрын
...and I'm absolutely fine with that!
@pxperrings
@pxperrings 4 жыл бұрын
I'm okay with that!
@AbelDuviant
@AbelDuviant 4 жыл бұрын
"Conquistadorable, if slightly deplorable" You are a word wizard
@ChronoShadow69
@ChronoShadow69 4 жыл бұрын
Lines like this are why I love Overly Sarcastic's writing-style~
@JaMeshuggah
@JaMeshuggah 4 жыл бұрын
I know right? "Ending centuries of beautiful multiculturalism" instead of "reconquering the European lands Muslims took from them and eliminate the obvious threat" haha wow
@joevenespineli6389
@joevenespineli6389 4 жыл бұрын
@@JaMeshuggah "jews and muslims across spain were forced to convert or leave, and thus the king and queen brought centuries of beautiful religious multiculturalism to a grinding halt" stop twisting words
@JaMeshuggah
@JaMeshuggah 4 жыл бұрын
@@joevenespineli6389 and that purposefully omits that Muslims took Spain by military force, taxed non-Muslims, and that was obviously a temporary occupation. Tell me, did/do the Indians like the beautiful religious multiculturalism under Islam??
@joevenespineli6389
@joevenespineli6389 4 жыл бұрын
@@JaMeshuggah Incompatible cultures dont get along, multiculturalism in of itself isn't the worst thing in the world, I dunno, the point of my reply is that the ending the multicultural thing isnt the result of the reconquest but the personal policies of the king and queen.
@bruh8027
@bruh8027 4 жыл бұрын
Pierre and Marie Curie were both scientists (as we know) but what you don't know is that Pierre fought for Marie to also get a Nobel prize because he helped a little but she did most of the work and he knew she deserved it.
@phastinemoon
@phastinemoon 3 ай бұрын
Such good friends! (A joke)
@zandrivanrhyn3178
@zandrivanrhyn3178 3 жыл бұрын
1:30 I absolutely love when he called Patrocles Achilles "person"!🥰 It's so cute! It reminded me of ever since I came out to my family, my mother has been calling all my future lovers my "person" as well! 😘 💏
@willowpackerthestoryteller135
@willowpackerthestoryteller135 4 жыл бұрын
"knife wound afficionato" is the best Julius Caesar nickname ever.
@alucard347
@alucard347 4 жыл бұрын
Affictionuto, if you know what I mean.
@friendlyreminder3280
@friendlyreminder3280 3 жыл бұрын
StAb WoUnD
@hedgehog3528
@hedgehog3528 4 жыл бұрын
Cute warriors that could pass for princesses Ancient Greece created the waifu
@JesseGolo
@JesseGolo 4 жыл бұрын
You mean trap.
@psyc8407
@psyc8407 4 жыл бұрын
You mean bishōen?
@matheussanthiago9685
@matheussanthiago9685 3 жыл бұрын
you mean Griffith
@alilweeb7684
@alilweeb7684 3 жыл бұрын
all of the above
@sopand2489
@sopand2489 3 жыл бұрын
They also created pigmaleon and galatea for that trope!
@QueenBoadicea
@QueenBoadicea 4 жыл бұрын
2:37 I've read this book. It's wonderfully written and sticks fairly closely to the original Homeric tale and fleshes out the romance between the two male lovers.
@Asthes
@Asthes 2 жыл бұрын
When my teacher stated to my class that Achilles and Patroclus were cousins I gave him a look of death and he immediately changed his answer to “some people said they were close friends, others said they were cousins but others stated they were…Boyfriends,” didn’t satisfy me but I didn’t wanna fight
@ell72852
@ell72852 Жыл бұрын
My history class will be discussing Ancient Greece soon and more specifically, the Trojan war. I have started to compile a list of evidence that patrocillies was cannon just in case.
@watching7721
@watching7721 11 ай бұрын
Lovers or not, they were cousins
@ell72852
@ell72852 11 ай бұрын
@@watching7721 just curious, what’s your source?
@watching7721
@watching7721 9 ай бұрын
@@ell72852 KZbin keeps deleting my replies. So I would suggest just looking it up
@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb
@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb 4 ай бұрын
​@@watching7721KZbin deletes links. Just say the title of your source
@silentspirit8923
@silentspirit8923 4 жыл бұрын
When Historical Ships become a topic on Single Awareness Day.
@Just_som_Ottur
@Just_som_Ottur 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Singles Awareness Day! Have a
@MlleLona
@MlleLona 4 жыл бұрын
*Single Awareness Day* You didn't have to hurt me like this ಥ╭╮ಥ
@silvertrimhill9844
@silvertrimhill9844 4 жыл бұрын
Stfu weeb
@marcello7781
@marcello7781 4 жыл бұрын
It's never too late. Say no to self deprecation. ;)
@DeerBonesBaby
@DeerBonesBaby 4 жыл бұрын
We're talking about Historical Ships? My favorite is the trireme!
@Parsmadon
@Parsmadon 4 жыл бұрын
Blue's incredulous laughter over the Parthenon being on some ancient toddler's gift registry gives me life
@hammer8339
@hammer8339 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@MichellaneousMe
@MichellaneousMe 4 жыл бұрын
J: You know what this needs? T: a giant hecking dome? J: *A GIANT HECKING DOME*
@artsyspectrum5749
@artsyspectrum5749 4 жыл бұрын
If Six The Musical has taught me anything, Cleopatra and Theodora need to make pop music
@jennifershay8980
@jennifershay8980 4 жыл бұрын
Artsy Spectrum I forget her name but she was known as the She-Wolf of France and took the throne from her husband to save her kids and then ruled as regent for her son. Can we add her?
@faithwright7958
@faithwright7958 3 жыл бұрын
Isabella of France. Her husband was Edward II of England.
@user-vb3rv2cr4t
@user-vb3rv2cr4t 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@kyle_mk17
@kyle_mk17 4 жыл бұрын
I will be getting loads of chocolate tommorow and reselling it at school, wish me luck in my capitalist exploits
@brokenaudio8856
@brokenaudio8856 4 жыл бұрын
That is genius!
@kassidytucker8431
@kassidytucker8431 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@slowmonet
@slowmonet 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck bud, let us know how it went!
@vibevibevibemcommentedtoda5717
@vibevibevibemcommentedtoda5717 4 жыл бұрын
My siblings and parents gave most of their chocolates to me (they're all really attractive and charismatic, that results to a LOT of admirers lol) and I sold them for a higher price at school two days ago lololol.
@christiancolon8748
@christiancolon8748 4 жыл бұрын
Stoks
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 4 жыл бұрын
"Ancient Greece, Gayest locale in history" Hahahaahaha. I mean it is true.
@royalpayn4089
@royalpayn4089 4 жыл бұрын
The Greeks invented the threesome. The Romans added the women.
@elektrakomplexet
@elektrakomplexet 4 жыл бұрын
It’s really not, Athens doesn’t represent the entirety of Ancient Greece. And homosexuality in Ancient Greece were mainly between an adult man and a young boy.
@broseidon1658
@broseidon1658 4 жыл бұрын
Elektra You must be fun at parties.
@elektrakomplexet
@elektrakomplexet 4 жыл бұрын
Poseidon Ikr?
@bluemobster0023
@bluemobster0023 4 жыл бұрын
@@elektrakomplexet dude it's still gay
@fromloverboy
@fromloverboy 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm talking about his boyfriend because OF COURSE I am." mood
@redtehfreak8022
@redtehfreak8022 4 жыл бұрын
Blue "Ah, I've avoided demonization by not mentioning graphic stuff." KZbin "He said the word gay, no rent money for you blue."
@PatrickCervantez
@PatrickCervantez 4 жыл бұрын
2:06 Ah... the Sailor Moon defense. **Because retroactive incest is preferable to homosexual true love.**
@caspianodinsson5084
@caspianodinsson5084 4 жыл бұрын
They still come off as a couple, in both examples. I don't know WHY they thought making both parties cousins would help anything but there ya go
@voivodadracula1936
@voivodadracula1936 4 жыл бұрын
Accidental wincest
@Slm99
@Slm99 4 жыл бұрын
Or bisexual.
@JonVonBasslake
@JonVonBasslake 4 жыл бұрын
@@Slm99 Yeah, no. Uranus and Neptune are pretty solidly lesbian. And i say this as a bi/pan dude who wants to see more bi presence in media. I, however, don't want it at the expense of other sexual minorities...
@Slm99
@Slm99 4 жыл бұрын
@@JonVonBasslake I wasn't referring to them, but to historical figures. Sorry for the misconception and misunderstanding.
@braxtonkatz5726
@braxtonkatz5726 4 жыл бұрын
Valentines day: **exists** Aphrodite: rISe AnD SHiNe
@gretablackwell495
@gretablackwell495 4 жыл бұрын
Eros: it’s go timE BABEY
@memyselfandi432
@memyselfandi432 4 жыл бұрын
Modern civilization: We have Valentine's Day. Roman Empire: AMATURES! *laughs in three day orgy - I mean 'fertility festival'*
@amethyst_cat9532
@amethyst_cat9532 4 жыл бұрын
Aphrodite: RISE AND SHINE IT'S WINE AND BANGING TIME Artemis, who has to put up with this bull every year: SHUT UP YOU THOUSAND-YEAR-OLD MATTRESS
@gabrielaubry1334
@gabrielaubry1334 4 жыл бұрын
Odysseus: "If I have to go, so do you!" Achilles: "Awww."
@thedailybullshit4033
@thedailybullshit4033 3 жыл бұрын
Patroclus: Well if he's going, then I'm going too! Achilles: Yaaayyy!
@sourdrop
@sourdrop 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Catherine of Aragon (Henry VIII's first wife) was the daughter of Isabella & Ferdinand.
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the word fun is compleatly misplaced in that context
@stressed_out_lettuce646
@stressed_out_lettuce646 4 жыл бұрын
*Me, seeing the thumbnail:* This better have Patrochilles... *Me, watching the first few minutes:* Aw hell yeaahhhhhhhh
@sopand2489
@sopand2489 3 жыл бұрын
My face mytho-historical ship!
@nothisispatrick4644
@nothisispatrick4644 4 жыл бұрын
Im suprised you didnt mention Julius Caesar and the senate *Their love was to DIE for!*
@PlantaWho
@PlantaWho 4 жыл бұрын
Wha-hahahahahah.
@q345ify
@q345ify 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't mention him and Brutus's mom
@peacecorenathan556
@peacecorenathan556 4 жыл бұрын
No this is patrick look it’s been millennia but too soon
@sarahcole9661
@sarahcole9661 4 жыл бұрын
No this is patrick Uh, oof?
@stoutyyyy
@stoutyyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Now I’m imagining some strange Caesar x Palpatine pairing
@brittanylegg6410
@brittanylegg6410 4 жыл бұрын
“Conquistadorable, If Slightly Deplorable”... Thank you, OSP, for that linguist gold.
@laurenhawes7201
@laurenhawes7201 4 жыл бұрын
I love how legitimately everyone doesnt care about getting valentines day chocolate but instead celebrates feb 15 of 1/2 price chocolate day
@shadowking1380
@shadowking1380 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I don’t even eat chocolate (or candy) anymore and I’d still go for that stuff lol cause 1/2 off
@zoegrabowski6188
@zoegrabowski6188 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE SONG OF ACHILLES!!!! I read the last few chapters and was sobbing my eyes out and my history teacher was just like wtf?? And then he saw what I was reading and was like “Ah” and patted me on the shoulder
@Ray-hk1zm
@Ray-hk1zm 4 жыл бұрын
"He has done nothing to me." *Faint screaming.*
@amphitritemists4595
@amphitritemists4595 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ray-hk1zm I read it last year and I still haven't fully recovered
@samanthafisher4368
@samanthafisher4368 4 жыл бұрын
@@amphitritemists4595 just read it and i sWEaR IVE been TRYING for HOURS TO DISTRACT MYSELF SO I MIGHT FORGET THE ENDING BUT I CAAAAAANNNT i keep sobbing now my eyes r tired
@amphitritemists4595
@amphitritemists4595 4 жыл бұрын
@@samanthafisher4368 The pain doesnt go away no amount of distraction works im still not over it Achilles asked for their ashes to be mixed together so that they would always be one and i cant just cant 😭😭😭😭
@annandres8483
@annandres8483 4 жыл бұрын
I literally finished it at school and went 'why'
@seanmurphy3430
@seanmurphy3430 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Aw, it's going to be a sweet video about historical romance... The video: NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
@theskyisteal8346
@theskyisteal8346 3 жыл бұрын
"They needed consent for their incest from the pope..." Me: "That's gonna be pretty tough..." "...who at the time was Rodrigo Borgia" Me: "ah, nevermind"
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but homosexual marriage and contraception are still forbidden these days . . .
@421less1
@421less1 3 жыл бұрын
@@arianewinter4266 to be fair pope francis has told catholics to drop the homophobia. Not that i love catholics but credit where credits due. Now if only they'd in front of the whole kid fucking thing.
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 жыл бұрын
@@421less1 I find covering the sexual exploitation of nuns offensiv to, but about the children it is way more well knowen. Than there is the fact, that priest dieing children is quite commen and those children get finances, but no one is allowed to talk about it . . . Great for the selfesteem of a child if the parentage is shamed and denied . . . Beside the realy big things, there are many smaler things swept under the carpet
@dreadpirateninjafox
@dreadpirateninjafox 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 жыл бұрын
@@dreadpirateninjafox thought that too ^^
@Vespuchian
@Vespuchian 4 жыл бұрын
5:53 The real question is: were the bears _pulling_ the chariot, or _riding_ the chariot? Or the greatest feat of all, _driving_ the chariot!
@lisam.jensen8184
@lisam.jensen8184 4 жыл бұрын
Straight up all 3.
@stefanfilipovits21
@stefanfilipovits21 2 жыл бұрын
I’d pay to see all 3
@ScoutingForZen
@ScoutingForZen Жыл бұрын
YES
@evobrand1210
@evobrand1210 Жыл бұрын
Or were they running after the chariots? Were they the chariots?
@ocean9577
@ocean9577 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most painful flex..
@randomcommenter7343
@randomcommenter7343 4 жыл бұрын
😥
@aapplleess9973
@aapplleess9973 4 жыл бұрын
69 nice
@Edd_Harr
@Edd_Harr 4 жыл бұрын
What I expected: Some cute historical couples, likely some drama What I got: *Beariot Racing*
@constellahestia
@constellahestia 4 жыл бұрын
we also got the Spanish Inquisition no one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition
@mrclueuin
@mrclueuin 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@katiegrossman2338
@katiegrossman2338 4 жыл бұрын
Aaah I’m so glad you mentioned patrochilles and the song of Achilles! It’s genuinely one of my favorite books ever!
@siiildie
@siiildie 4 жыл бұрын
for everyone looking to read The Song of Achilles- you should! it's a very touching and bittersweet retelling of Patroclus and Achilles' lives (from Patroclus's point of view), but a very heart-wrenching one. The way Patroclus describes his life with Achilles, and love for Achilles, will make you desperately yearn for a relationship yourself. I guarantee that there will be several moments throughout the book where you'd want to cry, laugh and rage. (especially at the end and every scene where Thetis is present.)
@francesleones4973
@francesleones4973 8 ай бұрын
Can confirm that, next to Agamemnon, I felt unbridled rage towards Thetis a bunch of times.
@iamstupidc3045
@iamstupidc3045 Ай бұрын
I wish i could read it but my parents won’t let me ),;
@juniperberryyyy
@juniperberryyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Two people in history: *are in a gay relationship* Historians: I'm just gonna pretend that didn't happen Edit: I just wanted to make a joke, but everyone's going all r/SapphoAndHerFriend in the replies
@forestelfranger
@forestelfranger 4 жыл бұрын
Or history happen over a long course of time. With people being killed, slaughter, things being burn down to the ground. Things have been lost or destroy, making the picture unclear. That and the video doesn';t link to his sources. So we can't double check them.
@strawberryfox8819
@strawberryfox8819 4 жыл бұрын
@@forestelfranger In the case of Achilles and Patrocolus, it is an ancient greek story, so the chances of them being lovers are really high. Greeks had gay relationships, mainly because men were the only ones allowed to study and have actual rights. A gay partner meant an equal partner. So most of the greek men had wifes and gay lovers.
@seneca983
@seneca983 4 жыл бұрын
"Two people in history" Though we don't know if they were actual people that existed. The Iliad and other such stories might be just stories or partially stories.
@elektrakomplexet
@elektrakomplexet 4 жыл бұрын
Madrigal Lol the evidence pointing that Achilles and Patroclus were lovers are all post-Homeric so quoting the Iliad is actually inaccurate
@smramos1979
@smramos1979 4 жыл бұрын
We also live in an age that wants to turn every male/ female only friendship into a gay/ lesbian partnership. It is possible that Achilles and Patroclus were gay, it is also possible they were not. In truth, homosexual relationships in Greece were not the same as they are today. It was something that the young were allowed to engage in, but the older you got the less acceptable it was. The Iliad does not give an age to Achilles or Patroclus, and that does make a difference. We rarely view history through context. We mostly view it culturally--are these people, who lived thousands of years before me, acting in a manner I approve or disapprove of. It is sad, because to often we look down on those people and make judgements over them, not realizing that some of the issues they dealt with, we are dealing with today and in much the same manner. People hate slavery today (because it is wrong to own people) and don't realize/ don't care about the harsh conditions in southeastern Asia, that mimics a lot of the conditions the American slaves went through. We only care that we can buy a cheap shirt at Walmart.
@legateelizabeth
@legateelizabeth 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, did Blue just portray the Illiad as a piece of genuine history? Is... is he a Hellenist?
@jaojao1768
@jaojao1768 4 жыл бұрын
Yea I thought that was quite strange too
@marcetteb6064
@marcetteb6064 4 жыл бұрын
There’s evidence suggesting it was based on at least some truth, just extremely distorted by time
@BawonoSA173
@BawonoSA173 4 жыл бұрын
Well, he did admit he has Greek in his blood. Somewhere
@rachelweck
@rachelweck 4 жыл бұрын
The Iliad is/ was the basis of history for centuries. Also Not entirely wrong if you take out the Greek god bits. So instead of Troy being caused by Aphrodite just say that Helen got kidnapped and you can find some facts to back that up. And instead of Kind of like how Rome had to be founded by somebody, so why not the two dudes Remus a nd Romulus. Just take a pound of salt and beware where people mixed that fact and fiction
@mad0813
@mad0813 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair there is evidence that the Trojan War was an actual thing so even if the characters are different the event happened.
@athroughzdude
@athroughzdude 4 жыл бұрын
"Never Trust Victorian Historians" Yep, that.
@phrophetsamgames
@phrophetsamgames 2 жыл бұрын
There's this part in "Song of Achilles" where Patroclus is watching Achilles mess around while dressed as a woman and it's such a great wholesome and light-hearted moment in such a tragedy that it stuck with me.
@Ozilus21
@Ozilus21 4 жыл бұрын
Best couple in history: Me and this channel... *I f*cking love this channel*
@artemis622
@artemis622 4 жыл бұрын
Ozilus My gay ass thought u were talking about a bag at first 😂
@lemsavage9473
@lemsavage9473 4 жыл бұрын
I ship it
@MM-mo6sv
@MM-mo6sv 4 жыл бұрын
I though you said I love f*cking this channel.
@Ozilus21
@Ozilus21 4 жыл бұрын
@@MM-mo6sv Why not? ( ಠ ͜ʖಠ)
@Ozilus21
@Ozilus21 4 жыл бұрын
@@artemis622 lol
@cid4761
@cid4761 4 жыл бұрын
*Looks up: 'Secret History, Theodora, Geese'* Mother of God...
@Grumplebumple
@Grumplebumple 4 жыл бұрын
On no now I'm even more curious
@carterl369
@carterl369 4 жыл бұрын
Lin C. It’s, something
@bjorntheviking6039
@bjorntheviking6039 4 жыл бұрын
Oh dear
@StarrTheWitch
@StarrTheWitch 4 жыл бұрын
*googles it* okay nope nope nope, I'm good! Don't need to read the full thing
@wiesscaballo4211
@wiesscaballo4211 4 жыл бұрын
That's . . . not even the worst . . .
@himitsunoakounto6258
@himitsunoakounto6258 3 жыл бұрын
"If you go, you know that i will go with you" -Achilles to Patroclus.
@isnotmimi
@isnotmimi 4 жыл бұрын
It seems a bit odd to mention Achilles and Patroclus in a history video, since they're more mythological. If you really want a famous classical gay male couple, Alexander and Hephaestion would do just fine.
@fictionlover2064
@fictionlover2064 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, we don't know how much was fictional and how much wasn't. For thousands of years, people thought Troy itself was fictional but evidence was found (ruins) in the place Troy was rumored to have existed that support the idea of the Trojan war being real. Also, if they were not real why would philosophers and historians later debate on their relationship?
@isnotmimi
@isnotmimi 2 жыл бұрын
@@fictionlover2064 Sure, there's evidence of a city at Troy in the period. But that doesn't mean every detail Homer wrote, including about specific individuals, is true. That's like if a historian a thousand years from now saying "There's strong evidence Sherlock Holmes was a real person - because archaeological evidence clearly shows London was an actual city!" With regard to "if they were not real why would philosophers and historians later debate on their relationship?" - Yeah I guess philosophers and historians wouldn't care about figures that weren't strictly real exactly as reported... *sideyes everything that has been written over the centuries about Imhotep, King Arthur, most of the Bible...*
@jacobhargiss3839
@jacobhargiss3839 2 жыл бұрын
@@fictionlover2064 historians debate their relationship because they are depicted in historical texts. And you can add characters to a real historical event, it happens all the time, and even if the case is that they were real. The specifics of their lives are often fabrications.
@Thecognoscenti_1
@Thecognoscenti_1 4 жыл бұрын
Emperor Gaozong of Song originally had a wife of the Xing clan, and when he was called by the Imperial court to negotiate with the Jurchen Jin, she took off her earrings, put them in a box and gave it to him. After becoming Emperor after escaping the horrific Jinkang incident, wherein his wife was captured and sent north along with the entire Imperial court, he took the box with him, and when fleeing Yangzhou to retreat from Jin forces, it was the only thing he took with him. That was how much he missed and loved her. *Edit. He later remarried to a woman who has the same surname as my mother (Wu) and probably was emotionally stronger than him. Although physically and mentally strong, he became so stressed by his country's situation he became infertile, and was permanently paranoid, scared and stressed. His wife, on the other hand, when pursued by rogue soldiers trying to steal the Imperial boat, took a bow, and shot three arrows into the crowd of rogues. They were spooked and pledged allegiance to the Imperial couple again. XD
@anhaaraahmed3597
@anhaaraahmed3597 4 жыл бұрын
So wait, was he never able to get back to his first wife?
@Thecognoscenti_1
@Thecognoscenti_1 4 жыл бұрын
@@anhaaraahmed3597 No, she was captured by the Jurchens, and along with the rest of the Imperial Court that didn't escape, was forced marched all the way up from Kaifeng to Manchuria, during which many people died of exhaustion, dehydration, and starvation, and during which the women of the Imperial Court were also almost certainly violated. The Empress at the time hung herself to avoid such a fate.
@WarriorVirtue
@WarriorVirtue 4 жыл бұрын
"Nothing seems to happen for nine years and then everything happens all at once." Welcome to siege warfare. Weeks, months, and even years of mind numbing boredom broken by brief periods of the most brutal fighting imaginable.
@lunarwaning
@lunarwaning 4 жыл бұрын
Blue: Theodora My brain, every single time: Dear Theodora, what to say to you?
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 4 жыл бұрын
Dude it is Theodosia
@lunarwaning
@lunarwaning 4 жыл бұрын
@@gokbay3057 I know that in the play it is Theodosia, but in the video he said Theodora and so that's what popped into my mind.
@leonellesleta9371
@leonellesleta9371 4 жыл бұрын
You have my eyes, you have your mother's name...
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 4 жыл бұрын
@@leonellesleta9371 when you came into the world you cried and it broke my heart
@Ray-hk1zm
@Ray-hk1zm 4 жыл бұрын
Blue: Aragon My brain, despite my protests because this wasn't the only interesting thing about-: My name is Catherine of Aragon, was married 24 years, I'm a paragon of royalty- Me: *Whoo safe* Blue: Had to ask the Vatican- Me: Wait no- My brain: *_MY LOYALTY IS TO THE VATICAN SO IF YOU TRY AND DUMP ME OOOHH Y O U W O N ' T T R Y T H A T A G A I N-_*
@laodice_III
@laodice_III 4 жыл бұрын
Shah Jahan and his Persian wife Mumtaz Mahal. The Taj Mahal is one of the New 7 Wonders of the World and it was built by the Turk emperor of India, Shah Jahan, with Persian architecture for his Persian Queen. Mumtaz Mahal was the "dearly loved" wife of Shah Jahan. The Taj Mahal is the symbol of love in the world.
@faehope3849
@faehope3849 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t he also murdered the builders of Taj Mahal in order to keep Taj Mahal from being built by anyone else. Like damn how are you supposed to react to that.
@laodice_III
@laodice_III 4 жыл бұрын
@@faehope3849 I don't know if Shah Jahan killed the builder of Taj Mahal or not. But I don't think so, show me the source.
@shirinchatterjee303
@shirinchatterjee303 3 жыл бұрын
@@laodice_III No there wasn't a single builder, he chopped off the hand of every worker who built the taj mahal
@laodice_III
@laodice_III 3 жыл бұрын
@Axiom Steel26 Google them.
@alphasword5541
@alphasword5541 4 жыл бұрын
Blue laughing at his own joke about the Parthenon as a gift was funnier than the joke itself
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 жыл бұрын
*Valentines Day:* [exists] *Cupid with bow and arrow being prepared:* _"OH YEAH, IT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER."_
@silentspirit8923
@silentspirit8923 4 жыл бұрын
Eros: PSYCHE THE MORTALS STILL CALL ME CUPID!!!
@dowottboy5889
@dowottboy5889 4 жыл бұрын
hey... cupid, I think you forgot somethi- never mind, I'll just... sit in the corner here...
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 4 жыл бұрын
Psyche: *grabs Eros by his toga before he pulls an Aphrodite*
@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing
@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing 4 жыл бұрын
@@anonymousfellow8879 misread that as 'before he pulls aphrodite' and I was like "ew! no!"
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 4 жыл бұрын
MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing Let’s be honest, that wouldn’t be the strangest thing in greek mythology 😅😵🤮
@s.g.7572
@s.g.7572 4 жыл бұрын
" The Habsburgs, whose subsequent empire was inversely proportional to the size of their gene pool" is genuinely a work of genius
@westloki3601
@westloki3601 3 жыл бұрын
1:41 what great friends.
@TheEsutan
@TheEsutan 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite couple is me and cheap chocolate from the corner store.
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
I ship it
@arithmomania1237
@arithmomania1237 4 жыл бұрын
Otp
@silvertrimhill9844
@silvertrimhill9844 4 жыл бұрын
Correction you and diabetes
@cid4761
@cid4761 4 жыл бұрын
Cool dude, mine is Ramen and Corned Beef mixed with potatoes and eggs.
@riversgoingnowhere1659
@riversgoingnowhere1659 4 жыл бұрын
EasternDragon why is cheap chocolate cheating on me?
@for.tax.reasons
@for.tax.reasons 4 жыл бұрын
Cleopatra and Mark Antony: History's Prime Disaster Couple should be the name of the official movie/documentart
@DarkLordGanondorf190
@DarkLordGanondorf190 4 жыл бұрын
"The Habsburg family, whose subsequent empire is inversely proportional to the size of their gene pool." Oh my God, how I wish I had come across a quote like that when I still had history lessons at school!
@mickeymickmick
@mickeymickmick 3 жыл бұрын
I see Achilles and Patroclus, I immediately press like, I see Madeline Miller recommendation I press love ❤️
@michaellewis1545
@michaellewis1545 4 жыл бұрын
Happy cheap chocolate eve.
@2Potates
@2Potates 4 жыл бұрын
Someone gave me the exact kind of chocolate i despise.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 4 жыл бұрын
...sadness. By the time I can by Sunday all the discount chocolate will be gone.
@kevinsullivan3448
@kevinsullivan3448 4 жыл бұрын
This and All Saints Day.
@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing
@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing 4 жыл бұрын
i really want to upvote this, but it's at 69 (nice) and I don't want to ruin it.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 4 жыл бұрын
MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing As of this reply, it’s at 132
@Belodri
@Belodri 4 жыл бұрын
'Whose subsequent empire is inversely proportional to the size of their genepool.' This is probably the best line you've ever written. Well done Blue!
@thecrownandthecow8123
@thecrownandthecow8123 3 жыл бұрын
Me: clicks on the video expecting it to be for of straight relationships Sees its full oh gay ones and someone is actually talking about lgbt erasure in history OH MY GOD IM SO HAPPY
@oraclezone5026
@oraclezone5026 3 жыл бұрын
Same :D !!!
@Holylinkx
@Holylinkx 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed really hard at the Rodrigo "daughter banger" borgia, excellent delivery
@unwantedmacguffin5611
@unwantedmacguffin5611 4 жыл бұрын
4:26 the cutest laugh ever.
@LadySnowfaerie
@LadySnowfaerie 4 жыл бұрын
Now I kinda want Red to make a "Best Couples in Mythology" companion to this. :D
@PlantaWho
@PlantaWho 4 жыл бұрын
Top of my head. Apollo and Hyacinthus, Persephone and Hades, Ho Yi and Chang E
@themockingdragon135
@themockingdragon135 4 жыл бұрын
@@PlantaWho when you say Ho Yi and Chang E I presume you're talking about the version of that myth mentioned second in the video?
@fantasyshadows3207
@fantasyshadows3207 4 жыл бұрын
Pwyll and Rihanna (I forgot her name)
@reikakuze628
@reikakuze628 4 жыл бұрын
What about Eros and Psyche? WHAT ABOUT PERSUS AND ANDROMEDA?! WHAT ABOUT THOR AND SIF?!?
@LadySnowfaerie
@LadySnowfaerie 4 жыл бұрын
Tam Lin and Janet. I'll concede that Red's version of Hades/Persephone is OTP, though. Also, Eros and Psyche.
@d0gbug
@d0gbug 4 жыл бұрын
“Just gals being pals”
@alienindisguise5546
@alienindisguise5546 3 жыл бұрын
In the same Bed 😏😒😏😏
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 жыл бұрын
@@alienindisguise5546 . . . not that unusual some cases realy are confusing. I totaly sleep in the same bed as my friends, we make plans that if romance does not work out, we later live togeather instead . . .
@alienindisguise5546
@alienindisguise5546 3 жыл бұрын
@@arianewinter4266 nice, I see that with ladies cause they're just So comfortable with calling each other cute or sleeping in the same bed sharing things. But most guys dont cause OH NO NOPE I AINT GAY CANT DO DAT
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 жыл бұрын
@@alienindisguise5546 I know several guys with the same mindset and my girl pals are lesbians . . . It realy depends on your personal social circle
@thedailybullshit4033
@thedailybullshit4033 3 жыл бұрын
Just some gals bein pals & guys bein dudes in ancient Greece.
@chloecoffin1169
@chloecoffin1169 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting in Patroclus and Achilles, and saying they were lovers 😌✨
@therichfrog6473
@therichfrog6473 4 жыл бұрын
My friend: what's your favorite quote? Me: "oopsie doopsie man slaughter" don't ask...
@fleeceblanket9515
@fleeceblanket9515 4 жыл бұрын
Devil's advocate: There is no proof of any kind that Rodrigo or his children committed incest of any kind. There's only unsubstantiated accusation from one of his personal enemies.
@_mediogre_
@_mediogre_ 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly someone's never played Assassin's Creed.
@BrawnyStream
@BrawnyStream 4 жыл бұрын
Mediogre I see I’m not the only one that basses all of my historical knowledge on assassins creed.
@ShinigamiInuyasha777
@ShinigamiInuyasha777 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrawnyStream Also Robespierre was a templard
@vincegalila7211
@vincegalila7211 4 жыл бұрын
@@fleeceblanket9515 so Atlantis existed and was ruled by Greek gods?
@vincegalila7211
@vincegalila7211 4 жыл бұрын
And apparently Rodrigo died a slow painful death during which he confessed to a lot of things.
@ultra_fern_forest
@ultra_fern_forest 4 жыл бұрын
kk but imagine catholic schools bein like “yea they bros” but then one student is like “hey do they got a thing goin on” but then the teacher bein like “weLL YEA BUT THIS IS CATHOLIC SCHOOL”
@OriginalCreatorSama
@OriginalCreatorSama 3 жыл бұрын
i read a tumblr post about that regarding The Great Gatsby actually.
@user-ks5ef2su9i
@user-ks5ef2su9i 3 жыл бұрын
That is literally what happened in my school lol. The teacher was so awkward because he didn’t want to offend anyone and I was saying that they were definitely more than friends. Low-key almost got in a fight with a homophobic child.
@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb
@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb 4 ай бұрын
​@@OriginalCreatorSamaWait who's gay in The Great Gatsby?
@annandres8483
@annandres8483 4 жыл бұрын
Us: are Patroclus and Achilles dating? Historians: well yes but actually no
@MeatGuyJ
@MeatGuyJ 4 жыл бұрын
"All the chocolate in the world is on sale." Except for the good stuff. That dark, dark 85% Cacao stuff.
@monochromie2175
@monochromie2175 4 жыл бұрын
delicious, bitter, darkness
@elibeth8399
@elibeth8399 4 жыл бұрын
My school has 99%, you can’t eventaste it at first
@MeatGuyJ
@MeatGuyJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@elibeth8399 85% is as far as I go in terms of cacao. Any deeper and it starts tasting like charcoal.
@mmyr8ado.360
@mmyr8ado.360 4 жыл бұрын
Just eat the cheap ones then snort some cocoa powder afterwards.
@carbonmonteroy
@carbonmonteroy 4 жыл бұрын
@@MeatGuyJ Conversely, anything below 60% is nauseatingly sweet, right?
@ilmisteriosofranceseradene7548
@ilmisteriosofranceseradene7548 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Aphrodite won't cause another decade long war to settle her OTPs and NOTPs.
@Rin-tp2dn
@Rin-tp2dn 4 жыл бұрын
I've read Song of Achilles like 5 times. And I wind up crying like a baby eVERY TIME
@kirbyjaeger2506
@kirbyjaeger2506 3 жыл бұрын
honourable mention to alexander and his boyfriend, cuz when his boyfriend died, alexander had the most lavish and extravagant funeral for him in the ancient world
@blessiemasancay4818
@blessiemasancay4818 3 жыл бұрын
My interest is piqued.
@gamechanger8908
@gamechanger8908 2 жыл бұрын
He and Hephaestion tried to emulate Achilles and Patroclus, the funeral games being similar to how Achilles also had funeral games for Patroclus funeral.
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