The Best gets Better - WD1861 V2 (WD1862 review)

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@gabelov
@gabelov 4 ай бұрын
I've ordered the black V2 yesterday. I didn't know you would make a review that fast with the link. Nice review as usual. Good job for Watchdives for listening to the feedback and improving.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@gabelov you could say I was.....speedy.....with my review?
@gabelov
@gabelov 4 ай бұрын
@@EscapeWheel 😉
@redtill1
@redtill1 4 ай бұрын
Watchdives are now my go to Chinese watch brand.Really well put together.Like that they are even puting 20-16mm bracelets on a watch this big.Thanks for another excellent professional review
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@redtill1 thank you, and thanks for watching. WD is really high on my list at the moment. With SM cranking out originals that I'm not o sure about, WD is listening to the crowd and putting out banger after banger.
@johnhunterpPhD
@johnhunterpPhD 4 ай бұрын
​@@EscapeWheelI sense that you're currently not a fan of the SN0144? May I know why?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@johnhunterpPhD I'm not, not a fan...it's a little plain and I've got a similar watch on the way (ere is ascent) so it's not that appealing to me. Their other stuff is really nice but it's just new colors in the same case/dial so again, just meh
@johnhunterpPhD
@johnhunterpPhD 4 ай бұрын
@@EscapeWheel You know, I understand where you're coming from. I appreciate when brands listen to enthusiasts but also they have to find and keep their own design language. Lots of people asked for more "symmetry", no crown guards, etc. Which made the SN0129 case evolve into a pseudo OP-like watch, like you said, a really plain one. Besides the dial which is not particularly well executed. The SN0129-2 three hander has presence and it became its own thing. The 0144... It's thinner I appreciate that. But it lost something in the process I guess.
@boomshanka8743
@boomshanka8743 4 ай бұрын
Nice Steve, I appreciate you working with WD on this. One of these will be in my Ali basket for November.
@multipl3
@multipl3 4 ай бұрын
Thinner case! I’m sold 🎉
@mechanix85
@mechanix85 3 ай бұрын
Yeah..me too🎉...i was about to go for Pagani because of the mid case size...but WD came with these V2...no regrets...im going for WD V2 now
@Chicken229
@Chicken229 2 ай бұрын
@@mechanix85Me too! I was also about to go for the pagani but then I saw this watch dive and i am SOLD!
@Schnauser693
@Schnauser693 3 ай бұрын
Bought this in black based on your review. I owned the pagani design v3 version which I wore only a couple of times, so my expectations weren’t too high. Got to say since receiving this I’ve not taken it off. The case size and fit is perfect and the legibility compared to the pd is in a different league. The bracelet was a little edgy I just removed the strap and rubbed the inside down. Keep up the great reviews 👍
@macastro501
@macastro501 4 ай бұрын
I just got the wd5512 because of your honest review. now, i am being sold to get this! keep it up, nice review as always
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@macastro501 thank you! 5512 is a heck of a sub homage 👍
@michaelj8793
@michaelj8793 4 ай бұрын
Ok I'm Definitely sold on V2 and yes I too think that it's worth the extra money Thanks for sharing as always my friend Be well and keep em coming 👍
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@adk7962
@adk7962 4 ай бұрын
Damn. Another video? Nice… version 1 was already the best bang for buck Speedy Homage out there. This makes it almost a no brainer. That white dial is a future purchase for sure for me. Thanks!
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
yeah, 2 in a day was a bit much...i had the Addiesdive video scheduled and forgot to push it back/up when the WD arrived friday.
@ericbouza854
@ericbouza854 3 ай бұрын
I like the thicker case and the crown and pushers sticking out better than the V2. I bought V1 and I'm glad . I like my watches to pop a little when on my wrist. 😊👍
@sergiotardon9213
@sergiotardon9213 4 ай бұрын
Great review as always Steve! I received mine today and I really love it. If I had to highlight something that I like less it would be the square cut out of the pushers. I prefer it rounded and closer to the pusher as the real one. The bracelet is good, but not as good as San Martin or Cronos (I know that this is a cheaper watch). Watchdives has done a really good job. I hope we can have a new version with thinner bezel, rounded pushers cut out and other improvements 🙂
@johnhunterpPhD
@johnhunterpPhD 4 ай бұрын
If WD makes an equally good bracelet to SM's for this kind of money that'd be incredible
@alexzovic5799
@alexzovic5799 4 ай бұрын
Regardless to all improvements in V2, the V1 thicker case shape gives to this watch more in uniqueness rather to represent the true copy of the original Speedy as V2. After watching both V1 and V2 reviews, I will definitely go for V1 while is still available for sale, now with reduced price. 😊 Overall thickness is insignificant between both versions (V1=13.8 mm vs V2=13.1 mm)
@gillyharwood
@gillyharwood 3 ай бұрын
Bought V1 6 months ago and just fell in love. The dial configuration is more important than the thickness and now after wearing the thickness is not an issue . The PD version just didn’t get the dial right. Just received the V2 white version and it’s just incredible, I feel though that the thinner case makes the Watch look longer on my wrist and therefore I don’t think I would upgrade to the black version. Hoping now WatchDives bring out the Alaska Project version … this would be awesome.
@pyr0sphere
@pyr0sphere 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to V3 with the thinner bezel. Depending on how the rest of the product is, will be looking to make a purchase when it gets released. Have skipped on V1 and V2 so far
@karlmibus5724
@karlmibus5724 2 ай бұрын
Is there any evidence to suggest this is actually happening? I'm kinda in the same boat (as well as hoping for the new logo design).
@jayarreyes3601
@jayarreyes3601 3 ай бұрын
Great review! I dont know if my eyes is playing with me but I noticed that the cutout of the case in the side of the Pushers, is not that good compare to the V1. Produces lots of space..
@KB-2018
@KB-2018 2 ай бұрын
Just ordered can’t wait to get this on wrist worried about the size 6,3/4” wrist 🤷🏽‍♂️ usually like the smaller dials but this was too nice to turn down
@bouldervideonews
@bouldervideonews 2 ай бұрын
I also have the same wrist size as yours. I'll appreciate it if you could update on how WD watch fits.
@AdAstraStakePool
@AdAstraStakePool 27 күн бұрын
Any update?
@bouldervideonews
@bouldervideonews 27 күн бұрын
@@AdAstraStakePool KB-2018 might not address our questions. As for me, WD1862 is out of stock, so I ordered the newer WD1860. I love the watch and am quite satisfied with my purchase.
@dr.derekrobinson1920
@dr.derekrobinson1920 3 ай бұрын
Hoping we see an updated minimalistic logo on V3
@ianclarke1683
@ianclarke1683 4 ай бұрын
Great to see WD are listening to their customers with the new V2. Hope WD can do a V2 of the WD79090
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
they are working on it. i've seen the case and it's much improved (thinner)
@GalorOffroad
@GalorOffroad 4 ай бұрын
I got mine today and it's awesome 😎 The look is perfect, it's exactly what i expected ! It is very close to the OG from a reasonable distance. The proportions are good even on my 17cm, it is the maximum size I can wear 👌 Overall I like it a lot ! But there's one thing I wanted to add : the edges of the bottom of the case, of the clasp, and all the edges of each small individual link making up the bracelet are pretty sharp 😅. I wasn't expecting a perfect finish for the price and I love this watch for what it is, but I must admit that I was hopping for a little better than that ^^
@borislavblagoev14
@borislavblagoev14 4 ай бұрын
Looks great! I really hope they make a V2 of the 16570 since now we know the can make a thinner case and they listen to their customers.
@oscaraldeguer
@oscaraldeguer 3 ай бұрын
Waiting for them to slap the new logo on it and I'll cop 🙂‍↕️
@intelligencefactors
@intelligencefactors 3 ай бұрын
I had my Rep Speedmaster from OMF Factory with handwinding Chrono costs me 500USD with the same quality as WD1861. I would go for WD1861 after watched this review, thank you mate!
@jayarreyes3601
@jayarreyes3601 4 ай бұрын
Great review Steve! Hope you can compare it with Pagani side by side. That will be awesome
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
I will try!
@neildavies4403
@neildavies4403 3 ай бұрын
On the real thing, the running seconds is obviously on the left subdial. As the VK63 is restricted to the running seconds on the middle subdial, then i think Watchdives should make the increments on the minute counter subdial less busy and only have markers at 5 minutes intervals. Then it would better resemble the real thing! If you glance quickly at a real Speedy the dial looks less cluttered and I think the left subdial is the problem!
@nuhuh9893
@nuhuh9893 3 ай бұрын
I don't think it needs to be a 100% 1:1 copy, it looks good as it is. I don't use chronograph timer much but when I do I like to see all the intervals on the minutes subdial.
@TyreAlmasri
@TyreAlmasri 4 ай бұрын
Picked up a MAMACOO's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
@DaftBunny
@DaftBunny 4 ай бұрын
Would label this the perfect homage, IF the bezel was just slightly thinner. Do you happen to know if that will happen? To me, the Speedmaster's appeal is mostly in it's dial and proportions. I think this Watchdives is spot on (and I ordered the V2 for it), but the only wish I have is that the bezel would be slightly thinner - for example like on the Phylida. Anyway, small gripe for such a great watch :)
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
there is talk about slimming the bezel. not sure how they will do it...whether they take a mm or so off the I.D. of the bezel and increase the dial/crystal, or just take a mm off the O.D of the bezel and call it a day. I think the later is the more reasonable since it's just changing 2 parts vs changing 4 parts...enlarging the dial my throw off proportions as well. I believe V3 will have a slimmer bezel but a worse (read: same as pagani) crystal. and be priced more competetive to the PD. maybe we'll see a V4 with the nice crytsal, slimmer bezel, and the new logo. I for one can live with the slightly thicker bezel...it still looks great IMO
@OldSlabsides45
@OldSlabsides45 3 ай бұрын
@@EscapeWheel If they took off a mm of the ID of the bezel, and just had a ring of black space around the printing as is, it would mimic the speedy
@jwags24
@jwags24 4 ай бұрын
Love the upgrades! Do you know if the clasp can be swapped out? I’ve seen other companies sell quick adjust clasps , and it would be great on something like this. Thanks for the review!
@gabelov
@gabelov 4 ай бұрын
You can change the clasp.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
You'll need to find one compatable with springbars at 16mm which is tough to find ...I suggested to them to create one attaching with springbars so they could use them on their watches, the FKM CTS straps and for upgrades to older models.
@bensynewsshoedown4999
@bensynewsshoedown4999 4 ай бұрын
Steve, the other really exciting, unique Watchdives release (I hope) is the 16mm on-the-fly clasp that you and many if us have been asking for. I *think* its close!
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@bensynewsshoedown4999 yes, really looking forward to that one. They put the request for a large quantity into the manufacturer, so we'll see 🤞
@atoz6552
@atoz6552 4 ай бұрын
Maybe it's me but I think that the square opening holes for the push buttons are not aestically correct, especially next to the actual Omega design. The V1 was better in that matter. I own both the Black and white V1 versions and they seamed to be correct in that way. I'll wait for the V3
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@atoz6552 yeah, something I noticed as well, but willing to overlook it since there are some other things not identical to the Gen speedy. We can't be too picky 🤣
@dallasco
@dallasco 4 ай бұрын
Any chance you could make a comparison video between this and the newest pegani version?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
it's something i've thought about for sure.
@BoboacaDoxaras
@BoboacaDoxaras 4 ай бұрын
I've recently began my obsession as a watch collector. And i must say- out of all the luxury brands I've been researching, for me the AMZWATCH's watches are the most intriguing.
@jayarreyes3601
@jayarreyes3601 3 ай бұрын
Im sold! 😂 bought one already. the problem with the misalignment of chronograph hand if reset around 5 to 7 is still present. Ive tried it many times and it deviates from left to right if reset at those position below 5 and 7 😂
@jorgecarrasco4206
@jorgecarrasco4206 29 күн бұрын
Would be nice to compare it to the omega. Great review as always
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 29 күн бұрын
@@jorgecarrasco4206 anyone want to lend me a speedy? 🤣
@Andydydy2819
@Andydydy2819 4 ай бұрын
I love these new improvements. Wish the price a bit cheaper
@zosothezephead837
@zosothezephead837 4 ай бұрын
I'm not laying out that kind of money for a 1mm thinner, lighter case. V1 is perfectly OK for me. There'll be V3 in a few months so I'm got getting into the upgrade game.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
V3 will be aodd one...thinner bezel maybe and a downgraded crystal to compete price wise with Pagani. 🤷
@aLzkicks_efootball
@aLzkicks_efootball 17 күн бұрын
Its not available in the website. Do you have aliexpress link of the watch?
@WatchWitt
@WatchWitt 4 ай бұрын
Dial looks clean! I like the glossiness of the Pagani bezel better, but otherwise this looks to be superior.
@nuhuh9893
@nuhuh9893 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I don't understand why this V2 has an aluminium bezel insert instead of ceramic. Surely ceramic is the more popular choice?
@achraftahir
@achraftahir 4 ай бұрын
It’s been 9 months since they said they were doing a moonshine gold with green dial and bezel. Any news ?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@achraftahir none that Ive seen, but I haven't been interested in anything other than the "standard" speedy.
@ClevaTreva
@ClevaTreva 4 ай бұрын
Their new logo - is it the Trident on Shield? I might just get this once the new logo is on.
@mlorenzoblack
@mlorenzoblack Ай бұрын
Is the bezel damaged around 6? Came like this from factory?
@LandsoulFFXI
@LandsoulFFXI 2 ай бұрын
wasnt completely sold yet on WD but looking closely at the details it does appear than WD is a better watch than Pagani. This is a little nitpicky, but since its a moonwatch shame they didnt add anything on the back like Pagani.
@jj1234346
@jj1234346 4 ай бұрын
This watch is so awesome it made me look at it for 3 weeks straight and wish I had the real thing…. I did it and got the lunar pilot all chrome no date for 350… it was worth it! Watch dives just makes you want the real thing or a real conversation starter with pride
@ShalisaDume
@ShalisaDume 4 ай бұрын
I have never been disappointed since I became a customer of AMZWATCH. Their watches are of exceptional quality.
@Martin94416
@Martin94416 4 ай бұрын
Already ordered one :)
@morganstrapco
@morganstrapco 4 ай бұрын
I really enjoy mine!!
@gabiedubin
@gabiedubin 4 ай бұрын
honestly it's kinda crazy how they adressed everything that was wrong with the watch.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
it's not crazy when you see their interactions with the community on Reddit. they are always there, talking to the people that buy the watches and taking their feedback to heart. we basically designed that dial for them. they had a pagani like dial at first and we said no...they scrapped the dials they had and started over and ended up with the best speedy dial around. that's the type of company WD is. listening to their customer base. I highly suggest you check out reddit r/chinesewatches and r/watchdives
@davidsonviray1403
@davidsonviray1403 3 ай бұрын
you think this will look big on a 6.5/6.4 iinch wrist?
@aLzkicks_efootball
@aLzkicks_efootball 17 күн бұрын
Of course
@watchspinn
@watchspinn 2 ай бұрын
How are the midlinks? I got the V1 and pulling my finger over the midlinks it feels somewhat sharp and not smooth to the edges. :(
@SirBlackieChan
@SirBlackieChan 4 ай бұрын
Any progress on WD having an “EU warehouse” like SM?
@nedflanders3769
@nedflanders3769 4 ай бұрын
the chronograph minute accumulator hand - does it snap over when it hits a minute, or does it slowly advance the whole time?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
slowly advances, sadly
@jeremiahjohnson8343
@jeremiahjohnson8343 4 ай бұрын
@@EscapeWheel That is my biggest issue with these quartz chronographs. I would give up the sweeping chrono hand for a snapping minute accumulator like on the Ronda 3540.D.
@bensynewsshoedown4999
@bensynewsshoedown4999 4 ай бұрын
Speedy Speedy Stevy! Oi, Oi, Oi! 🎉 Thanks for this review!
@lengx.9798
@lengx.9798 4 ай бұрын
The bezel is still misaligned or misprinted...
@scubaru100
@scubaru100 4 ай бұрын
Great review Steve! Wondering if the bracelet endlinks would fit an actual Speedie Professional. Any chance you have one and can try? (I have the OEM bracelet with the old single micro adjust hole - this could be a nice affordable option)
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@scubaru100 I don't have one, but it might be close...these fit the uncle Seiko endlinks for speedy, so 🤷
@tonydilucente2342
@tonydilucente2342 3 ай бұрын
It's a lovely homage.
@frithiofandersson
@frithiofandersson 3 ай бұрын
This with a nice hesalite-like crystal.. 🔥
@xtiankruse1
@xtiankruse1 5 күн бұрын
What about the newest 1860? Same dimensions? Anybody knows?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 5 күн бұрын
@@xtiankruse1 slightly thicker, but otherwise very similar
@pizzahotline_
@pizzahotline_ 4 ай бұрын
Nice! Do you know if they sell the bracelet separately?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@pizzahotline_ it would be worth asking them, but they don't have a listing for it.
@Sixtetzhostdeindreck
@Sixtetzhostdeindreck 4 ай бұрын
the bezel is still a little to wide. Should be a little thinner
@DFlemming
@DFlemming 3 ай бұрын
Those end lugs tie down and look like they would dig into the wrist. Doesn't look comfortable. Had that issue with the Tissot V8 many years ago.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 3 ай бұрын
I know all wrists are different, but for me, it's a non-issue. very comfortable all day long.
@inventor1v
@inventor1v 4 ай бұрын
The perfect speedy would be a mk2 watchdives dial and bezel in a pagani case! Anyone going to make one?
@TheRudeboyrebel
@TheRudeboyrebel 4 ай бұрын
I've ordered this in white with the splash of red, V2. Thanks.
@yashinisuki
@yashinisuki 3 ай бұрын
Is the bezel still as thick as before?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 3 ай бұрын
@@yashinisuki yes, same bezel
@beerkegaard
@beerkegaard 4 ай бұрын
When it looks this similar, might as well slap an Omega logo on it
@ivoshandor6859
@ivoshandor6859 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s the whole principle behind “homage” watches.
@nuhuh9893
@nuhuh9893 3 ай бұрын
@@ivoshandor6859 Not quite, this Speedy is basically a 99% clomage. Homages at least have something slightly different to the original. 😆
@ivoshandor6859
@ivoshandor6859 3 ай бұрын
@@nuhuh9893 99%… slightly different… wouldn’t that 1% be the slight difference ?
@nuhuh9893
@nuhuh9893 3 ай бұрын
@@ivoshandor6859 I guess it's subjective, but that WD Speedy has evolved through feedback to be as close as possible to the original. There is talk of V3 already, people probably won't be happy until it's a fully 1:1 copy apart from the logo. I have nothing against these watches though. I just wish they could make the watch right the first time without having to release six versions of it in Pagani's case. When people are looking for a 1:1 copy though I guess that's unavoidable, they can't please everyone.
@coredog64
@coredog64 4 ай бұрын
If they ask for feedback, tell them we want a Tintin dial.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
Hoping to see some more dial variations come out soon 🤞
@rulo1791
@rulo1791 2 ай бұрын
New profile shape is much similar to pagani one
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 ай бұрын
@@rulo1791 Pagani homages the previous gen speedy, this one homages the newest gen speedy. It does look much better than the V1.
@NecKClippA
@NecKClippA 4 ай бұрын
Man if only they made the bezel thinner and used the new Trident logo....
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@NecKClippA maybe in a version 4 🤷
@NecKClippA
@NecKClippA 4 ай бұрын
@@EscapeWheel I was disappointed because in all of the teaser renderings of the V2 they used thinner bezel like the OG speedy :(
@johnhunterpPhD
@johnhunterpPhD 4 ай бұрын
I actually prefer this thicker bezel as it gives more presence to the watch, it is more masculine and helps differentiate it. I also like the logo, I like that it doesn't take itself so seriously which happens a lot with many brands and that's corny. And it's going to be covered by the chrono's second hand the whole time in any case
@nuhuh9893
@nuhuh9893 3 ай бұрын
Nah, that new trident logo reminds me too much of Gordon Ramsay's Hell's Kitchen TV show. I'd probably still prefer their old logo even though I hate it, at least it suits the style of the Speedy better in my opinion.
@ccooper8785
@ccooper8785 4 ай бұрын
That is a good improvement over version 1 although I would still go for the PD. Pagani Design v3 would be even better had they not removed the 2 iconic dots at 12 o'clock for some crazy reason. Hopefully Watch Dives slim the cases of some of their other watches as many of them are too "blocky" (has not stopped me from buying 2 of them though 😍👍).
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
They are working on slimming the WD79090 and WD16570 will be in the works soon
@Yakoz25
@Yakoz25 Ай бұрын
They just released a new version, 0.2 mm slimmer
@cbody70
@cbody70 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative review. They went the wrong way widening the watch. This review could have been better with the latest version of PD for comparison.
@Jordan-fg9cc
@Jordan-fg9cc 4 ай бұрын
every version of PD is 42mm or larger, mine measures 42.43mm across.
@bernardmt7090
@bernardmt7090 4 ай бұрын
Old and I can't see n read the dials time and no backlight. I stopped wearing analog watches 30 years already. 😅😊
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
indiglow man! get yourself a Timex!
@IaMaPh1991
@IaMaPh1991 4 ай бұрын
Will they ever make a mechanical chronograph Speedy homage again? Ive had my Alpha 93 Speedy for a good while and apart from the iffy clasp the watch itself is great, and so far the only homage I know of with a proper mechanical chronograph movement. Id happily more for an homage, even a '57 Speedy with no bottom register to avoid that dreaded useless 24-hr subdial that just eats up dial real estate. Now if they made these movements so that the 24-hr complication was an elapsed hour counter, even if only up to 6 hours with 30-minute half markers between the 6, be it mechanical or a high beat mecha-quartz, Id be all over that.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
Phylida sells an ST19, and San Martin does as well, a speedy 57 (I reviewed it a while back) but not sure it's stills available
@bigprocrastinator
@bigprocrastinator 4 ай бұрын
Sirry, but how does Omega allow for such blatant IP infringement?
@darksideka
@darksideka 4 ай бұрын
Because they're called Homages and Probably the original patent designs have expired most of these designs are pushing 50/70+ Years now and the only way Rolex/Omega and other Luxury brands can do anything about it is if they slapped those companies logos and text on these watches?
@ChrizzLau69
@ChrizzLau69 4 ай бұрын
Who cares? Everything nice has, and will be copied.
@KwadwoBoachieAmankwah
@KwadwoBoachieAmankwah 4 ай бұрын
I will humbly suggest that you direct this question to Omega makers. To some of us we just don't care. Having the Omega design with a price that is attainable is enough. After all, they are not trying to pass them off as Omega, and anyone who buys them knows they are not paying that money for an Omega watch.
@emberkedves6330
@emberkedves6330 3 ай бұрын
👌🏻
@Doctorevil666
@Doctorevil666 Ай бұрын
What a pity it's not 50 mm lug to lug. I've got a 8 Inch wrist and they all feel awkward including the real thing they also look a little feminine on a guy my size 6' 3
@kobusvanrensburg4092
@kobusvanrensburg4092 4 ай бұрын
I really like this. Yes the Pagani is cheaper, but honestly the Pagani watches are so hit or miss....just get this instead.
@YKYuji
@YKYuji 4 ай бұрын
AT LAST!
@stenic2
@stenic2 4 ай бұрын
The case sides are ugly
@Yakoz25
@Yakoz25 4 ай бұрын
😮😮😮
@Joerilla369
@Joerilla369 4 ай бұрын
would buy it too if there was a sterile version
@jayfra100
@jayfra100 4 ай бұрын
So essentially Watchdives made a pagani copy and doubled the price of the pagani ? 😂. This V2 needed to be 20% cheaper based on existing materials. Nice watch but not sure what watchdives were thinking with the pricing…….
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
no...inform yourself before making allegations. the Pagani uses recycled parts...the same case, dial, and bracelet can be found on 3 different brands (PD, Megalith, and one other one I can't remember) the sheer production numbers alone drive the cost down. the WD case is bespoke to them and they are the only ones using it...same for the dial. custom made specifically for them. bracelet may be "off the shelf" but I am yet to find another speedy bracelet tapering to 16mm, so again, possibly bespoke to them. as well as the bezel insert is also custom for them (all this drives up the cost, and we are just talking production numbers and nothing else.). the watch is finished nicer, has a much more expensive (and nicer) crystal, better lume, and a nicer bracelet. the watch costs double because it's more limited in production numbers and it's just Nicer...we have to stop taking a watch for the sum of it's parts and look at the whole picture. this would be like comparing the Pagai Submariner to one of San martin's original designed watches
@jayfra100
@jayfra100 4 ай бұрын
@@EscapeWheel Regardless of reusing cases, the pagani is still the better value proposition considering both pagani and watchdives are essentially copying a classic design. Bespoke or custom to watchdives has no bearing here. Stainless construction, SAPHIRE crystals, Seiko mecaquartz movements… ceramic bezel on the pagani and aluminium on the WD. It’s swings and roundabouts as they say…. Look, I like the WD offering, it’s nice.. my initial comment and contention is on the pricing for an Ali Express mecaquartz watch… it’s expensive in comparison to the PD and many other Seiko mecaquartz offerings on Ali that have almost identical specs. With the WD007 I can understand the pricing as it’s a more unique offering in terms of materials used and execution. We can agree to disagree on this one. ☮️
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@jayfra100 I was merely saying specs aren't everything. There's a reason a Christopher ward is $1200 while some random micro rand with the same movement is $600. The PD is incredible value indeed...no denying that. But the WD isn't just a copy/paste and a price hike like your original post insinuated
@MeanJoeLean
@MeanJoeLean 4 ай бұрын
Good review as usual. Random opinion: that watch would be (to me) far more interesting in navy blue instead of black...
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
I'm really hoping we see some more color options now that they have got the case right. there are soooo many speedy options out there (not sure they ever did navy blue though) that the possibilities are endless.
@FanOfMuftiMenk
@FanOfMuftiMenk 4 ай бұрын
Homage is legal? Omega can sue watchdives?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@FanOfMuftiMenk it's legal...the Speedmaster design is, what? 60-70 years old now? Any design payments have LOOONNG run out on those watches. Same goes for other icons like the submariner. Some brands have other protection..I know Breitling and Cartier are pretty strict and will go after homages for copying their designs.
@jonirwin7316
@jonirwin7316 4 ай бұрын
What a HUGE ripoff.
@maitrehg
@maitrehg 4 ай бұрын
Maybe legal but so pathetic 🤢🤮
@jonirwin7316
@jonirwin7316 4 ай бұрын
@EscapeWheel yes, the patents have expired, but it is still a rip-off. Anyway you spell it. It's not a new design. Just a wannabe.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@jonirwin7316 it's just watches, man. No need to get so serious. I still aspire to own the real deal, but until then, this will have to do.
@stavros_katsopr
@stavros_katsopr 4 ай бұрын
Someone's jealous of Jody, trying to make "pants/shorts" shots?😜😂😂
@bensynewsshoedown4999
@bensynewsshoedown4999 4 ай бұрын
Yes, 'homaging' Mr Erebus!
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
@@bensynewsshoedown4999 Hey, I bought his watch, He Owes it to me :P p.S. I need to get some fancier shorts...lol
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
haha, indeed.
@guidine7
@guidine7 4 ай бұрын
We need this to be automatic even to a higher price 💁
@robertmatas4192
@robertmatas4192 4 ай бұрын
I get why people would buy this, but for me; I'd rather buy an original Seiko over a Speedmaster knockoff. It will make me appreciate the real Omega Speedmaster when I can afford it.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
I get that...and I was there at some point...I honestly just don't like the design of the siko chronos...and if I do, I don't like the size.
@robertmatas4192
@robertmatas4192 4 ай бұрын
@EscapeWheel I used Seiko as an example... what I meant was; I'd buy a cheaper brand that has its own look rather than a knock off. Most people wouldn't notice that it is not an Omega, but I would know ans that would bother me.
@KwadwoBoachieAmankwah
@KwadwoBoachieAmankwah 4 ай бұрын
Show me a Seiko watch at this price point with this same quality material and level of finishing.
@robertmatas4192
@robertmatas4192 4 ай бұрын
@user-ex6tu3ds7y everyone is so defensive! Lol... all I'm saying is I'd rather have the authentic watch. But until I can afford it, buy something less expensive that has its own look, not a knock off. Seiko was an example... plenty of other watch brands out there not imitating a Speedmaster.
@arisaga822
@arisaga822 3 ай бұрын
Save your money, buy a real speedmaster. Even if it takes you 3 years.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 3 ай бұрын
@@arisaga822 it's what I'm doing now...but $150 isn't going to make or break a $4K+ watch purchase...so why not enjoy this for the time being...test out the size, the style, make sure I really want to drop that kind of coin on the real deal.
@topas8941
@topas8941 4 ай бұрын
Id be ashamed walking around with such a cheap copy
@simonchow6894
@simonchow6894 4 ай бұрын
You are not important at all. People won’t care about what you have on your wrist.
@hairyfishcakes
@hairyfishcakes 4 ай бұрын
@@simonchow6894, the guy just said he’d be ashamed of such a rip off copy on his wrist…. And I agree with him 100%…… What you are suggesting is that people buy original watches for the benefit of others, you are classless my friend, imagine if you had the real speed master, I’d bet you’d be showing it to everyone 😂😂
@searchandsave142
@searchandsave142 4 ай бұрын
@@simonchow6894hey keyboard tuff guy how do you know he’s not important and you not he made it about that. It’s his preference not yours as is yours is yours, his is his and mine is mine. What a douche
@simonchow6894
@simonchow6894 4 ай бұрын
@@searchandsave142 he was naive enough that people care about what he wears . Seems like you are on the same boat as him.
@ChrizzLau69
@ChrizzLau69 4 ай бұрын
I’d be ashamed to pay that much for a watch that only cost a few hundred to make. Who’s the real fool here? 😂 🧠
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