The best (in my opinion) PVZ mod

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

The best thing about Alterverz, Nightcast and Reflourished is the fact that, unlike eclise, is actually improving each new version instead of making it worse.

[@Stirling96]

True

[@piotrm5635]

yes eclise is TRASH

[@k1baede728]

Do y'all ever get bored of slandering the same thing over and over lmao

[@Stirling96]

@@k1baede728 No.

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

@@k1baede728 any mod deliberately locking tiering of certain plants for future updates in hopes of keeping players long enough for the patreon to grow is a bad mod in my eyes. Older versions were better.

[@trashley5972]

Played through everything this mod has to offer (minus some community levels) and this is so damn fun. Like you said its a great middleground mix of 1 and 2 and the level design is so damn fun (except for that one nmt level that does fill a horizontal row with plants and dont lose to many)

[@TheReal716]

All the plants are unlockable right? (I mean the ones that need payment in the og pvz 2 game)

[@trashley5972]

@@TheReal716 not every vanilla plant (there are far too many for a balanced mod to deal with) but there are still a wide variety of plants in the mod with more coming soon in the bwb update

[@butter0989]

Really the NMT level that suck is the point score one because point objectives suck

[@sss1851]

minus? minus8?

[@idkmyname5893]

​@@trashley5972Thank god man, I was really looking for a mod that has all plants unlocked but the ones I found gave like infinite gems, coins, suns and all plants are at Max mastery to the point where it just ruins the experience and takes out all the fun from the game.

[@_Whyro_]

The only thing odd about this mod is the art in my opinion. Most exclusive zombies doesn't really capture the pvz2 artstyle except for the chili bean event zombies.

[@ItsPForPea]

More feedbacks would be nice! The AltverZ team has a lot of artists and they'll be grateful if you can point out the problems you find with the arts in detail!

[@_Whyro_]

@@ItsPForPea Some of the zombies have really thin outlines and too much detail on them, this doesnt make the art bad in any way just looks really different from the pvz2 artstyle. If I have to give an example the armor for the webhead zombie or a summer ra zombie would be good examples to this. In the other hand the the reanimator zombies redesigned look fixes all thoose problems I mentioned over his old design. And like I said the chili event zombies and specially the magician zombie looks straight out of the vanilla game.

[@ygor_eeu]

@@_Whyro_ Thanks a lot for your feedback. We try to stay faith to the vanilla artstyle but also putting our own "twist" to it. But we will try to improve it.

[@_Whyro_]

@@ygor_eeu No problem at all. Like I said the art is not bad or anything it just looks really strange around other assets from the game. Keep up the good work!

[@LunuticsPvZ]

Me when all the examples are my art 😦

[@justsomerandomboi5390]

Well after missing literally every one of your streams on this game i cant do anything other than play this. Youve got my attention.

[@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370]

didnt think I would find a person with an angry birds evolution bird as their pfp but here we are

[@justsomerandomboi5390]

@@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370 it looks incredibly funny to me idk why

[@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370]

@@justsomerandomboi5390 do you play the game or did you just randomly find that picture?

[@justsomerandomboi5390]

@@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370 used to

[@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370]

@@justsomerandomboi5390 ok. btw fun fact I almost go banned from itsPforPeas streams because I constantly made him use citron in eclise

[@ED-gw9rg]

Thank you for making this, really helps me appreciate it a bit more. Good reminder that twisting a carelessly designed set of hard-coded core mechanics into something neat is really hard work.

[@Zeldrake]

I started playing AltverZ after you reccomended it some time ago. Seamless install process, fantastic difficulty curve with straightforward early levels and viciously difficult Community Levels, and meaningful currencies to buy plants with. Genuinely had a lot of fun with it!

[@justsomerandomboi5390]

My first experience with pvz mods was eclise which i in fact did not like as I kinda felt forced to do specific strategies to win so i hope i dont run into this problem with altverz

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

Goodpea2 constantly pushing for S levels despite half of the community hating it for being extremely fixated in a select amount of plants and strategies. Hell, it took YEARS for him to actually make the plants available in shop for how many people decided to skip them and making the new S levels actually work with more strategies.

[@coldfireball6384]

​@Dumb Blob fr hearing this, I think it's genuinely just a skill issue

[@greenthewhite]

​@Dumb Blob 🧢

[@cadetjones9205]

@@greenthewhite Not Cap. Peashooters are op with the right support.

[@theinfinity2994]

I get that it gets a lot of hate but I've been enjoying it. Probably just cause I'm a casual. I am playing the easy mode

[@eggsnham.]

I tried altverz as my first pvz mod and I really liked it, and some of the harder levels felt just the right amount of hard for a more casual player like me to be able to *just* make it past

[@EVenture_XD]

This is great to hear! I'm a pvz 2 veteran and haven't touched the game since daisychain's release, because there really was nothing left for me to do anymore. Maybe this will be the mod to get me to play pvz 2 again! Thx for sharing 🎉

[@vholtninja2976]

Awesome! I've been wanting to get into a mod for ages but couldn't decide or figure out which one to do, thanks for this

[@Pēm̐cā]

hello bird brother

[@someguy8713]

I am currently playing through altverz, I used to play vanilla pvz2 a lot and I love the changes made so far, because I’m bored I’m just gonna list off ones I like. Also, I need to specify, I’ve done pretty much everything up to dark ages except WWEX-X and all of the extra far future levels. First of all, the dialogue is much better here, and the tutorial has new zombies surprisingly. I love the new placements for plants and premium plants on the world map, progression feels much more realistic when it comes to difficulty. I’m happy they made ae gravestones do something, even if ae necromancy is rare. Extra levels are almost always a joy to play and the finales of each world are great. I love how most plants have been reworked or changed in some way, it makes the game feel so fresh. I love how a lot of zombies are now huge threats, like poncho and jetpack aren’t just filler specials anymore. I love the new premium and coin systems. The amount of new zombies is crazy, because of videos like this, I’ve seen what new zombies there are to come. While I love most of the new levels, some are not so great, such as WWEX-IV, fuck this level. The difficulty really adds to the experience, and having a challenge makes it generally more fun then the base game. In general, this is basically vanilla pvz2 with some tweaks, changes, and additions making it much better overall, 9.5/10 lost .5 because of WWEX-IV specifically. Edit: 5 days later, I still love the mod, but im convinced most of these levels were not playtested, NMT-V, NMTX-V and FC-X are good examples.

[@greenrifleman2969]

Ah, Altverz. The perfect PvZ2 mod. Practically PvZ2 with the things I LOVE about PvZ1. Zombies don't come as quickly, giving you time to set up sun production early on. The plants are practically rebalanced around each other instead of some plants being more powerful but locked behind paywalls. I also found the gimmicks (such as the potions in dark ages), which I would normally hate in vanilla, actually kinda fun. Must play for any PvZ fan.

[@yamayayutraca]

If you really listen at 2:00 you can hear Creeps tryna not crack up at his own joke

[@The4DRY4N]

i've completed altverz as my first mod and gotta say, i hella loved it! 100% would recommend it

[@jeal5022]

Might I say that this is well written! Something that I actually listened and understood throughout the video.

[@thetarr2]

I burst into tears when Creeps20 said "This PV2 is better than the original! We must be in some sort of an Alternate UniverZ!" truly one of the videos of all time

[@Aeoliveo]

I creamed to the top of my lungs when i heard that

[@I6g9o5r1]

Holy shit the real pvz 2 just dropped

[@clash9087]

6:44 Game Theory's next video: Void Orchid is the Pale King?!

[@Trailbreaker3966]

This is a mod I just recently got into alongside Shuttle. And I must say I really enjoyed this mod. I’m just about to finish ancient Egypt but i absolutely love how this mod has reworked, new, and returning plants. The objectives are also so much fun… the only thing I don’t like is that the Zen garden is completely gone but at least they have a story for what happened to it.

[@MisterKazePresents]

6:30 Couldn't find anyone mentioning that in the comments but, despite how the "ch" sound may suggest, that isn't how you pronounce "orchid". Just a little thing for the future, in case you haven't already been told. Great video though. Very informative and thorough, as usual.

[@Arkal]

I started playing this after seeing the corn cult video, it is pretty challenging but it is a lot of fun

[@velky_reeds]

what I love about Reflourished is how it wants to keep that vanilla feel when you're playing it, the buffs and nerfs aren't necessarily overthought and the overall gameplay feels natural

[@seresyuro]

bro wrong video

[@major.bases1957]

Just tried AltVerz myself, and I highly recommend it. As much as I like vanilla PvZ2, the strategy aspect sort of died. This mod helps recapture that feeling in well designed levels.

[@artemiykopych]

To be honest, I'm not a fan of 25 sun meta, sometimes it would get too boring. But in general, yeah, Altverz got a lot of cool stuff in it.

[@pyro1830]

but 50 sun meta makes everything wayyy to easy

[@auniquehandle676]

@pyro1830 but 50 sun meta is more fun than the 25 sun meta

[@A6by]

As a series long PvZ fan in my thirties, thank you so much for really highlighting what makes AltverZ the best mod - it's close enough in speed to PvZ 1 that you don't need to be slamming ritalin to keep up with it, unlike most versions of PvZ 2. I just want to keep playing the series as an adult without worrying that my slower reflexes will ruin it for me, that's really it.

[@AceandBlast]

ah yes, the donut segment, had a lot of fun talking about donuts banger video btw

[@Possessed_Gamer]

Reflorshed Altverz Collab breathing intensity

[@jess648]

two legends collide

[@ThatOneTechy]

The Modding Community Is Amazing. 2 Very Great Mods are AltverZ and Refloruished (They so good they collabed!) AltverZ Is (Like pointed out in the video) Is Based On PvZ1, Slower yet more challenging gameplay. Reflourished However Is An Extension On the Main Game. Adding New Levels, Balancing the Plants But Keeping the PvZ2 Experience. Which One you play depends on if you like The Fast Gameplay of PvZ2 Or the Slower Gameplay Of PvZ1

[@КостяЗозуля-е3я]

Before seeing the name of the mod I guess that it's Altverz

[@TheG_Boy]

Thanks for making me aware this exists

[@zombee77777]

Altverz is literally bibbicly accurate pvz2

[@ThatOneTechy]

Fun Fact: Threepeater Is an Excellent Early game option in Wild West and any level with SHORT Minecart Tracks

[@Namchok]

I started playing AltverZ around Creeps' Pirate Seas stream and I'm glad I found it! I've been wanting to play PvZ2 for a long time, but dropped maybe due to premium stuff, so it's very nice to experience PvZ2 again and a completely new PvZ experience for me. Honestly, the only problem I had in this mod is some micro levels are very tough, that is probably just skill issue though.

[@justanothermook6348]

it feels so damn weird hearing creeps talk about pvz 1 with pvz 1 footage in the back

[@failedaustrianpainter745]

i started playing alternate univerz and now that im at wild west i feel alot better at the game

[@PrincessBouncyBall1714]

4:12 corn mentioned, praise be

[@satyaprakashbhavaraju3677]

0:46 Hard Mode and Brutal Mode: Want a more challenging experience with PvZ? Look no further

[@AlkalimanOG]

literally every mod ever

[@satyaprakashbhavaraju3677]

@@AlkalimanOG Yea, the difficulty is like through the roof on some of them. Literally, as some even have the extra Night Roof portion.

[@Kisune26]

Pvz 2 Legend EX

[@butter_0021]

I do hope you upload more stream highlights because I loved watching this game.

[@mkks4559]

4:10 No way, Kernelpult has the costume of the kernel cultists. /j

[@UlyssesK402]

I actually wound up convincing my mother to skip Vanilla PVZ 2 and go straight to AltverZ. I haven't found a reason to regret it. Genuinely, I believe that AltverZ is the sequel that the first game deserved, but never got. Not saying Vanilla is bad, I actually had fun with it in fact, but it just doesn't quite clear the bar for me.

[@pyro1830]

alterz is good but in my eyes its worse than the vanilla game due to the plants having insanely slow recharges in the mod youll be forced to constantly horde suns and not be allowed to spend them they completely removed leveling up which they could of just reworked instead and theres no satisfaction from completing a world since they removed the zombosses

[@UlyssesK402]

@@pyro1830 The slower recharge and "sun hoarding" aren't issues for me. The sun production, notably, which isn't busted. Then there's the plant leveling, which *could've* been reworked, but it doesn't really need to (and AltverZ already has Pro Plants). Lastly, I do feel satisfied from finishing a world, the same way I feel satisfied in the first game (with the added bonus of the awesome Zombotany tracks). At the end of the day though, I admit that this all comes down to personal preference, and I happen to prefer slower recharge and longer levels, akin to PVZ 1.

[@mydogghost]

⁠@@pyro1830vanilla is extremely flawed. The levels are also slower so it’s fine if it wasn’t then the mod would be way too easy.

[@destroything]

damn i really should've asked what the tune playing at 2:05 is but i guess nobody will answer anymore

[@AlkalimanOG]

egypt remix of the title theme exclusive to the mod

[@destroything]

@@AlkalimanOG oh thanks

[@henfryer]

Altverz is a really good mod. Shame a lot of the level design stresses me out too much

[@rov-0250]

First time trying a mod. Pretty good so far, although some levels can get kinda boring.

[@agentmanface6255]

The early levels are painful to play

[@rov-0250]

@@agentmanface6255 agree 100%.

[@mydogghost]

@@rov-0250they recently added new zombies to the early levels have you gotten the update

[@puppetfan4634]

You should rank every (or the most popular) PvZ 2 mods

[@lomeinpog]

Bro forgot to the Ohio mod in PvZ Heroes

[@shloobington]

i see a pvz community giga chad

[@엘렉트럼]

I still like eclise more. it is buggy, unfair, and feels incomplete, but I like the challenge and the tiering system, saving up 2000 sun for a single overpowered plant is fun for me.

[@norukamo]

same

[@TeiTheRat]

It's probably the hardest mod out there, and we all like a bit of pain, so yeah

[@377GhrHello]

Overpowered means too strong for its cost. If you are saving that much you may be using the word description

[@petrikhorr]

this basically explains why i like pvz1 mods more, but altverz is definitely the best pvz2 mod

[@Official.OMXNKILLA]

I'm glad itspforpea's pvz 2 mod is on this list

[@plushloler]

I trust your judgement, I should check it out

[@selk8389]

Why do the majority of the attacking plants in this mod have at least 3 times the cooldown they have in vanilla (15 secs in this mod vs 5 in vanilla)? This makes spamming Lightning Reed (one of the exceptions) seem like heaven on earth in comparison but Lightning Reed isn't the answer to everything and I do want to use my sun instead of hoarding it, waiting for cooldowns.

[@mydogghost]

Cause the gameplay is slower.

[@ghost-knighthd7704]

The best thing is that you get every plant f2p, instead of paying like in the real pvz2

[@B.L.U.S]

I hope i can thurst you on the quality of this mod ,eclise left a sour taste in my mouth

[@hexar260]

What.

[@B.L.U.S]

@@hexar260 my phone """auto corrected"""' eclise into because

[@helper_bot]

what happened to the GT000 and eclise

[@B.L.U.S]

@@helper_bot gt idc but eclise has an abnormal difficulty curv and has an too expensive tiering system without giving you a way to get money fast so it ends up being a grind to get to tier plants

[@B.L.U.S]

@@helper_bot and after i played altverz i am pleasently surprised, the game plays like pvz2 but done right, it's not difficult at the start it slowly builds up, and it has the endless zones that drop extra coins but like a lot extra and the doesn't even have much to use money for i just play these endless to see how far I go and when a finish i dump everthing i got into hats for my plants

[@dolthhaven8564]

blink twice if poss is holding you hostage

[@hexar260]

He blinked. But only in bursts of 1 so. Prolly not

[@volly9387]

One thing I liked about Alterverz is somehow Dave and Penny dialogue?? Like they somehow made little cutscenes before the level so much more fun than original I have no idea why!!

[@IAARPOTI]

Btw don't plant too many power vine. It's hurting my ears and my brains a lot. If devs lower the volume I will play it again.

[@hexar260]

Then don't use it. It's a B tier gauntlet plant.

[@underplague6344]

PvZ🤝tf2 -> being carried by modders

[@Amario_]

sadly extremely true

[@olgabatsak9869]

My tip: If you bring an early game plant that costs more than 100 sun, you can win any level. You need only expensive plants for early game. This competely prevents you from losing.

[@Smiley_404]

That's the biggest cap of all time

[@olgabatsak9869]

And imagine using a very expensive plant if front of an All-Star Zombie.

[@Smiley_404]

​@@olgabatsak9869just put sunflowers in the front

[@christianboi7690]

I didn’t have internet as a kid and plants vs zombies 2 was really fun to play in the car or when messing around by myself back then. A few updates later and all of my progress was deleted, but I had already beaten most of the game, so I didn’t mind that much starting over and seeing what they changed. Things started to feel more linear and harder and then one more update and they added levels and I basically just quit. I gave it another chance recently and the add spam drove me away. I was playing endless mode and I got an ad in between each level and then after I watched an add I clicked exit from the challenge and it immediately made me watch another ad. I gave up and I don’t think I want to touch that game anymore. If it still supports offline mode, maybe I’ll do that, but I think I only want to experience it through mods now.

[@mydogghost]

Blue stacks is needed or any android emulator

[@butter0989]

This video got me to download Altverz entirely because it told me I was able to get it on Android devices, not just on PC emulator stuff, so I got the mod and now I am committed to calling it the ACTUAL sequel to the original Plants Vs Zombies.

[@RozeLight]

Me, and Apple user: *Sad apple noises* my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[@Da.Liar-Pig]

Remember in the old version of vanilla pvz 2 the suns you earn is 25 just like in the first game If i remember from the old gameplays

[@denilsonzaslavski1989]

It's curious that in the recent days I've playing PVZ rather than PVZ2, I wanted to play again after a couple of years i miss the old days coming from school and just play those popular games in 2010

[@D1ne-O-SAur]

Amazing. Yet again he's not failed to give us the creeps...

[@glydizagzakk]

So are we not gonna talk about his coins

[@15_heidune72]

How dare you bring back memories of Mummy Memory! ...I couldn't defeat it as a 7 year old.

[@shinhikaru]

Altverz and Reflourished are currently the best PvZ 2 mods out there. They are an improvement to Vanilla PvZ 2 and they are friendly to literally every players. Unlike Eclise which is trying too hard to be difficult and is also somehow more unbalanced than Vanilla PvZ 2, like some tier 3 plants is just unusable.

[@BlastBlixer]

Ok so the reduced value of sundrops scares me because I abuse the hell out of mags (magnifying grass)

[@Smiley_404]

But now it's only 25 sun to use it.

[@TheMaskedAleyna]

Worst mod ever it started the corn cult/j

[@butter_0021]

Corn-a-cult

[@ironwill2]

So true

[@mememan1102]

HOW DARE YOU SAY SUCH THINGS ABOUT THE *KERNAL CULT* YOU MEAR MORTAL (this is a joke btw)

[@3twibles4sweetrevenge]

​@@ironwill2 the corn cult killed my grandma, okay!!!?

[@a2izzard]

​@@3twibles4sweetrevengeWhat corn was she eating?

[@Geometricofficial]

WHAT NEW VIDEO NO WAAAY i survived

[@AKitchell]

I've played this myself, and I wish there was more bosses.

[@xsinam]

6:45 hornet is not void joke

[@gdmalin7128]

I love this mod but nothing will beat the (now unavailable) eclise 1.8 experience

[@Luminous_1700]

Very nice hollow knight reference, lol

[@phorchybug3286]

I try to download mods and my iPad is like "dude, you trying to kill me?"

[@hexar260]

That's cause it's a ipad.

[@Gyokko_Fan]

This may sound stupid, but I wanted to be sure, I play PVZ2 Reflourished, and even then I struggle at a certain point, Is really worthy like having two different mods of PVZ2? And if I'm just not that good in the game, Would it still be as enjoyable an experience as a lot of people portray it?

[@Smiley_404]

If you use power ups, level your plants to high levels (any level above 3 is high) and still find the vanilla game challenging, mods are not for you, however if you don't, i recommend you finish a mod before playing another one.

[@mydogghost]

I mean you do whatever you want

[@grahamstockton3796]

the premium plants are free? if thay are im getting it i want to test them

[@LiterallyStuart]

Haven’t fully watched the video. I’ve played a bit of eclise, I came back after a couple years to hear that it went downhill which is sad. I really did enjoy the tier system and thought it was fun.

[@karbachok]

I wonder if you could beat it with Bloomerang

[@bloonbrawler9872]

Try it

[@karbachok]

Well, I actually did

[@bloonbrawler9872]

@@karbachok how did it go?

[@karbachok]

I did it. It was hard and took a long time, but it is possible. Well... It was possible before the newer version where they banned Gumnut from that one Dark Ages level

[@bloonbrawler9872]

@@karbachok Good job non the less

[@TheMartianGeek]

I wonder why they numbered the levels with Roman numerals? It's weird.

[@TheRageBaiter]

I want a full video essay on this mod

[@mistercue]

nice vid

[@whattwaht]

The video started right after the cheesy joke I was so confused

[@stove6632]

Im losing my mind i popped off when the kernel polt png showed up

[@bartoszzimny1903]

what about reflourished

[@luiscoelho77]

He just don't like it enough. It's say isn't a bad mod but isn't his cup of tea. Opinions we all have and we should respect that.

[@twovin807]

altrozer

[@ItsPForPea]

altrozer

[@Creeps20]

altrozer

[@enticalmintz2447]

altrozer

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

altrozer

[@GrimDande]

altrozer

[@averagemicrosoftpaintenjoy7115]

this is a very long way to say they balanced peanut

[@ishuikamakura272]

If the AltverZ devs are here, just a question "Are there new worlds in this mod?"

[@LorLgp]

(I'm not a dev) A brand new world will be added in 2025: Crimson Front, a war themed world

[@yoshicrafter7608]

are you a hk fan? ive heard dat sountrack in ur vids many times

[@munchkinmike4722]

Just started getting back into pvz through youtube recs, wanted to try pvz 2 again after so long but I cant get my old account and dont want to restart cause how downhill the game went, currently installing this mod cause of your video lol.

[@mydogghost]

Did you have fun? Cause I am

[@DiZiStiTch]

That was the cheesiest intro of all time I love it

[@cooper249]

How can you get plants vs zombies 2 alterverz on a mobile iPhone

[@AlkalimanOG]

You can't

[@rishiy6183]

Lmao rip bozo😂

[@rypio300]

10:02 bruh

[@Jar3xe]

ALTROZ MOMENTS Get that Pat!

[@KamronAbd-b6o]

How to download this mod

[@gazeffmhu2374]

honestly only reason i wanna use mods is bc of those dam premium plants, if everysingle one was seedium/gemium i would not need mods

[@soniccraft4237]

i just got 20 gauntlets what plant should i buy ? xD

[@akirapink]

i kind of prefer the faster pace for a mobile game and i already struggled with vanilla's difficulty but i do still want to try out mods of this game! does anyone have any recommendations?

[@Pokeball35]

Try Reflourished! It’s all of vanilla’s content + over 200 new levels in the style of PVZ2 vanilla pacing, but a little bit slower so it’s not too quick but not too slow. At the moment it’s my favorite mod to play.

[@akirapink]

@@Pokeball35 yeah, i tried reflourished and got all the way to modern day! but...i still found it really hard and not that fun

[@wakemeupinside8627]

Will having reflourished downloaded affect downloading the game at all?

[@AlkalimanOG]

no cuz different file names

[@17_Ashes]

is every single level redisined or are some levels recycled

[@mitkodimitrov6663]

Everything is redesigned

[@MainChannel9521]

You should make a video for each pvz mod

[@arifrulz]

as a player that does veteran rules, i certify this video