The best (in my opinion) PVZ mod

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

The best thing about Alterverz, Nightcast and Reflourished is the fact that, unlike eclise, is actually improving each new version instead of making it worse.

[@Stirling96]

True

[@piotrm5635]

yes eclise is TRASH

[@k1baede728]

Do y'all ever get bored of slandering the same thing over and over lmao

[@Stirling96]

@@k1baede728 No.

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

@@k1baede728 any mod deliberately locking tiering of certain plants for future updates in hopes of keeping players long enough for the patreon to grow is a bad mod in my eyes. Older versions were better.

[@_Whyro_]

The only thing odd about this mod is the art in my opinion. Most exclusive zombies doesn't really capture the pvz2 artstyle except for the chili bean event zombies.

[@ItsPForPea]

More feedbacks would be nice! The AltverZ team has a lot of artists and they'll be grateful if you can point out the problems you find with the arts in detail!

[@_Whyro_]

@@ItsPForPea Some of the zombies have really thin outlines and too much detail on them, this doesnt make the art bad in any way just looks really different from the pvz2 artstyle. If I have to give an example the armor for the webhead zombie or a summer ra zombie would be good examples to this. In the other hand the the reanimator zombies redesigned look fixes all thoose problems I mentioned over his old design. And like I said the chili event zombies and specially the magician zombie looks straight out of the vanilla game.

[@ygor_eeu]

@@_Whyro_ Thanks a lot for your feedback. We try to stay faith to the vanilla artstyle but also putting our own "twist" to it. But we will try to improve it.

[@_Whyro_]

@@ygor_eeu No problem at all. Like I said the art is not bad or anything it just looks really strange around other assets from the game. Keep up the good work!

[@LunuticsPvZ]

Me when all the examples are my art 😦

[@justsomerandomboi5390]

Well after missing literally every one of your streams on this game i cant do anything other than play this. Youve got my attention.

[@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370]

didnt think I would find a person with an angry birds evolution bird as their pfp but here we are

[@justsomerandomboi5390]

@@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370 it looks incredibly funny to me idk why

[@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370]

@@justsomerandomboi5390 do you play the game or did you just randomly find that picture?

[@justsomerandomboi5390]

@@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370 used to

[@apersonwhoisbadatmakinguse2370]

@@justsomerandomboi5390 ok. btw fun fact I almost go banned from itsPforPeas streams because I constantly made him use citron in eclise

[@trashley5972]

Played through everything this mod has to offer (minus some community levels) and this is so damn fun. Like you said its a great middleground mix of 1 and 2 and the level design is so damn fun (except for that one nmt level that does fill a horizontal row with plants and dont lose to many)

[@TheReal716]

All the plants are unlockable right? (I mean the ones that need payment in the og pvz 2 game)

[@trashley5972]

@@TheReal716 not every vanilla plant (there are far too many for a balanced mod to deal with) but there are still a wide variety of plants in the mod with more coming soon in the bwb update

[@butter0989]

Really the NMT level that suck is the point score one because point objectives suck

[@sss1851]

minus? minus8?

[@idkmyname5893]

​@@trashley5972Thank god man, I was really looking for a mod that has all plants unlocked but the ones I found gave like infinite gems, coins, suns and all plants are at Max mastery to the point where it just ruins the experience and takes out all the fun from the game.

[@justsomerandomboi5390]

My first experience with pvz mods was eclise which i in fact did not like as I kinda felt forced to do specific strategies to win so i hope i dont run into this problem with altverz

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

Goodpea2 constantly pushing for S levels despite half of the community hating it for being extremely fixated in a select amount of plants and strategies. Hell, it took YEARS for him to actually make the plants available in shop for how many people decided to skip them and making the new S levels actually work with more strategies.

[@coldfireball6384]

​@Dumb Blob fr hearing this, I think it's genuinely just a skill issue

[@greenthewhite]

​@Dumb Blob 🧢

[@cadetjones9205]

@@greenthewhite Not Cap. Peashooters are op with the right support.

[@theinfinity2994]

I get that it gets a lot of hate but I've been enjoying it. Probably just cause I'm a casual. I am playing the easy mode

[@ED-gw9rg]

Thank you for making this, really helps me appreciate it a bit more. Good reminder that twisting a carelessly designed set of hard-coded core mechanics into something neat is really hard work.

[@vholtninja2976]

Awesome! I've been wanting to get into a mod for ages but couldn't decide or figure out which one to do, thanks for this

[@Pēm̐cā]

hello bird brother

[@eggsnham.]

I tried altverz as my first pvz mod and I really liked it, and some of the harder levels felt just the right amount of hard for a more casual player like me to be able to *just* make it past

[@thetarr2]

I burst into tears when Creeps20 said "This PV2 is better than the original! We must be in some sort of an Alternate UniverZ!" truly one of the videos of all time

[@Aeoliveo]

I creamed to the top of my lungs when i heard that

[@someguy8713]

I am currently playing through altverz, I used to play vanilla pvz2 a lot and I love the changes made so far, because I’m bored I’m just gonna list off ones I like. Also, I need to specify, I’ve done pretty much everything up to dark ages except WWEX-X and all of the extra far future levels. First of all, the dialogue is much better here, and the tutorial has new zombies surprisingly. I love the new placements for plants and premium plants on the world map, progression feels much more realistic when it comes to difficulty. I’m happy they made ae gravestones do something, even if ae necromancy is rare. Extra levels are almost always a joy to play and the finales of each world are great. I love how most plants have been reworked or changed in some way, it makes the game feel so fresh. I love how a lot of zombies are now huge threats, like poncho and jetpack aren’t just filler specials anymore. I love the new premium and coin systems. The amount of new zombies is crazy, because of videos like this, I’ve seen what new zombies there are to come. While I love most of the new levels, some are not so great, such as WWEX-IV, fuck this level. The difficulty really adds to the experience, and having a challenge makes it generally more fun then the base game. In general, this is basically vanilla pvz2 with some tweaks, changes, and additions making it much better overall, 9.5/10 lost .5 because of WWEX-IV specifically. Edit: 5 days later, I still love the mod, but im convinced most of these levels were not playtested, NMT-V, NMTX-V and FC-X are good examples.

[@The4DRY4N]

i've completed altverz as my first mod and gotta say, i hella loved it! 100% would recommend it

[@velky_reeds]

what I love about Reflourished is how it wants to keep that vanilla feel when you're playing it, the buffs and nerfs aren't necessarily overthought and the overall gameplay feels natural

[@seresyuro]

bro wrong video

[@I6g9o5r1]

Holy shit the real pvz 2 just dropped

[@ThatOneTechy]

The Modding Community Is Amazing. 2 Very Great Mods are AltverZ and Refloruished (They so good they collabed!) AltverZ Is (Like pointed out in the video) Is Based On PvZ1, Slower yet more challenging gameplay. Reflourished However Is An Extension On the Main Game. Adding New Levels, Balancing the Plants But Keeping the PvZ2 Experience. Which One you play depends on if you like The Fast Gameplay of PvZ2 Or the Slower Gameplay Of PvZ1

[@artemiykopych]

To be honest, I'm not a fan of 25 sun meta, sometimes it would get too boring. But in general, yeah, Altverz got a lot of cool stuff in it.

[@pyro1830]

but 50 sun meta makes everything wayyy to easy

[@clash9087]

6:44 Game Theory's next video: Void Orchid is the Pale King?!

[@Possessed_Gamer]

Reflorshed Altverz Collab breathing intensity

[@jess648]

two legends collide

[@jeal5022]

Might I say that this is well written! Something that I actually listened and understood throughout the video.

[@AceandBlast]

ah yes, the donut segment, had a lot of fun talking about donuts banger video btw

[@Arkal]

I started playing this after seeing the corn cult video, it is pretty challenging but it is a lot of fun

[@greenrifleman2969]

Ah, Altverz. The perfect PvZ2 mod. Practically PvZ2 with the things I LOVE about PvZ1. Zombies don't come as quickly, giving you time to set up sun production early on. The plants are practically rebalanced around each other instead of some plants being more powerful but locked behind paywalls. I also found the gimmicks (such as the potions in dark ages), which I would normally hate in vanilla, actually kinda fun. Must play for any PvZ fan.

[@UlyssesK402]

I actually wound up convincing my mother to skip Vanilla PVZ 2 and go straight to AltverZ. I haven't found a reason to regret it. Genuinely, I believe that AltverZ is the sequel that the first game deserved, but never got. Not saying Vanilla is bad, I actually had fun with it in fact, but it just doesn't quite clear the bar for me.

[@pyro1830]

alterz is good but in my eyes its worse than the vanilla game due to the plants having insanely slow recharges in the mod youll be forced to constantly horde suns and not be allowed to spend them they completely removed leveling up which they could of just reworked instead and theres no satisfaction from completing a world since they removed the zombosses

[@UlyssesK402]

@@pyro1830 The slower recharge and "sun hoarding" aren't issues for me. The sun production, notably, which isn't busted. Then there's the plant leveling, which *could've* been reworked, but it doesn't really need to (and AltverZ already has Pro Plants). Lastly, I do feel satisfied from finishing a world, the same way I feel satisfied in the first game (with the added bonus of the awesome Zombotany tracks). At the end of the day though, I admit that this all comes down to personal preference, and I happen to prefer slower recharge and longer levels, akin to PVZ 1.

[@mydogghost]

⁠@@pyro1830vanilla is extremely flawed. The levels are also slower so it’s fine if it wasn’t then the mod would be way too easy.

[@major.bases1957]

Just tried AltVerz myself, and I highly recommend it. As much as I like vanilla PvZ2, the strategy aspect sort of died. This mod helps recapture that feeling in well designed levels.

[@underplague6344]

PvZ🤝tf2 -> being carried by modders

[@Amario_]

sadly extremely true

[@failedaustrianpainter745]

i started playing alternate univerz and now that im at wild west i feel alot better at the game

[@Namchok]

I started playing AltverZ around Creeps' Pirate Seas stream and I'm glad I found it! I've been wanting to play PvZ2 for a long time, but dropped maybe due to premium stuff, so it's very nice to experience PvZ2 again and a completely new PvZ experience for me. Honestly, the only problem I had in this mod is some micro levels are very tough, that is probably just skill issue though.

[@rov-0250]

First time trying a mod. Pretty good so far, although some levels can get kinda boring.

[@agentmanface6255]

The early levels are painful to play

[@rov-0250]

@@agentmanface6255 agree 100%.

[@mydogghost]

@@rov-0250they recently added new zombies to the early levels have you gotten the update

[@TheG_Boy]

Thanks for making me aware this exists

[@MisterKazePresents]

6:30 Couldn't find anyone mentioning that in the comments but, despite how the "ch" sound may suggest, that isn't how you pronounce "orchid". Just a little thing for the future, in case you haven't already been told. Great video though. Very informative and thorough, as usual.

[@КостяЗозуля-е3я]

Before seeing the name of the mod I guess that it's Altverz

[@justanothermook6348]

it feels so damn weird hearing creeps talk about pvz 1 with pvz 1 footage in the back

[@ghost-knighthd7704]

The best thing is that you get every plant f2p, instead of paying like in the real pvz2

[@satyaprakashbhavaraju3677]

0:46 Hard Mode and Brutal Mode: Want a more challenging experience with PvZ? Look no further

[@AlkalimanOG]

literally every mod ever

[@satyaprakashbhavaraju3677]

@@AlkalimanOG Yea, the difficulty is like through the roof on some of them. Literally, as some even have the extra Night Roof portion.

[@henfryer]

Altverz is a really good mod. Shame a lot of the level design stresses me out too much

[@엘렉트럼]

I still like eclise more. it is buggy, unfair, and feels incomplete, but I like the challenge and the tiering system, saving up 2000 sun for a single overpowered plant is fun for me.

[@norukamo]

same

[@TeiTheRat]

It's probably the hardest mod out there, and we all like a bit of pain, so yeah

[@377GhrHello]

Overpowered means too strong for its cost. If you are saving that much you may be using the word description

[@lomeinpog]

Bro forgot to the Ohio mod in PvZ Heroes

[@shloobington]

i see a pvz community giga chad

[@butter0989]

This video got me to download Altverz entirely because it told me I was able to get it on Android devices, not just on PC emulator stuff, so I got the mod and now I am committed to calling it the ACTUAL sequel to the original Plants Vs Zombies.

[@puppetfan4634]

You should rank every (or the most popular) PvZ 2 mods

[@mkks4559]

4:10 No way, Kernelpult has the costume of the kernel cultists. /j

[@dolthhaven8564]

blink twice if poss is holding you hostage

[@hexar260]

He blinked. But only in bursts of 1 so. Prolly not

[@RozeLight]

Me, and Apple user: *Sad apple noises* my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[@petrikhorr]

this basically explains why i like pvz1 mods more, but altverz is definitely the best pvz2 mod

[@butter_0021]

I do hope you upload more stream highlights because I loved watching this game.

[@olgabatsak9869]

My tip: If you bring an early game plant that costs more than 100 sun, you can win any level. You need only expensive plants for early game. This competely prevents you from losing.

[@Smiley_404]

That's the biggest cap of all time

[@olgabatsak9869]

And imagine using a very expensive plant if front of an All-Star Zombie.

[@Smiley_404]

​@@olgabatsak9869just put sunflowers in the front

[@B.L.U.S]

I hope i can thurst you on the quality of this mod ,eclise left a sour taste in my mouth

[@hexar260]

What.

[@B.L.U.S]

@@hexar260 my phone """auto corrected"""' eclise into because

[@helper_bot]

what happened to the GT000 and eclise

[@B.L.U.S]

@@helper_bot gt idc but eclise has an abnormal difficulty curv and has an too expensive tiering system without giving you a way to get money fast so it ends up being a grind to get to tier plants

[@B.L.U.S]

@@helper_bot and after i played altverz i am pleasently surprised, the game plays like pvz2 but done right, it's not difficult at the start it slowly builds up, and it has the endless zones that drop extra coins but like a lot extra and the doesn't even have much to use money for i just play these endless to see how far I go and when a finish i dump everthing i got into hats for my plants

[@shinhikaru]

Altverz and Reflourished are currently the best PvZ 2 mods out there. They are an improvement to Vanilla PvZ 2 and they are friendly to literally every players. Unlike Eclise which is trying too hard to be difficult and is also somehow more unbalanced than Vanilla PvZ 2, like some tier 3 plants is just unusable.

[@PrincessBouncyBall1714]

4:12 corn mentioned, praise be

[@twovin807]

altrozer

[@ItsPForPea]

altrozer

[@Creeps20]

altrozer

[@enticalmintz2447]

altrozer

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

altrozer

[@GrimDande]

altrozer

[@TheMaskedAleyna]

Worst mod ever it started the corn cult/j

[@butter_0021]

Corn-a-cult

[@ironwill2]

So true

[@mememan1102]

HOW DARE YOU SAY SUCH THINGS ABOUT THE *KERNAL CULT* YOU MEAR MORTAL (this is a joke btw)

[@3twibles4sweetrevenge]

​@@ironwill2 the corn cult killed my grandma, okay!!!?

[@a2izzard]

​@@3twibles4sweetrevengeWhat corn was she eating?

[@glydizagzakk]

So are we not gonna talk about his coins

[@selk8389]

Why do the majority of the attacking plants in this mod have at least 3 times the cooldown they have in vanilla (15 secs in this mod vs 5 in vanilla)? This makes spamming Lightning Reed (one of the exceptions) seem like heaven on earth in comparison but Lightning Reed isn't the answer to everything and I do want to use my sun instead of hoarding it, waiting for cooldowns.

[@mydogghost]

Cause the gameplay is slower.

[@ItsMeHernandez]

4:07 *Heavy breathing* KERNEL PULLLLLLT

[@plushloler]

I trust your judgement, I should check it out

[@Da.Liar-Pig]

Remember in the old version of vanilla pvz 2 the suns you earn is 25 just like in the first game If i remember from the old gameplays

[@denilsonzaslavski1989]

It's curious that in the recent days I've playing PVZ rather than PVZ2, I wanted to play again after a couple of years i miss the old days coming from school and just play those popular games in 2010

[@christianboi7690]

I didn’t have internet as a kid and plants vs zombies 2 was really fun to play in the car or when messing around by myself back then. A few updates later and all of my progress was deleted, but I had already beaten most of the game, so I didn’t mind that much starting over and seeing what they changed. Things started to feel more linear and harder and then one more update and they added levels and I basically just quit. I gave it another chance recently and the add spam drove me away. I was playing endless mode and I got an ad in between each level and then after I watched an add I clicked exit from the challenge and it immediately made me watch another ad. I gave up and I don’t think I want to touch that game anymore. If it still supports offline mode, maybe I’ll do that, but I think I only want to experience it through mods now.

[@mydogghost]

Blue stacks is needed or any android emulator

[@BlastBlixer]

Ok so the reduced value of sundrops scares me because I abuse the hell out of mags (magnifying grass)

[@Smiley_404]

But now it's only 25 sun to use it.

[@D1ne-O-SAur]

Amazing. Yet again he's not failed to give us the creeps...

[@destroything]

damn i really should've asked what the tune playing at 2:05 is but i guess nobody will answer anymore

[@AlkalimanOG]

egypt remix of the title theme exclusive to the mod

[@destroything]

@@AlkalimanOG oh thanks

[@gdmalin7128]

I love this mod but nothing will beat the (now unavailable) eclise 1.8 experience

[@IAARPOTI]

Btw don't plant too many power vine. It's hurting my ears and my brains a lot. If devs lower the volume I will play it again.

[@hexar260]

Then don't use it. It's a B tier gauntlet plant.

[@15_heidune72]

How dare you bring back memories of Mummy Memory! ...I couldn't defeat it as a 7 year old.

[@TheMartianGeek]

I wonder why they numbered the levels with Roman numerals? It's weird.

[@MrbaldRevell]

Charm

[@emperorpalps7004]

The main problem with altverz for me is that like 99% of the plants you unlock are the same you would unlock in a vanilla pvz world

[@trashley5972]

Thats kinda the point honestly. The mods not really trying to reinvent the wheel, its just trying to smooth out the one you already have (also premiums are easy to get so the monotony of it can fade if you mess around)

[@emperorpalps7004]

@@trashley5972 i like the mod but I Just played vanilla so many times that the vanilla plants feel kinda boring

[@scotterboi9]

@@emperorpalps7004 The major issue for me is that I've played so many mods that everything just feels like white noise to me - playing through the same 11 worlds eventually gets boring

[@jdg6192]

@@emperorpalps7004 then go play eclise if you don't want the vanilla plant rosters in each world

[@emperorpalps7004]

@@jdg6192 i played eclise. it's fun but some levels are just complete bullshit (i was playing on 1.9)

[@averagemicrosoftpaintenjoy7115]

this is a very long way to say they balanced peanut

[@xsinam]

6:45 hornet is not void joke

[@Gyokko_Fan]

This may sound stupid, but I wanted to be sure, I play PVZ2 Reflourished, and even then I struggle at a certain point, Is really worthy like having two different mods of PVZ2? And if I'm just not that good in the game, Would it still be as enjoyable an experience as a lot of people portray it?

[@Smiley_404]

If you use power ups, level your plants to high levels (any level above 3 is high) and still find the vanilla game challenging, mods are not for you, however if you don't, i recommend you finish a mod before playing another one.

[@mydogghost]

I mean you do whatever you want

[@gazeffmhu2374]

honestly only reason i wanna use mods is bc of those dam premium plants, if everysingle one was seedium/gemium i would not need mods

[@karbachok]

I wonder if you could beat it with Bloomerang

[@bloonbrawler9872]

Try it

[@karbachok]

Well, I actually did

[@bloonbrawler9872]

@@karbachok how did it go?

[@karbachok]

I did it. It was hard and took a long time, but it is possible. Well... It was possible before the newer version where they banned Gumnut from that one Dark Ages level

[@bloonbrawler9872]

@@karbachok Good job non the less

[@17_Ashes]

is every single level redisined or are some levels recycled

[@mitkodimitrov6663]

Everything is redesigned

[@Jar3xe]

ALTROZ MOMENTS Get that Pat!

[@DiZiStiTch]

That was the cheesiest intro of all time I love it

[@KraylebStudios]

Hey guys have you ever heard of the mod ECLISE, it's a PvZ 2 mod that makes the game more like PvZ 1, and Is superior to PvZ 2 in every way. There are no microtransactions and... that's about it

[@TeiTheRat]

nah eclise isn't like pvz1, if u want a mod more like pvz1 go play altverz Eclise isnt really similar to pvz1 or 2, the levels have its own style. It's mostly meant to make the game a lot harder, but it often gets repetitive

[@KraylebStudios]

@@TeiTheRat I was being sarcastic

[@bartoszzimny1903]

what about reflourished

[@luiscoelho77]

He just don't like it enough. It's say isn't a bad mod but isn't his cup of tea. Opinions we all have and we should respect that.

[@phorchybug3286]

I try to download mods and my iPad is like "dude, you trying to kill me?"

[@hexar260]

That's cause it's a ipad.

[@Geometricofficial]

WHAT NEW VIDEO NO WAAAY i survived

[@brinefilopolski33]

Seed saver? More like seed spamer

[@ryelo5448]

Based shotgun peanut

[@melvint-p9500]

eclise moment😟

[@ryelo5448]

@@melvint-p9500 im sorry that shotgun peanut is objectively better then vanilla peanut

[@Crowbar1225]

I wish that they brought the mints back. Like the idea would be that mints aren't an uncommon currency, and you can get the power mints, all for 50 mints instead. How about it?

[@yoshicrafter7608]

are you a hk fan? ive heard dat sountrack in ur vids many times

[@mistercue]

nice vid

[@babbygremlin]

this look like another one of those 'best thing ever' mods for PVZ2 like eclise that people will wake up about in 6 months

[@AlkalimanOG]

applies more to reflourished given how it blew up in popularity

[@elfbeaned]

​@@VOID............ but he doesn't hack your accounts or want you to be hacked, but you....

[@Stirling96]

Reflourished still in my opinion is the bes mod, so good that it should have been the PvZ2 we had instead the one we have now.

[@oak3ns]

I FORGOT ABOUT MUMMY MEMORY HOLY CRAP DUDE

[@offlinelavendr2596]

IS THIS MOSSBAG THE HOLLOW KNIGHT KZbinR?! 1?! 1??? 1!? 1?

[@MainChannel9521]

You should make a video for each pvz mod

[@squidtilus0.400]

Good job.

[@realpvzdamemes]

*me omw to type stard-*

[@clouddaemon4828]

can someone eli5 why eclise is frowned upon?

[@AlkalimanOG]

eclise suffers from really cheap difficulty and its creator is a massive drama magnet.

[@taylamon]

I have NO idea why Ios devices are like this. I get that they’re trying to prevent Mac users from getting viruses, but this is too much. Most of the time (I would say around 60% of downloadable viruses) its the users fault for even downloading the virus. They do this same crap with .exe files. If you don’t know how to use Wine (or don’t know about it) you’re kinda screwed.

[@beetal3850]

Fr I got a Mac but I downloaded windows on it cause everything is Exe atp.

[@apdroidgeek1737]

i think pvz 1 being easy is what made it a good game. Its chill and relaxing. Pvz2 failed cuz its too hard and the levels are too fast, its no longer relaxing instead its stressful

[@agentmanface6255]

Pvz2 didn’t fail lmao

[@Smiley_404]

It didn't fail because of that, that might be one of the reasons it personally failed for you. Pvz 2 was made for a different kind of players.

[@Smiley_404]

@harrishromero6447 every tower defense is a relaxing game except the tryhard ones, building a full strong defense is the most satisfying thing ever.

[@Smiley_404]

@harrishromero6447 a strategy isn't a difficulty standard, tic tac toe and chess are both strategy games but one is extremely complex and the other was already completely solved.

[@Smiley_404]

@harrishromero6447 exactly, thanks for agreeing with me, pvz 1 is designed for casual players and pvz 2 is designed for more experienced players.

[@fusion4460]

the ONLY reason why i think you shouldn't consider this video: this guy worked on the mod

[@posstwo]

Creeps' only contributions are a single community level and some beta testing in earlier days of the mod. He hasn't played it in a while before his streams so it's fair from him to give an opinion like this.

[@BobbyCarHater]

This mod isnt even completed. Any other recommendations...?

[@AlkalimanOG]

no mod (outside of old level packs) are completed

[@leiuwu3965]

The existing content in this mod is still perfectly playable and just treat it as a live service game that get updates

[@MrbaldRevell]

They just added the dino world and it is fantastic

[@soniccraft4237]

i just got 20 gauntlets what plant should i buy ? xD

[@Nathen_12]

Why everyone hates pvz eclise?

[@AlkalimanOG]

unfairly difficult, extremely toxic dev

[@Hizelly76]

not extremely toxic, just plain out racist lol

[@dolthhaven8564]

@@AlkalimanOG skill issue

[@elfbeaned]

​@@AlkalimanOG what is unfair? We aren't the child, talk with proof.

[@hexar260]

The developer? Racist dude with a addiction power trips. The game? Updates make the game worse and trash difficulty spikes.

[@electrowarrior_pvz2]

How did they make their own pvz2 mod?

[@mydogghost]

I mean it probably isn’t super hard to get into the files

[@enticalmintz2447]

creeps how much did poss pay you...................... (/j)

[@Creeps20]

exposure

[@hexar260]

What's the exchange rate for exposure in Euro?

[@derekmundo6084]

AGREE

[@RinkuBhatia738]

Alvertz or Refurnished SOMEONE PLS ANSWER!!!

[@randomgapper]

Both :p

[@randomgapper]

But AltverZ Betr

[@hexar260]

Alternate univer

[@taktika4764]

Eclise

[@jackawesomeness4205]

Do mods reset my game? I've been working on it for a couple of years now and I don't want to lose my progress

[@Hizelly76]

It's a seperate app.

[@jackawesomeness4205]

@@Hizelly76 thanks for telling me there have been so many mods I wanted to play but I got scared and didn't play them.