The best MP5 Clone yet: The MAC 5!

[@jwmeitzler2671]

Have your gunsmith check the bolt gap on your MAC 5. I am a FFL and gunsmith and just purchased one of these to evaluate and found that the one I have has no bolt gap at all. HK specs are .25mm to .45mm which is .010 to .018 inches, With no bolt gap at all means that the rollers are not engaging in the recesses of the trunnion and therefore what you will have is almost a direct blow back firearm. This will cause undo wear on the firearm and shorten it's life. This is not good. I urge all of you that have purchased one of these MAC 5s to check the bolt gap on your firearm.

[@ImlikeHIGHHH]

That’s why HK commands the price they want. Just save up for a legit SP5 instead of the knock off ones.

[@Bryan-yq9pz]

Thank You for the information.

[@knight9145]

@@ImlikeHIGHHHmy AP5 and AP5P have both been in spec. Actually, my AP5 is build closer to the MP5 than the SP5. Just review the specs.

[@cnctactical]

I can confirm this and my MAC 5 has no bolt gap

[@Whitefeather1966]

I laughed when someone says their product is great until an expert comes along and pops their balloon!! Thank you!

[@_SKDK_]

I love it. MAC gets them through SDS imports, but I believe Mertsav, who is a subcontractor of MKE, is the manufacturer. So essentially the old zeniths, or current century arms package (hence why they share the same handguard, muzzle device, sling) but at a more affordable price. If you've been on the fence, this is probably as good as its gonna get. It beats out the ap5 core package sold by Atlantic Firearms while offering all the non-core items (aside from the brace) AND you get more mags. The mags alone make the deal for me and that's coming from someone with an AP5 and an SP5k. Had I known these were coming id have gotten it over the ap5

[@nikothevirgo]

I own an ap5 myself and been on the fence about the mac. Another mp5 wouldn't hurt?

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

@@nikothevirgolet us know 😊

[@clay4542]

I've been reading that the MAC has a button barrel instead of a CHF barrel like the AP5 has. So they aren't exactly the same.

[@knight9145]

@@clay4542Agree. I read that also.

[@tlwisner]

SDS Imports just uses the MAC Brand. MAC went under in the 70s so it is just a name now. Cool logo though.

[@pauliedweasel]

The grippy diamond plate hand guard was the original hand guard issued with the first MP5s.

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

This isn't bad at all, but I like the triangle fatter one personally.

[@Bryan-yq9pz]

Correct, I love it just like I love diamond plate truck beds. Awesome stuff

[@pauliedweasel]

@@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER I have one of the AC versions of the triangular hand guard that has vent holes on the side and is lightly ribbed (For your pleasure). The ribbing really improves you hold on the gun. At least now that I have the MAC I’m already for Christmas and Hans Grubber! 😉

[@AleisterCrowly2]

It's not hard to find the triangular handguards if you are wanting to change it out.

[@Rgrrgr175]

80s kids dream. Yessir!

[@johnroper3077]

For the full size, I got a PTR-9c first, then an MKE AP5 for outdoor range training. Now, you show up telling me I could have a grand in the bank if I only waited. Plus, I had to buy that B&T style flash hider myself. A lot of people said the PTR-9's were even too high which was when the AP5 core was released by Century Arms. The MP5 fence dwellers shouldn't be hangin' out anymore with the MAC. I'd still put an HK-C1 binary in that thing. It makes it an MP5 with ammo discipline. Semper Fi.🇺🇲

[@bobbressi5414]

Fired an MP 5 years ago in .40 SW. It was my first time firing a full auto and it was easy to dump a mag and and put every round on paper at 10 yards. Now 30 feet may not seem like much but as a full auto virgin at the time I was astounded how nice the recoil impulse was.

[@nickm8651]

MAC 5 is spot on, and absolutely a very nice piece. My bolt gap is perfect at 0.45 too. So the quality is HK Tooling and its perfect. Great quality control.

[@fuzzyreticle]

Mertsav is the actual manufacturer. They are sub contractors for MKE and these are made from mostly MKE components. It stands to reason that these would be nearly identical to MKE sub guns.

[@gainesdavis9869]

The majority of the parts are manufactured by Mertsav in their own facilities.

[@michaelkim3432]

Nice review thanks! The MP5 might just be the MOST iconic gun out there. Glad someone is making a faithful reproduction for an awesome price!

[@NoneYaBidness762]

I built mine from a flat, using a de-milled MP5 for parts. I love it. And Im fortunate to have a good friend with a transferable auto sear. It’s by far, my favorite gun.

[@bbc91camaro]

I just ordered one of these yesterday and didn't see your review. After watching yours I'm a subscriber thank you for an honest In-Depth review. I am pumped to get this thing!!!

[@Noomi2006]

I have always wanted an MP5 but didn't want to spend spend a ton. I am excited we finally get a more affordable alternative!

[@jaysonmode2112]

This is my first episode with you guys. I liked your show in about 5 minutes. You guys make this understandable. You don’t talk down to us Thank you. This is my first show and will not be my last

[@ZMT85]

Braces are available on their website and the gun is compatible with MOST MP5 accessories.

[@MrLoosebolt]

i'd like to see the k version as well. for the $ you can get both for less than the h&k. bucket list for sure.

[@Luckyshot49]

My dream gun

[@187manowar]

I pulled the trigger on this gun without watching your video. I found your video afterwards and only reassured me that I made the right decision. I can’t believe how close to a real MP5 this thing seems. Other than the branding and the threaded barrel, I cannot tell a difference.Heading to the hardware store to get a file.😂

[@davidgolden1726]

Wondering if the use of a file would make it then a unlawful possession 🤷‍♂️

[@RenzinoBambino]

Check your bolt gap before firing

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

@@RenzinoBambinoours, and all the ones we’ve put hands on since this video are in spec, I’m not sure how many folks don’t have a bolt gap, but we haven’t seen that yet coming through our shop.

[@caseysmith8831]

Did this get function tested with hollow points?

[@ducksrgud]

Lee's sporting makes a "lower" for mp5 clones that lets you use AR grips and triggers as well as an AR safety. I think there's some fitment you have to do and I'm pretty sure you have to modify most triggers but not all. They have the information on their website

[@DrrrtyDee]

Then it's not an MP5 anymore.

[@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006]

Why would you want AR junk on a MP5 or any other H&K stuff any way, and you can tell I am not an AR guy.

[@fatboy_623_azg8]

This is an amazing weapon, I've always wanted an MP5 and never pulled the trigger, lol. What a suprise this would be. Keep it up. i love the videos so far.

[@RM-hb4zw]

I just got the Mac 5 and im very impressed with it. Very well made. I would recommend getting one while you can at this price point.

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

We were kind of blown away when we saw the sticker. It’s insane these are less than a grand.

[@jayrochin5318]

Theses look really great. Will look online for one.

[@tomahawk5118]

I picked up one of the AP5-P’s from Atlantic for less than $900 and glad I did. I may have to go for a full size MAC version.

[@Richv3h]

I did the same. The AP5P’s are really good. They’re actually made on the same machinery as the real MP5s were made on for HK.

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

Let us know, and we can get you squared away!

[@cnctactical]

if your thinking about getting the MAC 5 now is the time! the price is right. but I fear the price will go up closer to November when people start panic buying.

[@KennethSchmitt]

My fear as well

[@jacksonmarshallkramer5087]

The solid stock is so much more badass than the collapsible stock.

[@bruceclapp8836]

Good Review. I've been looking and at the different clones on line trying to choose. Half of me wants the SP5 just because.... But for the price of this, if it is that true to form and spec of the original. Its looking like this is a MAC Daddy ~ conspicuously successful.

[@ptrthgr8]

@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER Did you guys check the bore/muzzle threading concentricity? Would like to know about that, as well as how tight the 3-lug locks up.

[@brandonwebb4574]

MP5s are a gift from God

[@zeme0556]

that handguard is like the original H&K

[@allannahar1786]

At about 1/3 the price of HK I’d give it a shot.

[@grinningDEATH76]

Ordered mine yesterday. Always wanted an mp5 and this is as close as I'll ever get.

[@hyruleking76]

such a cool gun

[@ferebeefamily]

Thank you gentlemen for the video.

[@lordbunny2416]

I love that gun!!!!

[@Nick-sz3wx]

I’m about to buy one of these. Glad I found your channel and review! Keep it up fellas! Stay strapped!!

[@RM-hb4zw]

Got my Mac5 a few weeks ago. Absolutely love it. Its well made and shoots great. I can buy 3 for the price of a sp5.

[@Gunner-ll1zd]

Button rifling vs chf barrel? Extra $ worth the chf?

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

IMO, and I’m sure someone will get Butt hurt out there, but I don’t think CHF is as big of a deal with pistol calibers. Sure, it’s better, but I don’t see it drastically changing the durability or longevity of a pistol caliber firearm.

[@KennethSchmitt]

Unless you’re running full auto I don’t think it’ll matter much. At least it’s chrome lined

[@brucelarson6714]

@@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTERI’ve done testing of various bbl steel types and bore treatments for the 300 Blackout. CHF in that caliber with jacketed bullets only adds about 500 rounds of life over non CHF. 41V50 steel adds more bbl life than 4140 and chrome plating really adds to the life. Nitriding does add life, but not as well as chrome plating. I wouldn’t worry about non CHF.

[@timpowell1463]

Looks nice. I always wanted one but to costly to me. But this one looks damn good. I have the HK 91 and have wanted a MP 5 to add this to the family but this would do for me.

[@Malloc42]

Definitely adding to the "Want List". Thanks for the nice review guys!

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

Any time!

[@mikeykreis617]

Great video guys, keep up the great videos !!!

[@peterschmidt2849]

Love mine

[@nickm8651]

Has it ever jammed? I was going to purchase the Zenith ZF-5 but seen many videos that it has ejection, jamming and last bullet not firing issues and don't want to deal with it.

[@oneijack98]

So the barrel is not CHF? Is that a deal breaker? I was about to buy a Zenith ZF5.

[@Gunner-ll1zd]

Chrome lined button rifled. I asked sds directly.

[@ikegilbert31]

Sweet gun

[@danielcardona9703]

I need this in my life!!!❤

[@dougcowdery9478]

Hell yeah!

[@Thomas-vt7cz]

What's up guys nice content... I have the AP5 dressed it like the original MP5, Lol... 😎

[@zachconroy1443]

Love that fixed stock 🤌🤌

[@EricElles]

@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER Great video! Question: Where did you get the full sized buttstock for the MAC-5? I think it looks amazing, but I can't find where in anywhere online to purchase. Can you assist with where to find the buttstock (and/or what make/model buttstock to search on our own for?). Thanks again, guys!

[@paulmanhart4481]

What kind of barrel does it have compared to the mp5? I think it’s a button barrel. But I just received mine. HK website has a trigger that fires a round when it is pulled and released. Any experience with this? Thanks, Paul

[@03harleydeuce]

That is the Frankllin Binary trigger that fires on pull and release. Freaking $600!!! Thats absurd! The MAC Barrel is chrome lined. Welds are good. It is also made on Licensed HK machinery but their QC on bolt gap sucks butt. MIne had ZERO bolt gap. I am in the process of RMA to SDS for repairs.

[@jlcarender]

Great video as far as the slim handguard on the Mac 5 its the same as the original MP5 handguard the triangle handguard was not introduced until 1978

[@dismalyt5649]

I've always wanted an MP5

[@gerade-aus]

I've seen SP89s with blobby welds and paint holidays from the late 80s and early 90s probably due to the watercooler being filled with bier.

[@fredbecker607]

Can always use another. Expensive are better but cheap is good too.

[@xXGameboy67Xx]

How's this compared to something like an AP5?

[@djblackruss]

Ap5 is made on HK machines. I suspect this is just a renamed AP5 from the same factory

Less cold hammer forged barrel.

[@TheRange7]

Guys, I'm outta the loop, did PSA ever come out with their version? It was the most talked about firearm on YT for a while. I haven't followed along. I'm the odd man out as I've never been an MP5 fan. (ducking) It's cool and all, but it's not one I'd buy. Very good look at this one. Thanks fellas.

[@zues287]

Nope. PSA cancelled the project quite awhile ago. The imported clones came onto the market and PSA realized they couldn't compete on price, so they permanently shelved the project.

[@TheBobNoxious]

They decided to go with their version of the MP7 instead 😅

[@TheRange7]

@@zues287 Thanks Z

[@zues287]

@@TheBobNoxious to be fair, they're going to be able to make a hell of a lot more money on the MP7-at home. People have been clamoring for a semi-affordable MP7 for decades, and the PSA version is chambered in a cheaper round (though still expensive). I'm personally not that interested in it, but that gun is going to sell like hot cakes.

[@ItsBiscoitoIndeed]

The AR-V is their answer to compete with these clones from overseas

[@OperationNorthwoods]

I am jealous! I wish I could afford one.

[@MrTwindog4]

Nice this is great! MAC 5 is cool retro clone of the HK MP5!!

[@tdevore63]

Did u guys see the torture test just released by battle hawk armory? Mac-5 had some serious issues when they poured water over it to cool it off. I don't think they lubed it enough but still concerning. I just ordered one. Don't have it yet.

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

I mean, don’t dunk it in water to cool it off? Personally, I’ve never done that, and I’m not sure how many guns would like that… but hey, torture test away.

[@tdevore63]

Ha! Right I agree but would you recommend running the gun wetter than normal or even using grease? Would be cool to see a test where it's lubed up more. I bought one but there video makes the Mac look pretty unreliable. Thx for the response appreciate it.

[@reddelta3898]

$975 sale last week thru Atlantic. 👍🏻😁

[@chrissewell1608]

Ohhhh. Thanks

[@earlleeah]

Awesome

[@lilcommando]

I rather have the CHF barrel of the MKE and as for their magazines they work without any issues with the six I have. I also have HK magazines with the old LEO markings and no issues in the MKE. It is nice to have other companies building these pistols to help bring the cost down on these type of firearms. Does the MAC 5 have a chrome lined barrel?

[@chrissewell1608]

Someone else said it does have a chrome lined barrel.

[@cnctactical]

yes the barrel is chrome lined just not CHF

[@santhony74]

There is nothing wrong with a chrome lined button cut barrel

[@David-rc8hp]

This is awesome always wanted an MP 5 an I just recently found out about this clone from MAC

[@Largecanyondog]

What distance is this? I can’t imagine an indoor range far enough to spray that much.

[@jeffreynye3019]

Do you think real deal smooth handguards would fit on the mac5?

[@rooftopkorean7293]

They do.

[@SerafinaTorgul]

How does this stack up to the POF5 from Pakistan Ordinance Factories.

[@Guntismo]

The original handguard for the MP5 is the checkered handguard.

[@spraynpray]

That slim handguard is the pre1978 one. The wide one is a big improvement and cheap.

[@CarlosGunX]

I'm thinking, for the non-FFL/SOT, trying to SBR this would be a violation of "922r", which is a felony.

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

This is a great point! The simple answer is, use a US-made MP5 magazine and you should be fine. Though I am not an attorney and this is not legal advise. I like how John Pierce breaks this down (short read). The ATF, not surprisingly, has flip-flopped many times over the years on 922(r)...especially with making an SBR from a pistol. johnpierceesq.com/does-922r-apply-when-building-an-sbr-from-an-imported-pistol/

[@CarlosGunX]

@@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER Thanks for the link. "Ten part maximum" of imported parts and this pistol is 100% made of imported parts. Something to ponder. All the channels I have seen about this pistol promote the same jargon: "you may register it as a SBR." As a lifelong NFA collector, I choose to avoid "grey areas." Your mileage, of course ,will vary.

[@tlwisner]

MP5 clone finally hit my price range for fun toy. Gotta have a brace or stock on this indeed. Just need to win the lottery and pick up a real MP5 but in the mean time MAC-5 will do.

[@KennethSchmitt]

My thoughts exactly. The sp5 is barely worth it anymore especially considering you could get a HK AR for 2-300 more for what they’re charging for it which would be more worth it.

[@knight9145]

I’m with you, need to win the lottery to get a real mp5. I think the cheapest I saw was about $72,000!

[@gingerbreadmanyee3474]

this boy just turned into mark morrison lol return of the mack fr

[@rossincognito273]

Awesomeness at 39 I need this piece of hardware

[@pixamite1]

A great review! I just subbed👍🏽

[@okbob8147]

Great review

[@sniprfire3774]

How far away was a the target. Groups look wide

[@GaryPhillips-p5w]

Thanks for the info!!

[@jeroendesterke9739]

Unless I'm mistaken - but are those rounds keyholing?

[@thwolf762]

Nah, the paper target doesnt have a backer so the holes just tear out kind of easy

[@harrystatic1494]

basically SDS is importing from the MKE factory just like Century . If you wanna watch deeper into their factory in Turkey YT MKE Arms Turkey factory

[@tlwisner]

I can't compare it to others but mine has been quite nice for a poor man's MP5.

[@williamcrawford7982]

Chrome barrel, bolthead gap ,extractor spring?

[@georgelopez16]

5 star video

[@santhony74]

What is that sound after the shots?

[@DjKaykoe1]

👍🏻 good video liked and subscribed

[@KY-np6ow]

Prefer the skinny handguard. True old school MP5.

[@albundy7459]

Is it actually out yet?

[@stonefox9124]

😂 right! I'm seeing all this crazy budget copies but nothing is out or in stock. It's like a myth!

[@blainegoodwin6365]

Yes

[@albundy7459]

@@stonefox9124 they were supposed to be out in April. It’s September and I still haven’t seen one.

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

We've had a few come through, and do stock them. They are just now starting to trickle in, but they were supposedly going to be available at the beginning of Q2... They availability is getting better and better.

[@CrotalusKid]

Yep. Bought one at a gun store in Knoxville a few hours ago

[@papandreasg]

Great video, guys! Question…does a Franklin binary trigger just drop in? Is it a ‘better feel’ binary…crisp, lighter, etc?

[@gainesdavis9869]

yes

[@Ki113rTofu]

I’ll be getting one real soon!!

[@loganw4633]

Love the content you earned a subscriber. I had one question, thought on the barrel not being chrome lined?

[@lolheadgaskets9530]

The barrel is chrome lined.

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

It is chrome lined. It's pretty much an OEM barrel you'd find for any of the MP5 clones.

[@frankieb9444]

Does it come in Red Tiger?

[@Gunforhire70]

I'm gonna get one of these.

[@979predatorhunters]

Does it accept the Franklin armory Binary trigger? The only thing i need to know before i go and get me one.

[@gainesdavis9869]

yes

[@thelonglife5772]

Hk all day . I learned my lesson.

[@erinshanebaker]

MAC is doing some good things

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

Love to own something like this.

[@notahandle965]

It looks and feels like a real MP5.

[@TheVet3184]

I bought one made by MKE .

[@davidthomas4325]

A little different trigger eh? I see you.😮😊

[@majic5zero]

"Welcome to the party, pal!"

[@brettbarnes8520]

M17 is a very good tool to have

[@tonydeaton1967]

Does adding the shoulder stock make it a Class III weapon?

[@BUCKEYESHOOTINGCENTER]

It makes it a SBR (Short barreled rifle). However, there’s been some discussions on the legality of SBRing an import pistol. We are not attorneys and do not provide legal advice. We can because we have the proper license to do so.