The best of: Class 313

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[@captainboing]

blimey! there's some 'orrible wheel flats in that lot!. I remember when the 313s were brand new and we use to go to Finsbury Park to bag 'em. was like finding gold, they looked so futuristic to my young eyes - and here we are approaching 50 years later and we are syaing goodbye. Doesn't seem real somehow... 48 years? where has the time gone? and obvs a good design.

[@christill]

I actually quite like the look of these in my local Southern livery. Old electric trains are ok with me. Get rid of the fossils first and then upgrade these after. We still have a ridiculously large number of diesel trains in this country. There’s a big chance that cars will be all electric before trains. And you could have done trains almost a century ago.

[@louisaugustexvi4515]

i agree

[@Drankovich]

You make out that train tech hasn't made any progress since the classic claggers of yore. There's no magic wand to suddenly conjure up cost effective, reliable & efficient battery powered units with room for major cooling systems to fulfil this lofty sudden replacement dream of yours. The performance would have to be 1-1 to meet the variety of roles. Be realistic, rail current has to be constantly on and most of the electricity provided in the UK is natural gas so more often than not, electric locos are supplied by a fossil fuel. Not to mention impacts on commuters electrifying branch lines which rely on semi modern DMUs. And besides, all electric cars may well be a thing, but there's gonna be very few people driving them for the price tag & ridiculous charge times. What you reckon, pantographs & contact shoes for cars... 🙄

[@bangerbangerbro]

@@Drankovich What he means is, what is the justification for spending money replacing electric trains with life left in them when there still isn't enough money to electrify all the diesels?

[@bb-3653]

Oh wow..that speedy southern one looked really cool

[@bb-3653]

For something so old they were really quick at accelerating. Even on third rail.

[@millercool21]

The 313 are one of my local trains.I will miss them when there gone.

[@millercool21]

And one of my fav trains

[@Cspotting_]

They sound a lot like class 508 507 and 315

[@millercool21]

They are part of the PEPS

[@Southerntrainspotter315]

Sane here brotha

[@paulanderson7796]

they're

[@Shortfin_Mako10k]

Its good to see that some people dtill remember the 313. It will sure tear a big peice of my heart when gon as this hve been my favourite train since childhood

[@bobwood856]

Just two observations really. First, the sound of these units when they take off, the low-pitched hum rising gently as they speed up, is so much nicer than the piercing alien screech and whine of the newer units. And second, the look of the third-rail electric railway is so much neater and less environmentally intrusive than the forest of overhead lines.

[@thetransporthub]

yeah I much prefer the sound of the 31x and 32x units to modern stuff, and being a Southern boy its third rail all the way!

[@bobwood856]

@@thetransporthub I go back as far as the 4-EPBs, the 4-CORs and 4-CIGs etc. from way back in the 60s and 70s, and when they were green all over! They sounded like the 313s do. Lived in Hounslow in those days on the commuter line through Clapham Junction to Waterloo. Great days.

[@Rocksock531]

I way prefer overhead as it's much more efficient and safe than third rail, they're never going to install third rail again anyway

[@AnandamoyeeRahman]

@@Rocksock531 Ditto, overhead is much safer than third rail, but I definitely love that sound those 313s make as they accelerate.

[@dgattenb]

The last one I went one was the line into morgate , last year. On it all day ... awsome little personal railtour LOL I loved the 1980s look inside .. and nice seats ... ( bar the 3 seats in a row )

[@robshipway2269]

I went on the Gerry's Railtour in October last year and it was great. Notice, that I do make an appearance at about 13:49, where the train is coming into Kings Cross station.

[@thetransporthub]

So did I, was a great run!

[@justinspiewak1240]

RIP CLASS 313!!! I LOVED THE 313s SO MUCH!!!

[@carnivorousvegan69]

@@MJBuses only until they get a replacement

[@TheosTrainsWalesOfficial]

It is a real shame they didn't preserve more of these for railtours.

[@Alec_66721]

3:19 - rest in piece 313214 😢

[@FedeAguirre24]

2:39 / Same as in Argentina

[@Great_WesternTVFan]

I think I found a small difference between the 313 and the 315, the 315s have a more lower and a louder motor when accelerating, and the 313s don't. The 315s have a more motor power, I think

[@bb-3653]

I think some trains are deliberately built more powerful than others when they come from the same fleet. Like electrostars arent all the same power either

[@bb-3653]

No one:.... Class313s:...."chugachugachugachugachuga!!!"

[@poisonthrax]

as a Hong Kong person the motor sound is so familiar

[@ylchoibus11082]

Why?

[@alexb__4133]

These interestingly sound very similar to the Austrian ÖBB 4020.

[@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333]

Great video.☺️

[@thetransporthub]

Thank you!

[@heliostransport515]

The question is, what will replace them? Class 331? Class 720 but shorter? Time will tell...

[@thetransporthub]

Class 717 has replaced the GN ones, the Southern ones don't have a replacement yet

[@5HADOW-The-Silverado]

southerns havent been replaced officially yet, but are covered by existing 377s thus meaning some services being shortened train length wise. Southern 313201 still survives on and is fully operational. Network Rails 313 121 also survives on too unsure if its fully operational.

[@spacelavayt7446]

@@5HADOW-The-SilveradoNetwork rail 313 actually does track inspections down the northern city line now, believe it or not 😂

[@nathansrailwayphotography8125]

Great video

[@thetransporthub]

Thanks

[@notnjx5270]

pep

[@GeneralTrainGuy]

why are they in FCC livery?

[@cedriclynch]

The Class 313 was originally built for the Moorgate suburban services, the southern end of which is a former London Underground line with no room in the tunnel for overhead wires; hence the ability to use third rail as well as overhead power supply. 313s later were used on other lines as well. Before the introduction of the 313s in the mid 1970s most of the Great Northern suburban services went from King's Cross rather than Moorgate, and mainly used DMUs of class 105 and later also the class 125 which had Rolls-Royce engines and hydraulic transmission.

[@GeneralTrainGuy]

@@cedriclynch ok

[@joshuamacdonald7702]

Sussex rambler

[@Stevenhamer82]

Why were these scrapped, they were good

[@thetransporthub]

as great as they were, they were over 40 years old. Still the Southern ones are going strong

[@Stevenhamer82]

@@thetransporthub that's good at least some are around. I miss their sound

[@rabd9881]

They also have no toilets and no aircon to the annoyance of everyone on coastway

[@CaseysTrains]

An average train is only suppose to last 35 Years. The bodies are usually designed to last up to 50 but the electrics, controls, and mechinism were only designed for 35. Compound that by the fact they were made by a company who no longer exists. Despite the fact the share parts with a few other Mark II Trains, there isn't much Mark II parts to go around and keep the 313s running. If anything scrapping this fleet (and the 315s) now gave more parts to the Southern 313s and Merseyside 507/508s which is how those variants were able to last longer. Also Southern's 313s were rebuilt at the 35 year mark so the bodies MAY make it to 50 at this rate.

[@Stevenhamer82]

@@CaseysTrains I use to watch those trains when I lived down south, and I do miss them and the sound they made as they leave the platform

[@Southerntrainspotter315]

1:33 hes predending to be a steam engine

[@ylchoibus11082]

It sounds like the n word

[@carnivorousvegan69]

2:40 those sparks

[@millercool21]

A swt 170

[@carnivorousvegan69]

@@millercool21 ye swt got rid of their 170s in 2007

[@Southerntrainspotter315]

oof