The BEST Offlane Heroes in 7.37b Meta Dota 2

[@TorteDeLini]

Would you guys be interested in me streaming on KZbin?

[@dredderick3686]

hell yea

[@ieatchoclates2477]

lezgo

[@academicp1318]

Definitely broski

[@idlemindedmage6925]

Yes!

[@mr.tagalog1791]

Thank you so much I was patiently waiting for this vid❤

[@TorteDeLini]

No problem 😊

[@kruzergkruzz]

ik this guy, keep using his guide in dota 2 :D every heroes exist

[@fredrick2036]

You're a jewel in the dota community. Been spamming underlord and Axe in ancient bracket.

[@TorteDeLini]

Underlord is practically autowin

[@Sn00pDevill]

*Pudge best, all positions* Буча автовин

[@miloskovacevic5181]

I would put here Centaur also. Avoiding Boots of Speed with Facet 2 and taking 3 bracers is such op thing for laning stage and taking early off lane tower. After 25 minutes he is getting more strenght from bracers and he saved golds for another items instead of taking phase boots, like old Centaur was doing. He is also very thankfull hero for purchasing Pipe if it is necessary(Etheral is more stronger on him), Shiva for lifesteal/health regen reduction and good item against illusion heroes or Crimson for team protection against Physical damage, which is giving a huge amount of protection, since Crimson is buffed. Blade Mail also as core and Hearth of Tarasque which is perfect item for his passive relitate and his passive facet(every 120sec more strength) which is giving him huge amount of regeneration. I saw a lot of games where he was unkillable even against Vessel and late game Skadi. Other heroes that you mentioned are S tier for sure. :)

[@TorteDeLini]

Centaur & Mars are similar and both great!

[@noobwithattitude]

that underlord was incredibly frustrating to play against last night, but playing him is sooo boring 😥

[@lincoln43267]

what's your thoughts on dagon? specifically for heros like underlord i'm finding it underated as now the cd is quite low and just one level in dagon can be used to farm large neutral creeps while also giving a large amount of heal if used on a centaur creep etc (so ult to gank dagon hero then dagon two large camp creeps then ult repeat) i find underlord is able to do a decent amount of damage and has one lockdown ability but enemies tend to just walk away at low health. then using dagon, now they are force to walk away at 400 health and provides decent regen especially paired with shard and it boost farming speed. the cost is not having a good timing for pipe/greaves but as a offlane ganker the dagon seems to allow you to put more pressure agaisnt enemy cores

[@TorteDeLini]

Queen of Pain loves going full dagon now, it's scary. Dagon kinda needs better scaling so you need to grab it fast or it be amplified by your hero's kit (nyx, QoP)

[@BossClown9]

Torte de lini, the unsung hero of Dota. They should name an item in your name!!

[@BossClown9]

Torte de lini's book of knowledge 😎 Or a new one 😆

[@Loongguy]

LC really fell off she isn't even mentioned here. 😔

[@TorteDeLini]

Not an aura carrier or good team fighting ability

[@muhammadizzatmohdhayazi4706]

Thank u for the work you do. Casual gamers like me appreciate it very much.

[@academicp1318]

Good guide on my boy underlord. but sometimes there are games when you can’t do alone if your teammates are imbeciles. Currently I prefer more venge on pos 3 end up having the highest damage dealt on almost every game. Currently at ancient 4 trying to reach to divine

[@TorteDeLini]

Venge 3 is good, just the meta moving away from Carry 3s

[@brayammamanicoyla2544]

first time i see your face bro, I've been using your guides and it helped me achieve inmortal medal, thank u

[@TorteDeLini]

Glad to hear

[@zveers121]

No idea why you wouldn't include Abbadon (i have 90% wr in 25 games(3.5kmmr)) Love your guide btw.

[@TorteDeLini]

Cause he has no presence in the lane

[@matthewmurray6319]

congrats on the channel growing.

[@TorteDeLini]

Thanks man

[@ShortsDota2]

Whenever Enigma, Axe, and Seer are in the meta, I'm all for it.

[@Gamersince991]

Thank you for all your work, Dota community truly appreciates it ❤

[@Rippi__]

youre the guy that i copy my guides from, good work fulltime dota 2 guide maker

[@ieatchoclates2477]

the goat

[@TorteDeLini]

Cheers! ♥️ (Not full-time)

[@maicee7603]

my biggest irk playing Underlord and Enigma is that sometimes no one want to be in the front and everyone insist that an offlaner should be the one who do that lmao

[@knkaitlog]

"pick tank" braindead idiots keep doing that shit. a tiny can go first, clockwerk can go first, wraith king can go first, faceless void could go first if he has info/vision. fuck that MMO mindset about requireing "tank"

[@binhvan4893]

Fr, and thats not including the fact picking overlord these days is literally asking the enemy team to pick rubick lol.

[@RapFa-Hater420]

underlord can frontline

[@gdaycunts4694]

Only low rank mindset. I used to listen to 3k and was stuck there for years till I started playing on ALL MUTE and started climbing to 6k. It's much easier when your team knows that axe is a catch hero and LC can be a catch and save hero and should NOT show till they see a key target to go on. But low rank mindset is ANY offlane hero with blink dagger blademail= TANKING and you should be playing like underlord and bristleback with catch heroes. So stupid.

[@warmanegame1530]

@@RapFa-Hater420 not as good as you'd think

[@EizuGuitar]

mid lane next please!

[@TorteDeLini]

Coming up this week, supports wrapping up now

[@cbelsh2585]

Can you make a build for Lycan with Alpha Wolves Facet?

[@TorteDeLini]

The game is bugged that won't allow me to suggest 7 levels of wolves

[@iAmZaltic]

Hoping for a in-game offlane guide for Undying

[@Learnfromtheworst.-gr3zi]

I am so sick of axe being meta

[@biengiecamon7938]

bat rider offlane is insane too

[@Randomperson-sz2gq]

I thought DP is going to be great with her new facet mourning ritual

[@TorteDeLini]

Sadly she isn't as influential as fights as these current offlaners. Great aura carrier though

[@decadence6418]

Timbersaw is really good, played 3 games won all.

[@TorteDeLini]

Fantastic Pipe carrier

[@pandayang693]

wats the best facet for underlord？

[@WilliamWatrous]

Horde

[@judeaberdeen6848]

Horde. The cleave may have range but is very weak. Don't build right click to make it better because it's straight up trolling. Horde helps ganking a ton and your Q will already wave clear so you don't need cleave.

[@TorteDeLini]

You can check my recommendation in the guide in-game but Horde

[@academicp1318]

You can pos1 underlord and go for cleave, also get battle-fury and sange and yasha first items then go throne at 20 min mark gsther up with ur teammates

[@alexandervlachos4720]

Hey man. Thanks for everythign you have supported to the community all those years. Been playing with your guides for ages and thought you are some kind of ghost or a whole team/project behind torte de lini to update so much at real time. Respect. :D

[@TorteDeLini]

Not a ghost, I just look like a ghoul 💀

[@AlexAlex-sp7nb]

Are you gonna do this for hard and soft support too? I know that you recently made these videos for the previous patches so idk if enough has changed

[@knkaitlog]

you didnt watch the end of the vid lol

[@TorteDeLini]

Yessir

[@monkboii2807]

I'd love to see someone cover dusa pos 4 I see some peeps experimenting with it and my personal experience is 7/10 wins at atchon 4 at the moment

[@academicp1318]

I’ve seen dusa mid but never 4 lmao

[@monkboii2807]

@academicp1318 give it a go, Max e and w take the venom volley facet and get solar crest euls and atos. Basically you have a big panic button which is Ur ult if the enemy jump Ur team, your facet is like a standard bash and your e is an amazing root with good damage.

[@academicp1318]

@@monkboii2807 will try but I guess gonna probably ruin the game)))

[@KiriyagaKazuto]

i think viper is worth mentioning here

[@TorteDeLini]

I love him

[@narcissism5155]

just post the mid tier list bro 🥲

[@TorteDeLini]

Coming after Support ♥️

[@Blackshowel]

criminal you didnt mention sand king

[@TorteDeLini]

I almost did but he's fallen down in winrate

[@michaelwambaugh6726]

Last patch I gained a ton of MMR playing treant protector 5. His latest change wasn’t really relevant at all, and am still on a roll. Blink first almost every game, but greaves holy locket is good too. Im also having success w omni 5 this patch. I do think q lvl 1 is better than e which is where your guide differs.

[@TorteDeLini]

Treant is fantastic! Good choice! E on Omni is lower cooldown and mana cost for similar damage as Q

[@marluroux8728]

Is vanguard soulring still good for underlord?

[@rmac0101]

I reckon its good if you want to rush Crimson guard, say against a Chen, Enigma, Lycan or Visage who apply pressure with units way earlier than Illu heroes like Naga or PL. I prefer Shivas against them

[@drewpeacock9087]

Crimson is still a great aura even if stuff like Pipe and Greaves are overall better, so Vanguard can definitely still be good.

[@ieatchoclates2477]

Rod of atos

[@lincoln43267]

agaisnt specific hero's - the idea aura lowers there damage and vg blocks the rest good agaisnt heroes with just physical damage and high number of attacks/ attack speed ie dusa wr bad agaisnt pa or od etc also note vanguard is quite weak but crimson is a big upgrade especially in this situation as your aura and crimson save your team and there is good armr and regen on crimson whereas vangaurd on just underlord isnt anywhere near as strong

[@TorteDeLini]

Just go Bracer, offers similar health but way more stats. You can get Crimson later

[@ieatchoclates2477]

FINALLY MY ROLE 🎉