True, but it's still a cotton shirt. So not entirely wrong.
@StanfordChiou4 жыл бұрын
There really is a difference between measuring yourself and trusting an algorithm.
@archermusa2843 жыл бұрын
@Brooks Finnegan yea, I have been watching on Flixzone} for years myself :)
@robtaylor10644 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing Brooks Bros custom shirts (non iron and regular) for a dozen years and have had some amazing shirts made, (at least 25) including many OCBD. I’m not sure now what direction the company is going to, in the future with the bankruptcy, but I’ve been completely happy. If your new to the custom shirt game, have only one made first (with any company) because there will be some changes in the fit after a few launderings. You need to see, feel and touch the fabric in person, so if your ordering on line, ask for samples.
@tyrellwithbapes3 жыл бұрын
Kamakura Shirts does custom too. They have many options for formal and casual formal for button down and non button down
@matthewsurles4 жыл бұрын
I recommend at least trying Brooks Brothers. Off the rack they have five different fits in all the typical neck sizes and sleeve lengths. Lots of colors and patterns. Perfect collar roll. Made in USA and they run sales quite often. If their off the rack is somehow not good enough they have custom options.
@JimfromBuffalo4 жыл бұрын
I have been wearing lands end ocbs forever! I am 6 ft 2 in and 165 and the slim fit is my go to! They are great value! Wash well! Many sizes! TOTALLY RECOMMEND! I only wish they were made in the USA.
@savesnine4 жыл бұрын
You missed a few OCBD staple companies: * Mercer & Sons * O'Connell's They're more prep/ivy league but are extremely well made but pretty boxy. I'd also recommend Drake's which is ultra high end but the collar roll is the best out there.
@UglyCameras4 жыл бұрын
Those are my two favorite brands! The best collar roll, shoulders are wide enough for me, and the perfect, full cut for tucking in and comfort.
@iliketoflips4 жыл бұрын
I love your roundups! I'm sending this to few buddies of mine that are trying to upgrade their wardrobe. I had a terrible experience with Deo Veritas. The shirt they delivered was the wrong size in every dimension, and the one free fit guarantee remake they sent was literally the exact same in every dimension except one of the sleeves was shorter. Extremely unresponsive customer service. I had to find the owner's email address in a forum from years ago because no one else would respond.
@locutusdborg1264 жыл бұрын
I'm an atheist. Deo Veritas means the truth of god or something to that effect. Pass.
@pygmalioninvenus60572 жыл бұрын
@@locutusdborg126 Good luck with that when you deal with tragedy, suffering, and death in your life and you're struggling to justify your own existence to yourself. Seriously, good luck.
@dr.stevenpennym.d.32412 жыл бұрын
I just received my first proper cloth shirt and I can only describe it in one word. Epic.
@woods162 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree
@TeslaRules18569 ай бұрын
They are amazing ! The website, the quality, the range of fabrics, service, and price. No sales or gimmicks.
@badogblue4 жыл бұрын
I would recommend Luca Faloni for their brushed cotton, good value/high quality.
@Wibb143 жыл бұрын
Always on the lookout for a longer shirttail and double buttons at the cuff. I freaking hate a large cuff opening without the option to fasten to the second button. Tons of makers don't include it. Drives me nuts. Just makes a person seem unkempt like a too-long sleeve on a jacket/blazer.
@Lassehansen33 жыл бұрын
Great rundown 👍 think it is worth mentioning the effect that the collar will have on the versatility of the shirt. You need a proper (longer collar) if you want to use it for more formal looks (with a tie or even with a jacket). Some of the shorter and more casual OCDBs like from Uniqlo really should only be used casually 🙂👍
@Manuel4214 жыл бұрын
I've been getting more into Dress shirts and upgrading my wardrobe so thank you very insightful content! Obviously haven't been able to go to the stores lately but these videos put things in perspective for when I am able to get back out and purchase more. I know you can buy online but for Dress shirts I definitely enjoy trying on first as well as other garments. Keep up the good work!
@kongmw4 жыл бұрын
i’m totally on board with reviews of fits being more centered on overall impressions rather than specifically how they do or do not fit reviewers. i’ve seen reviews on other channels (aimed at broad audience not specific subgroup) where they score something low because the OTR item didn’t fit their atypical body parts/proportions.
@Mister_Phafanapolis4 жыл бұрын
Happens a lot in watch reviews: guys have abnormally small/large wrists and ding a model for not fitting their outside-the-box appendage. OTR is basically made to be tailored. If they fit well enough without alternations, that's great. But most shirts could use some fine tuning.
@danielhakimi4 жыл бұрын
Also -- Gitman Bros. is a few different lines. You're getting OCBDs from Gitman Bros. Vintage, and that is not going to be a dressy OCBD.
@danielhakimi4 жыл бұрын
Where's Asket? How are you gonna skip Asket?
@SATULAL4 жыл бұрын
Was going to say this exactly!!!! Depending on when this video was done, shipping across the Atlantic due to Corona might have been an issue.
@SRCYTC4 жыл бұрын
Can’t have an ocbd discussion without mentioning Mercer & Sons. Made in USA, old school classic fit, lasts forever. Check them out.
@ReimerKeith4 жыл бұрын
I was also wondering why Mercer and Sons wasn't mentioned.
@tjs57704 жыл бұрын
A man after my own heart! OCBDs are my favorite shirt style. Unfortunately I can’t wear them year round because it’s just too damn hot in Texas sometimes. I held out for year wearing them in the summer but this year I just decided it wasn’t worth the sweat.
@samleslie98114 жыл бұрын
Texas heat is brutal, def recommend the bonobos swiss tech shirt if you absolutely have to wear that stuff for work or something. Gets me by in the Houston summer, and I sweat a lot
@danielcody8744 жыл бұрын
Try the cotton and linen ones from proper cloth. Or you could try the lightweight oxfords from Spier and McKay
@bjornfollin50563 жыл бұрын
Summer time is linen time
@pattgsm2 жыл бұрын
I think the only place in the U.S. that one cold wear typical weight OCBD’s all yr is Alaska. It’s a shirt that lasts because you can only l wear it comfortably 5 months (40 wears) out of the yr. Definitely a staple in the wardrobe but any temp over 80 F I’m reaching for a linen, poplin or a simple tee.
@brentl.vaneaton69014 жыл бұрын
I got one recently from LL Bean, better material than my Lands End and a good price...worth a look, cheers...
@hem234way4 жыл бұрын
Brent L. Van Eaton I’ll 2nd LL Bean. Quality at a reasonable price.
@t6v5c2 Жыл бұрын
Man, he sure quickly glossed over Gitman Bros, an absolutely iconic shirt maker.
@jasonwillis4819Ай бұрын
The "secret" manufacturer of Burberry shirts is Gitman Bros!
@pbreslin15354 жыл бұрын
Underrated channel & content. Been waiting for an informative piece on Oxford shirts! Thank you
@Jebro4394 жыл бұрын
I agree with the three colors white, light blue, and pink. thanks great video. I really enjoy this kind of content.Which company you recommend for bigger guys?
@bestdresseddad4324 жыл бұрын
Great video! Been waiting for an OCBD round up. J Crew from a few years back actually has longer arm lengths. That who I’ve been wearing pretty much everyday now
@donyconjux14 жыл бұрын
Been waiting a long time for this! Thanks Jon!
@GiorgiTheG4 жыл бұрын
+1 for Ratio I love their shirts, good customer service and quality but they can be slow as far a custom shirts go.
@gtowncasey1112 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat a true Oxford from Dillards. Roundtree and York golf series. Only available in the fall. Very thick and plenty of sizes to dial it in.
@GrandMoffSteve813 жыл бұрын
Dang, that was detailed. I don't own OCBD yet. Have a bunch of dress shirts from Express but I have been thinking about getting one of these for a casual look. Great info. Thanks.
@jamesmerone4 жыл бұрын
I dry clean all my nice clothes. I'm upgrading my wardrobe and it's costly so I think I'll be dry cleaning more often.
@marknewton62554 жыл бұрын
I have 3 OCBDs: White - Everlane (they run small, I'm always one size up here) Blue - Banana Republic Red/pink - Gitman Bros Vintage I was a little scared to pull the trigger initially on the GBV shirt given the cost, but I'm glad I did. It really is a huge step up over the other two shirts I have.
@nicorusso15264 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. I just bought some of the polos you reccomended in a previous video
@thePowerPlant4 жыл бұрын
Oxford Cloth Button Down..........
@allyjhughes4 жыл бұрын
No Asket?
@jeffreyanderson35014 жыл бұрын
love these videos Jon! Great content as usual!!
@jrooney582 жыл бұрын
This might be a bit pedantic, but OCBD stands for Oxford Cloth Button Down shirt, not Oxford Cotton Button Down. The Oxford cloth uses a particular weave for the shirt cloth, which has been incorporated into the name of the shirt. That being said, your rundown of shirt brands is pretty good, and generally informative. I will add, however, that you tend to bias your comments towards the brands that provide slimmer fits. Brooks Brothers and JPress provide a classic fit that provides more room than most of the other brands you mentioned. So, if you are a bit larger than average, take a look at what they have to offer. LL Bean is another brand whose OCBDs deserve consideration. They offer both a classic fit and a more tapered waist, though I don’t think that they are as dramatically tapered as many brands. They offer them in solid colors, bengal stripes and tattersall patterns.
@robertthorn95604 жыл бұрын
Try thrift stores, Goodwil, I pickup 7 BB pinpoint oxfords for .99 each...that was the best deal usually they run around 4.99 each.
@andreleverettejr37474 жыл бұрын
A few days ago I was able to purchase a blue and pink (already had a white) ocbd and I feel complete
@diffcontroversy4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, Jon! I'm going to buy a custom from Ratio! Also, can you do a video about tie knot and collar combinations?
@The_Kavalier4 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@thechief0434 жыл бұрын
Interesting roundup for sure; I've been using Western Rise's button down in place of the standard OCBD.
@elmanitasdeplomo2 жыл бұрын
You Americans are so lucky with everything being cheaper there. 50 bucks buys one a H&M or Zara shirt here in the Netherlands.
@Stan_sprinkle4 жыл бұрын
Ledbury - buy if you have relatively long arms. For example, I typically wear a 15.5 neck 33" sleeve, a very common size. I think most shirt manufacturers offers 15.5/33. Ledbury starts with a 34" sleeve, and you have to pay extra to reduce the length. I did that, and it didn't come out great the first time, had to have it adjusted again. It's a bummer because I love the shirt, but I wouldn't recommend the extra cost of alteration compared to some other options.
@ReimerKeith4 жыл бұрын
Using the length to control where it rides on your wrist results in a shirt that pulls up your arm when you reach outwards. Instead, keep a generous arm length and tighten the cuff to set where it rides.
@pattgsm3 жыл бұрын
@@ReimerKeith Agreed. Most OTR 33, 34 are not accurate. Better to get slightly longer but closest to length and adjust the button or have a tailor make the length adjustment to your arm. Then you can actually get a perfect fit. These measurements can then be used later for a MTM/MTO shirt.
@TheCitizenFitz2 жыл бұрын
Blank Label makes great shirts. Their Oxford is a nice heavy cloth that will wear like iron.
@OKOK-hm2is3 ай бұрын
OCBD does not pair well with my OCD😂 Well I don't really have OCD, but I found out that buttoned down collars always lay asymmetrically, when they are worn without tie and unbuttoned. One part of collar lays lower and the other one stays higher and always touches my neck, and I fucking hate that asymmetrical feel in that area, it drives me crazy. So, despite they are considered informal, the only way I can really wear OCBD is buttoned up and with a tie.
@seansmith12344 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Oxford cloth button down
@eyeheartsushi22124 жыл бұрын
That’s what it is.
@Chris-io2cs3 жыл бұрын
I noticed you did a video on teddy Stratford a while back but don't seem to have mentioned them since unless I'm missing it. You seemed to give them a pretty favorable review so is there a reason they wouldn't be in this round up? I know they are technically not a button down since they do the zipper thing but still. Did you end up deciding that the conventional shirts are just better or would you still wear a TS shirt and how does it compare to some of these other brands in the same price range?
@theunityofknowledge28874 жыл бұрын
Great video! I will try Everlane, Mack Weldon, Bonobos, and Ledbury.
@michaelgraci29254 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff Jon! A few pet peeves of mine. The shirt should be able to button comfortably at the neck. A few of those shirts appeared like they would not. Silly I know, but I look at a guy with open collar & wonder, "can he button that?" Transparent OCBDs! On far too many shirts today, you can see skin through the fabric (even some of the custom shirts). Sleeve length is another, some of the shirts (images on the manufacturers sites) were either too long or short. Your white Mack Weldon, suffers from both (transparent & short sleeved). You said you've had for a while, so it might be time to make it an under layer to your favorite sweater. :). Terrific content. Good many options to consider. Thanks
@KevinPDunn7 ай бұрын
In case anyone is still looking: O’Connell’s Clothing Ben Silver Mercer & Sons
@beinggood57204 жыл бұрын
can you do a comfort oriented WFH uniform?
@seansica9974Ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on Kamakura Vintage versus Gitman Vintage?
@bbbarham62646 ай бұрын
Any recommendations for best OCBD performance/stretchy shirts?
@rbyrd16764 жыл бұрын
Stafford slim fit OBDC are incredible at an amazing price. Long live JCP. Btw Jon, watch your closet.... #samesize
@kimlin9204 жыл бұрын
Can you wear with tie or no tie? I think it’s okay to, but some ppl say no. What do you think?
@sooovann89084 жыл бұрын
Love Uniqlo for really cheap slim button down shirts
@cgranero14 жыл бұрын
Good video. I'll just add that I bought one of the Tie Bar's OCBDs and was pretty disappointed with it. It's super wrinkly. Have you ever ordered a MTM shirt from Tailor Store?
@eyeheartsushi22124 жыл бұрын
I ordered a MTM shirt from the Tailor Store about 2.5 years ago. The fit was perfect but I then lost weight and started wearing wristwatches which meant the shirt got less wear.
@nikhilsrl4 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive as always.
@georgevavoulis47582 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a show on BAND COLLAR shirts 👕
@lecitron76394 жыл бұрын
Very interesting ! We await your video about best jock-strap to wear! 😛
@simmyjer4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!!
@alexandercrosby45384 жыл бұрын
This is a really comprehensive, what would you suggest on a slim/long-arms front? I have the hardest time with off the rack shirts and sleeve length for my slim build average height, but longer arms.
@Woodiesclothing4 жыл бұрын
Woodies Clothing! ;)
@wimbellemans69524 жыл бұрын
Is Suit Supply not worth mentioning in the custom options?
@DjFurrySTL4 жыл бұрын
I stray from ties when I wear button down collars. In my opinion, it clashes with the formality of the tie and the informality of the button down collar
@222tifi4 жыл бұрын
Tie + Button Down Shirt combo seems to have become a bit of a stylistic Americanism. Would look odd in London.
@aovermont3 жыл бұрын
I love it for casual look with a tie. Exceptional preppie look.
@danielhakimi4 жыл бұрын
I want a luxury category from you.
@gregorius27544 жыл бұрын
charles tyrwhitt?
@seanmcguire79744 жыл бұрын
You must have a great closet by now
@edulopez214011 ай бұрын
Gitman Brothers the best of the best!
@stanwright34194 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@Anti-Taxxer4 жыл бұрын
Rowing Blazers have some great Made in the U.S.A. Oxfords.
@MJagger89 Жыл бұрын
No J Press? Did I miss it!?!?
@WilliamPhillips-m9j7 ай бұрын
My favorite
@jorgebarrerat4 жыл бұрын
Good video, my favore type of shirts
@AmerikiDork3 жыл бұрын
OCBD Oxford Cloth Button Down
@datsunmadman2 жыл бұрын
I hard time buying clothes due to my muscles body
@the_9ent4 жыл бұрын
Tucked or untucked?
@mikekisonu68254 жыл бұрын
L.L. Bean. Seriously. 😉
@yavarbates764 жыл бұрын
does anyone have an opinion on Massimo Dutti OCBD's?
@aveuch3 жыл бұрын
Pet peeve: unbuttoning the effing button down collar.
@rtwo86194 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@JSon-uu6jz4 жыл бұрын
It’s Oxford “Cloth” Button Down...please, get it right. Like saying Levi’s 5 “Zero” 1.
@sjoerd734 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for European shops that sell ocbd's *with extra long sleeves*, anyone?
@helmerdrake4 жыл бұрын
I believe eton makes longer sleeved versions
@sjoerd734 жыл бұрын
@@helmerdrake Thanks!
@goude194 жыл бұрын
Granqviststore a Swedish brand with a great collection, and an affordable prices compared to the quality they offer
@avtaarrooprai32822 жыл бұрын
Beautifull wonderfull very nice
@mkwak36692 жыл бұрын
Ministry of Supply shirts didn’t make the list… :-)
@harrypotterandelvisfan95432 жыл бұрын
4:28
@jimpalmer29813 жыл бұрын
Oxford cloth, not cotton.
@akingsfan874 жыл бұрын
costco!
@Javi_C4 жыл бұрын
:)
@subhasbhattАй бұрын
I ordered Alton Lane shirt based on your video. It was horrible. I am completely disappointed. As a result, it is safe not to follow any of your videos or advise in future. The shirt was very short and not worth the price and wait time. Please remove Alton Lane from your video.