How Your Button Up Shirts Should Fit | Button Down Fit Guide

To start comparing quotes and simplify insurance-buying, check out Policygenius: www.policygenius.com/modestman // Thanks to Policygenius for sponsoring this video!
This video will show you exactly how your button-up shirts (a.k.a., button downs or dress shirts) should fit. The button up shirt, including the dress shirt, is one of the most important pieces in any man’s wardrobe.
But, just like with any other piece of clothing, if your shirts don’t fit properly, they’re not going to do you any favors. You want to make sure your clothes are working for you, not against you. To that end, this guide will teach you exactly how a button down should fit.
#buttondownshirt #dressshirt #clothingfit
💥 Shop the Video
Blue shirt - shrsl.com/29y5k
My watch - geni.us/Yhhwnl (Amazon)
🎬 Related Videos
14 Wardrobe Essentials - • 14 Wardrobe Essentials...
Outdated Fashion "Rules" - • 9 Outdated Fashion Rul...
Shirt Alteration Guide - bit.ly/2ymwleS
🧍🏻My Sizes
I'm 5'6" with shoes on and about 123 lbs after dinner. I have a 34" chest; I usually wear XS tops and 28x28 pants (sometimes hemmed to 27").
📸 My Gear
Camera - geni.us/J626i
Lens - geni.us/5Ditjv
Shotgun Mic - geni.us/maFN
Desk Mic - geni.us/uCBKS
Mic Arm - geni.us/iPSr
Laptop - geni.us/zZlxFFb
Keyboard - geni.us/wDXb (Amazon)
🛠️ Resources
Income Reports - fulltimeblog.com/
How to Start a Fashion Blog - mdst.mn/safb
Blogging Tools - bit.ly/2ymUxO7
KZbin Music - share.epidemicsound.com/modest
👕 Style Guides
Free eBooks - mdst.mn/guide-pack
Premium Guide - mdst.mn/tmmsg
👉 Find Me On
Blog - www.themodestman.com
Podcast - fave.co/2vej94M
Instagram - / brockmcgoff
Twitter - / mcgoff
Facebook - / modestmanblog
FB Group - / modestmen
---
Contains affiliate links // Stay stylish!

[@blacktemplar14]

Thank you for these videos. I'm currently working on a healthy lifestyle, and so far I've lost about 40 pounds ( 6'4" and my starting weight was 330 pounds, down to 290 pounds). Most of my clothes are getting very baggy, and I'm going to need a completely new wardrobe. Just wanted to say thanks for all of your great tips!

[@pyesd7316]

you're welcome bro. good luck on your new style journey :)

[@isahjanski887]

This is actually really cool because I grew up with handmedowns and baggy clothes and I was questioning if a shirt was too small and it was actually a perfect fit I was just not used to it so thank you for the great content

[@robotsex111]

This was extremely helpful, thank you! My biggest problem was I always seemed to be stuck between a small and medium size, small was too tight, medium was too loose. So happy to hear the solution with the tailor. I didn't even know you could do that! Thanks Modest Man for the great content!

[@biohazard6482]

His voice just does the magic...love the content🤩

[@bsheehy94]

Thanks so much for this, everything I was looking for in one video.

[@ryanbenedict8436]

Great content! Straight-forward, easy to follow and timeless advice!

[@BrockMcGoff]

Thanks again to Policygenius for sponsoring this video! To start comparing quotes and simplify insurance-buying, check out Policygenius: www.policygenius.com/modestman

[@gradientO]

Maybe pin comments about sponsors like other KZbinrs

[@Nxrth2001]

Brock these videos are super useful, thank you so much!! Plz recommend items for the spring too!!

[@AbinashMeher999]

Thanks for this video Brock! Taking my shirts to be altered and this is an awesome guide

[@deedee8568]

Found that very helpful. Thanks.

[@GauravSingh-ku5xy]

Thanks man. This info is really helpful.

[@LetTheInferno]

Wow this is the exact video I needed.

[@user-ez8zn7hl2z]

Great info man, thank you so much!

[@spaghettiking7312]

Solid and chill content.

[@frankkuphal6428]

Thanks so much for this video，I learned a lot about shirts

[@davidalonzo1030]

Good info. Thank you

[@abdallahzahi]

Great video, thank you .

[@ivanfunk5187]

thank you，love the videos!

[@Gururaj90]

Thank you for yet another awesome video 😊

[@BrockMcGoff]

Thanks for watching!

[@duyanh7944]

Hi Brock, love your channel :)). Could you pls do a video about layering in the summer. Thank you!!

[@EscobarStyle]

I needed this a decade ago 🤦🏻‍♂️. Always great to hear as a reminder 👌🏼 Thanks

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Great video, Brock. Thanks for explaining the whole “button up” and “button down” thing.

[@lovemadeinjapan]

Now never ever buy button down again!

[@jryce]

Thanks!

[@jak4934]

Hey man love your vids. Very informative.

[@BrockMcGoff]

Thank you!

[@gtrain2024]

thanks mate- i always do my top button up when i wear a shirt and it’s real tight so i’m getting a bigger one

[@ebivjde1]

Thanks for this video. It is a lot of useful information that I can use to shop right the very next time. Hey, I am thinking about letting an online company dress me. I don’t know if you have made a video about that yet, but please make a video about the online dressing companies and if it is a bargain to use them and also if you use them how to make sure that your receive the right sized items in the box. Again Thanks

[@canadafree2087]

I always tuck, I never waste a chance to show off a nice belt. I found a modern slim fit works for me even though I have a bit of a belly; then it is a matter of picking collar and sleeve size. I did have a few shirts where the sleeves were too long, it left a lot of fabric above the elbows that looked bad.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Same here, including the belly LOL

[@dhinastyabdullah2692]

In my place, tucked in is "too formal"

[@spicykimchi1]

I buy the slim-fit shirts from H&M and the oxford shirts at Old Navy. The H&M ones are a bit tight in the midsection, and they're tight in the forearms when you roll up your sleeves... and I have some pretty girly-man forearms. The Old Navy ones have more room and a nice stretchy material, but these are oxford shirts, and some people might not like them.

[@seancannon591]

Hey Brock, love the videos! They've been a ton of help for me. I was wondering if you had a video or anything on garment care? I think that's been a big issue for me. My garments often get rough looking too soon. Keep up the good work!

[@BrockMcGoff]

Thanks! I don't, but that's a great idea. I'll put in on the list.

[@SirMopy]

Great suggestion! There are not many high quality videos with this topic here on YT. And knowing him he‘ll do an exceptional video! :)

[@izzythomas848]

Good call, Sean. I spend decent coin on my clothes now and have learned to take care of them, so they look better and last longer.

[@AlexanderDemergis]

My biggest issue is when I raise my arms, the armpit / armhole is very tight and not a lot of fabric to move and it pulls my entire shirt up. Well my arms are down it feels fine but it's uncomfortable in the armpit

[@_tristanluciano]

yes shoulder fit is so important

[@rajeshduggan]

Best video ❤

[@cristianrivero4467]

Hi, I'd like to know which is the brand and model of the dark denim-like casual shirt, it is one of the first three that you show in this video

[@Rajeshkumar-kk4gq]

Good Information Sir.

[@rookie9353]

I bought a dress shirt that fits kind of right but the collar is a bit weird. It’s a spread collar but it’s kinda wide and long. My build is kinda similar to yours (5’7, around 60kg). I feel like smaller and shorter collars are more proportional for shorter and thinner guys but I’m not sure if this is a rule of thumb lol what do you think about the collar height and width?

[@GeorgeGraves]

Is there a channel like this but for men with a larger frame that you can recommend?

[@joshdavila87]

How short is too short for a long sleeve casual shirt? Some of my long sleeves stop at my wrist or a little bit passed it but lifting or bending my arm shortens the sleeve by a lot.

[@ZoomZoom-ng6sn]

Watching this for the second time after a long while. Good video. Teaches you to look less of an idiot really.

[@yestothemax]

Where is what the pink dress shirt from?

[@ronaldbrown5842]

Hi Brock, my question is can you wear a tie with casual button up/down shirts? Also my body is a little weird. I'm small at top and big at the bottom, I know for pants I should probably wear pleats but I'm concerned because I have a few chinos but they don't have pleats and I'm wondering if I can add pleats to my chinos?

[@kennethzozobrado2217]

Somehow this video taught me how to find the right shirt and helped me study for my anatomy exam

[@priyanshsharma2108]

Please make a video on the proper fit of a formal pants

[@marcod.r.3299]

I always do the sitting test....when I try on a new shirt, first it has to look good standing up straight...then I sit down, lean back a little comfortably and check if it doesn´t pull on my chest or belly and so know it´s the right fit.....if it pulls have to size up.

[@Razzzordback]

I do the same test but sometimes when shirt look perfect in standing position after sitting there are some fit problems(of course body is not showing but the look is not that perfect that i want) . I go size up and here we go a sloppy look when i stand but perfect when i sitting 😅

[@juniorr2646]

Oh man, i found this Tommy hilfiger Shirts at Kohls That I love the Colors! BUT the medium Size fits me excep the neck part, i cannot button, my neck to big i guess. Then i try large size the neck i can bottom it but the sleeves too long. It goes pass my hands,

[@wallyg77]

If the shirt don't fit, poshmark it 👌🏻

[@joekinn69]

Brands vary so much.. I have look for a fitted style because if the shoulders & back fit ,the waist is too big.

[@Razzzordback]

One of my biggest problems is that when I stand or walk around, the shirt looks spectacular and fits me perfectly. But sometimes when I sit down it doesn't always turn out well. Those that have a bit more waist and chest do not present themselves so well in a standing position, but it is better when we are sitting.

[@WatchingNinja]

I think that's why he mentioned the middle of the ground fit.

[@ScooterBlia2]

Problem I run into with most off the shelf shirts are sleeve length and shoulder position. I'm the average overweight American build, 190lb and 5'8-5'9. While my neck, chest and stomach say I'm a large in most shirts, the shoulder and sleeve length for Larges are usually on the lengthier side, 35in+-. I'm about a 31.5in in sleeve length. This can be easily tailored to work, but sometimes it's hard to get the shoulders right. They're usually always a little to long over the shoulders. Untucked and more casual shirts usually end up working just fine as I wash them normally, so they end up shrinking to fit the shoulder. But dress shirts that I only dry clean usually always stay a little past the shoulder bone.

[@tomatopaste799]

Man, I relate to the baggy sleeves issue SO much. I think we have fairly similar body types (I’m 5’7”, 125 lbs.) and it’s probably the most common fit issue I have with off the rack shirts. I’ve encountered overly baggy sleeves with slim and regular fit shirts alike. I guess clothing companies expect us guys to have huge biceps no matter what ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@BrockMcGoff]

I feel ya. That’s a common alteration for me. Luckily, it’s easy and not too pricey.

[@lovemadeinjapan]

Shop at the ladies. Only inconvenience is the side of the buttons.

[@monobear4011]

@@lovemadeinjapan Would it look obvious that it's for ladies or it won't be noticeable?

[@lovemadeinjapan]

@@monobear4011 A connaisseur knows, but who cares? If it looks good it's great isn't it?

[@sonicccc323]

@@lovemadeinjapan lol, dont solve problems with problems. Working out is the way to go and it'll stick with you forever

[@techy6312]

Sir What is the length of your shirt in this video ?

[@sujayjanardhanan]

Hiii u r doing great

[@BrockMcGoff]

I'm doing well, how are you?

[@sujayjanardhanan]

@@BrockMcGoff great😇😇😍😍

[@viratgurung8138]

My perfect shoulder size is 17 inches, can I go for 17.5 inches

[@davidcraggs3770]

I don’t find wearing a long dress shirt untucked looks out of place. I do it a lot, fully buttoned up with or without a tie. A lot of UK fashion magazines or online outlets show this look.

[@priyanshsharma2108]

Plz show us your whole shirt collection

[@PresbianTier]

I'm one of the few guys that has arms too long. And the sucky thing is I'm only 5'10" so a lot of shirts are too short in the sleeve length.

[@persianwingman]

3:33 TBH I don’t see much wrong wearing that shirt untucked, arms are a bit billowy but the length is ok IMO. I had a shirt hemmed by two inches that I thought was too long and it just felt weird it being a bit shorter.

[@geraltzrivi4]

Брок, хорошее у тебя произношение, приятно слушать. Как всегда "like".

[@rogercaughell4282]

Gold! (Got a laugh out of you forcing yourself to do some 'adulting'.)

[@vannaeldwijk7075]

Shop Massimo Dutti for your body type. It is like Zara but more upmarket.

[@madegreat2323]

Do you know any more brands that sell casual button downs?

[@BrockMcGoff]

Most brands sell casual button downs these days. The trick is finding a brand that works for your build.

[@md_sid]

Hi brock!

[@wojtekimbier]

If you have trouble finding shirts that fit on a budget then go to second-hand shops. All of the best and best-fitting shirts I have were bought used. Cheap clothing brands just never fit well on my body

[@najad__7719]

Hi

[@tjed1071]

Everything look good on slims guys like you, make a video for overweight guys, I know most of them struggle to look good with their clothes.

[@AIRFORCEFREAK1]

One day I might wear these shirts again. One day...

[@johnnyguitar7921]

do you wear a size S or M , modet man?

[@BrockMcGoff]

I usually go for XS if it's available. Sometimes a S will work, but never M.

[@Rajeshkumar-kk4gq]

Am 5:5 Height Sir. Plz Suggest Dress with Image and In India Recommend Brand's Name's Plz If you know anything....it will help me lot

[@md_sid]

When to wear socks & when not to wear them & how many types of socks are there? Thanks!

[@BrockMcGoff]

I have a video on that very topic...go check it out!

[@md_sid]

@@BrockMcGoff thanks for replying brock love u so much!🤩😎

[@jererasanen7410]

If you have oversized shirts you can put a sweater over it (v-neck works the best imo). However make sure the fabric doesn't bunch up there 😉

[@ianflem6489]

👏👏👏👍

[@Ivvyscholar]

Where do you usually buy your clothes from?

[@BrockMcGoff]

Check out themodestman.com for all my buying guides 👍🏻

[@jonny9425]

you have a nice haircut

[@tbfit7808]

It’s too hard to find nice shirts like this for big guys

[@BrockMcGoff]

Must be nice 😅

[@tbfit7808]

@@BrockMcGoff nooooo LOL great content!

[@touch_master721]

I always have problems with short sleeves, are you kidding me ?!

[@muslimbekturabekov1130]

Does anyone know how old is he?

[@Year-tk9ii]

Brock, your mic is set and located better if not best in this video. In ur other videos ur mic is an eyesore.

[@magictomatoe]

wow i just feel like I was attacked. I've been wearing these things wrong my entire life

[@joekinn69]

Hard to find a good fit,I always need a fitted /slim fit

[@BrockMcGoff]

Same here!

[@novanoskillz4151]

here’s my problem. im 6’5 232lbs very athletic/muscular. shirt sleeves are always wayyyy to short and its the same with pants. 😭😭

[@cue_khb]

Try bespoke.

[@s.s.6135]

i look so big in one lol

[@qwertyqart]

here's the problem, shirts that fit at my belly, all are larger for my rest of the body parts, while if fit shirt to all parts, at the wrist, collar, shoulder, then I look like a pregnant.

[@stevew4079]

I’m with you. I don’t think I’ll get shirts that fit unless I get them tailor made or lose a lot of weight

[@sujayjanardhanan]

I think im the first

[@entertainme7523]

👎

[@davidalonzo1030]

Root canal. Lol

[@Ferien7]

This advice only works for people of standard sizes. For weightlifters, it’s impossible to get a good fit for any length of time. You’ll outgrow your shirt in a matter of months

[@absp2006]

Cladwell was almost the PolicyGenius of clothing... Until it went paid subscription.

[@BrockMcGoff]

It’s a tough business model without an expensive, high margin product. Plus, everyone needs insurance. Very few people seek out professional styling services.

[@Harshawardhan_solanke]

I will always prefer a shirt that is slightly tight rather than wearing a loose shirt, I personally fucking hate loose anything , if you are physically fit why not show it off, Ladies lust over a guy who is physically fit and wears a fitted any thing😘

[@Milofchg]

Most guys will have issues around the stomach if you have body fat around the stomach. Short guys athletic or overweight will have a hard time to find a decent fitting shirt. Solution.... Lose that belly fat

[@lovemadeinjapan]

Solve that by ditching the car. Don't work around it with weird looking shirts. Up to 20km commute: bicycle. Over 20km commute: look for another job. Enough jobs at the moment.

[@rayjh6938]

Ruined by the commercial intro

[@dapperdan9573]

I have a question what do you mean by perfect fit air quotes I mean like are you stating that that we are that those was that can't afford those proper fitting shirts are you saying that we all can't afford proper fitting shirts is that what you're stating cuz it sounds like you're stating that in order to have a good dress shirt it has to fit you like a glove there can be no imperfections and also love someone just likes the style of a of a shirt that's very baggy and loose what if someone just likes that I mean what's wrong with that does it not fit your standards for clothing cuz it Doesn't that's good cuz you have impossible standard another mental KZbinrs just like you have impossible standards that none of us can follow like come on get that out of here everyone knows that people like you are wealthy you're wealthy you can afford stuff like this you can afford your proper fitting shirts near really well taylored suits near fancy Taylor do you know it's like to not be able to afford a good fitting shirt no I don't know this from experience because I'm not that unfortunate but I I speak for most of the people here that don't like you kind of people that don't like you kind of people sorry autocorrect you have the problem is men like you need to seek perfection in everything like what I mean by everything I mean by everything everything you need to see you're soon as to be perfect you're sure is a perfect your tires be perfect everything cannot be flawed what's wrong with those flaw designs I see what you're saying but these are impossible standards that no one can live by but you you put you put People Like Us in these impossible standards okay I don't speak for majority of people but I speak from a majority people that enjoyment sell KZbinrs but men like you you force others to fall and also you don't seem to understand the climate is a thing like for instance if it's hot out should you really wear an ocbd Oxford cloth button down when it's hot tell me when it's 93 degrees should you wear one I don't care what you say this rule of leaves up no that's not how that works look look not everyone lives in in a climate you're like you sorry started a bit here's the problem you think that you don't live in the south you live in California where it's mostly cool granted I know it does get hot over there but it's mostly cool over there mostly warm okay yeah the problem is here's a problem with almonds all of you have in common you won't as viewers to have this impossible standard have this impossible idea of what a suit should look like and not everyone has the means to afford that okay not everyone can afford fancy clothing I'm able to but I speak for people that can't I don't have that problem and I can't speak for people that have very little means to be well-dressed I'm fortunate I admit I can't relate to those people that can just barely afford anything and you do and you do realize that that's not the main staple of men's wear dude yes promise men like you and other people like you think that we should follow an impossible standard that no one can follow it's like no one can follow this only people like you are able to do it because you have the means people like me have the means to dress well okay no one else can humble yourself because no one else can follow such a standard you know why you know why I don't follow your standard and your rules because they're stupid they're bogus they're ridiculous they're preposterous who believes that mostly standards are real who cares how your tie looks or how your shirt looks how your suit looks all they care about is that you're wearing clothes doesn't that matter okay look you're such an impossible standard that none of us can follow it I don't intentionally follow it because I know it's dumb it's a dumb standard and you know that it is you just want people to buy more products so you get more money money money money that's what's wrong with you people it's always all about money you don't let you don't admit this and I and I know I shouldn't be passing judgment on you but people like you were just so annoying but I like your stuff so I'm still going to watch you but just who can follow such a standard let me know in the comments who can follow such a standard and I know some of you people tend to tend to be very quick in the comments there so bye

[@DanielGennaro]

Why am I hearing about a policy for up to 2 plus minutes into this video ??? What does that have to do with policy? Sorry but ridiculous. Won’t get my subscription

[@Tom_Swift]

8:41 appreciate the video but this shirt is objectively too small in length on you. not sure how tall you are but that cut makes you look 5'2" some serious charlie chapman vibes going on. Sorry not trying to be rude, just calling it out for what it is.

[@fuckoff187]

Wow policy genius, you're in Ben Shapiros league :p