The Best Pistol Caliber Carbines For The Money (PCC)

[@exprokicker-x7646]

I'm 66 years old and was shooting a .410 over and under when I was 5. We have come a long way.........stay safe my 2nd Amendment friends!!!!

[@kalebporter1529]

The first gun my dad bought me to be "mine" was a single shot 410 at 8 years old, 12 years ago. It was a good gun to learn on. I think he got it for me because his 12 gauge kicked me into the ground.

[@Adroit1911]

.410 over/under awesome 👍

[@1fast72nova]

I'm 45 and my first gun was a bolt action 22. A box of 50 was 50 cents and I'd work for 50 cents a day and buy a box at the local gas station. Shoot 50 a day. My friend had a 3 round semi auto 410 for his first gun... We couldn't really afford much ammo. We were what 7yo maybe just walking around shooting stuff. Now I feel like the government doesn't want me to have a 22 pistol.

[@dustinogle9522]

I shot my first deer at 6 with Stevenson single shot 20 ga

[@JR-ld1et]

We’ve almost fallen back to the sticks lol

[@stevepoe3667]

I purchased a new Ruger PC carbine 9mm a couple years ago switched mag well out to accept Glock mags the only issue I have with the ruger is that I need some more ammo.

[@carlwoods5256]

Concur... the stock Ruger mags got hung up in the well, but the MagPul Glock mags work flawlessly. It is ammo hungry and will drain the Glock mags all day long.

[@s00-x2h]

2:17 Extar EP9 6:01 Freedom Ordnance FX-9, Grand Power Stribog SP9A1, CZ Scorpion 6:59 CMMG Banshee 11:10 Sig MPX 14:24 HK SP5K

[@DoitYHWH]

Thank you!!

[@stayfierce1724]

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[@62dobie]

No FoxTrot 9?

[@DasGonz13]

The internet appreciates you

[@injuredoutdoorsman9011]

No B&T???

[@Ben-py2xq]

Ames, Iowa is too hot in the summer and too cold during the winter. Love that you support the local community! Wish I could've shot with you while at ISU.

[@ultimatelv27]

So glad that Honest Outlaw included Extar EP9 on this list. Awesome gun for the money. Lightweight, accurate, awesome trigger and affordable.

[@melancholydawg]

I opted for the Extar EP9 a while back due to price point. While I would like a higher end PCC I couldn't justify the 3X cost for my use. I have been extremely happy with the EP9. Runs great and extremely accurate. If you are on the fence, the EP9 is a great way to go 🇺🇸

[@richardgee9157]

Had my EP9 for a couple months now, and I can honestly say that I LOVE IT!! I thought about going with the high end stuff, but I couldn’t justify the prices. After shooting the EP9, I’m glad I chose it!

[@dgblubz244]

I hear so much good about the EP9. Ordered mine about a week ago it should come in this week! I can't wait to shoot it.

[@taylorsessions4143]

@@dgblubz244 what do you think of it?

[@dgblubz244]

@@taylorsessions4143 pretty good I've shot about 200 rounds through it so far and it has performed well. Actually going to shoot another 100-150 rounds through this weekend. No malfunctions yet, in my opinion the trigger feels absolutely amazing and you can dump a clip extremely quick. Only thing is I wish charging handle was on the right side and i wish the stock was adjustable. For what I paid I'm very satisfied so far, can't wait to shoot it more

[@taylorsessions4143]

@@dgblubz244 right on, you never hear anyone complaining about this little gun, I'll have to try to pick one up!

[@dtruth5988]

Love my Extar EP9. Although I had one small issue with it.I was able to send it in to Extar and had it back fixed within a week or two. The gun is so underrated to me. The Honest Outlaw is the only big KZbin gun channel that gives it props.

[@nancyhayes5905]

What was the issue?

[@dtruth5988]

@@nancyhayes5905 An out of spec striking insert on hammer was identified. This was causing the firing pin issues.

[@sdebeaubien]

Bought my EP9 used, off GB, came with a broken trigger. Took HO's advice, put all steel FCG in and it's tacking nails now! 250 rds and counting... Love it. Won't ever get into the HK end of things, way off my price point. Do like the Banshee though, they can be had fairly reasonably it would appear.

[@Coopdaddy70]

I built out my CZ Scorpion to include a suppressor and red dot and wouldn't trade it for any other PCC. Love the tack driving capability of it. Coupled with hush ammo, there is nothing like the clang of the BCG followed by the thud of the round striking down range. Love the channel and the reviews. Thanks!

[@PR-it2ys]

Can I ask what you added to your Scorpion? I am on the verge of buying one but I don’t know what I would need to add to turn it into my dream PCC.

[@Coopdaddy70]

@@PR-it2ys I added the Sig Sauer Romeo 5 red dot. HB Industries CZ Scorpion M LOK Handguard, hand stop, folding stock, mag release, safety selector and the lug adaptor. Lot's of stuff from that website. A magpul quick release sling and attachments and grip.

[@manaboiman]

I do wanna get a cz scorpion micro k but can’t decide between cz or banshee? I like the ergonomics and style of scorpion

[@jimmym1782]

@@manaboiman scorpion

[@robertdennis550]

CMMG makes some very nice PCC's. I ran my first USPSA PCC competition today with my Resolute 300. She purred like a kitten and was a tack driver. It was almost like I couldn't miss if I tried. I was very impressed and she is a soft shooter. This is quickly becoming my favorite gun! Shootability, reliability, and a decent price point what's not to like!

[@johng753]

I wanted to purchase a 9-mm PCC so I could use the same ammo and magazines as my GLOCKS. When I called every gun store within 100 miles no store had a CMMG Banshee available that I could look at. Spending $1500+ is major investment for me. Your channel is a valuable source of information and after watching several videos I decided to purchase a 9-mm Banshee direct from CMMG. I figured there is so much demand for the gun that I could easily sell it if I didn’t like it. Never had so much fun at the outdoor range. I got some steel targets and now I’m on my way to becoming a marksman!

[@victorowens9150]

I bought the 10mm Banshee. Love it.😊

[@82lowe36id]

Scorpion is what I went with and it has been great for years.

[@mechveteran01]

Thats what I went with too, I love it. Such a great gun

[@kungfulender8733]

@@mechveteran01 is it polymer?

[@mechveteran01]

@@kungfulender8733 the upper and lower receivers are

[@markbrandenburg]

The Ruger PC Charger is the best value in the market. It’s half the price of the Banshee 9mm and 1/3 the price of the MPX. It’s a metal upper, a takedown, and accepts Glock mags as well.

[@user-pf6wl4hv5j]

Sub 2k

[@Dr.ButtcheeksPHD]

Is that technically a pistol though? I live in Maryland and it's extremely hard to legally buy a pistol but anyone over 18 can buy a rifle or shotgun with just the standard background check. To buy a handgun you have to do all sorts of classes and get licenses and stuff and I just want a good 9mm carbine to keep in the house I feel super uncomfortable not having a firearm. I was looking at the high point 9mm carbine mainly because of the price point

[@user-pf6wl4hv5j]

@@Dr.ButtcheeksPHD not sure which one you’re talking about sub 2000 is technically a rifle I believe all the other ones can be gotten with either pistol or rifle receivers

[@kllaskullz]

@@Dr.ButtcheeksPHD pc charger is a pistol, I’m pretty sure the 2k is a pistol also since it shoots 9 or like what the guy above said

[@barkeater9606]

Ruger should make it in 10mm

[@SwiftGQ]

Owned the EP9 for 3 years or so and had 3-4k rounds through it and still functions perfectly. Highly recommend also very light weight which is what I want from a SBR style pistol.

[@guyfoxyinc.8042]

What mods do you have on it?

[@djdev3077]

I have the Brigabde Bm-9 echo edition with binary trigger for a year now, no complaints, happy customer.

[@andrettski8686]

Your title of the vid is crystal clear as was the content, thank you. I don't own any of your testers here but I have a few others that I enjoy. I also think PCC's are a blast and are a great truck gun or home defense.

[@johnrambo2876]

Love the Banshee! CMMG has AR mags with 9mm internals so you can run your 9mm Banshee upper with standard AR lowers. One lower with 3 - 4 different uppers makes for a lighter load to haul to the range 😎👍

[@flawless1up]

i need more uppers

[@diversify210]

So glad to be looking and videos and researching firearms that Ive never been able to own here in California. I will be saying good bye to California for good in 2 weeks. Ive already gotten rid of most of my guns, and am in a hurry to start my collection with some new stuff. My wife and I purchased a 12.3 acre property just outside of Fort Worth, something we would have never been able to afford here in California. She and my kids have been there since August, but I stayed behind to finish up all of our affairs. In 2 weeks though, I will be hitting the road to my new home. I'm so fucking excited. Be kind to my family and I Texas. No need to leave blue state politics behind in California, because I have never had them.

[@AzayBae]

Have fun man, you can carry as soon as you show up without having to go pay the lawman too as of Wednesday!

[@sakster2584]

That is wonderful. So happy for you and your family. Keep TX bright RED. One day for me and mine too I hope. We are stuck in Seattle for now.

[@Gilgamesh347]

Good luck, brother. I just left Kalifornia also. Was there for 13 years. Ridiculous Democrat-controlled lunacy - anti 2A. So happy to be back in the USA (NM in my case). First thing I did was buy a bunch of 30rd mags, lol.

[@docequis9796]

Stop voting for Democrats please

[@JonSarles]

@@docequis9796 he said he doesn't vote for Democrats...

[@davelaneve2446]

I have a CMMG Banshee in 45 ACP. Put in a TriggerTech Diamond trigger. I run 450 SMC handloads through it, 1400+ fps. Is by far my favorite PCC.

[@davidnichols8952]

Pistol caliber carbines are something I want to get more into. I bought the beretta cx4 storm in 9mm several years ago and really like it.

[@StormbornJKU]

I’d love to get the banshee but I just can’t justify the coin for it when I haven’t seen a single bad thing about the EP9. That’s what I plan on going with.

[@JohnScheppler]

The Extar EP9 is in my opinion the best bang for the buck. Thanks to you for reviewing it.

[@LePeterK123]

Ruger PCC *

[@OFCINC]

he has a extar i wish he added it

[@timothytikker3834]

His reviews last year are why I got it -- my first firearm. It has always been a pleasure to work with. BTW the price went up to $449 last year (just before I bought mine). Still, the price is as low as it is because it's sold direct to the public by the manufacturer: no middlemen. So that low price in no way reflects a lower quality of manufacture.

[@afgh1408]

By far my favorite gun.

[@scottschreiber6008]

I got my extar ep9 because of him. Sooooo much fun to shoot and have no issues so far.

[@rogeliomendiola7177]

Kinda disappointed mine didn’t make your list. I didn’t have any firearms for like 40 years and picked up a Ruger PC Charger last year. I really think it’s fun.

[@Southernguitar74]

I just bought the Extar EP9 (being delivered this week) because of your review. For the money I figured "why not?" I have a ton of Glock mags and 9mm ammo. Looking forward to trying out my first PCC. Thanks man.

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

How is it? Lived up to expectations?

[@augustusboniao3419]

@@extragoogleaccount6061 z

[@5Minuteman]

As a newb in the guntube world who watches everybody's stuff I just gotta say, your videos strike a great balance between being interesting without being flashy, and delivering practical information. So many channels have clickbait crap about how everything's either the best ever or the worst or is it a glock beater, but when I click on your video about "what's the best PCC", I feel like I come away knowing a reliable summary of the subject. This was my third time coming back to this video. If you want to up it another level, please index your videos in description.

[@icantsaywhat]

I like my cz scorpion carbine so much I just went and bought the 7.5 inch pistol best decision in a while. Definitely my vote for best 9mm pcc. Though I have never shot an H&K unfortunately no point since I can’t get a full auto one, at least not without spending close to 50-60 K

[@chrislukasak8530]

Ya the 7" is the best version of the CZ Scorp.

[@jaredmackey4511]

Thinking about getting one myself. Looking for something that can fit in a bag for trips. Can’t make up my mind on whether to get the 7 3/4 inch or the micro for the purpose though.

[@detroitvseverybody3813]

@@jaredmackey4511 Id reccomend the 7, if you want it to be compact you can get one of those wire push in 'braces' and its pretty damn compact

[@jmduncan01]

With the CZ Scorpion, if you buy all the goodies off HBIndustries and add a timney trigger.....you got something. Really wonderful fully configured. Not so much out of the box, but still useable.

[@bryy2053]

@@jaredmackey4511 definitely get the micro. I had the carbine for a while and liked it a lot at first, but after a few hundred I started feeling it was simply too big for 9mm, being basically as big and same weight as an AR 15 and without the power. Plus with most 9mm loads all the powder is burnt in around 7 inches, so the bullet is actually slowing down before it ever leaves the barrel on the carbine. Still a cool gun but i I wished I went with the pistol. After about 1500 rds it had issues and went back to cz and needed to be replaced. Cz was great, quick, and offered me msrp credit/refund since the hb model carbine was no longer made. The micro just came out, so it was a no brainer and I got a few mags to make up the difference. The issues with the carbine was a blessing in disguise because the micro is much more in its element, and its highly mobile, fits in a backpack, under a car seat, in a drawer, whatever. With the hb ak style safety, trigger spring kit, flat faced metal trigger shoe, extended CH, extended mag release, for me its perfect and for short money. Just my few cents and some considerations. Be good be safe.

[@danbarnes7633]

I absolutely love my PSA AK-V and PSA AR-V. Uses scorpion mags or PSA's 35 rounders. Mine have been super reliable. In my AK-V for $800 and my AR-V for $700, so you could have both for the price of the Banshee. Both have last round bold hold open and are undeniably cool.

[@eddieo7660]

Most underrated comment on here!🤙🤙

[@Seasniffer1969]

Well u definitely bought a release day ak-v because they're like 1200 bucks now for a straight blowback design.

[@CharlieBoyQ]

@@Seasniffer1969 they’re on sale at the moment for 900-1000ish and they come with a psa dagger. I almost bought one but opted for the AK-P with a folding stock instead. The psa Ak lineup is amazing for the price.

[@MrGeeMoney1983]

I have a Foxtrot Mike FM9 and I love it. Kind of like the FX9 and Banshee, very reasonably priced. I spent 579$ on mine and got a Magpul grip, SI angled foregrip, 33 round glock mag and SI changing handle and was sub 650$ all in!

[@suzipouncey4286]

love my Foxtrot Mike FM9 i run the PA ACSS 1X6 and its a nail driver at 100yards

[@ElmCreekSmith]

I picked up a Stribog SP9A1 with an SBT brace & 3 of the original straight 30-round magazines all in the factory hard case. I slapped a SIG Romeo5 red dot low mount & a MagPul Picatinny sling loop for my single-poisling. Additionally, I ordered 3 of the new curved 30-round magazines;. I was looking at a B&T, but I could have bought 2 more Stribogs for the same money.

[@steimystein4368]

I have a Ruger PC Carbine Chassis Model and a Foxtrot Mike 8.5" FM-9. Both use Glock mags.

[@bradbilski]

Just picked up an ARV-9 by PSA for $700 and it’s amazing. I’ve run 300ish rounds with no issues. 8” barrel with a nice brace. Great for the money and useful.

[@bondoc5711]

CZ Scorpion for the WIN! I absolutely love my 7 incher with the F5 MFG Brace!

[@glennmcgee6705]

I just ordered 1 this morning

[@jacobtimmerman5122]

The depressed laugh when talking about price of 9 vs 556 is way too relatable.. love my banshee. Cmmg is a great company as well.

[@bensears7499]

10mm banshee looks good

[@steveosoprano9078]

Love my banshee too!

[@georgegrant5737]

What’s more important than even the gun is being able to get ammunition 9 mm has been readily more available than 223 NATO?

[@jacobtimmerman5122]

@@georgegrant5737 that’s why I got the 9mm instead of the 10mm

[@jacobtimmerman5122]

@sssparky76 luckily I had a better experience, they weren’t quick on emails but it was during the crazy times, ended up getting taken care of decently quick considering the rush they were in.

[@shawnwillis7561]

If you can get a grinder, welder and drill, you can buy mp5 parts and build one for around 1,500. There's good build series on yt. I've built a mp5 and an mp5sd. I even did the barrel headspacing and pinning myself for the first time on the SD. You will need a shop press for that, but if your willing to invest in tools, you can build guns for half the price of their retail cost and it feels awesome shooting guns YOU made.

[@brazybeast346]

Imma learn soon and invest and the tools

[@shawnwillis7561]

@@brazybeast346 if you got questions hit me up. Happy to help if u want.

[@vincentvega3756]

You sir are my hero. Im working on my 1st P80 but your living the dream.

[@steffeness1]

Q is, for the money rate #1, Banchee, Sig MPX Copperhead or CZ Scorpion?

[@lancecahill5486]

You might have some surprise visits from the ATF too!

[@Gutsy77]

Got myself a fx-9 10” a couple months ago and love it after about 550 rounds. Zero failures🇺🇸

[@teflondonii9298]

That's nice to know. Thx. I just got mine with an 8" barrel and haven't gotten around to shooting it yet.👍🏾

[@Gutsy77]

@@teflondonii9298 I recommend getting out there and treating yourself to a nice afternoon of shooting sometime soon. Bring friends to show it off🇺🇸 I put a red dot on mine and love it!

[@johnt4060]

I like the Ruger PC. Reasonable price and genuinely good engineering as well as being use in law enforcement in certain restrictive areas… Can’t complain

[@mitch8710]

I love the ruger platform too can’t go wrong and I’m accurate with it. But I do crave the ability to swap different uppers. That said… you can by a full size and pc charger for the price of most ar platform 9 😂

[@johnt4060]

@@mitch8710 very true, my biggest selling point the Ruger had was interchangeable mag wells so I can use magazines that I already have, awesome idea IMO

[@chrisgullett4332]

To be honest I'd take a cheap MAC 10 or MAC 11 over anything in this video. The MAC 10 and MAC 11 have one thing that make them more compact, they are grip loaded. So even attaching a tube and brace to a MAC still makes it much more compact than anything on this list. Not to mention they are cheap, super reliable, cheap magazines, pre threaded barrels to easily attack suppressors, fake suppressors, barrel extensions etc. So if it is just about an actual pistol that is high capacity and on the smaller side even with a brace attacked, it is hard to beat a MAC 10 or MAC 11. Just look at how much more compact a MAC with a brace is compared to everything else in this video. Hands down, the MAC wins. Also, besides the AR15 in the video, there are way more aftermarket parts for the MAC than anything else in the video, and you can swap uppers on the MAC just like you can with an AR15.

[@johnt4060]

@@chrisgullett4332 new drinking game: take a shot every time you see “MAC” in that comment lol 😂

[@silverstallion4634]

I just picked one of those up! Haven't shot it yet!

[@johnchilds6383]

I have ran well over 5K rounds through my ExtarEP9, and have had no major problems. Best budget PCC ever in my opinion!

[@charleesims4518]

Pretty solid review. I have a scorpion, Stribog gen 2, the EP9, and PSA AR-V. All very solid pcc’s for sure. My scorpion is the most modified(and my fav), but I was really impressed with the EP9! Honestly I thought it was going to be a bit of a lemon, but it was the best bang for the buck! Probably my least favorite, but I really like it. It’s a really close race between the Stribog and the AR-V. The AR-V uses the paddle mag release which I like and of course the AR controls. The Stribog has great factory flip up sights(peep). Like when you flip them up, the sound of them snapping into place, ahhh! Just great quality! Also it has small notched sights when the sights and in the down position. You’ll over look them unless you know they are there. Very well done Grand Power! Plus I think the Stribog probably has the best trigger(factory) out of my bunch. Comes with a threaded barrel and thread protector from the factory. I’ve been running a silencerco octane 9 on it and it’s been GREAT! I’d recommend all of the ones I have to anyone. Just consider what your budget is and sort of stick to that range! Happy shooting!

[@g3attack]

I own 11 pcc's MPX is pretty sweet. I paid 900 for it Gen1 8 inch. Absolutely Love it. I own 3 versions of the MP5 though.

[@RevGunn-jq3cq]

My Extar EP9 cost $319 before shipping a few years back. I stopped counting rounds at 3000. It is a fantastic value

[@nvkulk]

@G-Shack 1970 easy homey

[@RevGunn-jq3cq]

@G-Shack 1970 sorry English is my third and worst language

[@oscartalbot7496]

Me2

[@29rca]

I think he meant $419.00. Own one myself and love it. Its purpose is really a range toy IMO and if I am going to spend some real money its going to be in 6.8spc.

[@RevGunn-jq3cq]

@@29rca nope! Not when I bought mine. I was experiencing a small dilemma at the time, buy a micro Roni for $249 and put a $500 Glock 17 in it or spend $70 more and get a ready to go braced pistol. That was pretty much a no brainer, the big issue was actually buying it online because they would sell out in minutes. I alway thought they were under priced by $200

[@danielm6049]

I checked the date of the video when I heard "9mm cheaper than 5.56mm" in southern Illinois it's been cheaper to feed ARs. I've had a scorpion for several years and love it, even though it's the carbine version. Talked to a guy that loads pcc optimized 9mm and was very pleased, hitting old soda bottles full of water (my version of recycling) was much more impressive than with standard ball.

[@tthompson4768]

I want one in 10mm but they cost...

[@troya1495]

I'd love to see a rifle version of this including the Ruger PC carbine "16.

[@Cbockhoff]

I would like to see something other than pistols in the pistol caliber “carbine” review… calling them PCC’s is just agreeing with the ATF that they are really SBR’s

[@troya1495]

@@Cbockhoff kinda why I ask for rifles. Nj is a comi state lol

[@hollyfoxThe]

@@Cbockhoff One would think that the community videographers would know by now not to shoulder them on camera. The one argument for them is they enable disabled people the ability to fire a pistol. Why poke the bear?

[@nickt423]

@@troya1495 I don’t think you understand what he was saying. This was a PCC review. That basically means rifles or SBRs that use a “pistol cartridge.” I would assume the Ruger PCC and the Ruger Charger we’re eligible here.

[@praetorian1rsb]

@@troya1495 same here in NY

[@matthewcampbell6589]

My Stribog SP9A3 has been absolutely flawless. Nothing to complain about and i just enjoy the look

[@nfavor]

I have the Stribog gen3 and absolutely love it. It's an amazing gun for the money. You need to use the reinforced magazines that come with the gun but when you do, I haven't had a single issue.

[@marcusgoodwin7205]

I've had no issues with the curved mags too. Runs flawless

[@NuBeKiNg34]

the best part of this video is that this is like a sampling of the PCC market. K-USA KP9, B&T, Stribog, PSA AKV, Ruger charger. the market on PCCs is huge and i havent found one i havent liked shooting.

[@paststeve1]

Thanks HO! I learned quite a bit watching your channel over the years, but this video is definitely in the top 5 you have produced. I can't wait to see the unveiling of the new ink.

[@stansenter2660]

I bought the GP Stribog SP9A3, a few years ago, finally breaking 1k rounds, reinforced straight mags, no hiccups but I used all FMJs of whatever I can get(thanks Brandon, FJB), happy camper. Looking to get more mags of the curved variety when financing isn't an issue.

[@robertb9461]

I've had a Freedom Ordnance FX9 8" for over a year, very happy. I did have feeding issues at first, sent in and they resolved the problem...only took about 2 weeks to send in and get it back. So great customer service as well. Since then haven't had issues with it. Great to match with a Glock, as is many other PCCs that take Glock mags.

[@badtolz2122]

I considered that also. Went with CZ.

[@badtolz2122]

@Jacob Lucas I have a bunch of Glock mags too and got an Aero Survival Rifle. Mostly because it's pretty unique and I didn't know anybody that had one. Fun to shoot.... takes Glock mags.

[@robertb9461]

@Jacob Lucas Yeah I don't remember what the issue with mine was. They replaced the BCG and did something else. But the communication was nice. They emailed me through the process and when done they sent me a video of the gun operating. It has run through cheap ammo, reloads. I haven't put steel or aluminum through it however. Fun gun, everyone loves shooting it.

[@lexwaldez]

Daughter is a lefty so Beretta CX4 Storm it was; ambi isn't that easy to find. She's loving it. Threw a little Holosun AEMS on it for her first red dot. Happy with it so far.

[@lukeywalsh]

Another great Honest Outlaw review. CMMG's delayed blowback system is great. Hoping for a review of full length PCCs like high end JP (GMR 15 or JP-5) and budget ones like base model Ruger PCC ( $400-$430 pre pandemic). I got the Ruger with MLOK for $508. Love it, but the cheaper base model is noticeably lighter.

[@steffeness1]

CMMG is an AR style. I think you mean the MP5, SP5 & copies like the PTR

[@michaeltrue]

Love your reviews, I start here first, then overwhelm myself with dozens of other videos and checking in with my local range. At the end of the day, I am loving my CMMG Banshee. Thanks for your help!

[@qceaz11]

I've DEFINITELY been waiting for this video to drop

[@DocDixon]

I didn’t know I was but I am.

[@r.t.hannah9575]

I have the CMMG Banshee in 9mm and boy is it a hoot to shoot with suppressor. Love it. Considered getting a 10mm or 300blk, but I already have a SBR in 300blk. And 10mm is just too expensive to have fun with for me right now.

[@frodoteabaggins666]

I think I love my Extar EP9 more every time I shoot it. Super reliable, light as a feather, no recoil, dead nuts accurate and they recommend you shoot steel ammo. What’s not to like?

[@taylorsessions4143]

That steel ammo doesn't jam it up?

[@BaritoneMonkey]

@@taylorsessions4143 why would that make you dislike that haha

[@taylorsessions4143]

@@BaritoneMonkey that doesn't make me dislike it, I'm just asking how it handles the steel ammo. If it handles it will that's super impressive!

[@BaritoneMonkey]

@@taylorsessions4143 oh I see haha. Well, the manufacturer actually straight up recommends Tula steel case by name (and don't recommend any other brand specifically IIRC), so I'd guess it works flawlessly with it! Just ordered an Extar EP9 today - if only my local range allowed steel case!

[@taylorsessions4143]

@@BaritoneMonkey congrats, I wish I had ordered one when they were still cheap and available!

[@derekh3577]

I love the shot of you talking with the reflection of all those nice PCC's in them as you glance down...

[@cliffordwright9824]

The Ruger pc charger 9mm is a excellent pistol as well, also can run Glock mags, Nice video Guy's

[@zgennaro]

This is why I like Sage Dynamics. I am fortunate to be able to shoot quite a bit of 9mm. If you plan on shooting many thousands of rounds a year you best stick with B&T, the Scorpion, or maybe a gen 3 mpx. Really recommend against an AR9, banshee included. Wanted to love my Bog. Pooped the bed after 2k rounds with random FTE. Serial # 3xxx so post recall. Shooting suppressed 100% of the time really brings out weaknesses in the various platforms.

[@markbrandt504]

Agree with everything you said. I think the kel tec sub 2000 belongs in the budget low quality cheap parts but still a great gun for the money category

[@injuredoutdoorsman9011]

It’s cool that it folds in half, but that just means you can’t run any optics on it… Although I think their newest one (or a prototype shown at SHOT Show 2020) twists somehow so you can run optics and still fold it. All that being said, it has an atrocious trigger on it. My Mosin had a better trigger than that thing (& the one I tried was a Gen2)

[@ercly9382]

@@injuredoutdoorsman9011 Check out Red Lions' offering for the rail that twists accessories out of the way of the closing feature.

[@TheJoshgacks]

The magazine placement precludes running extended mags if you want to go prone with the gun. Also agree with what others say about the optics situation.

[@DarlingEbony]

@@injuredoutdoorsman9011 Actually, you can run optics that move out of the way when you fold it. M-Carbo and Midwest Industries (I think that's where I got mine) makes them.

[@DarlingEbony]

I love my KelTec Sub 2000. I have both the 9mm and the 40 S&W.

[@mitchgarbeno3788]

You did me dirty by not pulling in the Sig MPX Copperhead. It’s underrated especially since the Gen2 is out and they fixed some of the problems with Gen1. People can say all they want about the 3.5 inch barrel but this PCC runs and it one compact mother trucker.

[@jamesalexander2401]

I looked at and wanted a CMMG but it was just a bit out of my price range, so I went with the PSA AK-V. Although it’s not an AR style variant in my opinion the AK-V is a worthy candidate for the PCC category.

[@semiauto3148]

How much was the cmmg? Thinking of going with that. Looks good and takes glock mags

[@jamesalexander2401]

@@semiauto3148 CCMG is an excellent weapon but at the time I was in the market they were running a minimum of $1,500 in my area. I paid $700 for my AK-V and I haven’t regretted it a bit.

[@semiauto3148]

@@jamesalexander2401 ok. Thanks. Glad you like it

[@johnnyseg754]

Foxtrot Mike makes a very nice 9MM PCC... the 5 inch is super compact and is easy to handle and shoot.

[@chrislukasak8530]

Hello fellow Iowan! I went with the CZ. To me its the perfect balance of reliability, customizability, and price. Plus it looks cool lol.

[@phxlt1994]

I own the Extar EP9. Great gun for the money. I've shot this many times (1500 rnd) and its been pretty reliable. My 2 issues was magazine and once my wife went to charge the gun to load a round and she actually pulled out the charging handle (its plastic) . I bought another one and put it in.

[@detroitvseverybody3813]

CZ Scorpion is the best for the money without doubt, awesome sights, ergos are stellar if you get a $5 safety delete, reliable as hell, and for around $800 when the next "best" PCC is the banshee being over $1200 with worse magazines...

[@chaunceychappelle2173]

I was really on the fence about these; then one of you gun dudes here on youtube explained 9m, 300, 556 ballistics and walls in home defense scenarios. I like my neighbors so heavy calibers should not be first choice. The right grain of 9m and high-capacity magazines are ideal for home defense. I am sold. I think I like the PSA ARV-9 simply because of the banana clip look though; support my homestate. Thanks for sharing.

[@sworntoavenge]

For me personally, I want a PCC to be compact and able to conceal in a standard backpack, so AR styles are usually a no go. The MPX is a great gun (now) but I'm not sure if the price difference from, say the Scorpion is worth it.

[@christopherfrost1820]

i love my scorpion, the folding brace is far more comfortable than the flimsy stock on the mpx, the mpx is a great gun though

[@oscartalbot7496]

Get a extar ep9....you will never regret it

[@christopherfrost1820]

@@oscartalbot7496 i honestly really want one, i just bought the new canik mete sfx, im thinking the extar will be my next acquisition

[@Rick_Sanchez_C137_]

If you break it down to upper and lower, neither is longer than 18 inches. Easy to conceal in a backpack. If you set up the backpack correctly each will have it’s on spot and mags easily grabbed (a couple 50 round drums would be optimal).

[@sworntoavenge]

My use case would prohibit me assembling anything in a high-stress situation, also I couldn't conceal that they underneath a jacket or coat

[@googlechicken]

Brigade arms makes a great pcc totally made in USA and of great quality for the money I have the 5.5 inch BM9 version and I love it. I have it set up as a bedside gun with a light and a green dot optic.

[@Tazer120]

Banshees are awesome. Plus you can get it in the best mm... 10mm

[@rsbreeze]

I liked mine so much, I bought a second one before the commie ban hits!

[@tyd22]

Ive got a Gen 2 MPX , 2 years over a 1000rds ,I have yet to have a FTF. Recently just got my wolfman out of NFA jail and suppressed with a wipe , point of impact is not as tight as I want it to be but its incredibly quiet. Picked up a CMMG banshee 300 in 45ACP and its an incredible PCC for its 1400$ price point.

[@jakeszafranski2494]

I have the ep9 love it, went through so many rounds I rounded off the firing pin(5 minutes and 9$ easy fix no complaints) Then I bought the cmmg resolute 9mm carbine (1full size rifle version of the banshee) and it is a great upgrade couldn't be happier Plus with my current favorite reload (4grains hogdon cfe pistol and berrys 124g projectiles) recoils like a 22lr

[@darylmcdonald8467]

I have a Hi-Point 995 PCC with a fore grip and a threaded barrel.

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

Fx-9 is a great little PCC. I've got a lot of rounds through mine and it's never failed.

[@uglydogg4995]

I just got mine and it is a treat!

[@ericbergfield6451]

I got CMMG's MkGs 9mm as my 2nd firearm on July 4th! It's really neat, I'm very satisfied with its build quality, & it's fun learning to shoot 9mm with it.

[@arktactical6112]

Love my Stribog A1 with those new curved mags that solved the mag release problem. You can keep your overhyped/over priced Sigs, MP5s and Vectors

[@Chevelle3285]

I have a Sp9a1, AKV, Scorpion and a Zenith Z5RS. Definitely not overhyped. Overpriced yes. If it came down to only owning one it would be the Zenith.

[@arktactical6112]

@@Chevelle3285 I saw the price and it was pretty much half of what every other real PCC was going for. $650 for a no brace so I did some mods, trigger and ACR brace, put a 2 inch mlok poly rail to match with the barrel, and gave it extended bolt release, oversized charging handle and suppressed it. Not to mention Colt, Glock, Scorpion, I think AKV too and MP5 lowers you can put on. Modularity and price.

[@sideshow3136]

my 10mm Kriss Vector is the best pistol caliber carbine I have fired. It takes glock mags has next to zero recoil and has never malfunctioned once.

[@mohhughes4870]

I have watched a lot of videos on PCCs that mention the CZ Scorpion, and I wholeheartedly agree it's a great platform. What I never hear is that it comes with a set of - in my opinion - excellent iron sights. Sort of AR-style, but very low-profile. Plus: much closer to the muzzle than any glass. Downside: you may have to **really** snug the gun in to get a god sight profile. And if you can it, you may need risers. But in my experience, some of the best irons from the factory - and removable, as they are factory-mounted on the Picatinny. Do agree that the G3, style charging handle is a throwback.

[@mlone7]

Chris, you like to play with your guns. Get an A5 buffer tube, a Kynshot rb5007 hydraulic buffer, and a Tubb 556 flatwound spring. I guarantee you will like the Banshee even more. I also have the 8" barrel on mine and bought a 16" complete upper for it. I love that gun no matter what barrel/upper is on it.

[@eddiemunster2007]

Nice. I'm a bit disappointed that the CX4 Storm wasn't included. However, during the vid you mentioned AR style Carbine. Since the Storm isn't considered an AR style I can understand not including it. I'm feeling it's superior or at least equal to the Banshee. BTW, LOVE the Banshee though. I almost traded my Storm for it. I've roughly 3500rds through her and still no issues. Good cleaning and taking care of her is all I do. No gawdy mods needed.

[@twisstedjack5181]

I bought a CMMG Barrel and matching bolt and put it in a Gibbz side charging upper. ZR Tactical lower with a Velocity Trigger. It's awesome!

[@jadedillon5201]

How about the Kel-Tec Sub2000? I know some don’t think it worth consideration, but they are small folded up, light, available in 9 and 40, and I have never had problems with the two I have owned. Plus the price can’t be beat. They are not built like a tank and won’t last as long as some of the others, but for the cost you can just buy another one when you destroy it.

[@innercityprepper]

I've got a couple as well and I love em. It's funny, I bring my PCCs to the range with friends and it seems like everyone enjoys shooting the S2K's more than the lux AR9's or PC Charger. Maybe it's the trigger? The nice long sight radius?

[@VEX_VICTORIOUS]

I have a Extar and a s2k as well and to be honest I loved the s2k right up until i got the Extra. Now the extar is my main home defense firearm. It hasn't had any problems with any ammo i feed in and for some reason it's way more fun to shoot and the more i shoot it the more I know i can depend on it when the time comes. Which is why the cmmg is probably my next purchase after my G19 comes to my ffl😅. Because the cmmg is probably twice as fun and durable than my Extra. That's just my opinion on it.

[@mikebutler3846]

Really like my Sub2k…carry it in my laptop case!

[@RSI24]

Keltech is shit..save your money for reliability

[@innercityprepper]

@@RSI24 thousands of rounds through my 2 sub2k's and not a single malfunction of any kind. At what point is "reliable enough" reliable enough?

[@frankbutcher5853]

I have the Freedom Ord fx9. Very happy with it. Over 3,000 rounds

[@ericb.4358]

Interesting video and good choices - as far as they go, that is. I prefer the newest RUGER PC, the chassis carbine. NOBODY makes a better PCC barrel than RUGER - cold hammer forged chrome moly. With those parts mentioned below the RUGER PC is utterly reliable and eats any ammo without hiccups. I'd bet it would still be true long after the H&K MP5 had worn out its rollers. ->My PC chassis carbine has most M*CARBO upgrades some TANDEMKROSS and TACCOM parts and several MAGPUL parts. My sight is the new (2021) HOLOSUN AEMS circle/dot sight and it is perfect for PCCs, especially if they will be banged about a lot in use.

[@jeffreymorgan4381]

I now own 4. HK USC 45. PTR9. Kalashnikov K9. CZ scorpion Evo. I enjoy all of them

[@fubuh8r]

POF 5 or an AP5 are less expensive alternatives to an HK. At $1100.00, I’ve had my POF 5 for a week. Runs flawless , accurate and is a smooth shooter. I went to the range rented a select fire MP5, and shot my POF 5 afterwards. Shooting the HK in semi I couldn’t tell the difference at all.

[@Real_Tech_Skills]

I believe that CMMG now has a Banshee lower that uses SIG P320 magazines. I built my own custom CMMG RBG PCC. I used the Radian Weapons AX556 lower receiver for the build. This type of build does require the ARC 9 magazine inserts for my PMAGs (not a problem IMO). The fully ambi controls of the AX556 and the fact that I can install any other AR15 caliber upper receiver is ideal. This gives me the ability to train with the same lower receiver, but have the option of multiple calibers depending upon the expected use at that time.

[@Fishbone8891]

My FX-9 has been my favorite purchase ever, I love shooting that thing and upgrading a bit to a gucci PCC. Really love the size of it since I'm a small guy with little levers (arms) and that size is just perfect for something to go plinking with. Plus as much as an HK SP5K is my dream gun, I can't justify that much money for it yet

[@laptopdragon]

I'm in the same boat with SAA revolvers. I got a heritage .22lr (which also takes a .22mag cylinder) and love shooting my SAA .45lc but ammo is so much money and .45lc is so rare that the heritage .22lr gets all the use. I'd love a banshee but can't justify that price even b/c I'd rather get the FX-9 and a case of ammo.

[@bigjerm210ify]

What barrel length did you go with?

[@Fishbone8891]

@@bigjerm210ify I got the 8" barrel, 4" felt like a handgun with a big brace to me. The 8" with a front angled grip and a red dot is very easy to shoot. I upgraded the brace too which helped.

[@kungfulender8733]

@@Fishbone8891 I just bought one with the 8in barrel and SBA3 brace. It shoots very well.

[@johncox2865]

Will have to satisfy myself with the Ruger PC Charger. Will take a can and can mount a folding brace. And a ton of other stuff. Including the FA binary. Glock mags, 6 1/2” barrel, pic rail, QD, and M-LOK. Fully ambi. The gun cost me $700 new. Absolutely reliable so far.

[@nikezip]

I went with the B&T APC9K Pro and love it!

[@bigmike716]

The Stribog team just introduced the curved magazines and they are INCREDIBLE! Reliability just went way up. So far I've had perfect performance, no double feeds. Shot 600 rounds so far with the curved mags with no failures. Love it! Love the channel brother!!! Thanks for the great content!

[@jimmym1782]

The new stribogs are more expensive than the scorpion now. Would rather get the Scorpio

[@miatajames1472]

How did hollow points feed?

[@ReclaimerMkII]

PCC’s are fantastic home guns, especially for largely untrained civilians. AR platform is super easy to learn and understand, low recoil, and 9mm hollow points are less likely to blast through your house and your neighbors’ houses if you miss.

[@ReclaimerMkII]

@@anthonyarcher7268 I am willing to learn more about this topic. There are a variety of circumstances that led to my choosing of 9mm as my preferred round, and one of those is cost.

[@duketogo2616]

@@anthonyarcher7268 I been seeing quite a bit of comments on KZbin videos about PCCs and mentioning 5.56 vs. 9mm. You really need a longer barrel to take advantage of the terminal ballistics of 5.56 since you're gonna lose a lot off of a shorter barrel. 9mm you are getting full speed with like a 4 inch barrel because the powder is fast burning and if you're using quality hollow point ammo then it is definitely a solid choice for home defense against normal unarmored targets. Also from what I gather it's preferred for the round to hold together and expand when it hits the target and deliver the impact in one solid mass rather than fragmenting and dispersing the energy over smaller pieces.

[@Seasniffer1969]

@@anthonyarcher7268 +3000 feet per second vs 1300 feet per second is incredibly different ballistics. I'd never recommend 5.56 for home defense, that's actually retarded AF if you have to worry about pass through

[@Seasniffer1969]

@@duketogo2616 a 6" ar barrel is still north of 2500fps. The most you'll get out of a 8inch 9mm barrel is 1400fps or 1500fps. Huge difference in terms of pass through. Hollow point or not. I've seen plenty of hollow points zip right through watermelons and through the sheets of plywood behind it from a handgun.

[@mgmmaze]

I put a g money sd-e trigger in my mpx haven't had any problems. Friend of mine does PCC competition same trigger and no problem

[@Forleaftaback]

I feel like you can't go wrong with any of these. Likes my friends scorpion and I love the cmmg. I settled on an MPX k gen 2.5 🤣. Amazingly accurate so much fun and haven't had a single issue. Mags you can find for $50. Only down side is VERY small rail. Accessories are difficult to find homes for but a magwell grip feels great with it. Anyways. VERY happy! Great video!

[@chevy4x466]

What was the give for that fine gun?

[@voiceofreason9238]

FYI to my fellow KZbinrs the Extar EP9 is not a PCC, it's a pistol with a brace, 6.5" barrel. It comes with a single 17 round mag, an OEM Glock mag with the last one I saw sold. Since it is internet direct only it costs 449 plus 20 shipping plus whatever FFL fee your local gun shop charges to have it shipped there. My local FFL charges 35. The features I thought most important were light weight at 4 pounds, takes Glock mags, last round bolt hold open, non-reciprocating charging handle. The light weight in particular is important once you start adding a red dot, gun light, muzzle device like a muzzle redirector or silencer. KZbin videos indicate excellent reliability even with 4 to 5 thousand rounds or more through them. Made in USA.

[@jeffmcclendon3835]

I went with the Ruger PC Carbine not the Charger. I am old fashioned and I wanted a older style pistol caliber rifle. It works fantastic, it’s rugged Ruger quality, it is easy to pack, yes it is front heavy due to the takedown barrel and heavy in general 6.8 lbs but there is no recoil, it takes any kind of optic easily and takes Glock and Ruger double stack mags. Best of all, even with a nice Primary Arms Prism optic, I paid around $700 I thought pcc meant pistol caliber carbine as in 16”+ barrel=Beretta CX4, Ruger PCC and the Hi Point Carbine and all of the 16”+ barrel versions of the ones reviewed

[@markbrandenburg]

I have the PC Charger and it’s the best value in the market. Probably half or less the price of even the Banshee 9mm and 1/3 the price of the mpx

[@jmduncan01]

@@markbrandenburg What magazines are you using? I am having failure to extract on the Glock ETS mags. It is a cool setup that affords breaking down that the others don't have.

[@markbrandenburg]

@@jmduncan01 Glock Gen 4/5 - 33 round and my buddy even ran his 33 round KCI through it without any issues

[@jmduncan01]

@@markbrandenburg I picked some of those up to give it another try. Just haven't gotten around to heading to the range.

[@kungfulender8733]

I agree. The Ruger PC9 is perfectly balanced, but the charger is a bit heavy for its size, especially when you add the picatinny brace.

[@mikaeljonsson2078]

I have a scorpion evo 3 carbine. I wasn't super-happy with it, until I changed out the trigger pack, charging handle and pistol grip, shpped off the barrel to 12.5" and recrowned it. NOW it's a great PCC :)..In hindsight a CMMG could have been a more reasonable choice, as delayed blowback is a very nice feature to have.

[@milabrega100]

Ruger PC Charger. 1500 through- zero hick ups. The recoil is meh, but in a few ways it outshines some of the ones presented here.

[@innercityprepper]

I'm a fan of mine. The one thing I dislike about the PC Charger is the size and weight - how it feels very front-heavy to carry, especially with a larger muzzle device on it. It's by far the least compact of all, even with its tiny barrel. Compared to any of my AR9 builds, even one with an 11" barrel, the PC Charger is big and heavy in comparison.

[@zaitcev0]

I am onboard with these comments: Charger is too heavy. I think Ruger would do well to get rid of the break-down feature for it. It would require cleaning the barrel from the muzzle, but with care it's no problem. Just use a brass rod. I love the full-size version though, it being a break-down makes sense.

[@atf1875]

I wish it wasn't so ugly

[@innercityprepper]

@@atf1875 not gonna lie, it's ugly.

[@Greygoose3130]

Ruger PC for the win. You millennials complaining about the weight because you think you may actually be in an apoplectic video game scenario one day should just hit the gym.

[@twheless80]

I own a Moriarti Arms PCC ........it is very reminiscent of the Banshee. Great parts and it comes with a Hybrid BCG that makes it eat anything that you feed it. And it has Last round lock back on the Bolt . I got into it at around 1200 tax and everything . Very pleased so far .

[@a.freeland179]

Was Ruger PC9 not on the list due to it's takedown feature?

[@br5498]

I’m disappointed that it wasn’t…. I love mine !

[@basildraws]

Woah woah WOAH! Ruger PC carbine. How is that not on the list… like, in #1 spot?!

[@jeffengland2791]

The PTR 9CT has been great so far.

[@roccolentz7969]

I was surprised it wasn't on the list...

[@robingreen1122]

was wondering about that one...trying to decide to get the PTR or the banshee

[@mikewallace119]

You should do a review of the Brigade Manufacturing BM-9 PCC... Would like to know your thoughts... Thanks